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Teach the Truth MinistriesTeach the Truth MinistriesSeminar Part 1;

Ronny’s Exposed Lies (From A High school perspective)

A Truth Seminar byRonny Allard

2110 2nd St. S.South St. Paul, MN 55075

[email protected]

Seminar Part 1;

Ronny’s Exposed Lies (From A High school perspective)

A Truth Seminar byRonny Allard

2110 2nd St. S.South St. Paul, MN 55075

[email protected]

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1.Pray2.Hand out seminar outline3.Screen4.Sight in projector5.Water6.Take Ginkgo Biloba and Aloe Vera7.Set up special music8.Thanks to Pastor and Church

Check list:Check list:

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Check list:

8. Set up tables

9. Time line, Longevity chart10. Sales Table: 11. Quitting Time (4:15 pm)

8. Set up tables

9. Time line, Longevity chart10. Sales Table: 11. Quitting Time (4:15 pm)

In the Beginning, Mein Kampf, Catholic Catechism, Fossils, Hydro-sorter, Evolution Cruncher, Are you being Brainwashed, Bibles, Catalogs

In the Beginning, Mein Kampf, Catholic Catechism, Fossils, Hydro-sorter, Evolution Cruncher, Are you being Brainwashed, Bibles, Catalogs

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My FamilyI Believe The Bible2 World ViewsCalf PullerGrand CanyonTextbook LawsBeer mixed w/ sportsJump Frog, Jump6000 years What they believeTime-linePopulationLimiting Factors

Pre Flood Oxygen Hydrologic Sorting Earth’s Spin Sun is BurningKiss a Frog?Brain WashedMoonInvitation

Part 2 - Exposed

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Please turn off your cell phones and

pagers during the seminar.

Thank you!

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TTMTeach the Truth

Ministries

TTMTeach the Truth

Ministries

…teaching the Truth- whatever the cost,…teaching the Truth- whatever the cost,

‘cause it’s all about the lost!‘cause it’s all about the lost!

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…and presenting…and presenting

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Teach the Truth MinistriesTeach the Truth MinistriesSeminar Part 1;

Ronny’s Exposed Lies (From A High school perspective)

A Truth Seminar byRon Allard

2110 2nd St. S.South St. Paul, MN 55075

[email protected]

Seminar Part 1;

Ronny’s Exposed Lies (From A High school perspective)

A Truth Seminar byRon Allard

2110 2nd St. S.South St. Paul, MN 55075

[email protected]

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Teach the Truth MinistriesTeach the Truth Ministries

I’m only a high school graduate. I’m only a high school graduate.

…please pay attention! …please pay attention!

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Son: LoganSon: Logan Wife: BeckyWife: Becky

Daughter: CharityDaughter: Charity

The Allard familyThe Allard family

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““Doc” Ronny’s Doc” Ronny’s beautiful wife, Beckybeautiful wife, Becky

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““Doc” Ronny’s Doc” Ronny’s beautiful wife, Beckybeautiful wife, Becky

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““Doc” Ronny’s Doc” Ronny’s beautiful wife, Beckybeautiful wife, Becky

……and son Logan- and son Logan- ElijahElijah

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Key to a great presentation:Key to a great presentation:

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Key to a great presentation:Key to a great presentation:

-Tell them what you’re going to tell them.

-Tell them what you’re going to tell them.

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Key to a great presentation:Key to a great presentation:

-Tell them what you’re going to tell them.

-Tell them what you’re going to tell them.

-Tell them what you told them you were going to tell them.

-Tell them what you told them you were going to tell them.

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Key to a great presentation:Key to a great presentation:

-Tell them what you’re going to tell them.

-Tell them what you’re going to tell them.

-Tell them what you told them you were going to tell them.

-Tell them what you told them you were going to tell them.

-Tell them what you told them.-Tell them what you told them.

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1.) Where am I coming from:

1.) Where am I coming from:

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1.) Where am I coming from:

1.) Where am I coming from:

Always 2 ways to look at an

observation.

Always 2 ways to look at an

observation.

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1.) Where am I coming from:

1.) Where am I coming from:

Why only 1 way is

presented in public

schools.

Why only 1 way is

presented in public

schools.

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1.) Where am I coming from:

1.) Where am I coming from:

How the 1 way presented is

unreasonable or impossible using common sense.

How the 1 way presented is

unreasonable or impossible using common sense.

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1.) Where am I coming from:

1.) Where am I coming from:

…out of the options left……out of the options left…

Which one’s True

Which one’s True

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I moved 30+ times, attended 7+ public school

districts, and lived in 3

different states since my birth in

1978.

I moved 30+ times, attended 7+ public school

districts, and lived in 3

different states since my birth in

1978.

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Note: that I am speaking from my experience;

what I have learned on my own in public high schools!

Note: that I am speaking from my experience;

what I have learned on my own in public high schools!

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What would happen if what you believed

was “wrong”?

What would happen if what you believed

was “wrong”?

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What would happen if what you believed

was “wrong”?

What would happen if what you believed

was “wrong”?…And that is what we will focus on in this discussion.

…And that is what we will focus on in this discussion.

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…And that is what we will focus on in this discussion.

…And that is what we will focus on in this discussion.

What would happen if what you believed

was “wrong”?

What would happen if what you believed

was “wrong”?

(What do I believe & why?) (What do I believe & why?)

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I’m an “old-fashioned”

Bible believing Christianwho loves

“Science”!

I’m an “old-fashioned”

Bible believing Christianwho loves

“Science”!

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I hold to the creationist world view without

apology.

I hold to the creationist world view without

apology.I believe the Bible is literally

true; cover to cover…I believe the Bible is literally

true; cover to cover…

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I believe the Bible is literally true; cover to cover…

I believe the Bible is literally true; cover to cover…

I hold to the creationist world view without

apology.

I hold to the creationist world view without

apology.You can’t LITERALLY believe the

WHOLE Bible…!

You can’t LITERALLY believe the

WHOLE Bible…!

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I hold to the creationist world view without

apology.

I hold to the creationist world view without

apology.I believe the Bible is literally

true; cover to cover…I believe the Bible is literally

true; cover to cover…

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What I’m going to share with you today is the CREATIONIST WORLD-VIEW. It explains HOW the world got here and WHY we see such things as the rock formations, and other physical anomalies such as oil and petrifaction.

What I’m going to share with you today is the CREATIONIST WORLD-VIEW. It explains HOW the world got here and WHY we see such things as the rock formations, and other physical anomalies such as oil and petrifaction.

Without ingredient of…Without ingredient of…“TIME”“TIME”

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…and that’s why it is good to have scientific

discussions about different views in order to weigh out

the evidence. This is the purpose of an education.

…and that’s why it is good to have scientific

discussions about different views in order to weigh out

the evidence. This is the purpose of an education.

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…and that’s why it is good to have scientific

discussions about different views in order to weigh out

the evidence. This is the purpose of an education.

…and that’s why it is good to have scientific

discussions about different views in order to weigh out

the evidence. This is the purpose of an education.

-Remember to;

“chew the meat and spit out the bones!”

-Remember to;

“chew the meat and spit out the bones!”

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If you’re only shown one side of an issue:

you aren’t being educated, but rather

indoctrinated!

If you’re only shown one side of an issue:

you aren’t being educated, but rather

indoctrinated!

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If you’re only shown one side of an issue:

you aren’t being educated, but rather

indoctrinated!

If you’re only shown one side of an issue:

you aren’t being educated, but rather

indoctrinated!

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If you’re only shown one side of an issue:

you aren’t being educated, but rather

indoctrinated!

If you’re only shown one side of an issue:

you aren’t being educated, but rather

indoctrinated!

Indoctrinate:

“Teach to accept ideas uncritically.”

Oxford American Dictionary

Indoctrinate:

“Teach to accept ideas uncritically.”

Oxford American Dictionary

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An Education shows people all the sides and lets them use their own

intellect to decide which one is the most

reasonable.

An Education shows people all the sides and lets them use their own

intellect to decide which one is the most

reasonable.

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I think students should see all sides to this issue, and

decide which one is the most

logical.

I think students should see all sides to this issue, and

decide which one is the most

logical.

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There are really only 2

opposing world views…

There are really only 2

opposing world views…

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Violates “SCIENCE” definition …but told as FACT in science class. …Is the only side that’s promoted!

Violates “SCIENCE” definition …but told as FACT in science class. …Is the only side that’s promoted!

“Amazing! A ‘Big Bang’ made this world from nothing!”

Man is god and answers to no one.

“Amazing! A ‘Big Bang’ made this world from nothing!”

Man is god and answers to no one.

Humanistic Worldview Evolution…

Humanistic Worldview Evolution…

PROBLEM: We are forced to pay for

textbooks through taxes.

AMERICA:…Land of the fee, home of the slave!

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Creationist’s Worldview…Creationist’s Worldview…

Very seldom ever mentioned in textbooks, besides in

discrediting…

Very seldom ever mentioned in textbooks, besides in

discrediting…

“Incredible design! There must be a smart designer.”

God is God and judges all men.

“Incredible design! There must be a smart designer.”

God is God and judges all men.

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FOR THE RECORD…FOR THE RECORD…

We are not trying to get Creation into public schools.We are not trying to get Creation into public schools.

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FOR THE RECORD…FOR THE RECORD…

We are not trying to get Creation into public schools.We are not trying to get Evolution out of public schools.

We are not trying to get Creation into public schools.We are not trying to get Evolution out of public schools.

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FOR THE RECORD…FOR THE RECORD…

We are not trying to get Creation into public schools. We are not trying to get Evolution out of public schools.

We just want the lies out of the

textbooks!

