TERENA & Grids a new role?

TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme

TERENA & Gridsa new role?

Claudio AllocchioVP Technical ProgrammeTERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005


EGEE (2003 plan)

• The TEC, following last GA discussion and advice, believes it is a strategic move to belong to a project such as EGEE:

– To help coordinating between Grid and NRENs communities (coordination and cross dissemination), with positive effects also on Campus issues

– To create synergy for all other possible FP6 projects where TERENA is being contacted as dissemination partner


EGEE (current)

TERENA, Dissemination (NA2) coordinator, with main tasks as:

• Provide a lively, up to date and technically informative WEB site (entry point to EGEE)

• Provide Mailing Lists• Preparation of printed material • Internal liaison between TERENA TF and project

activities and Grid activities


EGEE YEAR 1 Resources(1 April 2004 – 31 March 2005)

• Committed effort 36 pm• Delivered effort 35.957 pm

• Jo Barnett 100%• Jim Buddin 100%• ITS and Mgmt 1 FTE in total

• Income received : € 201,312• Expenditure: € 444,106


EGEE YEAR 1 Feedback(1 April 2004 – 31 March 2005)

• TERENA did a very good job, which is widely appreciated both inside and outside EGEE

• Raised profile of TERENA within EGEE / GRID community

• Information flow to TERENA members has been sporadic

• Resouce consuming with respect with expected "internal" information dissemination/fostering


How to make a proposal? (1)

TERENA, Technical supervisor of collaboration among grid projects (including EGEE and the upcoming ones) activites, related TFs and NRENs

• TERENA supports and helps the publicity dissemination activity, but somebody else take the leadership of this activity

• Migrate from EGEE "publicity towards external world" into "dissemination/information exchange involving NRENs and other grid projects" (in or out?)

• TF-EMC2, EUGridPMA, GGF and Internet2 collaborations



TERENA should take the initiative to make the proposal change:

• We are very good in bringing people/organizations together to exchange information and setup collaborations

• We have seen, expecially from the GRID-NRENs workshop, where the live problems of grid projects (including EGEE) are, and we can seriously help in solving them

• TERENA members need this information coming from grid community (including EGEE) to flow towards them and back to grid users



TERENA How To?

• establishing a sort of information exchage channel between TFs and related grid projects (old and new) working areas

• promoting coordinated technical activites, like for example the establishment of an AAI which should be usable both by grid activites and by "normal" NRENs users (even if with different attributes...)

• providing technical forum for joint meetings of the above

(not the only ones) groups, etc...



From "inside" or from "outside"?

• The grid/NREN workshop is likely to exist anyhow• "outside" pros:

– Less administrative work/management

– Looks more "neutral"

– …

• "inside" pros:– Quicker access to information

– Easier harvesting inside partners

– …

• Which political message do we want to send?



TERENA How To if "inside" ?

• Send the proposal to EGEE PMB via the Network Federation representative, with a very proactive role

• Insist firmly on a 100% funded activity for this role, "or no activity at all"

• When ? --> NOW !


Further Future

• … short term: workshops• … medium term: "cluster like" project

covering all grid related projects?– How effective could it be?– Just "do it anyhow" ?– Discussion at October GA

• These issues are INDIPENDENT of being in or out EGEE2


Discussion!

• Do we agree on starting being a forum for Grid/NRENs info exchange and consensus building ?

• Do we believe we should stay inside or outside EGEE2 for playing our NEW role ?

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TERENA & Grids a new role?