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【Samsung Electronics 4Q Earnings Call】
Robert M. Yi
Good morning.
This is Robert Yi from Investor Relations.
Before we announce our fourth quarter results, I would like to invite Mr. Roh
Hee-chan to share his thoughts as the new CFO and provide updates on the
progress of our shareholder value-enhancement programs.
Now, I'd like to turn it over to our CFO.
Hee-chan Roh
Thank you, Bob. This is Hee-chan Roh.
I am very honored and privileged to introduce myself as a new CFO of Samsung
Electronics to our shareholders and investor communities.
Samsung Electronics has remained focused on driving forward innovation and
establishing effective investment strategies amid the rapidly changing IT
industry. As a result, we secured global leaderships on many product categories
which enabled the company to generate solid results on a continuous basis and
build a sound and strong capital structure.
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We have also worked hard to enhancing shareholder value through our strong
shareholder return program and improved corporate governance.
As a CFO, I am committed to continuing our growth momentum, enhancing our
sound financial structure, and delivering higher value to our shareholders.
I will now update the progress on our shareholder return program.
We have completed the share repurchase program for 2017 that we
announced in our fourth quarter 2016 earnings call. During the program’s four
phases, we invested approximately 9.2 trillion won to repurchase and cancel
3.3 million common shares and 826,000 preferred shares.
As for 2017 dividend, as you know, we announced in last October 4.8 trillion
won annual dividend, which represented 20% increase over 2016. However,
under the dividend focused return strategy that we adopted for 2018~2020
shareholder return program, the Board decided to allocate all of the 50% of
Free Cash Flow to the 2017 annual dividend. This brought 2017 annual
dividends to 5.8 trillion won, 46% year-on-year increase.
Today, the Board approved a year-end dividend of 21,500 won per common
share and 21,550 won per preferred share.
With the approval of the above mentioned year-end dividend at the upcoming
meeting of shareholders, we will complete the three-year shareholder return
program covering through 2017.
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Last October, the Company announced a three-year shareholder return policy
covering 2018~2020, with aim to bring higher clarity and predictability of our
shareholder returns.
To recap, we will allocate at least 50% of free cash flow to shareholder returns
for the three-year period, and will pay out 9.6 trillion won in dividends each
year.
We will faithfully carry out these promises. We will also continuously invest in
key businesses and develop new growth drivers in order to continuously bring
strong results and enhance shareholder value.
As another step in enhancing shareholder value, the Board of Directors
approved 50 : 1 stock split today.
There have been numerous requests for a stock split based on an argument
that a high price of Samsung Electronics shares was a hindrance to certain
potential investors. The request increased in frequency as the price of our
shares rose significantly during 2017 based on our earnings growth and
enhanced shareholder return program.
The Board believes a stock split will make Samsung Electronics more accessible
to a wide range of investors and that they can share the significantly increased
dividends from 2018.
We also expect the split to add liquidity and marketability to our stock, which
could contribute to enhancing our corporate value in the long term.
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The Company’s management and Board of Directors will work tirelessly to
make the company more competitive and profitable. Last but not least, we
remain committed to increasing shareholder value through enhancing
shareholder returns.
Thank you.
Robert M. Yi
Well, thank you, Mr. Roh.
Now we will go over the fourth quarter results as scheduled.
We will now begin our earnings call for fourth quarter 2017.
With me, representing each of the business units are
Mr. Chun Se Won, Senior Vice President of the Memory Marketing Team,
Mr. Hur Guk, Vice President of the S.LSI Marketing Team,
Mr. Lee Sang Hyun, Vice President of the Foundry Marketing Team,
Mr. Choi Kwon Young, Vice President of Samsung Display,
Mr. Lee Kyeong Tae, Vice President of the IT and Mobile Business,
Mr. Cho Seong, Vice President of the Visual Display Business,
and Mr. Kim Sang Hyo, Kang Tae Gyu, Vice Presidents of the IR Group.
I would like to remind you that some of the statements we will be making
today are forward-looking, based on the environment as we currently see it,
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and all such statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that may
cause our actual results to be materially different from those expressed in
today’s discussion.
With that, I would now like to take you through our fourth quarter results.
In 2017, we achieved record-high earnings mainly on contributions from the
component business. Demand for high-value-added server memory stayed
strong, and our preemptive and strategic investments to prepare for new
technology and market growth started to contribute to the results.
In the fourth quarter, total revenue grew 24% Y-over-Y and slightly Q-over-Q to
66 trillion won, driven by robust memory market conditions and an increase in
shipments of Flexible OLED panels.
Gross profit increased approximately 7.8 trillion won Y-over-Y to 30.2 trillion
won, and gross margin improved 3.8%pts.
SG&A expenses grew 1.9 trillion won Y-over-Y due to the consolidation of
Harman’s results from March 2017 and an increase in R&D costs and
advertising and promotion expenses. However, as a percentage of revenue,
SG&A expenses declined 1.9%pts Y-over-Y.
Operating profit came in at 15.1 trillion won, an increase of 5.9 trillion won Y-
over-Y, driven by a significant increase in profitability at the semiconductor
business. Operating margin improved 5.7%pts Y-over-Y to 23%.
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The strengthening of the Korean won against major currencies limited our
earnings growth by reducing our operating profit by approximately 660 billion
won Q-over-Q, with the impact mostly on the component business. In addition,
special incentives distributed to employees of Semiconductor division during
the quarter lowered the 4Q profit.
I would like to briefly review operating profits by business units.
