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    Sananda and the 'Ascended'

    Masters : Self Serving Beings?

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    Updated October 2004 (Sananda and the

    Reiki, Shambhala and Ascension (January 2009)

    Sananda's Eager to Ascend (January 2007)

    A Bunch of Melchizedeks (January 2007)

    Responses from Readers (July 2007)

    Exploring The Theocratic Mind

    Latest Changes

    While reading through interesting material by the Great Central Sun throughKaren Danrich I was quite surprised by the claim that beings like Sananda,

    St. Germain, Djwahl Kuhl and many other Ascended Masters would be

    entities that have their own self serving agenda. This was the first time I

    have come across such claims. This material through Karen Danrich was, as

    far as I know, unique in this perspective. However, a reader from Australia

    told me about a man called Barry Long (who died in december 2003) who

    had similar claims in regard to these 'Ascended Masters'. A reader from the

    Netherlands informed me about Alice Bailey and that her source (Djwhal

    Kuhl, an ascended master ('The Tibetan')) would have a hidden agenda.

    A Hungarian woman directed me to the book 'War in Heaven' dealing with

    astral beings called 'theocrats' that look a lot like the ascended masters,who use people to sustain their own existence. Read more about this in the

    'Ascend Press'), it would mean that quite a few channelings I have placed

    on this site would lose credibility. Like always, it is up to you to decide what

    rings true to you.

    Perhaps I am completely wrong and am I placing untruthful and provocative

    material, but I was somehow impressed by it. Is Karen Danrich the only

    medium that has brought us such information? If you have other sources

    which look credible, who claim this as well, please contact me.

    If you want to know more about the way I study this Karen Danrich material

    click HERE. For some discussion, responses and questions go to the

    discussion section. Note that many links to the original Great Central Sun

    transmissions have been removed from the Ascendpress Site during the

    years. You can still read them on this site by clicking HERE

    Hold on tight before entering the rest of this page!

    Related articles: Merkaba, Heaven, Crucifixion Thoughtform,

    'Geascendeerde Meesters' (Dutch), Ascended Masters (distracting section),

    Beneficial Ascension or not?

    Before I can start presenting the excerpts I have in mind I need to tell you a

    bit about the Great Central Sun, about the Annunaki, about the Red Seeded

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    Race and the beings from Orion largely based upon the stories from the

    Great Central Sun. Our planet Earth has

    decided to ascend. Ascension being the

    process of speeding up all matter and

    releasing karma and regain more

    consciousness in order to enter a different

    level of being, to reach a lighter dimension of

    density. Like a client in psychotherapy Earth

    has entered many layers of her unconscious

    and to push the allegory a bit further, hertherapist has started to map the contents of

    Earth's unconscious territory. The therapist

    would be the Great Central Sun who has

    received information from Earth about every month. To be clear: Earth

    desired to ascend, wanted to release all her karma and the karma thrust on

    her in her long history.

    Through Karen Danrich or Mila the Great Central Sun tells us about this

    history, about the waking up of Earth. We are being given a view at what

    happened on our planet thousands and thousands of years ago. Many items

    will be added to this website in the future, so you are bound to come across

    much material from this source on this site. The material is so elaborate thatit is nearly impossible to tell you everything in a few sentences, so this is

    only a brief summary.

    According to the material presented by Earth Sirius seeded a Red Race

    some 300,000 years ago. Among this Seeded Red Race were humans with

    about 60% of the genetics of an average being from Sirius. The Sirians also

    introduced a spiritually elite group op humans who were to assist the other

    beings in ascending.

    After a while the Pleiadean Annunaki came and wanted to strip mine Earth

    for gold and minerals. As they were mainly electrical in origin they asked

    scientists from Orion to help them to change the magnetic Earth into a

    electromagnetic planet. This caused a major fall in consciousness for the

    magnetically oriented seeded race on Earth. This all happened without

    asking any approval from the beings on Earth.

