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:4 Z' Fhf ycu `v`r s`` ycur mnhafr`g3
:: J' Gc! H fhf gct'
:2 Z' Vc tnhs fjy! njv` ycu s``g ycur mnhafr`g3
:= J' Gc! H njv` gct'
:6 Z' Njv` ycu icg` bjmk tc mcurt3
:0 J' X`s'
:5 Z' Njv` ycu r`hgstjt`f pjr`gtja rhints //
:9 J' X`s'
:> Z' // ecr ycurs`ae3
:8 OR' O@]@R@JP< Cbl`mthcg' A`jfhgi;
24 ecugfjthcg'
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22 OR' O@]@R@JP< R`a`vjgm`'
2= Z' BX OR' \CG@G< Ynjt fhf ycu jmmcopahsn hg
26 mcurt3
20 OR' O@]@R@JP< Cbl`mthcg' A`jfhgi;
25 ecugfjthcg; r`a`vjgm`; vjiu`; jgf mjaas ecr hoprcp`r
29 cphghcg'
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2 hs vjiu`'
= Z' BX OR' \CG@G< Jaa rhint' Y`r` ycu jba` tc
6 i`t j ruahgi hg r`ijrfs tc ycur mustcfy ce ycur
0 mnhafr`g3
5 OR' O@]@R@JP< Cbl`mthcg; r`a`vjgm`; octhcg
9 tc `xmauf`'
> VN@ MCPRV< Cv`rrua`f'
8 Z' BX OR' \CG@G< Ic jn`jf'
:4 J' Gct r`ijrfs tc mustcfy! but oy pjr`gtja
:: rhints w`r` r`hgstjt`f'
:2 Z' Jt tnhs tho` ycu njv` pjr`gtja rhints jijhg!
:= hs tnjt rhint3
:6 J' X`s! H fc'
:0 Z' Njv` ycu s``g ycur mnhafr`g3
:5 J' Gc! H njv` gct'
:9 Z' Jr` ycu sthaa hg mcurt ojkhgi jg `eecrt tc
:> fc sc3
:8 J' U`ry oumn sc' Jmthv`ay'
24 Z' Njv` ycu `v`r s``g ycurs`ae cg t`a`vhshcg cr
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20 J' H r`vh`w`f ht ajst ghint' H njfg)t s``g ht'
25 H fhfg)t wjtmn ht wn`g ht wjs cg t`a`vhshcg! scH
29 sjw j vhf`c ajst `v`ghgi'
2> Z' Jaa rhint' Vnjt wjs tn` sjo` vhf`c tnjt ycu 98>5
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2 J' X`s'
= Z' But cg tn` cmmjshcg ajst ghint! ycu vh`w`f
6 ht whtn ir`jt`r f`tjha3
0 J' X`s'
5 Z' Fhf ycu `v`r s`` tn` Ojury Tcvhmn ehao tnjt
9 wjs e`jtur`f jt j ajt`r tho`3
> J' H fcg)t r`o`ob`r wjtmnhgi ht'
8 Z' Fhf ycu `v`r r`m`hv` jgy ocg`y ecr ycur
:4 pjrthmhpjthcg //
:: J' Gc'
:2 Z' // hg tnhs hgt`rvh`w3
:= J' Gc'
:6 Z' Ynjt wjs ycur octhvjthcg tc pjrthmhpjt` hg
:0 tnhs hgt`rvh`w3
:5 J' Vc s`` oy mnhafr`g'
:9 OR' \CG@G< Vnjgk ycu' H njv` gc eurtn`r
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24 OR' O@]@R@JP< Xcur Ncgcr! w`)f ahk` tc
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22 jr`js'
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26 subl`mt tc euaa jriuo`gt! but jt tnhs pchgt H wcuaf
20 prcbjbay gct irjgt tnjt octhcg'
25 VN@ YHVG@]]< Iccf ocrghgi! Or' O`s`r`ju'
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:8 J' H mcrr`mt`f nho! jgf sjhf tnjt oy pjr`gtja
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24 rhints njf b``g r`hgstjt`f //
2: Z' Ckjy'
22 J' // wn`g n` o`gthcg`f mustcfy'
2= Z' Ckjy' Ckjy' Gcw! wn`g fhf ycu ehrst o``t
26 Or' ]mnjee`a3
20 J' Yn`g Or' Ljmkscg jsk`f o` tc fc tn`
25 hgt`rvh`w'
29 Z' Ckjy' Jgf fhf ycu ehrst o``t nho jt tn`
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: J' X`s' T`rscgjaay // H njf spck`g tc nho cg
2 tn` pncg`' But p`rscgjaay! y`s'
= Z' Jgf H ijtn`r ycu f`v`acp`f sco` typ` ce
6 erh`gfsnhp whtn nho; hs tnjt tru`3
0 J' H wcuafg)t mjaa ht j erh`gfsnhp' Ocr` ce jg
5 jmqujhgtjgm`' Ocr` tnjg jg jmqujhgtjgm`snhp! but
9 gct j erh`gfsnhp'
> Z' Jgf ycu w`r` mjaahgi nho jpprcxhojt`ay `v`ry
8 w``k; hs tnjt tru`3
:4 J' Ecr jbcut tnr`` ocgtns! y`s'
:: Z' Ckjy' Jgf jt sco` pchgt ycu w`r` hg mcgtjmt
:2 whtn tn` ]jgtj Bjrbjrj sn`rhees jbcut tnhs mjs`!
