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FLOWING STONE CAVE GWK 524 Preliminary Sketch (Map in progress) Survey: 22 April 2001 Scott Carmine, John Klayer and Tom Moltz Sketch: 15 August 2001 Tom Moltz Elevation: 1360 Feet Length: 105 Feet Depth: 246 Feet Pit Depth 225 Feet Vertical Gear Required (pig tail helps) Floor Plan 0 12225 5’ Rig-in Entrance Legend: NSS Standard Cave Map Symbols TT Indicates Too Tight North mag 0 Feet 20 0 Feet 10 Profile TT TT 7 inches high (or less) ? Entrance 246 Columns attached to Stream dye traced to Blue Bird Spring Cave Loose Stepping Stone 50 foot long stalactite Splash-Down Mound of Creamy White Calcite and Pearls Scott Carmine looks up from below the rimstone dams. Photo Buddy Welker. Tom Moltz admires the creamy white calcite and pearls. Photo Buddy Welker. Cave Pearls. Salamander! Photo Buddy Welker. Chandelier on the wall.

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FLOWING STONE CAVE GWK 524

Preliminary Sketch (Map in progress) Survey: 22 April 2001 Scott Carmine, John Klayer and Tom Moltz Sketch: 15 August 2001 Tom Moltz

Elevation: 1360 Feet Length: 105 Feet Depth: 246 Feet Pit Depth 225 Feet Vertical Gear Required (pig tail helps)

Floor Plan

0

12’

225

5’ Rig-in

Entrance

Legend: NSS Standard Cave Map Symbols TT Indicates Too Tight

North mag

0

Feet

20

0

Feet

10

Profile

TT

TT

7 inches high (or less)

?

Entrance

246

Columns attached to

Stream dye traced to Blue Bird Spring Cave

Loose Stepping Stone

50 foot long stalactite

Splash-Down Mound of Creamy White Calcite and Pearls

Scott Carmine looks up from below the

rimstone dams. Photo Buddy Welker.

Tom Moltz admires the creamy white

calcite and pearls. Photo Buddy Welker.

Cave Pearls.

Salamander!

Photo Buddy Welker.

Chandelier

on the wall.

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Thanks! -

Special thanks go to the Athens Spe-

leological Survey for their $100 dona-

tion to MGG. It is marked for the

Glory Hole cleanup project. I would

also like to say that they were very

enjoyable and one of the more careful

and conscientious groups I've been

with in Glory Hole.

GLORY HOLE AND CONSERVATIVE

CAVING -

Buddy and I recently took another

group that was not so careful. Two

from the group decided they were

leaving the cave on their own, even

though they knew the gate was locked.

They also didn't think it was important

to tell us. The rest of the group waited

while Buddy and I searched for them.

They ended up going the totally wrong

direction. They were happy to see us

and apologized for being idiots. This

took a lot of time from the rest of the

group's trip.

The chain was left off both going and

coming through the walk through gate.

There were other unacceptable things

they did which I won't go into.

Through interaction with the group, I

came to the conclusion that most of

their mistakes were due to lack of cav-

ing education and experience. I have

taken groups that have been TAG cav-

ing for years and a lot of them lack the

Conservative ideas necessary for a

delicate cave.

A lot of cavers don't seem to under-

stand some basics like:

Stay on the trail. Don't tromp eve-

rywhere and spread the footprints.

Hey, I just wanted to let all of you know

that Bill Baily's dad passed away. Keep

him in your prayers.

Love, Angela

TAG Campsites

Wow, this was close!

I just read my June NSS News and saw

the announcement for TAG. I called.

Only 4 campsites were available. Only

one in the quiet zone, Site #2. I made the

reservations, MGG has Site #2 and Site

#54. Site #54 is near our ancestral MGG

hallowed ground on top of the hill across

from the sauna and showers, I'm not

sure where Site #2 is - but it is in the

quiet zone. I hope this pleases you with

children.

Your humble Chairman, John

I'm trying, I'm trying, (sigh), so hard. Contact John Klayer for more information.

Watch your head, and it isn't be-

cause I care about your head.

Leave the gates like you find them.

A simple idea but this one still hap-

pens. It happened previously at Glory

by an experienced caver and the cat-

tle got out. Needless to say there were

two unhappy landowners.