We are not trying to get Creation into public schools. We are not trying to get Evolution out of public schools.

We just want the lies out of the

textbooks!

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Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

ScientificScientific

Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution.

Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution.

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Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

ScientificScientific

(670pages!)(670pages!)

Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution.

Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution.

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Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

ScientificScientific

(670pages!)(670pages!)

Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution.

Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution.

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Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution.

Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution. Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

ScientificScientific

(670pages!)(670pages!)

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Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

Communistic American, SDR, pg. 365

ScientificScientific

(670pages!)(670pages!)

Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution.

Evolution and Creationism

…religions deny the theory of evolution, …conflicts with their belief that God created all things (creationism). But most scientists accept that there is

overwhelming evidence… fossil record, the

existence of similarities -or homologies-between different groups of organisms,

embryology, and

geographical distribution.

…we use great plainness of speech:

II Corinthians 3:12

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My position:

This world is too complex. It had to be created by an;

My position:

This world is too complex. It had to be created by an;

All Wise- All Powerful

Creator- Outside of-

Above and beyond-

Not affected by…

All Wise- All Powerful

Creator- Outside of-

Above and beyond-

Not affected by…

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FactFact

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FactFactCreationist’s interpretationCreationist’s interpretation

Evolutionist’s interpretationEvolutionist’s

interpretation

2 Different Interpretations2 Different Interpretations

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FactFact

Sometimes 2 people can look at the vary same thing, and come to opposite conclusions of what they’re seeing.

Sometimes 2 people can look at the vary same thing, and come to opposite conclusions of what they’re seeing.

Creationist’s interpretationCreationist’s interpretation

Evolutionist’s interpretationEvolutionist’s

interpretation

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Calf puller (from slide or farm)

Calf puller (from slide or farm)

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Calf puller (from slide or farm)

Calf puller (from slide or farm)

Calf PullerCalf Puller

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Well, do you have any

questions?

Well, do you have any

questions?

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drawing of calf running into cow

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drawing of calf running into cow

How fast was that calf going?

How fast was that calf going?

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I’ll give you another excellent example of this principle in action today…

I’ll give you another excellent example of this principle in action today…

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I’ll give you another excellent example of this principle in action today…

I’ll give you another excellent example of this principle in action today…

Caution:

Caution:

m

ake make

“Doc”

“Doc”

RonnyRonny

really

really

mad! mad!

LIESLIES

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BSCS Biology 1978 p. 320

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Silly LOONS…

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BSCS Biology 1978 p. 320

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Prentice Hall General Science 1992 p.174

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Prentice Hall Biology 1998, p. 279

“The Colorado River…has cut through layer

upon layer of rock over millions of

years…”

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PRINCIPLES OF GEOLOGY

PRINCIPLES OF GEOLOGY 1830

By: Charles Lyell

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Uniformitarianism: The present is

the key to the past.

Uniformitarianism: The present is

the key to the past.

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Uniformitarianism: The present is

the key to the past.

Uniformitarianism: The present is

the key to the past.

No! The Bible is the only

perfect key to the past.

No! The Bible is the only

perfect key to the past.

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“Sedimentary rocks are formed by the

compression of particles deposited by water, wind or

ice.” Communistic American SDR pg. 234Scientific

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“Sedimentary rocks are formed by the

compression of particles deposited by water, wind or

ice.” Communistic American SDR pg. 234Scientific

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“Sedimentary rocks are formed by the

compression of particles deposited by water, wind or

ice.” Communistic American SDR pg. 234Scientific

FACTS are SCIENCE!FACTS are SCIENCE!

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to know; scio Webster/Oxford (1836-2003)

systemized knowledge through experience, …by induction, observation, …showing the operation of

general laws, etc.

to know; scio Webster/Oxford (1836-2003)

systemized knowledge through experience, …by induction, observation, …showing the operation of

general laws, etc.Observable, testable, demonstrable Observable, testable, demonstrable

Science: FactScience: Fact

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FactFactGrand Canyo

n exists

Grand Canyo

n exists

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FactFactGrand Canyo

n exists

Grand Canyo

n exists

Evolutionist’s interpretationEvolutionist’s

interpretationCreationist’s interpretationCreationist’s interpretation

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FactFactGrand Canyo

n exists

Grand Canyo

n exists

Evolutionist’s interpretationEvolutionist’s

interpretation

It formed slowly

by a little water

and lots of time

It formed slowly

by a little water

and lots of time

Creationist’s interpretationCreationist’s interpretation

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Evolutionist’s interpretationEvolutionist’s

interpretationFactFactGrand Canyo

n exists

Grand Canyo

n exists

Creationist’s interpretationCreationist’s interpretation

It formed slowly

by a little water

and lots of time

It formed slowly

by a little water

and lots of time

It formed quickly

by lots of water

and a little time

It formed quickly

by lots of water

and a little time

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Evolutionist’s interpretationEvolutionist’s

interpretationFactFactGrand Canyo

n exists

Grand Canyo

n exists

Creationist’s interpretationCreationist’s interpretation

It formed slowly

by a little water

and lots of time

It formed slowly

by a little water

and lots of time

It formed quickly

by lots of water

and a little time

It formed quickly

by lots of water

and a little time

Evolutionists are always trying to erase the line and make students think their

interpretation is part of the fact.

Evolutionists are always trying to erase the line and make students think their

interpretation is part of the fact.

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There are always

2 ways to look at things, don’t

ya know!

There are always

2 ways to look at things, don’t

ya know!

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about Grand

Canyon

about Grand

Canyon

FACTSFACTS

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The ground slopes up to the

top of Grand Canyon at 6900-

8500 foot elevation.

The ground slopes up to the

top of Grand Canyon at 6900-

8500 foot elevation.

Colorado River

enters the canyon

2800 foot elevation and runs downhill.

Colorado River

enters the canyon

2800 foot elevation and runs downhill.

Colorado RiverColorado River

1800 foot1800 foot

About 270 miles

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River flow

River flow

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon

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River flow

River flow

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon1.The top of the canyon

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River flow

River flow

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon1.The top of the canyon

is higher than the bottom.

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Colorado RiverColorado River

TOPTOP

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BOTTOM

BOTTOM

Colorado RiverColorado River

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River flow

River flow

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon1.The top of the canyon

is higher than the bottom.2. The river only runs through the

bottom.

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Colorado RiverColorado RiverAbout 270 miles

Bott

om

Bott

om

Bott

om

Bott

om

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River flow

River flow

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon1.The top of the canyon

is higher than the bottom.2. The river only runs through the

bottom.3. The top is higher than where the river enters the canyon by over 4000 feet!

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8500 foot8500 foot

2800 foot2800 foot

Colorado RiverColorado River

85008500

57005700

28002800

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River flow

River flow

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

River enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

Canyon rim-elevation over 6900+ feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

River

elev.

1800

feet

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon

Points to consider

about Grand Canyon1.The top of the canyon

is higher than the bottom.2. The river only runs through the

bottom.

4. Rivers don’t flow uphill.

3. The top is higher than where the river enters the canyon by over 4000 feet!

GRAVITY!

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How did that river start

cutting that canyon?

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1800 foot1800 foot

Grand LakeGrand Lake

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1800 foot1800 foot

Grand LakeGrand Lake

About 270 miles Colorado RiverColorado River

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New canyon formed in a few hours by rapid water flow NE of Mt. St. Helens, (May 18, 1980) Wash. USA

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New canyon formed in a few hours by rapid water flow NE of Mt. St. Helens, (May 18, 1980) Wash. USA

1000 feet wide1000 feet wide

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New canyon formed in a few hours by rapid water flow NE of Mt. St. Helens, (May 18, 1980) Wash. USA

140 feet deep

140 feet deep

1000 feet wide1000 feet wide

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New canyon formed in a few hours by rapid water flow NE of Mt. St. Helens, (May 18, 1980) Wash. USA

140 feet deep

140 feet deep

1000 feet wide1000 feet wide

Only 15feet wide!

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Prentice Hall Biology 1998, p. 279

“The Colorado River…has cut through layer

upon layer of rock over millions of

years…”H

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Prentice Hall Biology 1998, p. 279

“The Colorado River…has cut through layer

upon layer of rock over millions of

years…”

LIE

That riv

er did

not

make th

at canyon

LIE

That riv

er did

not

make th

at canyon

H

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Prentice Hall Biology 1998, p. 279

“The Colorado River…has cut through layer

upon layer of rock over millions of

years…”

LIE

That riv

er did

not

make th

at canyon

LIE

That riv

er did

not

make th

at canyon

H

1+1= 2

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27+Lie

s in P

ublic T

extbooks!

27+Lie

s in P

ublic T

extbooks!

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Is there anyone here who thinks

teachers or textbooks should

be allowed to deliberately lie to students for any

reason?

Is there anyone here who thinks

teachers or textbooks should

be allowed to deliberately lie to students for any

reason?

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FLORIDA STATUTE 1006.35 Accuracy of instructional materials.--

(1) In addition to relying on statements of publishers or manufacturers of

instructional materials, the commissioner may conduct or cause to

be conducted an independent investigation to determine the accuracy

of state-adopted instructional materials. (2) When errors in state-adopted

materials are confirmed, the publisher of the materials shall provide to each

district school board that has purchased the materials the corrections in a format

approved by the commissioner.

FLORIDA STATUTE 1006.35 Accuracy of instructional materials.--

(1) In addition to relying on statements of publishers or manufacturers of

instructional materials, the commissioner may conduct or cause to

be conducted an independent investigation to determine the accuracy

of state-adopted instructional materials. (2) When errors in state-adopted

materials are confirmed, the publisher of the materials shall provide to each

district school board that has purchased the materials the corrections in a format

approved by the commissioner.

