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CompanyName:StateStreetCorpCompanyTicker:ST TSector:FinancialIndustry:FinancialServices
EventDescription:Q12016EarningsCallMarketCapasofEventDate:24.99BPriceasofEventDate:63.93
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StateStreet(STT)EarningsReport:Q12016ConferenceCallTranscriptThefollowingStateStreetconferencecalltookplaceonApril27,2016,09:30AMET.Thisisatranscriptofthatearningscall:
CompanyPart icipants
AnthonyOstler;StateStreetCorporation;InvestorRelationsJayHooley;StateStreetCorporation;Chairman&CEOMikeBell;StateStreetCorporation;CFO
OtherPart icipants
AshleySerrao;CreditSuisse;AnalystKenUsdin;Jefferies&Company;AnalystGlennSchorr;EvercoreISI;AnalystAlexBlostein;GoldmanSachs;AnalystJimMitchell;BuckinghamResearchGroup;AnalystBrianBedell;DeutscheBank;AnalystBetsyGraseck;MorganStanley;AnalystAdamBeatty;BoAMerrillLynch;AnalystBrennanHawken;UBS;AnalystBrianKleinhanzl;Keefe,Bruyette&Woods;AnalystGeoffreyElliott;AutonomousResearch;AnalystGerardCassidy;RBCCapitalMarkets;AnalystVivekJuneja;JPMorgan;Analyst
MANAGEMENTDISCUSSIONSECTION
Operator :
WelcometotheStateStreetCorporation'sfirst-quarterof2016earningsconferencecallandwebcast.
Today'sdiscussionisbeingbroadcastliveonStateStreet'swebsiteatwww.StateStreet.com/stockholder.Thisconferencecallisalsobeingrecordedforreplay.
StateStreet'sconferencecalliscopyrighted,andallrightsarereserved.Thiscallmaynotberecordedforarebroadcastoradistribution,inwholeorinpart,withouttheexpresswrittenauthorizationfromtheStateStreetCorporation.TheonlyauthorizedbroadcastonthiscallwillbehousedontheStateStreetwebsite.
NowIwouldliketointroduceAnthonyOstler,SeniorVicePresidentofInvestorRelationsatStateStreet.
AnthonyOstler (InvestorRelations):
Thanks,Operator.Goodmorning,andthankyouallforjoiningus.
Onourcalltoday,ourChairmanandCEO,JayHooley,willspeakfirst.ThenMikeBell,ourCFO,willtakeyouthroughourfirst-quarter2016earningsbypresentation,whichisavailablefordownloadintheInvestorRelationssectionofourwebsite,www.StateStreet.com.
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Afterwards,wewillbehappytotakequestions.DuringtheQ&A,pleaselimityourquestionstotwoquestions,andthenre-queue.
Beforewegetstarted,Iwouldliketoremindyouthattoday'spresentationwillincludeoperating-basisandothermeasurespresentedonanon-GAAPbasis.Reconciliationsofthesenon-GAAPmeasurestothemostdirectlycomparableGAAPorregulatorymeasuresareavailableintheappendixtoour1Q2016slidepresentation.
Inaddition,today'spresentationwillcontainforward-lookingstatements.Actualresultsmaydiffermateriallyfromthosestatementsduetoavarietyofimportantfactors,suchasthosefactorsreferencedinourdiscussiontoday,inour1Q2016slidepresentationundertheheading,Forward-lookingStatements,andinourSECfilings,includingtheRiskFactorssectionofour2015Form10-K.
Ourforward-lookingstatementsspeakonlyasoftoday,andwedisclaimanyobligationtoupdatethem,evenifourviewschange.
Aswiththepastcoupleofquarters,wehaveinstitutedanewpatternofreleasingourfinancialresultsonthefourthWednesdayofthemonthfollowingeachquarterend.Assuch,weexpecttoholdoursecond-quarterearningsonWednesday,July27,2016.
NowletmeturnitovertoJay.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Thanks,Anthony.Goodmorning,everyone.
Despitethechallengingenvironment,I'mpleasedwiththeprogresswemadeduringthequarteronthefivestrategicprioritiesIoutlinedforyouatourInvestorDayinFebruary.TheseprioritieswillhelpustotransformStateStreet,competeinthenewenvironment,anddelivervalueintheshortterm.
Asareminder,theseprioritiesare,one;tobecomeadigitalleaderinfinancialservices,todrivegrowthfromourcorefranchise;toinvestinnewproductsthatwillenhancerevenueanddrivedifferentiation;increaseourfocusonexpensemanagement;andleverageourstrongcapitalpositiontocontinuetoreturncapitaltoshareholders.Asyoucanseeonslide4oftheslidedeck,we'veoutlinedforyouhighlightsofourprogresssofarthisyearagainstthosefivepriorities.
First,onbecomingadigitalleaderinfinancialservices,weareinvestinginbecomingadigitalleaderinfinancialservicesthroughStateStreetBeacon.Ourjourneytodigitizecoreprocesseswilldeliveranenhancedclientexperienceandgenerate$550millioninannualpretaxnetrunrateexpensesavingsbytheendof2020.Ourclientsarealreadybeginningtoseetheresultsofourinvestmentsthroughfasterandmoreconsistentdeliveryofservices,impactingourclients'operationsanddrivingimprovedrankingwithindistributionchannels.
Wearealsoactivelyengagedinevaluatingnewtechnologies,suchasBlockchain.WeremainontracktoachieveStateStreetBeacon-relatedannualizedrunratesavingsof$100millionbytheendofthisyear.Thatamountwillbereflectedinour2017results.AsweindicatedcouldbethecaseatourInvestorDay,wedidtakeapretaxrestructuringchargeof$97millioninthefirstquarterrelatedtoBeacon.
Second,weexpectourcorefranchisetocontinuetodelivergrowth,givenourleadingpositionsandattractivemarkets.Althoughourfirst-quarterfeerevenuereflectsachallengingmarketenvironmentexperiencedatthebeginningoftheyear,IamencouragedbythesignsofstabilityinMarchandthestrengthofourpipelineacrosstheFirm.Thefirstquarterincludednewassetservicingwinsofapproximately$264billion,withapproximately$400billionofservicecommitmentsremainingatquarterendtobeinstalledfromcurrentandpriorperiods.
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IwanttohighlightawinthatourglobalservicesgroupinAsia-Pacificrecentlyfinalized.InearlyMarch,wewereselectedtobethemastercustodianforAustralia'sthird-largestsuperannuationfund,FirstStateSuper.
Thisnewrelationshipwillalsoextendintoglobalmarketsandourglobalexchangebusinesses.Ofnote,StateStreetnowservicesfourofthesevenlargestsuperfundsinwhatisahigh-growthsectorforusinAustralia.
I'malsopleasedtosaythatourassetmanagementbusinesshadnetinflowsof$13billion,withexpectedannualizednetnewrevenueof$11millionduringthequarter,providingthestrongestquarterlynetflowinannualizedrevenueresultssincethefourthquarterof2014.Netactivitywasdrivenprimarilyby$7billionofinflowsintoETFsand$11billionofinflowsintocashproducts.
Third,webelievecontinuousinvestmentinnewproductsandsolutionswillenhancerevenueanddrivedifferentiation.OurrecentagreementtoacquireGEAssetManagementsupportsourstrategytoinvestinhigher-growthand-returnbusinesses.
GEAssetManagementsignificantlyenhancesourpositionintheoutsourcedCIOmarket,whichisoneofthefaster-growingsegmentsoftheassetmanagementbusiness.Additionally,GEAssetManagementexpandsSSGA'salternativecapabilities,whileenhancingouractiveequityandfixedincometeams,whichbroadenthesolutionsetswecanprovidetoourcombinedclientbase.
Mostimportantly,GEAssetManagementisahigh-qualityorganizationwithstrongculturalalignmentwithSSGA.Andthistransactionisanendorsementofourongoingandstronglong-termrelationshipwithGE.Weexpectthisacquisitiontobeaccretiveinthefirst12monthsofoperation.
