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NRCan/CGSB Certification of NDT Personnel:

Program Updates

Presentation for 2013 CINDE Conference – Oct 10, 2013

P.K. Yuen

Manager

National Non-Destructive Testing Certification Body /

Organisme national de certification en Essais-Non-Destructif

CanmetMATERIALS

Natural Resources Canada

Government of Canada / Gouvernement du Canada

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Presentation Outline

Program Updates

Certification Statistics

Administration & Client Service

Scheme and Technical Committees

ISO 9712:2012 – CGSB Adoption CAN/CGSB 48.9712:2013

Preview and Highlights of Updated Requirements and Rules of

Implementation

Recertification

Training and Examination

Summary

3 NDT C.B. – Yearly Statistics

Certificates Issued

PERSONNEL CERTIFIED EACH YEAR – 2012, 2011, 2010.

JANUARY 1, 2012 - December 31, 2012

Method Level

XRF RT UT MT PT ET Total

3 2 7 3 7 0 19

2 73 38 65 234 166 17 593

1 156 5 104 22 287

Total certified NDT clients: 572

Total certified NDT+XRF clients: 801

Certified Level 3 Clients: 19 Certified Level 2 Clients: 520

Certified Level 1 Clients: 131

Total NDT certificates issued: 670

Total NDT+XRF certificates issued: 899 Total 229 45 176 237 173 39 899

JANUARY 1, 2011 - DECEMBER 31, 2011

Method Level


3 4 4 4 3 1 16

2 108 51 90 195 149 18 611

1 114 22 100 14 250



Certified Level 3 Clients: 16 Certified Level 2 Clients:395




JANUARY 1, 2010 - DECEMBER 31, 2010

Method Level


3 3 3 3 9 2 20

2 69 40 88 216 156 13 582

1 87 14 102 19 222



Certified Level 3 Clients: 20 Certified Level 2 Clients: 513




4 NDT C.B. – Statistics:

Certificate Renewals

2012 NDT RENEWAL WIND UP A total of 1974 individuals with the family name starting with the letters G-M were to renew

their NDT certifications by December 31, 2012. Renewal notices went out mid September 2012.

As of May 3, 2013, 1763 individuals renewed at least one of their certificates. Thus 211

individuals failed to renew at least one of their certificates. This is an attrition rate of

10.6%. Note: We continue to receive renewal information daily and this rate may

continue to decrease.

Note: The attrition rate for the year before (2012) was 10.1%, and the rates in the previous years

were 10.9 for 2011, 11.7% for 2010, 11.7% for 2009, 15.0% for 2008, 14.5% for 2007, 15.8%

for 2006, and 13.5% for 2005.

NDT Certificates not renewed by May 3, 2013

Method Level


3 7 3 5 6 1 22

2 36 35 45 133 108 12 369

1 71 20 55 2 2 8 158

Total NDT non renewed clients:

211

22

: 333

87

Total NDT + XRF certificate drop: 549 Total 107

62

103 140 116 21 549

NDT Certificates not renewed by April 30, 2012

Method Level


3 4 2 5 4 0 15

2 41 26 96 91 9 263

1 1 17 48 10 76

Total NDT non renewed clients:

160

15

: 263

75

Total NDT + XRF certificate drop: 354 Total 1 62 76 101 95 19 354

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Administration & Client Service:

Update

Program priority

Providing expedient and high quality client-service nationally

Updating and improving program delivery and policies

Full website restructure (http://ndt.nrcan.gc.ca)

Enhanced usability and accessibility

Improved organization of information / documents, structured by

specific program

NRCan / CGSB 48.9712 NDT Personnel Certification

NRCan / Health Canada Portable XRF Operator Certification

CNSC CEDO Written Examination

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Program Updates

Refreshing and Rebuilding the fundamentals

Establishing resources (after relocation from Ottawa to

Hamilton)

Stakeholders & Industry Engagement

Improved relevancy and transparency in decision-making

and program interpretations

Establishment of Scheme and Technical Committee(s)

For the ongoing maintenance and further development of the national

program, stakeholder consultation and industry participation will be

the key fundamental philosophies for the program - Inputs from

Industry and Experts

First inaugural meeting to be held during Oct 22-23, 2013 at Trois-

Rivieres (in conjunction with the CGSB 48/2 Committee meeting)

Updated and Improved XRF Version 4 will be launched

very soon

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Structure - Committees

CanmentMATERIALS (CMAT)

NDT CA Advisory and Scheme Committee

CMAT NDT CA Advisory Members:Recommendations provided directly to CANMET-MTL Directorate

NDT CA Scheme Committee Members:Immediate Agenda Topics:

Recertification Implementation

Further Structure Development

Sectoring Review: Broad Sectors vs. Specific, Additional methods for AS?

