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Page 2Just recently, I was browsing thru some

Vancouver newspaper clippings, sent tome by my dad. One article concernedour fellow engineers, out on Point Grey, atbig old USC.

This fall the University of BritishColumbia is adding a course featuringdiscussions of sexism, racism, and othersocial issues to the curriculum of firstyear engineering students. The coursewill feature speakers from the legal andsocial sciences, and will hopefully providestudents with the opportunity to examinesituations from alternative perspectives.

The addition of the course is a directreaction to an engineering newsletterarticle last year. The newsletter featureda fake employment application form forIndians. Needless to say, the form wasintended to be a joke. However, mostpeople, especially Indian folk, failed tofind any humour in the piece. In factsome had to suppress the urge to smasha 2 by 4 thru the theeth of the selfsatisfied ,smirking, brat, who wrote thething, but of course violence solvesnothing. UBC president DavidStrangeway called the piece .absolutelyoffensive, and he continued, It's justdisgusting. It's all bad stuff, but the raciststuff - nobody in our society can toleratethat.

Due to the newsletter article theuniversity has refused to collect fees forthe engineering society. These fees,totalling $32 000, provide the operatingbudget for the UBC engineering society.Distribution of the newsletters oncampus has been banned, and theed itors were required to performcommunity service.

The engineering course arose from ameeting, following the newsletterincident, between Indian representivesand engineering students. The universityhas also added a similar course for firstyear law students, and a change to thefirst year English course is also being

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An interesting little story isn't it

t is a painful time to be in politics inCanada. From federal byelections toprovincial elections, from the federalrid ing of Laurier ISte-Marie to theprovinces of Ontario and Manitoba,established parties are getting thumpedby the voters, each thumping greeted bygleeful cries about how Mulroney, orPeterson, or Chretien was being taught alesson.

Our politicians may not deserve thetrashing they are getting, but they aregetting it. A powerful premier, DavidPcter1ion, was tossed out here in Ontario,and a premier-in-waiting, SharonCarstairs, had her political futureessentially wiped out. These upsetsrepresent the voter s extreme

d ~ n c h n t m e n t with the traditional wayof:doing things in Canada.irhe most commonly heard explanationhas it that voters are looking for a way to

punish the leaders who foisted MeechLake upon the nation, and for a way topunish Mulroney for being Mulroney.It is true that the voters might haveexpressed themselves a bit oddly if that is

The Iron Warrior is a forum forthought-provoking and infonnative article.presented by the academic community ofthe University of Waterloo. Viewsexpressed in the Iron Warrior, other thanthe editorills. are those of the authoR anddo not necessarily reflect the opinions ofthe editors or the Engineering Society.

The Iron Warrior encouragessubmissions from students, faculty andother members of the universitycommunity. Submissions should reflect theconcerns and intellectual standards of theuniversity in general. and should betypewritten or neatly wrilten. doublespaced and on one side of the page only.The authors name, class (if applicable) andphone number should be included.

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suffer from this problem to the degreemany engineedng schools seem to beafflicted. However, I believe that a courseof this nature would be useful toengineering students everywhere.Too often decision makers are unawareof the fu1l impact of their decisions. Ibelieve this to be especially true ofengineers. We are trained to look first tonumbers, equations, physical laws, powerprod u ction, stress, or sched u lingproblems. We fail to notice the entirepicture. We only notice individual brushstrokes.

Ideally, such a course would not just bean ass-covering, engineering ethicscourse, but a general sensitization course.A course pointing out areas of knowledge,ways of life, manners of thinking, andtypes of knowledge which are usuallydivorced from an engineering education.We as engineers must learn how tobroaden our minds and expand oursenses.

The faculty of engineering pays a lot oflip service to the idea of social awareness,but it comes up short. In many waysengineering at Waterloo leads thecountry, and I believe this is another waywe could lead.

Anyway, it's a thought.By the way, if you ve got any ideas ofyer ow n : know a happen in' prof, writing a

short story, reading a hep book, saw afunky show, or yer just thinking thingzwhy not write it down and fire it on in to usat the [ron Warrior (on a Mac disk ifpossible), it'll be fun.Garry dual R action Peterson

what they had in mind: Rae supportedMeech lake; Sharon Carstairs, the bigloser in Manitoba, was one of the accord searliest and most vocal opponents; GaryFilmon, who won in Manitoba, is amember of the Prime Ministers ownparty. But that is petty carping. Theprevailing theory is that the voters,alienated by politics and politicians, castabout desperately for a way to punishthose responsible, wiht the results wehave seen in the past few weeks.Without accepting the theory totally-it isjust as plausible that Ontario voters votedfor the NDP because they liked themthe idea of general voter discontent haspoliticians frightened. When, during theOntario election TV debate, the threeleaders were asked to comment on analleged public perception of allpoliticians as sleazy, not one of the threestopped to defend his profession.Instead, they chose to blame the other forthe sleaze factor. This indicate s that theydidn t want to go against what theysensed was a cynical publit mood.

However, politicians, for the most part,All submissions. unless otherwisestated, become the property of tho hsUlWarrior. which reserves the risht to refusepublication of material which it deemsunsuitable. The Iron Warrior also reserversthe right to edit grammar, spelling andportions of text that do not meet universitystandards. Authors will be notified of anymajor changes Illat may be required.All submissions and advertisingenquiries shOuld be forwarded to:lmn }V JIIIiQ[Engineering SocietyCPH 1321University of WaterlooWATERLOO. Ontario(5]9) 8884762

are hardworking, honest people, doingtheir best for the people who electedthem for not a hell of a lot of reward. Andthey take a lot of abuse for their trouble.

You would think, from reading andlistening to the analysis over the pastseveral weeks that Canada was a barren,inflation-ravaged land, where corruptionflourished, disease filled the water supply,millions starved, millions moreuned ucated, untreated by doctors, andrats and criminals roamed freely throughthe s ~ r e e t s Yet look at us We live in arelatively free country. We are healthy,can speak freely, go to school, walk safelythrough our cities, eat, worship, vote. Forall the imperfections in our society, it maybe the best in the world and ourpoliticians have to be given s ~ m e of thecredit. The fact of the matter is that wehave been, relative to most of the othercountries of the world, governed wel\.Yet we will not admit to ourselves.Subconsciously we must know it, since wedemand so much from the government.