Do you think Glory would be open if

a car had hit a cow and someone

died? It may only take leaving the

gate open one more time.

There are two main reasons

for damage to caves and land-

owner relations, by people.

1. Not caring!

2. Not knowing any better!

Even a caver that is knowledgeable

and normally careful may compromise

their principals when tired or ex-

hausted. I have faced this situation and

found myself making compromises.

The message I want to send is that we

all need to try to do a better job of tak-

ing care of our most valuable resource.

SHIRT RAFFLE -MGG received a

shirt in the mail from the SCCi. It was

a gift for our donation to the Fox

Mountain Preserve. It's a nice shirt.

MGG members that pay their dues

during the TAG Cave-in meeting or

before can buy a chance at the shirt for

a couple of dollars. The money will go

to the treasury to help offset expenses. Letter from the Editor My assistant and I are asking for articles and trip

reports to go into the newsletter. If you have any

other information you would like printed, SEND IT

IN! To: Minter Goodson (Editor)

836 Orange Park Avenue

Lakeland, Fl 33801

Email to: [email protected] Credits Please do not use any articles, artwork, or photos in this newsletter without the author's, art-

ist's, or photographer's permission (With the excep-

tion of NSS internal organizations.) All rights re-served. All Artwork and Articles are credited. All

without credits are the work of Andrea & Minter

Goodson or Tom Moltz.

CCOVEROVER:: Map by Map by Tom Moltz. Photos by Buddy Tom Moltz. Photos by Buddy

Welker. Welker.

The Grotto chairman in his Glory 2001.

Normal Vision - CAVE PACK

SPELEOVISION -

GEOLOGY

SPECIMEN

RECEPTACLE

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Flowing Stone Cave, GWK 524

By Tom Moltz

Next to Ellison's Cave 'Flowing Stone

Cave' has the deepest pit in Georgia. It was

discovered by Scott Carmine, John Klayer

and Tom Moltz as a result of the Karst Sur-

vey initiated by the Pigeon Mountain

Grotto. It is in the 140 acres Vulcan Miner-

als wants to destroy. It was dug open in the

bottom of a sink that had no lead, no air-

flow, or hole of any kind suggesting an

entrance...pure speleo-vision.

It's a beautiful pristine pit with cave pearls,

fifty-foot stalactites, creamy white mounds

of calcite, and a flowing orange slope of

rim stone dams the water flows over in

smooth rippling sheets. The water flows

over the long massive stalactites in an even

sheet dropping onto the creamy white cal-

cite, which is full of pearls. The orange

flow stone has ripples about one quarter

inch apart running parallel to each other.

There is a large pool of water (unless it has

been dry) sporting salamanders as long as

eight inches. Fifty foot high columns hug

the wall. A stream leaves the cave through

a narrow passage that is impassable at this

point.

The water flow has been die traced to Blue

Bird Spring. There is a series of sinks, run-

ning north from this cave at the same eleva-

tion. These are good leads to say the least.

There is surely a serious cave system be-

low. I say this because in my estimation

more water flows from Blue Bird Spring as

does from the Blue Hole.

In Conclusion:

If I didn't know better I would think that

Flowing Stone is alive and revealed herself

to us. Its like she had to choose the lesser of

two evils; being abused by cavers over be-

ing turned into mortar mix.

I personally had no desire to turn this cave

in. We knew we had to in case it would be

of some help in saving Pigeon Mountain.

From near the beginning, we let DNR and

PMG know about this and let them call all

the shots. I have never dealt with a more

Other Information

>Using a pigtail makes it safer and

easier to get through the narrow

entrance.

>If the water is flowing well, you

need signals to communicate.

>Sitting on the ledge, place the rope

toward the middle to right side.

This will keep the rope off the wall

of the pit.

>I would suggest padding the tree.

It will catch a lot of abuse over the

years. If you go off the flowstone at

the bottom, to look at the stream

dig, you will pick up a lot of mud.

The dig lead is very tight and leads

to a small hole through which the

water leaves the cave.

>Allen Padgett has important park-

ing and check-in procedures to be

followed.

Jim Ozier searches for cave critters

in the bottom of Flowing Stone

Cave.

I can only hope and encourage

cavers will respect this and all

caves. Once you get a little mud

down the tracks, it starts spreading a

little each trip. It spreads until you

don't even know what you're walk-

ing on. I hope that future visitors

will pleasantly surprise me.