    The Annunaki stayed and didn't want to ascend at all. They wanted to

    obtain immortality and they wanted humans to work for them in the mines

    and for their pleasures. So, they again asked Orion scientists to help them,

    which they did. They created an electrically oriented human slave race with

    poor genetics that was designed to be docile and follow the orders of the

    Annunaki.

    The Orion scientists brought with them electrical beings from Orion

    who were to make sure that the slave race remained docile.Beings who were able to keep the slaves in desired thought forms were thus

    introduced 128,000 years ago. At first they listened to the Annunaki, but in

    time these beings under the leadership of Sananda overtook Earth and they

    have had dominion over Earth ever since.

    Here are a few excerpts from the original texts (The Great Central Sun

    through Mila) to give you an impression:

    As a result, from Orion and by the Orion scientists, the beings

    known as Kuthumi, Dwajl Kuhl, Serapis Bay, Hilarion, Paul the

    Venucian, El Moreya, St. Germain, Lady Nada, Maitreya,

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    Melchiezedek, Vishnu, and Rama came to Earth. These beings

    were invited to hold the vibrations necessary to build the slave

    embodiments utilizing a total of 12 tones of creation that were

    electrical in nature. Additionally, a being known as Sananda was

    imported to oversee all other beings holding the vibrations for

    the Annanuki slave race upon Earth.

    The slaves were programmed to worship these beings as "god" in

    the non-physical. It is perhaps for this reason that so many

    humans upon the spiritual path continue to worship such beingsto this day. The slaves were programmed to be owned by the

    gods in physical form whom were the Annanuki. The Annanuki

    could utilize their own electrical flow to control the slave

    populace. And indeed they did, at least for a time. Earth Transits

    Reign of the Dark

    A few pages later we read under the caption 'Sananda's dominion over the

    cosmos' the following:

    As Sananda overtook Earth, he began to dance with the red race

    in their ascension temples. Over time the signatures that were

    once solely magnetic were altered to become increasingly

    electrical as each subsequent generation ascended. The

    increasing electrical signatures allowed Sananda to ascend to the

    next dimension. In so doing, Sananda soon built his dominion

    over your solar system, universe and eventually cosmos.

    The use of electrical signatures in ascension within a magnetic

    creation creates a unique pattern that the Great Central Sun has

    never seen before. This pattern is one in which thought-form that

    is third dimensional in nature is inflated in vibration until such

    thought-form becomes fifth dimensional in nature. Sananda took

    the 18 thought forms of dominion over the slaves and inflated

    them through ascension such that the dominion based thought-

    form became fifth dimensional in vibration. In so doing, Sananda

    was able to overrun the angels holding Earth's solar system

    together shattering them just as the angels of Earth had been

    shattered as Sananda inflated in size in Earth's history.

    From the fifth dimension, Sananda repeated the same, inflating

    the dominion-based thought-form until it became 12th

    dimensional in vibration, overrunning the Universe that Earth is

    related. Again, as Sananda grew to universal in size, the

    vibrations inherent in his thought-form shattered the angels and

    beings holding the universe causing Sananda to gain dominion.

    The dominion over your cosmos was obtained in a parallelmanner to how Sananda created dominion over the 3rd, 5th, and

    12th dimensions. It was the last ascension upon Earth by a being

    known as Buddha that allowed Sananda to have just enough chi

    to push his thought-form to a cosmic level vibration. From a

    cosmic level, Sananda could control all 3rd,, 5th and 12th

    dimensional planets and stars within the Great Central Sun.