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FLORIDA STATUTE 1006.35 Accuracy of instructional materials.--

(3) The commissioner may remove materials from the list of state-adopted

materials if he or she finds that the content is in error and the publisher

refuses to correct the error when notified by the department.

(4) The commissioner may remove materials from the list of state-adopted materials at the request of the publisher

if, in his or her opinion, there is no material impact on the state’s education

goals.

FLORIDA STATUTE 1006.35 Accuracy of instructional materials.--

(3) The commissioner may remove materials from the list of state-adopted

materials if he or she finds that the content is in error and the publisher

refuses to correct the error when notified by the department.

(4) The commissioner may remove materials from the list of state-adopted materials at the request of the publisher

if, in his or her opinion, there is no material impact on the state’s education

goals.

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8700.7500 Code of Ethics for MINNESOTA Teachers Subpart 2. Standards of Professional Conduct.

8700.7500 Code of Ethics for MINNESOTA Teachers Subpart 2. Standards of Professional Conduct.

G. A teacher shall not deliberately suppress or distort subject matter.

G. A teacher shall not deliberately suppress or distort subject matter.

Code of Ethics For Minnesota Teachers, Minnesota Board of Teaching, 2000. [email protected]

Code of Ethics For Minnesota Teachers, Minnesota Board of Teaching, 2000. [email protected]

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Wisconsin Administrative Code 361 Rule

The criteria for selection of textbooks…shall be:

3. Factual accuracy

Wisconsin Administrative Code 361 Rule

The criteria for selection of textbooks…shall be:

3. Factual accuracy

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Alabama Code 1975, Section

16-36-70

“Adequate textbooks” - provides: “(b) All

students in the public schools shall be

provided with adequate and current

textbooks...”

Alabama Code 1975, Section

16-36-70

“Adequate textbooks” - provides: “(b) All

students in the public schools shall be

provided with adequate and current

textbooks...”

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California Education Code 60200 (c) 3

California Textbooks shall be “factually

accurate and incorporate principals

of instruction reflective of current

and confirmed research.”

California Education Code 60200 (c) 3

California Textbooks shall be “factually

accurate and incorporate principals

of instruction reflective of current

and confirmed research.”

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Texas Administrative CodeTitle 19-Education; Accuracy of

Instructional Materials

§66.66 (I) “Instructional materials shall present the most factual information accurately

and objectively without editorial opinion or bias by the authors.

Theories shall be clearly distinguished from facts and

presented in an objective manner.”

Texas Administrative CodeTitle 19-Education; Accuracy of

Instructional Materials

§66.66 (I) “Instructional materials shall present the most factual information accurately

and objectively without editorial opinion or bias by the authors.

Theories shall be clearly distinguished from facts and

presented in an objective manner.”

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One might argue that textbooks that contain statements and examples that are proven to be

false and fraudulent are neither

adequate nor current.

One might argue that textbooks that contain statements and examples that are proven to be

false and fraudulent are neither

adequate nor current.

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Texas does not obey their own law. Casper Star Tribune Nov. 9, 2003

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Public School Presentation:Public School Presentation:

What you can do to help fix the

problem in your area…

What you can do to help fix the

problem in your area…

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I tell people that…

I tell people that…

BudumberBudumber

Beer companies try to

associate beer with sports!

Beer companies try to

associate beer with sports!

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They call it Budweiser but it doesn’t make them any

wiser!

They call it Budweiser but it doesn’t make them any

wiser!

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XXXX

Dead DogDead DogBuddumberBuddumber

FOOTBALL?

FOOTBALL?

FOOTBALL?

FOOTBALL?

Beer has nothing to do with football!

Beer has nothing to do with football!

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“Evolution” is not SCIENTIFIC!

“Evolution” is not SCIENTIFIC!

Beer has nothing to do with football!

Beer has nothing to do with football!

XXXX

Dead DogDead DogBuddumberBuddumber

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One day some brilliant scientists did an experiment with a frog to determine how far it could jump.

They measured the distance it jumped and then, one by one, removed its legs to measure the difference it made.

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Distance (in inches) a frog can jump as legs

are removed.

0

10

20

30

40

50

60

70

80

1st Qtr 2nd Qtr 3rd Qtr 4th Qtr

East

West

North

Number of Legs on Frog4 3 2 1 0

inch

es

80 inches

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Distance (in inches) a frog can jump as legs

are removed.

0

10

20

30

40

50

60

70

80

1st Qtr 2nd Qtr 3rd Qtr 4th Qtr

East

West

North

Number of Legs on Frog4 3 2 1 0

inch

es

80 inches70 inches

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Distance (in inches) a frog can jump as legs

are removed.

0

10

20

30

40

50

60

70

80

1st Qtr 2nd Qtr 3rd Qtr 4th Qtr

East

West

North

Number of Legs on Frog4 3 2 1 0

inch

es

80 inches

60 inches70 inches

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Distance (in inches) a frog can jump as legs

are removed.

0

10

20

30

40

50

60

70

80

1st Qtr 2nd Qtr 3rd Qtr 4th Qtr

East

West

North

Number of Legs on Frog4 3 2 1 0

inch

es

Expected

Actual

80 inches

50 inches

70 inches60 inches

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Conclusions from Frog ExperimentConclusions from Frog Experiment

1. Frog jumped less as legs were removed.1. Frog jumped less as legs were removed.

2. A frog with no legs goes deaf!2. A frog with no legs goes deaf!

Good observation!Good observation!

(Can’t hear ‘em yell…)(Can’t hear ‘em yell…)

Bad Conclusion!Bad Conclusion!

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Creationist World ViewI believe the Earth is only between 6 - 10,000 years

old, maximum.

Adding (According to) the dates given in the Bible,

God made the Earth about 6,000 years ago.

Creationist World ViewI believe the Earth is only between 6 - 10,000 years

old, maximum.

Adding (According to) the dates given in the Bible,

God made the Earth about 6,000 years ago.

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Humanistic World-view: Evolution

What do the textbooks say…?

Humanistic World-view: Evolution

What do the textbooks say…?

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HBJ General Science, 1989, p. 362

HBJ General Science, 1989, p. 362

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HBJ General Science, 1989, p. 362

HBJ General Science, 1989, p. 362

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HBJ General Science, 1989, p. 362

HBJ General Science, 1989, p. 362

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Yes, boys and girls…Yes, boys and girls…

Nothing exploded…Nothing exploded…and HERE WE ARE!and HERE WE ARE!

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They call that “SCIENCE” and put it into a science book!

They call that “SCIENCE” and put it into a science book!

Yes, boys and girls…Yes, boys and girls…

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They call that “SCIENCE” and put it into a science book!

I call that a fairytale… and put it in the

garbage!

They call that “SCIENCE” and put it into a science book!

I call that a fairytale… and put it in the

garbage!

Yes, boys and girls…Yes, boys and girls…

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Prentice Hall Earth Science, 1999 p. 63Prentice Hall Earth Science, 1999 p. 63

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They cut down a tree to print that!

They cut down a tree to print that!Where’s Al Gore orWhere’s Al Gore or

Barack Obama

when you need them?

Barack Obama

when you need them?

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Prentice Hall General Science

“The nebula begins to rotate,”

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Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, p. 69

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, p. 69

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Prentice Hall “18 to 20 Prentice Hall “18 to 20 billion…”billion…”Prentice Hall “18 to 20 Prentice Hall “18 to 20 billion…”billion…”

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61

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Uni = singleverse = spoken

sentence

Uni = singleverse = spoken

sentence

Humanist Manifesto 1 (1933) Tenent #1Humanist Manifesto 1 (1933) Tenent #1

“Humanists regard the Universe* as self existing and

not created.”

“Humanists regard the Universe* as self existing and

not created.”

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And God said, “Let

therebe light…”

And God said, “Let

therebe light…”

Genesis 1:3Genesis 1:3

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Prentice Hall “18 to 20 Prentice Hall “18 to 20 billion…”billion…”Prentice Hall “18 to 20 Prentice Hall “18 to 20 billion…”billion…”

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61

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April2002April2002

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“... the observable universe could have evolved from an infinitesimal region*. It’s then tempting to go one step further and speculate that the entire universe evolved from literally nothing.”

“... the observable universe could have evolved from an infinitesimal region*. It’s then tempting to go one step further and speculate that the entire universe evolved from literally nothing.”

—Alan Guth & P. Steinhardt Scientific American, May 1984 p.128See Darling, David, “On Creating Something from Nothing,”

New Scientist, vol. 151 (September 14, 1996).

—Alan Guth & P. Steinhardt Scientific American, May 1984 p.128See Darling, David, “On Creating Something from Nothing,”

New Scientist, vol. 151 (September 14, 1996).

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“... the observable universe could have evolved from an infinitesimal region*. It’s then tempting to go one step further and speculate that the entire universe evolved from literally nothing.”

“... the observable universe could have evolved from an infinitesimal region*. It’s then tempting to go one step further and speculate that the entire universe evolved from literally nothing.” *Dot*Dot

—Alan Guth & P. Steinhardt Scientific American, May 1984 p.128See Darling, David, “On Creating Something from Nothing,”

New Scientist, vol. 151 (September 14, 1996).

—Alan Guth & P. Steinhardt Scientific American, May 1984 p.128See Darling, David, “On Creating Something from Nothing,”

New Scientist, vol. 151 (September 14, 1996).