Voters appear ready to vote on theissues rather than on a slick image.Clearly they are no longer caught up inthe cult of the leader. That presents achallenge for the politicians--to leadrather than follow; to tell voterssomething other than what the polls saythey want to hear(because the polls maysay different next week). The problemnow, is to find anyone, anywhere, willingto enter political life.

Alice Zee

October 5,1990EditorsGarry PetersonAlice Zee

AdvertisingMatt ManuelJag

Graphics CoordinatorCat Sullavin

PhotographyJeff LewisTodd (Sorry, don t know

your last name.)

CartoonsRed Helen

ContributorsPaul Benedettir u f ~ ca:Michelle CampbellDrew ConwayGreg CookJefferson DarrellDon DriedgerDr. Gary GriffinAjay JindalCliff KnoxJacqui Morgan

CalendarColleen Winter

Layout ManagerBill Kowalchyk

LayoutMurali C(much alphabet>nSteve Ie FunkRon GiesenRon LilycroppGigi MaziluAlex ReedTed TimarMattias Wandel

DistdbutionChemadians


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October 5,1990 Iron Warrior

TOOL Name ChangeUnd,emocratic

Steve RaysonSometime during the term of Winter 90,last term, the EngSoc Exec decided to

change the name of the EngineeringMascot from 'The RIDGID Tool" to just"The Tool". The process by which thename was changed was, in my opinion,undemocratic and thus null and void. Letus examine the facts to determine thevalidity of my statement.

The Exec decided to change the name ofthe mascot at the request of theUniversity Administration. Apparently,Dr. Bill Lennox, then Dean of Engineering,called Mr. Jay Gibson, then president ofEngSoc, and informed him that theAdministration questioned theappropriateness of the current name,given the political climate of the day .The EngSoc Exec then discussed the mat teramong themselves and decided to changethe name. The name change wasannounced at the Big Sister's Charity BusPush, approximately a week after theAdministration's request came.

The question is: Was this anappropriate process by which the name ofthe Engineering Mascot should be'hanged? The answer is no.

The President of EngSoc (this applies tothe rest of the elected Exec too) is electedon the basis of his/her election platform.A platform is an agenda of items thatea h candidate for the office pres nts tothe electorate, prior to being elected.When one candidate wins the election,he/she is said to have a mandate toimplement his/her agenda. This meansthat the President does not haveunlimited power. He/she may notimplement items not advertised onhis/her agenda .

THE FAR SIDE

There are two broad exceptions to thisgeneral rule. One is the execut ion of theday to day business of EngSoc. It isassumed that whoever is elected to officeis going to do that. The other exception isa crisis or emergency situation. In thiscase, the Exec is empowered to take stepsto resolve the crisis or at least to dodamage control until the crisis passes.

Clearly, the name change was not a dayto day decision of the Exec. Indeed, thename has not been changed since themascot was given to Engineering by theRidge Tool Company (registeredtrademark RIDGID) . Was the namechange in response to a crisis oremergency? It could be argued thatEngineering's negative public image is aCrlS1S or emergency. However, anundemocratic response is hardly a solutionto an image crisis. It is more appropriateto re-evaluate our image in an open andreflective forum of discussion. Thus, Isuggest the following democratic course ofaction.

1 Declare the undemocratic namechange null and void.2) Solicit name suggestions for themascot. This could take the form of adrop box, a bulletin board on whichpeople can write, or a name-that-toolcontest. The important point is togive engineering students a chance toair their views on the topic.3) A special com mittee should becrea ed to read the suggestions anaselect the 5 most popular ones. Thesewould be placed on the ballot of areferendum.4) Hold a referendum to name themascot.May the best name win.

PrezSpews

Drew Conway,EngSoc PresidentThings have been SO busy down here in

the EngSoc office that I haven't evenstarted my homework Lots of things areon the go, lots of projects that you maywant to get involved in. Eric is working ona new Science & Engineering QuestProgram to start here next summer topromote careers in engineering andscience. Steve & Steve have booked TheWalter Terrace Hotel, Crystal Ballroomon November 2, for this terms gala semiformal. The theme is "Cotton Club"(Gangsters and Stuff) and even I have adate Chris and Murali are working onimproving the statistical validity of ourcourse critiques. Dwayne and Co . arelooking for new and improved novelties(maybe even UofW ENG LeatherJackets ). Greg is our new Arts Directorand is suppling all sorts of new ideas, sokeep your eyes on the Arts Board. Timand Tse-Yuen are working hard onEngineering Week/End and havealready put together a sold outOctoberfest Pub. Matt & Ajay have gotthe Bombshelter and Fed Hall bookedfor two Engineering Pubs this term andare also arranging an excursion toPhantom of the Opera. Conferences inMontreal, Toronto, and Saskatoon arecoming up and Andrea is acceptingapplications. Deni is wrapping up the

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legalities of the Endowment and Lynda &Kevin have got Grad Com rolling NOTto mention the Enginewsletter and TheIron Warrior who are always looking forquality submissions. All of these peoplehave midterms and finals just like you, sothey could use your help.

All this, and much more is going on,and we haven't even received your inputyet So get yourself down here, talk to orleave a note for the director of yourchoice, or give your ideas to your class repto be brought to council. No idea is toJeRG or to small, EngSoc is here to serveyou.

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New and ImprovedWATSTARBruce Campbell ,WATSTAR Consultant

If you have ever logged on toW ATST AR on one of the ancient PCssomewhere, you may get the feeling thatthe development of WA TST AR isstagnating. In fact, through advances inhardware and developments in software,the W ATSTAR server is now over tentimes faster than it was when it wasintroduced in 1984. Despite thisim provement, an old IBM PC sees only atwo-fold increase in network throughput,because of slow PCs . Today'sapplications packages are bigger andgeared for use the faster 80286 and 80386PCs, therefore it may seem likeWATST AR's performance has declined.What is stagnating is not thedevelopment of W ATST AR, but themajority of computers on the system.

