28
Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Embed Size (px)

Citation preview

Page 1: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Knot test developmentCEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348

Peter Svane

Coating Consultancy

Copenhagen

Page 2: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Contribution to knot test development

• Starting point Doc. N.303

• Try test method

• Is an internal standard useful?

Page 3: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Coating systems

• 9 WB systems (primer + acrylic paint)

• SB Polyurethane paint (Internal reference)

Page 4: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Exposure time in QUV

Days exposure in QUV - Delta E for Primer 1

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

16

Del

ta E

1 day

2 days

3 days

A - acrylic B - alkyd/acrylic E - long oil alkyd F - polyurethane

Page 5: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen
Page 6: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Knots

Page 7: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

B-knots vs. C-knotsAverage. B- vs. C-knot - primer 1 - 3 days in QUV

0,0

5,0

10,0

15,0

20,0

25,0

Del

ta E

B

C BC

B

C

BC

A - acrylic B - alkyd/acrylic E - long oil alkyd F - polyurethane

Page 8: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

B- vs. C-knots

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

0 1 2 3 4 5 6

Del

ta E

B-knots

C-knots

System A

Page 9: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Polyurethane

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

0 1 2 3 4 5 6

Del

ta E

C

B

C- vs. B-knots

Page 10: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Time between machining and coating

12,2

8,7

5

6,6

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16

Døgn

Del

ta E

Page 11: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Shellac or not

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

0 1 2 3 4 5 6

Del

ta E

K

K

K K

K

B

BB

B

BShellac

No shellac

Page 12: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Gruppe 5. PU vs. acrylic

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

0 1 2 3 4 5 6

Del

ta E

K

KK

K

K

BB

B

B

B

PU

Acrylic

Page 13: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

”B-knots”

”C-knots”

Reference

Test system

Matched panels

Suggested setup using matched panels and an internal reference coating

Page 14: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Colour measurement on knots"Worst" vs. mean

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

19 B 19 K 78 B 78 K 79 B 79 K 164 B 164 K 165 B 168 K

Del

ta E

"worst"

Coating system A

"mean"

Page 15: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Primer 1 vs. PU

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

1 2 3 4 5 6

Del

ta E

PU

Acrylic

Page 16: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Primer 3 vs. PU

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

1 2 3 4 5 6

Del

ta E

PU

Acrylic

Page 17: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Primer 4 vs. PU

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

1 2 3 4 5 6

Del

ta E

Acrylic

PU

Page 18: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Primer 5 contra PU

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

1 2 3 4 5 6

Del

ta E

PU

Acrylic

Page 19: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Comments

• Conditioning: 50 %RH → 65 %RH• Weather-Ometer → QUV (?)• Panel dimensions acc. to exposure apparatus• Black panel temp. 60 °C → 40 °C (?)• Time from machining to coating strongly influences

staining• Time from machining to coating: 2 weeks• Staining should be measured as the worst

discolouration on a knot• Internal reference concept works, but is it

worthwhile?

Page 20: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Consequences

• Doc. N 303 revised

• Present version is N 341

• Further experiments

Page 21: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Primer 6 vs PU

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

Del

ta E

Primer 6

PU

Page 22: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Primer 7 vs PU

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

Del

ta E

P

Primer 7

Page 23: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Primer 8 vs PU

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

Del

ta E

Primer 8

PU

Page 24: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Primer 9 vs PU

0,0

2,0

4,0

6,0

8,0

10,0

12,0

14,0

16,0

Del

ta E

PU

Primer 9

Page 25: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Comments II

• Graphs for test systems and references have the same shape. Often however one knot gives a much different discolouration

• No influence from the type of knot (“B-” or “C-knot”).

• Whether the concept of using an internal reference is useful calls for statistic evaluation

Page 26: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Statistic evaluation

• Ranking according to draft 927-7 (N341):

9 = 6 = 4 = 2 = 1 < 5 < 3 = 7 < 8 9 < 1

• Ranking with internal reference included:

9 = 4 = 6 = 1 = 2 < 5 < 7 = 3 = 8

6 < 2 7 < 8

Page 27: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Conclusion

• Draft EN 927-7:

• Large variation between individual test panels

• Inclusion of an internal standard apparently does not improve discrimination

Page 28: Knot test development CEN/TC 139/WG2 N 348 Peter Svane Coating Consultancy Copenhagen

Suggestion

• Test procedure should be polished

• Round Robin on draft EN 927-7

• Maybe more test panels