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* “Doc” Ronny’s Personal Computer Animated Graphical Simulated-Recreation of Big-Bang Produced at home of “Doc” Ronny

(2009):

*Dot

NOTHING… and then…

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CRAKLE…

BANG!SNAP…POP…

* “Doc” Ronny’s Personal Computer Animated Graphical Simulated-Recreation of Big-Bang Produced at home of “Doc” Ronny

(2009):

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Perfect Order…

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So…So…

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and the dot came from nothing.

and the dot came from nothing.

We all came from a dot…

We all came from a dot…

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They call that “SCIENCE” and put it into a science book!

They call that “SCIENCE” and put it into a science book!

We all came from a dot…

and the dot came from nothing.

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I call that STUPID!I call that STUPID!

They call that “SCIENCE” and put it into a science book!

We all came from a dot…

and the dot came from nothing.

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Earth evolving (Atlas)Earth evolving (Atlas)Earth evolving (Atlas)Earth evolving (Atlas)

“4.6 billion years ago earth cooled down and formed a rocky crust.”

“4.6 billion years ago earth cooled down and formed a rocky crust.”

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Holt General Science Teacher’s

Edition, 1988, p. 381

Holt General Science Teacher’s

Edition, 1988, p. 381

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Prentice Hall 1997

…the planet (Earth)

cooled and a rocky surface was created.

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Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 280Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 280

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Life from rocks!Life from rocks!Life from rocks!Life from rocks!

© 2000 p.342

There was no oxygenThere was no oxygenbut the rocks absorbed it!but the rocks absorbed it!but the rocks absorbed it!but the rocks absorbed it!

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Earth evolving (Atlas)Earth evolving (Atlas)Earth evolving (Atlas)Earth evolving (Atlas)

“Oceans formed

as it rained on the rocks

for millions

of years…”

“Oceans formed

as it rained on the rocks

for millions

of years…”

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Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 281Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 281

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Earth evolving (Atlas)Earth evolving (Atlas)Earth evolving (Atlas)Earth evolving (Atlas)

Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 282Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 282

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Biology The Unity and Diversity of Life Wadsworth

1992 p. 301

Biology The Unity and Diversity of Life Wadsworth

1992 p. 301

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Source:  University of Bath Date: 2005-08-16

Scientists Crack 40-year-old DNA Puzzle And Point To 'Hot Soup' At

The Origin Of LifeA new theory that explains why the

language of our genes is more complex than it needs to be also

suggests that the primordial soup where life began on earth was hot and not cold, as many scientists

believe.www.sciencedaily.com/releases/

2005/08/050814170410.htm

Source:  University of Bath Date: 2005-08-16

Scientists Crack 40-year-old DNA Puzzle And Point To 'Hot Soup' At

The Origin Of LifeA new theory that explains why the

language of our genes is more complex than it needs to be also

suggests that the primordial soup where life began on earth was hot and not cold, as many scientists

believe.www.sciencedaily.com/releases/

2005/08/050814170410.htm

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Grandpa?!Grandpa?!

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“in theseoceans…the firstLiving

Organisms

appeared.”

GlencoBiology

1995p. 398

“in theseoceans…the firstLiving

Organisms

appeared.”

GlencoBiology

1995p. 398

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© 2000 Textbook

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© 2000 Textbook

- Capitol…

Evolution is a god!

Evolution is a god!

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Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

0 Jesus’ Birth0 Jesus’ Birth

20002000

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Evolutionist’s Time Line:Evolutionist’s Time Line:

20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

4400 YAFlood4400 YAFlood

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Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

0 Jesus’ Birth0 Jesus’ Birth

20002000

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Evolutionist’s Time Line:Evolutionist’s Time Line:

20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

4400 YAFlood4400 YAFlood

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Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

0 Jesus’ Birth0 Jesus’ Birth

20002000

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Evolutionist’s Time Line:Evolutionist’s Time Line:

20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

4400 YAFlood4400 YAFlood

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Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

0 Jesus’ Birth0 Jesus’ Birth

20002000

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Evolutionist’s Time Line:Evolutionist’s Time Line:

20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

4400 YAFlood4400 YAFlood

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Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

0 Jesus’ Birth0 Jesus’ Birth

20002000

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Evolutionist’s Time Line:Evolutionist’s Time Line:

20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

4400 YAFlood4400 YAFlood

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Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

0 Jesus’ Birth0 Jesus’ Birth

20002000

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Evolutionist’s Time Line:Evolutionist’s Time Line:

20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

4400 YAFlood4400 YAFlood

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Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

0 Jesus’ Birth0 Jesus’ Birth

20002000

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Evolutionist’s Time Line:Evolutionist’s Time Line:

20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

4400 YAFlood4400 YAFlood

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Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

0 Jesus’ Birth0 Jesus’ Birth

20002000

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Evolutionist’s Time Line:Evolutionist’s Time Line:

20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

4400 YAFlood4400 YAFlood

In the beginning Dirt…In the beginning Dirt…

In the beginning God…In the beginning God…

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Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

Eart

h For

ms

4,60

0,00

0,00

0 BC

0 Jesus’ Birth0 Jesus’ Birth

20002000

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Man

Evo

lved

3,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Life

App

ears

3,00

0,00

0,00

0BC

Evolutionist’s Time Line:Evolutionist’s Time Line:

20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang20,000,000,000 years agoBig Bang

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

Creationist’s Time Line: 1”=150

years

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

6000 years ago (4000 BC)

Creation

4400 YAFlood4400 YAFlood

In the beginning Dirt…In the beginning Dirt…

In the beginning God…In the beginning God…

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Minneapolis,Minnesota

Minneapolis,Minnesota

Mexico City,Mexico

…Somewhere down there!

Mexico City,Mexico

…Somewhere down there!

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In the beginning God

created the heaven andthe earth.

In the beginning God

created the heaven andthe earth.

Genesis 1:1Genesis 1:1

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Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men,

for that allhave sinned:

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men,

for that allhave sinned:

Romans 5:12Romans 5:12

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Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men,

for that allhave sinned:

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men,

for that allhave sinned:

Romans 5:12Romans 5:12

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And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living

soul; the last Adam was made a

quickening spirit.

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living

soul; the last Adam was made a

quickening spirit.1 Corinthians 15:451 Corinthians 15:45

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And Adam called his wife’s name

Eve; because she was the mother of

all living.

And Adam called his wife’s name

Eve; because she was the mother of

all living.Genesis 3:20Genesis 3:20

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And Adam called his wife’s name

Eve; because she was the mother of

all living.

And Adam called his wife’s name

Eve; because she was the mother of

all living.Genesis 3:20Genesis 3:20

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And Adam called his wife’s name

Eve; because she was the mother of

all living.

And Adam called his wife’s name

Eve; because she was the mother of

all living.Genesis 3:20Genesis 3:20

If she’s the mother of all living, how can there be aliens?

If she’s the mother of all living, how can there be aliens?

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And Adam lived an hundred and thirty

years, (130) and begat a son in his

own likeness, after his image; and called his name

Seth:

And Adam lived an hundred and thirty

years, (130) and begat a son in his

own likeness, after his image; and called his name

Seth: Genesis 5:3Genesis 5:3

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And Seth lived an hundred and five years, (105) and begat Enos:

And Seth lived an hundred and five years, (105) and begat Enos:

Genesis 5:6Genesis 5:6

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And Enos lived ninety years,

(90) and begat Cainan.

And Enos lived ninety years,

(90) and begat Cainan.

Genesis 5:9Genesis 5:9

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130+105+90+70+65+162+….=4000 B.C.

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I don’t say it was 4004 B.C. Oct. 23, 2 p.m.

I don’t say it was 4004 B.C. Oct. 23, 2 p.m.

Scofield Reference Bible 1909Scofield Reference Bible 1909

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I don’t say it was 4004 B.C. Oct. 23, 2 p.m.

I don’t say it was 4004 B.C. Oct. 23, 2 p.m.

Scofield Reference Bible 1909Scofield Reference Bible 1909

Could this date be correct?Could this date be correct?

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Almost all new textbooks say it is B.C.E.

Before the Common Era.

Almost all new textbooks say it is B.C.E.

Before the Common Era.

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About 1,600 or 4,400 ya

About 1,600 or 4,400 ya

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Genesis 5:32 And Noah was five hundred years

old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and

Japheth.

Genesis 5:32 And Noah was five hundred years

old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and

Japheth.7:7 And Noah went in,

and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark,

because of the waters of the flood.

7:7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his

wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark,

because of the waters of the flood.

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Genesis 5:32 And Noah was five hundred years

old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and

Japheth.

Genesis 5:32 And Noah was five hundred years

old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and

Japheth.7:7 And Noah went in,

and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark,

because of the waters of the flood.

7:7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his

wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark,

because of the waters of the flood.

My wife thinks the boys must have

been Noah’s “triplets”

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These 8 people from Noah’s Ark, began

producing a population.

These 8 people from Noah’s Ark, began

producing a population.

They lived longer, so they had more children (maybe 10 or 15 kids per family). The population began to grow rapidly; around the year 0 there were ¼ billion.

They lived longer, so they had more children (maybe 10 or 15 kids per family). The population began to grow rapidly; around the year 0 there were ¼ billion.

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2012 (?) 7

2000 AD1000 ADBirthOf

Christ

1000 BC2000 BC3000 BC

Human Population Chart

Billion

s o

f sou

lsB

illion

s o

f sou

ls

4000 BC

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How does the Evolutionist explain the population the

last 3 million years…?

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How does the Evolutionist explain the population the

last 3 million years…?

1.) The population has stayed at a steady 50,000 or so for millions of years…

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How does the Evolutionist explain the population the

last 3 million years…?

