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Industry Chat: Real EstateSeptember 2016
Todd Carson
Senior Associate Director
MBA Career Management
Agenda• Working with MBACM
• Real Estate• Introductory Overview
• Trends
• Functions, Roles and Internships
• Company Relationships
• Career Pathways
• The Job Search• Offer Statistics
• Recruiting Strategy and Timeline
• Hiring Data• Offers, Compensation and Sponsorship
• Real Estate at Wharton• Wharton Real Estate Club
• Zell/Lurie Real Estate Center at Wharton
• Events and Resources
• Q & A
MBA Career Management: Advising from experience
Todd CarsonCareer Advisor, Real Estate (since 2011)
Pre-Wharton CV
• Private Equity: Pension Corporation LLP (London, UK)− Member of investment team responsible for management of $1bn portfolio of private
operating company assets− PC funded with $2.5bn total capital from JP Morgan, JC Flowers, Swiss Re and
others
• Investment Banking: Goldman Sachs (London, New York)− EMEA TMT Advisory: worked on advisory mandates for several mega funds including
Blackstone, TPG, Carlyle, and Providence Equity− Prior experience in European High Yield Capital Markets and Fixed Income
Operations
MBA Career Management
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MBA Career Management Real Estate Team
Career Advice
• Self-assessment & decision making
• Networking
• Industry Insight
• Resumes, Cover Letter & Interview Prep
Corporate Relationships
• Develop employer outreach strategy with RRM
Programming
• Develop programs for students interested in Real Estate
TODD CARSONSENIOR ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR
Corporate Relationships
• Strategize best recruiting approach for variety of employers
• Co-manage employer relationships with Career Advisor
• Manage recruiting events
Student Support
• Assist students with logistics of on-campus interview process, job board postings, etc.
JAMIE HENDELRECRUITING RELATIONSHIPMANAGER
Partner with Real Estate Club, Zell/Lurie Real Estate Center
Representative Outreach List: Summer 2016
How can MBACM Help?
• Helping ‘Career Switchers’ find their path
• From X Real Estate Development• Firms to target
• Networking strategies
• Resources to utilize
• Timing
• Offer negotiation
30%
40%
30%
WG16 Full Time Placement*
Acquisition/REIT
Development
Private Equity
Real Estate at Wharton – A Strong Franchise• Robust, global alumni base
– Global alumni community of c.1,600+ across development, asset management, private equity, advisory, brokerage
• Supportive, tight-knit group at Wharton– Historically, c.20 students accept full time roles in real estate each year (2-
3% of class)
• Strong placement on the buy-side
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*Excluding Advisory roles
Foundation for SuccessSome notable alums in real estate
• Jeff Blau, President, Related Companies• Richard Bloch, Founder & CEO, H&R Block• Vikram Chatwal, Founder, Vikram Chatwal Hotels• Jonathan Gray, Senior Managing Director, Blackstone• Jeffrey Katz, President & CEO, Sherwood Equities• Edward Lewis, Chairman & CEO, Oxford Development Company• William Mack, Founder, CEO & President, Mack Company & Apollo
Real Estate Advisors• Dan Och, Founder, Och-Ziff Real Estate Advisors• Mort Zuckerman, Co-Founder and Chairman, Boston Properties
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Industry Overview
Real Estate: Industry Overview
• Entrepreneurial business/enterprise search
• Real estate is an asset class – job function is either advising or investing
• For buy side roles (apart from Development), prior real estate and/or finance experience are differentiating
• Acquisitions vs. private equity
• Asset management can be pathway to Acquisitions
• Commercial and Residential Development – most entrepreneurial
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Recruiting Trends• Market remains robust, subject to global market volatility and end of ‘free money’• Career switching absolutely possible, but heavy competition from experienced talent;
need to demonstrate passion with research/knowledge• Private Equity can be a challenging search for those without prior buy-side experience• I-banking likely to hire in similar numbers to prior years. Compensation is rising,
lifestyle challenges being acknowledged and addressed (RE lighter than Corp.)
