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3/10/2016 1 The Nuisance & Necessity of Placing Concrete Directly on a Plastic Vapor Retarder Presented By: Peter Craig Rick Smith Scott Tarr Steve Lloyd Concrete Constructives Structural Services North S. Tarr Concrete Consulting Lloyd Concrete Services For Many Years the Nuisance Aspects of Placing Concrete Directly on a Plastic Vapor Retarder were the Primary Focus of those in the Concrete Industry Slab Curling (warping) Dominant Joints Blistering & Delamination Longer Finishing Times Surface Crusting Shrinkage Cracking Subsidence Cracking over Reinforcing

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The Nuisance & Necessity of Placing ConcreteDirectly on a Plastic Vapor Retarder

Presented By:

Peter Craig Rick Smith Scott Tarr Steve LloydConcrete Constructives Structural Services North S. Tarr Concrete Consulting Lloyd Concrete Services

For Many Years the Nuisance Aspects of Placing Concrete Directly on a Plastic Vapor Retarder were the

Primary Focus of those in the Concrete Industry

Slab Curling (warping)

Dominant Joints

Blistering & Delamination

Longer Finishing Times

Surface Crusting

Shrinkage Cracking

Subsidence Cracking over Reinforcing

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The History and Evolution of Vapor Retarder Location

1981

Typical Slab Concrete Mixture

w/c: 0.40 to 0.60

Slump: 4” to 6”

Nicholson Study

O.697 - 0.753 & 0.801

8” & 9”

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1989

The Blotter / Fill Course Layer

Fill layer

Vapor Retarder

The Blotter / Fill Course Concept

Water Table

Earth

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1993

1996

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By 1998 the Number of Moisture-related Flooring Problems Directly Related to the Fill Course Detail had Increased Significantly

ACI Committee 302 forms a special Moisture Task Group

Earth

Fill layer

C: 100% RH

High RH %

Puncture

Vapor Retarder

Water Table

RH% increases

The Problem with the Blotter / Fill Course Concept

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EarthC:100% RHPuncture

Vapor Retarder

Water Table

Vapor Retarder

Directly Below Slab

By 2001 a shift in thinking began taking place

Concrete International April 2001

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2001

By 2004, ACI 302.1R began to introduce a change in thinking

2004

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By 2006 the directive was clear

Today - ACI 302.1R - 15

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Today

Today much has been learned about the Nuisance & Necessity of placing concrete directly on a plastic vapor retarder

The necessity is real, and doing so is today the industry standard for the design and construction of concrete slabs-

on-ground that will receive a moisture sensitive floor covering or coating.

Up next are three of the concrete industry’s finest who will discus further some of the nuisance and benefit aspects of

placing concrete directly on a plastic vapor retarder and what is being done to successfully mitigate potential concerns

Rick Smith Scott Tarr Steve Lloyd

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Rick Smith

January 1987My First World of Concrete, Houston, TX Astrohall / Astrodome

December 1987Graduated Oklahoma State University with BS in Construction Management Technology

May 1988 ‐ 2000Ribtec

Carbon Steel Sales Manager

Novocon / SI Concrete Systems

Regional Sales Manager, Director of Technical Services

June 2000 – January 2016Structural Services Inc.

29th Consecutive WOC!

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Subbase

Subgrade – 4 to 6” Dense Graded Aggregate (DGA), 3/4” Minus Crusher Run

Concrete

< 15’ OCEW

No Mention of a Vapor Retarder

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Concrete

Isolation Jointaka - Expansion joint

Construction Jointaka - Formed joint

Contraction Jointaka - Control Joint

Strategic ReinforcementSmooth Dowel

Plate Dowel

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Concrete

Smooth DowelPlate Dowel

DeformedReinforcement

FiberReinforcement

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Drying Shrinkage vs Time

Shrinkage & Thermal Expansion / Contraction vs Aggregate Type.

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Slab Warms in Summer and Extrudes Filler out of the Joint

Hone Flush and Fill With Semi‐Rigid Epoxy in Late Winter

Floor Expands, Extrudes Filler Lift Truck Shaves it Flush

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Channel Cuts Narrow & Wide Nosing Repairs

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1, 2, 3 or 4 Deep Pallet Riders 1600‐PSI Contact Pressure

4” Unreinforced Slab on Ground

Plate Dowels at Construction Joints

Joints < 10‐FT OCEW

10‐Mil Vapor Retarder

Poured June 2005

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Non Uniform Joint Activation Faulted Joints

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Cut Out Existing Filler Install and Rake Silica Sand

Fuse with Modified Structural Urethane

Overfill with Semi‐Rigid Polyurea and Shave Flush

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#3 x 36” @ 16 or 18” OC“Hybrid” – Plate Dowels + #3 x 36 @ 24” OC ALTERNATING

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Construction Joint Contraction Joint

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6 & 7‐1/4” Slabs on Ground

Reinforcement#3’s @ 18” OCEW for 6” SOG

#3’s @ 16” OCEW for 7‐1/4” SOG

TX‐DOT 247 Flex Base

Moisture Conditioned

Moisture Injected

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With Vapor Retarder Without Vapor Retarder

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With Vapor Retarder Without Vapor Retarder

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World of Concrete 2016

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To prevent transmitting moisture from the sub grade to the surface of the concrete

Radon gas

Codes

Slip sheet

Finishing operationsCurling

Dominate jointsCracking 

Plastic ShrinkageDelamination

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