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EE380: EC Lab Exp 2: Measurement Of Opamp Exp.2: Measurement Of Opamp Parameters & Design of an Integrator Integrator B. Mazhari Dept. of EE, IIT Kanpur G-Number B. Mazhari, IITK 1

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EE380: EC Lab

Exp 2: Measurement Of OpampExp.2: Measurement Of OpampParameters & Design of an

IntegratorIntegrator

B. MazhariDept. of EE, IIT Kanpur

G-NumberB. Mazhari, IITK1

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Objective

Measure parameters of 741 opamp

Design an opamp Integrator

Specs: %51001 OVSpecs: %5100 1. O

O

VHz100frequencyinput2

V5 ageinput volt 3.

Hz100 frequency input 2.

tageoutput volpeak of%5offset dc 4.

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Design Process

SPECS.

Design ProcessSimplified Device

Model

CircuitSchematic

CircuitSimulation

DeviceModel

PredictedResults

No Specs.Satisfied?

Yes

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SPECSSPECS.

Ideal DeviceModelDesign Process

C

+VCC

V

CircuitSchematic -VCC

VOR

VIN

Circuit Improved DeviceCircuitAnalysis

Improved DeviceModel

Design Refinement

RF

I d Ci it

Design Refinement

VR C

Improved CircuitSchematic

VINVO

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Ideal opamp model

Voltage Gain : ( )VA Voltage Gain : ( )Bandwidth : ( )

V

T

Af

Input resistance : ( )O i ( ) 0

inR Output resistance : ( ) 0OR

Infinite CMRR, no limts on i/p and o/p voltages etc

But no opamp is ideal !G-NumberB. Mazhari, IITK

5

But no opamp is ideal !

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Models range from simple to complex

AccuracyAccuracy

Complexity

We use simple models in the initial stages to aid in

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p gdesign conceptualization

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With negative feedback, ideal opamp exhibits Virtual G d

RF

Ground

F

RR

VIN

Simultaneously short and open circuit !G-NumberB. Mazhari, IITK

7

Simultaneously short and open circuit !

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Many interesting circuits can be designed using thisPrinciple including an integrator

C

Principle including an integrator

+VCC

VIN

CC

VOR

-VCC

VO

-VCC

dtVtVdVCVinO

Oin 1)(

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RCdtR inO )(

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Once a design is conceptualized, it can be refined Using a more accurate device model

Some important opamp non-idealitiesp p p

Input offset Voltage Input offset Voltage Input bias current Bandwidth Bandwidth Slew rate

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Input Offset Voltage

VO = ?VO ?

Ideally VO should be zero but in practice it is ~ ± 11Vy O p

These are due to mismatches between components

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These are due to mismatches between componentswithin Opamp.

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Inside opamp

VCC

RC RC

V

Q1 Q2

Vo

+ -1 2+

RE

VEE

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Input Offset Voltage

No mismatches hereVIO

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Input Bias Current

IB-

IB+

RC RC

VCC

C C

Q1 Q2+ -

Vo

IB IB

R

+

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RE

VEE

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741 opamp

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Should we bother about ~1mV offset voltage and~30nA bias current?

C 12

R 6

8

10

V)

VOR

2

4

6

V O(V

VOS0 10 20 30 40 50

0

Time(s)

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C

R IB-

VO

12

6

8

10

)

2

4

6

V O(V

)

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0 50 100 150 200

0

Time(S)

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Modified Integrator

RC

RF

VOR

VIN

CVOS

VOR

R

C

IB-

VO

Basic idea: provide a path besides capacitor for dc

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current to flow

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But Integrator becomes non-ideal !

RF

R C

RF

VIN

R

VO

C

O

V dV V RIN O O

F

V dV VCR dt R

( ) {1 exp( )}FO IN o

RV t V tR

1

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CRFo

1

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6

2

4

0

tage

(V)

-4

-2

Volt

-6

0 5 10 15 20-8

Tim e (m S)

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Measurement of Opamp Parameters

Why measure when manufacturer has alreadyWhy measure when manufacturer has already given the values?

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741 opamp

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Values vary from opamp to opamp. Manufacturer gives onlytypical and worst case valuestypical and worst case values.

Measurement of these parameters would Measurement of these parameters wouldinculcate greater appreciation for conditionsunder which these parameters becomeunder which these parameters becomeimportant.

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Offset Voltage

R2IR1

V

IB-

VO

VVIO

2 1 2(1 )O IO BV R R V I R

Minimize the contribution of the second term by

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ySuitably selecting R2 and R1 values

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Bias Currents

IB-

R

RIVV VO

V

RIVV BIOO 1

VIO

VOI

RIVV BIOO 2IB2

R

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VIO

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Other Relevant Non-idealities

fFinite Bandwidth: Unity gain frequency Tf

AOL(f)O

100 dB

f101 10610 10

(0)( ) OLOL

AA f f

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( )1 (0)

OL

OLT

A f fj Af

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R2

R

R2

VO

R1

VIN

+-

VO

VS

+Vin

R1

AOL(f)xVININ S -

(0)( ) OLOL

AA f ffRRfAV

)( 12

1 (0)OLT

fj Af

ffj1

2Rff T

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1

21RR

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Estimation of UGF

R2

R1

VOVIN

2 1( ) oV

v R RA f f

( )1

Vin

A f fv jf

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Measure 3dB frequency

40

30

40

B)

20

ain

(dB

ff T10G

a

21RR

f

102 103 104 105 106

0 1R

10 10 10 10 10Frequency (Hz)

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Slew Rate

VO

R

CVIN

1( )H f RC22( )1

H fj RC

RC2.2

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Opamp

VO = ?

10

VIN0

ffj

fH

1

1)(

f35.0

Tf Tf

For fT = 1MHz, rise time is 0.35s

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For fT 1MHz, rise time is 0.35s

However, output may take more than 10 s !

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Slew Rate (measurement)

VO

8

VIN0

Adjust Input frequency such that the requiredoutput is abtained

8

output is abtained

For Measurement of Slew Rate

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Slew rateThere is an upper limit on how fast the outputVoltage can rise or fall

)/(dVO )/(7.0 sVSRdt

dVO

According to small signal opamp model

)2exp(2

tff

Vdt

dVT

OO

)exp()/(63

2tsV

fdt T

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)16.0

exp()/(63s

sV

For fT = 1MHz

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741 opamp

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