SRNWP meeting, Dubrovnik OMSZ PROPOSAL 10-11 October, 2007.1 OMSZ proposal for becoming responsible member of the C-SRNWP programme ANDRÁS HORÁNYI ([email protected])

1SRNWP meeting, Dubrovnik

OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

OMSZ proposal for becoming OMSZ proposal for becoming responsible member of the C-SRNWP responsible member of the C-SRNWP

programmeprogramme

ANDRÁS HORÁNYIANDRÁS HORÁNYI ([email protected])([email protected])

Hungarian Meteorological ServiceHungarian Meteorological Service


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

BOUNDARY CONDITIONS (1)BOUNDARY CONDITIONS (1)

• Call for proposals by EUMETNET (issued in May, Call for proposals by EUMETNET (issued in May, deadline: 20th of July)deadline: 20th of July)

• Duration: 2008 – 2011 (4 years)Duration: 2008 – 2011 (4 years)

• EUMETNET Council agreed to increase the “level of EUMETNET Council agreed to increase the “level of ambition” for SRNWP (“Proposal for the continuation ambition” for SRNWP (“Proposal for the continuation of the SRNWP Programme as an enlarged EUMETNET of the SRNWP Programme as an enlarged EUMETNET Optional Programme” – compiled by the Redaction Optional Programme” – compiled by the Redaction Committee representing all the NWP Consortia), but Committee representing all the NWP Consortia), but with unchanged financial meanswith unchanged financial means


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

BOUNDARY CONDITIONS (2)BOUNDARY CONDITIONS (2)

• The “Interoperability” programme was also accepted by The “Interoperability” programme was also accepted by the EUMETNET Council (call for responsible member the EUMETNET Council (call for responsible member was published at the same time).was published at the same time).

• The “EUREPS” programme was provisionally refusedThe “EUREPS” programme was provisionally refused

• Proposal for the “Verification” programme is Proposal for the “Verification” programme is anticipated by the Councilanticipated by the Council


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

THE SKELETON OF THE PROPOSALTHE SKELETON OF THE PROPOSAL

• ObjectivesObjectives

• Organisation and structureOrganisation and structure

• Practical details and action planPractical details and action plan


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

MAIN OBJECTIVESMAIN OBJECTIVES

• Enhanced scientific cooperation between the five Enhanced scientific cooperation between the five European LAM Consortia specifically targeted to the European LAM Consortia specifically targeted to the elements of the EUMETNET Vision of NWPelements of the EUMETNET Vision of NWP

• Diffusion of NWP knowledge, efficient information Diffusion of NWP knowledge, efficient information exchangeexchange– Organisation of workshops; annual Organisation of workshops; annual

EWGLAMEWGLAM//SRNWP meetingsSRNWP meetings– Organisation of thematic projectsOrganisation of thematic projects – SRNWP web siteSRNWP web site


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

ORGANISATION and STRUCTUREORGANISATION and STRUCTURE• Programme Manager Programme Manager

• SRNWP Advisory Committee: board of the project managers SRNWP Advisory Committee: board of the project managers of the 5 European LAM Consortia (ALADIN, COSMO, of the 5 European LAM Consortia (ALADIN, COSMO, HIRLAM, LACE, MetOffice) + Programme Manager HIRLAM, LACE, MetOffice) + Programme Manager (meeting twice per year?)(meeting twice per year?)

• SRNWP projects: goal-oriented ventures of mutually SRNWP projects: goal-oriented ventures of mutually important areas of scientific and/or technical (operational) important areas of scientific and/or technical (operational) interestinterest– Length, deliverables, means Length, deliverables, means – Responsible consortiaResponsible consortia– Project TeamProject Team

• Annual meetingAnnual meeting


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

MAIN DUTIES OF PROGRAMME MANAGERMAIN DUTIES OF PROGRAMME MANAGER

• Realisation of the 18 recommendations of the NWP Vision Realisation of the 18 recommendations of the NWP Vision meetingmeeting

• Support the information exchange between the membersSupport the information exchange between the members• Organisation of Advisory Committee meetings (status reports)Organisation of Advisory Committee meetings (status reports)• Initiation of projects for the enhanced NWP cooperationInitiation of projects for the enhanced NWP cooperation• Monitoring of existing projects, support the efficient work of Monitoring of existing projects, support the efficient work of

Project TeamsProject Teams• Reporting to EUMETNET Council, liaison with other Reporting to EUMETNET Council, liaison with other

EUMETNET programmesEUMETNET programmes• Help in the preparation of EWGLAM meetingsHelp in the preparation of EWGLAM meetings• Intensify cooperation with ECMWF and EUMETSAT (and with Intensify cooperation with ECMWF and EUMETSAT (and with

non-European organisations)non-European organisations)• Maintain an up-to-date SRNWP websiteMaintain an up-to-date SRNWP website


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

SRNWP ADVISORY COMMITTEESRNWP ADVISORY COMMITTEE

• Review the strategic developments within Review the strategic developments within European NWP and identification of needs for of European NWP and identification of needs for of specific projects and/or coordinated activitiesspecific projects and/or coordinated activities

• Definition and initiation of projects or activities Definition and initiation of projects or activities and monitor their progressand monitor their progress

• Advices to the Programme Manager for all matters Advices to the Programme Manager for all matters of the Programmeof the Programme


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

SRNWP PROJECTSSRNWP PROJECTS

• Planning and organising all SRNWP activities in their Planning and organising all SRNWP activities in their area of responsibility with special emphasis on area of responsibility with special emphasis on concrete deliverablesconcrete deliverables