The WATSTAR server is nowover ten times faster ..

Hopeful that one day, there will bedozens of moden' 80386s for students towork with, there is a small team ofdedicated people, hidden in E2-1308B,always working on improvingWATSTAR'a performance, reliability andfeatures . Some of the recentenhancements to WATSTAR arepresented here.4mm OAT Backup SystemWATSTAR formerly used 1/4 tapE.'cartridges to backup WATSTAR's diskinformation. These old tapes held 60megabytes each and were rather slow. Itused to take about 10 days running 4hours a day and 25 tapes to do a funWA15TAR backup. Furthermore, the oldtape backup system failed on a fewoccasions causing great grief andannoyance. Now WATSfAR has a 4mmdigital audio tape system. Each tapeholds 1.3 gigabytes and a full backup canbe done in 2 days, running just overnightto reduce load on the sYf,tem. The mainpurpose of the WATSTAR tape backupsystem is to protect data from majorsystem disasters like a hard drive crash.But if a user goes to the W ATSTAR officewith a truly convincing sob story abouterasing their life's work, they may well getit restored from tape.

from lert to right: Martin MacLeod, Bruce Campbell, Erick EngelkeWATSTAR Performance UpgradesW ATSTAR exclusiv ely uses Pro net tenmegabits/second token ring networkcards. Although 10 MBits/second (1000KBits/second) sounds quite fast, the 8 bitbus speed of a computer (such as the1308 server which is a 10MHz XTcomputer) can drop this performancedown to only 400 Kbits/second. Even onan 80386 with a 12 MHz bus, it is onlypossible to realize a 500Kbits/ secthroughput on the 8 bit bus. But now,Proteon has 16-bit network cards... a small team of dedicatedpeople working on improvingWATSTAR ...available which can transfer data at overSOOKbits/sec on a 12 MHz 16 bit bus. Sofar, only the CIVIL, OFFICE, SYSTEMS,PHYSICS and ELECTRICAL servers havethe new 16 bit cards. The remainingservers will slowly receive upgradedcards, which will improve performancedramatically. As Rob Henderson ofElectrical Engineering said, We havenoticed an immediate improvement inspeed - thank you very much .Incidentally, 1308, the poorest server inEngineering, is being upgraded to a 16MHz 80286 machine with 16 bit networkcards as soon as the network cards comein.

Two other recent performanceimprovements are the use of animproved hard disk software interface in

the server and extended memory diskcaching on 80286 and 80386 servers. Theimprovement to the hard disk interfacecan increase its throughput from 150Kbits/sec to about 480Kbits/sec with anappropriate interleave factor. Ironically,with the huge amounts of disk cachingnow possible on the server, the diskperformance becomes less important.WATSTAR SHELL

One of the members of the W ATSTARdevelopment team wrote a menuprogram specif ically for W ATSTAR. Thiswas based largely on the work of ArlanNugara using Powermenu. To use it, runSHELL. Once you run SHELL, you canselect from various menus and findcommands quickly and easily. If you findthe SHELL confusing, select theElectronic mail... menu item, and thenselect the Mail consultant menu itemand send the consultant s ~ m importanttips and advice. The consultant will passthese on to the appropriate member ofthe WATSTAR development team.We have noted an

immediate improvement inspeed.New Server InstallationsThe PHYSICS people have W ATST ARnow. They have a 32 station ring on the3rd floor of the Physics building. Systems

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Design has a server to themselves nowtoo. There are now 17 W ATSTAR serversat U of Wand the 18th will be installed inthe Davis Centre within the next month.1308 Minor Room Upgrade

Remember how certain programswouldn't work in E2-1308? Like PHONE,TELNET, and FTP? Remember how E2-1308 used to be ultra-extremely slow?Well, now everything runs in E2-1308 andits speed has been upgraded to just plainslow. It will be running a lot faster oncethe 1308 XT server is replaced with the

There are now seventeenWATSTAR servers ..

new 80286. The reason E2-1308 used to beso much slower was that it used IBM4MBit/sec Token rings cards. PHONEand TELNET etc. did not work in 1308because the W A TST AR drivers andIBM's Token Ring drivers did not meshbeautifully. Rather than having tomaintain 2 sets of software drivers andmaintain 2 different types of hardware, ..only to realize a degradation iIV'performance, it seemed wise to redo t1 4room with Pronet h a r ~ w a r e which is th\standard for WATST AR. Inciden tally,didn't cost much to do this, the wholi:.room was done for 400.00

... a prior ity to replace old PC'swith new 80386'5

The main problem facing WATST ARtoday is that there are only a handful of80386 computers available to thestudents. All of the improvements in theworld don't seem like much when it takes15 minutes to do some simple graphics inWordPerfect on an old IBM Pc. The fallsurvey of 1989 indicates that theupgrading to 80386 computers is a highpriority with the students. Fortunately, Dr.Wilson, Engineering's new AssociateDean for Computing, has made it apriority item to replace the old PCs in thethree main W ATSTAR rooms with new80386s.


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Give Me it or Give Me DeathAjay'The Kingpin' JindalThe usually peaceful and noncontroversial environment of UW

computer users was interrupted thissummer with the removal of thealternative hierarchy of newsgroups

r ~ m the USENET news facility. AlthoughthIS move was justified for economicreasons by Dr. Johnny Wong, theAssistant Provost for Computer andInformation Services, charges ofcensorship have been put forth by manyusers of USENET.What Is USENET7

USENET is a bulletin board systemspanning the entire world . Users canread and post articles on a variety oftopics ranging from aeronautics to ZenBuddhism. When someone posts anarticle, it is transmitted from machine tomachine until it reaches all the sites onthe network. Using newsreader softwareone can select which groups are ofinterest, read articles in that group andpost followup articles or reply directly tothe author. The cost of maintenance andtransmission of the articles to other sitesis absorbed by large sites such asuniversities....USENET ISinformationsystem.

an excellentdistribution

The newsgroups are named using aconvention which tells a user at a glancewhat type of information can be found .For example, "rec.music.jazz" means thearticles in that group fall under thegeneral category of recreation (othersinclude "comp" for computer, "sci" forscience, "misc" for miscellaneous, and"biz" for business), more specificallymusic, and still more specifically jazz.Using this system, users can quickly see ifa group might be of interest.USE NET is an excellent informationdistribution system. When the"discovery" of cold-fusion was announcedmore than a year ago, a group called"alt.cold-fusion" was set up within daysand physicists and laymen alike wereexchanging thoughts on the matter.With all the newgroups available youcould learn a lot by just browsing throughthe articles (especially those which makeup a debate) or throw out a question tothe net and get an answer in a few days ifother sources fail.