Onanongoingbasis,weevaluateproductsthatarenotmeetingourstrategicorfinancialexpectations.Wemadethedecisionduringthequartertoexitourfuturesclearingbusiness.Andatthebeginningofthesecondquarter,wecompletedthesaleoftheWM/Reuters-brandedforeignexchangebenchmarkbusinesstoThomsonReuters.Theseandotherongoingreturn-on-capitalactionsareaimedatimprovingourefficiency,strategicfocusandROEoverthemediumtolongterm.
InnovationisacriticaldifferentiatorinthecompetitiveETFsegment,andakeyfocusforSSGA.OurSSGA,ourSPDRETFbusiness,introduced13newfundsduringthequarter,includingtheSSGAGenderDiversityETF.SHEisthefirstself-indexedETF,anditsdevelopmentwasinspiredbyCalSTRSeffortstomovetheneedleongenderdiversityincorporateAmericaandseekstotrackperformanceoftheSSGAGenderDiversityIndex,whichcompriseslargeUSlarge-capcompanieswiththehighestlevelswithintheirsectorsofgenderdiversityontheirboardsofdirectorsandintheirseniorleadership.
Fourth,weareincreasingourfocusonexpensemanagement.Ourresultsthisquarterreflectourcommitmenttomanageexpenses,withfirst-quarteroperatingexpensesflatcomparedtothesameperiodayearagoandalsoflat,excludingtheseasonalimpactofequitycompensationforretirement-eligibleemployeesandpayrolltaxes,comparedtothefourthquarterof2015.
Wecontinuetomakeexpensedisciplinecoretoourculture,encouragingemployeestoembraceanowner'smindsetandidentifywayswecanreducecostsacrosstheenterprise,lookingateverythingfromtraveltoconsultantspend.AsInotedearlier,StateStreetBeaconiscontributingtoourexpensemanagementefforts,andweareontracktogenerateatleast$100millioninannualizedpretaxnetrunrateexpensesavingsthisyearfromtheprogram.
Andfifth,we'releveragingourstrongcapitalpositiontocontinuetoreturncapitaltoshareholders.Ourfirst-quarter2016commonstockdividendwas$0.34pershare,andwepurchasedapproximately$325millionofourcommonstock.Weexpecttorepurchaseupto$390millionofourcommonstockin2Q2016.
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AsI'vejustreviewedforyou,wewillcontinuetofocusourattentionandeffortin2016onourstrategicpriorities.Weexpectthiswillallowustogeneratepositivefeerevenuegrowth,andtoachieveourobjectiveofgeneratingpositivefee-basisoperatingleveragethisyearrelativeto2015.
Twoweeksago,theFederalReserveandFDICreleasedtheirreviewofourJuly2015RRPsubmission.BoththeFederalReserveandtheFDICnotedthatwehavemadeimprovementsoverourpriorplans,butdeterminedthatour2015resolutionplanisnotcredible.
Whiledisappointedwiththefindings,wearecommittedtoaddressingtheissueandenhancingourresolutionplanasourbusinessandregulatoryrequirementsevolve.We'vehadongoingcommunicationswiththeregulatorandarefocusedonaddressingallthedeficienciesjointlyidentifiedbytheFederalReserveandtheFDICbyOctober1,2016.
NowI'llturnthecallovertoMike,whowillreviewourfinancialperformanceforthefirstquarter.Andthenwe'llbothbeavailabletotakeyourquestions.
MikeBell(CFO):
Thankyou,Jay.Goodmorning,everyone.
Thismorning,beforeIstartmyreviewofouroperating-basisresults,I'dliketonotethatourGAAPbasisresultsforthefirstquarterincludedpretaxrestructuringcostsof$97millionrelatedtoStateStreetBeacon,includingtheexitofourfuturesclearingbusiness.
Nowturntoslide8intheslidepresentationforasummaryofouroperating-basisresultsfor1Q2016.1Q2016resultsreflectsoftnessinourfeerevenue,primarilydrivenbylowerglobalequitymarkets,partiallyoffsetbystrongexpensecontrol.Operating-basisEPSfor1Q2016decreasedto$0.98asharefrom$1.16in1Q2015,anddecreasedfrom$1.21in4Q2015.
Ourfirst-quarterresultsin2015and2016includedtheseasonaleffectofdeferredincentivecompforretirement-eligibleemployeesandpayrolltaxes.Importantly,totalexpenseswereapproximatelyflatcomparedtotheyear-agoquarter.Andexcludingthenotedseasonalretirement-eligibleexpensesandpayrolltaxes,totalexpenseswereapproximatelyflatcomparedto4Q2015.Regardingcapital,in1Q2016,wedeclaredacommonstockdividendof$0.34ashare,andpurchasedapproximately$325millionofourcommonstock.
Movingnowtoslide9,1Q2016feerevenuedecreased3.6%,whileexpenseswereapproximatelyflatversusayearago.Weaknessinglobalequitymarketsandelevated1Q2015FXrevenueresultingfromtheSwissNationalBankactionsatthetimecontributedtothedecreaseinfeerevenuerelativetotheyear-agoquarter.
I'llnowturntoslide11forareviewofour1Q2016operating-basisrevenues.Servicingfeesdecreasedfromtheyear-agoquarter,primarilyduetothelowerglobalequitymarketsandtheimpactofthestrongerUSdollar,partiallyoffsetbynetnewbusiness.
Thedecreaseintheinternationalequitymarkets,particularlyinemergingmarkets,negativelyimpactedfirst-quarterservicingfees.Comparedtotheyear-agoquarter,averagedailyvaluesfortheMorganStanleyEmergingMarketsIndexdecreased22%,whiletheEAFEEquityIndexwasdownapproximately12%.
Managementfeesdecreasedrelativetoayearago,reflectingglobalequitymarketsandnetoutflows,partiallyoffsetbylowermoneymarketfeewaivers.Foreignexchangerevenuedecreasedfromthestrongmarketactivityin1Q2015,duetolowervolatilityinvolumes.Nevertheless,itincreasedrelativeto4Q2015.
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Securitiesfinancerevenueincreasedfrom1Q2015and4Q2015.Theincreaseoverbothperiodsreflectsincreasedrevenuefrombothenhancedcustodyandagencylending.Comparedto4Q2015,processingandotherrevenuedecreased,reflectinglowerequityearningsfromjointventures,andlowerrevenuesassociatedwithtax-advantagedinvestments.
Movingtoslide12,Iwouldnotethatouroperating-basis1Q2016netinterestrevenuebenefitedfromhigherFedfundsrateanddisciplinedliabilitypricing.Netinterestrevenuedecreasedfromayearago,primarilydrivenbythesuccessfulreductioninthesizeofourbalancesheet.
Nowlet'sturntoslide13toreview1Q2016operating-basisexpenses.Importantly,totaloperating-basisexpenseswerewell-controlledin1Q2016,andwereapproximatelyflatrelativeto1Q2015,anotableaccomplishment.Compensationemployeebenefitswereimpactedbytheseasonaldeferredincentivecompensationforretirement-eligibleemployeesandpayrolltaxes.
Demonstratingsolidexpensecontrol,theotherexpensecategorydecreasedascomparedtoboth1Q2015and4Q2015.Comparedto4Q2015,lowerotherexpensesweredrivenbylowerprofessionalservicesfeesandtravelexpenses,aswellasthesettlementthattheSecuritiesandExchangeCommissionrecordedinthefourthquarterof2015.
Nowturntoslide15toreviewourcapitalposition.Asyoucansee,ourcapitalratiosremainedstrong,whichhasenabledustoaccomplishakeypriorityofreturningcapitaltoshareholdersthroughdividendsandcommonstockpurchases.ComparedtoDecember31,ourCommonEquityTier1ratioincreasedundertheBaselIIIfullyphased-in,advancedapproach,andremainedapproximatelyflatunderthestandardizedapproach.
Importantly,theMarch31fullyphased-insupplementaryleverageratioatthebankincreasedto6.2%,primarilyduetoanincreaseinTier1capital.
Werepurchased$325millionofcommonstockin1Q2016,andexpecttorepurchaseupto$390millionin2Q2016.Thiswillputusapproximately$65billionbelowourgrosssharerepurchaseprogramof$1.83billion.The$65milliondifferencerepresentsthereductioninour1Q2016equitycompensationforouremployees,relativetowhatweexpectedatthetimeourcapitalplanwasapproved.Thenetrepurchasedamountisthereforeconsistentwiththecapitalplan.