1.) The population has stayed at a steady 50,000 or so for millions of years… 2) and/or there was a global catastrophe (meteor, asteroid, famine, etc.) killing off a large portion of the population…

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“Doc” Ronny’s Theory

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“Doc” Ronny’s Theory

21,300,000,000,000,000 (21.3 Quadrillion) years ago, we were living on the planet Kolfax (in a distant solar system.) We decided to try-out another planet, so, like the good democrats we are, we voted. We agreed to accept the help from friendly “neighbor” aliens that gave us a lift on their space ship. We arrived at planet earth 10,000 years ago starting an earthly population of 27.358 people.

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“Doc” Ronny’s Theory

21,300,000,000,000,000 (21.3 Quadrillion) years ago, we were living on the planet Kolfax (in a distant solar system.) We decided to try-out another planet, so, like the good democrats we are, we voted. We agreed to accept the help from friendly “neighbor” aliens that gave us a lift on their space ship. We arrived at planet earth 10,000 years ago starting an earthly population of 27.358 people.

Now, prove me wrong…

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Suppose I said, “Watermelons are blue inside until you cut the skin.

Suppose I said, “Watermelons are blue inside until you cut the skin.

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Suppose I said, “Watermelons are blue inside until you cut the skin.

Suppose I said, “Watermelons are blue inside until you cut the skin. Prove I’m wrong!Prove I’m wrong!

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Suppose I said, “Watermelons are blue inside until you cut the skin.

Suppose I said, “Watermelons are blue inside until you cut the skin. Prove I’m wrong!Prove I’m wrong!

This is called shifting the burden of proof.

This is called shifting the burden of proof.

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FactFactCreationist’s

interpretation

Creationist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretationPopulati

on growth of 6+

Billion.

Population

growth of 6+

Billion.

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FactFactCreationist’s

interpretation

Creationist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretationStayed

steady at 50,000 for millions of

years…

Stayed steady at 50,000 for millions of

years…

Population

growth of 6+

Billion.

Population

growth of 6+

Billion.

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FactFactCreationist’s

interpretation

Creationist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretation8 people

stepped off the Ark.

8 people stepped off

the Ark.Stayed

steady at 50,000 for millions of

years…

Stayed steady at 50,000 for millions of

years…

Population

growth of 6+

Billion.

Population

growth of 6+

Billion.

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FactFactCreationist’s

interpretation

Creationist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretation8 people

stepped off the Ark.

8 people stepped off

the Ark.Stayed

steady at 50,000 for millions of

years…

Stayed steady at 50,000 for millions of

years…

Population

growth of 6+

Billion.

Population

growth of 6+

Billion.

Neither hypothesis or view can be

discredited based on the FACT that we have a population…

Neither hypothesis or view can be

discredited based on the FACT that we have a population…

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If you’re willing to admit a world-wide flood in Noah’s day,

then the formation of Grand Canyon, Carle's Bad Caverns, Snake River Valley, etc. Those

canyon formations are really no problem for the creationist.

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Bible vs. Science?

The Bible is

scientific!

The Bible is

scientific!The Bible is not

a science book…

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Carboniferous

Ordovician

Cretaceous

Jurassic

TriassicPermian

DevonianSilurian

Cambrian

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Geologic column from any textbook

In the early 1800’s each

layer of rock was given a

name (like Jurassic),

an age and an index

fossil.

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Geologic column is the bible for

the evolutionist.

Geologic column is the bible for

the evolutionist.

The textbooks! The textbooks!

It can only be found one place

in the world…

It can only be found one place

in the world…

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**** “If there were a column of sediments…”

(HBJES 1989 p.326)

See also: John Woodmorappe, “The

Geologic Column: Does it Exist?” Creation Technical Journal, 13(2): 77-82, 1999

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If the layers are different ages, why are there no erosion marks between the layers?

Merrill Earth Science 1993 p. 149

Why are there no layers of soil between the layers?

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petrified tree running through rock layers (geologic enigmas?)

Bob Jones Earth Science p. 306

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Polystrate fossilsPolystrate fossils

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Polystrate fossilsPolystrate fossils

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Polystrate fossilsPolystrate fossils

Bob Jones Earth Science p. 306Bob Jones Earth Science p. 306

1 Meter!1 Meter!

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Some polystrate trees are

upside down extending

through many layers

including layers of coal.

Picture from Bone of Contention

by Silvia Baker p. 12

Some polystrate trees are

upside down extending

through many layers

including layers of coal.

Picture from Bone of Contention

by Silvia Baker p. 12

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The evolutionist has only two choices to solve this

dilemma:

The evolutionist has only two choices to solve this

dilemma:1.The trees stood upright

for millions or years while the sediment layers formed around them.

1.The trees stood upright for millions or years while the sediment layers formed around them.2. The trees grew through hundreds of feet of solid sedimentary rock looking for sunlight.

2. The trees grew through hundreds of feet of solid sedimentary rock looking for sunlight.

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There is a third way to look at this:

There is a third way to look at this:3. The trees were buried upright in a big flood.

3. The trees were buried upright in a big flood.How fast was that calf going?How fast was that calf going?

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If the geologic column existed in one

location it would be 100 miles thick!

Biology P. 385 A Beka Books

If the geologic column existed in one

location it would be 100 miles thick!

Biology P. 385 A Beka Books

Crust is only 4-Crust is only 4-25 miles thick!25 miles thick!

(Scientific American SDR, pg. (Scientific American SDR, pg. 216)216)

LIE

The geolo

gic co

lum

n does n

ot exis

t!

LIE

The geolo

gic co

lum

n does n

ot exis

t!

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How do you think the layers got

there then?!

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Let’s review some science…

Let’s review some science…

So I can share how I think those layers

got there…

So I can share how I think those layers

got there…

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Namowitz/Spaulding 1989 p. 152

…especially during floods.…especially during floods.

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Hydro-logic Sorting: Logical sorting of dirt particles

LiquefactionLiquefaction

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Dirt from front yard, salt and pepper, etc.Dirt from front yard, salt and pepper, etc.

Hundreds of layers can

form in less than 5 minutes!

Hundreds of layers can

form in less than 5 minutes!

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Thousands of layers formed in a few minutes

as the mud flowed down from Mt. St. Helens.

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Count how many millions of years it took, to form this little rock!

82+ Layers!

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How do they know how old

the layers are?!

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Glenco Earth Science 1999, p. 325

Fossils determine age of layers.

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P. 358

Layers determine age of Fossils.

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Which one is it?Communistic American Science Desk Reference, 1999: p. 240

p. 365: Rocks date The fossil

p. 240: Fossil dates

The rock

or p.365?!Scientifi

c

Scientifi

c

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Which one is it?Communistic American Science Desk Reference, 1999: p. 240

p. 365: Rocks date The fossil

p. 240: Fossil dates

The rock

or p.365?!Scientifi

c

Scientifi

c

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Circular reasoning (art work)

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try to put these two on one slide Glencoe Biology p306 “Layers of rock are

dated by fossils…”

try to put these two on one slide Glencoe Biology p306 “Layers of rock are

dated by fossils…”

Glenco Biology 1994 p. 306-307Glenco Biology 1994 p. 306-307

Date the rock by the fossil!Date the rock by the fossil!

Date the fossil by the rock!Date the fossil by the rock!

LIE

This is

circu

lar r

easonin

g!

LIE

This is

circu

lar r

easonin

g!

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Let’s look at what the

evolutionists themselves say about circular

reasoning.

Let’s look at what the

evolutionists themselves say about circular

reasoning.

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“The intelligent layman has long

suspected circular reasoning in the use of rocks to date fossils and fossils to date

rocks.”

“The intelligent layman has long

suspected circular reasoning in the use of rocks to date fossils and fossils to date

rocks.”[ J.E. O’Rourke, American Journal of Science

1976, 276:51] [ J.E. O’Rourke, American Journal of Science

1976, 276:51]

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“Apart from very ‘modern’ examples,

which are really archaeology, I can

think of no cases of radioactive decay being used to date

fossils.”Ager, Derek V., “Fossil Frustrations,” New

Scientist, vol. 100 (November 10, 1983), p. 425.

“Apart from very ‘modern’ examples,

which are really archaeology, I can

think of no cases of radioactive decay being used to date

fossils.”Ager, Derek V., “Fossil Frustrations,” New

Scientist, vol. 100 (November 10, 1983), p. 425.

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“The rocks do date the fossils, but the

fossils date the rocks more

accurately.”

“The rocks do date the fossils, but the

fossils date the rocks more

accurately.”

O’Rourke, J. E.O’Rourke, J. E.

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O’Rourke, J. E., “Pragmatism versus Materialism in Stratigraphy,” American Journal of Science, vol. 276 (January 1976), p. 54

O’Rourke, J. E., “Pragmatism versus Materialism in Stratigraphy,” American Journal of Science, vol. 276 (January 1976), p. 54

“Radiometric dating would not have been

feasible if the geologic column had

not been erected first.”

“Radiometric dating would not have been

feasible if the geologic column had

not been erected first.”

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“In the years after Darwin, his advocates hoped to find predictable progressions. In general, these have not been found—yet the optimism has died hard, and some pure fantasy has crept into textbooks.”

Raup, David M. (U. of Chicago-Field Museum), “Evolution and the Fossil Record,” Science, vol. 213 (July 17, 1981), p. 289

“In the years after Darwin, his advocates hoped to find predictable progressions. In general, these have not been found—yet the optimism has died hard, and some pure fantasy has crept into textbooks.”

Raup, David M. (U. of Chicago-Field Museum), “Evolution and the Fossil Record,” Science, vol. 213 (July 17, 1981), p. 289

…Really?!…Really?!

