John Lear UFO Coverup Revelations

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John is the current owner and operator of the only permitted gold mine

operation Cutthroat Mining Corporation in Clarke County, Nevada. His

efforts to clean up the Treasure Hawk Gold Butte mine won him the state

of Nevada award for excellence in mining reclamation in 1999. John is a

MSHA (Mine, Safety, and Health Administration) and holds a blaster licensefrom the Nevada certified mining instructor from the Nevada State Fire

Marshall.

John's passion for the preservation and documentation of the history of

the Gold Butte has made him a authority on the area.

John has been a resident of Las Vegas since 1994 and was a republican

State Senate candidate in 1980.

John has 4 daughters, 2 grandchildren, and lives with his wife in Las Vegas.- Las Vegas businesswoman, Mary Lee Lear in Sunrise Manor.

In 1988, John met and became friends with Bob Lazar, the government

scientist who worked on the back-engineering of the propulsion system of

the extraterrestrial UFOs at area S-4. That's just outside the infamous and

ultrasecret Area 51.

In March 1989, Lazar took John to an area close to Rachel Nevada where he

witnessed the flight of a flying saucer at the exact time Lazar told him it

would occur.

Two weeks later on another UFO spying mission, John, Lazar and 3 others

were caught by security forces - (that's CAUGHT folks) - and the next day, -

the very next day - Lazar lost his job at the government program for that

breach of security. Lazar has been branded by many as a fraud, a charge to

which John responds, " Those who say that Lazar was a fraud simply don't

know the facts of this incredible 12 month period. I was there - they

weren't."

During the late 1980's, John tracked down and found the Army Intelligence

Analyst who read, probably by accident, the U.S. government report

Grudge 13, which documented the history of the U.S. UFO coverup and

details of saucer recoveries, disposition of their occupants, and handling

(That's HANDLING) of civilian witnesses.

The report included clear photographs of these recovered extraterrestrial

craft and beings - (That's BEINGS) found inside. It further detailed how

recoveries were made worldwide and specially designed transports to

accommodate the craft.

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John spent time poking around other UFO related areas to include Dulce,

Secora, Aztec, Alamagorda, Albuquerque, Los Alamos and Bentwaters

airbase near London.

Since that time, John has learned many incredible and interesting factsabout the solar system and planets including the existence of huge

structures, arches, bridges and domes on the moon, cities on Mars, huge

extraterrestrial ships mining the rings of Saturn, the incredible but secret

agenda of Apollo 17, to the huge rectangular opening in the south massif

of the Taurus-Littrow Highlands called Nansen.

Art Bell continues John Lears biography:

John Lear suspects that Venus does not have the sulfuric acid atmosphere

with an 800 degree temperature that we've all been led to believe andinstead is a planet very similar to ours, but with a similar, but much more

technologically advanced civilization.

John Lear believes that the government has very good reasons for their

continued coverup but refuses to discuss them.

He also believes that the government never, ever intends to released any

UFO information and if forced to say anything, will obscure, tangle and

weave a deceptive lie.

Asked outright if the public has a right to know these facts, John says, "No!

They don't!"

Why?

"Because!" was his admittedly evasive answer.

Then why, after 10 years of silence, is John Lear talking once again, after

almost 60 years, the majority of U.S. population don't believe that Roswell

happened.

"I certainly do not represent a threat to this kind of security", he responds.

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Start of Interview between Art Bell and John Lear:

A= Art Bell

J = John Lear

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A - Other than the fact that we got in touch once again John, I really am

curious. Why! After 10 years, why break your silence now? and Welcome!

J - Thank you Art, You mean I could have said, "No!" ?

A - laughs heartily - Yeah! Too late! laughs again. Yeah! You could have

said, No! Sure! I'm - I'm serious - Why after 10 years of not a peep, why

now?

J - Well you know, the government in charge of this coverup, - uh - works

so well at making your life miserable when you go around talking about

this stuff, that I quit and my life - the quality of my life improved about

200%. But now, the coverup is so well in place, that they certainly would

not be threatened by me going on the radio just once and saying what I

know.

A - Yeah! Well, you lost jobs because of this, right?

J - Yeah - I lost two. I lost one with an airline and one with a government

program that I really wanted. It was with Lockheed, and they went for my

clearance and they were told by the airforce that now - under no

circumstances would John Lear ever get another clearance. Now - I had a

clearance up at the test site for some work I did with Dyn-electron - it was

just monitoring below ground tests from the air with different airplane,

but - uh - that clearance is still there, - not active - but they weren't going

to renew it under any circumstances and they made it plain - so its cost me

a little bit, but I managed to survive.

A - Um - all right! You know - before we launch into the whole spectrum of

things we have to talk about John, uh - when you and I were on the phone

the other day, you began to tell me about 9/11 and I'd really would like to

talk about that. Uh - you have a perspective on the 9/11 thing that people

should at least hear. I mean - everybody can make up their own minds

about it, but you're a commercial pilot and there are certain things youknow. So how about it?

J - Well! This is a sensitive subject, and I told you that I was hesitant to

talk about it.

A - That's why I'm bringing it up first! (Art laughs again)

J - But whoever concocted 9/11, and it certainly wasn't Osama Bin Ladin,

they had two objectives - one was to polarize American's opinion against

Arab-Muslims and number two was to get the United States - trick the U.S.

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- essentially to get Osama out of Afghanistan because Osama - as bad as

he was - he was shutting down all the heroin poppy fields and was causing

a disastrous monetary loss to the illegal drug industry - and last year,

which was a year after we went into Afghanistan, National Geographic did

a special on TV, that ran for several months and documented the 500%increase in drugs flowing out of Afghanistan 'after' we went in there and

eliminated Osama.

A - laughs - They actually did. I recall that. I remember that report! Um - so

you are sort of charging that we went in there after Osama - after Osama

to rescue the drug trade?

J - No! Well - that wasn't what 'we' thought - we were sort of tricked into

doing that. We were tricked into thinking that Osama was responsible for

9/11, but to get a proper perspective on who 'did' the World Trade Center -uh - you have to understand what a magnificent feat of airmanship this

was. It was 'disastrous' and was horrible for this country, but this was not

accomplished by some guys who went to Florida and got some instructions

on a Cessna or a Piper and this was not accomplished by somebody who

had a right seat on a 727.

A - What about simulators? Flight simulators?