In the semiconductor business, earnings improved Y-over-Y as memory ASP
continued to rise and supply and demand conditions remained tight on the
back of strong demand that centered on server memory products.
Regarding the Display business, earnings increased in the OLED business due to
rising sales of flexible products for premium smartphones, but earnings
decreased in the LCD business as demand remained slow.
In the IM business, earnings in the mobile business rose slightly Y-over-Y as we
increased our flagship portion of smartphone sales. Total smartphone shipments,
however, edged down, the decrease mostly coming from the lineup optimization
of low-end models. In the Network business, customers’ LTE investments
concentrated in the first half, resulting in the Y-over-Y earnings declines seen in
the second half. As a result, total IM earnings decreased slightly.
In the CE business,
Despite rising sales of premium products such as ultra-large sized and QLED TVs,
earnings in the TV business edged down Y-over-Y due to a dip in market
demand. In the home appliance business, however, earnings grew on the back
of strong sales of premium products, including our Flex Wash line.
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Next, I would like to address our business outlook.
In the first quarter,
We expect to experience weak seasonal demand and an additional negative
impact on profitability related to exchange rate fluctuations.
Regarding the component business,
we expect demand for server DRAM to remain strong, mainly driven by data
center needs, but overall DRAM shipments to slow down due to the conversion
of line 11.
For the Display business,
under weak seasonality of the smartphone market, intensified competition
with LTPS LCD and a potential decline in panel demand could weigh on OLED
profitability.
In the set business,
we expect the mobile business to improve its earnings, led by an increase in
sales of flagship products with the launch of Galaxy S9.
The CE business will focus on securing profitability under weak seasonality.
In 2018, We expect our earnings growth momentum to continue, driven by the
component business, as the memory business is expected to deliver strong
results.
In the set business, we will strive to maintain solid earnings by focusing more
on securing profitability as opposed to volume growth through further
differentiating our premium products.
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In the mid to long term, we expect our component business to see demand
expand from new applications. For the set business, we also expect increasing
opportunities, mainly related to Software and Connectivity. We will address
this industry trend though implementing our strategy to connect devices and
services based on AI/IoT platforms.
In semiconductors, demand for high density memory for Cloud and Server as
well as for chipsets required for Automotive Electronics/AI are expected to rise.
We will reinforce our technology competitiveness based on cutting-edge
processes and TSV and other next-generation packaging based solutions.
The OLED business will strengthen its competitive edge in the premium
category with the release of foldable panels, and focus on expanding new
applications in areas such as IT/Automotive Electronics, capitalizing on our
technology and cost competitiveness.
Regarding the Mobile business, we will continue our efforts to differentiate
smartphones by adopting cutting-edge technologies, such as foldable OLED
panels.
At the same time, we will drive forward new businesses related to AI/IoT by
strengthening the ecosystem based on Bixby and building on our 5G technology.
The CE business will bolster our leadership in the TV market by applying new
technologies, such as 8K/Micro LED. Also, we will improve the connectivity and
usability of home appliances by expanding the application of Bixby.
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We will do our best to create new business opportunities through our
preemptive and strategic decisions based on the paradigm shift in the IT
industry as well as remaining focused on increasing competitiveness of our
existing businesses.
Now, I would like to comment on our capital expenditures.
Total capex for 2017 was 43.4 trillion won, 27.3 trillion won for Semi, and 13.5
trillion won for Display. The total was up significantly Y-over-Y as we invested in
the Pyeongtaek fab to expand capacity to address rising demand for V-NAND,
facilitate migration of DRAM processes, and build new wafer capacity to
mitigate the capacity loss resulting from the migration. We also increased our
10nm capacity to address demand for cutting-edge process technology for our
foundry business, and invested in expanding capacity for flexible OLED panels
to respond to growing demand.
Although our capital expenditure plan for 2018 has yet to be finalized, we
expect the total amount to decrease on a Y-over-Y basis.
Before the presentations of each business unit, I would like to share several
data points for each of the key business areas.
In the fourth quarter, our DRAM bit growth came in low single-digit and we saw
our ASP increase about 10%. In the first quarter, we expect the market DRAM
bit growth to decline low single-digit and our bit growth will come in similar to
that of the market. And for 2018, at this point, we expect the DRAM market bit
growth to be about 20% and our bit growth will also come in similar level.
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For NAND, in the Q4, our bit growth came in at about 10% growth and we saw
ASP increase of low single-digit. In Q1, we expect to see flat market bit growth
for NAND and also our bit growth will be similar level. And for 2018 for the year,
we expect the NAND market growth to be about 40%, again our bit growth will
be similar in line with the market.
For our Display, the revenue mix of the total Display, about high 70% was from
the OLED business. And for our Mobile business, in Q4 we shipped 86 million
handsets and 7 million tablets and the blended ASP for Q4 was high $210 range.
And the mix of the smartphone within the total handset was mid-80%.
And in Q1, we expect the total handsets to increase slightly quarter-on-quarter,
while tablet to decline. And for blended ASP in Q1, we expect to see an
increase. And the mix of the smartphone within our total handset in Q1 will
rise to high 80%.
And for our TV business, in Q4, our sale of the TV was mid 30% range, but in Q1
we expect to see 20% range decline in volume.
And now, I'll turn the conference call over to the gentlemen from our business
unit.
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Good morning.
This is Se-won Chun from the Memory Marketing Team.
In the fourth quarter, As the overall industry supply remained restricted Due to
increasing seasonal IT demand, A Friendly market environment continued.