• Planning and organisation of workshops and meetingsPlanning and organisation of workshops and meetings– Foster exchange of information (also non-Foster exchange of information (also non-

European researchers and “academia”).European researchers and “academia”).• Reporting to the Programme Manager and to the Reporting to the Programme Manager and to the

annual EWGLAMannual EWGLAM//SRNWP meetingSRNWP meeting• Identification of suitable areas of cooperation projects Identification of suitable areas of cooperation projects

aimed at specific deliverables of EUMETNETaimed at specific deliverables of EUMETNET


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

EWGLAMEWGLAM//SRNWP ANNUAL MEETINGSRNWP ANNUAL MEETING

• One annual meeting (early autumn)One annual meeting (early autumn)• All Programme Members are welcome to attendAll Programme Members are welcome to attend• ““Usual” topics:Usual” topics:

– Report of Programme ManagerReport of Programme Manager– Status reports of ongoing SRNWP projects Status reports of ongoing SRNWP projects

(Responsible members)(Responsible members)– Review of possible interactions with other Review of possible interactions with other

EUMETNET programmesEUMETNET programmes– Planning of SRNWP activities for the coming yearPlanning of SRNWP activities for the coming year


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

PRACTICAL ISSUES, QUESTIONSPRACTICAL ISSUES, QUESTIONS

• A good and efficient working relation between the A good and efficient working relation between the SRNWP Programme Manager and the Consortia’s SRNWP Programme Manager and the Consortia’s managers is a must!!!managers is a must!!!

• The frequency of the AdvThe frequency of the Adviissoory Committee meetings?ry Committee meetings?

• The SRNWP Programme will have several projects The SRNWP Programme will have several projects (e.g. interoperability, EUREPS, verification): how (e.g. interoperability, EUREPS, verification): how these projects are linked to the “umbrella” these projects are linked to the “umbrella” Programme?Programme?

• What about the thematic working groups, how shall What about the thematic working groups, how shall we organise them?we organise them?


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

PROPOSALS (FOR THIS MEETING)PROPOSALS (FOR THIS MEETING)

• Overview of the existing project proposals: inter-Overview of the existing project proposals: inter-operability, EUREPS, verification.operability, EUREPS, verification.

• Relation between the Programme and the projectsRelation between the Programme and the projects

• Establishment of the thematic working groups Establishment of the thematic working groups – Topics, organisationTopics, organisation

• Definition of next stepsDefinition of next steps– Advisory Committee meetingAdvisory Committee meeting


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

FINAL REMARKSFINAL REMARKS

• I understand that people has mixed feelings about the I understand that people has mixed feelings about the “EUMETNET-driven” NWP cooperation (do we really “EUMETNET-driven” NWP cooperation (do we really need to be formal; EUMETNET Council decisions need to be formal; EUMETNET Council decisions without our control etc.)without our control etc.)

• Please consider to have an SRNWP Programme Please consider to have an SRNWP Programme Manager Manager aas a possibility and not as a possibility and not a burden burden: it is up to : it is up to you, how much you want him to work for the common you, how much you want him to work for the common goalsgoals


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

RELATION BETWEEN THE CORE RELATION BETWEEN THE CORE PROGRAMME AND THE PROJECTSPROGRAMME AND THE PROJECTS

• SRNWP Programme: support the cooperation between SRNWP Programme: support the cooperation between the 5 LAM Consortia through the initiation, monitoring the 5 LAM Consortia through the initiation, monitoring and realisation of projectsand realisation of projects

• Projects: separate, independently financed NWP projects Projects: separate, independently financed NWP projects (interoperability, EUREPS, verification etc.) with (interoperability, EUREPS, verification etc.) with concrete deliverables, means, resourcesconcrete deliverables, means, resources

→ → They are not independent in practise!!! How to resolve They are not independent in practise!!! How to resolve this contradiction???this contradiction???


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

ONE POSSIBLE RESOLUTIONONE POSSIBLE RESOLUTION

• The projects are functioning under the SRNWP The projects are functioning under the SRNWP Programme, but with independent financial meansProgramme, but with independent financial means

• SRNWP Programme Manager and the Advisory SRNWP Programme Manager and the Advisory CommitteeCommittee– Initiation and monitoring of the projectsInitiation and monitoring of the projects– Projects are reporting to the Programme Manager and Projects are reporting to the Programme Manager and

the Advisory Committeethe Advisory Committee– Programme Manager and the Advisory Committee Programme Manager and the Advisory Committee

makes the liaison between the projects and the makes the liaison between the projects and the EUMETNET CouncilEUMETNET Council


OMSZ PROPOSAL

10-11 October, 2007.

OTHERWISE: WHAT IS THE OTHERWISE: WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE?ALTERNATIVE?

• What is the role of the SRNWP Programme and the What is the role of the SRNWP Programme and the Programme Manager?Programme Manager?– To coordinate such projects, which are not financed To coordinate such projects, which are not financed

by EUMETNET?by EUMETNET?– How to consider the cross-cut issues (between How to consider the cross-cut issues (between

EUMETNET supported projects and „simple” EUMETNET supported projects and „simple” projects)?projects)?

– Imagine such projects, where the most important Imagine such projects, where the most important activities are realised independently from the others activities are realised independently from the others (is it realistic?)(is it realistic?)

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SRNWP meeting, Dubrovnik OMSZ PROPOSAL 10-11 October, 2007.1 OMSZ proposal for becoming responsible member of the C-SRNWP programme ANDRÁS HORÁNYI ([email protected])