Some data:

Pit depth: 225'

Pit depth from 'rig in' point: 220'

Pit depth from low side of ledge:

212'. The ledge is narrow and

steeply slopes toward the pit.

Cave Depth: 246'

Horizontal Cave: 105'

Tom Moltz with his staff of

enlightenment used to punch holes

in the tops of Dome Pits.

>When you make it to Flowing

Stone, please stay on the trail and

help protect this great cave. Bet-

ter yet dig into more cave in the

nearby sinks and find the cave

system and endangered life that

will help save this great re-

source...Pigeon Mountain.

Walking through the pools or off

the trail may endanger a delicate

ecosystem and beauty of the cave.

Ed Pratt photographing in flowing

Stone Cave. Buddy in another lead.

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ACCESS TO FLOWING STONE By Allen Padgett

The recently announced Flowing

Stone Cave is located on the Crock-

ford-Pigeon Mountain Wildlife Man-

agement Area. Access is currently

open but certain laws and rules apply.

Each trip will need to fill out a cave

card (new green ones) located at the

small shed just inside the gate at the

beginning of Blue Hole Road. The

parking place is just down the same

road past the DNR building. Walk

across the dam and then up the moun-

tain and around the quarry. DO NOT

EVER walk through the quarry

property. They will have to prosecute

you for safety reasons and DNR will

close the cave as a result of your ac-

tions. DO NOT EVER approach

adjacent landowners for permission

to cross. They have been contacted

and will deny permission and report

you to DNR, the cave will be closed

because of your actions. There will

soon be a flagged trail to help keep

everyone out of the quarry and on the

correct path to the cave.

Once at the cave the tight entrance is

often rigged with one main rope and a

short rope through the constriction to

the ledge just inside. This short rope

presents a hazard if a knot is not

placed in it each and every time.

Someone will rappel off the end think-

ing they are rigged into the long rope.

At the bottom there are many fragile

areas and your footprints are the threat

more than the quarry. Clean your

boots, stay on the flagging trails. The

lowest point in the cave is muddy and

if you must go there remove your

boots before walking back to the rope.

Cave pearls are fragile, do not touch

them the oil and dirt from your skin

will kill them. Look but do not touch.

Photographers are a real threat be-

cause they have to get that "special

shot" they feel that it is OK to go off

trail just this once or set up over there

to get the best angle. If a photographer

is on your trip watch them and

make sure they stay on the path. If

you are the photographer remember

just because you only look through

the view finder does not make the

damage go away.

Flowing Stone Cave is an excep-

tionally beautiful cave and as cavers

we will damage it by visiting it.

Minimize the damage, keep trips

small, watch

your footprints, don't go back if you

have been before. Don't take new

vertical cavers here they don't ap-

preciate the fragile nature of this

cave and will bring others who un-

derstand even less.

The existence of this cave will not

by itself stop the proposed quarry

expansion. Continue to study and

explore karst areas and caves may

be saved in the future.

Safe Cavin, Allen Padgett,

NSS 10371LFM Georgia Department of Natural Re-

sources

QUARRY RELATED TRIP REPORTS

By Tom Moltz 14 April 2001:

I believe this was the date of the

salamander search led by John Jen-

sen. The only cavers that showed up

to help were Scott Carmine, John

Klayer and I. The group split up with

the three of use and one Herpetolo-

gist going together. We told them to

look for caves while counting bugs

and we would count bugs while

looking for caves. We counted sala-

manders while heading to our desti-

nation (the two sinks that looked

most promising).

We had success in the lower of the

two sinks. We dug several feet

through earth and root to get to a

narrow crack in the rock. We took

turns hanging upside down by our

ankles to dig in our narrow diameter

hole. One time, while I was head

down, I moved the rock that revealed

the sound of water running. It

sounded like a stream about 30 feet

down. I was excited to say the least,

even though I had no idea what

really awaited us. The other group

had caught up to us by now. John

Jensen was at the top when I came

up for air and I said, "Guys there's

nothing here, we gotta go dig some-

where else." Scott and John K.

looked at me kind of puzzled, then I

came down with an uncontrollable

grin and told them what I heard.