For NAND, As peak Mobile seasonality and the trends for higher density Mobile
products continued And growth for server SSD also remained solid, Overall
NAND demand was very strong.
For the supply side, In spite of the industry’s mass production of 64 Layer
product ramping up, for certain customers and applications, Overall
qualification status varies according to each customer and application.
As a result, the increase in market supply has been limited.
We have strengthened profitability and garnered solid earnings growth by
timely responding to newly launched mobile models and higher density trends
while concentrating on value-added, high density SSD markets via stable 64
Layer 3D NAND ramp-up at Pyeongtaek Campus.
For DRAM, Due to peak-seasonality, Demand for all applications increased
compared with the previous quarter.
Demand from server remained solid, Due to cloud service expansion, build
demand for new datacenters and higher density trend for new CPU platform
launches.
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Demand from mobile also remained strong thanks to increasing set numbers
and content growth, mainly from new flagship model launches.
In addition, under continuous peak-seasonality, demand from PC and
consumer market also remained solid.
In spite of the seasonal decrease of demand from game console, Graphics
demand continued to be strong thanks to an increase of GDDR5 demand for
high-specification gaming PC and high-performance products for
cryptocurrency mining.
We continuously improved our earnings by satisfying demand for differentiated
products such as high-density server DRAM over 64GB and low-power
LPDDR4X, HBM through expanding supply of D1X nm products, and elastically
managing product mix.
Next, I will comment on the memory market outlook.
In the first quarter, Even though there might be low season effects, overall
supply and demand is expected to remain solid due to impact of continuously
strong demand mainly from server and industry supply constraints.
For NAND, In spite of off-seasonality, Server SSD demand of major Cloud
providers, especially large companies, continues to be strong, And high-density
trend mainly for flagship and high-end smartphone continues.
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Therefore, overall demand is expected to be maintained at the level of the
previous quarter.
As for supply, In spite of expansion of suppliers’ production of 64 layer, supply
growth is expected to be limited due to reduction of existing planar capacity.
While we will accelerate 64 Layer transition, We will also strengthen product
differentiation via competitiveness of our solution product based on 3D NAND.
For DRAM, Strong server demand including replacement demand from
datacenter, and PC demand for securing inventory will offset slow seasonality.
For mobile, Although set build will decrease under traditional low season effect,
demand decrease will be lower than that of previous year, thanks to not only
higher density trend mainly from High-end but also content growth from Low-
end.
For the consumer side, Strong demand mainly from STB for 4K UHD is
anticipated.
For graphics demand, Despite decreasing demand for Console due to low
seasonality, VGA card for gaming and cryptocurrency mining demand is
anticipated to be strong.
We will continue to deploy a flexible product mix strategy, according to
individual application market conditions.
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Moreover, we will concentrate on strengthening cost competitiveness by
continuously expanding 1xnm process transition.
But, In the first quarter, Slight shipments slowdown will be inevitable, due to
reduction in capacity caused by transition to CIS in Line 11 and reduction in the
number of days of operation.
Next, let me comment on 2018 market outlook and our strategy.
For NAND, As demand is expected to remain strong, Stable market conditions
will continue in 2018.
Thanks to increasing adoption of high-density and high-performance SSD for
datacenter and All Flash Array for Enterprise, SSD will replace HDD in more
wide areas.
In addition, High-performance and high-density trends for mobile NAND are
expected to continue, as needs for higher resolution become greater, and the
number of high capacity content, such as video clip, generated and shared in
mobile devices increase.
As for the supply side, due to expansion of suppliers’ production of 64 layer
supply shortage in the previous year will partially be moderated.
But we think it is more likely that supply expansion may be limited in short
term period due to customer’s qualification is needed mainly from Server.
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We are focusing on mass production of 3D-NAND mainly at Pyeongtaek
Campus. At the same time, We will focus on strengthening our technology
competitiveness and maximizing profitability via introducing and ramping up
the next generation product after 64 Layer product in right timing.
For DRAM, Due to expansion of cloud infrastructure and increase in demand
for real time data analysis using AI, Machine learning Demand for high-density
and high-performance product is increasing, As a result, overall demand is
expected to be solid, especially for server DRAM.
Mobile demand is also expected to grow as content per box increases due to
increasing S/W requirements from high performance mobile games and On-
device AI and to upgrades in H/W specification such as Dual Camera, 3D
sensors and Full Screen Display.
On the other hand, In spite of industries’ efforts to expand the supply,
Extending bit growth will be limited, due to increase in technological difficulty
and limited clean room for expansion.
Therefore, Solid supply and demand conditions are expected to continue.
We will maintain a “profit first rather than market share” policy while
strengthening cost competitiveness through expediting finer process
technology migration under 10nm at a proper time.
We will also strengthen our market leadership by focusing on sales of our high
density server DRAM and differentiated products such as HBM2, LPDDR4X, and
on development of uMCP solutions.
Thank you.
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Now moving onto the System LSI business.
In the fourth quarter of last year, even with the increase in the supply of OLED
DDIs for the premium phones, the earnings have stagnated as the sales of
mobile processors and image sensors decreased due to weak seasonality.
In the first quarter, we will improve the earnings by ramping up mass-
production of mobile processors for the premium phones and by expanding the
sales of highly valued 3-stack Fast Readout Sensors.
In 2018, as many smartphone vendors are expected to increase the adoption of
dual camera as well as 3-stack FRS sensors, the demand for image sensors are
expected to grow accordingly. In addition, we will continue to post strong
earnings through sustained growth of mobile processor sales.
