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Fundamentals of Oscilloscope Probing
Presented by Roland E. Crop
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Agenda
4 Signal Integrity and Signal Fidelity Overview4 Evolution of Probing Issues
0 Resistive Era0 Early Capacitive Era0 Yesterday The RLC Era0
Today The Transmission Line Era4 Probe Loading Measurement Examples4 Summary Probing Recommendations
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There are two kinds of designers . . .those that have signal integrity problems
. . . and those that will.Sun Microsystems
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Textbook View of Digital Signals11 1
0 0 0
?
LogicSignal
+5 VoltSupply
Ground
LogicSignal
+5 VoltSupply
Ground
Real View of Digital Signals
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Signal Integrity vs. Signal Fidelity
4 Signal Integrity : Does my circuit operate as predicted bysimulation?
4 Signal Fidelity : Can I trust my measurement system as anaccurate representation of my signal?
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What Might You Be Missing?
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Equivalent Edge Bandwidth
3V
0V
150 psEdge Speed = 150 ps
90%
10%
125 ps
Risetime =125 ps
(10% to 90%)
Equivalent Edge Bandwidth:Rule of Thumb: BW ~ 0.35
tr
Note: IBIS Uses 20% - 80% Risetime
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Measurement System Bandwidth Also Affects Timing
Equal to Signal Edge BWTwice as fast as Signal Edge BWThree times as fast as Signal Edge BWFive times as fast as Signal Edge BW
When the Scope BW is:
41%12%5%2%
Risetime Slowing Error =
What you dont know can hurt you!
Actual Waveform when:
Scope BW = 5X Equivalent Edge BW(~2% Risetime Error)
41% Risetime Error when:Scope BW = Equivalent Edge BW
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Rule of Thumb for System Risetime
Sum of Squares Guideline for Displayed and Measured Results
t r (displayed) [tr (oscilloscope) 2+ t r (probe) 2+ t r (signal) 2 ]
1. The measurement system speed will affect the displayed result
2. For scope + probe, preferably use combined system risetime3. Do not try to solve for signal risetime
This formula assumes a one pole model for each rise time
(Scope, Probe and Signal)
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The Evolution of Probing Issues
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The Resistive Era
Clock rates ~ 1 MHzRisetimes ~ 100s of nanoseconds
4 Passive probes adequate4 Resistive loading is the main concern
1x Probe Model
Ground Lead
Probe
Distributed R for DC (0 Hz) signals.
Oscilloscope
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Typical Specifications
Type Bandwidth Rise Time Input C Input R
1X PassiveProbe 15 MHz 23 ns 100 pF 1 M
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1X Probe Model (Length of Cable)
PROBE
Probe TipPROBE CABLE
8 - 10 pF/ft *1.5 ns/ft
20 pF1 M
6 feet
Vsource
R source
SCOPEDUT
LGround Lead
| (
Disadvantages:4 Very High Reflections4 Very High Input C4 Very Low Bandwidth
Advantages:4 1X (No Attenuation)4 Inexpensive
* Typical 50 cable has about 30 pF/ft of capacitance
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The Early Capacitive Era
Clock rates ~ 10s of MHzRisetimes ~ 10s of nanoseconds
4 Capacitive loading begins to be an issue4 Passive probes
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Typical Specifications
Type Bandwidth Rise Time Input C Input R
1X PassiveProbe 15 MHz 23 ns 100 pF 1 M
10X PassiveProbe 100 MHz -500 MHz 3.5 ns -700 ps 13 pF -8 pF 10 M
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Passive VoltageDivider, Compensated
R1
R2 C2S
C2
C1 S C1
VIN
VOUT
| (
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Parasit ic capacitance, C1 s & C2 s areswamped by larger C1 & C2.