:= mcrr`mt3
:6 J' Vn`y njf mjaa`f o`! y`s' Jgf H fhf gct
:0 r`turg tn` ehrst mjaa'
:5 Z' Jgf `v`gtujaay! ycu f`v`acp`f sco`wnjt ce j
:9 fhjaciu` whtn ]jgtj Bjrbjrj sn`rhees jbcut tnhs
:> mjs`! rhint3
:8 J' Yn`g tn`y mjuint o` cg oy m`aa pncg` cg oy
24 wjy nco` erco Tjao ]prhgis! y`s! tn` guob`r tn`y
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22 Z' Jgf ycu jir``f tc ojk` wnjt ycu mjaa`f sco`
2= pr`t`xt pncg` mjaas ecr tn` sn`rhees! mcrr`mt3
26 J' Mcrr`mt'
20 Z' Jgf j pr`t`xt pncg` mjaa o`jgs bjshmjaay ycu
25 jir``f tc wcrk whtn tn` sn`rhees! t`a`pncg` p`cpa`
29 jgf tjak tc tn`o wnha` tn` sn`rhees w`r` r`mcrfhgi
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: J' Mcrr`mt'
2 Z' Jgf tn` hf`j wjs tnjt tn` p`cpa` ycu wcuaf
= mjaa wcuaf gct kgcw tn`y w`r` b`hgi r`mcrf`f! rhint3
6 J' Mcrr`mt'
0 Z' Cgay ycu jgf tn` sn`rhees wcuaf kgcw tn`r`
5 w`r` r`mcrfhgis! rhint3
9 J' Mcrr`mt'
> Z' Gcw! ncw ojgy ce tn`s` pr`t`xt pncg` mjaas
8 fc ycu tnhgk ycu ojf` whtn cr ecr tn` sn`rhees3
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:6 njv` trh`f tc fc cg` whtn Fh`t`r'
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:5 J' H fcg)t r`o`ob`r'
:9 Z' Ckjy' ]c tn` cgay p`cpa` ycu r`mjaa
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24 tnjt rhint3
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22 wcuafg)t njv` kgcwg'
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26 w`r` hgt`rvh`w`f3
20 J' X`s! tn`y w`r`'
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29 ycu `v`r spck`g tc Or' Fr`w b`ecr`3
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2 hgt`rvh`w3
= J' X`s! H fhf'
6 Z' ]c ycu o`t Hjg Fr`w ecr tn` ehrst tho` jt
0 Ojrm ]mnjee`a)s nco`! rhint3
5 J' Mcrr`mt'
9 Z' Jgf jet`r ycu o`t nho! fhf ycu f`v`acp jg
> ugf`rstjgfhgi js tc wn`tn`r cr gct Or' Fr`w wcuaf
8 njv` j rca` hg ycur hgt`rvh`w3
:4 J' H wjs tcaf n` wjs tn` cg` tnjt wcuaf b`
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:5 J' X`s! n` fhf'
:9 Z' Jgf H b`ah`v` ycu sjhf ycu tncuint tn`r`
:> w`r` jbcut :40 qu`sthcgs! rhint3
:8 J' N` tcaf o` tn`r` w`r` :40'
24 Z' Or' Fr`w tcaf ycu tnjt3
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22 Z' Fhf n` `v`r sncw ycu tn` ahst ce qu`sthcgs3
2= J' N` cee`r`f tc'
26 Z' Jgf ycu r`eus`f! rhint3
20 J' Mcrr`mt'
25 Z' Xcu r`eus`f b`mjus` ycu wjgt`f tc ihv` j
29 spcgtjg`cus typ` ce r`spcgs` tc wnjt`v`r n` jsk`
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6 Ljmkscg! rhint3
0 J' X`s'
5 Z' Xcu jgsw`r`f qu`sthcgs ecr jpprcxhojt`ay
9 ghg` ncurs; hs tnjt tru`3
> J' X`s' Ht wjs j v`ry acgi fjy'
8 Z' Jgf ycu w`r` jsk`f jaa scrts ce qu`sthcgs
:4 jbcut wnjt khgf ce p`rscg Or' Ljmkscg wjs! rhint3
:: J' X`s'
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:6 J' X`s'
:0 Z' // rhint3
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:9 ejohay p`rscg3
:> J' X`s'
:8 Z' Xcu w`r` jsk`f jbcut wn`tn`r n` wjs j iccf
24 erh`gf ce ycurs! rhint3
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22 Z' Jgf ycu! tnrcuincut tnjt ghg`/ncur p`rhcf!
