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Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential Andrea Giugno Arnold Sommerfeld Center, Ludwig Maximilians Universität, Theresienstraße 37, 80333, Munich in collaboration with R.Casadio, A.Giusti and M.Lenzi 3 rd Karl Schwarzschild Meeting, “Gravity and the Gauge/Gravity duality” Frankfurt am Main, July 27, 2017 Based on arXiv:1702.05918, to appear in PRD

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Page 1: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential

Andrea Giugno

Arnold Sommerfeld Center, Ludwig Maximilians Universität, Theresienstraße 37, 80333, Munich

in collaboration with R.Casadio, A.Giusti and M.Lenzi

3rd Karl Schwarzschild Meeting, “Gravity and the Gauge/Gravity duality”

Frankfurt am Main, July 27, 2017

Based on arXiv:1702.05918, to appear in PRD

Page 2: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Motivation: Black Holes & the road to QG

Matter matters! (Baryons & gravitons)

Classical & Quantum corrections to the Newtonian potential

Outlook

Outline of the talk

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Motivation: Black Holes & the road to QG

Page 4: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Motivation: Black Holes & the road to QG

Horizon

Staticity

Trapped surface

gij ∇ ir ∇ j r=0

r=RH=2GN M (t , r)

Misner-Sharp mass

Strong gravity scale

Page 5: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Motivation: Black Holes & the road to QG

Horizon

Staticity

Trapped surface

gij ∇ ir ∇ j r=0

r=RH=2GN M (t , r)

Misner-Sharp mass

… but nature is quantum!!!

Δ x Δ p≥ℏ

Compton wavelength

Strong gravity scale

λM=ℏ

M

Q(FT) scale

Page 6: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Motivation: Black Holes & the road to QG

Horizon

Staticity

Trapped surface

gij ∇ ir ∇ j r=0

r=RH=2GN M (t , r)

… but nature is quantum!!!

Δ x Δ p≥ℏ

Compton wavelength

Strong gravity scale

λM=ℏ

M

Q(FT) scale

GN M≥ℏ

M

QUANTUM BLACK HOLES

M≥mPℏ=lPmP

GN=lPmP

Page 7: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Motivation: Black Holes & the road to QG

Horizon

Staticity

Trapped surface

gij ∇ ir ∇ j r=0

r=RH=2GN M (t , r)

… but nature is quantum!!!

Δ x Δ p≥ℏ

Compton wavelength

Strong gravity scale

λM=ℏ

M

Q(FT) scale

GN M≥ℏ

M

QUANTUM BLACK HOLES

N m≥mPℏ=lPmP

GN=lPmP

Counterproposal

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N>>1

Hawking quantum

BH = self-sustained BEC of gravitons

Hawking evaporation:

“marginally bound”

Matter matters! (Baryons & gravitons)R.Casadio, A.G. and A.Giusti, PLB 763 (2016) 337

Effective mass

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Star

Black Hole

Matter matters! (Baryons & gravitons)

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kinetic pressure

Star

Black Hole

GR correction!

Coherent state

Newton

“Energy balance’’:

“marginal bound” recovered!

Matter matters! (Baryons & gravitons)

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From area to distance:

Radial geodesic fall:

Static proper time:

( … irrelevant)

Post-Newtonian effective theoryGR recap

Schwarzschild

Page 12: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Conditions:Weak field Static non-relativistic motion

From area to distance:

Radial geodesic fall:

Static proper time:

Standard post-Newtonian from isotropic metric

( … irrelevant)

Post-Newtonian effective theoryGR recap

Schwarzschild

Watch out!Different parametrisations of t...but same functional form

Page 13: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Einstein-Hilbert action:

1) Weak field:

2) Static non-relativistic motion:

3) De Donder gauge:

4) Fierz-Pauli and some guessing …

Post-Newtonian effective theory

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Einstein-Hilbert action:

1) Weak field:

2) Static non-relativistic motion:

3) De Donder gauge:

Effective scalar action:

A) time measure

B) Newtonian

C) Post-Newtonian

4) Fierz-Pauli and some guessing …

Post-Newtonian effective theory

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Newtonian potential:

Field equation:

Purely Newtonian potential energyPotential energy density

(aka static current) :

Gravitational potential self-energy

Post-Newtonian effective theory

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Field equation:

Potential energies

Post-Newtonian effective theory

Separate & solve:

Page 17: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Classical solutions

(Rough) Example: Point-like source

(0 + 1) potential:

Arbitrary!(0 + 1) energies:

Post-Newtonian effective theory

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Classical solutions

(Rough) Example: Point-like source

(0 + 1) potential:

Arbitrary!(0 + 1) energies:

Post-Newtonian too large!

NO maximal packing for point source!

Post-Newtonian effective theory

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Post-Newtonian effective theory

More realistic case: homogeneous star

(0 + 1) energy:

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Post-Newtonian effective theory

More realistic case: homogeneous star

(0 + 1) potential(0 + 1) energy:

“marginally bound” for

Newtonian

The result holds also for other kindsof sources (e.g. Gaussian, etc.)

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Quantum toy model: massless scalar field

Newtonian ground state:

Field equation:

Commutators:

Vacuum:

Normalisation:

Post-Newtonian effective theory

Coherent!

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Post-Newtonian effective theoryNormalisation ~ occupation number

Typically:

UV cut-off

IR cut-off

Size of static field

Source size

Dynamics…

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Post-Newtonian corrections:

Vacuum

New coherent state:

One-mode occupation:

Typically:

PLB 763 (2016) 337

OK for large source!

Post-Newtonian effective theory

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Post-Newtonian corrections:

Vacuum

New coherent state:

One-mode occupation:

Typically:

PLB 763 (2016) 337

OK for large source!

For black hole formation?

Post-Newtonian effective theory

Page 25: Quantum corpuscular corrections to the Newtonian potential€¦ · Static non-relativistic motion From area to distance: Radial geodesic fall: Static proper time: Standard post-Newtonian

Outlook

Quantum post-Newtonian corrections: Phenomenological consequences for (neutron) stars Phenomenological consequences for BH formation

Thermal fluctuations: Quantum matter effects Hawking radiation

Quantum resolution of inner BH structure

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Thank you!