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Typical High Z10X Passive Probe Model
C18 - 12 pF
9 M R1
PROBE
Probe TipPROBE CABLE
8 - 10 pF/ft1.5 ns/ft
C220 pF
1 M R2
6 feet
SCOPE
LGround LeadVsource
Rsource
DUT
| (
| (
| (
500
C37 - 50 pF
R3
Disadvantages:4 Input C Too High4 Not Compatible with 50
Systems4 Must be Compensated
Advantages:4 High Input R4 Wide Dynamic Range4 Inexpensive4 Mechanically Rugged4 Low Input C vs 1X Probe
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Compensation Effects
50 kHz 50 kHz 50 kHz
1 s/div 1 s/div1 s/div
1 ms/div 1 ms/div 1 ms/div
COMPENSATEDUNDER
COMPENSATEDOVER
COMPENSATED
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Probe and Signal ImpedanceCan Reduce Rise Time on a Square Wave
Rise TimeIncreaseDue To
CapacitanceLoading
t r 2.2 (R source * Cin )~~ | (
Vsource
10 M C In
LGround Lead
Probe Tip
tRise Time 3 ns
R source 1 k
C in = 100 pF ~~220 nsec
for 1X Probe
22 nsecfor 10X Probe~~C in = 10 pF
100%90%
10%0%
100%90%
10%0%
Rise Time Waveform for the 1X Passive Probe
Rise Time Waveform forthe 10X Passive Probe
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Probe Lead Inductance and CapacitanceCan Cause Ringing on a Square Wave
Ring Frequency Usinga 10 pF Input Capacitance10X High Z Passive Probe
and 3 Lead Loop Diameter
For a 10X Passive Probe with C in = 10 pFand a 3 Lead Loop Diameter
Ring Amplitude ~~
Typical RingFrequency from3 Lead LoopDiameter
= ~~
50% Amplitude Error
100 - 160 MHz
| (
Vsource
10 M C In
Probe TipR source 50
Lsource LGround Lead
0.1-0.2 H
10 pF
1
2 LC
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Calculating Resonant Frequency
Resonant Frequency =1
2 LCIn practice, the resonant frequency should be >5 times the signals BWequivalent based on r ise and /or fall t imes. This gives a guideline to themaximum inductance (or maximum allowable probe-connection loop.)
Rules of Thumb:L 20 nH/inch for typical lead lengths around 0 - 3 (probe tip and ground lead)C Probe rated C plus 1 to 2 pF/inch of added lead length (probe tip)
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Probe Input Impedancevs. Frequency (RC Model Only)
Signal Frequency (Hz)
InputImpedance ( )
100M
10M
1M
100k
10k
1k
100
10
1
100 1k 10k 100k 1M 10M 100M 1G 10G
10X Z0
0.15 pF/500
Active1.0 pF/1 M
1X Passive
100 pF/1 M
10X Passive10 pF/10 M
10X Passiveprobe loadinggoes to 159
at 100 MHz
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Yesterday The RLC Era
Clock rates ~ 100s of MHzRisetimes ~ 1 to 2 nanoseconds
4 Capacitive loading ~ 1 pF probe required0 Active probes only
4 Inductive loading0 1 - 2 ground leads OK with low C
probe4 Otherwise, model as RLC circuit
0If ground lead > 20 If tip lead length added
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Typical Specifications
Type Bandwidth Rise Time Input C Input R
1X PassiveProbe 15 MHz 23 ns 100 pF 1 M
10X PassiveProbe
100 MHz -500 MHz
3.5 ns -700 ps
13 pF -8 pF 10 M
Z0 PassiveProbe
3 GHz -9 GHz
120 ps -40 ps
1 pF -0.15 pF 500
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50 Di ider Probe (Z0)
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50 Divider Probe (Z0)Model (10X)
450
0.5 pF
50 Vsource
R source
SCOPEDUT PROBE
LGround Lead
Probe Tip PROBE CABLE50
6 feet
|(
Disadvantages:4 Low Input R4 Must be Terminated into
50
Advantages:4 Low Input C4 Wide Bandwidth4 Compatible with 50 Systems
and 1 M with TerminationResistor
4 No Compensation Necessary
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Typical Specifications for Voltage Probes
Type Bandwidth Rise Time Input C Input R
1X PassiveProbe 15 MHz 23 ns 100 pF 1 M
10X PassiveProbe
100 MHz -500 MHz
3.5 ns -700 ps
13 pF -8 pF 10 M
Z0 PassiveProbe
3 GHz -9 GHz
120 ps -40 ps
1 pF -0.15 pF 500
Active Probe 500 MHz -6 GHz700 ps -100 ps
2 pF -0.4 pF
10 M -100 k
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Active Probe Model
Advantages:4 Low Input Capacitance4 Wide Bandwidth4
High Input R4 Compatible with 50 Systemsor 1 M with TerminationResis tor R t
4 No Compensation Necessary
Disadvantages:4 Higher Cost4 Limited Dynamic Range4 Mechanically Less Rugged4 Requires Power
1 M /50
SCOPEPROBE
PROBE CABLE50 Vsource
R source
DUT
LGround Lead R t50
6 feet|( |(
| ( BUFFER AMP
ProbeTip
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Active Probe Resonance: How Does Added
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Active Probe Resonance: How Does AddedInductance Affect the Measurement?