It took us four hours to dig into the

cave. Our 100-foot rope just got us

past a narrow ledge. Below, I saw

the darkest darkness I had ever seen

(next to Sub Stream Cave). Rocks

fell for over 3 seconds. Out of rope

and out of time we had to head home

till the next weekend.

22 April 2001:

We had left our new find the week-

end before due to lack of rope and

time. So the 22nd we made it down

the pit in total amazement. I won't

bore you with describing its rare and

(ABOVE) Two large salamanders

near the bottom of the drop in

Flowing Stone Cave.

(BELOW) Looking down into the

pit from the ledge near the

entrance. Photo by Ed Pratt.

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pristine beauty since I described it

already. One thing that sticks in

my mind about the first rappel was

that my eyes played tricks on me.

About fifty feet down I thought I

was seeing a pool of water with

ripples on the surface, yet under

me was darkness. I soon realized it

was the rippling of small wavelets

coming over the massive flow-

stone that holds the fifty-foot sta-

lactites.

We surveyed the pit and checked

the stream lead at the bottom that

looked really low and grim.

29 April 2001:

John, Scott and I took video of the

pit and dug on the stream lead.

05 May 2001:

Buddy Welker, Scott and I made a

photo trip and looked at the grim

dig.

06 May 2001:

We continued the photo trip with

help from Brian Williamson and

Jerry Wallace. We started putting

down some flagging tape. No one

could get up the nerve to support

the dig.

I believe it was about this time

that we told Allen Padgett and

soon after this that Scott took him

to the cave. We had also been try-

ing to get DNR biologist to work it

into their schedule (which they

were trying to do).

The following week sometime, we

turned this over to the Pigeon

Mountain Grotto brass, as was the

suggestion from DNR manage-

ment.

It was also about this time that

some PMG members conducted a

die trace connecting the cave to

Blue Bird Spring.

25 May 2001:

Jim Ozier (DNR State Biologist)

conducted a biota survey of the

cave. Minter Goodson and Ed Pratt

joined Scott and I for this trip.

All the little pools we were walking

over had little cave critters in them

that we never noticed. Keep that in

mind.

27 May 2001:

Scott, Ed, John, Varie Rustin and I

worked on the grim lead. I was en-

couraged but we were all getting tired

of laying in a body sized wet tube dig-

ging in front of our head with water

dripping on our face. I might add that

John was at his very best this day. He

dug hard and made a lot of progress.

09 June 2001:

Scott, Ed, John and I opened up the

stream enough for Scott to get

through. A few feet away the water

left through a small bedrock hole.

We walked out a different direction,

as always, and John found a 31-foot

deep pit. You need to rappel the last

15 feet. He broke a rib getting out. The

entrance is a lot bigger now. He still

hasn't named it or turned it in so

maybe this posting will motivate him

to do so before you do.

(Note: This has since been named

"Broken Rib Pit")

04 August 2001:

Ed Pratt, Buddy Welker and I found

three new caves near the Quarry area.

1. Slimy Slot which has over a hun-

dred 'slimy' salamanders in it.

2. Slip Slot which has a narrow en-

trance and a 16 foot rappel.

3. Chicken Slot which has a dirt en-

trance and one dirt wall down a very

narrow chimney.

18 August 2001:

Scott Carmine, Ed Pratt, and I got into

Falling Stone Cave which is near

Flowing Stone and had some bad air,

hi CO2 or something. Also noted were

a few large 'Slimy' salamanders

Buddy Welker, Varie Rustin, and

John Klayer had helped us move some

rocks in the entrance two weeks ear-

lier.

(ABOVE)

Tom Moltz walking near the edge

of the flow stone at the bottom of

the pit.

Photo by Ed Pratt.

(BELOW) Flow stone blending into top of 40-

50 foot long stalactites.

Photo by Ed Pratt.