J - This had to be accomplished by pilots who got instruction - were taken

to 'honest-to-God' Boeing 757 simulators which is - you know - the 757 and

767 the same cockpit essentially and you get the same rating and whoever

concocted this whole thing knew that on a particular day that airplanes

themselves could be switched because of maintenance problems and by

selecting airlines that had that airplane, they had everything covered.

A - Huh! So it actually took a fair amount of skill to plow into those

buildings?

J - I would say that it took about 200 or 300 hours for each pilot - and we'retalking about . . .

A - 200 or 300 hours? But you mean of simulator time?

J - Of simulator time! They had to learn how to step into the cockpit - and

that's a whole thing - getting into the airplane, but that's separate from

that - they had to get into the cockpit and pull the circuit breaker for the

transponder - sit in the pilot seat, disconnect the auto-pilot from the flight

management system - turn the airplane, push the throttles all the way

forward, find Manhattan - then line up on a pre-planned course - doing 10

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miles a minute - they were clocked by air traffic control doing 600 miles an

hour at 700 feet above the ground and fly directly into the middle the

center of the World Trade Center. Now that - you know and the air races

only fly 400 miles an hour and that's difficult - but to fly an airliner like the

size of a 757 at 700 feet - I mean that took some skill and that took a longtime to train that - probably a year.

A - That's wild (unintelligible)

J - In addition to that - hitting the Trade Center was a feat - but hitting the

Pentagon was even more of a feat because when you are going that fast

there is a tremendous amount of air creating this lift and as you head

towards the ground, that air reacts against the wing and pushes you up,

so whoever - whoever hit that - trained to hit the Pentagon at the 3rd story

was highly trained because when he came towards the ground - there wasa tremendous amount of lift and you would have to trim forward and push

with an incredible amount of strength to not be pushed up and over the

Pentagon to hit the 3rd story.

A - But what about the plane that went down that didn't make it - that was

probably headed towards the Whitehouse?

J - uh - Well that was shot down by an F-16 out of a base south of New York

and uh . . .

A - How can you be so sure?

J - Well because there were parts found 5 miles away - uh - because there

were eye-witnesses to it being shot down - uh - there is corroborating

evidence somebody who was listening to a cell phone conversation at the

time this was going on who said they heard the rapid - like the ...

described it as a pilot rapidly turning pages - well - that's not what was

happening - that was the cannon fire hitting the fuselage and that's what

accounted for - what they called the 'smoke ' in the air in the cabin - wellthat wasn't smoke - that was the depressurization causing the

condensation.

A - Well so you are saying definitely that you feel it was shot down . . .

J - But you have to understand the governments position - #1 - they

couldn't 'possibly' reveal this information because - you know - it was

something they had to do - the problem was that once the passengers got

control of the airplane there was no way to communicate with air traffic

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control or communicate with whoever was directing the attack for the

airforce.

A - Now you say Osama Bin Ladin wasn't responsible but there are video

tapes showing Osama with his Lieutenant sort of laughing and joking -they didn't expect such a grand result and all that baloney - what about

that?

J - He might have been told at the last minute, but if that's all we've got,

people say 'how come we haven't got him'? But the bottom line is, we don't

want to get Osama - we'd have to put him on trial and other than that

video tape, we don't have a 'shred' - not a 'shred' of evidence against him.

A - Uh huh! Yet, it might be enough in a court of law!

J - In a world court?

A - You might be right! Well! Uh - I don't know - You've shocked me with

some of your views. on the 9/11 business. No question about that! 100's of

hours - Where would they get simulator training like that? - that many

hours . . .

J - Therein lies the problem. Because they 'certainly' couldn't waltz into any

airline in the United States and get that kind of time - I mean most of the

airlines in the US who have 757's use them 24 hours a day and they

certainly aren't in the habit of renting - uh - to unauthorized people like

somebody going in there saying 'Hey! give me 1500 hours of time" - Its

just not going to happen. They would have to find another 757 elsewhere

in the world and if you look around in the Middle-East and there's certainly

none there because at least not in any Arab Country because they have

airbusses - strictly airbusses - They would have to find 757's somewhere

else.

A - How many simulators are there?

J - Well! There are lots of them - but uh - well - not lots of them - but

there's certain around somewhere and they'd have to make a deal

somewhere - obviously they got training because they couldn't do it

without training .

A - But what we've been given by the media - by the mass media - you

know - they were down in Florida - getting a few hours on lighter aircraft -

that doesn't wash at all . . .

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J - No possibility! If you talk to any pilot that knows anything about this

and that was - and that was a feat with the (unintelligible) with the benefit

with 19,000 hours in all the airplanes I've flown including air races - the

Douglas B-26, I doubt that I could have done that the 1st time . . .

A - Really!

J - You are doing a mile every 6 seconds - so you had to learn where to line

up, you know ... which reference points to get - you know - where to be at

a particular time hit that building. It had to be planned for a long, long

time. So this is a tremendous amount of skill, and it took a long time to do,

particularly you know - they probably got somebody who didn't have

thousands of hours - they probably had to train them from the ground up,

and in this case it was relatively easy because they didn't have to learn

how to take off and land - he didn't have to learn how do a single engineapproach - he didn't have to learn to do a (unintelligible) or MBD approach,

or anything like that ...

A - Just hit a building ...

J - Yeah!

Stop for Newsbreak!

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Art continues the interview:

A - A lot of people listening tonight will have no idea of you and the year of

Lazar - a lot of people of course are rather recent listeners and its been a

decade although we have interviewed - I actually interviewed Bob Lazar

not too long ago, John ...

J - Yes! I listened to it.

A - Ah - you did ... You heard it!

J - Yes!

A - Um - it might be really interesting to kind of get that period of time

from you - for all the new listeners - there are so many ...

J - I served some time with Bob a month or so ago. I had an occasion to

ferry an L 10-11 from where it was painted in the south - the name of the

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airport escapes me, but we took it up to Roswell - and as you know -

Roswell is a - there is a huge airport - a repository for old airplanes - not

old - well yeah - old airliners - there must be 200 of them there - just every

kind you can imagine - L 10-11s, 747's, DC 10s, DC 9's ...

A - They are really kept there to avoid erosion that would occur elsewhere

- right - its desert ...