2= w`r` v`ry pcshthv` jbcut Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg! rhint3
26 J' X`s'
20 Z' Jgf wn`g ycu ict tn`r` ecr tn` hgt`rvh`w!
25 ycur ugf`rstjgfhgi wjs ycu w`r` ichgi tn`r` tc n`ap
29 fc j v`ry pcshthv`! ejvcrjba` ph`m` jbcut Ohmnj`a!
2> rhint3 9882
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6 g`ijthv` stuee tnjt jpp`jr`f hg tn` Bjsnhr
0 fcmuo`gtjry! rhint3
5 J' H fhfg)t kgcw wnjt tn` vhf`c wjs' H njf
9 g`v`r n`jrf ce Bjsnhr' Ht wjs r`ijrfhgi sco`tnhgi
> tnjt njf pajy`f hg @urcp` jgf wjs ichgi tc b` pajy`f
8 hg tn` Pght`f ]tjt`s' H fhfg)t wjgt tc s`` tn`
:4 vhf`c' H fhfg)t wjgt tc s`` tn` trjgsmrhpts erco
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:2 Z' Ckjy' Ckjy' But ycu kg`w tn`r` wjs // tn`
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:6 tnjt njf b``g g`ijthv` jbcut Ohmnj`a! rhint3
:0 J' G`ijthv`! twhst`f! ohsugf`rstccf! wnjt`v`r
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22 J' H ncp` H fhf'
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26 ycur mcoo`gts w`r` pajm`f cg j V'U' fcmuo`gtjry!
20 rhint3
25 J' Vn` sncw tnjt // wnjt`v`r ht wjs tnjt jhr`f
29 ecr ht! y`jn' H tnhgk tn`y sjhf tn` Tcvhmn tnhgi'
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: guob`r ce ocgtns3
2 J' X`s'
= Z' Jgf ycu wcuaf s`` nho erco tho` tc tho`!
6 rhint3
0 J' Gc! H g`v`r sjw nho' H sjw nho cg` tho` //
5 Z' Xcu njf augmn whtn nho cg` tho`3
9 J' N` s`t o` up' X`s! H njf augmn whtn nho cg`
> tho`'
8 Z' Yn`r` wjs tnjt3
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:= Z' Jgf wnjt fc ycu o`jg by tnjt3
:6 J' Jppjr`gtay tn`r` wjs j o``thgi ichgi cg whtn
:0 Ohmnj`a jgf sco` ce nhs p`cpa`! jgf H ajt`r ecugf
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:9 sc Ojrm njf mjaa`f o` up jgf sjhf! Fc ycu wjgttc
:> ic tc augmn3 Jgf H sjhf! ]ur`' H sjhf! Fc ycu
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24 wjgt tc mco` cv`r n`r`3 H)aa phmk ycu up' Xcu
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22 wny fcg)t H phmk ycu up' Jgf H sjhf! Ehg`' Yn`r`
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26 tnjt ckjy3 H sjhf! ]ur`' H g`v`r njf jgy
20 prcba`os jt Vn` Hvy b`ecr`' ]c w` w`gt tc Vn` Hvy'
25 Z' Jgf wcuaf ]mnjee`a mjaa ycu erco tho` tc
29 tho`3
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: Z' Ckjy' Jgf ycu njv` pr`vhcusay mcoo`gt`f
2 tnjt ycu tncuint Or' ]mnjee`a wjs ushgi Or' Ljmkscg!
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6 J' Cn! y`jn'
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9 OR' \CG@G< H)o ichgi tc cbl`mt js ajmk ce
> ecugfjthcg' ]n` sjhf sn` lust o`t nho' Jasc
8 hoprcp`r cphghcg'
:4 VN@ MCPRV< Cv`rrua`f'
:: Z' BX OR' O@]@R@JP< Xcu tcaf tn` sn`rhees
:2 tnjt! hg ycur cphghcg! Ojrm ]mnjee`a wjs mcgthgujaay
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:6 J' Mcrr`mt'
:0 Z' Jgf ycu tncuint n` wjs ojghpuajthgi Ohmnj`a
:5 Ljmkscg tc ojk` acts ce ocg`y! rhint3
:9 J' X`s'
:> Z' Gcw! ycu o`t Fh`t`r jt sco` pchgt! tru`3
:8 J' X`s'
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26 Z' Ckjy' Jgf fhf ycu o``t Kcghtz`r jt sco`
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0 J' H spck` whtn nho wn`g H spck` whtn Or'
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9 njf b``g cg tn` pncg`' Vn`y njf b``g cg tn` pncg`
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8 Z' Jgf ycu)v` jasc ojf` stjt`o`gts tc tn`
:4 sn`rhees tnjt ycu tncuint Fh`t`r jgf Kcghtz`r w`r`
:: ojghpuajthgi Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg! mcrr`mt3
:2 J' X`s'
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:6 jfvjgtji` ce Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg! tru`3
:0 J' X`s'
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22 tncs` tnr`` w`r` wcrkhgi tci`tn`r3
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26 Z' Xcu f`ehght`ay ict tnjt hopr`sshcg3
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6 r`ocv`f erco wnjt tncs` iuys w`r` fchgi! rhint3
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5 njgfa`rs! tn` p`cpa` wnc jr` tjkhgi mjr` ce
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8 Z' Jgf ycu tncuint tn`s` tnr`` iuys! ]mnjee`a!