Here at Waterloo, this facility is usuallyaccessed through a UNIX account. Sinceall engineers are given a WATSTARaccount and only a few have UNIXaccounts, most are not aware of theexistence of USENET. Even if you don'tread USE NET, the sudden removal of awhole section of newsgroups is somethingto be concerned about in the context ofcensorship and the restriction of the freeflow of infonnation.What's The Big Deal?

Any newsgroup falling under thegeneral category of "alt" ceased to becarried by UW machines as of April 27,1990 by order of Dr. Wong. Since thentwo groups have been reinstated -"alt.fractals" and "alt.security" as a resultof a specific request by a faculty memberand senior manager of an academic

...savings as a result of cuttingthe aU groups will be 'trivial ..support department." Other groups suchas alt.hackers , "a lt.simpsons , andironically alt.censorship remainunavailable. Other sites such as theUniversity of Western Ontario whodepended on Waterloo to get theirnewsfeed have had to look elsewhere toget the "alt" groups.

Immediately following the dropping ofthe "alt" groups there was a flurry ofdiscussion on the uw.generalnewsgroup accusing the administrationof censorship. Dr. Wong's officialstatement cited economic reasons for thecuts. c or h article"Newsgroup Update" in the May 18 issueof the Imprint:

"Facing a 1.5% budget cut, along withincreased requests for resources, Dr.Wong gave consideration to theresources which are devoted tonewsgroups . Upon examination, hefclt that newsgroups within the 'alt'hierarchy were not related to theins truct ional , research oradministrative needs of UW."

The main argument on uw.generalrejecting the economic reason was thatthe savings as a result of cutting the "alt"groups will be trivial and will in fact costthe university more due to increased mailtraffic to off-campus sites by peoplegetting "alt" articles from other sources.

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Of the approximately eightynewsgroups under the "all" heading, lessthan ten (such as "alt.sex" and "alt.drugs")may be considered containingque tionable content. A complaint by auser regarding an article posted to"alt.sex.bondage led to its removal inearly April with no fanfare or backlash.Soon after, the axe fell on the entire "alt"hierarchy followed by much protest.

In the middle of the spring term, theComputer Science Club was willing tocarry the "alt" hierarchy on its own Imachine and take up the cost ofmaintaining it. When this was proposedto the administration, they were deniedpermission on the basis that theuniversity ethernet and terminals wouldstill be used to distribute the informationand thus incur costs even though the escwas willing to pay those costs. The esc iscurrently attempting to get a privatephone line installed so that users withhome computers and a modem can callup the esc machine for the "alt" groupsbut that also requires universitypermission for which they are still waiting.

...USENET should be treatedmore like the library ..Other discussions on the "uw.general"

group have suggested ways to get the"alt" groups restored . One suggestionwas that s t ~ e n t s donate money to theWATFUND but specifically state thattheir the money is to go toward themaintainance of the "all" groups. Otherswould like to see a large university wideprotest or petition which would give thea . . st 0 ;lJ..l to , 0

It has been agreed that the universityneeds some sort of policy on thesematters. Up until now, USENET has beenmaintained on campus in an ad hocmanner by the computing depMlm ntbut due to the incr diblc amount ofinformation - techni ai, arti lic, orotherwise it should be Ir ated more likethe library which has a written policy onthe acquisition and termination ofmaterials it contains. In that respect, thecomputing department simply providesthe technical service to maintain it anddoes not pass judgement on its content.Already, DCS has restored two "alt"groups which contained valuableinformation but only because importantpeople wanted them back. Some peoplehave even been posting articles to"uw.general" which orginally appeared inan "aitH newsgroup with the heading

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"Look what we missed ". From a practicalstandpoint, one cannot say that the theinformation in "all" is any less useful than"rcc" and it is also questionable howthoroughly the information wasexamined for useful content and whodete .mined what "useful" is.

On September 28, I went to speak withDr. Wong on this issue. He spoke to mebriefly and stated that there hasn't beenany change in the University's positionand referred me to the articles appearingin the Imprint and Gazette for moreinformation.

The electronic age continues to makethe world smaller by allowing people whoare geographically far apart tocommunicate as if they were only inseparate rooms but the removal of the"alt" hierarchy has cut the connectionbetween a large group of people withsimilar interests.

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The Eng Arts Optionby Greg o o ~ Arts Director

In the following articles, keyindividuals provide a better idea of onemore of the many opportunities which we,as engineering students, may takeadvantage of as part of our education here- the EnglArts Option. This particularconcept, as noted, is a recently introducedidea which may appeal to some studentswho feel that their course load is too'restrictive or who simply wish tocomplement their technical backgroundwith studies in the humanities .Whatever the case, it is not the type ofoption that all students will wish topursue. This information has beencompiled merely to inform you, thestudent, of a particular course of actionwhich ou rna wish to consider .

Paul Benedetti EngArtsPerhaps you've heard rumours of some

guy taking a combined program of Artsand Systems Design Engineering at UW ormaybe you've seen a suspicious ENG ARTSon the sleeve of a university jacket. Well,that guy was probably me . . . or one of twoother students who have joined thisexperimental progra m since it was pilotedin the fall of 1987.