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…can be fixed…can be fixed

StupidStupid…is forever!…is forever!

IgnoranceIgnorance

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Scott, Foresman Earth Science 1990

p. 138

Scott, Foresman Earth Science 1990

p. 138

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Scott, Foresman Earth Science 1990

p. 138

Scott, Foresman Earth Science 1990

p. 138

How do you tell the

difference between: 100 million year

old Jurassic limestone

and600 million years old

Cambrian limestone?

How do you tell the

difference between: 100 million year

old Jurassic limestone

and600 million years old

Cambrian limestone?

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Scott, Foresman Earth Science 1990

p. 138

Scott, Foresman Earth Science 1990

p. 138

How do you tell the

difference between: 100 million year

old Jurassic limestone

and600 million years old

Cambrian limestone?

How do you tell the

difference between: 100 million year

old Jurassic limestone

and600 million years old

Cambrian limestone?

By the index fossils

!

By the index fossils

!

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100 million years old?

100 million years old?200 million years old?

200 million years old?

400 million years old?

400 million years old?

300 million years old?

300 million years old?

LIE

The Layers

Are

Not D

iffere

nt

Ages!LIE

The Layers

Are

Not D

iffere

nt

Ages!

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MANY MORE (LIES) IN PUBLIC SCHOOL

TEXTBOOKS

MANY MORE (LIES) IN PUBLIC SCHOOL

TEXTBOOKS

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There is no scientific evidence to support

Long Ages, Old Earth or the evolution theory except known lies.

There is no scientific evidence to support

Long Ages, Old Earth or the evolution theory except known lies.

If real evidence exists please show me but

don’t lie to students to make them believe your

stupid theory!

If real evidence exists please show me but

don’t lie to students to make them believe your

stupid theory!

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“Doc” Ronny’s Prove Evolution is a “*science” for $250

“Doc” Ronny’s Prove Evolution is a “*science” for $250

Science: State of knowing by systemized observation and experimentation.

Science: State of knowing by systemized observation and experimentation.

How do people get away calling it science, in textbooks?Let me show you…

* “Something” from “nothing” is never observed!

* “Something” from “nothing” is never observed!

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Suppose I had a theory that the moon is

made of green cheese.

Suppose I had a theory that the moon is

made of green cheese.

NASA proved it when they went there in 1978 on

a secret mission!

NASA proved it when they went there in 1978 on

a secret mission!

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Obviously I can have any theory

that I want but it is wrong to lie about my evidence just to get people to

believe me.

Obviously I can have any theory

that I want but it is wrong to lie about my evidence just to get people to

believe me.It is worse for me to use tax

dollars to make everyone pay to support me as I

lie!

It is worse for me to use tax

dollars to make everyone pay to support me as I

lie!

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Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61

LIELIE

The Big

Bang is

a B

ig D

ud!

The Big

Bang is

a B

ig D

ud!

LIELIE

The Big

Bang is

a B

ig D

ud!

The Big

Bang is

a B

ig D

ud!

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“4.6 billio

n years ago.”

Glenco Biology

1995 p.398

“4.6 billio

n years ago.”

Glenco Biology

1995 p.398

LIELIE

The Earth

is n

ot Bill

ions

The Earth

is n

ot Bill

ions

of y

ears o

ld!

of years

old

!LIELIE

The Earth

is n

ot Bill

ions

The Earth

is n

ot Bill

ions

of y

ears o

ld!

of years

old

!

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Homo erectusGlencoe Biology, 1994 p. 358

Homo erectusGlencoe Biology, 1994 p. 358

See:omniology.com for lots more on the cave

men.

See:omniology.com for lots more on the cave

men.

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If you find a fossil in the dirt:

If you find a fossil in the dirt:

All you know is… it died.All you know is… it died.

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Femur-bone belonged to

George(45 million B.C.)

Femur-bone belonged to

George(45 million B.C.)

Look, they even found

George’s head!

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Homo erectusGlencoe Biology, 1994 p. 358

Homo erectusGlencoe Biology, 1994 p. 358

See:omniology.com for lots more on the cave

men.

See:omniology.com for lots more on the cave

men.

LIELIE

There h

as never

There h

as never

been a ca

ve man

been a ca

ve man

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“No human being has ever seen a live dinosaur.” National Geographic Jan. 1993 p. 142

“No human being has ever seen a live dinosaur.” National Geographic Jan. 1993 p. 142

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“A medical pathologist examined dinosaur

bone under a

microscope and found dinosaur

blood inside the bone.” Earth June 1997 pp.

55-57

“A medical pathologist examined dinosaur

bone under a

microscope and found dinosaur

blood inside the bone.” Earth June 1997 pp.

55-57

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“No human being has ever seen a live dinosaur.” National Geographic Jan. 1993 p. 142

“No human being has ever seen a live dinosaur.” National Geographic Jan. 1993 p. 142

LIELIE

Dinosa

urs w

ere si

mply

Dinosa

urs w

ere si

mply

big li

zard

s!

big li

zard

s!LIELIE

Dinosa

urs w

ere si

mply

Dinosa

urs w

ere si

mply

big li

zard

s!

big li

zard

s!

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Prentice Hall Focus on Life Science 2001, p. 141

Prentice Hall Focus on Life Science 2001, p. 141

LIELIE

Natura

l sele

ctio

n does

Natura

l sele

ctio

n does

Not cause

evolu

tion-

Not cause

evolu

tion-

Only v

ariatio

n!

Only v

ariatio

n!LIELIE

Natura

l sele

ctio

n does

Natura

l sele

ctio

n does

Not cause

evolu

tion-

Not cause

evolu

tion-

Only v

ariatio

n!

Only v

ariatio

n!

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wrist bones diagram Glenco Biol p 309 and

Holt Biol p.182 in suitcase)

wrist bones diagram Glenco Biol p 309 and

Holt Biol p.182 in suitcase)

Glencoe Biology, 1994 p. 309Glencoe Biology, 1994 p. 309

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Conclusions from Comparative Anatomy

Experiment

Conclusions from Comparative Anatomy

Experiment1. Many animals have a similar structures.1. Many animals have a similar structures.

Good observation!Good observation!2. They MUST have had a common ancestor.2. They MUST have had a common ancestor.

Bad conclusion!Bad conclusion!3. This helps prove we all came from a rock!3. This helps prove we all came from a rock!

Real bad conclusion!Real bad conclusion!

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Pontiac lug nuts will fit on a Chevy.Pontiac lug nuts will fit on a Chevy.

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wrist bones diagram Glenco Biol p 309 and

Holt Biol p.182 in suitcase)

wrist bones diagram Glenco Biol p 309 and

Holt Biol p.182 in suitcase)

Glencoe Biology, 1994 p. 309Glencoe Biology, 1994 p. 309

LIELIE

This pro

ves a co

mm

on desig

ner!

This pro

ves a co

mm

on desig

ner!

LIELIE

This pro

ves a co

mm

on desig

ner!

This pro

ves a co

mm

on desig

ner!

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Millions of years

ago…

Millions of years

ago…

Were you there?Were you there?

Do you KNOW, or do

you BELIEVE?

Do you KNOW, or do

you BELIEVE?

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“But whoso shall offend one of these

little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a

millstone were hanged about his neck,and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

Matthew 18:6

“But whoso shall offend one of these

little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a

millstone were hanged about his neck,and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

Matthew 18:6JesusJesus

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And God saw every thing that he had

made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning

were the sixth day.

And God saw every thing that he had

made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning

were the sixth day.

Genesis 1:31 Also See v. 4, 10, 12, 18, 21, 25, 31 Genesis 1:31 Also See v. 4, 10, 12, 18, 21, 25, 31 45:00

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Symbiosis:

Plants breath IN Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and breath OUT Oxygen (O2). Animals

do the opposite. They breath IN Oxygen and breath OUT Carbon

Dioxide. The plants were made on day three, while the sun was made AFTER the plants on day four. A couple points

to consider:

Symbiosis:

Plants breath IN Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and breath OUT Oxygen (O2). Animals

do the opposite. They breath IN Oxygen and breath OUT Carbon

Dioxide. The plants were made on day three, while the sun was made AFTER the plants on day four. A couple points

to consider:

Plants - day 3Sun - day 4Insects - day 5

Plants - day 3Sun - day 4Insects - day 5

1. How long an the plants (day 3) live without the sun (day 4)?

1. How long an the plants (day 3) live without the sun (day 4)?

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1. How long an the plants (day 3) live without the sun (day 4)?

2. The insects that pollinate the plants were made on day 5!

1. How long an the plants (day 3) live without the sun (day 4)?

2. The insects that pollinate the plants were made on day 5!

Symbiosis:

Plants breath IN Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and breath OUT Oxygen (O2). Animals

do the opposite. They breath IN Oxygen and breath OUT Carbon

Dioxide. The plants were made on day three, while the sun was made AFTER the plants on day four. A couple points

to consider:

Symbiosis:

Plants breath IN Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and breath OUT Oxygen (O2). Animals

do the opposite. They breath IN Oxygen and breath OUT Carbon

Dioxide. The plants were made on day three, while the sun was made AFTER the plants on day four. A couple points

to consider:

Plants - day 3Sun - day 4Insects - day 5

Plants - day 3Sun - day 4Insects - day 5

Plants need the sun and insects, man needs the plants and the sun, and insects

needs the sun and plants…

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1. How long an the plants (day 3) live without the sun (day 4)?