Furthermore, by utilizing our technological leadership in mobile devices, we
will expand our solution offerings to various applications including IoT, VR, and
automotive and collaborate closely with our customers and eco-system
partners.
Now moving on to the Foundry business.
In the fourth quarter, the earnings decreased due to weak seasonality which
resulted in a slowdown of major customers’ sales.
However, the sales in China have increased significantly as we’ve secured
diverse Chinese customers to establish the milestone for a long-term growth.
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In the first quarter, the earnings are expected to increase with a ramp up of
2nd generation 10-nano process products for this year’s flagship smartphones,
and growing demands for cryptocurrency mining chips.
In 2018, we will continue to provide derivative processes, including 8 and 11-
nano, to satisfy customers’ needs and lead the technological process leadership
with a risk production of 7-nano.
In addition, we will actively address the market demand by increasing the mass
production capability through ramping up the new S3 and S4-line for various
products including mobile processors and image sensors.
Lastly, we will lay the foundations for mid to long-term growth by securing
orders of diverse applications including automotive, network, HPC and VR
Thank you.
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Good Morning.
This is Kwon-young Choi from the planning department of Samsung Display.
During the 4th Quarter, total earnings for the Display business grew Q-over-Q,
driven by an increase in supply of OLED panels and despite a decrease in
revenue of LCD panels due to lower ASPs.
For the OLED business, our 4th Quarter earnings improved Q-over-Q on
increased shipments of OLED panels for flagship smartphone.
On the other hand, earnings for the LCD business, declined Q-over-Q in the 4th
Quarter, due to a decrease in shipments alongside continued ASPs declines of
LCD panels under weak seasonality.
Looking ahead to the 1st Quarter of 2018, we are concerned about a decline in
profitability under weak seasonality of smartphone industry, as well as
intensified competition with LTPS LCD and slowdown demand for OLED panels.
Under these circumstances, we plan to focus on securing profitability by
increasing our flagship product portion of sales, expanding our customer base,
as well as enhancing productivity of flexible OLED panels.
For the LCD business in the 1st Quarter, while we are concerned about a
decline in demand under weak seasonality, we expect utilization to be stable
due to increased demand for large-sized and high-resolution TVs led by a major
sporting event in the 1st half.
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In response to these market conditions, we will try to improve profitability by
focusing on reducing costs, increasing yield, and expanding our value-added
portion of products such as UHD, large-sized, and Quantum Dot products.
Now I would like to present our outlook for the display market and core
strategies for 2018.
For the OLED business, we expect OLED to become a mainstream panel in the
smartphone industry, and in particular, to strengthen its market position in the
high-end product category.
Under these circumstances, we will focus on increasing market share through
actively addressing customers' demand with continued efforts to strengthen
technological differentiation from LTPS LCD.
At the same time, we will strive to secure new growth engines by reinforcing
our competencies in new applications.
For the LCD business, we are concerned about increasing uncertainties caused
by both intensified competition in the industry and capacity expansions by
Chinese manufacturers.
In preparation for such market conditions, we will make every effort to meet
the needs of large-size and high-resolution TV markets as well as to reinforce
our market leadership by offering differentiated products based on advanced
technology.
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At the same time, we will strive to improve the fundamentals of the display
division, not just through quantitative growth, but also based on qualitative
improvements, by reinforcing strategic partnerships with major customers and
expanding our value-added portion of products.
Thank you.
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Good morning everyone.
I am Kyeong-tae Lee from the Mobile Communications Business.
I would like to present our fourth quarter results and share our outlook for the
IM Division.
In the fourth quarter, demand for smartphones and tablets increased QoQ
under year-end seasonality.
Our smartphone shipments decreased QoQ, mainly due to the base effect of
strong sales of the Galaxy J series in the previous quarter.
Conversely, the portion of premium smartphones increased due to solid sales
of flagship models such as the Galaxy S8 and Note 8.
Operating profit, however, declined QoQ, as marketing costs increased under
strong seasonality.
As for the Networks Business, our revenue and profit in second half of 2017
decreased, as LTE investments from our major overseas partners conducted in
the first half.
Next, I will share our outlook for the first quarter of 2018.
In the first quarter, we expect demand for smartphone and tablets to decrease
QoQ due to typical seasonality.
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We will minimize the impact of off-peak season and strengthen our premium
leadership with the sales of the newly launched Galaxy A8 and A8+ and the
introduction of the Galaxy S9.
The newly launched Galaxy A8 and A8 + were well received by our millennial
customers for providing a rich multimedia experience including front dual
cameras.
We will ensure that we translate the positive response into a solid business
performance.
The new galaxy S9 will be released at MWC next month, and we will strive to
maximize initial launch effects.
Through these efforts, we expect our smartphone shipments to increase slightly
QoQ, and both sales and operating profit to increase due to the rise in ASP.
As for the Networks Business, we will strengthen our business fundamentals by
supplying LTE base stations mainly to the US.
Now, let me move on to our outlook for 2018.
We expect demand for smartphones to continue to grow, backed by solid
replacement demand for premium models.
Meanwhile, our business is likely to face growing challenges due to rising
uncertainty in the global business environment, severe competition, and
material cost burden.
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We will increase the revenue contribution of premium smartphones by
launching enhanced flagship models and increasing long-tail sales of existing
flagship models.
To expand the sales of premium smartphones, we will strengthen our product
competitiveness by differentiating our core features and services, such as the
camera and Bixby, and reinforce the sell-out programs and experiential stores.
And we will continue to optimize the low-end to mid-range smartphone lineup
and improve productivity also.