"Engineering and Arts ," you gasp, "youmust be crazy " Well, why not grab acoffee and bagel at the C&:D and read on .Maybe I can convince you that being a"socially stupid" engineer AND a "no-op"artsie isn't so bad after all.,In 1987 a freshly graduated high schoolstudent received notice that he had beenaccepted to Systems Design Engineering atthe University of Waterloo. I couldn'thave been happier .or so I thought. Ibegan to have doubts when I got myschedule. It seemed that the set of courseswas too nanow, there were no longer anyhumaftities courses in my curriculum. Irealized it was not what I wanted for myeducati on. After a few sleepless nights Ivisited Prof. G. Soulis, whom I had heardhad an interest in mixing the humanitieswith engineering. He said that anENG ARTS program might be possible,"but it had never been tried before. Theywere in need of a guinea pig, Withouthesitation I jumped at the chance. Afterconsultation with the Dean of Engineeringand the Dean of Arts, the marriage ofEngineering and Arts had begun.

t works like this: in six short years, Iwill have received two degrees; one in cooperative Systems Design Engineering(BASe) and, the other, a general BA in

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Arts. Actually, I ended up getting theArts degree first, since it only took threeyears to complete. During those firstthree years I took six school terms andthree co-op terms (all in the summer).Each of the school terms involved takingthree Engineering courses and three Artscourses. After successfully completing therequired range of Arts courses I receivedmy. BA .and began to finish off my

E n g t n e ~ r m g degree this fall by entering28 Engmeenng. I have also decided toattempt a minor in English using myremaining free electives.Engineering and Arts Youmust be crazy

You might think that this sounds like alot of work. Actually, though not a bed ofroses, I have enjoyed the program verymuch so far. One of the main advantagesis variet y. I mean variety, not just interms of being able to jump from studyingcalculus to reading NathanielHawthorne, but also in travelling aboutthe campus, getting professors in manydifferent faculties and meeting a widerrange of fellow students. It is true that Iwas not closely tied to my Engineeringclass as most engineering students are, butI didn' t mind. I made friends in both Artsand Engineering and was more of anindependent worker anyway.

But "Why?" you ask. "Why putyourself through this?" I will try toexplain some of the philosophy behindmy decision.

The Engineer, after having produced adesign solution, must be capable ofcommunicating the idea effectively.

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Solutions, no matter how technical,usually involve the human factor. Howwill the solution interface with the workplace? Are there environmental concerns?What do people feel about it? Thesequestions do not have entirely technicalanswers.The sa me scenario arises when nontechnical people make decisions . The

manager needs to know enough about thetechnology being used by employees tounderstand their concerns, just as thepolitician must know something abouthow a new project (bridge, highway,sewage treatment plant, or pipeline)works in order to make the right decisionfor the area, city, or nation.

Each year of the ENGI ARTS programhas convinced me more that the boundarybetween the humanities and the technicalareas is artificial. Systems Design hastaught me to look for the connections; thethreads that bind a system . One of ourprofessors once said that every thing is onegigantic system, all interconnected, andthat it is up to us to find out how. I have

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found that computing is related tomathematics, which is connected to musicand art, which is tied to design, related toplanning and, in turn, to history; all ofwhich is communicated in English orother languages.

This discovery is certainly not original,but it does come as a surprise to a studentwho was told in high school that he mustmake a choice between the technical andthe humanities; that some people wereright-brained and some left-brained and Ishould decide which I am .

.... Employers are looking forwell-rounded students ..I am sure that I am not the only one whohas been forced to make such a decision. I

know this because I've talked to others,many others. I've spoken to engineeringstudents who would just love to take a"real" English Literature or Historycourse (perhaps just to learn somethingabout the people who shaped technologythrough the ages) and Arts students whowould like to know more about how todesign something, or the mathematicsbehind the things we take for granted(like why satellites do n ' t fall to Earthlike everyt hing else).

Another thing I am sure of is that manyof you reading this article are alreadymixing your courses, taking minors inhistory, physics options and the like.ENG ARTS is only part of a growing trendtowards a more "Renaissance" sort ofeducation. More and more students arerealizing that THEY are in control oftheir own education and can reap benefitsfrom such an excellent and diverseuniversity in any way they choose. Thesystem was created to serve the studentand, of course, society, but it should neverbe the case that the system limits thestudent. t is also true that a growingnumber of companies are searching to hirepeople with the technical skill, but also astrong background in the humanities.After all, the specifics of any job arelearned after employment, not in theclassroom. Employers are looking forwell-rounded students who know how tolearn.

Interested? f you are, I hope that youwill ask more about ENG ARTS orperhaps decide to skip that bird course infavour of a cross-faculty safari. TheUniversity of Waterloo has been verysupportive of my program and I amindebted to many people in both Arts andEngineering including Prof.G. Soulis, Prof.Ed Jernigan, Prof. W. Lennox (Dean ofEngineering at the time of the program'sinitiation), Prof. G. Griffin, Prof. P.Woolstencroft, Prof. Banks (Dean of Arts)and many others. The present coordinatorof the program is Prof. G. Bragg. Onething I can tell you certainty is that theprogram has been great so far

For those of you who are not interested Iwould ask you to keep in mind that,sometimes, the pen is mightier than theTool.


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Engineers with Breadth The Arts PerspectiveReprinted from UW Gazette,February 21, 1990

The older they get, the more theybecome keen on a broad education.So says Dr. Gordon Bragg, who wasrecently appointed Director of GeneralStudies in the Faculty of Engineering. Hesucceeds veteran professor George Soulis.Once engineers are practising they

appreciate their background in nonengineering areas, he said in aninterview. 'The emphasis on generalstudies is growing in the profession.

General studies, a tradition inengineering education, basically meanscourses lying outside the realm ofengineering, the physical sciences andmathematics.''This general studies requirement givesstudents some breadth of studies relatedto their role as educated professionals insociety, says the University'S calend ar.

That type of insight benefits engineerswell into thei r practice. People in their

they face is finding room in their busytimetables.Engineering students sign up for coursesin arts and other areas just like otherstudents. A few sections of certain coursesare chiefly aimed at engineers andscheduled at convenient hours.