Movingontothenextslide,letmebrieflydiscussouragreementtoacquireGEAssetManagement.Whileitremainsatopprioritytoreturncapitaltoshareholdersthroughcommonstockrepurchasesanddividends,wealsoarefocusedonallocatingcapitaltohigher-growthand-returnbusinesses.TheagreementtoacquireGEAssetManagementreflectsthisplan.
Thepurchasepriceis$435million,subjecttoadjustments,withuptoanadditional$50milliontiedtoincrementalopportunitieswithGE.Excludingmergerandintegrationcharges,thetransactionisexpectedtobeaccretivetooperating-basisEPSforthefirst12-monthperiodfollowingthecloseofthetransaction.Andwe'retargetingaclientassetretentionrateofatleast90%.Importantly,theacquisitionwillsignificantlyenhanceStateStreet'spositioninthefast-growingoutsourcedchiefinvestmentofficermarket.
Movingtoslide17,I'llnowprovideanupdatetoour2016financialoutlook.Despitethepressureonglobalequitymarketsinthefirstquarter,weareencouragedthattheenvironmentimprovedinMarch.Importantly,comparedtoJanuaryandFebruary,servicingandmanagementfeesimprovedinMarch.
Ontheexpensefront,wecontinuetoexpectoperating-basisexpensegrowthofupto2%forfull-year2016comparedtofull-year2015,withvariabilityacrossquarters.Wealsocontinuetoexpecttogeneratepositivefeeoperatingleveragerelativeto2015.
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Pleasenotemycommentsrelatedtoour2016outlookexcludeanypotentialimpactfromtheacquisitionofGEAssetManagement.Also,we'reontracktogenerateatleast$100millioninestimatedannualpretaxnetrunrateexpensesavingsfromStateStreetBeaconbytheendof2016.
Nowasareminder,upwardpressureonregulatoryandcompliancecostisexpectedtocontinuethroughout2016.However,weexpectthegrowthratetobelowerthanfull-year2015relativeto2014.Wealsoexpectexpensegrowthtobeaffectedbythevolumeofnewbusiness,aswellascontinuedinvestments.
Inaddition,wecontinuetohavetwoscenariosfor2016netinterestrevenue,largelyconsistentwithpriorcommunications.ThefirstscenarioassumesmarketinterestratesremainstaticatMarch2016levels.Underthisscenario,weexpectfull-year2016NIRtobeinarangeofapproximately$2.025billionto$2.125billion.
ThesecondscenarioassumesadministeredratesintheUSincrease25basispointsinbothJuneandDecember,andcorrespondingmarketratestotrendhigherfromMarch2016levels.Underthisscenario,weexpectfull-year2016NIRtobeinarangeofapproximately$2.1billionto$2.2billion.Wecontinuetobeexpectthe2016operating-basistaxratetobe30%to32%.
Andlastly,Iwouldemphasizethatreturningcapitaltoshareholdersthroughsharerepurchaseanddividendsremainsapriority.Our2016capitalplanremainssubjecttotheresultsofthe2016CCARprocess,includingareviewbytheFederalReserveBoard.
Insummary,althoughtherevenueenvironmentremainschallenging,asreflectedin1Q2016results,weareencouragedthatfeerevenuegainedmomentuminMarch.Andweremainfocusedonprudentlymanagingexpensesandprovidingsolutionstoourclients.NowletmeturnthecallbackovertoJay.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Thanks,Mike.Operator,wearenowavailabletoopenthecallforquestions.
QUESTIONS&ANSWERS
Operator :
(OperatorInstructions)
AshleySerrao.
AshleySerrao (Analyst-CreditSuisse):
Goodmorning.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Goodmorning.
AshleySerrao (Analyst-CreditSuisse):
FirstquestionjustonexpensesandBeacon.Curiouswhattherunratebenefitto1Qresultswas?
MikeBell(CFO):
Ashley,goodmorning,it'sMike.InQ1ascomparedtoQ4--soonasequentialbasis--wehadnetsavingsofapproximately$7million.WehadnotedattheInvestorDaythatwedidexpectafairamountofspendingforBeacon,andwehadthat.ButasIsaid,thenetsavingsinQ1wasapproximately$7million
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sequentially.
AshleySerrao (Analyst-CreditSuisse):
Okay,sostillfairlyearlyinningsthere.Okay.Andjust,too,ifIlookatthenetinterestrevenuethisquarterandthesequentialjumpinNIM,whatdrovetheincreasingyieldsontheotherassetbucket?
MikeBell(CFO):
Let'ssee.Iwouldpointtoacouplethings.AndIwouldn'tcharacterizeit,Ashley,asjusttheimpactontheotherassetbucket.Buttherewereacoupleofthingsthatbroadlyhelpedus.
Firstofall,aswe'vediscussedbefore,wehaveasignificantamountofourbalancesheetthatisinfloatingrateassets.Sothat'sacombinationofthecentralbankdepositsthatwehavehereintheUS,thatincludesthefloatingratesecuritiesinthesecuritiesportfolio--abouthalfofthefloatingratesecuritiesareinUSdollars.Sothat'sapproximately$18billion.Andthenwealso--ourloanstendtobealsoafloatingrateasset.Sobasically,thefloatingrateassetsinourbalancesheetincreased,asyouwouldexpect,basedupontheincreaseinshort-termmarketinterestrates.
Inaddition,wealsowereabletocaptureawiderspreadonclientrepo,andwealsosawincreasednettingforrepo's.Sothosetwothings,combined,increasedwhatyouseeontheAverageRatesEarnedandPaidpage.Thatincreasedsignificantlytheaverageratefortheassetsthatareinthereposecuritiescategory.Andthenintheotherinterest-earningassetlinethatyouspecificallyaskabout,that'sourenhancedcustodyasset.Andbasically,thatjustreflectsthemarketrateincreaseasaresultofshort-termratesbeinghigher.
Operator :
KenUsdin.
KenUsdin (Analyst-Jefferies&Company):
Thanks.Justonemorefollow-upontheNIIfrontthen,Mike.Sodoyounormalizeforsomeofthosehelpers?BecauseifItakewhatyou'resayingaboutthatandjustthinkaboutthefactthatyou'veleftthewithout-ratebandunchanged,itwouldseemthat,eventogetthemtothathighendofthatX-ratespending,you'retalkingaboutmoreofa510-typeofnetinterestincomerunrate.Socanyoujusthelpuswalkthroughhowmuchofthatfirstquartergoesaway?Andthentheothertypicalpushesandpulls,intermsofanylingeringyieldcompressionversusbalancesheetstrengththatweshouldbethinkingabout?
MikeBell(CFO):
Sure,absolutely,Ken.Goodmorning.Thecouplethingsthatweexpectinthestatic-ratescenario,Ken,thecouplethingsthatweexpecttoputdownwardonourNIRunderthestaticscenariowouldbe,numberone,thegrindinthefixedrateportionoftheportfolio.SoImentionedthatapproximately$36billionofourportfolioisfloatingrate.AbouthalfofthatisintheUS,thatbenefitedfromtheshort-termratehike.AbouthalfofthatisoutsideoftheUS,whichobviouslydidnotbenefitfromtheshort-termratehike.
Butinthefixed-ratecategory,whichisapproximately$66billionoftheportfolio,we'reseeingthisgrind,wheretherateontheinvestmentsthatarematuringisapproximately100to150basispointshigherthanthenewfixed-rateinvestmentsthatwe'remakingwiththeproceedsfromthosematurities.Sothatgrindoverthecourseoftheyearisanegative.
Aswe'vetalkedaboutbefore,inEurope,thesituationisstillrelativelynegative,inthatnotonlyarethe
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short-terminterestratesnegativewiththeECB,butinadditiontothat,becauseofthequantitativeeasingprogramoverthere,spreadsarereallyteenyaswell.SothegrindintheportfolioinEurope,aswell,isputtingdownwardpressure.