Trise of 1 ns ~ 350 MHz BW Equivalent
| (
Vsource
1 M C In
Probe TipR source 50
LGround Lead1.5 pF
Trise 1 ns
0.05 - 0.1 H(combined typical)
For a 10X Active Probe with C in = 1.5 pFand a 6 Ground Lead
Ring Frequency Usinga 1.5 pF Input Capacitance
10X High Z Active Probeand 6 Ground Lead.
=1
2 LC350 MHz to 500 MHzRing Frequency =
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Algebraic Difference Probing
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Algebraic Difference ProbingProvides Limited Differential Measurements
Advantages:4 Already Have Standard
Passive Probes
4 Wide Dynamic Range4 Mechanically Rugged4 Probes Test Points That Are
Large Distances Apart
Disadvantages:4 Very Low CMRR4 Few Matching Adjustments
in the Probe or the Amplifier 4 Must be LF Compensated
Scope Ch 2 Amplifier
Scope Ch 1 Amplifier
AnalogCH1 +
Inv Ch2
PROBES SCOPE
Typical CMRR100 : 1 @ DC
20 : 1 @ 1 MHz
| ( | (
| ( | (
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Passive Differential Probing
Advantages:4 Larger CMRR Than Standard
Passive Probes
4 Wide Dynamic Range4 Mechanically Rugged4 Probes Test Points That Are
Large Distances Apart
Disadvantages:4 Requires Differential Input4 Not Compatible with 50
Systems4 Must be Compensated
Typical CMRR10,000 : 1 @ DC
100 : 1 @ 20 MHz
SCOPE
Differential Amplifier
+
| (
PROBE
| (
| ( | (
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Active Differential Probing
Advantages:4 Lower Input Capacitance4 Higher CMRR vs Frequency
Than Passive DifferentialPair 4 Compatible With 50 and
1 M Single-ended Systems
Disadvantages:4 Higher Cost4 Limited Dynamic Range4 Mechanically Less Rugged
and Larger Size4 Requires Power
Typical CMRR10,000 : 1 @ DC
2000 : 1 @ 20 MHz
VOUT
PROBE SCOPE
Scope Ch 1 Amplifier
+
_
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Today The Transmission Line Era
Risetimes ~ 100s of picoseconds
4 All signals at these speeds propagatewithin transmission line systems
4 RLC lumped elements alone no longeradequate
4Model circuit as transmission line withlumped and distributed elements
4 Differential probing techniques need to beconsidered
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Signal Fidelity & Impedance
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Signal Fidelity & ImpedanceConsiderations4 Transient Response