J - Yeah - Mohave is one, Victorville is another - Roswell ... anyway - Well I

went to Roswell - and coming back I took the bus from Roswell to

Albuquerque and Bob picked me up and I spent a few days at his house

and talked about old times and stuff ... and it was interesting, but how I

got into all this was sometime in 1984-1985. I picked up a book "Missing

Time" by Budd Hopkins - ...

A - Of course!

J - and when I read it - I said, "Holy Smokes! This is true!" I mean - it gave

me chills and at that time I was flying with American Transair, and I was

based in New York and I gave Budd a call and ended up over at his house

and uh - I spent a fascinating evening with him and ummm - and that got

me really interested. And then ... Whitley Streiber wrote Communion and

that was even more scary. I remember reading that book - and I went to

the store to get it and I got a call to take a flight from Las Vegas to

Cleveland and I remember flying the 727 on the way to Cleveland and

reading this thing and how scary it was ... but anyway I got interested in

all this ... lets see ... what happened next ... I went on this little tour

around Colorado, New Mexico - checking out all these rumours - it was just

'fascinating ' and then I started to give lectures - and I gave - and at that

time I was on my soap box and ... "We 'deserve' to know this stuff." and at

that time I had no idea how heavily involved the government was in this - I

thought they were really just dismissing it.

A - You went at this almost like an obsession ....

J - It 'was' an obsession... and it almost caused a divorce - because my wife

turned off the phone - I mean - changed my numbers and um - it was a

very - very turbulent time. But anyway, in the summer of 1988, a guy

called up, during all of this turbulence, and he said, "Hey! I'd like to get a

copy of your tapes." I said, "No! I'm out of this. I'm done with it. It's just a

mess.!" He said, "Well! If you ever need an appraisal of your house, I'll

trade you. I'm an appraiser." I said, "I'll tell you what. I need my house

appraised. I'll trade you the tapes for the appraisal."

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A - laughs. "Oh yes!"

J - So, he came over and he brought this guy named Bob Lazar to hold the

measuring tape. Well, we sat down and talked about UFOs and Bob started

this rolling his eyes and Bob said, "I've never heard to much BS in my life."He said, "I worked at Los Alamos. If this were true, I would have known it. I

have the higher clearance." And, you know - people who have a II

clearance say they have the highest. So anyway, over the next few

months, we got together and me and Bob and I kept feeding Bob

information and like about October or November, it became apparent to

him something was going on, and I think there was two or three things I

had said ... One - I had said there was a facility called YY-II - a secret

facility and that's where they keep the live aliens and I mentioned

something else ... I forget what it was - but anyway, his friends at Los

Alamos wrote him back and said, "Indeed there is a YY-II, but that doesn't

mean their's an alien there, but there was a secret area ... but anyway

...Bob decided to re-enter the scientific community and Bob called Dr.

Teller. I was there when he made the call and I reminded Dr. Teller of when

he was at Los Alamos and asked him if he (Bob) could re-enter the

scientific community. Dr. Teller said, "Do you want to work in Livermore,

California, or do you want to work out there at Nellis? Bob said, "I want to

work at Area 51". Tell said, "Let me see what I can do." Well, the next

thing I know is Bob has three security interviews down at EG&G Facility

here and he mentioned to me after the second interview - they said, "Doyou know John Lear, and what is your relationship with him?" Well Bob

said, "Well! I know him. He's a person who sticks his nose where it doesn't

belong." And Bob said when he told them that - what he didn't tell them

that 'he' likes to stick his nose where it doesn't belong.

A. - (chuckles)

J - So anyway, the next thing I know is in December of 1988, Bob shows up

at my house in the evening and sits down. I'm wiped out - sitting down

doing some paperwork and Bob sit in a chair in front of my desk and Bobsays, "I saw a disk today!"

A - Here's where I want to stop you and ask you a quick question - you

know - when Bob first came to you at the point you are talking about right

now, what do you think his motivation was? Because - of course ....

J - Well - he told me what his motivation was. He said, "I saw a disk today".

and I said, "What are you talking about? I said, "Theirs or ours?" He said,

"Theirs!" I said, "Did you go to Area 51?" He said, "Yeah! I just got back!" I

said, "Then what are you doing 'here' Bob? This is fantastic! ...obviously

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they followed you. I said, "Why don't you find out what's going on and

'then' tell me? And he said, "Because you have taken so much flack over

this ...

A - Yeah!

J - ... so much ridicule. I just wanted to tell you that I saw it." That was

his motive.

A - So you think he was coming to you ... privately ... at that point ...

J - Yeah!

A - Just saying, "Look! What you believe ... its true ... I can verify it! It's

true."

J - Right!

A - So, it was just because you're friends. He saw your struggle.

J - Right!

A - And from that point?

J - Well! From that point - uh - you know - he kept - he was ... Well heworked from December 1988 to March 21, 1989, which will always be a

date that we'll always remember and that ... the Tuesday before ... the

21st was a Wednesday. The day before ... I was over to his house and he

said, "Do you want to go and see a disk fly tomorrow?" I said, "Well, how?"

and he said, "I know a place we can watch it and they always test on

Wednesdays at sunset because that is the time this road is least traveled."

So I said, "Okay! Let's go." So Gene Haupt and me and Bob got in my

motor home and I think Bob's wife was with us and we drove up there -

just south of the black mail box, which we didn't know about then.

A - The now infamous black mail box...

J - Right! I set up the telescope and here comes this thing - from behind

the mountains where Groom Lake was and it flitted around and I'm trying

to focus this 8" Celestron telescope which was very difficult.

A - Bad idea!

J - But finally I go tit and I saw a disk that was oriented about 45 degrees

to the horizon and it was glowing - it was yellowish orange and it was

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glowing - and it was settling back down behind the mountains and I said,

"Quick Gene - take a look, (laughs) and as I stepped back from the

telescope, I hooked the tripod leg and go tit off ... off the focus and of

course, there's a big laugh about that - a nd at one time I had those tapes -

all those tapes, but I'm moving out of my house now and I storedeverything in the garage as far as tapes and UFO books, all the documents

and everything and somebody came and stole half of it, including my UFO

books and everything and I don't know who it was and I don't' expect it ...

you know ... I think it was just an accident that somebody took that stuff

and that tape is gone.

A - Well . a telescope of that power would actually give you pretty good

resolution - if you really managed to get it and old the focus ..