NRCan National NDT Certification Agency

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

PT

Special Committee::

Official

Languages

Supports

Supports

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

MT

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

VT(Proposed – for review)

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

UT

(+ Advanced)(UT-PA SubTaskgroup)

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

ET

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

RT(Digital RT ?)

CanmentMATERIALS (CMAT)

NDT CA Advisory and Scheme Committee

CMAT NDT CA Advisory Members:Recommendations provided directly to CANMET-MTL Directorate

NDT CA Scheme Committee Members:Immediate Agenda Topics:

Recertification Implementation

Further Structure Development

Sectoring Review: Broad Sectors vs. Specific, Additional methods for AS?

NRCan National NDT Certification Agency

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

PT

Special Committee::

Official

Languages

Supports

Supports

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

MT

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

VT(Proposed – for review)

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

UT

(+ Advanced)(UT-PA SubTaskgroup)

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

ET

Technical Committee

/ Taskgroup:

RT(Digital RT ?)

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ISO 9712:2012 – CGSB Adoption

Updated Rules of Implementation

Clarifications for Recertification

CAN/CGSB 48.9712:2013 & Updated Rules of Implementation –

Preview and Some Highlights of Proposed Requirements

For RT-only: Radiation Safety Training

The candidate shall complete a minimum amount of radiation safety training provided by an

Accepted Training Organization.

Rationale: in section 7.2.4, reference Table 2, “Note: For RT, training hours do not include radiation

safety training.” This leaves a significant gap in the training requirements for a critical subject

matter, and should be addressed with an appropriate minimum requirement.





8. Minimum Period of Experience Prior to Examination

NRCan to define meaningful % experience prior to Practical & Written Examinations

For Written Examinations:

a) Level 1: TBD (0%?)

b) Level 2: TBD (0%?)

c) Level 3: TBD (25%?)

For Practical Examinations:

a) Level 1: TBD (25-50%?)

b) Level 2: TBD (25-50%?)

c) Level 3: TBD (25-50%?)

Rationale: This is needed to satisfy the requirements under 7.3.1. The minimum period required should be meaningful and provides the basis for valid on-the-job type industrial experience. Some CGSB committee members suggested that even at 100%, the certification process has worked well in the past.



7. Validated Attestations of Experience

a) Employer: On the updated application form, each level of reported experience (trainee, Level 1 and Level 2) will be attested to in writing by the candidate’s Employer.

b) Supervisor: On the updated application form, each level of reported experience (trainee, Level 1 and Level 2) will be attested to in writing by the employee’s Supervisor.

c) Sponsor: To protect the attestation from Supervisors/Employers ‘who will sign anything’, a Sponsor (CGSB certified Level 2 or 3) must co-sign the attestation of the various levels of experience.

In special situations, (for example: self-employed work status, or other misc situations, etc.), special accommodations may be granted on a case-by-case basis by NRCan, provided that supporting written attestations are available.

25% Verification: As a general process guideline, NRCan will verify the claimed experience of 25% of applicants.

Questionable experience: If the experience claimed is questionable, NRCan will perform a detailed assessment and investigation, and may also further verify the experience.

Rationale: To protect the integrity of the certification scheme and properly validate the attestation of experience from unscrupulous Supervisors, a Sponsor (CGSB certified Level 2 or 3) must co-sign the attestation of the various levels of experience.

Should the claimed experience be revealed as false, NRCan can take disciplinary action against those certified individuals who falsely attested. E.g. That’s why a sponsor is required; as other non-certified individuals are not signatories to the NRCan Code-of-Conduct.





14. Accommodation Process for Foreign candidates

a. Training: A foreign candidate, claiming previous training, will be directed to an accepted training organization of his choice, where he must pass the training organization's tests for:

i) Basic Math

ii) Materials & processes, and

iii) NDT method(s).

NRCan will accept as proof of adequate prior training, a certificate issued by the accepted training organization stating that the candidate had passed these tests (i, ii, iii).

Note: The candidate does not have to take the training courses - just the tests. The candidate gets two tries at the tests. In the event that the candidate cannot pass the tests, the candidate must take the necessary training course(s) appropriate to pass each of the tests.

NRCan will treat both national and foreign candidates the same way. All must produce a certificate from an NRCan accepted training organization stating the candidate has passed the training organizations test for basic math, the test for materials and processes and all tests pertaining the NDT methods/levels in which he/she seeks certification.

b. Experience: A foreign candidate, claiming previous experience, will be required to meet the same requirements as national candidates. In cases where the experience is questionable and/or difficult to verify (previous supervisors reside in a foreign country, NRCan-certified sponsor not available), NRCan will further assess the submitted claims of experience.

c. Certification: NRCan will assess the submitted claims of certification of a foreign candidate. His certifications may be acceptable proof of prior training and experience and NRCan may allow him to proceed to full or partial examination. On the other hand, the foreign candidate may be required to demonstrate training and experience as per item 14 a.) and b.).