By doing so, we will achieve qualitative growth of our smartphone business.
For the Network business, we will expand the supply of 5G-ready network
solutions into the major market including South Korea, the US, and Japan.
Lastly, I would like to share our mid-to long-term outlook.
To strengthen our leadership in the premium market, we will continue to
pursue meaningful innovation by utilizing next generation parts and new
technologies based on our competencies and experience in the mobile
business.
Furthermore, we will secure competencies in new businesses to ensure
sustainable growth.
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We have well used periods of technological transitions, which include network
evolutions and the products changes from feature phones to smartphones, as
opportunities to grow.
In response to 5G era, which will drive future changes, we will lead world's first
commercialization of 5G and take a global leadership position.
Moreover, we will continue to foster our services and new businesses, such as
Bixby and IoT, based on our mid-to long-term roadmap.
And we will provide Multi-Device Experiences under 'One Samsung' strategy so
that consumers can use our various devices more easily and conveniently.
Thank you.
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Good Morning,
I am Seong-hyuk Cho, Vice President of Visual Display Sales and Marketing
Team at Samsung Electronics.
Let me start with the current market conditions and our results for 2017 Q4.
The TV market in Q4 has grown by double-digits from last quarter with the
year-end holiday season.
However, the market is projected to decrease YoY because of declining demand
in North America, China and the Middle East.
Samsung’s result was slightly down YoY due to sales decrease from defocusing
on entry lineup and declining selling price from heavy competition.
However, our performance has improved from last quarter by driving sales of
premium products during the year-end holiday season.
Samsung has further solidified leadership in the premium market by expanding
the QLED and ultra-large screen TV sales, and achieved market share growth in
the premium market segment.
The Digital Appliances market in 2017 Q4 has shown a moderate growth from
last year due to the continued growth of the North American market and the
recovery of European/CIS economies.
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We continued to show sales growth YoY and have achieved high sales in
advanced markets like North America and Europe.
We especially had strong sales in premium products like the Flex Wash and the
Dual Cook oven.
However, our results show limited improvement because of an increase in raw
material costs and investments in the North American B2B market.
Next, I will share the market prospects for the first quarter and then the whole
year of 2018.
For Q1, the TV market demand is projected to decrease both YoY and QoQ
because of a slow season following the year-end holiday season and a declining
market demand.
Samsung will further establish premium leadership in the TV market by
reforming our sales structure, with an emphasis on high-value products like the
ultra-large screen and QLED TV.
We will also launch our new models earlier in the first quarter to concentrate
on improving our results.
For the Digital Appliances business, Samsung will increase growth by
continuing to expand the premium lineup, which includes the Family Hub 3.0
refrigerator and the QuickDrive washing machine, and reinforcing our global
marketing activities for 2018 Q1.
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As for the 2018 TV market, the ultra-large screen and premium markets are
expected to continue growing with momentum created from sports events
such as The World Cup and Winter Olympic Games.
As the premium market continues to rise, Samsung will strengthen its new
lineup, which includes ultra-large screen, QLED as well as 8K TV, and expand
marketing activities to achieve great results.
Samsung TV will provide new experiences and values by introducing Bixby and
SmartThings, which will further enhance connectivity between Samsung
products and offer seamless user experiences.
With these efforts, we will continue to be at the forefront of product
innovation as the market leader and lay a foundation for sustained growth.
As for the Digital Appliances business, Samsung will further strengthen the B2B
business which includes built-in home appliances and system air conditioners.
We will expand distribution channels, including online channels, and continue
to provide the future growth engine.
Thank you
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Q&A
Operator
Now Q&A session will begin.
The first question will be presented by Mr. Jong-Woo Yoo from Korea
Investment & Securities. Please go ahead sir.
<Q - Jong-Woo Yoo>: I have two questions. The first question is a
Semiconductor question about NAND demand.
Today during the presentation, it sounded like you have a very positive outlook
on the NAND demand. But I think overall, the market has some concerns not
only about the supply and demand situation, but also the impact that may
have on further price erosions.
Also, can you give us a bit more detail of the grounds for your positive view for
NAND demand this year, especially what is your outlook on supply and demand,
and what do you think would be the pricing-related impact of that?
Second question is about the stock split that you've announced today, the 50:1
stock split. Can you give us details of when that will happen and, for example,
when will the stock first trade after being split 50:1?
<A>: First to answer your question about the NAND demand, or supply
situation. First of all, the first half of 2018 is a seasonally weak or low period.
And therefore, the sound demand and supply situation may temporarily ease
during the first half. But we also think that there is a lot of demand for NAND,
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especially from the mid to low-end mobile side and also other applications that
are more price sensitive or price elastic and that will drive up demand for
NAND as prices may ease. And therefore, for the full year, we're expecting the
demand and supply situation to remain sound.
Also there are some concerns that there will be more supply as other
companies ramp up their 64-layer 3D NAND. But number one, it will take some
time for them to qualify, for example, to servers and other applications and
also the increase in supply may not happen immediately.
About the price trends, because price is determined by the market supply and
demand situation, it's difficult for us to give you an outlook on where prices
would be in the future. But given the fact that there is content increase in
smartphones and also in data centers as the amount of data that has to be
processed increases significantly, there will be more SSD adoption. And
therefore, given all of this, we expect the demand side fundamentals to remain
strong.
<A>: To take your second question about the scheduling and the timeline for
the stock split. Well, the first procedure would be the General Meeting of
Shareholders, which currently is scheduled for March 23. So, the Articles of
Incorporation, a change of the Articles of Incorporation would have to be
approved at our General Meeting of Shareholders.