We want our students to mix withstudents from other faculties, since wedon't want 'arts for engineers' courses, hesaid.As the new director, Bragg said, hewants to ensure that students who go onexchange programs at foreign universitiesgain recognition for their experience.I'm looking into that to see if we can'tgive each of those students a credit in thegeneral studies for being in theseprograms, he said. They have hadtrouble meeting the requirements whilethey were away.Bragg said he hopes to improve theprogram by smoothing the bureaucraticand scheduling problems that inevitably

L fire Lo myself, nlld IJrigliL L r a ~ t } seiclltifie insLrulllcllLs:JI aruunJ lJ1e auJ Looks to read, and experimel1ls towake, and elljoy myself amazingly. I find thc sLudy

position need a broader base than anarrow technological training, Braggsaid.Engi neers think algoritmically, tothink in a process that goes from aproblem to an answer, but the worlddoesn't work that way. They need abetter understanding of the people aspectof the problem.

As well, an enhanced literacy will helpthem write more interesting and colourfulreports, and strengthen their publicspeaking.

General studies is an absolutelyessential part of an engineeringeducation, Bragg said.At UW, engineering students mustcomplete at least five term courses ingeneral studies as part of their degreerequirements.My job is to see that there is a list ofwhat is acceptable and what is notacceptable and what is available to ourstudents, Bragg said. A big challenge

crop up. We want students to havecoherent groupings of courses that arc:meaningful to them, and a wider range otcourses.

Course content is the responsibility ofthe other faculties, the director pointedout.Students in their early years heresom etim es resist the id ea of general

studies, Bragg saKi, because they areinterested in the technical aspects oftheir training.It tends to be the other way in the

upper years, where there is a great dealof enthusiasm and desire to achieve thebreadth that general studies offers.Students are given a wide latitude inwhat courses to take, as long as they veeraway from the more technological coursesoffered in other faculties.To fit the subjects they want into theirschedules, they can opt to take courses bycorrespondence or at another universityduring their work terms.

Dr. Gal)' Griffin.Associate Dean, Faculty of ArtsStarting in the Fall of 1987, PaulBenedetti became the first student in a

specially-designed Arts/EngineeringProgram leading to the dual degrees of SAand BASe. Paul has successfullycompleted the BA component of thedegree and is now proceeding with theBASe in Systems Design Engineering.From the Faculty of Arts' perspective, wehave been delighted to have Paul andstudents like him in this program.

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The formal program, however, does notbegin to indicate the interest in dualdegrees that has been apparent in recentyears. Paul's approach, in fact, is not thetypical path .More commonly, a less formal programarises from the request of a studentcurrent ly enrolled in Engineering. In thesecases, students map out ways of takingcourses in Arts, in addition to theirGeneral Studies electives, in sufficientnumber to meet the degree requirementsofthe Faculty of Arts.

Some students have done this aftercompleting the BASe. Others have used acombination of correspondence coursestaken during work terms and/or a term ofstudy in Arts instead of a work term .

exposure to different ideasand w ys of thinking

In this day and age, it is no longerpossible to be a Renaissance person in thesense of having come to grips with all ofthe knowledge and ways of knowingavailable. It is possible, however, toobtain a formal introduction to a largeproportion of the humanities, socialsciences, the applied sciences and math insuch a dual degree program.

The dual prosrams seem to accomplishdifferent objectives for different students.Some want to continue the study of an areaof Arts that interests them, such ashistory or psychology. Others want abroad exposure to different ideas andw. ys of thinking.

Regardless o( the obj ctiv S, thstudent in dual d gr progr. m shouldb neCit from improved communic tionskills, the expo ure to different id as andways of thinking, cxpcrienc withdealing with uncertainty, and abroad n d perspective on the role ofscience and t hnology.

Room 4366, Carl Pollock Hall (519) 885-1211, Ext. 4008University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3G1

Planning to attend a conference this term, either to present a paper, or just to observe? You may be eligiblefor a Travel Grant from the Sandford Fleming Foundation. Also available are grants of up to 50 to coverconference registration fees. Applications should be directed to Dr. W.M. Loucks DC 3524 or ext. 2097.

ilEver have an uncontrollable urge to spew off on some meaningless topic? The Sandford Fleming Debatesmay be just the thing for youl Each term, teams from various undergrad classes compete for fame,prestige, and cash awards ( 100 each to members of the winning team, and 50 each to the runners-up).Contact the Debates Directors via the EngSoc Office for more details on this term's debating series.

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National Velvet:Not a Dead Horse

Ajay JindalBy now, National Velvet should be aninstitution at the University of Waterloo.This was apparent at the concert they

gave in the Bombshelter, FridaySeptember 21st. When I first saw NY,about six months ago, their self titleddebut album had been in circulation forsome time and a second one was imminent.A large crowd showed up for the show butthey remained in the periphery of thedance floor for the first half of the show.This time, however, the dance floor waspacked the instant the band took thestage. This crowd wasn t here to killtime, they knew what they wanted.National Velvet was originally slated

to play Fed Hall, a natural progressionfor an up and coming band, but they had tobe moved to the Bomb because - get this -there was a large pool set up on the dancefloor of Fed. Luckily, the Bombshelteral10ws much more intimacy with the bandand the people around you. It's alwaysfun to feel a performer's sweat fly off herbody and hit you in the eye.

Overall, the performance wasexcellent Maria Del Mar, the lead singerlooked particularly dark (as in evil) thatevening and the facial expressions ofMark Storm, the guitarist added to theband s effect. Enunciation wasn't too clearbut the full emotion of the songs came

through loud and clear . It is my opinionthat a good song should be independant oflyrical context because often in a livesituation you can't understand the singeranyway - just treat the voice like ananother instrument . Whether NationalVelvet had this in mind or not, I don tknow, but they did it well.Maria's got a fabulous set of pipes witha broad range of expression ranging thruthe sweet, angelic vocals of "Hyseteria"to the party-on attitude of "Shout" to thedark, demonic preaching of "Casa DelDiablo". Instrumental effects greatlyadded to the performance. Many songshad the guitar set to sound spacey,ethereal and psychedelic. NationalVelvet made excellent use of rythm.Often times several members of the bandwould be engaging in percussion duties atthe same time.