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BROKEN RIB PIT

Legend: NSS Standard Cave Map Symbols TT Indicates Too Tight

Profile View Looking NE

Elevation: 1356 Feet Length: 8 Feet Depth: 31 Feet Pit Depth 31 Feet

Vertical Gear Required (upper portion free climbable) Location: Pigeon Mt. Ga. Lafayette, 7.5’ Topo

Plan View

Tape Survey by: Scott Carmine, John Klayer, Tom Moltz, Ed Pratt 09 June 2001 Distance Accurate to .25 feet Azimuth Accuracy Uncertain

Drafted by: Tom Moltz 10 September 2001; Rev: Preliminary Sketch Map

0

Feet

5

Entrance

0

Feet

5

TT

TT

Northmag

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FALLING STONE CAVE

Legend: NSS Standard Cave Map Symbols TT Indicates Too Tight

Profile Views

Elevation: 1381 Feet Length: 25 Feet Depth: 35 Feet Pit Depth: N/A

Location: Pigeon Mt., Ga. Lafayette 7.5’ Topo

Entrance

Northmag

0

Feet

5

Plan View

0

Feet

5

Tape and Compass Survey by: Scott Carmine, Tom Moltz, Ed Pratt 18 August 2001 Accuracy: Distance ±.5 Feet, Azimuth ±5°

Drafted by: Tom Moltz 07 September 2001; Rev: (Preliminary Sketch)

TT TT

Profile looking North Profile looking East

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A WEEKEND TO REMEMBER By Ed Pratt

August 9, 2001

I took Friday off and drove up to

North Alabama Thursday evening. I

met Tom and Buddy at the Sequoyah

campground around 10 PM. Tom and

Buddy had spent Thursday checking

out a couple of leads on Fox Mountain

that didn't pan out. Friday we drove

over to Pigeon Mountain. We hiked a

mile or so up the mountain and spent

the rest of the day digging on a couple

of possible leads. Tom even let me

carry the STAFF OF ENLIGHTEN-

MENT for a little while. We dug a 4

foot deep hole in the bottom of a small

sink after we felt some air flow. That

got to the point of diminishing returns

so we moved down the hill to another

hole with air flow coming out. Too

many big rocks and no more luck

there. We hiked back down the moun-

tain and bathed in Blue Hole Spring,

very cold but refreshing.

Saturday was a very good day for

finding caves in Georgia. Our original

plan was to ridge walk up the side of

the mountain and around to a sink

right beside the recently discovered

Flowing Stone cave. On the way up

the hill we ran across an area that

yielded three new caves to the 530 or

so known caves of this cave shy state,

meaning we discovered over 1/2% of

all of the known caves in Georgia

last weekend.

Two of the caves we found were very

very small. So small that only Buddy

could get all the way in. One of the

three was my first whole cave discov-

ery. Since I discovered this hole in the

ground I have naming rights and I

am not sure what to call the thing. I

tried to squeeze into the thing but

didn't have a lot of confidence that I

could get back out when my back

was against the wall and my ribs

hung up on the rock. I was climb-

ing down so gravity would have

helped me wiggle in but getting out

would have probably involved some

kind of rescue operation. The cave

rescue unit in the area gets enough

practice so I decided to let Buddy

have the honors.

Tom found the best cave out of the

three and is tentatively calling it

Slimy Cave after the "slimy" sala-

manders that are much in abun-

dance in this cave. Tom gave me

the honors of being the first to

descend into the cave, mainly be-

cause the cave looked like it re-

quired vertical gear and he didn't

want to mess with it since it also

looked like about a 1000 other little

dirt holes we have explored with no

reward. After I was in the hole I

quickly discovered that the vertical

gear was not required, just a quick

little chimney down. The cave

turned out to be only about 60 feet

in total length/depth but it is a neat

little cave. I told Tom and Buddy

they should come down and check

it out but at first Tom was dubious

since he has pulled stunts on so

many other cavers, talking them

into a dirt hole to nowhere. The

cave was full of more salamanders

than any of us had seen in one spot.

You had to be careful not to bump

the walls for fear of squishing one.

I had to move several out of the

way so I could chimney to the top

of one part to see if there was any

more passage. The real find was a

blastoid fossil in the cave. This is a

rare fossil to find in a cave. I found

one reference that stated these lived

320-360 million years ago. There

was a trumpet fossil on the opposite

wall.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/

echinodermata/blastoidea.html

About 4PM Saturday one of those

weird events occurred with human's

converging on one spot. Tom,

Buddy and I had meandered up the

mountain almost at random. We had

just finished surveying the third

cave and were getting our gear to-

gether. John and Varie were sup-

posed to join us sometime that day

but the last time they had connected

was around 10 that morning by cell

phone. Tom had his phone on but we

never heard the call. I had done

some wandering near the cave and

found that we were about 20 feet

from a clearly marked trail. Tom

deduced that this was the newly cre-

ated trail to Flowing Stone cave.