(unintelligible)

J - Well, I saw it - it was perfect. No doubt about it.

A - How much could you see beyond a glowing disk, John?

J - That was it!

A - That was it! No further details of the craft itself? Could you even

estimate from distance - the size?

J. - No! So, we stayed around for another couple hours and nothing

happened, os we went home and so the next Wednesday night, I was on a

trip - an airline trip and I couldn't go, but I called Bob and I said, "What's

going on?" and he said, "We're going fishing tonight!", which I new they

were going up to Groom Lake, and uh - which I knew - that night, I think

him, Annie, Wyatt, Keeley, and George Knapp went and that was the night

that George got the film that he got. The third night which was the

following Wednesday- was March 6th. And that's when we went up and we

had all the geiger counters and the cameras and everything and that's the

night we got caught and we were going down the road that accessed tothe back gate of Groom Lake, and I kept saying ...

"C'mon! Lets stop here ..."

A - How close .. how close were you allowed to get?

J - About 10 miles.

A - 10 miles - so you were how far inside that 10 mile point?

J - uh - I think we were about 10 miles and we hand't even come to thesecurity gate - that's way up in the ridge area.

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A - I guess - what I'm getting at - is ... were you in an area where you could

legally be?

J - Oh yeah - absolutely!

A - All right!

J - But we were going further - and I kept saying, "Okay! Lets stop!" and

then we saw some headlights in front of us and I said, "Okay! Let's turn

around. There's no use in trying to push this issue." I said, "We're not

going to be able to get out now," and as we turned around, I forget who

was driving - I think it was Bob's wife's sister, and I said, "Don't get stuck

in the dirt," and se we turned around and we head as fast as we can down

this road and there were these jeeps or vehicles following us and when I

told this story - I said there were 4 and Bob says, "No! There were onlytwo." I forget how any there were... but anyway, we got to a point almost

to the road and we decided they were too close behind us - so we ... Bob

says, "Let's stop. I can't afford to get caught. I'm going to go out into the

desert... you guys can do what you have to do" ... and so we got out.. Bob

went into the desert ... I set up the telescope and these guys pull up - form

a circle - they had guns ... They said, "What are you guys doing?" and I

said, "We're just looking at the stars." and they said, "Well! How come you

were running away from us?" I said, "We thought you might be dopers."

and he said, "Well! We're not", and he said, "We need to see some I.D." Soeverybody had to give their Social Security and their driver's license

number and we were there about 1/2 an hour. They checked everything

and they gave us the briefing, and they said, "We can't kick you off here -

this is BLM land, but we can make it awfully difficult for you if you stay."

And we said, "Okay! We'll go!" and so they leave ... remember this is at

night ... it's extremely dark - wa out in the middle of the desert - and we

had a trunk open which cast a light and I'm loading stuff and we wait

about 15 minutes and Bob comes out of the desert and we sit there

laughing and joking about seeing flying saucers and so on and so on ...

unbeknownst to us - the security team stopped just about 100 yards andthey were filming us and they had a parabolic reflector and they were

recording what we were saying. So, we pack up everything and we go and

get on the road just where it meets 278 - and as we get on the road - I

think its Knights or Lincoln County Sheriff stops us and they pull up and

got the lights going and got the bull horn. He says, "All right! Everybody

out! Put your hands on the car," And so we got out and put our hands on

the car and he comes over and uh - we were there about an hour and

checks I.D. and he was talking to somebody and pretty soon he comes up

and says, "Look! I have only two questions." He says, "One - where's the

gun?" because we had mentioned that Bob went out into the desert with a

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gun - and he says, "I want to know why there are 5 people here and there

were only 4 when security stopped you." And so nobody said anything and

I have to admit that I made one of the monumental mistakes of my life -

and Bob Lazar will never - ever forgive me for this ... but its my nature ...

when he asked for the driver's license, I said, "Mine's in the trunk" and sowe had to open the trunk with all the geiger counters and film in there and

after about an hour hemming and hawing and not giving him an answer -

to anything - he said ... and I remember this officer's name .... its a

French name ... and he still works there for Lincoln County and I see him

from time to time. He says, "Look! I don't know why I've been told to do

this, but I've been told to let you guys go, so pack your stuff and get out of

here." So we packed up our stuff and left ... and the next morning, Bob

got a call from his boss ...

A - If I can stop you, John do you think you were let go - was because of

the Lazar name?

J - Right!

A - Yeah! Okay!

J - They didn't want any more ... publicity ... so the next morning Bob gets

a call from his boss - and he said, "Bob! Don't go to work - I'm going to pick

you up" and he picked him up and drove him up to Indian Springs which is

the center for security for the test site, and they pulled him out of the car

with a gun in his ear and they said, "Bob - when we gave you this security

clearance - it didn't mean that you were supposed to tell 'all' your friends

about the flying saucers - do you want to work here or not?". And he was

non-committal. He came home and told us about what happened. I said,

"Bob - are you going back to work", and he said, "Probably not!" and I said,

"Why?" and he said, "the main reason is ... the last time I went up ..." he

said, "When I got on that boat, I remember getting into that 737 and

getting off and I can't remember what I did up there ... and I can't work

under conditions like that."

Newsbreak:

A - Okay John! We left off where essentially Bob said, "Nah! I don't think I'll

go back to work there ...

J - Yeah! The last thing he said was he could remember getting on the 737

and he could remember getting off, but he couldn't remember what he did

there. ... I had done - so in the next day or so - on Saturday - No .. on

Sunday morning, I had done some interviews with George Knapp - I can't

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remember what the show was called, but we discussed UFOs and

everything and that night he called me and he said, "John! You won't

believe it, but the phones are ringing off the hook here ... People want

more. What can we do for an encore? I said, "Well, maybe I can get Bob to

come on and so that I talked to Bob and that ... and then on Monday nighthe did the news show where he showed them - in 'shadow' telling that

when he worked up there ... working on extraterrestrial craft -

A - Oh! That was a big broadcast.

J - and then a few days later, George Knapp, Bob Stova - who headed

Channel 8 came up and George Knapp said "I have Bob here and want to

talk to Lazar and want to see if he's telling the truth and I wanna' go ahead

with a special." He said, "I need to get Bob Stova's permission. " So we sat

here for an hour or tow and they grilled Bob this way and that and thenfinally Bob Stova said, "Okay! Go ahead and do it," and then George then

did a 6-part documentary on Lazar.