:4 Fh`t`r jgf Kcghtz`r! w`r` fchgi lust tnjt! fhfg)t
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:6 trh`f tc wjrg Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg jbcut ]mnjee`a!
:0 Kcghtz`r jgf Fh`t`r3
:5 J' H fhf' H trh`f tc ic tnrcuin oy // oy //
:9 H)o scrry! oy caf bcss' Jgf jmtujaay! wn`g H fhf
:> mjaa! H wjs tcaf tnjt! B` mjr`eua ce Ojrm'
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:8 Z' Jgf ycur caf bcss wjs Fr' Ka`hg3
24 J' Jrgcaf Ka`hg! y`s' K/a/`/h/g'
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22 whtn Ohmnj`a! tnrcuin Fr' Ka`hg! tc wjrg nho jbcut
2= wnjt tn`s` tnr`` mnjrjmt`rs w`r` fchgi tc Ohmnj`a3
26 J' Cr tc acck jgf s`` he n` wjs jwjr` ce wnjt
20 wjs ichgi cg! he n` `v`g kg`w tnjt H wjs sthaa
25 tryhgi tc s`` tn` mnhafr`g'
29 Z' Ckjy' Jgf cg` ce tn` prcba`os ycu njf wjs
2> tnjt b`mjus` ce tn` mustcfy hssu`s! ycu w`r` 9889
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2 J' Mcrr`mt'
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6 tc mcooughmjt` whtn Ohmnj`a! rhint3
0 J' Ht wjs fheehmuat! y`s'
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9 J' Ht wjs `jsy whtn Or' ]ph`i`a! Ajgm` ]ph`i`a'
> Z' Jgf Or' ]ph`i`a wjs j prhcr ajwy`r ecr Or'
8 Ljmkscg3
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:2 ycu // wn`g w`r` ycu fhvcrm`f erco Or' Ljmkscg3
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:8 Z' Ckjy' J y`jr jgf j njae ajt`r ycu ijv` up
24 mustcfy ce tn` mnhafr`g! jgf ycu njf tn` vhshtjt
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26 mustcfy' H njf vhshtjthcg / H)o scrry! H
20 ohsugf`rstccf / `v`ry 60 fjys'
25 Z' Jpprcxhojt`ay ncw acgi wjs ycur ojrrhji` tc
29 Or' Ljmkscg3
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6 Z' Jgf ycu sthaa fc! rhint3
0 J' X`jn' He n`)f tjak tc o`' ]crry'
5 Z' Jgf whtncut qu`sthcg! tn` mcooughmjthgi
9 tnrcuin ajwy`rs njs mr`jt`f prcba`os whtn //
> J' Njv` ycu o`t Or' Njaa3 @xtr`o` prcba`os'
8 Z' Ckjy' Ckjy' Xcu)r` bajohgi tn` ajwy`rs ecr
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26 J' N`)s // H kgcw n` mjaa`f o` cgm`! jgf H
20 b`ah`v` H mjaa`f nho'
25 Z' Gcw! fhf ycu a`jrg jt sco` pchgt // `xmus`
29 o`' B`ecr` H i`t hgtc tnjt! ncw ojgy mjaas fc ycu
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2 Z' Cn! jrcugf tn` tho` ce tn` hgt`rvh`w'
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6 fhfg)t s`` nho ecr jbcut j y`jr' Yn`g n` mjo` bjmk
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9 Z' Fhf ycu f`v`acp j erh`gfsnhp whtn nho3
> J' X`jn'
8 Z' Ckjy' Gcw! fhf ycu a`jrg jt sco` pchgt tnjt
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:2 J' X`s! H //
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22 ecr j f`bt tnjt Or' Ljmkscg njf cw`f nho' H ajt`r
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26 tnjt H wjgt`f &:44!444 ecr fchgi tn` hgt`rvh`w'
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25 njv` tjk`g ht / jgf n` k`pt ht'
29 Z' Jgf ncw fhf ycu a`jrg tnhs hgecrojthcg3
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6 J' X`s! n` fhf'
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5 erco Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg! tru`3
9 J' N` sjhf Ohmnj`a cw`f nho j ohaahcg fcaajrs'
> Z' Jgf jpprcxhojt`ay wn`g fhf Ojrm ]mnjee`a
8 t`aa ycu n` wjs ichgi tc su` Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg3
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24 Z' Ckjy' Fhf ]mnjee`a `v`r jsk ycu ecr
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22 J' Gc'
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26 nho hg nhs bushg`ss f`jahgis whtn Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg3
20 J' H wcuafg)t njv` ihv`g ht tc nho'
25 Z' Ckjy' Fhf n` `v`r jsk ycu ecr n`ap! tncuin3
29 J' H)o scrry3
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2 J' Gc' N` lust brjii`f jbcut `htn`r ncw n`
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6 kg`w gctnhgi jbcut cr ncw n` wjs ichgi tc fc tnhs!