Sointhestatic-ratescenario,wewouldexpectthosetobethebigdriversofthelowerNIRinthenextseveralquarters.Ifinsteadthough,wegetacouplemoreFedfundhikes,wewouldn'texpectthemtobequiteasaccretiveaswhatwesawinfirstquarter.Butobviously,wewouldexpectittobenet-nethelpful,aswegetahigherrateonthefloatingrateassetsthatamentionedinresponsetoAshley'squestion.
KenUsdin (Analyst-Jefferies&Company):
Great,thanks,Mike.Andjustasecondquestiononexpenses.Greatstartontheflatyear-over-year,butyou'realsokeepingtoaup-to,ora2%fullyear.Andtoyourpointaboutthecompliancebuildsandalsothevolatilityquartertoquarter,arewealsoimplyingthatexpenses--youhavedohaveadistinctupwardtrailfromhere?Becauseitwouldseemlikeyouareonabettertrajectory.Whycouldn'tyoudobetterthanthat2%guidanceyouhadgivenusatInvestorDay?
MikeBell(CFO):
Yes,first,Ken,Iappreciatethecomplimentonthefirst-quarterresults.Wearereallypleasewiththat.AndaswetalkedaboutattheInvestorDay,wecontinuetolookatreallyeverysingleareaofexpenses.AndIthinkwedidaparticularlygoodjobinQ1atreducingtheoutsideconsultingexpenses--someofitregulatory,someofitnotregulatory.WereducedtravelexpensessignificantlyinQ1.ButIdoexpectthattherewillbeamarchupinregulatoryexpensesinQ2,Q3,Q4,asaresultofdealingwiththehigherexpectations.
Now,havingsaidthat,we'llcontinuetolookateveryareaofexpense.AsJaytalkedabout,ProjectBeaconcontinuestobeontrackfortheexpected$100billionofsavingsforthefullyear.Butagain,betweentheregulatorycostsandthenetnewbusinessthatweexpecttobecomingonboard,thatwe'llneedexpensetoservice,wethoughtitmadesensetostickwiththeupto--or,tosayupto2%onexpensegrowth.Andobviously,alotofwherewe'llendupwillalsorelatetowherethefeerevenueendsupaswell.
Operator :
GlennSchorr.
GlennSchorr (Analyst-EvercoreISI):
Hi,thanksverymuch.Twobusinessquestions.Firstoneisonenhancedcustodyandagencylending.Youmentionedthewiderspreads,orIshouldsay,thegrowthinthehighershort-termrates.Butcuriousonoverallbalancesandprogressofthebusiness.Itseemstobegrowingfast.You'vetalkedaboutitinthepast,butwhatarethegoalsintermsofhowmuchyouwanttogrowit?Andwhatrisk--or,letmerephrasethat.Whatcapitalchargesgoalongwithgrowingthatbusiness?
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Glenn,letmestartthatone.Youknow,you'veseen,notjustthisquarter,butprogressivequarters,goodperformance,out-performanceinsecuritieslending.Andyou'reright--thisquarteritwasacombinationofagencyandenhancedcustody.ButIwouldsayoveralongercycle,it'sreallybeenenhancedcustodythathasdriventhedisproportionategrowth.Andweexpectthatwillcontinue.
Therecontinuestobehighdemandinour,notonlyhedge,butinourtraditionalclientbase,touseenhancedcustody,asopposedtosomeofthetraditionalmeansofcredit.Andwedon'tseemuch
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limitation.I'dsaymostofthebusinessgrowththatwe'reseeingquartertoquarterisexistingclientsdoingmorecreditextensionwithus.Sowe'vebuiltouttheproduct.IthinkImentionedlastquarter,we'rebuildingitoutinEuropeandAsia,aswewoulddonormallyforallofourproducts.
Theabilitytonetthesecuritieslendingbackagainstthebroaderportfoliomakesitanattractivepropositionfromacapitalstandpoint.Sonet-net,weseecontinueddemand.Wedon'tseemuchinthewayofcapacityconstraints.Andwethinkwe'vefiguredouthowtomakethisattractivefromareturn-on-capitalstandpoint.
GlennSchorr (Analyst-EvercoreISI):
ROEbetterthantheoverallCompany'sROE?I'mjustcuriousifit'sdrivingyourever-increasingcapitalratios,orthat'sjustallregulatoryand--?
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Glenn,it'salittlebitless,butIwouldsaysteadilyimprovingoverthelastcoupleofyears.
GlennSchorr (Analyst-EvercoreISI):
Okay.Iappreciateit.Thanks,Jay.
Operator :
AlexBlostein.
AlexBlostein (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Hey,goodmorning,guys.Questiononthelivingwillissuefromacoupleweeksago.Youknow,whatdoyouguys--asfarasthenextstepsgo,whatdoyouexpecttodotoaddresstheissue,especiallywhenitcomestothecapitalconcernthatcameoutoftheirstatement?AnddoanticipatethistohaveanyimpactonCCARforyouguys,whether--probablynotsomuchinthequantitativepiece,butmoreonthequalitative?
MikeBell(CFO):
Sure.Goodmorning,Alex,it'sMike.Firstofall,Idon'tviewthecapitalpiece,thecapitalitemthatwasnotedasadeficiency,asbeingasignificantproblemforustodealwith.AndIdonotexpectatthispointintimethat,thatwouldhaveanimpactonCCAR.NowobviouslytheFedwillmakethejudgmentsthatthey'llmake.ButIhavenoindicationatthispointthat,thatwouldhaveanegativeimpact.
Soreally,whatwe'refocusedonnowisbetter-understandingtheregulatoryexpectations,bothfortheOctober1deliverable,aswellasthesubmissionnextJuly1.Andsothat,morebroadly,iswhatwe'refocusedon.AndasJayindicatedinhispreparedremarks,wearecertainlycommittedtodoingeverythinginourpowertomeetingtheirexpectations.
AlexBlostein (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Gotyou.Andthen,Jay,follow-upforyouontheGEacquisition.Youguystalkedaboutprettyrobustgrowth,Iguess,inthatbusiness.Butmyunderstandingisthatsomethinglike90%orsoAUMisjustGEpensionassetsthatareobviouslystickythere,butI'mnotsurehowgrowthythoseare.Sogiveusasenseofwhattheorganicgrowthhasbeeninthatbusinesspriortoyouracquisition?Andthenmaybewhatyouguysanticipatetoseefrom,again,theorganicgrowthpartofthebusiness?
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
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Sure,happytotakethatoneup,Alex.Asyoupointout,agooddealoftheassetsareGEassets--boththeirpension,whichishowthewholethinggotstarted,outsourcingtheCIOfunctionofGE'spensionassets.Butthey'vealsobeensuccessfulinattractingsomeotherbignamesintheoutsourcedCIOmarketplace.
SoIthinkthatifyoujustlookatthatsegmentofthemarket,particularlyagainstanenvironmentwhereratesarelikelytobelowforaprotractedperiodoftime,wethinkthat'sagrowthmarket.AndwethinkbykindofunshacklingGEfromGE,andmakingitpartofStateStreet,thatwe'llbeamoreattractiveproviderofservicesintheoutsourcedCIOmarket.Sothey'vehadsomegrowthontheirown.We'vealsohadsomegrowth.Bycombiningit,wethinkwecangrowatafasterrate.
Sothat'scoretothegrowthopportunity.Butalsocoretothegrowthopportunityis,you'veheardustalkbeforeabout--anaturalplacewhereweplayveryeffectivelyintheassetmanagementworldisinsolutions.Andwhetherit'satargetdatefundoroutsourcedCIO,ormanyotherversionsofsolutions.Andwehadalittlebitofadeficitinseveralassetclasses,particularlyalternatives.
Andsoagain,bytakingournaturalsolutionscapabilitiesandenhancingitwithsomeofGE'sverycredibleasset-managementcomponentsinthealternatives,realestate,privateequityandhedge--allthree--wethinkwecanaccelerateoursolutionsgrowth.Soit'sreallytaking,I'dsay,averyhigh-qualityandstableassetmanagementorganization,embeddingitatStateStreet,andtruesynergiesontherevenuesideintheOCIOandsolutionssegmentsofthemarket.
AlexBlostein (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Okay,thanks.
Operator :
JimMitchell.