A - Yeah! Very famous documentary - uh ... Channel 8 stayed .. really

stayed very heavily on that and that was it? ...

J - That was pretty much it. Bob gave the Lazar tape which said what he

learned up there and uh - We kept in touch for many years and Bob did

'Desert Blast' every year until he ran 'Desert Blast 13' ... was the last one

that we ran ... that was the largest outlaw fireworks show west of the

Mississippi and uh - we didn't do it again for several reasons - one -

because we did 13 shows with tremendously high explosive displays and

there wasn't one injury. Bob said, We've gotten away with this long

enough - for 13 years - lets bring this to a close ...

A - I've got a computer here and people can send questions as we go along

and somebody is asking, "Well! That proves that Bob knew the schedule

roughly of what was happening up there, but that doesn't necessarily

prove the rest of his story." How confident are you that everything thatyou were told by Bob was right on the money?

J - You know - I'm confident that everything he told me was true and I've

heard that argument also several times ... that he knew the schedule - but

also and that maybe he was just a cook up there - so if he was a cook ...

that means that they told the cooks when they were going to fly the flying

saucers.

A - laughs - Yeah! That's a very good point - a very good point. But I'm

gonna ...

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J - There is no way I can prove all that happened, but I can just say ... "I

believe it!"

A - Of course! And you can say what you believe you saw with your own

eyes.

J - Yeah!

A - Do you have ... How much of an idea do you have with regard to the

capability of the craft you saw fly - ... 'fly' is the wrong word I guess ...

J - Well! Bob said it had tremendous capabilities - it could certainly travel

outside this solar system and go to other solar systems. The fuel - he

worked on the propulsion system. When you go to work there - everything

is so compartmentalized - other than of the original briefing that he gotwhere he learned - he got to where he knew a little of what was going on -

they don't allow you to work on all aspects of it - everything - he had to

pick on e field and his field that he picked was to try to duplicate the

propulsion with present-day technology - and of course its impossible ...

they are hundreds of thousands of years ahead of us and uh .. although we

can understand how it works, there is no way we can contain an anti-

matter reactor .

A - John! Uh... Bob got his hand on element 116. uh - crucial to the

operation of the crafts - of element 116.

J - That is the fuel.

Element 116UuhUnunhexium

Element 116 has no uses as only about three atoms of this element have

ever been made.

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http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Uuh/econ.html

The essentials

Name: ununhexium

Symbol: UuhAtomic number: 116

Atomic weight: [ 292 ]

CAS Registry ID: 54100-71-9

Group number: 16

Group name: Chalcogen

Period number: 7

Block: p-block

Here is a brief description of ununhexium.

Standard state: presumably a solid at 298 K

Colour: unknown, but probably metallic and silvery white or grey in

appearance

Classification: Metallic

An isotope of Element 116 (292Uuh) was identified in the reaction of 248Cm

with 48Ca.

It is very shortlived and decomposes to a known isotope of element 114,

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288114Uuq.

Isolation

Here is a brief summary of the isolation of ununhexium.

Results published on the 6th December 2000 concerning recent

experiments at Dubna in Russia

(involving workers from The Joint Institute for Nuclear Research, Dubna,

Russian Federation;

The Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, California, USA; The Research

Institute of Atomic

Reactors, Dimitrovgrad, Russian Federation; and The State Enterprise

Electrohimpribor, Lesnoy,

Russian Federation) describe the decay of the isotope 292Uuh

(produced in the reaction of248Cm with 48Ca) to 292Uuq.

24896Cm + 4820Ca 292116Uuh + 4 n

This decayed 47 milliseconds later as follows to a previously identified

isotope of elements 114, Uuq.

292116Uuh 288114Uuq + 42He

Historical information

Discovered by: Yu.Ts. Oganessian, V.K. Utyonkov, Yu.V. Lobanov, F.Sh.

Abdullin, A.N. Polyakov,

I.V. Shirokovsky, Yu.S. Tsyganov, G.G. Gulbekian, S.L. Bogomolov, B.N. Gikal,

A.N. Mezentsev,

S. Iliev, V.G. Subbotin, A.M. Sukhov, O.V. Ivanov, G.V. Buklanov, K.Subotic,M.G. Itkis, K.J. Moody,

J.F. Wild, N.J. Stoyer, M.A. Stoyer, R.W. Lougheed, C.A. Laue, Ye.A. Karelin,

and A.N. Tatarinov

Discovered at: Dubna, Russia

Discovered when: 2000

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A - The fuel ... did he ... you remember ... you don't have to answer these if

you don't want to, but did he bring element 116 to our home?

J - No! It was at his house.

A - It was at his house ... you saw it yourself ...

J - Yes!

A - Huh! ummm - what became of the ... element 116 that he possessed?

J - No comment!

A - No comment! Okay! Um... Let me ask you something easy ... maybe its

not easy ... umm... you are a pilot ... you've been a pilot all your adult life Iguess... correct?

J - Yeah!

A - Something a lot of us wonder.. is .. how many pilots see these craft? -

uh - a lot of people ... I've noticed something John, we get a lot more UFO

sightings - when Mars is getting close and people are paying attention to

the sky ... most people go around - pay attention to what is in front of

them - or the road or whatever - they have to - they don't spend a lot of

time looking at the sky ... ah - but pilots do - they spend a lot of timelooking at the sky and many of us wonder - how many pilots actually see

these things?

J - That's really a misconception - because when you are a pilot and flying

an airplane - particularly in this day and age .. you are concentrating on

what is going on inside the cockpit - during the nighttime - even if you

have the lights turned down - there is no way you can see out the windows

- I mean- you can press our eyeball against the window and see stars but

its not like you can sit in your normal piloting position and see outside ...

you can't. And then during the daytime - uh - you know ... your attention

isn't outside - I mean - you look out occasionally from time to time - so

most of your concentration is inside - you are talking to the air-traffic

control - you're monitoring the instruments and paying attention to flying.

A - so then ..

J - But - but - so in answer to your question ... how many many people see?

... not many. I've heard some stories of guys who see stuff outside and of

course, I may have been a little different. I spend a lot more time lookingoutside - um - I remember one of the last flights I made with a cargo airline

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and where its very late at night and I'm looking out ... I see this thing go

streaking across the sky and go straight up and I thought ' oh gosh, I wish

the crew had seen that so then I didn't say anything - and then it

happened again and then I thought - well Gosh - maybe it'll happen again,

so I said, "Hey you guys - look at this ... and it happened three more times.I was - I don't know what it was .. it came streaking about 1/2 way across

the horizon, directly over the airplane and then shot straight up ...