So that's one step. And then following, there will be a swap or an exchange of
old stock with the new split stock. And so, according to that timeline, we're
expecting that perhaps the split stocks would start trading around mid-May.
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Operator
The next questions will be presented by Mr. Peter Lee from Citigroup. Please go
ahead, sir.
<Q - Peter Lee>: I have a question on Semiconductors, but this time it's on
DRAM. On DRAM, there's also concern in the market of especially demand
slowdown from smartphones. Can you give us the demand outlook and overall
demand and supply outlook for 2018?
<A>: Regarding the DRAM, the DRAM demand will be – the strong driver of
DRAM demand will remain servers, especially as data center infrastructures
continue to expand, also the rollout of the new CPUs, that's also driving more
demand for DRAM because of other applications such as machine learning,
that is all driving demand for DRAM, especially from the server side.
On the mobile side, there was some burden of the BOM side, the material cost
side, especially in the mass segment of mobiles. But as more and more mobile
phones adopt dual cameras and full screens, this would require more content.
Also, especially the high-performance mobile games that are becoming more
popular will also require more content, as well as on-device AI. These will all
increase the content on mobile phones which will keep demand from mobiles,
applications strong as well. And even though the industry has been working
very hard to increase supply, there are difficulties because of the 10-nano class
technology being very difficult. Also there are limits in terms of the cleanrooms
that are available.
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And therefore, given all of these factors on the demand and supply side, we
expect that for DRAM full year, the demand and supply situation will remain
sound.
Operator
The next questions will be presented by Mr. JJ Park from JP Morgan. Please go
ahead, sir.
<Q - JJ Park>: I have two questions. The first question is on the Mobile side.
The component prices have remained strong since last year and that has
increased the BoM cost burden on smartphones. And so, my number one
question is, what is your plans of maintaining the profitability of the overall IM
division? Also, is there a room for example, increasing the prices of your
handsets? And recently in China, it seems Chinese company has been
increasing quite a lot of market share. Can you share with us your plans of how
to respond to this?
<A>: This year, while continuing to expand sales of our premium products, we
are also preparing various initiatives on the mass segment side.
First of all, we will improve the overall product mix by actively driving upsell
from feature phones to smartphones and from entry level to mid-end
segments. Through this, we anticipate the effect of qualitative growth resulting
in ASP increase. Also, we will roll out useful functions that are already proven
on flagship models to mass segments to enhance the competitiveness of our
mass products.
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Also, we will continue the efforts for profitability such as streamlining the
product lineup, increasing common parts and also enhancing productivity.
Regarding India, we have quite a wide lineup. And of this lineup, we will pick
the lineup that is optimized towards the Indian market. Also, while maintaining
the premium brand leadership through collaboration with operators as well as
distribution, we will also have very targeted customer segment marketing and
also focus on providing more experienced type retail species to Indian
consumers so that we're able to gain market share as well as profitability.
<Q - JJ Park>: The second question to the DP side, is actually connected. Given
the high BOM cost burden on handset makers, some are saying that this has
resulted in lower-than-expected penetration of OLED panels on handsets. In
order to increase the OLED panel adoption on smartphones, do you have plans
for example adjusting the prices for weather rigid or flexible OLEDs?
<A>: Regarding the OLED panels, there has been competition always from the
LTPS LCD side. But compared to the LTPS LCD, OLED has the advantages in
terms of resolution, color, real black as well as in terms of power consumption.
And therefore, given the inherent advantages of the OLED panel, we believe
that we will be able to continue penetration and market share. In order to
provide more cost competitiveness, we'll continue to enhance our operational
efficiency as well as our cost saving efforts, also we will continue to drive our
efforts to add new customers not only in China, but also in other parts of the
world so that overall our customer portfolio becomes more diverse.
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Operator
The next question will be presented by Mr. Kim Dong-Won from KB Securities.
Please go ahead, sir.
<Q - Dong-Won Kim>: I have two questions. The first question is to the DP side.
Due to the lower-than-expected demand for the recent flagship launch by the
North American strategic customer, market is expecting your flexible OLED
shipment in the first half to decrease. What is your strategy in responding to
this decrease in shipment?
Second question is to the CE side, the TV business, it seems especially in the
high-end TV segment, OLED TVs are increasing market share faster than
expected. So, we would like to ask what is your plans of responding and
differentiating to OLED TVs using your QLED.
<A>: Regarding your first question, I'm sure you will understand it's difficult for
us to mention specifically to a customer. But as we mentioned before in the
previous Q&A session, we have been increasing and adding new customers not
only in China but in other parts of the world, in order to secure a stable and
diversified customer portfolio. And we believe that with that portfolio, our
overall business structure will not be impacted by temporary changes in
demand.
So, in addition, when it comes to the OLED business rather than temporary
increase or decrease of demand, what's important is the fact that OLED has
become the mainstream display especially it is the display that defines high-
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end smartphones, and therefore it will continue to be used on the high-end
segment.
We were the first to develop the flexible OLED, and we are following this
output continuous technology development. We will not only continue to
launch differentiating products, but also uses to pioneer new applications for
OLEDs.
Also internally, we're continuing our focus on improving our yield as well as
productivity. And based on this operational efficiency, we will respond to
competitors as well as the uncertainties in the market situation.
And so, by efficiently operating our lines, we will gain not only better
productivity but also profitability.