0 tnjt cr tn` ctn`r tnhgi tc ojk` sur` tnjt Ohmnj`a)s
5 mjr``r wjs sjv`f! jgf tnhgis ce tnjt gjtur`'
9 Z' Fhf ]mnjee`a t`aa ycu tnjt n` wjs hgvcav`f
> hg bushg`ss ojtt`rs whtn Fh`t`r3
8 J' X`s'
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:6 n` wjs gct ihvhgi Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg jaa tn`
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:9 Ljmkscg' X`jn! n` wjsg)t t`aahgi nho `v`rytnhgi'
:> Z' Yny fhf ycu tnhgk ]mnjee`a wjs mjaahgi ycu3
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24 wcrkhgi cg ht' Xcu)aa b` s``hgi tn` khfs'
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26 tci`tn`r'
20 Z' Jgf ycu fhfg)t tnhgk n` wjs b`hgi trutneua!
25 rhint3
29 J' Cbvhcusay n`)s euaa ce snht' ]crry'
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: Z' Xcu mcgshf`r Ojrm ]mnjee`a j ahjr! fcg)t
2 ycu3
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:6 ]mnjee`a)s r`shf`gm`! rhint3
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:9 ]mnjee`a! rhint3
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2: J' Ojrm tcaf o` tnjt Hjg wjs j pajgt jt cg` ce
22 tn` tjbachfs tc rug hgt`re`r`gm` ecr bjf pubahmhty
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26 Z' Jgf fhf ycu b`ah`v` tnjt3
20 J' H fhfg)t kgcw! fhfg)t mjr`! fhfg)t wjgt tc
25 b` tn`r`! but wjs tn`r` ecr tn` khfs jgf ecr nho'
29 H // ycu kgcw! H wjgt`f tc i`t hg jgf i`t cut' H)o
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: Z' Yjs ht ycur ugf`rstjgfhgi tnjt ]mnjee`a wjs
2 ushgi Hjg Fr`w ecr j pjrthmuajr purpcs`3
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6 Z' Jgf tnjt purpcs` wjs tc s`w pubahmhty tnjt
0 n` wjgt`f hg tn` tjbachfs3
5 J' Vc i`t hgecrojthcg cut' H fcg)t kgcw he H
9 kg`w tnjt ht wjs // he H kg`w tnjt ht wjs Vn` Iac
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> tn`g tnjt n` wjs tn` pajgt ecr! cr he Ojrm tcaf o`
8 sncrtay tn`r`jet`r' H tnhgk Ojrm tcaf o` jt tn`
:4 fjy! tn` fjy tnjt ht wjs! sc H kg`w tnjt H wjs
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:6 J' ]ncmkhgiay wjs ohshgt`rpr`t`f'
:0 Z' Jgf wjs ht ycur hopr`sshcg tnjt ]mnjee`a wjs
:5 ushgi Fr`w tc prcoct` ]mnjee`a)s bushg`ss hgt`r`sts3
:9 J' He H)o mcgshf`r`f j mcoocfhty tc Or'
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24 wjs ushgi ycu js j mcoocfhty! rhint3
2: J' ]mnjee`a wjs tjakhgi cut bctn shf`s ce nhs
22 ocutn! t`aahgi o` cg` tnhgi! t`aahgi Or' Ljmkscg
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26 Z' Xcu tncuint n` wjs ushgi tn` twc ce ycu!
20 fhfg)t ycu3
25 J' X`s'
29 Z' ]mnjee`a brjii`f tc ycu jbcut tn` ajri` suos
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2 J' X`s! n` fhf'
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6 cee ce Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg! fhfg)t n`3
0 J' X`s! n` fhf'
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9 J' Mcgstjgtay'
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8 n` wjs ichgi tc ojk` cee ce Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg3
:4 J' N` wjsg)t js // n` wjs ocr` subta` jbcut ht
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:6 ecr Ohmnj`a'
:0 Z' Fhf Kcghtz`r brji jbcut jaa tn` ocg`y n` wjs
:5 ichgi tc ojk` cee ce Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg3
:9 J' N` njf bhi pajgs' ]c // but tn`y // H
:> fhfg)t sp`jk whtn nho js cet`g js H spck` whtn Ojrm'
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26 whtn Rcgjaf jgf Fh`t`r jet`rwjrfs wn`g tn`y mjaa`f
20 tc sjy tnjt `v`rytnhgi wjs ehg` whtn tn` vhf`c!jgf
25 Vnjgk ycu! jgf Vnhgis whaa b` ehg`' Y` njv` bhi
29 pajgs! jgf stuee ahk` tnjt' H tnhgk tn`r`)s cgay
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9 Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg' He ycu njv` jgy qu`sthcg jbcut
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25 Z' Ckjy' Jgf fhf ]mnjee`a tjak tc ycu jbcut jg
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25 sn`rhee)s f`pjrto`gt' Vn`y fcg)t ihv` ycu jgy
29 hgecrojthcg' Vnjt)s wny H wjgt`f tc ehgf cut ecr
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2= J' X`s'