A - Uh - (at a loss for words) uh - okay! There is a milliion things I want to

ask you about, for example: uh - Richard C. Hoagland, in the early years

had some shocking stuff, he said about things that are on our moon - just

incredible things - tall spires, structures and buildings and things - just

incredible stuff - and people laughed - they ought not be laughing at that,

huh?

J. No! Richard C. Hoagland inspired me to look into that and I ordered some

prints from NASA and of course - when you order picures of the moon from

NASA, and they don't come from NASA - there are three separate places

where they come from and to go back to the middle 60's when NASA really

realized what was going on, they had the lunar orbitor series - there were

five camera ships they sent to the moon with fabulous detailed

photographs of the moon - and when they came back, they were chock full

of these buildings and arches, domes, and buildings and of ... you know ...

there were people who spent their entire careers airbrushing this stuff outand then taking a picture of 'that' picture and that's what you would get

for public information and thats the picture that got sent out to the pubic.

Once in awhile you could order a picture and they forgot to airbrush - or

they didn't know it, and one thing they could never have imagined in the

60's - that in the 90's computer technolog would make it possible that we

could scan a photograph like that and enlarge it and find the airbrush

marks and find stuff that they didn't see - looking at the print. You can go

right down and see little tracks and all kinds of stuff.

A - So - you think they're just erasing this stuff, they have been erasingstuff like crazy - to protect us from the truth?

J - Well yeah! They are having a really hardtime keeping this stuff from

the public. I mean, every time you send something to Mars, something

happens, it doesn't work, they have an accident. etc. We sent Clementine

to the moon, it took all these fabulous pictures and it spun out of control

and the guys at NASA think - you know - can we do this? Do you think the

public is going to fall for this every single time? And some guy would say,

"Well! They have so far and ...

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A - Well then - you've been following Richard's career to some degree?

J - Absolutely! What a guy!

A - All right! Like a year ago, John, he suddenly came up with thesephotographs of Mars and you know I've done qite a bit of flying - I'm surely

not a pilot - but you know - when you look at these photographs - the more

recent ones of Mars - even I sat here and went, "Oh my God!" - it's like I'm

looking down - on a damn city - like a city - it looks like a city from the air

and buildings everywhere - square shapes that don't make any sense on

Marts from pictures that were imaged just below the surface. I don't know

if you'lve seen these or not - have you?

J - Which ones are we talking about?

A - Umm - they're fairly ... within the year ... recent pictures - withi a year -

imaged kind of - some of the ...just below the ground - you know

J - Yeah! Yeah! sure ...

A - My God! they ...

J - You know - there are some taken above the ground that are equally

fascinating.

A - They are ...

J - We are running into the same thing with Richard that we run in with

UFO people as ... Everyone believes their own research, but when they

hear another story ... "Oh that guy is full of B.S.!!" and uh - so you kind of

have to do your own - as you research this. Now the last thing I came

across ... have you seen the city of Tithonia? Cydonia

A - Yes!

J - Okay! now that stuff is fascinating. I called up that guy at Redstar and

said, "Send me that stuff - and what is so fascinating about it - is I don't

know if you can do this today, but you used to be able to go to Malin Space

Systems and download it - the film - yourself and look at it yourself - you

didn't have to go buy a CD.

A - Yeah! - Its incredible stuff. I mean - to me - from the air - it looks very

city-like. John that would imply a gigantic civilization at least at one time -

was on Mars - without question!

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J - Yeah! When Bob was wrking at the test site, one of the things he saw

was close-up views of Cydonia - they were taken at very close range - he

said that the pyramid on Cydonia - you could see doors and windows

and ... you know - there was no doubt - that was a place where somebody

lived - and so - he and I had an occasion to drive down to LA - to pick uphis jet car and when we were down there - we drove over to JPL and we

wetn to see the guy - who was head of - um - was it Voyager that went ...

I've lost my memory - what was the name of the ... was it Voyager II? that

went to Mars?

A - Well! It was Voyager!

J - Okay! So we went to see the guy who was head of Voyager imaging and

we said - "Bob has been up to Area 51 and Bob saw these close up photos

and um - but the photos which are released to the public - we don't seethis particular photo " We said, "This photo we saw was taken at a very

low altitutde, uh - and at a specific angle," and we said, "Did ... was

Voyager ever tasked - sent at a lower angle to take pictures and the guy

said, "As a matter of fact, we did task it to go lower, but we didn't take any

pictures."

A - (Art chuckles)

J - Now here's the beauty of this thing and this is how a coverup works - he

knew that it went lower, but even he didn't have a high enough clearance -

even though he was head of imaging - that that picture was taken.

A - Uh - John - why do you think that all of this is being withheld from us?

The whole thing - why? Why are we being protected from this

information? I mean ... On the one hand, people call us and say ...'I can

take it ... " the fact that Brookings said that peeople would be disturbed

and all that baloney ... I want to know." So the question is , who are we not

being allowed to know? Why? Why keep it all secret?

J - The answer is - and that isin the form ... I'd like to do soemthing with

you , but we'll need a good 10 or 15 minutes because what I'm going to do

is say ... "Art Bell - the government has chosen you because of your vast

experience with th epublic and what you think they can handle and we

decided - that we are either going to release all this information or not -

but we are going to tell you everything we know and you decided - Yay or

Nay!"

A - Yeah!

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J - and that this would be 'YOU' Art Bell - it will you YOU!

A - Yeah! I would think that I was being set up - John!

J - Really!!!

A - Yeah! Big time set up -

J - When we have 10 minutes of clear time - I have written the briefing you

are going to get from the government and then after that briefing - that

comes with slides and videos and of course you can't see them, but I'll talk

you through them and then after ou see them - I'll say - Art - Yay or Nay!!

A - while laughing - Art says - So you are going to give me a briefing, huh?

J- Yes!

A - Okay! We'll do that in a few minutes. - uh Apollo 17 - Apollo 17 - or will

that - can you give us a brief - I mean - was there some mission with

regard - was there something about Apollo 17 that wasn't fully public?

