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any marketers dont ully appreciate what multichannel means to customers.
Organizations may have multiple channels to serve their customersand those
companies may send messages via direct mail, email, mobile, and socialbut that
doesnt make them multichannel. Interacting through multiple channels is not enough.
True multichannel means using all channels seamlessly in one platorm to create a mul-
tithreaded dialogue that matches customers behaviors across channels.
In this 1to1 Executive Dialogue, industry thought leaders Don Peppers, Founding
Partner o Peppers & Rogers Group, and Richard Burdge, CMO o Thunderhead, will
dene the optimal multichannel approach, discuss why its essential today, and explain
how to create a multithreaded dialogue.
Why is it so important to interact with customers seamlessly across multiple channels?
Richard Burdge: Businesses must embrace the act that consumers are now empowered. In
the past, brands used to be able to control and manage the message. But now that consum-
ers are engaging with one another to give their opinions on brands, brands have really lost
that control. So companies have to deliver what the customer wants.
Its time to examine, build, and execute strategies that create a strong and customer-cen-
tric presence in the marketplace. This might mean that brands need to look at their engage-
ment with customers and reprioritize.
Ill give you a good example. I have a son whos 12 years old. When I come home rom
work hes on the Web. But hes not looking at websites. Hes engaged in social games acrossthe Web with his riends rom school, or hes discussing his math homework, or example.
He never picks up the phone and makes a paid call, and he rarely looks at websites.
I recently shared this with a group o insurance executives. Then I asked, How are you
going to serve my son in 12 years time when he becomes an early-stage customer that youll
want to acquire? He may be looking or auto insurance at that stage, and they may have
inrastructure that wont serve him in the social environment.
It doesnt just apply to young people. One o Facebooks astest growing communities is
women over 55. Brands are going to have to interact with them in those environments, as well.
Lastly, when we examine emerging markets, we nd that people are now using social
banking across mobile phones. Micro nancing and commerce are taking place in an entirely
mConsumers use multiple channels interchangeably; companies must create amultithreaded dialog that maps to customers movement across channels.
ExecutiveDialogue
Featuring Don Peppers and Martha Rogers, Ph.D.
MultichannelPreferences
Keeping Pace with Customers
focus:Communications
Richard Burdge is Chie Marketing
Ocer. With 20+ years market-
ing strategy, communications and
CRM experience in B2B and B2C,
Richard has a successul track
record o driving protable market-
ing programs that deliver growth
and enhance shareholder value.
Beore joining Thunderhead in
January 2010, Richard worked with
organizations including Sky, HP
and Vodaone, on client and agency
sides o the ence. Richards spe-
cialities include digital marketing,
e-commerce and social networking.
Richard Burdge
Recognized or over a decade as
one o the leading authorities on
customer- ocused business strat-
egy, Don Peppers is an acclaimed
author and a ounding partner
o Peppers & Rogers Group, the
worlds premier customer-centric
management consulting rm that
provides clients with world-class
customer strategy, fawlessly ex-
ecuted, or bottom-line impact.
Don Peppers
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ExecutiveDialogue
Featuring Don Peppers and Martha Rogers, Ph.D.
dierent manner where, in some countries,
a text message becomes a contract.
Don Peppers: The interaction that consum-
ers have with other consumers has led to
rising customer expectations. People have a
richer and more ecient experience in their
online dealings with other people, as well as
with organizations and companies, and so
their expectations are that companies will
be able to keep track o the conversation.
Imagine being on Facebook and com-
municating with someone, and then you call
them on the phone and they have no idea
what you said on Facebook. That would be a
totally nonsensical experience when youre
dealing with a human being. Increasingly, to
customers, its nonsensical i thats the reac-
tion they get rom companies they deal with.
What are the possible repercussions or
businesses that are not agile enough
to have multithreaded discussions with
their customers?
Don Peppers: I think it goes to the question
o whether the customer actually trusts thecompany.
Two requirements must be met beore
I will be willing to trust someone. First, I
have to trust their intent to act in my inter-
est and not abuse me or abuse my privacy.
But second, I have to be condent that
theyre competent to carry out that intent.
I theyre not competent, it doesnt matter
how good their intention is -- I still cant
trust them. I a business is not competent
enough to recognize me when Im online
as the same person whos ID number wasin use at the call center the other day; or
i you cant call up the receipt at the retail
store or the products I bought online that
Im trying to exchange, thats going to
destroy my condence in you.