2. The insects that pollinate the plants were made on day 5!

1. How long an the plants (day 3) live without the sun (day 4)?

2. The insects that pollinate the plants were made on day 5!

Symbiosis:

Plants breath IN Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and breath OUT Oxygen (O2). Animals

do the opposite. They breath IN Oxygen and breath OUT Carbon

Dioxide. The plants were made on day three, while the sun was made AFTER the plants on day four. A couple points

to consider:

Symbiosis:

Plants breath IN Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and breath OUT Oxygen (O2). Animals

do the opposite. They breath IN Oxygen and breath OUT Carbon

Dioxide. The plants were made on day three, while the sun was made AFTER the plants on day four. A couple points

to consider:

Plants - day 3Sun - day 4Insects - day 5

Plants - day 3Sun - day 4Insects - day 5

Plants need the sun and insects, man needs the plants and the sun, and insects

needs the sun and plants…

Literally 6 DAYS

of CREATION

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When we come back…When we come back…

Literal meaning

Differences before

Longer longevity

Limiting factors

Importance of Truth

Literal meaning

Differences before

Longer longevity

Limiting factors

Importance of Truth

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Let’s take a…

BreakWhen we come back, we’ll

discuss what caused the Flood, and the consequence.

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Teach the Truth MinistriesTeach the Truth MinistriesSeminar Part 2;

Ronny’s Exposed Lies (From A High school perspective)

A Truth Seminar byRon Allard

2110 2nd St. S.South St. Paul, MN 55075

[email protected]

Seminar Part 2;Ronny’s Exposed Lies

(From A High school perspective)

A Truth Seminar byRon Allard

2110 2nd St. S.South St. Paul, MN 55075

[email protected]

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3 things I wish to accomplish by the end of this seminar:

3 things I wish to accomplish by the end of this seminar:

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3 things I wish to accomplish by the end of this seminar:

3 things I wish to accomplish by the end of this seminar:

1. I want to strengthen your faith in the word of God.

1. I want to strengthen your faith in the word of God.

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3 things I wish to accomplish by the end of this seminar:

3 things I wish to accomplish by the end of this seminar:

1. I want to strengthen your faith in the word of God.

2. If you are not saved I want to convert you and win your soul!

1. I want to strengthen your faith in the word of God.

2. If you are not saved I want to convert you and win your soul!

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1. I want to strengthen your faith in the word of God.

2. If you are not saved I want to convert you and win your soul!

3. If you are saved and are not doing much for the Lord I want to make you uncomfortable.

1. I want to strengthen your faith in the word of God.

2. If you are not saved I want to convert you and win your soul!

3. If you are saved and are not doing much for the Lord I want to make you uncomfortable.

3 things I wish to accomplish by the end of this seminar:

3 things I wish to accomplish by the end of this seminar:

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A quick review…A quick review…

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Indoctrination teaches 1 side

Indoctrination teaches 1 side

Education teaches all sides

Education teaches all sides

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Do you see 2 men?

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GODISNOWHEREGODISNOWHERE

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drawing of calf running into cow

How fast was that calf going?

How fast was that calf going?

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Prentice Hall Biology 1998, p. 279

“The Colorado River…has cut through layer

upon layer of rock over millions of

years…”

LIE

That riv

er did

not

make th

at canyon

LIE

That riv

er did

not

make th

at canyon

H

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If the geologic column existed in one

location it would be 100 miles thick!

Biology P. 385 A Beka Books

If the geologic column existed in one

location it would be 100 miles thick!

Biology P. 385 A Beka Books

Crust is only 4-Crust is only 4-25 miles thick!25 miles thick!

(Scientific American SDR, pg. (Scientific American SDR, pg. 216)216)

LIE

The geolo

gic co

lum

n does n

ot exis

t!

LIE

The geolo

gic co

lum

n does n

ot exis

t!

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try to put these two on one slide Glencoe Biology p306 “Layers of rock are

dated by fossils…”

try to put these two on one slide Glencoe Biology p306 “Layers of rock are

dated by fossils…”

Glenco Biology 1994 p. 306-307Glenco Biology 1994 p. 306-307

Date the rock by the fossil!Date the rock by the fossil!

Date the fossil by the rock!Date the fossil by the rock!

LIE

This is

circu

lar r

easonin

g!

LIE

This is

circu

lar r

easonin

g!

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100 million years old?

100 million years old?200 million years old?

200 million years old?

400 million years old?

400 million years old?

300 million years old?

300 million years old?

LIE

The Layers

Are

Not D

iffere

nt

Ages!LIE

The Layers

Are

Not D

iffere

nt

Ages!

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Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61

LIELIE

The Big

Bang is

a B

ig D

ud!

The Big

Bang is

a B

ig D

ud!

LIELIE

The Big

Bang is

a B

ig D

ud!

The Big

Bang is

a B

ig D

ud!

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“4.6 billio

n years ago.”

Glenco Biology

1995 p.398

“4.6 billio

n years ago.”

Glenco Biology

1995 p.398

LIELIE

The Earth

is n

ot Bill

ions

The Earth

is n

ot Bill

ions

of y

ears o

ld!

of years

old

!LIELIE

The Earth

is n

ot Bill

ions

The Earth

is n

ot Bill

ions

of y

ears o

ld!

of years

old

!

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Homo erectusGlencoe Biology, 1994 p. 358

Homo erectusGlencoe Biology, 1994 p. 358

See:omniology.com for lots more on the cave

men.

See:omniology.com for lots more on the cave

men.

LIELIE

There h

as never

There h

as never

been a ca

ve man

been a ca

ve man

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“No human being has ever seen a live dinosaur.” National Geographic Jan. 1993 p. 142

“No human being has ever seen a live dinosaur.” National Geographic Jan. 1993 p. 142

LIELIE

Dinosa

urs w

ere si

mply

Dinosa

urs w

ere si

mply

big li

zard

s!

big li

zard

s!LIELIE

Dinosa

urs w

ere si

mply

Dinosa

urs w

ere si

mply

big li

zard

s!

big li

zard

s!

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Prentice Hall Focus on Life Science 2001, p. 141

Prentice Hall Focus on Life Science 2001, p. 141

LIELIE

Natura

l sele

ctio

n does

Natura

l sele

ctio

n does

Not cause

evolu

tion-

Not cause

evolu

tion-

Only v

ariatio

n!

Only v

ariatio

n!LIELIE

Natura

l sele

ctio

n does

Natura

l sele

ctio

n does

Not cause

evolu

tion-

Not cause

evolu

tion-

Only v

ariatio

n!

Only v

ariatio

n!

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wrist bones diagram Glenco Biol p 309 and

Holt Biol p.182 in suitcase)

wrist bones diagram Glenco Biol p 309 and

Holt Biol p.182 in suitcase)

Glencoe Biology, 1994 p. 309Glencoe Biology, 1994 p. 309

LIELIE

This pro

ves a co

mm

on desig

ner!

This pro

ves a co

mm

on desig

ner!

LIELIE

This pro

ves a co

mm

on desig

ner!

This pro

ves a co

mm

on desig

ner!

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I have a question to ask

you…

I have a question to ask

you…

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Why do they LIE about this

beautiful Earth?

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If I could please have you

open your Bible to:

2 Peter chapter 3

If I could please have you

open your Bible to:

2 Peter chapter 3

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Knowing this first, that there

shall come in the last days scoffers,

Knowing this first, that there

shall come in the last days scoffers,

II Peter 3:3II Peter 3:3

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Knowing this first, that there

shall come in the last days

scoffers, walking after

their own lusts,

Knowing this first, that there

shall come in the last days

scoffers, walking after

their own lusts,II Peter 3:3II Peter 3:3

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Knowing this first, that there

shall come in the last days

scoffers, walking after

their own lusts,

Knowing this first, that there

shall come in the last days

scoffers, walking after

their own lusts,II Peter 3:3II Peter 3:3

Scoff not because of science, but because of

sin

Scoff not because of science, but because of

sin

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Knowing this first, that there

shall come in the last days

scoffers, walking after

their own lusts,

Knowing this first, that there

shall come in the last days

scoffers, walking after

their own lusts,II Peter 3:3II Peter 3:3

There’s NO SCIENTIFIC reason to reject GOD’s

Word!

There’s NO SCIENTIFIC reason to reject GOD’s

Word!

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II Peter 3:4II Peter 3:4

And saying, Where is the promise of his

coming?

And saying, Where is the promise of his

coming?

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II Peter 3:4II Peter 3:4

And saying, Where is the promise of his

coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things

continue as they were from the beginning

of the creation.

And saying, Where is the promise of his

coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things

continue as they were from the beginning

of the creation.

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For this they *willingly are ignorant of,

For this they *willingly are ignorant of,

II Peter 3:5 See also Gen. 1:6-7, Psalm 148:4,

Isaiah 40:22

II Peter 3:5 See also Gen. 1:6-7, Psalm 148:4,

Isaiah 40:22

*Dumb on purpose*Dumb on purpose

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For this they *willingly are ignorant of,

that by the word of God the heavens

were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in

the water:

For this they *willingly are ignorant of,

that by the word of God the heavens

were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in

the water:II Peter 3:5 See also Gen. 1:6-7, Psalm 148:4,

Isaiah 40:22

II Peter 3:5 See also Gen. 1:6-7, Psalm 148:4,

Isaiah 40:22

*Dumb on purpose*Dumb on purpose

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II Peter 3:6II Peter 3:6

Whereby the world that then

was, being overflowed with water, perished:

Whereby the world that then

was, being overflowed with water, perished:

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II Peter 3:7II Peter 3:7

But the heavens and the earth, which are

now, by the same word

But the heavens and the earth, which are

now, by the same word

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II Peter 3:7II Peter 3:7

But the heavens and the earth, which are

now, by the same word

are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of

judgment and perdition

of ungodly men.