While we were sitting there John and

Varie just happened up the trail. Not

10 minutes later a group from the

Pigeon Mountain Grotto arrived at

the same spot from the opposite di-

rection. They were lead by Allen

Padgett with Scott also in the group.

I didn't know any others. The pigeon

mountain group had been digging on

a sink hole all day hoping to repeat

John, Scott and Tom's feat of finding

a beautiful cave (Flowing Stone)

merely by digging in the bottom of a

sink hole (sheeze - only an idiot

would try that). They alleged that

they had dug a total of 9.5 feet of

tunnel in search of a cave in that one

sinkhole.

Since it was only 4PM and the day

was young John, Varie, Buddy, Tom

and I decided to head up the moun-

tain to search for an old lead of

John's. We didn't find anything sub-

stantial except when we arrived at

our original destination, which was

the sink beside Flowing Stone. We

dug for a minute in a new location

and saw some promising results in

the way of air and some visible signs

of passage. We stumbled back to

camp about the time it got dark. John

and Varie did not camp but, bless

their hearts, they did go and buy us a

couple of bags of ice to keep essen-

tials cold.

Ed, Tom, and the Staff of Enlightenment.

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Sunday morning we tried to meet up

with Scott. After finally locating the

young whippersnapper he informed us

that he had too much beer Saturday

night to go with us. Tom, Buddy and I

parked at the Smalley's and made our

way the 0.7 miles up the hill to the

sink beside flowing stone. I busted

my arse on the way up but have noth-

ing but a bad bruise to show for my

clumsiness. We spent the morning

beating, drilling and prying rock.

Tom's "plug-and-feather"

system of breaking rock paid off at

first with the removal of a fairly good

size chunk of rock. We had already

decided to leave fairly early so as not

to get back home too late. We were

close to getting into the cave but more

rock had to be broken out of the way.

We managed to get three of Tom's

plug-and-feathers stuck in the rock.

We tried to chip our way into the cave

at that point.

Around our scheduled time to go we

heard hooting and voices. Cavers

are pretty quiet about their digs until

they can turn them in and claim them

so we had to shut Buddy up. About 3-

6 cavers had shown up at Flowing

stone not 75 feet from us. We were

trying to get Buddy to shut up, but

meanwhile Buddy was trying to beat

his way into the mountain with an 8

pound hammer. I believe we were

successful at remaining undetected.

Luckily the other group sounded like a

stampede of buffalo. We slowly, but

quietly, covered our dig then packed

our gear. Buddy had to sacrifice three

vienna sausage in a can that was too

far too reach without revealing our-

selves. We snuck off through the

woods with hopes of returning soon.

We were grateful that we did not have

to go to battle to protect our dig.

Ed P CaveRatt

Glory Hole Tourist trip for

Will Hursey By Tom Moltz

June 23, 2001

Tom Moltz, Buddy Welker, Will

Hursey, Phil Smith, Brandon Webb,

Thai Lam, Tim Dembowski, Victor

Grimaldi, Ed Strabel

We burned the lock off, which had

been jammed with something.

Burned both sides by looking at it

with mirror. It was behind the plate

we had welded on earlier The lock

was hard to see and get to. I had

bought a welding outfit Thursday.

Buddy was coming with Jack’s

(Jack ) welder and bringing Link.

Buddy got there late without Link

who bailed out at the last minute.

Buddy is staying at Brian's.

Buddy got there after we had the

lock off. We got a good start at

about 10:30 (into the cave). It

seemed like a good group. Brandon

and Thai had been to PJ's with me.

Tim (long hair yellow hat) had been

to PJ's several times looking for the

waterfall.

We set up 3 sprayers and they did

some cleaning. Buddy and I redid a

lot of flagging and started making

plans to reactivate the cleaning pro-

gram. We gave them the tour and

visited the Granny star on the way

out. All but Phil went. Buddy, Will

and I checked our dig at the end . I

finally got Buddy to check out the

last dig in the terminal room under

the big rock.

When we got out of the GS lead

Thai and Victor (I think) had left.