26 Z' Jaa rhint' ]hgm` tn` `jray '84s! njv` ycu
20 s``g nho hgt`rjmt whtn Or' Kcghtz`r3
25 J' Tnyshmjaay! gc' Lust cg tn` pncg`'
29 Z' Fhf ycu n`jr nho hgt`rjmt whtn nho cg tn`
2> t`a`pncg`! hg ctn`r wcrfs! mcgv`rsjthcgs wn`r` ycu >4==
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: w`r` pr`s`gt3
2 J' Yn`g Or' ]mnjee`a wjs s`tthgi up tn`
= hgt`rvh`w //
6 Z' X`s'
0 J' // Rcgjaf wjs tn`r` whtn Ohmnj`a'
5 Z' Yjs tnjt tn` cgay mcgv`rsjthcg tnjt ycu njf!
9 w`r` pjrty tc //
> J' Gc'
8 Z' // hgvcavhgi Or' Ljmkscg jgf Or' Kcghtz`r3
:4 J' Gc' Vn`r` wjs cg` cr twc jet`r tnjt'
:: Lust // jet`r tn` hgt`rvh`w! tnjgkhgi o`! sjyhgi
:2 `v`rytnhgi wjs ichgi tc b` ehg`! jgf H fcg)t r`mjaa
:= he tn`r` wjs jgctn`r cg` jet`r tnjt'
:6 Z' Yjs Or' Ljmkscg hgvcav`f hg tncs`
:0 mcgv`rsjthcgs3
:5 J' Gc! n` wjs gct'
:9 Z' Vnjt wjs lust j mcgv`rsjthcg whtn ycu jgf
:> Or' Kcghtz`r3
:8 J' Gc! Ojrm wcuaf njv` b``g cg tn` pncg`' N`
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24 fhf gct njv` oy pncg` guob`r'
2: Z' Jaa rhint' ]c ht wjs j mcgv`rsjthcg
22 hgvcavhgi ycu! Ojrm ]mnjee`a jgf Rcgjaf Kcghtz`r
3
2= J' X`s'
26 Z' Jgf tn` subl`mt ce tnjt mcgv`rsjthcgs wjs
20 wnjt3
25 J' ]up`rehmhja' Jbcut tn` vhf`c'
29 Z' Gctnhgi jbcut Or' Ljmkscg)s bushg`ss
2> jeejhrs3 >4=6
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: J' Gc' Gct whtn Ohmnj`a cg tn` pncg`! gc'
2 Z' Fhf jgy ce tn`o tjak tc ycu jbcut hssu`s
= f`jahgi whtn tn` Ojrthg Bjsnhr vhf`c3
6 J' B`ecr` cr jet`r tn` hgt`rvh`w3
0 Z' Jet`r tn` hgt`rvh`w'
5 J' Yn`g tn` hgt`rvh`w jhr`f! ht fhf! jgf tn`y
9 sjhf tnjt tn` hgt`rvh`w tnjt H njf fcg` wcuaf n`a
p
> f`ea`mt jgf fc fjoji` mcgtrca'
8 Z' Fhf tn`y sjy tnjt tc ycu ocr` tnjg cgm`3
:4 J' X`s'
:: Z' Fhf Or' Kcghtz`r sjy pcshthv` tnhgis tc ycu
:2 jbcut ycur hgvcav`o`gt hg tnhs hgt`rvh`w3
:= J' Jbcut oy pcsshba` hgvcav`o`gt3
:6 Z' Gc'
:0 J' H)o scrry'
:5 Z' Fhf n` sjy pcshthv` tnhgis tc ycu jbcut ycur
:9 hgvcav`o`gt3
:> J' X`jn' X`jn'
:8 Z' Fhf n` sjy tnjt ycu w`r` n`apeua3
24 J' X`jn'
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2: Z' Fhf ycu b`ah`v` tnjt ycu w`r`3
22 J' X`jn'
2= Z' Yjs tnjt ycur hgt`gt3
26 J' X`s'
20 Z' Jaa rhint' Fc ycu sthaa ahk` Ohmnj`a
25 Ljmkscg3
29 J' H njv` v`ry strcgi o`ocrh`s jgf e``ahgis ecr
2> tn` Ohmnj`a tnjt H njv` kgcwg but njv`g)t s``g shgm` >4=0
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: :888' But tncs` jr` bjs`f cg oy e``ahgis' Y`
2 njv`g)t spck`g'
= Z' Jaa rhint' Hs ht tn` mjs` tnjt tn` suo
6 tctja ce ycur mcooughmjthcg whtn Or' Ljmkscg shgm`
0 :888! shx y`jrs jic! wjs j twc/jgf/j/njae/ohgut`
5 mcgv`rsjthcg tnjt ycu f`smrhb`f3
9 J' Mcrr`mt'
> Z' Jgf tnjt wjs j mcgv`rsjthcg wn`r` n` jsk`f
8 ycu tc pjrthmhpjt` hg tnhs vhf`c; hs tnjt mcrr`mt3
:4 J' Vc wcrk whtn Rcgjaf! Fh`t`r! jgf Ojrm'
:: Z' Hs ht ma`jr tc ycu tnjt n` ugf`rstccf tnjt