    As Earth revealed and released the karma related to how

    Sananda inflated his thought-form of dominion, all other

    dimensions that have been under the dominion of Sananda

    simultaneously released their karma dismantling the patterns

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    related throughout the 3rd, 5th 12th and 25th dimensions. One

    can see in this why Earth's ascension is so pivotal, as without the

    records as to how Sananda had come into dominion, there would

    have been no ability for any dimension under his control to

    relinquish the reign of the dark. It is also a grand truth that if

    Sananda was not removed, that the 25th dimension would split

    off and fail to ascend altogether creating an incomplete

    ascension for your Great Central

    Sun.http://www.ascendpress.org/articles/great-cen-sun/Sun4.html

    I remember Sananda saying that he once incarnated Jesus. You can read

    more about the crucifixion thought-form by clicking here. The Great Central

    Sun has something to say about that claim as well:

    Many an initiate has written to our channels as of late in

    confusion about Jesus and Sananda, perceiving them as one and

    the same. Beloved, Jesus was a man. Sananda was a nonphysical

    being, one of 500 that guided the life of Jesus. Furthermore, there

    are currently incarnate over 1.2 million humans with a direct

    lineage to the man known as Jesus. Many of such humans are

    clearing the karma Jesus incurred in present time.

    What was Jesus' karma? In the crucifixion of Jesus, Jesus

    anchored the thought-form that the end result of the spiritual path

    is death by crucifixion. The thought-form of crucifixion became

    global because Jesus was ascending at the time he died.

    Furthermore, Sananda was one soul that guided Jesus to

    embrace his crucifixion. One may review the current human

    archives, which hold records of every conversation Sananda and

    Jesus had. Such archives are found within the Temple of Human

    Ancestry upon Earth.

    Why did Sananda guide Jesus to his death? It is only if earth's

    ascension failed that Sananda would retain dominion over Earth.

    This could only occur if humans failed to ascend. It is far easier

    to create failed human ascensions if humans believe that the end

    result of the spiritual path is death, crucifixion or annihilation. It

    is time to take Jesus off of the cross. It is also time to cease to

    believe that death is the outcome of the spiritual journey. All

    karma for crucifixion has been released through ascending

    humans in recent months.

    ...Sananda is not Jesus. Sananda was one soul out of 500 that

    guided Jesus. Jesus remembered that Sananda guided him down

    the wrong path to the wrong fate, and remembered enough not to

    repeat the same dance in the lifetime of Mother Theresa. Soul

    learns and chooses not to repeat the same dance again. So doesform, provided there is a connection between ancestries. Why did

    Mother Theresa remember when so many do not? Through

    ascension, one calls forth their ancestors. Mother Theresa united

    with the consciousness of Jesus as her ancestor and Jesus guided

    her to stay away from the guidance of Sananda. In so doing, she

    succeeded at her goal when Jesus did not. One may also review

    the guidance of Jesus towards Mother Theresa, as this too is

    recorded in the Temple of Human Ancestry.

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    Well, I am slowly starting to get used to this idea. And if you are wondering

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    what the relationship is like between Earth and Sananda now...well, read

    this last part: Sananda has just left the building, according to the Great

    Central Sun.

    Now, why were the ascensions incomplete? Well, the cause of the

    incomplete ascension involves Sananda. Sananda was a limited

    soul from another creation imported by the Annanuki and the

    Orion scientists to hold a limited slave race with a limited genetic

    structure. Sananda wished also to ascend. However, Sananda

    lacked an understanding of ascension in this creation as alas, hewas from another creation. Sananda therefore piggybacked upon

    the ascension of other souls, and rode to the next dimension of

    awareness. However, such a riding to the next dimension also

    caused enough of a drag upon the field through which a portion

    of the ascending soul was also left behind at the moment that the

    ascension was launched.

    This is how incomplete ascensions occurred in human form,

    through the piggybacking of that which was not in alignment

    with the ascension. Furthermore, Sananda did not master the

    next dimension of thought-form, but simply inflated the slave

    thought-form that he knew to the next dimension, forcing the 5thdimension to fall under the dominion of the same limitation as

    your 3rd dimensional Earth.

    This is how Sananda grew to become a solar, universal and later

    cosmic level "God", through piggybacking upon ascending

    masters from Earth and other dimensions within human form.