Brandon had gone after them. Bran-

don was in the crawls at the right

turn to the main cave. I had changed

sand damns on the way out to re-

flect our new route. I had told Thai

what we were doing so. I was sur-

prised to see that the dam that lead

out not crossed. Why the idiots de-

cided they were leaving I don't

know. They new the gate was

locked.

We regrouped and everyone

waited past Birth Canal, while Buddy

and I searched for the Bozo's. It was

hard to believe they would go deeper

into the cave when they got through

the crawls and saw where they were. I

knew what a couple of nervous, pan-

icking idiots would do though, so we

continued our search. They were up

the breakdown near the formations

and glad to see us. I gave them a little

rash but not bad. They new they

screwed up.

I took Will to Diamond Room area on

the way out while the others were

leaving. We caught up with them at

the entrance. Will got the grand tour.

He is welcome to go with me any

time. I would take the others too. They

just have a lot to learn like I still do.

The chain on the field gate near the

cave had been left off on the way in

and the way out. These guys didn't

have a clue. They were fixing to pull

out of the field without us until I

stopped them. We visited Granny. She

was doing well. I left a key with

Linda. My back was really starting to

hurt.

Will said he was through planning

trips for others. He asked for me to

keep him informed if something came

up he might be interested in. He also

gave me $40 for cave cleaning stuff or

lights. I reluctantly took it but feel bad

for doing so. I will use it for the cause.

Ed Pratt drags his hog of a pack

through the sand crawls in Glory

Hole Cave on a recent trip.

Salamander

in Flowing

Stone Cave.

Photo

By Buddy

Welker

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CHICKEN SLOT CAVE

Legend: NSS Standard Cave Map Symbols TT Indicates Too Tight

Body Length Survey by: Tom Moltz, Ed Pratt, Buddy Welker O4 August, 2001 Accuracy: Distance ± 1 Foot, Azimuth ±10°

Drafted by: Tom Moltz 10 September 2001; Rev: (Preliminary Sketch)

Elevation: 1150 Feet Length: 30 Feet Depth: 33 Feet Pit Depth: N/A

Location: Pigeon Mt., Ga. Lafayette 7.5’ Topo Geology: Dirt and Limestone

Plan View

Entrance (All Dirt and Root)

TT

Northmag

Profile View (Looking NE)

Danger! This wall is all dirt.

0

Feet

5

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SLIMY SLOT CAVE

Idealized Profile

Plan View

Entrance

0

Feet

5

0

Feet

10

Northmag

TT

TT

TT

TT

Silt Stone

Limestone

Legend: NSS Standard Cave Map Symbols TT Indicates Too Tight 12’

Tape and Compass Survey by: Tom Moltz, Ed Pratt, Buddy Welker 04 August 2001 Accuracy: Distance ±.5 Foot, Azimuth ±2°

Drafted by: Tom Moltz 10 September 2001; Rev: (Preliminary Sketch)

Elevation: 1155 Feet Length: 47 Feet Depth: 35 Feet Pit Depth: N/A

Location: Pigeon Mt., Ga. Lafayette 7.5’ Topo Geology: Limestone and Silt Stone

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SLIP SLOT CAVE

Legend: NSS Standard Cave Map Symbols TT Indicates Too Tight

Body Length Survey by: Buddy Welker & Ed Pratt 04 August 2001 Accuracy: Distance ±1 Foot, Azimuth ±5°

Drafted by: Tom Moltz 09 September 2001; Rev: (Preliminary Sketch)

Elevation: 1178 Feet Length: 30 Feet Depth: 18 Feet Pit Depth: 16 Feet Location: Pigeon Mt., Ga. Lafayette 7.5’ Topo Geology: Limestone Vertical Gear and Slim Fast Required

Plan View

Entrance North

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0

Feet

5

TT

TT

TT

Very narrow (~ 8”)

Profile View (Looking NW)

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Sketch From Memory Explored on 26 November 1999 by Tom Moltz and Minter Goodson

Elevation: 1470 Feet Length: 46 Feet Depth: 22 Feet Geologic Formation: Sandstone Topo: Lafayette 7 1/2 Minute Normal cave Gear Required