Richard Burdge: Dons right, there has to
be trust. I that trust breaks down simply
because an organization cant commu-
nicate in a multichannel way, then the
relationship breaks down.
Were seeing businesses look more and
more to acquire customers through recom-
mendations or advocacy rom their exist-
ing customers. An acquisition wont work
unless the promise is ullled, and that is
reinorced by the advocacy that is coming
rom existing customers.
Youve got to look at your customers and
believe that you can make them advocates
o your service through dierentiation
o the dialogue that you have with them,
make it much more personal, and make
it related to how they behave. I you can
drive that advocacy in your customers,
thats going to uel your acquisitions.
What are the frst steps companies need
to take to create multithreaded dialogues
with customers?
Don Peppers: It really depends on what your
current situation is. For instance, i you
dont have any level o integration among
your various communication channels,
then your rst step has to be to design the
systems and processes that integrate your
actions so that the people at the contactcenter actually have access to inormation
about what happened at the point o sale
or through another channel.
I you have at least some level o system
integration and inormation integration,
then the next step is probably going to be to
break down organizational silos. These silos
grow up naturally in every organization be-
cause whenever you put a unction in place,
you have to put somebody in charge o that
unction, and that helps create a silo.
Once the systems can communicate with
each other, then you need people to commu
nicate with each other inside your company.
What are the key challenges that deci-
sion makers must overcome to achieve
success in providing seamless multi-
channel interactions with customers?
Richard Burdge: As Don said, all businesses
grow up with silos inside them, and those
silos o inormation, people and data tend
to serve consumers o one particular chan-
nel. So youll get the email group, the Web
group and the mobile group.
But the trouble is, thats not how con-
sumers and customers see themselves. I
dont see mysel as an email customer or
as a Web customer o a particular brand.
I just see mysel as a customer. As a
customer, I just want that experience and
that dialogue to be continuous across all o
those channels seamlessly because Im thecustomer and thats how I behave.
Given the range o devices out there,
this will make it dicult to track audiences.
Marketers need some kind o intelligence in
a single platorm that can understand where
their customers are, what their customers
want, and how they want to be served in
a multichannel way, all while maintaining
management o the brand and compliance
o standards and quality in serving that
customer.
Don Peppers: Another critical area isthe orientation o the business. Orienta-
tion goes to the heart o the attitudes o
the people are who are responsible or
carrying out the processes. Think about it:
You cant write a line o code or a business
rule that ensures employees always try to
delight the customer; your employees have
to wantto delight the customer.
I dont see myself as an email
customer or as a Web customer
of a particular brand.
Richard Burdge,
Chie Marketing Ofcer, Thunderhead
focus:Communications
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How can companies leverage technolo-
gies to help close communication gaps
across siloed unctions and channels,
such as CRM and email systems?
Richard Burdge: The customer really doesnt
care i their data or their inormation is
held in a number o silos or dierent
systems. What they really care about is
how theyre communicated with. So even i
companies have silos, and CRM is oper-
ated separately rom email, or example,
they can layer technology over the top to
close that communication gap and give a
much richer experience to the customer.
A combination o technology, behavioral,
and people change can achieve this, and
this will move responsibility closer to the
ront line and empower customer-acing
sta to become customer heroes. Thats
what the customers want them to be, some-
body who goes that extra mile to deliver ex-
actly what they wantand that means being
supported by a single platorm capability to
deliver that dialogue and service.
How do you manage the compliance
and security aspects?
Richard Burdge: From compliance stand-
point, having the ability to record pertinent
inormation on what companies have
communicated, right down to the para-
graph or sentence with their customers, is
a powerul tool. Having a single platorm
to handle all o these dierent communica-
tion channels or compliance can save your
organization dramatic amounts o time.Don Peppers: I saw a survey the other
day rom a research rm that looked at
call centers in the United States, and it
compiled the national, state, industry, and
union regulations that they needed to com-
ply with. Over 50 percent had to comply
with the Do Not Call laws, 32 percent with
Sarbanes-Oxley, 27 percent with HIPAA,
plus a slew o other regulations. This is a
major task, just being competent enough
to interact with your customers in a way
that doesnt violate regulatory restrictions.
Is there a ormula or achieving the right
balance in company customer communi-
cations between various channels?
Don Peppers: When a customer is par-
ticipating in an integrated conversation,
whats important to you is the customers
impression o the conversation. The con-
versation is not integrated i the customer
doesnt think its integrated. Its in the eyes
o the beholder, and the beholder in this
case is your customer.
