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Shani ShingnapurControversy Discrimination orDiscretion?In this weeks Spot, Sadhguru gives his view on
the current controversy about the Shani
Shingnapur temple. We also have a video in which
Sadhguru speaks about Rama and Jesus, and the
quality that makes them inspiring and relevant to
this day.
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uestioner:Sadhguru, why are women not being allowed into certain
temples? For example, now with the Shani temple. Why this
discrimination?
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If you have access to
inner technology, it
will level out these
planetary impacts.
Sadhguru:At Linga Bhairavi, men are not allowed to enter the
sanctum sanctorum, but they never protest. They are married and
domesticated they have been trained not to protest against
anything (laughter).
It needs to be understood that these temples are not places of
prayer they are different types of energies. Since we are aware
that the planets in the solar system have an impact upon our
physiology, our psychological structure, and the context of our
lives, we have created temples for the different planets.
Based on the time and date of
your birth, and the latitude and
longitude of your place of birth,
Indian astrologers make complex
calculations to see which planets
have the greatest influence on
your life. These things are
relevant to you to some extent.
However, if you have access to
inner technology, it will level out
these planetary impacts.
Shani or Saturn, which is a faraway planet, takes 30 years to
complete one revolution around the sun. Considering the
revolutions of Saturn and those of the Earth, and your birth
details, they can calculate what impact Saturn has on you at
different times of your life.
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Shani is one of the sons of Surya, the sun the other one being
Yama. Shani is the lord of dominance, distress, depression,
disease, and disaster. Yama is the lord of death the D
company. These two are brothers-in-arms, always working in
tandem. Their mother, Suryas wife, is Chaya. Chaya meansshadow. This is science expressed in a dialectical way. The sun
is the source of light for us. His wife is Chaya shadow. Only
because there is sunlight, there is shadow.
The seventh day, Saturday, is the day of Saturn. Seven being Saat,
it is Saaturday or Saturday. Saturn is the seventh planet or graha
in the Indian astrological system. The word graha means to
grasp or to impact. Saturn as per modern astronomy is the
sixth planet. But the Indian astrology looked at celestial objects
which have a strong impact on life upon this planet. In that
context, Sun and Moon are also counted as grahas, not to be
understood as planets, making Saturn the seventh graha.
In the order of grahas that have a strong influence upon this
planet Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn
though Shani is the seventh, he is a very dominant force, as
health and happiness give you freedom of life, but disease and
depression will seriously dominate your life. The question is areyou allowing external forces, such as the celestial objects, to
influence or impact you, or is your inner nature the only influence
upon you. Hence, in this tradition, profound astrologers refused
to make predictions for those who are on the spiritual path or
under the influence of a spiritual Guru.
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Because occult
processes are
conducted there,
the energies are not
conducive for
women.
Because his is a 30-year cycle,
once in 30 years, you become
more susceptible to the influence
of Saturn. This phase, known as
Saade Saati, or in Tamil, YelaraiShani, lasts for seven and a half
years. You may become more
susceptible to disease,
depression, disasters, and death,
and more vulnerable to external
influences. In order to bridge thepits that may occur during a
Saade Saati, various processes
and rituals are associated with Shani temples.
There are temples for Shani Deva, where Saturn is personified as
a god. Currently, there is this controversy about allowing womento enter a certain temple in Maharashtra, the Shani Shingnapur
temple. Very powerful processes are conducted at this temple.
Shani temples are mainly used for occult purposes and exorcism.
People come there mainly to ward off occult influences or because
they feel they are possessed. Because occult processes are
conducted there, the energies are not conducive for women. As awoman is entrusted with the significant responsibility of
manufacturing the next generation, her body is far more receptive
and vulnerable to certain types of energies especially during
pregnancy and menstrual cycles.
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We need to educatepeople about the
science behind
these temples
what they are about
Should women not enter the sanctum at all? They could if they
were appropriately trained for it, but it would be much more
difficult to train women than men for this purpose, simply
because of a few biological advantages men have in this area of
life. In the very nature of female biology, occult forces can have adeeper impact upon her system.
To remove occult influences and perform exorcisms, certain
energies are used that are not nice for a woman at all. Shani is not
nice. But he is a part of our lives we have to deal with him too.
Because of these occult forces, women are asked not to enter the
area where such things are done. It would not be good for their
physical wellbeing.
When certain things go wrong with life, you have to deal with
them in a certain way, which may not be pleasant. These temples
were created for this purpose. Today, some people perceive it as
discrimination that women should not enter this space. It is not
discrimination but discretion.
Maybe the way it is enforced is
crude and seems discriminatory,
and that is why these women are
protesting. If one day, men
protest in front of Linga Bhairavi
and want to enter the sanctum, I
will lock it. I will not let them
into sanctum because it is not
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and why they were
built.
designed for men unless they are
appropriately trained for it. This
is not discrimination it is
necessary discretion. The space
of Dhyanalinga, for one half ofthe lunar cycle, is managed by
men; for the other half, it is managed by women as that is the
nature of an inclusive consecration, which Dhyanalinga is.
At certain temples, like the Velliangiri hill temple, women are
prevented from going up the mountain, as the path goes through
dense forest that was rich in wildlife in the past, and it was
considered unsafe for women to take this journey. But today,
these rules can be relaxed.
In view of the demand to allow women entry to the Shani temple,
we need to educate people about the science behind these temples
what they are about and why they were built. In todays
democratic fervor, we want to establish equality, but in certain
contexts, this would work to the disadvantage of women.
Otherwise, we are one species and two genders. Except for a few
areas such as this one, the only places where gender should
matter are bathrooms and bedrooms.
Love & Grace,
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Why Rama and Jesus Are an Inspiration
Why Rama and Jesus Are an Inspiration
This video was recorded at the recent In the Lap of the Master
Satsang with Sadhguru on the weekend of 16 and 17 January 2016
at the iii, Tennessee, USA.
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Cancer is a serious
aberration in the
human
system. Classical Yoga
brings harmony and
neutralizes aberrations.
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Ambedkar Podeti
Namaskaram Sadhguru, Thanks for the
explanation.... People need to be educated
about these temples, otherwise it looks to be
discrimination....Andwhat about the
solution for women if they influenced by theShani.. And Thanks for the grace as "in this
tradition, profound astrologers refused to
make predictions for those who are on the
spiritual path or under the influence of a
spiritual Guru"..
KannanR
Very good explanation as always. It would be
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nice if Sadhguru gives an explanation on
women of certain age not being allowed to
enter Ayappa temple as well. Unfortunately
the liberal secularists have done enough
damage to the public view on this matter
with out proper understanding of the issue.
And are supreme court judges supposed to
decide on these matter?
Karthikeyan Shivasubramaniam
Most of The temples in Kerala, tantric
rituals are done and not agamic
rituals (even though agamas contain
a mild amount I tantricism ).
Chotanikkarai, meenkulathubagavathi Amman temple are pure
tantric temples with 100% tantrika
Pooja. Same could be the reason for
sabarimala. The liberals should
protest for hijab, face veil, oral
divorces, polygamy, sex without
concent, treated as slaves etc by RoP
people instead of fighting for trivial
matters like these.
Vinita Verma
Beautifully explained by Sadhguru :)
Swadhin Pattnaik
How Sri Sri Ravishnkar's view and
Sadhguru's views are contradicting in theplace ..
Rami Nair
Maybe sri sri "Handled" the situation
? you should realize how much these
great gurus know :)
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Swadhin Pattnaik
I dont under estimate any one
of them ..this country still
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