JimMitchell(Analyst-BuckinghamResearchGroup):
Hey,goodmorning.Maybeyoucouldtalkalittlebitabouteurodeposits.Itsoundslikeyouraisedthefeechargedonthose.Haveyouseenanyrunoffthat'smaterial?Orisitalittletooearlytotell,we'llseethatinsecondquarter?Howdowethinkbutyourclientreactiontoraisingrates?
MikeBell(CFO):
Sure,Jim.Goodmorning,it'sMike.Wedid--asyousuggested,wedidincreasetheratethatwearechargingforeurodeposits.Wedidseeapproximately$2billionofrunoffonaverage,Q1versusQ4.Thediscussionswithclientsareongoing.Iwouldsay,atthispointitfeelslikearelativelywell-managedsituation.Butit'ssomethingthatwe'reobviouslypayingcloseattentionto,giventhechallengingconditionsinEurope.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Hey,Jim,letmejustchipinsomething.Iwouldsayonthiscallchargingfornegativerates,weweremarketleadersinthat.AndasIlookacrossthelandscape,we'renotaloneanymore.Sowhetherit'stheUSbanks,theEuropeanbanks,theenvironmenthasshiftedtobesupportiveofthisactivity.SoIthinkthathelpsfromastandpointofbeingabletoraiseratesandretainthedepositsthatwewant.
JimMitchell(Analyst-BuckinghamResearchGroup):
Right.Andsoitseemslikedepositshaveheldinalittlebitbetterthanmaybeyou'veexpected?IsthatpartoftheupsideweseeinNIIthisquarterrelativetoyourfull-yearforecast?
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MikeBell(CFO):
Jim,Iwouldcharacterizeitas,they'reprettymuchtrackingwithwhatweexpected.
JimMitchell(Analyst-BuckinghamResearchGroup):
Okay.AndifIcouldjustaskoneontheTier1capitalatthebank,itseemslikeyoudownstreamedsomecapitalthere.Isthattrue?Howhasthataccomplishedtheboost,theTier1ontheSLRbank?
MikeBell(CFO):
Well,sure.Intermsofjustadministrativelyhowwedidit,webasicallyjustretainedsomeearningsatthebank,asopposedtodividendingthatfromthebanktotheholdco.Butaswe'vetalkedaboutinthepast,Jim,wedorecognizethatwe'vegotsomeflexibilityintermsofwhatassetsweholdattheholdcoversuswhatwehaveatthebank.Sothiswasreallynormalmanagement,inlinewithourplantobesurethatwewereabove6%intimefor11-18.Obviouslythefactthatthebalancesheetgotsmalleraswell,wasalsohelpfulinthatregard.
JimMitchell(Analyst-BuckinghamResearchGroup):
Right.Okay,great,thanks.
Operator :
BrianBedell.
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Hi,goodmorning,folks.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Goodmorning.
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Mike,justtocirclebackonthesecuritiesrepolineyieldgoingfrom236to586,that'sabouta--lookslikearounda$30millionsequentialincrease.Canyoujustexplainthatdynamicagain,andwhatyouwouldexpectthenormalizedratetobeinthesecondquarteronthat?
MikeBell(CFO):
Sure,Brian.Firstofall,Iwouldn'tfocusedasmuchonthe586asIwouldonjusttheoverallcontributionfromthatlineitem.Butagain,firsttalkaboutthechangeinthenumerator.Aswetalkedaboutinoneoftheearlierquestions,wedidearnahigherspread,awiderspreadonclientrepointhefirstquarter.Basically,asshort-termmarketinterestratesincreased,wewereabletocapturethatinourmargin.
Thethingthatmakestheaverageratejumpasmuchasitdidthough,isthatwealsoexpandednettinginthequarter.Soasaresult,weactuallyhadexpandedactivityforourclientsinthequarter,butwewereabletonetmoreofit.Sotheaveragebalanceyouseetheredroppedbyabout$0.5billion,orabout16%sequentially.Butthatwasreallyfromthenetting.Sotheoverallactivityexpanded.Thespreadsexpended.Butasaresult,theaveragebalancethendropped.
IwouldsaythatIthinkitwasacombinationofgoodmanagementandgoodmarketconditions.AndIwouldexpectthatmarketconditionswillremainrelativelygoodinthenear-term.Butit'ssomethingcertainlywecan'tguarantee,andit'ssomethingthatwemanageandmonitoreveryday.
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BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Soinotherwords,that$30millionyouwouldviewassomewhat--or,that$30millionincreaseyouwouldviewassomewhatsustainable?Orwouldyouseethatrevertbacksomewhat?
MikeBell(CFO):
Ithinkthat,again,timewilltell,Brian.Idon'thaveaperfectcrystalball.ButIwouldexpectthatperhapsthemajorityofthesequentialincreaseinthosespreadsshouldbesustainedoverthenextcoupleofquarters.Butagain,itwillbedependentuponmarketconditions.
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Okay,great.Andthenmaybe,Jay,doyouwanttocommentalittlebitaboutthetypicaldividendarbitrageseasoninEurope?Iknowthere'sbeensomediscussionofcurtailingthat.AreyouseeingthesametypeofactivitythatyoutypicallyseeinsecuritieslendingandFXtradingcomingintothesecondquarter?Ordoyouexpectthattobealittlebitrestrained?
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Youknow,Brian,asyoupointout,secondquarterisaseasonalpeakforuswithregardtothedividendactivity.There'sbeenalotofattentiononthatoverthelastcoupleofyears.Soweprobablyseesomeslightdiminishmentfromwhatwe'veseeninpast.Don'tthinkit'smaterial,butprobablynotquiteatthepeakit'sbeeninpastyears,becauseofalltheattentionthattradehasreceived.
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Great,thankyou.I'llgetbackinthequeueforsomefollow-ups.Thanks.
Operator :
BetsyGraseck.
BetsyGraseck(Analyst-MorganStanley):
Ijustwanttodiginontwothings.OnewasontheBeaconproject.Youindicatedtherestructuringchargeof$97millionthisquarter--obviouslyanetsavingsthisquarterof$7million.Iknowyou'reinvesting$500million--you'reinvesting$400milliontogeta$500millionbenefitoverfiveyears.Butcouldyougiveusasenseastohowweshouldthinkabouttheinvestmentinthespaceaswegothroughtheatrestofthisyear?BecauseIthoughtitwasfront-end-loaded.SoIjustwanttomakesureIhavethenumbersrightthere.
MikeBell(CFO):
Sure,Betsy.It'sMike.Idoexpectthatboththebenefitsaswellastheinvestmentsthatwe'remakinginProjectBeaconwillbothsteadilyincreaseoverthecourseof2016.Idoexpectthatthenetbenefitwillincreaseeachofthosethreequarters.Ontheotherhand,asImentionedearlier,Ialsodoexpecttoseesomeupwardpressureonregulatorycosts.Soagain,that'sseveralmovingparts,butIwouldthinkinBeacon,inparticular,asbothinvestmentscontinuingtoincreaseandsavingscontinuingtoincrease.
BetsyGraseck(Analyst-MorganStanley):
Andallofthe$97millionininvestmentwaslargelyinseverance,andI'massumingthat'sthebelow-the-linenumber.You'renotanticipatinganyinvestmentsintheBeaconprojecttobeinoperatingexpenses,areyou?
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MikeBell(CFO):
Yes,weare,Betsy.Infact,wedidseeinvestmentsinthatareainoperatingexpenses.Thatwasbothincompensation,butit'salsointheinformationsystemsline.Andagain,Iwouldexpecttoseeadditionalspendingintheinformationsystemslineoverthecourseof2016.
BetsyGraseck(Analyst-MorganStanley):
Andthenonyourslide,youindicated,youknowobviouslythestrategicprioritytobeadigitalleaderinfinancialservices.Couldyoujustbreakapartalittlebittheone-lineryouhavethere--activelytestingnewtechnologiessuchasBlockchain?Couldyougiveusasenseastowhatyou'redoingthere?
