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Game Changers: Peering Over the Shoulder of an Attorney Jeremy M. Kirkland Mid-America Intergovernmental Audit Forum| December 3, 2015

Game Changers: Peering Over the Shoulder of an Attorney · Attorneys- – confidential advisor and loyal advocate. ... to ethics rules. •What is goal of the client? Peering Over

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Page 1: Game Changers: Peering Over the Shoulder of an Attorney · Attorneys- – confidential advisor and loyal advocate. ... to ethics rules. •What is goal of the client? Peering Over

Game Changers: Peering Over the Shoulder of an Attorney Jeremy M. Kirkland Mid-America Intergovernmental Audit Forum| December 3, 2015

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ROADMAP

• Words of wisdom • Role of Lawyer

– Differences between role of auditor and role of lawyer

– General Responsibilities

– Specific Duties of Lawyer

– Integrity and Compliance Program

We’re from OLC and we’re here to help you…

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We’re from OLC and we’re here to help you…

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Lawyer jokes

• Q: How many lawyer jokes are there? A:

• Q: How many lawyers does it take to screw in a light bulb? A:

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Top Differences Between Auditors and Lawyers

• Auditors – – total independence.

• Attorneys- – confidential advisor and loyal advocate.

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The Role of the Lawyer

• Usually think court everyday. • Variety of job responsibilities and

duties. • Act of behalf of client and voices the

opinion of their client.

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General Responsibilities of Lawyer

• Meet with the client before, during and after

• Ensure that the client fully understands and that lawyer fully understands clients perspective.

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Specific duties of lawyer

• Maintain client contact, report progress to client.

• In person representation • Background work. • Meet and negotiate with other parties. • Research issues to aid client.

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Specific duties of lawyer

• Lawyer has responsibility to client, responsibility to law, and responsibility to ethics rules.

• What is goal of the client?

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Specific duties of lawyer

• While an advocate for client, also an advocate for truth.

• Justice should be at the core of any decision.

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Specific duties of lawyer

• Competing duties. • “Partisan advocates” • Attorney still has a duty of candor.

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Specific duties of lawyer

• Refrain from being involved in misrepresentation, fraud, and dishonesty.

• Cannot participate in perjury and responsible for taking reasonable steps to remedy if becomes aware.

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Specific duties of lawyer

• So how does an attorney handle responsibility? Balance all interests?

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Specific duties of lawyer

• Lawyers do generally rely on the information provided by the client.

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Specific duties of lawyer

• Transition from fact-based lawyers to judgment-based lawyers.

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Specific duties of lawyer

• Transition from fact-based lawyers to judgment-based lawyers.

Peering Over the Shoulder of an Attorney

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Specific duties of lawyer

• What about risk? • How do auditors feel about risk? • How do you think attorneys feel about

risk?

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ICP, What’s It All About?!?

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What Do We Mean by Ethics?

Ethics = a decision that impacts another person

Most decisions have an ethics component: o Procedures and controls o Accuracy of records and reports o Management of errors and mistakes o Meeting financial obligations o Recommendations and findings o Supervision and discipline of employees o Treatment of colleagues o Personal use of time & information

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Goals of an ICP

Integrate core values into everyday activity Build and sustain a strong ethical culture Encourage and protect the reporting of

concerns Provide resources to support managers Take action and be accountable if violations

occur

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Elements of an ICP

High level oversight Core values Training of all employees Means to report concerns/violations Assessment of risk Resources Support

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THOUGHTS Elements of an ICP

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