Recertification – Strategic Approach

CGSB 48/2 NDT and NRCan Scheme Committee: NRCan to proceed forward in providing an implementation that complies with the requirements in the 9712 standard

Considering the associated financial and logistical challenges, NRCan is taking a very careful approach in finalizing the details of recertification. Various elements are being adjusted and optimized for our national needs.

E.g. the selection and refining of applicable test specimens, the coordinated scheduling and availability of examinations, a gradual transition through phase-in of expiry dates, etc.

The desired goal is a mandatory recertification process that is consistent, unbiased, credible, and places the least amount of undue stress on the industry, the users, and the certified personnel.

Note: a voluntary recertification program via practical examination has been available for those seeking full compliance with respect to the recertification element in the ISO / CGSB 9712 standards. Some individuals who are certified under the current NRCan / CGSB scheme have

already been successfully recertified under this provision.

Going forward: an Effective and

Achievable Implementation Plan

Flexible options to achieve efficient and effective recertification compliance is being considered - Mechanisms to minimize cost and disruptions:

Practical examination specimens for recertification

Number of specimens: 1 to 3 test pieces depending on Method/Level/Sector

Optimized selection and grading criteria for recertification exams

Not treated or graded as initial certification exam

Options for examination locations

Current network of Authorized Examination Centres (AECs)

Special Examination Centres for Recert (i.e. On-Site locations)

To allow registering of on-job-site locations as special examination centers (i.e. ref section 5.4.2)

Procedures and control mechanisms will be incorporated to deal with potential conflicts of interest

May be eligible to piggy-back onto other task-qualification or performance-demonstration

“Recertification examination kits” to be made available for Special Examination Centres or other viable examination proctoring locations

Combine mandatory recertification roll-out with extended renewal cycle (changeover from 3 to 5 years)

Transitional phase-in of 5-10 years from start of mandatory program – grace period

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Training and Examination

National Forum for NDT Certification Training and Examination was held on May 2nd, 2012 at Hamilton by NRCan Participation from Accepted Training Organizations (ATOs), Authorized

Examination Centres (AECs), and other interested parties (scheduled in conjunction with CGSB Standard Committee)

Technical Workshops/Seminars were provided by NRCan Staff & Examiners + with Open Discussion Sessions with All Participants

Plan for next one in 2014

Priority: Improve communication, support and requirements to Training Organizations and Authorized Examination Centres Quality, Consistency, Effectiveness

Fully updated requirements and guidelines for ATO’s and AEC’s is being developed and implemented

Will be addressed and finalized via NRCan Scheme Committee

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Upcoming Scheme Topics

Evaluate and provide recommendations on key

processes and documentation/requirements in

support of maintaining and further developing our

quality management system

Priority topics / Items:

Recertification

Accepted Training Organization (ATO) Requirements

Authorized Examination Center (AEC) Requirements

Minimum Experience Requirement Before Examination

Confirming Sector Definition

Certification process: improvements for the

administrative scheme and client-service aspects

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Summary

Properly implementing the updated CGSB/ISO standard is critical

NRCan will be very cautious in implementing updated requirements,

and where possible, provide effective alternative options to support

the industry and certification candidates.

Clarifications for the transition to the updated standard will be

available on our website when details are locked-in.

We’re entering a new chapter for how the certification scheme will

be maintained and improved going forward

Many opportunities for inputs from stakeholders and the industry.

Your ongoing support is essential and much appreciated.

The Canadian CGSB / NRCan system is here to serve you.

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Thank you! NRCan NDT website for program info & updates

http://ndt.nrcan.gc.ca (English)

http://end.rncan.gc.ca (Français)

Seize this opportunity to better shape and tailor our

Canadian program to best satisfy the needs of our

industry. Working together, renew and refresh our

Canadian system to be best-in-world & best-in-class!

[email protected]

http://ndt.nrcan.gc.ca/

http://end.rncan.gc.ca/

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QUESTIONS?

DISCUSSION

FEEDBACK

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ADDITIONAL / BACKUP SLIDES

NDT Personnel Certification

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Considerations

Credibility

National

International

Long-term (Impact: 6-8 year cycles)

System Integrity

Part of a world-wide evolving and continually improving system

Foundation for Growth in Recognition

Confidence

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Technical Areas of Interest

Advanced Ultrasonics - Phased-Array Ultrasonic Inspection (UT-PA) Program UT-PA: confirmed need for national certification

NRCan will implement a program for UT-PA within the next 9-12 months

Program details to be further developed through Technical Committee structure

Ongoing Evaluations to Support Additional Technologies Digital Radiography – Updated body of knowledge

Visual Inspection (VT)

Etc.

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Documents

NRCan/CGSB Certification of NDT Personnel: Program … · NDT C.B. – Yearly Statistics 3 Certificates Issued PERSONNEL CERTIFIED EACH YEAR ± 2012, 2011, 2010. JANUARY 1, 2012 -