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Happytodothat,Betsy.ThisisJay.Blockchainhasreceived,appropriately,alotofattention.AndIthinktome,it'ssynonymouswithdigitization,generally.IthinkifIwouldhaveputsomeperspectiveon--putintoperspectiveBeaconandBlockchain,IwouldsaythatBeaconisoureffortinternallytodigitizewithinthefourwallsofStateStreet.Ithinkthat,importantly,thewholedevelopedmarkets'financialservicesinfrastructureneedstobedigitized,andthat'sgoingtorequirestandardizationbetweenfirmsandbetweenactivities.Sothat'sreallywhereIseeBlockchainbeingmostrelevant.
Wehave,internally--withinourBeaconeffort,we'vegot,Ithinkit'sfour,maybefive,pilotsgoingontouseBlockchainasameanstodigitizewithinStateStreet,linkedtootherfirms.Soletmegiveyouthebestexample,maybethemosteasilyexplainedexample.BankloanprocessinghasbeenanactivitythatStateStreethasdevelopedasignificantshareofthemarketin.Processingabankloanrequiresmanyintermediariestocometogether,andacommonledgertoexchangeinformation.
Sowehaveapilotgoingoninourbankloanprocessinggroup,wherewe'reusingBlockchain.Andwe'vegotagreementfromallofthecounterpartiestoparticipateinaBlockchainpilotaroundbankloanprocessing.Sowhatthatwoulddois,takeanactivitywherethere'sprocessimprovementsandtechnologythatweneedtodointernallywithinStateStreet,butitwouldextendittoothercounterparties.Sowe'vegotseveralofthosegoingon,whichwethinkcouldbehelpfultous.
IthinkthatprobablythebiggercommentIwouldmakeisthatwe'lldigitizeourownenvironment,butitwillrequirestandardsacrosstheindustry.Andagain,Blockchainmaybeoneofthose.We'reparticipatinginagroupcalledR3--Ithinkthere'supto16bankinginstitutionsthataretryingtofigureoutwhatthebestapplicationsaretouseBlockchaininordertocreatestandardsinter-company,inter-industry.AndsoIthinkwe'regoingtoabsolutelydowhatweneedtodotodigitizeourenvironment.
Ithinkthehomerunhereisifwecangetsomestandardsdevelopedaroundhowwewillinter-operatefromadigitalstandpoint.AndIthinkBlockchaincouldbe.Ifit'snotBlockchain,itwillbesomethingelse,oneofthosestandardsthatemergethatallowtheinteroperabilityatadigitallevelinthewholeindustry.Idon'tknowifthatconfusesorhelps,butthat'showIviewit.Wecancontrolit--that'swhatwe'redoingwithBeacon.Butinorderforthisreallytowork,theindustryneedstodigitize.Blockchainisjust(multiplespeakers)
BetsyGraseck(Analyst-MorganStanley):
Youknow,that'shelpful.It'sjustaquestionof--isitproductbyproduct?Andwhatkindoftimeframedoyouseetopotentiallytakesomethinglikethepilotthatyou'reworkingon,toeitherhaveagoorno-godecision,withsomebenefitstoyou?
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Myguessis,it'sproductbyproductatthispoint.Andsobankloansisoneofthoseproducts,oneofthoseservices.I'dbesurprisedif,withintheyear,wedon'tknowwhetheritwouldbetherightanswertothatissue.AndIthink,aswithmanythings,ifyougetabunchoffinancialinstitutionstoconvergearoundaproblemanduseanewtool,ifsuccessful,itwillgrowfromthere.AndIthinkit'sgotadecentchanceofsucceeding.Butitwillbeoneofmanysolutionsversusthesilverbullet.
BetsyGraseck(Analyst-MorganStanley):
Yes,gotit.Thankyou.
Operator :
AdamBeatty.
AdamBeatty(Analyst-BoAMerrillLynch):
Goodmorning.IhaveaquestionaboutproductstrategyandETFs.Iappreciatethedetailsearlier.ItseemslikeStateStreetandothershavecomeoutwithsomefairlynicheofferingsrecently.Andthequestionis,withalotofthebigindexesandexposuresalreadybeingcovered,includingbysomeStateStreetproducts,isthatthefutureofETFinnovation,kindoflikewithtelevision,wherethere's300channelssoeverybodycanseeexactlywhattheywant?Orifthat'snotthewholestory,howdoesthatfitintoyouroverallproductstrategy?Thanks.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Yes,Iappreciatethequestion,Adam.IwouldjustremindyouthatourETFstrategyisreallytwotracks.Oneistocontinuetobuildoutthedistribution,whichwe'redoingintheUSandalsoEurope.Andthen,toyourpoint,it'senhancingtheproduct.AndI'dsay,alotofthebasicbetastrategieshavebeenconsumedinanETFproduct.Butthenyougettothenextlevelofcustomizedindexes.
SotheSHEindexthatIdescribedinmypreparedcommentsisdevelopingastrategy,anddeveloped--inthiscase,thisisthefirsttimewehaveself-indexed.Sowebuilttheindex,back-testedit,andthenpackageditinanETF.You'llseemoreandmoreofthathappening.Infact,we'renottheonlyonesdoingthat.IthinkinthebroadbetaandETFspace,that'satheme.
TheotherthingIwouldsayisthat,IwouldpointtomaybethepartnershipwehavewithDoubleLine,wherethey'retakingactivefixed-incomestrategies,theyarethemanager,we'repackagingitintheETFanddistributingit.AndIthinkyou'regoingtoseemoreandmoreencroachmentintotraditionalproductsspaces.AndIcomealittleshort,becauseI'mnotquitesoldyetthatyou'lltakeactiveequityproducts,forinstance,andwrapitinanETF.Butotherswouldtaketheothersideofthatargument.SoIdon'treallyseemuchlimitationforinvestmentstrategiesbeingabletobewrappedandpackagedinanETFstructure,anddistributedtobothinstitutionsandtheretailmarketspace.
Sowehave--IwouldsaythatSSGAhasdeployedkindofanopenplatformstrategy,whereifwecancreatetheindex,inthecaseofSHE,manufactureanddistribute--andwewill.Butifthere'saninterestinginvestmentideaoutsideofSSGA,we'rewillingtodiscusspackaginganddistributing,whichwe'vedonenotjustwithDoubleLine,butwithUVandMFSandseveralotherfirms.Hopethathelps.
AdamBeatty(Analyst-BoAMerrillLynch):
Yes,itdoes.Thankyouverymuch,Jay.Anotherquestion,ontheOCIObusiness,inthecontextofassetservicing.Howmuchrevenuesynergywouldyouexpectintermsofassetservicing?Andifso,inwhatareas?IsitpossiblethattheGEacquisitionbenefitsfrombeinghoused,fromthatstandpoint,inanorganizationlikeStateStreet?
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JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Yes,Ithinkit'sanastutequestion,inthatoneofthereasonswehavea25-year-oldrelationshipwithGE,iswe'vebeenthebackendofthefront-endOCIObusinessthatGEhasrunovertheseyears.SoIthinkthat,asImentionedbefore,theoutsourcingofthechiefinvestmentofficerfunctionforthesedefinedbenefitplansislikelytobeagrowingopportunity,growthopportunity.
You'realreadyseeingittoday.Thefactthatwecangoandnotonlyofferthefront-officeexpertiseofhowtoruntheseplans,howtospeakthelanguageofDBtotrusteesandothercustomer-facing,pensionorganizations.Butalsobeabletofullyintegratethebackoffice,completewithasset-servicing,middleoffice,securitieslending--everythingthatgoeswithitisallrelevanthere.SoIsee,themoreOCIObusinessweget,itshouldnaturallybringallthemiddle-andback-officebusinesswithit.
AdamBeatty(Analyst-BoAMerrillLynch):
Excellent.Thanksagain.
Operator :
BrennanHawken.
BrennanHawken (Analyst-UBS):
Hey,goodmorning.Justonequickfollow-upatthispoint.Thedeclineinotherexpenses--Ithinktheimplicationwasthatyouhadsomebenefithere.Ithinkyoulaidouttheconsultantexpensescomingdown,buthereasonwhytheguidedidn'tgoupisbecauseyougotsomeupwardpressurependingfrompotentiallivingwillspendandsuch.AmIparaphrasingthatcorrectly?AmIreadingthroughyourcommentsright,orcanyouclarifyit,please?