• There is mobility in the industry once you are ‘in’. If lacking prerequisite experience, some paths ton consider that are most open to career switchers
• Consider roles in leasing/investment sales• Brokerage, consulting, corporate real estate (eg. Google’s real estate portfolio)
• Summer internships likely to be ‘easier’ to secure than full time roles; can evolve into full time roles for 2nd years. Sometimes offers are made from summer employers later in the spring
Roles in Real Estate
Development Complex skillset and diverse responsibilities
Buy land, work through entitlements and project design, pro formas, source potential tenants, project financing, ongoing leasing
and eventual disposition
Acquisitions Investing, underwriting, sourcing, valuations, deal experience
Investment Banking
Financial modeling/valuation, overall sector knowledge
Advise PE firm on acquisition of portfolio of several thousand
residential mortgages
Private EquityRegional market knowledge, deal
experience, financing markets experience
Network/identify investment opportunities; manage purchase/sale
process; fundraise
Corporate/Asset Management
Management/development/retail experience, relationships with
builders, zoning laws, city planning
Tenant communications and marketing of sustainability initiatives. Summarize critical lease dates and
deliverables
Manage due diligence on acquisitions/dispositions, valuation & sensitivity analysis (Argus & Excel)
Typical Skillset Sample Responsibilities
Sample Internships2017 Development Summer Intern: This position will be responsible for managing several phases of the development of multifamily rental communities. This includes market analyses, financial analyses and budgeting, design conceptualization, management of the entitlement process including presentation before municipal and other regulatory boards, and participation in the construction/lease up process.
Summer Associate – Leadership Development Program: Summer Associates spend 10 weeks working with a Tishman Speyer team in a core functional areas. This is an opportunity to gain hands-on real estate experience, while contributing in a meaningful way to Tishman Speyer's business.
Past rotations have included the following areas: Acquisitions, Development, Asset Management, Leasing, Design & Construction, Portfolio Management, Equity Capital Markets, Finance, Emerging Markets, New Business Initiatives
Summer Associate (Acquisitions & Capital Markets): The individual will work closely with senior management to underwrite potential acquisitions and perform analysis related to the firm's capital markets activities. • Underwriting potential corporate and asset acquisitions• Preparation of ARGUS & Excel models to support valuation & structuring strategies• Supporting analysis on secured and unsecured debt acquisitions• Compilation of loan request books & other financing materials for portfolio properties• Communicating with executive management regarding ongoing project status
Companies That Made Internship Offers in 2016
Recent Employer Feedback • ‘Pre-qualified’ coming from Wharton - strength and rigor of the real estate program is
widely recognized
• Networking is most effective way to find opportunities. One on one interactions are more memorable than just attending info sessions
• Stay current on newsworthy items from firms that interest you; understand their business and don’t ask questions you could have found the answer to yourself
• Have a researched pitch as to why you want to work for a certain firm in a certain geography
• Treks are a great way to get to know firms – rarely will any say no to hosting, especially if there is an alum at the firm
• While future hiring is expected to remain steady, easy financing conditions have led to more than adequate supply
• Multifamily oversupply (in certain markets)? • Still opportunities to repurpose corporate real estate (eg. for tech employers)
The Job Search
• Established employer relationships• Annual, steady demand• Extend multiple offers/yield multiple
students• Understand MBA recruiting value
prop
MATURE
• Developing employer relationships • Inconsistent demand year-to-year• Just-in-time hiring• Less clear on MBA recruiting value
prop
ENTERPRISE
Consulting, Banking, Sales & Trading, CPG Private Equity, Venture Capital, Media, RetailSocial Impact, Start-Ups
Healthcare, Technology, Energy, Hedge Funds, Real Estate
RecruitingStrategy/Timing
Wharton Strategy
Student Strategy
