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Is College Education a Good Investment?
SONG MASHUP“ The Frail ”
by NIN“ Bitter Sweet Symphony ”
by The Verve
Is College Education a good investment?
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
•15.5% graduated in “150% normal time”•23% graduated in 6 years•3% still enrolled after 6 years•1.4% transferred to a new school•19.3% were academically dismissed•The rest withdrew – 37.8%•Stuff here
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
1 in 5 students leave because they can’t handle it “academically”
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
1 in 3 students quit
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
1 in 5 students actually graduate
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
4 year program – 6 years to complete
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
•Full time tuition costs - $3,280•Times 3 semesters - $9,840•Times 6 years - $59,040•Books, housing, transportation•Who takes out the minimum loan?•Does anyone? •Stuff here
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
$60,000 in debt at the bare minimum
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
No worries thoughYou’ll do better with Baker!
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
What’s the promise we keep hearing?
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
98% of graduates are employed
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
•Muskegon is actually 96.7%•Data only counts the first year after
graduating•Also only counts those who reply back•Wait what?•If they can’t get a hold of you,
you’re not counted in the statistic•Stuff here
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
Student Right-To-Know Graduation Rate
•It doesn’t matter what kind of job you have either
•It doesn’t have to be in your field•Oh and it doesn’t include Online campus•98% of graduates are employed, my a$$
(Baker College Handbook, 2010)
(Wang, 2009)
•College tuition up 439%•Medical only 259%•Energy only 108%•Nothing, not even inflation, will stop
the rise of tuition costs
Since 1985
(Matgouranis, 2009)Arizona has highest Loan default rate
Arizona has highest Loan default rate
10.9%
(Matgouranis, 2009)
Isn’t that where the University of Pheonix is?
(me, general observation, 2011)
In 2009, University of Phoenix received $26.5 billion from
government-funded student aid
(Morgenson, 2011)
Tuition is only $333 per credit hour
or $3,996 for full time
(Miley, 2009)
Yet1 in 25 students graduate
UOP online
(Miley, 2009)
Advisors and counselors are told to do whatever it takes to get a student
enrolled and are paid on commission
(Durrance, 2009)
UOP spends $100 million annually including $154 million for the naming
rights of a stadium that doesn’t have a sports team
(Miley, 2009)
Very little revenue is actually spent on improving education
in most for profit schools
(Miley, 2009)
(Irons, 2009)
•In 2007, 3 million students entered repayment for their student loans•12% (400,000) defaulted on their loans
in only 2 years•It takes 9 months of no payment to default•Half of those students who defaulted
attended For-Profit schools•Event though only 1 in 14 students
attend For-Profit schools•Yet 44% of those students defaulted
on their student loans
(Irons, 2009)
•Defaulting on your loan is serious•Your credit is ruined and you become
ineligible for further student financial aid•The government can and will garnish wages•They will also seize your income taxes•They can do this without court order
or any notice whatsoever•Then there are penalties for late payment
and even collection fees•Declaring bankruptcy will not clear
student loans either•Yet 44
(Irons, 2009)
There are only two ways to get rid of your student loan
Pay them off in full
Or die
It’s true that people with a college education will make more
money in their lifetime
(Durrance, 2009)
Except the opportunity costs of going to college will cancel any extra
income you hope to get
(Durrance, 2009)
(Me, ranting, 2011)
•With a minimum job at $22,000 a year•And 6 years it takes to get a bachelors •That’s $132,000.•$132,000 that’s given up to go to college•Which will costs at a minimum of $60,000•That’s almost $200,000 your missing out on
by being in college right now•$60,000 + interest and any fees has to still be
paid back•So
(Me, ranting, 2011)
•That’s about ¼ million dollars•Go ahead and cut that from how much you
hope to make from your college investment•That’s if you get job that pays what you want•Just remember 98% of Baker College
graduates are employed
(Me, ranting, 2011)
There’s only one way college can be a great investment
•Don’t go to For-Profit schools or universities•Don’t over do the loans, take what you need•Try to get/maintain a job while you are in•Scholarships/Grants•FINISH! You’ve gone this far, don’t quit•All joking aside, Baker is a good option•And Baker is a Non-Profit school
•So
You’re a slave to your money
And then you die…
ReferencesBaker College Handbook (2010-2011). Retrieved from
https://www.baker.edu/departments/admissions/currCatalog.pdf Durrance, C. (Producer). (2009, May 12). PBS Frontline. The Madoff Affair.
Retrieved from http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/madoff/view/Wang, P (April 2009). Is college still worth the price. Retrieved from
http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/20/pf/college/college_price.moneymag/Matgouranis, C. (February 2011). States and student loan defaults. Retrieved from
http://collegeaffordability.blogspot.com/2011/02/states-and-student-loan-default-rates.html
Morgenson, G. (October, 2010). For profit schools, tested again. Retrieved from http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/31/business/31gret.html
Mily, M. (September 2009). A lot of branding but not much understanding. Retrieved from http://adage.com/article/news/university-phoenix-spends-100-million-annually-advertising/138849/