J - Yes! Apollo 17 landed in the Taurus Litrow area, (see above at the

beginning of this interview) which is extremely dangerous - um - there is

mountain peaks that go 8 to 10 thousand feet - a round area - but what

they were tasked to do on the second day was to go to Nansen and Nansenis a large, obvioiusly constructed opening inside the south masif and they

wanted to take a look at it - so essentially its been covered up, but thereis

a website where you can read the whole thing, see the pictures of Nansen

- you get exact - what the astronauts said, which its very, very interesting

what they said - uh - what I'll do at the end of ths broadcast - I'll going to

e-mail you about 10 or 15 websites - that we are talking about - that you

can pass them on if you wwnat - and maybe you can look at Apollo 17 and

Project Redstar and all the rest of them.

A - All of this - uh - an Apollo mission - our space proram in genereal - How

much of this would have to be hidden? Now - of course its worth

mentioning - that we have not gone back to the moon ... not with men as

one would have expected by now ... or Mars or anything else ... its like ...

its kind of like ... I don't know - were' being kept home.

J - Right! We were told to stay away - we were given that edict by the

aliens - they said, "You will NOT come back here - and ... i'm not sure

exactly which particular Apollo series it was and we said, "Look! We've got

all these Saturn 5's - it will be hard to keep that from the public," and theysaid "Okay! - one or two more and 'that's it!" Apollo 17 was the lsat one

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and the NASA excuse was , "We don't have any more funding and we can't

do it and they have - still had 3 remaining Saturn 5's fueled and ready to

go and they were 18, 19, and 20.

A - The threat - that stopped us - what was the 'or else' part?

J - It was just '"or else" and you know - I don't know exactly what was said,

and I didn't talk to anybody who heard the threat - it was just enough

threat - that "Don't come back here - you're not welcome."

A - Yeah!

Newsbreak

A - laughing - I've been set up before , but it doesn't hurt to listen -laughing - you know - its kind of interesting - over the years of doing this

program, - so many years now - I've often wondered why I've been allowed

to do it at all (laughs) so let's say the government chose me - they were

going to use me as an outlet to release this information - lets just say they

did that and they took me to a briefing ...

John Lear's Disclosure Briefing

As presented on the 11/2/03 show:

Art Bell: Let's say the government chose me. They were going to use me as

an outlet to release this information. Let's just say they did that and they

took me to a briefing. Then what John?

John Lear: They whisk you to Washington, DC, you get limo-ed to this

building, beautiful building, you go up into this room. They say, 'Art, you're

the guy and if you give us the go ahead, we are gonna release everything

we know to the public. If you decide to go ahead, all major networks will

be provided with information on all aspects of the cover up and no type of

information will be withheld. Because of the deal for immunity for all

participants of the cover up provides that nothing, no artifacts, no piece of

information be withheld.'

So here's what happened, Art. We'll use some videos and stills. Our first

UFO recoveries were in the late '30s. We made a couple in the beginning of

the '40s and then came Roswell, which the public found out about. We got

2 live aliens from Roswell. One died shortly there after and one lived till

1956. And we found out so far there are 18 different alien species that we

know about monitoring Earth. Some are good and some are hostile, mostare indifferent. We found out that we are the experimental product, if you

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will, of an alien race who we never met and we don't know who they are.

All we know is that the Greys are cybernetic organisms, glorified robots if

you will, who work here at the behest of their employers monitoring us

through abductions. We were never able to find out what the experiment is

all about except that we have been externally corrected about 65 times.And they, the aliens, refer to us as "Containers." There's been speculation

that the souls our bodies contain is the reason for the experiments. But

nothing's been proven or determined.

Since 1938 we've lost over 200 aircraft due to UFO hostilities and

thousands of soldiers in all kinds of different actions with aliens. Since

that time several hundred thousand civilians have disappeared with no

trace. Several thousand of those were eliminated by us because of their

chance encounters with the aliens which we could ill afford to have

publicized.

A slightly more frightening phenomena known as "human mutilations"

have occurred on a regular basis and are similar to "cattle mutilations". In

that the human or humans are taken from the street, so to speak, and

returned to the same area about 45 minutes to an hour later with their

rectums cored out, their genitals removed, eyes removed from their

sockets, and completely drained of blood. In all cases it appeared that the

mutilation procedures occurred while the persons were still alive and

conscious. One of our scientists speculates that apparently the humanspecimens had to be alive for the samples to be worth anything.

Abductions occur on a daily basis throughout the United States to at least

10% of the population.

When we were first made aware this we protested to the little grey being

we had held in captivity at the YY-2 facility in Los Alamos, but a deal was

struck that in exchange for advanced technology from the aliens we would

allow them to abduct a very small number of persons and we would

periodically be given a list of those persons abducted. We got something

less than the technology we bargained for and found the abductionsexceeded by a million fold than what we had naively agreed to.

In 1954, President Eisenhower met with a representative of another alien

species at Muroc Test Center, which is now called Edwards Airforce Base.

This alien suggested that they could help us get rid of the Greys but

Eisenhower turned down their offer because they offered no technology.

At this point it became apparent to all involved that there was no such

thing as a God, at least how the public perceives God. Certainly some form

of computer recorder stores information and an occasional miracle is

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displayed by the aliens to influence a religious event. This so unnerved

Eisenhower that he had "In God We Trust" put on paper money and coins

and put in the Pledge of Allegiance to reaffirm the public belief in God.

Shortly after this it was determined in meetings between the US and the

Russians that the situation was serious enough that a cold war should bemanufactured as a ruse to divert attention of the public away from UFOs

towards some other scary threat like the H-bomb. It was also decided to

keep the ruse secret from any elected or appointed officials within both

the US and Russian governments as it took so long to vet these officials

and the ruse was easier to manage if the top people didn't know about it.

In the late 1950's NASA was formed to compartmentalize, containerize,

and sanitize information from all space platforms and vehicles. We sold

NASA to the public claiming that all information would belong to them but

they got very little and even that was highly sanitized.