• Employer Info Sessions, Employer Networking Night, Sponsorships, On Campus Recruiting
• Heavy Fall/Winter Recruiting
• Postings, resume book, networking • Throughout year; late in year/summer offers
Wharton Strategy
• Differentiate vs. other schools• Build market share• Find new ways for company engagement
• Develop compelling Wharton value prop• Expand/maintain vibrant Wharton network • Manage outreach with clubs/partners
• Prepare for EIS, Interviews, how to decide between firms, etc
• Networking-intensive• Alumni-intensive
Student Strategy
MBA Career Management
Mature & Enterprise Recruiting
What Real Estate Recruiters Seek…
• Sense of career focus within the industry
• Intellectual curiosity/willingness to learn and work your way up
• Candidates who think beyond entry level compensation
• Strong quantitative and technical skills (i.e. ARGUS, modeling capabilities)
• Marketing and salesmanship
SKILLS
• Relevant industry/functional experience or ability to articulate how past skills are relevant
• Differentiated knowledge of the industry/location
• Marketing and commercial acumen
EXPERIENCE
• Fit with company culture
• Ability to communicate with variety of constituents (investors, construction crews, lawyers)
• Entrepreneurial mindset
• Tenacity – examples of achieving results when odds were stacked against you
SOFT SKILLS
Career Switching
83% 82%79% 79%
67% 67%
57% 56% 54% 53%
40%
20% 18%
0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
70%
80%
90%
% FT Accepted Offers – Reported “Industry Change”
Consulting6%
Professional Services
6%
Real Estate31%
Investment Banking/Brokerage
25%
Diversified Financial Services
13%
Social Impact13%
Investment Management
6%
Pre-MBA Experience: Real Estate 2016 Full Time Offers
Is Real Estate a good fit for You? Skills Culture Work/Life• Risk tolerance based on
analytics + gut instinct
• Collaborative approach
• Ability to manage wide range of tasks (analysis, politics, personnel)
• Confident personalities
• Passionate about the sector
• Build many lasting professional relationships
• Entrepreneurial spirit in the industry
• Open to career-switchers (in general) but must carve own niche
• Tangible impact on communities
• Subject to market conditions
• Hours correlated to deal activity
• Better lifestyle potential in Development, Asset Management
• Financial upside typically over the long term (comp. typically initially lower than other industries)
• International opportunities
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• ‘98-01: Analyst, Investment Banking
• ‘01-03: Wharton MBA
• ‘03-06: Land Acquisition Manager
• ’06-Present: recently promoted to Managing Director, Acquisitions
Career Pathways: Home Builder PE
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Recent Alumni in Real Estate
Development
Acquisitions/Private Equity
• James Kelly – Development Associate
• Matt Towerman – Associate
• Eoin Condren – VP, Europe Investments Team
• Martha Kelley – Associate, REPIA
• Moira Kiernan – AVP, Acquisitions
• Brian Cantrell – VP, Acquisition & Capital Markets
• Chris Rosser – Associate
• Paul Zarian – Associate
• Michael Daschle – Director, Development
More Tips from Alums/Employers
• Employer feedback: general recommendations• “Show connections to particular geography. Family ties, knowledge about the
market, long-term plans, etc.” • “Make your passion evident. Stay current/attend club events” • “Property management or brokerage can be a launching pad to becoming an
investor down the road• “If you aspire to work in RE PE, i-banking can be a good way to build transaction
experience and connections”
• Employer feedback: reasons for NOT hiring Wharton students• Lacking credible-sounding connection to geographic location• Competition was better fit; candidates of interest had other offers• Maturity and ability to demonstrate long term potential, today
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Hiring Data
Accepted Internship Offers
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016
% of all accepted offers
Source of Internship Offers: All Wharton Class of 2017
55%
15%
5%
17%
4%
1% 1% 1%
Wharton Job - On Campus Recruiting
Wharton Job - Job Posting
Other
Personal Networking Connections
Wharton Alumni Contact
Career Fair
Trek Networking
MBA Career Management Contact
Source of Real Estate Internship Offers: Class of 2017
37%
11%4%
29%
4%
15%Wharton Job - On Campus Recruiting
Wharton Job - Job Posting
Other
