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Dr Mark Luscombe Consultant Anaesthetics/Critical Care Doncaster Royal Infirmary

Dr Mark Luscombe Consultant Anaesthetics/Critical Care Doncaster Royal Infirmary

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Dr Mark LuscombeConsultant Anaesthetics/Critical Care Doncaster Royal Infirmary

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Today’s Talk

Aim to look at two questions:Does the current APLS weight estimation formula remain valid?

Is there a better alternative?

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Increasing WeightConcern over

obesity in childrenIs it just extremes

or are children in general heavier?

Is there a real weight change or just a perceived change?

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North & South Magazine

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Medical Literature

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Population Characteristics

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Pilot StudiesFirst Study in Whangarei Hospital NZ

(n=103) Predicted weight is = 2(Age+4)Children aged between 1 and 10 yo Acute or day-case surgery in a 3 month

periodCompared recorded weights with

predicted weight

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Results 90% children greater than estimated

weightsNZ mean weight difference =

24.75% (95% CI = +19.25% to +30.25%)

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Pilot StudiesSecond Study

in Doncaster Royal Infirmary UK (n=134)

Method and Inclusion criteria as previous study

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Results 86%(UK) children greater than estimated

weightsUK mean Weight Difference = +18.46%

95% CI = +14.87% to +22.05%Compared with NZ +24.75%

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Problems & SolutionsCurrent estimation formula significantly

underestimates weightMore accurate formula required

Use Data to derive new formula

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Importance of Weight EstimationOften needed for critically illRelied upon for:

Drug DosagesFluid Bolus (& Maintenance)DC Shock settingsVentilator settingsUrine output

Decision to ventilate based upon fluid given

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New FormulaInclude 2 Standard deviationsDraw straight line of best fitResult is: Weight = 2.37 x Age + 9.63 (NZ)

Weight = 2.52 x Age + 7.56 (UK)

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New Formula - Criteria1) Simple to use

2) More accurate than previous

3) In general should avoid over-estimation of weight

Two Options consideredWeight = 2 x (Age + 5) andWeight = 2.5x (Age + 4)

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Early ConclusionsChildren are heavier than

predicted by current formula

The current formula is a poor estimate of the modern child’s weight.

Both new formulae tried were more accurate

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Pilot studies recommendation - Which New Formula?

Weight = 2x(age+5) Whilst not as accurate on average as

the other formula tried, it is:

1) More accurate than Weight = 2x(age+4)

2) Likely to avoid drug over-dosage3) Simple to calculate

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PublicationLuscombe M D, “Kids aren’t like what they

used to be”: a study of paediatric patient’s weights and their relationship to current weight estimation formulae. British Journal of Anaesthesia 2005; 95(4): 578

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Next StepLarger scale study – need minimum n=400Checklist

ProposalProtocolCo-researchersEthical ApprovalFinance FormResearch and development approval at research

centreCollect data and analyseStatisticianWrite it!Publish

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Next StepLuscombe MD & Owens BDData from Queens Medical centre,

Nottingham UK, ED database6 months data n= 17244 test sets of data.Age/Weight/Ethnicity/A&E Category

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Differences from pilot studiesMany more formulae testedCheck made on weights by

A&E category.Individual ages consideredGraphical representation Ethnicity considered

Formulae tried :Weight =

2age+9 2age+11 2(age+5) 2(age+6) 2.5(age+3) 2.5(age+4) 3(age+2) 3(age+3) 3age+7 3age+8

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Necessary?Weights of Category 1 patients (Acute-Life

Threatening) recorded = 41.5%

Weights of Category 5 patients (Minor injury to Emergency Nurse Practitioner) = 94.1%

Overall weight recording = 81.7%

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Necessary?Weight estimate is still neededPrevious reasons for accurate weight

assessment remain valid i.e.Drug DosagesFluid Bolus (& Maintenance)DC Shock settingsVentilator settingsUrine outputDecision to ventilate based upon fluid givenWeight estimate may persist into ICU stay

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Additional InformationNo evidence base for Weight=2(age+4)

foundFanconi, Wallgren & Collis “Textbook of

Paediatrics” 1952 – Weights listed for age groups

Small “audit” type projects had also found more accurate formulae.

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ResultsAll formulae tried were more accurate overall3 formulae matching criteria

Weight = 3(age)+7 Weight = 2.5(age+3) Weight = 2(age+5)

Weight = 2(age+4) remains poor estimate

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Graphical Representation

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Which Formula?

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DisseminationLuscombe MD & Owens BD. Weight

estimation in resuscitation: is the current formula still valid? Archives of Disease in Childhood 2007;92:412-415

Numerous presentations

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Any problems?Formula is an estimateOverestimate in 4-5-6yrs old groupOnly from 1 – 10yrs oldEthnicity not recordedData from one area and in the UK only

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Further WorkSheffield Children’s Hospital Validation Study

Luscombe MD, Owens BD, Burke D.Ages up to 16yrs

Sheffield n= 41792Interim Results:

FormulaFormula Mean Mean Weight Diff Weight Diff

1-10yrs1-10yrs

Mean Mean Weight Diff Weight Diff

11-16yrs11-16yrs

Mean Mean Weight Diff Weight Diff 11-12yrs11-12yrs

Mean Mean Weight Weight Diff (all)Diff (all)

2(age+4)2(age+4) 22.45%22.45% 59.43%59.43% 51.02%51.02% 34.14%34.14%

3(age) + 73(age) + 7 2.62%2.62% 17.93%17.93% 12.81%12.81% 7.45%7.45%

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Further work

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Interim ConclusionsResults validate previous study in new

populationWeight = 3(age)+7 more accurate 1-10yrsWeight = 3(age)+7 more accurate 1-16yrs“Acceptable” accuracy 1-12yrsPuberty

Males approx 11.5yrsFemales approx 10.5yrs

Formula works from 1 yrs to puberty

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Thank youTo ALSG for inviting me.For your interest. To Ben Owens and the many who have

helped.

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Any Questions? References Fanconi G, Wallgren A, Collis WRF. Textbook of Paediatrics. William Heinemann

Medical Books Ltd, London 1952 Luscombe M D, “Kids aren’t like what they used to be”: a study of paediatric

patient’s weights and their relationship to current weight estimation formulae. British Journal of Anaesthesia 2005; 95(4): 578

Luscombe MD & Owens BD. Weight estimation in resuscitation: is the current formula still valid? Archives of Disease in Childhood 2007;92:412-415

A M Fredriks, S van Buuren, et al, Arch Dis Child 2000;82:107–112 Jain, A Fighting Obesity, BMJ 2004;328;1327-1328 The advanced life support group, Advanced Paediatric Life Support, Fourth

Edition, BMJ Publishing Group 2004 The Dominion Post NZ December 2004 North & South Magazine NZ May 2004

Weight = 3(age) + 7