:2 ycu wjgt`f tc s`` ycur mnhafr`g3
:= J' X`s'
:6 Z' Jaa rhint' Fhf n` `v`r mjaa ycu tc sjy
:0 tnjt //
:5 J' Gc'
:9 Z' // cr tc hgvht` ycu up tc mco` s`` tn`
:> mnhafr`g3
:8 J' Gc! n` fhfg)t'
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24 Z' Ync fc ycu b`ah`v` hs r`spcgshba` ecr ycur
2: gct b`hgi jba` tc s`` tn` mnhafr`g3
22 OR' O@]@R@JP< Cbl`mthcg' R`a`vjgm`;
2= ecugfjthcg'
26 VN@ MCPRV< Cv`rrua`f'
20 Z' BX OR' \CG@G< Xcu mjg jgsw`r tn` qu`sthcg'
25 J' N`)s tn`hr ejtn`r' Pathojt`ay ht)s nhs
29 f`mhshcg' H fcg)t wjgt tc b`ah`v` tnjt' H wjgt tc
2> b`ah`v` tnjt ht)s ctn`r p`cpa`' H wjgt tc b`ah`v` >4=5
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: ht)s Ojrm ]mnjee`a tnr`jt`ghgi nho tnjt H wjgt tc
2 tjk` tn` mnhafr`g! tnhgis ahk` tnjt'
= Z' Ncw acgi njs Ojrm ]mnjee`a b``g hgvcav`f
6 whtn Ohmnj`a Ljmkscg3 Yn`g fc ycu b`ah`v` wjs tn`
0 `gf ce Or' ]mnjee`a)s hgvcav`o`gt whtn Ohmnj`a
5 Ljmkscg3
9 J' H tnhgk Vn` Hvy hgmhf`gt wjs prcbjbay wnjt
> tcr` ht'
8 Z' Jaa rhint'
:4 J' Ojrm tcaf o` n` wjs cg tn` cuts jgf wjgt`f
:: tc fc wnjt n` mcuaf tc i`t bjmk hg'
:2 Z' Yn`g fhf n` eha` tn` ajwsuht jijhgst Ohmnj`a
:= Ljmkscg3
:6 J' H fcg)t kgcw ncw acgi ht tjk`s tc jmtujaay
:0 i`t tc mcurt wn`g ycu eha` j pjp`r! cr wnjt`v`r!but
:5 n` njf tjak`f jbcut ht jbcut tnr`` ocgtns jic'
:9 Z' Jaa rhint'
:> J' ]c H fcg)t kgcw he n` wjs ehahgi tn` pjp`rs
:8 tn`g! he n` wjs i`tthgi r`jfy tc eha` tn` pjp`rs
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24 Z' Jaa rhint' But ycur ugf`rstjgfhgi hs tnjt
2: Ojrm ]mnjee`a njsg)t njf jgytnhgi tc fc whtn Ohm
nj`a
22 Ljmkscg ecr j guob`r ce ocgtns gcw; hs tnjt mcrr`mt3
2= J' Mcrr`mt'
26 Z' Jaa rhint' Jgf y`t ycu)r` sthaa b`hgi
20 f`gh`f jmm`ss tc ycur mnhafr`g3
25 OR' O@]@R@JP< Cbl`mthcg' A`jfhgi;
29 r`a`vjgm`; ecugfjthcg'
2> VN@ MCPRV< Cv`rrua`f' >4=9
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: Z' BX OR' \CG@G< Hs tnjt tru`3
2 J' Y`)r` // y`s! y`s'
= Z' Jaa rhint' Y`aa! tn`g wnc fc ycu tnhgk hs
6 r`spcgshba` ecr tnjt! he ht)s gct Ojrm ]mnjee`a3
0 OR' O@]@R@JP< Cbl`mthcg' R`a`vjgm`;
5 ecugfjthcg; a`jfhgi; jgf cphghcg'
9 VN@ MCPRV< Ht)s jriuo`gtjthv`' ]ustjhg`f'
> Z' BX OR' \CG@G< V`aa us! hg ycur cphghcg! wnc
8 hs r`spcgshba` jt tnhs tho` ecr ycur gct b`hgi jba`
:4 tc njv` jmm`ss tc ycur mnhafr`g3
:: OR' O@]@R@JP< ]jo` cbl`mthcg'
:2 VN@ MCPRV< Cv`rrua`f'
:= VN@ YHVG@]]< Yn`g H wjs ehrst prcohs`f tc
:6 s`` tn` khfs! wn`g Ohmnj`a // n` mjaa`f o`! ecro`
:0 tc sncw up wn`g tn`y w`r` jt tnjt ji` ce tnr`` jgf
:5 ecur! ecur jgf ehv`! H mcuaf b` hgtrcfum`f js j
:9 erh`gf! js j erh`gf ce fjffy)s' Jgf ycu fcg)t
:> mcgeus` j mnhaf by sjyhgi! Cn! tnhs hs ycur
:8 octn`r'
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24 H mjg)t fc tnjt gcw' Vn`y)r` tcc caf' Vc
2: fc sco`tnhgi ahk` tnjt! ht wcuaf b` tcc trjuojthm'
