ESD FE/PE Info SessionObtaining your Professional Engineer License in Michigan

FE/PE Information Session Agenda

• Welcome • Overview of State Requirements and

Licensing Process• Discussion of both Fundamentals of

Engineering Exam and the Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE) Examination• Exam Specifications and Requirements • Group Q&A

What is a Professional Engineer?

• A Professional Engineer (P.E.) is a person who is licensed to practice engineering in a particular state or US territory after meeting all requirements of the law.

• To practice in multiple states or territories, the P.E. must be licensed in each state in which he/she wishes to practice.

• Some states have reciprocal licenses, meaning if you are a registered engineer in one state, that by providing the necessary documentation, you will meet the new jurisdiction’s requirements.

Professional Engineer

• What makes a Professional Engineer different from an engineer?

• Only a licensed engineer may prepare, sign, seal, and submit engineering plans and drawings to a public authority for approval, or seal engineering work for public and private clients.

• PEs shoulder the responsibility for not only their work, but also for the lives affected by that work and must hold themselves to high ethical standards of practice.

Advantages of PE Licensure• Ensures a level of technical competence above and beyond an engineering degree.• The PE designation helps you stand out among your peers.• PE’s typically earn more than non PE’s.

• PE’s may be afforded more opportunities for advancement within private corporations or local and state government.

• PE’s may testify in court as an expert witness.• PE’s may market consulting or engineering services to the public.• Having a PE gives you flexibility if your career is in transition, or you are planning to retire

from your current job, because you can work for yourself or become a partner in a firm.• You can become incorporated and obtain professional liability insurance.

Where are we at today?

• How many have taken their FE exam already?

• Who has a PhD?

• Who obtained an undergraduate engineering degree from a country other than the U.S.?

• Is everyone planning to get their license in Michigan?

Who is NCEES?

The National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying® is a national nonprofit organization dedicated to advancing professional licensure for engineers and surveyors. It develops, administers, and scores the examinations used for engineering and surveying licensure in the United States.

NCEES.org is where you go first to register for taking the FE or PE exam.

Create a Free NCEES.org Account Online

Overview

• All states and jurisdictions have “registration laws” governing the Practice of Engineering.

• In Michigan, the governing body is LARA – the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.

• To become licensed, engineers must complete a four-year engineering degree from an ABET college, work for at least four years, pass two intensive competency exams and earn a license from their state’s licensure board.

• Then, to retain their licenses, PEs must continually maintain and improve their skills throughout their careers with continuing ed. 30 hours every two years.

Education, Experience & Examinations

• Education • Bachelor of Science in Engineering Degree

from an EAC/ABET accredited program. • ABET is the Accreditation Board for

Engineering and Technology). • If you received your degree in a non-ABET

institution, additional steps are required.

• Pass the FE (Fundamentals of Engineering) Exam.• become an EIT (Engineer in in Training)

• 4 Years Experience (counted after bachelor’s degree is earned).

• Pass PE the (Principles and Practice of Engineering) Exam in your chosen discipline. (This may not be the discipline you were assigned in school). Examples...

A Degree from Outside the U.S.

Every U.S. state and foreign entity that offers NCEES exams has unique requirements that examinees must meet before they are allowed to sit for their exams. To begin the registration process, select the state and foreign entity you plan to register with, and read about their application process.

Any appeals should go before the Michigan Board of Professional Engineers 611 West Ottawa Building (POB 30004), Lansing, MI 48909(517) 241-0199 Email: BPL-BoardSupport@michigan.govWeb: www.michigan.gov/bpl

• Credential Evaluation of degree from outside U.S. is available through NCEES – National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying. If you have a private service do it, you still need to double-check with NCEES. • https://ncees.org/records/ncees-credentials-

evaluations/credential-evaluations-faqs/

• Then, it will need to be approved again through the state licensing board. In Michigan this is LARA.

• Both of these steps are critical, as sometimes a state will have stricter requirements than NCEES, but sometimes they will be more lax. Examples...

Degree Verification Process

Go to NCEES.org for a Credentialing Evaluation. There is a fee of $350 for an initial evaluation and $100 for a re-evaluation, in addition to a $50 administration fee.

NCEES - National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying 280 Seneca Creed Rd. Seneca, SC 29678

WEBSITE: NCEES.org PHONE: 1-800-250-3196

Credentialing Evaluation of a Degree

A Degree Outside U.S. – What to do Next?

MICHIGAN:Contact the licensing board for any for licensure information, questions or special requirements.

Michigan Board of Professional Engineers Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (LARA)BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING

• Mailing Address: Director Prof Licensing:Ottawa Building Orlene Hawks611 W. Ottawa Assistant: Cynthia RoweP.O. Box 30004 Phone: 517-335-9700Lansing, MI 48909www.michigan.gov/bpl

Any appeals should go before the

Michigan Board of Professional Engineers611 W. Ottawa Building POB 30004Lansing, MI 48909

Phone: (517) 335-9700

Michigan Board of Professional Engineers

WHO ARE THEY?

