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Epistemic-ontic interpretation of quantum mechanics: quantum information theory and Husserl’s phenomenology Tina Bilban, IQOQI Vienna, Austria Time and Matter 2010, Budva, Montenegro

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Page 1: Epistemic-ontic interpretation of quantum mechanics: quantum …tam.ung.si/2010/talks/TAM2010_Bilban_OntEpi.pdf · 2010-10-19 · interpretation, quantum information theories, etc

Epistemic-ontic interpretation ofquantum mechanics:

quantum information theory andHusserl’s phenomenology

Tina Bilban, IQOQI Vienna, Austria

Time and Matter 2010, Budva, Montenegro

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Ontic and Epistemic approaches

• Epistemic• relating to knowledge• Bohr; Copenhagen

interpretation, quantuminformation theories, etc.

• Experiments and their mostdirect interpretation

• Ontic• relating to (real) existance• Einstein; hidden variables

theories, many worldsinterpretation, etc.

• Common sense in classicalworld

• But: the complete interpretation should unite both of them

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Quantum Information theory

• Epistemic: Quantum physics is science of knowledge.

• Information equals reality.

• Information cannot be endlessly divisible; N systems → Nbits of information.

• Objectivity of outer world: on the basis of invariants andthe inter-subjective agreement.

• But: no direct connection between the information and“that something this information is about.”

Quantum information theory

Brukner Č., Zeilinger A.: Information and fundamental elements of the structure ofquantum theory, 2003, quant-ph/0212084v1; Operationally invariant information inquantum measurements, 2000, quant-ph/0005084v1

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Kant’s epistemic system: :

→ no direct causal connection

Quantum Information theory Connections with philosophy

Phenomena“Things-in-itself”

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Physics and Kant’s system:

Quantum Information theory Connections with philosophy

Phenomena“Things-in-itself”

The place of physical objects issolely on the side of phenomena

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The transmission of Kant’s method to QM:

Quantum Information theory Connections with philosophy

Phenomena“Things-in-itself”

:

Observed Information:

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Connections with philosophy

• Kant → the problem of the lack of permeability betweenthe “thing-in-itself” and the phenomenon.

• Husserl→ mainly epistemic but maintains the permeability

• Husserl’s phenomenon: the object as has been given tome by itself, in the way to have a meaning (exactly) to me.

Phenomenon

The observerThe observed

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Husserl’s phenomenology + Quantum information theory

• The information as the direct answer to the questionabout observed. The basis for the information is theobserved itself.

The observedInformation

The observer

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The connection: information–observed → observer

• The information and the observed are in two waysconnected to the observer:

1. To the observer as observer per se, as to the one forwhom they have a meaning (the answer to “Whyinformation?”/ “Why quantum?”)

2. To the observer as to the part of an environment, as tothe one, who, by trying to get any information, already(necessarily) has an influence on the observed and onthe information about it.

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The transition: quantum to classical

• Decoherence (entanglement of a coherent quantumsystem with the environment)

• Two logical postulates:

1. Our every day concepts are classical concepts(rely on complex systems) – there is no basis forthe transmission to coherent quantum systems.

2. To describe something it is necessary to be outside thedescribed set. (Heisenberg cut)

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Delayed choice for entanglementswapping

Ma, X., Nonlocal Delayed-Choice Experiments with Entangled Photons,PhD thesis, University of Vienna, 2010.Peres, A. Delayed choice for entanglement swapping, J. Mod.Opt. 47, 2000: 531.

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Delayed choice for entanglement swapping

Ma, X., Nonlocal Delayed-Choice Experiments with Entangled Photons,PhD thesis, University of Vienna, 2010.

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Interpretation on ontic-epistemic basis

• Individual values of measurements → Our information

• Entanglement witness → the relationship between the info.

• Photons 1,2,3,4 → what this information is about

→ On the one hand information has a meaning only as long as it is information about the observed systems. On the other hand investigation of possible entanglement is based on measurement, which gives the information, and afterwards on the interpretation of this information.