Maria really can play an audience forall it's worth. Her flowing jet black hairand body were into the performance just asmuch as her voice which certainly raisedthe hormone level of the male portion ofthe audience. She knew this andcommented on how the "freshmen" in theaudience perhaps didn t know what theywere getting into and how the women inthe audience should take it easy on them.

Pacer Advisesfor Equality

PACER has been in existence since 1974 and has served over the years as an advisorto the President over issues relating to equality among UW members.The terms of reference for PACER are as follows:

1 To keep under review effort to recuit women and men as students, facultyand staff in all departments of the University and to monitor the programs ofthe University with respect to applicability to women and men.2 To review printed material published on campus with respect to itsapplicability to both sexes.3 To review cases of alleged denial of equality on the basis of sex when theyare of a general or corporate nature.4 To advise the President from time to time in regard to these and othermatters having to do with equality of women and men, and to submit anannual written review

TIlISC )ULU 3 ~ ~ ) UPACERS's current members are: Kim Speers, undergraduate student and VicePresident, UniverSity Affairs, of the Federation of Students (ext. 3780), HarminderDhillon, graduate student (ext. 3331), Anne Jenson, staff member (ext. 4735), SwaniVethamany-Globus, faculty member, Chair of the Committee (ext. 2509) and TrevorBoyes, Registrar and past Chair (ext. 2263), Trenny Canning of the UniverSity

Secretariat serves as the Committee's Secretary (ext. 3493).

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PACER's planned activities include roundtable dicussions with the Chairs ofvarious on-campus committees related to the issues of equality and with thePresidents of Faculy, Staff and Student Associations, the Directory of Women'sStudies and the Editor of the Gazette.Subsequent to these discussions PACER's analyses and endorsements of the effortsof the above committees and associations, together with its own recommendationswill be submitted to the Presdient in confidence in order that many importantconcerns relating to the issues of equality on campus are brough to his attention.Concerns have been brought to PACER with regard to 'sexist jokes' in campuspublications; the Committee is studying ways and means to develop better sensitivitytowards gender-related issues. PACER will strive within its mandate to promoteequality among women and men and to promote mutual trust and respect among allmember of the UW community, Any member of PACER can be contacted throughcampus mail or by phone.


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abortion to the criminal code. It hasignored the rights of women, as rationalbeings, to choose for themselves. t hasignored the 46,000 members of theCanadian Medical Association, whopresented a brief before the Hou e ofCommons Legislative Review Committee,formally protesting the rccriminalizationof abortion. It has ignored the fact that75% of all Canadians support unlimitedj bortion on demand during the firstI trimester.The reaction to the passing of this billwas both swift and drastic: within aweek, a Toronto woman lay dead, and a 16year old Kitchener woman almost died onthe way to the hospital. Both werevictims of back-alley abortions.This could have been yourself, yoursister, mother, lover or friend. Thinkabout it. This is the alternative to twoyears in jail.

If you believe that a woman has a rightto determine her own future, that families. should be secure, loVing, and wanted, thatmotherhood should occur by choice andnot by chance, now is the time you toshould take a stand. The voice of themajority of Canadians has not been heard.

... people will be marching forwomen s ri ht to choose ..Your presence can, and will maKe adifference, at the National Action Dayrally taking place on Saturday, October

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ESS OL YMPI SJacquiMorgan"Wow Now I realIy feel like I'm still inhigh school" RYERSON"You mean we were supposed to be hereFriday night? " TORONTO"How come nobody remembers me fromlast night?" MCMASTER) f_ ed up my nose " WESTERN''Salut " LAVAL"AlI I know was that these girls started

dipping their fingers in the ink pad andtouching me all over " WATERLOO ASeptember 28th was the start of a

revolutionary form of inter-universityconference. It was calIed theESSCOLYMPICS and was hosted by theUniversity that does it best:WATERLOO

The weekend started off with a Fridaynight pub in POET's with a live band(Squidhead rules ) and of course ourever-impressive nautical time trials .Believe it or not some people actuallybrought their swim trunks. Saturdayafternoon acted as a warm down/up daywhere people participated in volIeybalJ,frisbee, food and some got an earlyintroduction to the Bombshelter. The bigevent; Saturday night @ Weaver's Armswent off without a hitch. Waterloo wonthe nautical ( as expected) some peoplelost their voices (me), nobody lost theirclothes (although Pac-man's new jacketwas missing for a while)-basically a goodtime had by all.

Iron WaESSCO' s mandate is to ensure a high

quality of engineering education andstudent life in Ontario. To maintain thismandate, ESSCO's main functions are to:

Act as an information relay basebetween all Ontario Universities viabi-monthly newsletters, and to havethat information easily accessed byall engineering students at eachUniversity Perform an annual FORUM ONENGINEERING; invite high schoolgUidance counsellors and teachers toattend a one day seminar in an effortto break down engineeringstereotypes and present a moreaccurate image of the engineeringprofession Have bi-annual industry speakersin each University to broaden oureducation and maintain industryinteraction Hold an annual sports/fun

w ~ k e n d at a volunteer University, tobe called the ESSCOlympicsESSCO is the intermediate lin}

between each respective UniversityEngineering Society and the Canad iar.Council of Engineering Students (CCES),who, among other things, publishesProject MagaZine and runs an annuaiconference to provide an opportunity forCanadian Engineering students to sharrtheir ideas.

Thanks to all of those who participatedand helped out. Look for theESSCOlympics next year (rumor has itWaterloo B might host it - this isunconfirmed, of course, ahem )

ESSCO hopes to open up lines ofcommunication between secondar}schools, engineering Universities andprofessional engineers . Theseinterdependent groups have beenworking in isolation rather thanbenefiting form each other's knowledgeand experience. An interest in ESSCOhas already been expressed by theAssociation of Professional Engineers ufOntario (APEO) and Committee 'ofOntario Deans of Engineering (CODE)who will hopefully view ESSCO as aneffective way to communicate with theengineering student body.