Legend: NSS Standard Cave Map Symbols TT Indicates Too Tight

DANGLING LEGS CAVE GWK 505

DANGLING LEGS CAVE - By Tom Moltz

Keith Minor had this narrow lead in a sandstone cliff and got Scott Carmine to help him. This was early in the

winter of 98, I believe. I loaned Scott three of my early plug and feather sets which got hopelessly stuck in the

rock. This was not their fault, it was the early stage of my plug and feathering, so I take full responsibility. They

later went back to get them out and break rock, with no success. In the meantime, I had six new sets of plug and

feathers made. A year went by and Scott said go ahead and get them (he had moved to Florida). Thanksgiving

weekend of 1999, Minter and I tried out the new plug and feathers which worked like a charm. This hard sand-

stone sounded like a glacier moving as it cracked. Once it started cracking, we stopped hitting the plug and feath-

ers. The rock continued cracking for a couple of seconds audibly, after we quit hammering. I haven't heard this

happen again. This gave us a deep narrow canyon, which we couldn't walk away from. It was very tight going

through the hole and tighter coming back. There were no footholds on the walls and with my body sticking out,

my legs were 'dangling' while I squirmed through. Pain and bruises left, but sweet memories remain! AS far as I

know, Scott Carmine is the only other person to visit the cave. I'm not describing the passage here since you have

a map.

Northmag

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KIDDY CAMP AND CAVE #2. By Tom Moltz

I have had a blast on these trips.

These kids are funny and a lot of fun

to take caving. On July 14 we went to

Hurricane cave, parking behind Sues

Market. A group leaving had seen a

large rattlesnake on the trail. This

added a little tension to our group

while walking through the kudzu. The

kudzu was so thick you couldn't see a

noticeable trail. It was like a jungle to

the kids, being over their heads.

The tunnel under the interstate was

covered in soupy cow doo doo. Every-

one was gasping and complaining go-

ing through the tunnel. They got sicker

when I exclaimed how good it

smelled. As you can guess the ladders

over the fences were covered in fresh

cow poopy too. In the cave, the group

had a great time. We made it to the dry

room, rested, and headed out. Some

gagging was heard on our return

through the tunnel. I tried to convince

them to walk back through the tunnel

barefooted but had no takers.

Back at Sequoya we swam. In be-

tween performing world-class dives

with the kids, they tried to drown me.

That is...when Shark Boy and Shark

Girl weren't trying to eat me alive.

Soon they were inventing some new

dives of their own.

The group consisted of: Tom and

Carol Moltz, Autumn Orman, Minter,

Andrea, Evan and Sarah Goodson,

Matt, Debbie, Sarah and Aubry Moak,

Brian and Eric Williamson.

(Above) Tom and Autumn enjoy a cup

of potato soup in Cedar ridge cave.

(Right) Brian in Hurricane cave.

(Above) Evan, Sarah, Andrea, Au-

tumn,Chris, Josh, Carly, Luke, Brian,

Eric, and Tom in Howard’s Waterfall

Cave in June 2001. (Above right) Evan,

Carly, and T.John in Sequoyah Caverns

Big Mouth Entrance June 2001. (Right)

Evan in Hurricane Cave. (Below Left)

Debbie and Tom In Cedar Ridge Crys-

tal Cave (Below Center) Evan and Au-

tumn in Hurricane Cave (Below Right)

Aubry, Sarah Moak, Eric,

Evan,Autumn Carol, Tom, Matt, Deb-

bie and Brian In Cedar Ridge Crystal

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MGG MEMBERSHIP ROSTER FOR 2001 (WITHOUT ADDRESSES)

ANGELA BAILY REG Member

BILL BAILY REG Member

DON GOING REG Member

ANDREA GOODSON REG Member

EVAN GOODSON Reg Member

MINTER GOODSON REG Member

SARAH GOODSON Reg Member

TRAVIS GUY Reg Member

JOHN KLAYER CHART Member

CAROL MOLTZ CHART Member

TOM MOLTZ CHART Member

AUTUMN ORMAN Reg Member

ED PRATT reg Member

JERRY REEVES REG Member

VARIE RUSTIN REG Member

T JOHN SCHLIESSER REG Member

BUDDY WELKER REG Member

BRIAN WILLIAMSON reg Member

Travis,

Tom and

Autumn at

the end of a

big caving

weekend. <(left)

Tom and

Buddy do-

ing what

comes natu-

ral y . (right)>