22 H wcuaf gct wjak hg jgf sjy! N`y! H)o ycur oco!
2= ycu kgcw! Yjgt tc ic cut3
26 Ht)s // ht)s sc oumn ocr` mcopahmjt`f tnjg
20 tnjt wn`g r`hgtrcfumhgi ycurs`ae tc mnhafr`g wnc
ojy
25 cr ojy gct r`o`ob`r o`'
29 Z' BX OR' \CG@G< Jr` ycu sjyhgi tnjt ycu
2> b`ah`v` tnjt Or' Ljmkscg hs jo`gjba` tc ycur s``hgi >4=>
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: ycur mnhafr`g; ht)s lust j qu`sthcg ce ncw3
2 OR' O@]@R@JP< Cbl`mthcg' A`jfhgi;
= jriuo`gtjthv`; gc ecugfjthcg'
6 OR' \CG@G< Ht)s hop`jmno`gt! Xcur Ncgcr! js
0 tc tn` a`jfhgi hssu`'
5 OR' O@]@R@JP< Hoprcp`r cphghcg'
9 VN@ MCPRV< Vn` cbl`mthcg hs cv`rrua`f'
> Fc ycu wjgt tn` qu`sthcg r`jf bjmk3
8 VN@ YHVG@]]< Gc' Vnjgk ycu'
:4 H)o ncphgi hg oy n`jrt tnjt n` hs' But w`
:: njv`g)t spck`g! sc H fcg)t kgcw' H i`t tc f`ja whtn
:2 Jbrjos jgf Njaa'
:= Z' BX OR' \CG@G< Yny fc ycu b`ah`v` n` njsg)t
:6 spck`g whtn ycu3
:0 OR' O@]@R@JP< Cbl`mthcg' A`jfhgi;
:5 jriuo`gtjthv`; ecugfjthcg; r`a`vjgm`'
:9 VN@ MCPRV< Cv`rrua`f'
:> VN@ YHVG@]]< H fcg)t kgcw he n` hs
:8 mcgm`rg`f jbcut tnhs mjs`' H fcg)t kgcw wnjt nhs
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24 mcgm`rgs jr`! he n` tnhgks H)o ichgi tc tjk` tn`
2: mnhafr`g erco nho' H fcg)t kgcw' H njv`g)t spck`g
22 tc nho' H fcg)t kgcw'
2= Z' BX OR' \CG@G< Ncw ojgy mcgv`rsjthcgs njv`
26 ycu njf whtn Fh`t`r Y`hzg`r3
20 J' Vn` ajst mcgv`rsjthcg H njf whtn Fh`t`r H
25 tnhgk wjs jt Vn` Hvy'
29 Z' Jgf ncw ojgy mcgv`rsjthcgs prhcr tc tnjt3
2> J' Cg` cr twc' >4=8
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: Z' Xcu sjhf tnjt ycu w`r` s`t up! hs tnjt
2 mcrr`mt! jt tnjt //
= J' Hg oy cphghcg //
6 Z' // augmn3
0 J' // y`s'
5 Z' Ynjt fc`s tnjt o`jg! s`t up3
9 J' Xcu fcg)t ic tc augmn jgf tn`g mjaa tn`
> pjpjrjzzh tc mco` jgf tjk` j phmtur` ce ycu wnha`
8 ycu)r` tryhgi tc njv` j sjajf! jgf tn`g sco`cg` rugs
:4 jmrcss tn` str``t jgf jaocst i`ts nht by j mjr
:: b`mjus` tn`y)r` tjkhgi oy phmtur`'
:2 Z' Xcu fhfg)t o`gthcg tnjt hg mrcss/`xjohgjthcg
:= wn`g ycu sjhf tnjt tc Or' O`s`r`ju'
:6 J' Cn! scrry' H tncuint //
:0 Z' Hs tnjt wnjt ht wjs tnjt ycu b`ah`v` tc b`
:5 tn` s`t/up3
:9 J' X`s! b`mjus` Ohmnj`a wjs njvhgi j o``thgi
:> whtn nhs // sco` ircup ce p`cpa` jt tn` B`v`ray
:8 Nhaas Nct`a cr sco`tnhgi' Jgf Ojrm jgf Fh`t`r w`r`
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24 gct hgmauf`f' ]c tn`y w`r` ichgi tc sncw nho'
2: Z' Jaa rhint' Ynjt fc`s tn` pr`s`gm` ce
22 pjpjrjzzh njv` tc fc whtn tnjt3
2= J' H)o jssuohgi b`mjus` Ojrm ]mnjee`a mcuaf gct
26 i`t tc Ohmnj`a! tnjt he sco`cg` w`r` tc s`` ht cg
20 V'U' cr sco`tnhgi! tn`g ht wcuaf b` f`trho`gtjatc
25 nho'
29 Z' Ncw acgi njs Ohm