MikeBell(CFO):
Brennan,it'sMike.Ithinkthosearefaircomments,butIwouldn'tlimitupwardregulatorycostpressuretojustthelivingwills.Ithinkit'sbroaderthanthat.Butotherthanthat,yourcommentisveryfair.
BrennanHawken (Analyst-UBS):
Okay.Andthenisthereawaytounpacktheotherexpenseresultthatwasbetterthanexpected?Andhowmuchindependentlyyouthinkmightsustainablebeyondthenthependingupwardpressurefromhere?Isthereawaytothinkaboutthatseparately?
MikeBell(CFO):
Well,Iwouldjustremindyouthatwe'restillguidingtoupto2%overallexpensegrowthyearoveryear,excludingtheacquisitionofGEAssetManagement.Sothefactthat,that'sthecasesaystomethatwearegoingtomanageexpenses,really,inaggregate.Andobviouslyourpreferredroutewouldbetocontinuetobuildin-housecapabilities,hirefull-timepeopletomanageandruntheseregulatoryandcomplianceactivities,andrelylessandlessonoutsideconsultants.
Andsoifwecontinuetobesuccessfulinthatarea,thenIthinkthatlineitemwilllikelyrunbelowlastyear's.Butagain,itreallyisaquestionofmanagingthoseprioritiesinaggregate,asopposedtojustfocusingononelineitem.
BrennanHawken (Analyst-UBS):
Okay,thankssomuch.
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Operator :
VivekJuneja.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Vivek?
Operator :
Hey,itlookslikeVivekwithdrewhisquestion.BrianKleinhanzl,KBW.
BrianKleinhanzl(Analyst-Keefe,Bruyette&Woods):
Thanks,goodmorning.QuickquestionontheGEAssetManagementdeal.Iknowyougaveguidanceastowhattheexpectedaccretiontobeforoneyear,andalsoyouwanttoretain90%withregardstoAUM.Soarewetoassumethattheoneyearisjustbecausethat'swhenthelockupperiodisforthoseassets?Oristherealongerlockupontheassetsbeingacquired?
MikeBell(CFO):
Brian,Iwouldn'trelatethetwo.Basically,wewerefocusedonthefirst12months,becausewewantedtogiveyouatimeperiodatwhichweexpectthistobeaccretivetoEPS.AndsothatreallyisirrespectiveofanykindofalockupperiodwiththeGEplan.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
AndI'dadd,Brian,thatourexpectationisthatthe90%-plusbusinessthatweretainwillhavealonglifetoit.
BrianKleinhanzl(Analyst-Keefe,Bruyette&Woods):
SoIguess,askeddifferently,whendoesthelockupperiodend?
MikeBell(CFO):
Thereisnotacontractuallockupperiod.Basically,we'reconfidentthatwecancontinuetomeettheGEpensionplansneeds,andthat'swhatwewillbefocusedon.
BrianKleinhanzl(Analyst-Keefe,Bruyette&Woods):
Okay,thanks.Andthenjustasecondquestion.What'stheimpactontherevenuesfromtheexitofthefuturesclearingbusinesses?AndIguess,what'stheimpactonthepretaxmarginaswell?
MikeBell(CFO):
Sure.SoBrian,theFCMbusinessearned$9millioninfeesinfull-year2015.Andtheexpensesweregreaterthanthat,butwerepartoftheoverallsavingsthatItalkedaboutearlierintermsofBeacon.SoIwouldn'tbemorespecificatthispoint.
BrianKleinhanzl(Analyst-Keefe,Bruyette&Woods):
Okay,great.Thanksfortakingmyquestions.
Operator :
GeoffreyElliott.
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Geof f reyElliott (Analyst-AutonomousResearch):
Morning,thankyoufortakingthequestion.Ontheresolutionplan,couldyoutalkaboutwhatyouneedtodothere?Andhowmuchofthatissimplyaroundchangingtheplanversushowmuchisaroundmakingchangesinthewaybusinessisstructured,theamountofliquiditythatyouhold,howcapitalisallocatedbetweendifferententities,andsoon?
MikeBell(CFO):
SoJeff,it'sMike.Iwouldsayitisearlydaystoberealspecificontheactionsthatwewilltaketoultimatelymeettheregulatoryexpectations.YousawthesameinformationthatwedidintermsofthepaperthatlaysoutexpectationsfortheJuly1,2017submission.AndIthinkwe'llbeinongoingdialoguewithboththeFederalReserveaswellastheFDICoverthenext,atleast12months,tomakesurethatwespecificallyunderstandthem.
SoIthinkit'sgoingtobeacombinationofallthethingsthatyoujustdescribed.There'slikelytobesomeadditionalinfrastructuretobebuilt.Someofitwillbeadditionalmodelingcapabilities.Someofitwillbeadditionalmonitoringcapabilities.Andalsoasyoucorrectlyindicated,Iwouldexpecttoseeadditionallegalentitysimplificationovertimeaswell.ButIreallythinkit'salittlebittooearlytotrytobespecificuntilwehavemoreongoingdialoguewithbothgroups.
Geof f reyElliott (Analyst-AutonomousResearch):
Thankyou.AndthenjusttofollowuponthepreviousquestionontherenotbeingacontractuallockupontheGEAssetManagementassets.Whynot?Iwouldthoughtthatwhenyou'reacquiringamanager,andthevastmajorityoftheassetsarein-house,thatwouldbeabsolutelycriticaltomakingsureyoudon'tjustgettheone-yearaccretion,buttheaccretionthree,four,five,10yearsout.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Iwouldsay,Geoff,itsapensionplan,soithasalistofrestrictions.IfyoulookatSSGA,probablythebiggestsegmentthattheymanageforarepensionplans.Andtheydothat,andastheyarefulfillingtheirreturnexpectations,it'sunlikelythat,thatchanges.AndsoGEhasbeenmanagingthisplanforalongtime.Weseeinourbusiness--theOCIOmarket,verystickyassets.
SoIdon't,frankly,viewitas--Iviewitasnotaconcernatall.Aslongaswedowhatwearebeingaskedtodo--whichwedoeverydayformanycustomersaroundtheworld--thenwethinktheseassetswillbewithusforatime.Andthefactthatwe'regoingtocombineitwithourbusinessgivesusmorescaleandexpertise,andwillmakeusamoreattractivecounterpartyforotherpensionplansthatwanttooutsourcethat.Iviewitasastable,stickyseriesofassets,withsomecapabilitieswedon'thavetodaythatwillallowustogrowthebase.
Geof f reyElliott (Analyst-AutonomousResearch):
Thankyou.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Great.
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GerardCassidy,RBC.
GerardCassidy(Analyst-RBCCapitalMarkets):
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Thankyou.Canyouguyssharewithusonthenewbusinesswinsonthenetassetservicingsideofabout$264billion,whatpercentageofthatwastheFirstStateSuperAustraliawin?Andthensecond,what'sthepipelinelookforthesecondquarter?
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Yes,letmetakethatone,Gerard.Ican'tgiveyouFirstStateSuper,butwhatIwouldtellyouisthatofthe$264billion,alittlebitunusually,50%ofthatcamefromAsia-Pacific.Sowe'vebeenrunningmoreprobably60%/40%,US,non-US.Forthisquarter,itwasmore70%/30%,30%beingUS,70%non-US.SogoodprogressinAsia-Pacific,reallyanchoredinnotonlyAustralia,whichIhighlighted,butthatwe'vealsoseensomemovementinJapan.Wherewe'veseenthefirstoutsourcingofinvestmenttrustfunds,somethingwe'vebeenpursuingforalongtime.Sothat'sthefirstquestion.
Thesecond--pipelinesarequitefull.Ithinkthat--I'vesaidthatbefore--butifyoulookattheassetowner,andmaybeevenmorespecifically,theassetmanagementsegment.Betweendifficultyinachievingabove-benchmarkreturnstoincreasingregulatorypressure,we'veneverseenthedemandforthingslikemiddleofficeoutsourcingthatwehaveonourplaterightnow.Andimportantly,inthatparticularproduct,there'sawillingnesstoacceptstandardizedservices.SoIfeelverygoodaboutthepipeline,notonlyfromageographicstandpoint,butacross,inparticular,assetmanagers,butassetserviceownersaswell.