Don Driedger, CSCE Representative

The Serious Side of ESSCOESSCO stands for the 'EngineeringStudent Societies Council of Ontario'. It'smember societies include; Carlton,Guelph, Lakehead, Laurentian,McMaster, Ottawa, Queen's, RoyalMilitary College, Ryerson, Toronto,Waterloo A & B, Western, and Windsor.

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How the GSTwillffect YOU

Elliot SimcoeStart saving now, because the

government is planning to take a cut onalmost every good or service you purchaseafter January 1st, 1991. Provided, ofcourse, that the Goods and Services Tax(Gsn is not axed by the Senate this week,students will likely be hit hard by priceincreases in almost every purchase theymake.The CST is designed to replace the

1 3 5 ~ Federal Sales Tax which used to becollected on every manufactured good.The FST was buried in the sticker price ofa good, so most consumers were unaware ofits existence. The FST was consideredunfair because it favored importers whosegoods were not subject to an FST overCanadian manufacturers of similar goods.Thus the price of an imported pair of jeanswas likely to be lower than a similarbrand made in Canada.With the GST only being applied attime of sale, the sticker price of a good isonly supposed to reflect the actualmanufacturing cost, plus profit.Theoretically, the price of most

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They Came they sawthey argued.Cliff Knox

During the past weekend, someengineers actually chose to leaveWaterloo to attend a less traditionalevent, namely the Third Annual GaiusCaesar Caligula Novice DebatingTournament, hosted by Queen'sUniversity in Kingston.

There were a total of seventy-threeteams participating, representing elevendifferent schools from Ontario andQuebec. Five teams were entered fromWaterloo's House of Debates, of whichfour team members were fromengineering. The single criterion for entrywas that none of the debators hadpreviously debated on the Canadianinter-university circuit.Shortly after registration on Fridayafternoon, debators were instructed to getinto their togas and await theassignments for the first round. This wasan impromptu round, and debators hadto argue the resolution, "friends maycome and go, but enemies accumulate,"while attempting to keep their respectivetogas from falling off. Afterwards, theparticipants were bussed to the openingfestivities, which included extendeddancing (with a conga line raid on theparty next door ) and a Pub Round,presided over by Caesar Caligula,himself The gracious emperor was also

the teams a week before the tournament.The resolution for the prepared roundswas a quote from Rudyard Kipling : "thesins they do, two by two, they shall pay for,one by one," which apparently was takento have a wide number of interpretations.

Although none of the Waterloo teamswere 'power matched' in the finalqualifying round, this was more than

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made up for in spirit, and at the Saturdaynight party, in which an unnamed teamdistinguished itself as rulers of the highseas in a Queen 's sponsored nauticalevent. Special thanks go to the shipmates:Mark "Rahul" Verheyden, Luke Young,Bryan Thexton, Hope Stanciu, and theProclaimers.

The semi-finals on Sunday morningsaw Huron College (Western) matchedagainst Queen's, and McGill squared offagainst Western, over the resolution,"being a hero is the shortest livedprofession." One version of this debatesuggested that the Oka warriors wereheros, and that they should be placed inan exchange program with universitystudents to improve their quality of life.The teams from Western and Queen'sadvanced to the final round, which

Cwo rrom the bowtle: John Hinch, Matthew Englander, Allan Vee, BryanThexton, Paul Check, Luke Young, Mark Verheydento learn communication skills, and youhave an opportunity to meet a new groupof friends as you attend a number oftournaments. Anyone wishing to debateon the inter-university circuit is urged tocome out to the regular meetings for theHouse of Debates, on Mondays at 5:30pm, Physics Rm 313 (next meeting isWednesday, October 9th).

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manufacturer's price to the retailer wasprobably $2.00 plus 2 7 ~ FST. Theretailer, in turn, sold it to you for a profitof $1.73 ($4.00 - $2.27). Starting inJanuary, the retailer may purchase thebottle of aspirin from the manufacturer foronly $2.00. Do you really think thepharmacist wiIl lower the $4.00 stickerprice to $3.73 and pass this savings on toyou?

The price of some goods will rise morethan the price of other goods. The pricechange will be determined by the amountof manufactured inputs used to produc e thegood. After the GST is tagged on, theprice of an item with a heavyconcentration of manufactured inputs, suchas a car, should fall by approximately3%. However, the price of a simple good,manufactured goods should tall because such as toothpaste (with a relatively

I resolution for th prepared I examined the topic: "a true man is one there is no longer a 13.5% tax hidden in high cost of marketing), will likely rise. - ho k n ~ , w s how to play the bagpipes, but the price. But, do you think a shop owner by at least 3% after the GST is added on.~ n d ~ o ~ o ~ n e - ~ - ~ a ; t e ~ r l ~ o o ~ ~ ~ T ~ h ~ e ~ ~ ~ a ~ m ~ r ~ r o ~ m ~ Q ~ u ~ ~ ~ n ~ s n ~ i s ~ h : e d a : s ~ i l i : e ~ b ~ e ~ c ~ a ~ u ~ s e ~ t ~ h ~ e ~ r e ~ i ~ s ~ n ~ o ~ ~ ~ n ~ g ~ e ~ r ~ a ~ ~ 3 ~ 5 ~ ~ ~ ~ e ~ ? ~ ~ h ~ ~ u ~ a ~ m u ~ ~ r o M w h ~ W ~contingent. overall winner, despite the fact that they Likely not. never taxed before, will now be subjectedSaturday, was a day of four qualifying were also the hosts for the tournament. In For an example, let's take a bottle of to a 7% tax just like any manufacturedrounds, including two 'prepared' rounds, general, a good time was had by all aspirin manufact ured in Ontario and sold good. Published materials likewhere the topic had been given to each of participants. Debating is an excellent way at your local pharmacy for $4 .00 . The mag. and ll'xtbooks w ~ r ( n('vC'T

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