Regarding your second question, the QLED TV was launched in first quarter of
2017. And since its launch, it has been gaining not only wide recognition
globally, but also its sales volume has been increasing quite rapidly. Based on
this, we have been able to not only maintain but strengthen our leadership in
the premium TV segment. The industry also has various initiatives to further
rollout and increase the adoption of QLED TVs.
For example, in the first half of last year, we had the QLED forum in China,
which was attended not only by us but TLC, Hisense, other TV companies as
well as members of the academia and retailers also participated in the QLED
forum in China in order to spread more adoption of QLED TVs. This year our
focus will be on expanding the QLED TV lineup. We will have a stronger lineup.
Also we will focus on more active marketing globally, in order to increase the
sales of QLED TV.
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Operator
The next question will be presented by Mr. Hwang Min-Seong from Samsung
Securities. Please go ahead, sir.
<Q - Min-Seong Hwang>: I have two questions. First question is about the AI
chip. You've mentioned of expanding the AI chip. In that context, what is your
strategy going forward for the Exynos AP for AI as well as machine learning?
Second question is about the DRAM business. In the previous presentation, you
provided your DRAM bit growth for 2018 to be 20% growth that being market
level, which I notice is a bit higher than the previous forecast that you
mentioned which used to be in the high-teens. And so, I'm wondering whether
this counts in some of the capacity that you're seeing visibly this year. So, for
example, at the end of 2018 that's this year, what is the output that you're
expecting from Pyeongtaek that went into this 20% bit growth for 2018?
I also heard that the wafers are starting to go in for the 1Y process. How much
of an output are you expecting from that to that went into the 20% bit growth
projection?
<A>: Regarding the AI, currently what is required by these AI applications
especially on the mobile and deep learning side, it's still very initial, face
recognition, object recognition or some intelligent image processing is the
current requirements that will stay this year. But I think from next year, actually
there will be demand for high-performance AI technology, not only on the
mobile but also in consumer as well as automotive applications.
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So, the System LSI division has been preparing for this market environment. So,
this year, we will be launching an Exynos processor that is capable of face
recognition and intelligent image processing. And further down the road, we'll
prepare this in an NPU, a neural processing unit, form that would support for
example automotive consumer as well as mobile applications.
Also in terms of our strategy, we'll prepare actually a very wide SoC lineup to
respond not only to the premium but also to the mass segment with our
intelligent Exynos processors.
Regarding the second question about the DRAM, as we mentioned during the
presentation as well as the Q&A, our outlook on DRAM demand is that it will
remain sound. So, even though there was some capacity loss in the process of
converting Line 11 to CIS, we are continuing for example to increase the yield
on our 1X-nano processors. And regarding Pyeongtaek capacity, as we have
previously mentioned, we will invest flexibly into the Pyeongtaek capacity in
order to meet the bit demand depending on the market situation.
Regarding 1Y-nano, as we mentioned, we have succeeded in mass production
in November last year, in 2017. And currently, we're ramping up with the target
of doing a bit crossover with 1X-nano in 2019. Regarding capacity, we will
manage the capacity depending on the market situation as well as the overall
situation in the 10-nano class technology.
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Operator
The next question will be presented by Mr. Nicolas Gaudois from UBS.
Please go ahead, sir.
<Q - Nicolas J. Gaudois>: Yes. Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my
questions. The first question relates to DRAM, and once again you remain
positive outlook for server DRAM in 2018. So, maybe if you could help us a little
bit estimating what was eventually a bit demand growth in server DRAM for
the market in 2017. What is your expectation for 2018 and how you see the
segmentation between data center and traditional enterprise in this segment
evolving with, on top of that, what are the typical differences in DRAM
densities you observe currently between these two segments?
And the second question relates to RGB OLED. So, obviously, you alluded to
some uncertainty on demand that you will effectively address for your
customer mix. In the context of your comments earlier on foldable products
coming in, what are your plans regarding the A5 fab and is it more likely than
not that would effectively deploy capacity there in 2019? Thank you.
<A>: Regarding your first question about the server DRAM bit growth, in 2017
we estimate that the server DRAM bit growth was around 30% to 40%. As you
know, in servers, memory is a very essential component in order to provide
high quality service. And therefore, compared to other applications in the
server segment, price elasticity is relatively low. Also, given the fact that high-
density memory is critical to provide service for servers, we expect the demand
for DRAM on the server segment to remain strong.
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Also, some of the dot-com companies that used to operate their own servers
have converted to the public cloud. And this has resulted in demand for
traditional servers decreasing, but actually this isn't a decrease in itself, but
actually a shift of demand from traditional servers to a public cloud supporting
servers. Also, this has left traditional server makers to actually focus more on
the very high end, the high capacity servers such as hyper converged servers,
and this is driving increase in content for both the data center as well as
traditional servers.
Regarding the foldable OLED question, our position has always been to prepare
our technologies to meet the customer demand when ready. And therefore, we
have continued our R&D and development efforts regarding foldable display
solutions. Our focus is on delivering the level of execution and the
completeness that would satisfy the market and also the consumers' level of
expectation. And therefore, currently, we are in close collaboration with our
strategic customers in order to deliver the solution that will meet the
consumers' as well as market demand.
Regarding the new fab, we have actually started to do the preparation work,
the groundwork for the new fab on a preemptive basis to prepare for uncertain
market situation as well as expected new demand. However, we have just
started to do the preparations. And so, the exact timing of when it would
operate or how much capacity will be delivered from the new fab has not yet
been decided.
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Operator
The next questions will be presented by Mr. SK Kim from Daiwa Capital Markets.
Please go ahead, sir.