GerardCassidy(Analyst-RBCCapitalMarkets):
Thankyou.AndthenmaybeMike,whenwelookatyouraveragebalancesheetthatyou'vegiveusonthesupplement,onpage11,Inoticedthattheinterest-bearingdepositsintheUnitedStates,theyieldonthatorthecost,Ishouldsaytoyouguys,jumpedfrom23basispointsto40basispoints.Andthenthisisquiteabitdifferentthansomeofyourpeers.Whatcausedittojumpupthatmuch?
MikeBell(CFO):
Sure,Gerard.Firstofall,themaindriverinthatcategoryisactuallythecostofourwholesaleCDs.Sowehaveapproximately$15billion,onaverage,ofwholesaleCDbalancesinQ1,andthosemovedwithLIBORrates.Sothat'sthedriverofthesequentialincreasethere.Ifwestrippedthoseoutandjustlookedattheinterest-bearingDDA,thatwasprettyclosetoflat,sequentially.Soit'sreallythewholesaleCDs.
GerardCassidy(Analyst-RBCCapitalMarkets):
AndtheCDsasapercentageoftotalthatyoujustgaveus,isthatconsistentwiththosepriorperiods?Orisitagreaterpercentagetodaythanitwasinthosepriorperiods?
MikeBell(CFO):
It'sprobablyaslightlysmallerpercentagetodayat$15billion.WeusedthewholesaleCDsasamanagementtoolaroundliquidity.Andthosebalanceswereactuallyalittlebithigherin2015.Nowremember,therateswerelower,becauseLIBORwaslowerin2015thanwhatitisinQ12016.
GerardCassidy(Analyst-RBCCapitalMarkets):
Great.Thankyou.
Operator :
VivekJuneja.
VivekJuneja(Analyst-JPMorgan):
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Hi,thankyoufortakingmyquestions.Acoupleofthings.Firstly,Mike,justfollowinguponthequestionyouweretalkingaboutontherepomarket,yousaidmajorityoftheincreaseinspreadscanbesustainedoverthenextcoupleofquarters.Canyougiveusalittlemorecoloronwhat'sgoingoninthatmarketstructurallythat'scausingthiswideninginspreads,andthatwillsustainit?
MikeBell(CFO):
Sure,Vivek.Reallyit'sacombinationofthefactthatshort-terminterestrateshaveobviouslygoneupwiththeFedfundhike.Andit'salsojustafunctionofsupplyanddemand.Andsowewillmonitorthoseconditionscarefully.ButIseenothingthatwouldsuggestthat,that'sgoingtoevaporatehereinQ2.Soagain,it'ssomethingthatwewillpaycloseattentionto.
VivekJuneja(Analyst-JPMorgan):
Okay,thanks.Justshiftinggears,Jay,ifIlookatofyourassetmanagementbusiness,ifIlookattheoperatingmargininthefourthquarter,itwas13%.AndifIlookatfullyear,assetmanagementmarginwas19%andchange.13%forthefourthquarterand19%andchange,soreallylowmargincomparedtopeers.Canyoutalklittlebitaboutspecificallythatbusiness?Whatyoucandoto--especiallywhenmovingthingslikeETFs,whatyoucandotoacceleratetheoperatingmarginimprovement?Andwhyit'ssofarbehindpeers?
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Sure,Vivek.I'mhappytotakethat.We'renotpleasedwiththemarginintheSSGAbusiness--IthinkIsaidthatbefore.Andwedothinkbyre-orientingaroundthestrategicprioritiesthatwelaidoutbackinFebruary--whichareanchoredinETFsolutions,OCIOasanadditionalcategory--thatwe'regettingtherightleveloffocusandinvestingattherightamountinordertodrive,really,topline.Andalsocreatemoreefficiencythroughthefocus.
AndIthinkthatifyoulookoveranextendedperiodoftime,youwouldhaveseenwe'vehitatroughwithregardtoreturns.AndIfeelliketheinvestmentsthatwe'vebeenmakingarestartingtocreatesometraction.AndIlookatETFsand,really,solutionsasbeingthecornerstoneofthat.InadditiontosomeofthepositioningwehaveinmarketsoutsidetheUS,again,Iwouldpointtothosesametwocornerstoneelements.
Sowe'reworkingonit.Wethinkwe'remakingtherightinvestments.Ithinkfocusisimportant.SSGA,insomerespects,doesnothavealotofpurecomps,givenwhatitdoes,andwe'retryingtobeverygoodatacoupleofthings,anddothemwellglobally.AndIthinkwe'reontherighttrack.
VivekJuneja(Analyst-JPMorgan):
Anddoyouthinkitwillbesooner,SSGA,intermsof--youknow,you'vegivenouttargetsforoverallCompanyoperatingmarginimprovement.DoyouseeSSGAasdoingsametimeframeorsooner,Jay,comparedtotheservicingbusiness?
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
I'vegottwoviewsonthat,Vivek.Oneis,yes,sooner,becausewe'remakingproportionallymoreinvestmentsintheSSGAbusiness.AndIthinkyoualsoneedtocomebacktooneofthecommentswemadearoundtheGEacquisition.AswelookatourdifferentbusinesseswithinStateStreetandlookatreturns,SSGAhasadisproportionatelyhigherreturn,asdoesabusinesslikeglobalexchange.
Soaswelookatinvestinginareasthatwe'vehadnaturalgrowthupside,andinaddition,wouldbeaccretivetoourreturnonequity,wearegoingtoproportionallyleaninthatdirection.SoIthinkfor
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thosereasons,IwouldexpectthatyouwouldseeSSGAimprovesoonerthantherestofthefranchise.
VivekJuneja(Analyst-JPMorgan):
Thankyou.
Operator :
BrianBedell.
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Theassetsunderadministrationlookedliketherewasasignificantdeclineinthepensionproductarea,from$5.5trillionto$5.2trillion.Justwaswonderingwhatdrovethat?
MikeBell(CFO):
Nothingspecific,Brian.It'sreallybenegativeimpactofmarketsthat'sthebigdriverthere.
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Onthepensionside,okay.Wasthe6%linked-quarter--wasallmarket-related?
MikeBell(CFO):
Iwouldn'tsayallmarket-related.Idon'thavethatdesegregationrateatmyfiguretips.ButthemaindropintheAUAwas,infact,frommarkets.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Nothinggoingonfromalostbusinessstandpointthat's(multiplespeakers)
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Oh,okay.That'swhatIwasgettingit.Okay,great.Thanksforthat.Andthenjusttaxrateguidance,Iguess,wouldimplythatwe'dbebetweenthehigherendforthenextthreequarters,givenitwas29%for1Q?Isthatfair?
MikeBell(CFO):
Yes,Ithinkthat'sfair,Brian.Firstofall,theoperatingtaxratethatweprovideisheavilyimpactedbytaxadvantagedinvestments.Andsojustbasedontheseasonalpatternoftax-advantagedinvestments,wetendtoseethepatternthatyou'redescribing.Sonothingparticularlysurprisingthere,andweexperiencedasimilarpatternin2015.
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Gotit.Andthenjustlastly,Ithink,Mike,youtalkedaboutthefuturesclearingbusiness.ButtheimpactoftheReutersbusiness[firstsold]toThomsonReuters?AnddoesthatflowthroughtheFXtradingline,oristhatonadifferentline?
MikeBell(CFO):
That'sin--let'ssee,it'sintheother--it'sinthefeeslineitem.Inthebrokerageandotherfeeslineitem.
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
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Brokerage,okay.Andisthat--canyousizethat,justfrom[owing]?
MikeBell(CFO):
Idon'thavethatrightatmyfingertips.It'srelativelysmall.Wecanfollowupwithyouofflineonthatone,Brian.
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Yes,perfect.Thankyou.Thanksalot,guys.
Operator :
Okay,thankyou.Andthatwasourfinalquestion.
JayHooley(Chairman&CEO):
Thanks,Operator,andthanks,everybody,forjoiningusthismorning.Welookforwardtotalkingwitheverybodyattheendofthesecondquarter.
Operator :
Ladiesandgentlemen,thankyouforjoiningtoday'sconference.
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