The Michigan Board of Professional Engineers was created under Article 20 of Public Act 299 of 1980, as amended, to license and regulate the practice of professional engineering in Michigan. Article 20 defines professional engineering as professional services, such as consultation, investigation, evaluation, planning, design or review of material and completed phases of work in construction, alteration or repair in connection with a public or private utility, structure, building, machine, equipment, process, work or project when the professional service requires the application of engineering principles or data. The Board works with the Department to oversee the practice of licensed professional engineers.

Michigan Board of Professional Engineers

Michigan Board of Professional Engineers

The Board consists of 9 members: 5 professional engineers, 1 architect who is a member of the Board of Architects, 1 Professional Surveyor who is a member of the Board of Professional Surveyors, and 2 public members. Each member serves a 4-year term.

MEETING SCHEDULE 202009/09/2020 Wednesday 11:00 a.m. Ottawa Building UL - Room 3

*** This meeting will be held virtually now ***

Structure of the Exams• PE - with the exception of the Structural exam, each exam is eight hours

long, consisting of two 4-hour sessions administered in a single day with a lunch break. There are 40 multiple-choice questions per session. The exam is a breadth and depth examination. You will work the breadth exam in the morning.

• The FE exam is a computer-based test that contains 110 multiple-choice questions given over two consecutive sessions. Each session contains approximately 55 multiple-choice questions that are grouped together by knowledge area (subject, topic, etc.). FE exam includes 110-questions. The exam appointment time is 6 hours long and includes Nondisclosure agreement (2 minutes); Tutorial (8 minutes); Exam (5 hours and 20 minutes); Scheduled break (25 minutes).

Exam Specifications

https://ncees.org/engineering/fe/

• FE Chemical

• FE Civil

• FE Electrical and Computer

• FE Environmental

FE Industrial and Systems

• FE Mechanical

• FE Other Disciplines

PE - Discipline Specific Tests

• Agricultural and Biological Engineering

• Architectural Engineering• Chemical• Civil*• Control Systems• Electrical and Computer*• Environmental*• Fire Protection

• Industrial and Systems• Mechanical*• Metallurgical and Materials• Mining and Mineral Processing• Naval Architecture and Marine• Nuclear• Petroleum• Structural

Exam Sub-Discipline Specifications

FE Reference Handbook

The NCEES FE Reference Handbook is the only reference material that can be used during the exam. You will be provided with an electronic reference handbook during the exam. For access prior to your exam, you may either purchase a hard copy or download a free electronic copy.

Register or log in to NCEES.org MyNCEES to download your free copy of the FE Reference Handbook.

Study Materials• FE/PE Review Book (many types) – see

resource list on ESD.org• FE/PE Exam Practice Exams• FE/PE Exam Reference Handbooks

• FE Reference Guide is available for free via download from NCEES.org, or you can purchase it for a nominal fee. However, you will only have access to a .pdf during the exam, so practice with this tool ahead of time.

• FE/PE Prep • FE/PE Review Courses – Instructor-led live

classes @ ESD• PE Review Sessions – Study Groups,

MSPE, IEEE, ASCE, and others• Online courses via the web

Exam Strategies

- FE

• Prepare, prepare, prepare • Do practice problems and exams• Focus on your strengths first• Take Practice Tests• Watch the time• THINK before you start• Eliminate incorrect choices• Flag a question for review later• Answer all questions

Exam Strategies

- PE

• Prepare for the test• Open Book (if it is not already CBT) tab

your books for easy access• Make formula pages for yourself to

solve general problems • 3-ring binders are allowed as long as

all material is ‘bound’ and not loose.• Watch the time• Eliminate Incorrect choices• Flag questions for Review• Answer all Questions • Bring Back-up Calculator (w/o cover)

When and Where to take the FE Exam?Registration for the computer-based FE, PE-Mechanical CBT, PE-Environmental, and PE-Chemical are open year-round. PE-Civil, and PE-Electrical Power will be paper exams this fall, with Electrical transitioning to CBT by January 2021, and PE-Civil soon to follow.

For the FE Exam, it is most advantageous to take it immediately after graduation, or in between the Junior and Senior years. This is when the material is the most fresh, especially the mathematics. However, you may take the FE Exam at any time, and are allowed up to 10 years to take the PE Exam after the FE Exam..

FE Exams are administered at a Pearson Vue Test Center (see handout). For more locations, visit https://ncees.org/exams/test-center-locations/ or phone Pearson Vue direct at 888-866-8766.

What does it cost again?

• The FE exam is a computer-based exam administered year-round at NCEES-approved Pearson VUE test centers. Learn more at the NCEES YouTube channel. A $175 exam fee is payable directly to NCEES.

• The PE exam fee is $375 and is payable directly to NCEES.• The PE application for ”licensure” with the

State of Michigan is

What does it cost again?