    Earth, your solar system, along with your universe and cosmos

    have removed Sananda as of late, collapsing his dominion back

    to Earth where he originated, and he has been removed as of late

    as a global force and returned to his creation of origin. This is

    simply because Earth is complete with her karma with Sananda

    that this is so. http://www.ascendpress.org/articles/great-cen-

    sun/Sun6.html

    Now Sananda is out of our Creational field, it doesn't make sense that some

    people still claim to have contact with Sananda. How is that possible? Well,

    here's the answer from the Great Central Sun:

    ...Furthermore, many humans will still continue to see and hear

    such beings as Sananda or the Melchiezedek Order, as such

    beings continue to exist in the past. If one were to come fully into

    present time, one would cease to be able to experience such

    presences, as they no longer exist in present time. One must

    align with time upon Earth in order to stand in present time. One

    may align with earth's time through intention.http://www.ascendpress.org/articles/great-cen-sun/Sun6.html

    Half a year later we learn that it wasn't that easy to cast Sananda back to his

    creation of origin. You can read about the Seven Planes of the Kumaras. In

    January 2004 a special page was formed to deal with these kumaras. Here's

    something more about Sananda stemming from September 2002:

    "The collective consciousness of Sananda has danced with

    humanity for a long time and has been embedded in what Mila

    has called the Seven Planes of the Kumaras. In preparation for

    Earths entry into the fifth star gate and mastering Zero Point, the

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    planes of the Kumaras required removal from Earth. These are

    seven dense planes that hold the thought-form of greed, lust,

    pain, suffering, death, fear and judgment. Sananda was

    embedded in these planes as a collective consciousness and

    relied upon such planes to retain his global dominion. Although

    Earth had clearly transited her karma with Sananda six months

    ago, attempt after attempt to remove Sananda had failed, as he

    would manage to return to Earth each time he was cast off, and

    connect again to these 7 planes that he is associated with.

    In preparation for the realignment of time, these seven vibrations

    that surrounded Earth much like layers of an onion had to be

    transmuted. Over the past few months or so of Earths ascension,

    Earth has used heavier and heavier forms of ultra violet

    vibrations to bust up and remove these seven dense planes. The

    sun has augmented this shift with certain tones of creation sent

    Earths way through solar flares to assist in the busting up of the

    density necessary for Earth to enter the fifth star gate. In the

    process of this cleansing, seven additional planes were

    uncovered beneath the original seven that had been heretofore

    invisible to Earth and ascending human initiates alike.

    These seven planes include the Plane of Pleasure (related to the

    Plane of Pain); the Plane of Boredom (related to the Plane of

    Fear); the Plane of Humor (related to the Plane of Suffering); the

    Plane of Blind Trust (related to the Plane of Judgment); the Plane

    of Birth (related to the Plane of Death); the Plane of Poverty

    (related to the Plane of Greed); and the Plane of Rejection (related

    to the Plane of Lust). Ascending initiates may wish to retrieve

    parts of soul and fractured bits of self trapped upon these

    additional seven planes of reality that were buried underneath the

    seven others. (For more information on the planes of the

    Kumaras, please see "Transcending the Seven Kumaras andThe

    Seven Laws of Harmlessness)

    Mila and Oa along with those in their Group Mastery Program

    uncovered hundreds of thousands of soul schisms due to the

    manner in which these planes were hidden under veils of illusion

    that the collective consciousness of Sananda ran. As each strives

    to call back those pieces of self trapped upon such planes, one

    will come to greater wholeness within and foster a complete

    ascension rather than an incomplete one.