Personal Networking Connections
Wharton Alumni Contact
Career Fair
Timing of Real Estate Internship Offers: Class of 2017
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4
6
8
10
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Timing of Real Estate Full-Time Offers: Class of 2016
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Internship Salary Breakdown: Class of 2017
RE Internships Accepted 20% of Class Accepted 3%Monthly Salary Range $2,000-$10,83325% Monthly Salary $4,000Median Monthly Salary $6,06775% Monthly Salary $8,000
Full Time Salary Breakdown: Class of 2016
Real EstateNumber Accepted 16% of Accepted 3%Annual Salary Range $80,000-$125,00025% Annual Salary $115,000Median Annual Salary $120,00075% Annual Salary $125,000Number with Sign-On Bonus 10Median Sign-On Bonus $15,000
Real Estate at Wharton
• NYC Development trek• Prior treks to Boston,
LA, Washington • ‘Make your own’
• Zell/Lurie Real Estate Center
• Fall and Spring meetings
• Winter Career Fair
Wharton Real Estate Club
• Commitment to delivering opportunities for ~150 student members to engage with the Real Estate community and identify career opportunities
• Partnerships with Zell/Lurie, MBACM and facultyClub Mission:
Career Treks Conference
• Guest speakers from Industry
• ‘Day in the Life’ panels• ARGUS training
program• Case competitions• Interview preparation • Social events and more
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Workshops
Jessica Himmel, Co-PresidentJames Woods, Co-President
2016-2017 Leadership
Samuel Zell and Robert Lurie Real Estate Center• Research center permanently endowed by Sam Zell, Chairman of Equity Group
Investments– Ranked best in country by US News & World Report for quality of faculty and curriculum– Awards fellowships and scholarships to promising real estate students, many of which
are funded by members of the Center
• Hosts meetings and lecture series attracting one of largest gatherings of senior real estate/finance professionals nationally– Spring 2016 meeting keynote speakers included (for example): Kenneth Jacobs
(Chairman & CEO, Lazard); Wesley Edens (Co-Founder, Fortress); Marc Rowan (Co-Founder, Apollo Global Management)
– Ballard Luncheon series hosts leading figures in Real Estate to meet in lunch setting with students
• Career Mentor Program– Students paired with real estate professionals throughout the academic year at Wharton
• Center Leadership – Joe Gyourko, Director– Asuka Nakahara, Associate Director– Susan Sessa, Associate Director
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*Students must be members of the Real Estate Club to participate in Zell/Lurie opportunities
Zell/Lurie Career Fair – Representative Attendees
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Ackman Ziff Real Estate Group Goldman Sachs Olshan PropertiesAlexandria Real Estate Equities, Inc. GoldOller Oxford Properties
Alliance Partners HSP H/2 Capital Partners PCCP, LLCAmerimar Enterprises, Inc Harvest Equities Pennrose Properties
Arbor Phila. Industrial Development Corp. (PIDC Pennsylvania Real Estate Investment Trust (PREIT)ASB Real Estate Investments HFF HershaAvalonBay Communities, Inc. High Real Estate Group LLC PRG Real Estate
Berkadia K. Hovnanian Progressive Housing Ventures, LLCBlackRock PN Hoffman PrologisBlackstone Hines Prudential
The Bozzuto Group HR&A Advisors, Inc. Related CompaniesBrickman ICSC Resource Real Estate
Butler Burgher Group iStar Inc. Rialto CapitalCadre The JBG Companies Rubenstein Partners
Candlebrook Properties, LLC JLL Savills StudleyW. P. Carey Inc. JPMorgan Global Real Assets Silverstein Properties
CBRE Keystone Property Group SL Green Realty Corp.CenterSquare Investment Management Landmark Partners Spear Street Capital
CompStak Lazard Square Mile Capital Management LLC/InvestmentsConcordis Real Estate Advisors LCN Capital Partners Stabilis Capital Management
CoreNet Global, Inc. Liberty Group Holdings Starwood Capital GroupCoshare Liberty Property Trust Tishman
Dranoff Properties Lionstone Investments Toll Brothers, Inc.Eastdil Secured Lubert-Adler Partners UC Funds
Fir Tree Partners Real Estate Madison International Realty, LLC UDR, Inc.Found Advisors Meyer Bergman Vornado Realty Trust
Freddie Mac Morgan Properties/Acquisitions & Asset Mgmt VTSFreedom Mortgage Morgan Stanley Real Estate Investing Walker and Dunlop
General Growth Properties NYCEDC Westport Capital Partners LLC
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