Our first efforts were to keep the public from learning about Venus. A very

similar planet to Earth and it's population is very similar to us just

technologically advanced. We have learned a lot from them starting with

the Russian Venera 1 and US Mariner 2, we made Venus look like a lead

melting, volcanic surface, spewing sulfuric acid into a pressurized

atmosphere 90 times that of Earth. And as often the case we over did it

and we wondered why nobody asked how a parachute survived a descent

into 800-degree air. We set up operations in Pine Gap, Australia topreclude any prying eyes figuring out what we were up to. We regularly

eliminated through extreme prejudice anybody who was part of the

operation and made the least little tiny threat about disclosure or

dissatisfaction with the operation. Any space mission that included

Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, Mariner, Voyager, Clementine, and all the rest. All

data initially came transmitted to Pine Gap then it was relayed to JPL or

wherever after sanitizing. We had a little trouble with amateur radio

operators but we figured out how they could intercept these signals but

we managed to deal with that.

When the Russian threat began to fade we introduced Vietnam which kept

the public occupied for over ten years. The cover up and personnel to run

the operation began to get bigger and bigger and required more and more

money. We were forced to inflate the defense budget, which soon not

enough. Then we got into the drug business which was still not enough.

We were the ones that looted the savings and loan industry and Wall

Street to boot. It is so out of control now most people want immunity and

want out. But there is so much secrecy and so many double and triple

blinds in place that it's unlikely that this thing can ever be dismantled. And

even if you give us the go ahead to spill the beans to the public it's

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unlikely they will get anything more than "yes, we recovered a flying

saucer and yes, there was an occupant" but that's all we're gonna tell ya.

So go ahead and roll the tape for Mr. Bell. What you see here are what

human mutilations look like. That one was a male about 27 years old. Thatone is film of dead aliens being pulled from the wreckage of a craft that

crashed in Olancha, California in the '50s. That craft you see over there

was over 250ft. in diameter and had to be buried on the spot. That site is

in Utah near Dugway Proving Grounds. The object you're looking at now is

the as the Kecksburg Acorn which was brought to Wright Patterson in the

middle '60s. There's Frank Drake trying to force information out of a being

tied down to a stretcher. He was supposedly from Tao Ceti.

These pictures you're looking at now are structures on the Moon. That's

the tower in Sinus Medii and it's over seven miles tall. And that thing overthere is what we call the Colossus of Oguram(sp) in Mare Crisium. We don't

know what it does but the machine itself is bigger than Brooklyn, New

York. Now those are videos of the domes covering the craters. As you can

see, some are in a very advanced state of decay.

Interview with Art Bell, Hoagland/Ken Johnosn

These are 5 second slides of the 18 different alien species we are looking

at. That one there is the most gruesome looking. The guards at one facility

are carefully indoctrinated over several months being shown picturessimilar to but not exactly like the alien. Only when he'd been acclimatized,

so to speak, of the horrible looking beings are they allowed to stand in

security positions. Before these acclimatizations were done, we had two

guards die of a heart attack as the aliens came down the hallway

unexpectedly.

And this last clip is of the Kennedy assassination. You've heard of the

second gunman theory? Well, this is the second camera that recorded

exactly what happened and we had 4 gunmen. And the bottom line was

that Kennedy had to go. He insisted on releasing what little alieninformation we had told him about and he was trying to withdraw troops

from Vietnam which we were using as a diversion for the public. After

Kennedy we never told any President anything. Nixon knew because he

was briefed as VP in 1952. That's how we knew where to take Jackie

Gleason to Homestead Air Force Base to see the alien bodies we had in

storage there.

And that's about it. What say you Art Bell? Do we brief the public? Yay or

nay?"

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A - I guess ... my first response would be - having heard even one quarter

of that information - if I really heard it from a legitimate government

source ... that I was about to be killed ... I would assume I would be in

mortal danger ... I mean - its just - uh - any portion of that information

would get a person killed if they knew it - much less - I - uh - its justludicrous John, I would never be put in such a sitatuion. I would never be

at such a briefing, because such a briefing is never, never and will never

be made - EVER!

J - Well, art! Here's the deal - ... is people want to know - the say, "I can

take it - tell me." I mean - the public can take it - Well - do you want to

release it or not?

A - Now wait a minute - are you saying ... Well - well -they can't - I agree ...

J - You have been given this briefing... the government has decided ...

"Look , We're tired of covering this thing up..."

A - This assumes that I really believe that they would release it as opposed

to killing me! Right?

J - They aren't going to kill you if they give you this briefing - they would

just say - "Here it is."

A - No! Once I said, "No!" "Yes or no" - Well I suppose, "No" Once I said it,

then I'd have to be killed, wouldn't I?

J - No! No!

A - Well - other people have been killed because that was part of your

briefing. +++

J - Yeah! But - well that was just up to 1972 - up until 1972, there was 572

people eliminated from the program because they disagreed wtih the way

it was going, but after 1972, they don't kill them anymore. What they do -

I don't know! I have my suspicions - of what they do!

A - Why do you imagine ...

J - Don't bring that into the argument ...

A - Why do you imagine they let people like you on radio shows like this

and saying these things?

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J - The government ... the coverup is so firmly in place now that its not a

threat to them.

A - It doesn't matter!

J - uh uh! I mean ... how many people are we talking ? It doesn't matter.

People think its interesting and then they go on with their business.

A - All right!

J - My point is, if you knew the whole story, you wouldn't be pushing for

disclosure.

A - No! I wouldn't - of course I wound not! I believe that Brookings was

accurate - In fact I believe even more than that . I spent all these years -getting e-mails and talking to people in the Bible belt - John! I've talked to

a lot of them. I know how the fundamentalists feel... and it would turn us

UP SIDE DOWN!

J - I agree with you. Last night I talked to the guy who is heading up the

Disclosure Project in Washington, D.C. I read him the exact same thing I

read to you ... and he said, "Yeah! Go for it! Let's do it! We have a right to

know" ... and I'm wondering "How can you possibly think like that?"

A - Um! How can he? I've asked thes ame questions.. really I have, and ouget a wonderful speech in return - that also makes sense - you know. You

get the patriotic angle - you get the ... you know ... we're a part of all

that's happening - about these profound issues - they 'so' profound ... we

really have a right to know and the argument 'sounds good' - it really

sounds good. I also know what would happen if this information got out.

J - You're 100% right. And that's how I believe. And they bring up the

argument, "Well! I'm tired of the government lying to us - and that's what

a government does - they lie to us. They lie to us continually - but in this

particular issue - they are correct!

Here are the web links that John Lear provided in support of his data:

vgl.org

rumormillnews.com

keithlaney.com

lunaranomalies.com

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