    The origins of Sananda have been discussed in prior Great

    Central Sun Transmissions. Sananda is not from your creation

    and cannot ascend therefore into the Great Central Sun. If he

    remained, it could cause the combustion of all of Earth due to his

    non-resonance. Sananda is so lost and fractured that he has been

    unable to understand or value why he must be removed, and has

    remained upon Earth continuing to attempt to manipulate Earth

    into an era of extinction. Much like Merdukwho was willing to

    sacrifice Earth to retain his dominion, Sananda would rather

    have Earth go extinct than ascend to retain his dominion. One

    could say that the entire dance of the Annanuki was a reflection

    of a non-physical battle between the the souls ensouling Earth

    and forces of the dark that had overrun her field in the

    unconscious of the Great Central Sun.

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    Forces such as Sananda however had a specific purpose within

    your creation, which was to pull apart creation unto extinction.

    Therefore one can acknowledge that Sananda along with the

    false intervention is fulfilling upon the job that they were

    assigned to do by the creator of your creation. This is another

    major lesson for Earth at this time, to acknowledge that the

    creator of your creation consumes and deliberately pulls apart

    creation in order to subsist. As painful as this may be to

    understand, it also explains why all within the unconscious sector

    of your creation likewise consumes; as one only emulatesultimately the creator of ones own creation.

    Earth is choosing at this time to no longer emulate the creator of

    your creation; but to emulate the Tao. The Tao holds no

    destructive thought-form, and as Earth continues to ascend into

    harmlessness and love, one day Earth will simply dissolve her

    physicality in full and return to the Tao in full. So will each

    species that so chooses to join Earth in her ascent return to the

    Tao upon a parallel path of awakening."

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    To learn more about the possible role Sananda has played in the division ofdreamtime planes, you can either read the original article (New Global

    Dreamtime Launched (2002)) or have a look at an article in the Grand Master

    section.

    Discussion

    This must be one of the most controversial pages on this site. One source

    claiming that many entities which are channeled through many other

    people, would actually use human beings to attain their own goals.

    I want to do some more research on Sananda and the Ascended Masters. Inoticed that I have been blinded by admiration for these beings, which

    could have stopped me from being critical. This of course is not the attitude

    of someone who claims to do channeling research: you have to be critical of

    everything, right?

    Here are a few questions pertaining to this issue, although it almost sounds

    blashpemous at times

    1. Is there any knowledge about the origin of these beings like Sananda,

    Kuthumi, Sanat Kumara, St. Germain?

    2. Are there any other channeled sources casting their doubts on the

    unconditional love by these beings?

    3. If there is any truth in these claims by the Great Central Sun, howwould you react to these beings?

    4. If Sananda would really be part of some 'false intervention' force

    what would his agenda look like? What are the differences between

    Sananda's words with a possible true ascension of Earth?

    5. The words by Sananda and the Ascended Masters all sound very

    loving and inspiring. How could they hide a hidden agenda behind

    these words?

    6. Are there remarkable differences between Sananda's words and

    those by sources like Kryon, Archangel Michael, The Group?

    7. Is there more to be known about the alleged electrical essence of

    Sananda and how does it relate to the magnetic grid around Earth?

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    8. Are there any funny things about Sananda and the Ascended

    Masters? Take for instance his alliance with Ashtar many years ago.

    Whatever happened to that?

    9. In one of the earlierarticles we can read that Mila herself would have

    been an aspect of Kuthumi at birth. How does that relate to the rest of

    all this? Would that aspect have left, later on in her life? Or is it still a

    part of her?

    If you have information which casts doubt on Sananda and the Ascended

    Masters please inform me. I want to rule out the possibility that we arebeing fooled by a bunch of beings who present themselves as representives

    of the Light, whereas they might just be the ones who try to obstruct the

    ascension of Earth by giving us false information.

    Well, this is it for now,

    Critically yours,

    UPDATE JULY 2007: Occasionally I receive emails from people who have had the ir

    share of exper iences with Sananda and company. On top of this page you can find a

    few of these experiences. Below are other pages that contain (parts of) these

    emails. I do not necessarily agree with the contents.

    Evil 'S' (July 2007)Tehemias (November 2004)

    Reader responses by Dawn (October 2003)

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