<Q - SK Kim>: I have two questions for the IM business. First of all is, I think
one of the concerns in the market is that especially as the smartphones
become more and more high specification, especially around the flagship, the
high-end but at the same time, prices for components, MLCCs as well as
memory prices, are going up. So, this would inevitably increase prices of
smartphones, which may result in decrease of demand. That's the scenario
that the market is concerned of. So, I'm wondering how you are planning to
respond to this series of events.
The second question is actually linked to the OLED Q&A that we had from the
DP side, as the OLED mentioned, OLED display is becoming a mainstream
display on the high-end handsets. And more and more Samsung's competitors
are starting to use OLED on their handsets, which is diminishing the
differentiating power that you used to have by having OLED displays on your
handsets. So, I'm wondering how you plan to continue to differentiate even
though OLEDs are becoming more mainstream in the high-end segment.
<A>: Regarding your first question about the high-end smartphone segment,
the high-end smartphone segment is expected to continue growth, especially
driven by replacement demand from mid-high segment users. However, it
appears that there is some consumer resistance for smartphones that are
above the $1,000 mark. And therefore, we need to prepare for that. We will
focus on expanding the premium product sales by launching new and
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differentiated flagship models, while at the same time maintaining the long-tail
sales of existing flagship models. We will also support this with stronger sell-up
programs, for example, in collaboration with operators or distribution, and
conduct active marketing activities, especially around experience spaces.
Regarding your second question of how we will respond to competitors
adopting OLEDs, well, in terms of OLED display itself already from several years
ago, we have been leading the market by offering differentiated and well
executed designs using OLEDs starting from the Edge to the Infinity Display
based on our flexible OLED technology and experience. So that's one strength.
On top of that, we offer new and rich experiences through useful services such
as Samsung Pay or Samsung Pass, Bixby, as well as companion devices such as
the Gear S or Gear VR and IconX, that is another point of differentiation.
In the future, we will strengthen our leadership in the market by providing
differentiated services such as AI, IoT, Health while continuing product
innovation based on our next-generation components and new technologies.
Given the limited amount of time, we will take questions from two more
attendance before closing the session.
Operator
The next questions will be presented by CW Chung from Nomura Securities.
Please go ahead, sir.
<Q - CW Chung>: It seems that overall because the industry is now in the
territory of very high and sophisticated technologies, it's becoming more and
more difficult to achieve cost savings. I'm wondering how Samsung Electronics
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plans to respond to the situation? And also, do you think the next-generation
memory could be a solution to this issue? And in that context, could you give
us an update on your development efforts on the next-generation memory?
<A>: We have already achieved differentiating advantages in terms of
productivity and cost by preemptively investing large scale strategic in our
technology. We will continue to do this. So, leveraging our process technology
as well as 3D NAND technology, we will continue to achieve cost as well as
productivity advantages compared to the competition.
Also, we will continue this leadership to go further in the 10-nano class DRAM
as well as higher stack 3D NAND developments so that we are able to maintain
our productivity as well as cost advantages going forward.
Regarding the next-generation memory, we have been working on next-
generation memory for quite a long time. We have been looking into various
different options. We have been talking to customers as well as other industry
partners on next-generation memory solutions. But given the fact that the
existing memory actually has additional room for scaling and additional room
for cost reduction, we think that for the time being, next-generation memory
solutions will only remain in the niche market.
Operator
The last question will be presented by Ms. Claire Kyung Min Kim from Daishin
Securities. Please go ahead, ma'am.
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<Q - Claire Kyung Min Kim>: I have two questions. The first question is for the
Foundry business. It seems that there has been demand from the
cryptocurrency mining side especially, so I would like to ask what was the
impact on especially the cutting-edge process side of your Foundry business.
And going forward, what is your outlook on the demand being generated from
cryptocurrency mining?
Second question is to the DP side. We have been hearing that a Korean
competitor as well as a Chinese company is preparing to go mass production
with their flexible OLED. And so, how will you respond to the entrants of these
new competitors?
<A>: Regarding your first question, there has actually been an explosive growth
in cryptocurrency related demand and that has resulted in our orders also
increasing significantly from such cryptocurrency mining related customers.
Especially, it seems our 14-nano and 10-nano processes not only have the right
to process, but also the design infrastructure needed to support their
cryptocurrency applications. And what is more encouraging is that actually our
process technology has proven to have an advantage in serving the
cryptocurrency demand.
In addition to the 14-nano and 10-nano technologies, we're also receiving a lot
of inquiries regarding new note such as 8-nano from such customers. And we
believe that that our Foundry customers will be increasing their market share
in the cryptocurrency segment. In addition to cryptocurrency, we expect our
supplies to penetrate into further applications.
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And driven by this, we expect that the Foundry business will achieve a sound
growth and a very strong number two position.
Regarding your second question about the display and how we plan to respond
to the new competitors in the OLED market. We believe that the focus lies in
the fact that we have accumulated technology leadership as well as business
leadership in the mid-to-small sized OLED segment. We will leverage that. Also,
we think the key lies in number one gaining the technology differentiation, so
we will continue to innovate our technologies and use that innovative
technology to maintain our market leadership, but also focus on improving our
yield as well as productivity and to widen the gap in terms of productivity
versus the new entrants.
Also, we will focus on developing new applications and also widening our scope
of business in order to make our customer portfolio stronger as well as our
business structure stronger and resilient. Also, we will consider how the market
dynamic changes and continue to communicate with our strategic customer to
meet the demand that unfolds in the market.
Robert M. Yi
Thank you very much. And that ends the conference call for this quarter.