• MICHIGAN PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS LICENSING GUIDE ELIGIBILITY FOR LICENSING

• Possess a bachelor’s or master’s degree from a school and program accredited by the Engineering Accreditation Commission/Accreditation Board of Engineering and Technology (EAC/ABET) or Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board (CEAB). • Possess at least 4 years of acceptable engineering work experience obtained after having received an acceptable bachelor’s degree. • Experience must be verified by at least one individual familiar with the nature of work performed by the applicant. • Pass the Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) examination administered through the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying (NCEES). The cost of the examination is $225. For additional information, please visit www.ncees.org. • Pass the Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE) examination administered through NCEES. The Cost of the examination is $350.• Submit an online application at www.michigan.gov/mylicense.\• Applicants must be of good moral character. The fee due at the time of application is $75.

• https://www.michigan.gov/documents/lara/Engineers_517625_7.pdf

Exam Dates and Locations for PE

Some PE pencil and paper exams are still offered twice a year, in October and April. PE Architectural and PE Industrial and Systems exams are only offered in April. PE Control Systems, PE Fire Protection, and PE Petroleum exams are only offered in October. To double-check the dates of your exam visit: https://ncees.org/engineering/pe/

UPCOMING TESTING DATES FOR PE:PE Exam Friday, October, 23, 2020

REGISTRATION IS OPEN NOWAND DEADLINE IS August 20, 2020.

EXAM LOCATION: The address for your test location will be on your exam authorization that NCEES will send 2-3 weeks before the exam.

The fee due at the time of application is $75.The cost of the examination is $350. Submit an online application at www.michigan.gov/mylicense or submit the Professional Engineer Application found at www.michigan.gov/engineers.

Exam Results & Re-Takes• Exam results are reported pass/fail. If you did not pass the exam, you will

receive a diagnostic report indicating subject areas of relative strength and weakness. The diagnostic report can assist you if you decide to retake the exam.

• The Michigan Board: PE Examinees will be provided one attempt per testing window, and no more than three attempts in a 12-month period.

• FE-Exam Re-take NCEES allows you to take the exam once during any 2-month period, and three times in a 12-month period.

• ESD will allow you to re-take the prep course for a small materials fee.

Miscellaneous

The Michigan Board of Professional Engineers no longer requires PE examinees to submit an application or an additional fee prior to registering with NCEES and scheduling the exam.

Helpful Websites

www.NCEES.org

www.Michigan.gov/engineers

www.NSPE.orgwww.MichiganSPE.org/

www.ESD.org

Who Are We?

The Engineering Society of Detroit represents all disciplines of engineering, construction and design, architecture and IT. We are 125 years old, and have been helping engineers prepare for the professional engineer exams for over 75 years.

We provide live instruction with subject-matter experts in each subject. If you are the type of person who succeeds better with a live, in-class, format, you should consider enrolling in one of our exam preparation courses. We host them in the winter/spring, and the summer/fall. *CURRENTLY: ESD is offering these classes in a livestream VR format.

FE Review Courses

ESD offers FE Exam Prep for Mechanical, Electrical and Civil.

Summer/Fall Session: Tuesdays and ThursdaysJuly 21– Oct 1, 2020 6:00 – 9:00 pm.(Additional classes on Saturdays for Civil and Mechanical, starting February 22)

Register Online at https://www.ESD.org/programs/FE/ or contact Elana Shelef at eshelef@esd.org or 248-353-0735, ext. 119.

FE Course Fees

FE Course Fees and ESD MembershipESD Member – $1000Non-Member – $1200 Or become an ESD member and save!*Non-Members can join ESD at the professional rate of $99 and pay the member price of $1000 for the review course, for a total of $1099.

Books, practice problems and exams are not included, but may be purchased at PPI2PASS.com with promocode ESD15 for a 15% discount.

Professional Engineer Exam Prep

PE Exam Prep is offered by ESD for Mechanical, Electrical-Power, Civil and Environmental.

Summer/Fall Session for October Exam:August 25 – September 26Saturdays 8:30 am – 12:30 pm (Civil & Environmental)Saturdays 1:00 – 5:00 pm (Electrical-Power & Mechanical)

Location: ESD Headquarters, 20700 Civic Center Drive, Suite 450, Southfield*** via Zoom livestream for this Fall.Register Online at: https://www.ESD.org/programs/PE/or contact Elana Shelef at eshelef@esd.org or 248-353-0735, ext. 119.

PE Course Fees

PE Course Fees and ESD MembershipESD Member – $900Non-Member – $1100

Or become an ESD member and save!*Non-Members can join ESD at the professional rate of $99 and pay the member price of $900 for the review course for a total of $999.

Books, practice problems and exams are not included, but may be purchased at PPI2PASS.com with promocode ESD15 for a 15% discount.

Q&A

Conclusion• Thank you for coming today.

• Become a PE!

• ESD Online Registration for Exam Preparation Classeshttps://www.esd.org/programs/fe/https://www.esd.org/programs/pe/

• Contact Info: Elana Shelef eshelef@esd.orgFran Mahoney 248-353-0735 x 116