0 Risetime / Fallt ime0 Overshoot / Undershoot
4 Signal Fidelity4 Loading
4 TDR Analysis Capability4 Impedance Characterization
0 Connectors, backplanes, etc.
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P bi Ch ll
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Probing Challenges
4 High-speed Signals4 Differential Clock and Data
4 Capacitance Effects4 Inductance Effects4 Grounding Effects4 Probe Loading4 Connectors4 Fine Pitch Parts4 Real Estate4 Density
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P b L di M t E l
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Probe Loading Measurement Examples
4 MeasurementSetup:
0 Source = Quickstart8, ~200ps TR signal
0 SMA directconnection to
CSA8000 andTDS74040 Probe input to
TDS7404
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Test Setup
CSA8000 TDS7404
Quickstart 8
Signal Board
Setup #1: Signal SMA-cabled to Sampling Scope
SMA Cables
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Example Probe Loading
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Example Probe Loading(Setup #1, Using CSA8000 Sampling Scope)
Reference Signal vs. P7240 Loading
Red = Reference
YellowYellow = probe loading effect(observed at SMA output)
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Test Setup
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Test Setup
Setup #2: Signal SMA-cabled toTDS7404 + Probe Connection
CSA8000 TDS7404
TekConnectProbe
Quickstart 8
Signal Board
SMA Cable
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Example Probe Loading
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p g(Setup #2 Using TDS7404)
Reference Signal vs. P7240 Probe Output (pink trace)
White = Reference(unloaded signal)
Pink = P7240 output(probe through response)
Green = probe loading(SMA output)
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Challenges of Connecting to the DUT
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Challenges of Connecting to the DUT
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Probe Tip Adapters
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Probe Tip Adapters
How Do Tip Adapters Affect Probe Performance?Tip Accessories Will Degrade Signal Fidelity.
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Effect of P7240 with 3 Inch Ground Lead + SMK4
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(Setup #2 Using TDS7404)
Pink = P7240 output(probe through response)
Green = probe loading(SMA output)
White = Reference(unloaded signal)
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Effect of P7240
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with Y-Lead Adapter and SMG50
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Effect of P7240 with Y-Lead Adapter and SMG50s
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(Setup #2 Using TDS7404)
White = Reference
Pink = P7240 output(OFF THE CHART)
Green = probe loading(SMA output)
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Example Probe Loading
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Example Probe Loading
P7330 Active Differential Probe
P7330 - ShowingVariable Spacing Adapter and Square Pin Adapter
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Example Probe Loading( l )
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(Setup #1, Using CSA8000 Sampling Scope)
Reference Signal vs. P7330 Loading (No Adapters)
Red = Reference
YellowYellow = probe loading
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Reference Signal vs. P7330 Output(S #2 U i TDS7404)
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(Setup #2 Using TDS7404)
White = Reference
Blue = P7330 output
Green = probe loading(SMA output)
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Effect of P7330 Square Pin Adapter
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q p
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Reference Signal vs. P7330 + Square PinAd t + Pi (S #2 U i TDS7404)
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Adapter + Pins (Setup #2 Using TDS7404)
White = Reference
Blue = P7330 output
Green = probe loading(SMA output)
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Effect of P7260 6 GHz Active Probe withPogo Ground
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Pogo Ground
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Reference Signal vs. P7260/TDS6604Probe/Oscilloscope Bandwidth = 6 GHz
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Probe/Oscilloscope Bandwidth = 6 GHz
Same asSetup #2
except withP7260 probeand TDS6604oscilloscope
White = Reference(loading effect not visible)
Pink = P7260 output
YellowYellow = probe loading(SMA output)
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Summary Probing Recommendations
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4 Choose probes with sufficient BW / Risetime:0 >3x BW of signal under test if possible0 Use Equivalent Edge BW of signal
4 Match probe to scope: consider probe + scope as a system4 Choose the right probe type:
0 Active vs. Passive vs. Z00
Single-ended vs. Differential4 Use the shortest circuit connections possible0 Limit additional L, C due to added tip accessories or leads0 Or allow for performance degradation due to adapters
4 Be aware of probe dynamic range limits4 Always de-skew for multi-channel timing measurements
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Resources
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