The single most important issue is putting
yoursel in the place o the customer, tryingto see your business and all the interactions
that a customer will have through the eyes
o the customers themselves. The more cus-
tomer insight you have, the better prepared
youll be to adopt this customer-oriented
perspective. There is no magic ormula.
What are some recommended best prac-
tices in multichannel communications
with customers?
Richard Burdge: The challenge or organiza-tions will be to integrate social media with
their existing traditional capabilities into
all acets o their business. Businesses will
need to harvest the knowledge gleaned
rom customers through these networks
to deliver customer-ocused communica-
tions, providing relevant inormation and
support where customers want it; the right
message, at the right time and in the right
ormat-over the right channel.
Ill give you a good example. I was talking
to somebody the other day whod purchased
some sotware on-line. They received a
thank you note that read, Were really inter-
ested to hear how you get on with it.
And they thought that the language and
the tonality used to communicate back to the
buyer were interesting. Also, the message
had actually come in a text ormat rather
than through email or direct mail. This
provider had an understanding that the cus-
tomer used multiple channels and behaved
in a multithreaded way. The company also
wanted to ensure it conveyed that they wel-
comed eedback on the users experience.
I think this demonstrates that companies
will have to become increasingly social and
connected with their customers instead o
pushing inormation towards them.
How can companies measure success?
Don Peppers: Customers create all the value
associated with a business. Fundamentallywhen youre trying to measure your suc-
cess, youre trying to measure how much
value your customers are creating.
Customers create value in two dierent
ways. Customers, unlike products, have
memories. They remember you rom event
to event. So how you treat a customer in
one interaction is going to have a direct
infuence on the amount o value the
customer creates, not just in that interac-
tion, but in all uture interactions. So when
you go to measure success, you have to tieyour metrics into your analytics.
And to the extent possible, you have to
try to measure how much their lietime
values are going up or going down on the
basis o the days activities.
Who is doing multichannel well?
Richard Burdge: Best Buy has a really suc-
Customers create all the value
associated with a business.
Don Peppers, ounding partner,Peppers & Rogers Group
focus:Communications
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cessul social media listening program that
takes that critical next step and engages
with the customer.
But it also provides options or custom-
ers to email or call to interact with the
company in whatever manner necessary
to resolve a concern. Its not enough just to
have the interaction. You then have to ol-
low through with the response. And thats
the real ulllment o genuine customer en-
gagements in a multichannel best practice.
In Forresters 2010 Voice o the Customer
Awards, American Express and Dell were
both cited or their active use o customer
data they collect and act on to drive that
real-time customer experience.
Amex increases customer loyalty and cus-
tomer spend by highlighting valuable things
like unused card benets rather than hiding
them away. Theyre not trying to sell custom-
ers up to the next card.
Dell uses its online communitys ratings.
They have an open policy o reviewing all
that inormation and identiying unmet
customer needs. This is eedback or the
business. It generates innovation and ideas
that Dell can respond to en masse, but it
also makes the customers eel that theyre
really being responded to regarding their
individual issues.
Don Peppers: JetBlue has a airly sub-
stantial Twitter ollowing, and when theres
a weather problem or a fight delay, its not
just the deals and one-day ares that go on its
Twitter announcements. The airline announc-
es to the world its delays, and i youre on a
connection to Albuquerque or Long Beach or
wherever, youre going to nd out quickly.
That give and take with customers is
particularly powerul or service companies,
and even more critical or companies that
may have problematic service reputations.
Carphone Warehouse is an independent
phone dealer based in Europe that had a ter-
rible reputation or service. So the company
launched a program called (CPW Cares),
Carphone Warehouse Caresbasically, to
monitor the Twitter space.
Lets say a customer has a bad experi-
ence. She might blog about it, but then
shell tweet out the blog, and its the tweet
that gets picked up very quickly i youre
monitoring the space. And so CPW will
reach out to them and try to solve the prob-
lem. The CPW Cares team has dramatically
reversed what was a terrible reputation.
Its becoming much better, and CPW is
becoming known as a social mediaaware
company, a cutting-edge type company
when it comes to customer eedback.
This is the new marketing, where you
take the perspective o the customer and
where the company is proactively trustwor-
thy. Its proactively protecting the customer
rom making mistakes, or example, and
that is going to be a central element o
customer service in the next decade
proactive trustworthiness, or what Martha
Rogers and I call trustability.n
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focus:Communications
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