But the heavens and the earth, which are

now, by the same word

are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of

judgment and perdition

of ungodly men.

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The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:

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The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:

1. The creation1. The creation

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The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:

1. The creation1. The creation2. The flood2. The flood

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The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:

1. The creation1. The creation2. The flood2. The flood3. The coming judgment

Every knee shall bow…

3. The coming judgment Every knee shall bow…

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Theory of what happened,

because of God's previous

judgment…

Theory of what happened,

because of God's previous

judgment…

Canopy theoryCanopy theory

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The earth’s atmosphere has 6 layers

today.

The earth’s atmosphere has 6 layers

today.•Troposphere•Mesosphere•Thermosphere•Stratosphere•Exosphere•Ionosphere

•Troposphere•Mesosphere•Thermosphere•Stratosphere•Exosphere•Ionosphere

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According to scripture, there was a 7th layer (of water)

above the atmosphere. See seminar 2 for more!

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This 7th layer, or the “water-cover” around

the Earth’s atmosphere

would do several things…

This 7th layer, or the “water-cover” around

the Earth’s atmosphere

would do several things…

It would Filter out the harmful effects

and increase air pressure!

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But why they think that…?

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Glenco Biol Amber p 333

also SFES 1990 p. 148

Glenco Biol Amber p 333

also SFES 1990 p. 148

Insect trapped in amber; petrified tree sap

(Jurassic Park)

Insect trapped in amber; petrified tree sap

(Jurassic Park)

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Under double atmospheric pressure blood plasma will become oxygen

saturated…

Under double atmospheric pressure blood plasma will become oxygen

saturated…

Leading to increased health, more

intelligence and longevity!

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The Bible indicates that the world had these conditions…The Bible indicates that the world had these conditions…

In pre-flood conditions, people actually lived over 900 years.

In pre-flood conditions, people actually lived over 900 years.

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The Bible indicates that the world had these conditions…The Bible indicates that the world had these conditions…

And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine

years (969): and he died.

Genesis 5:27Genesis 5:27

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The Bible indicates that the world had these conditions…The Bible indicates that the world had these conditions…

In pre-flood conditions, people actually lived over 900 years.

In pre-flood conditions, people actually lived over 900 years.

Many ancient accounts in literaturespeak of a time in history called

the “Golden Age”

Many ancient accounts in literaturespeak of a time in history called

the “Golden Age”

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Antediluvian life span chart

Average age before the

flood was 912 years. Today,

75

Average age before the

flood was 912 years. Today,

75

Adam lived 930 years!

In Pre-Flood conditions man lived over 900 years!

In Pre-Flood conditions man lived over 900 years!

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400 years400 years

200 years200 years

100 years100 years

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400 years400 years

200 years200 years

100 years100 yearsFloodFlood

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Life spans dropped immediately

Life spans dropped immediately

400 years400 years

200 years200 years

100 years100 years

70?

FloodFlood

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Something changed

during this flood. The Creationist worldview would say

that somehow this canopy fell down.

Picture courtesyDr. Carl Baugh

Something changed

during this flood. The Creationist worldview would say

that somehow this canopy fell down.

Picture courtesyDr. Carl Baugh

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But …is it possible to rain enough to cover the

whole world?!

But …is it possible to rain enough to cover the

whole world?!

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Today, absolutel

y not! There is

only enough

moisture in the

atmosphere to rain about 2”.

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And the waters prevailed

exceedingly upon the earth;

And the waters prevailed

exceedingly upon the earth;

Genesis 7:19Genesis 7:19

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And the waters prevailed

exceedingly upon the earth;

and all the high hills, that were under the whole

heaven, were covered.

And the waters prevailed

exceedingly upon the earth;

and all the high hills, that were under the whole

heaven, were covered.Genesis 7:19Genesis 7:19

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But, Today the

oceans average 12,000

feet deep. If the Earth were

smooth, the water would be 8,000 feet

deep (1.5

miles) everywhe

re!

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They go up by the mountains; they go

down by the valleys* unto the place which thou hast founded for

them.

They go up by the mountains; they go

down by the valleys* unto the place which thou hast founded for

them.Psalms 104:8Psalms 104:8

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They go up by the mountains; they go

down by the valleys*

*The mountains arose, the valleys

sank down.

They go up by the mountains; they go

down by the valleys*

*The mountains arose, the valleys

sank down.Psalms 104:8Psalms 104:8

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Technically, it wasn’t there…

Sea shells on top of Mt. Everest?

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Holt Modern Earth

Science, 1983, p. 207

Holt Modern Earth

Science, 1983, p. 207

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Clams

Birds

ClamsClams

1. Habitat2. Intelligence3. Mobility4. Body Density

Birds

Maybe Evolution didn’t sort the fossils…?!

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Namowitz/Spaulding 1989 p. 152Namowitz/Spaulding 1989 p. 152

Any sorting of fossils is best explained by a

flood.

Any sorting of fossils is best explained by a

flood.

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Scuba divers

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Coins and dates

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Coins and datesWhen did the boat sink?When did the boat sink?

17501750

17101710

16951695

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How old is the

earth?

How old is the

earth?

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picture of toe bone next to ruler

Brachiosaurus toe boneBrachiosaurus toe bone

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picture of toe bone next to ruler

Brachiosaurus toe boneBrachiosaurus toe bone

Made by a dinosaur in 70 million B.C.Made by a dinosaur in 70 million B.C.Made by a dinosaur in 70 million B.C.Made by a dinosaur in 70 million B.C.

Made in TaiwanMade in TaiwanMade in TaiwanMade in Taiwan

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Textbooks say the

earth is 4.5 billion

years old.

Textbooks say the

earth is 4.5 billion

years old.

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Only The Bible?

There arenumerous scientific ways to show the

universe is not billions of years old.

There arenumerous scientific ways to show the

universe is not billions of years old.

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I’m going to share some of

those dates with you…

I’m going to share some of

those dates with you…

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Pensacola News Journal,12/6/199

0

Pensacola News Journal,12/6/199

0

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Time to Kill“Earth’s Rotation is slowing

down.To compensate for this lagging

motion, June will be one second longer than normal.

This ‘Leap Second’ announced by the International Earth

Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in

close alignment with international time.”

-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

Time to Kill“Earth’s Rotation is slowing

down.To compensate for this lagging

motion, June will be one second longer than normal.

This ‘Leap Second’ announced by the International Earth

Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in

close alignment with international time.”

-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

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Time to Kill“Earth’s Rotation is slowing

down.To compensate for this

lagging motion, June will be one second longer than

normal. This ‘Leap Second’ announced by the

International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep

calendar time in close alignment with international

time.”-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

Time to Kill“Earth’s Rotation is slowing

down.To compensate for this

lagging motion, June will be one second longer than

normal. This ‘Leap Second’ announced by the

International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep

calendar time in close alignment with international

time.”-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

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Time to Kill“Earth’s Rotation is slowing

down.To compensate for this lagging

motion, June will be one second longer than normal.

This ‘Leap Second’ announced by the International Earth

Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in

close alignment with international time.”

-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

Time to Kill“Earth’s Rotation is slowing

down.To compensate for this lagging

motion, June will be one second longer than normal.

This ‘Leap Second’ announced by the International Earth

Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in

close alignment with international time.”

-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

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AstronomyJune, 1994

Past leap seconds:Jan. 1972July 1972Jan. 1973Jan. 1974Jan. 1975Jan. 1976Jan. 1977Jan. 1978Jan. 1979Jan. 1980July 1981July 1982July 1983July 1985Jan. 1988Jan. 1990Jan. 1991July 1992July 1993July 1994Jan. 1996July 1997Jan. 1999Jan. 2006Dec. 2008

International Earth Rotation

Service

Past leap seconds:Jan. 1972July 1972Jan. 1973Jan. 1974Jan. 1975Jan. 1976Jan. 1977Jan. 1978Jan. 1979Jan. 1980July 1981July 1982July 1983July 1985Jan. 1988Jan. 1990Jan. 1991July 1992July 1993July 1994Jan. 1996July 1997Jan. 1999Jan. 2006Dec. 2008

International Earth Rotation

Service

…I know what happened to the

dinosaurs…

www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/leap-seconds.3331497600www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/leap-seconds.3331497600

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FactFactCreationist’s

interpretation

Creationist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretationEarth’s spin

is slowingEarth’s spin

is slowing

6,000 YA 1 day =

6,000 YA 1 day =

??Not much faster

Not much faster

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Receding moon drawing from Impact

Available from ICR (619) 448-0900

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Moon causes tides

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The Inverse Square Law:

The Inverse Square Law:

DD

The force of attraction between two objects is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

The force of attraction between two objects is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

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The Inverse Square Law:

The Inverse Square Law:

DD

If the distance is 1/3, the force of attraction between two objects is 9 times greater.1/3 inverted is 3/1. 32 = 9

If the distance is 1/3, the force of attraction between two objects is 9 times greater.1/3 inverted is 3/1. 32 = 9

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Recession of the Moon

1.0 bya

TimeTime

Distance Distance from from EarthEarth

1.4 bya today

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This fact alone puts the age of the Earth/Moon system at

lessthan 1.2 billion year max.

In the Beginning by Walt Brown, available from TTM

www.creationscience.com

This fact alone puts the age of the Earth/Moon system at

lessthan 1.2 billion year max.

In the Beginning by Walt Brown, available from TTM

www.creationscience.com

*

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This fact alone puts the age of the Earth/Moon system at

lessthan 1.2 billion year max.

In the Beginning by Walt Brown, available from TTM

www.creationscience.com

This fact alone puts the age of the Earth/Moon system at

lessthan 1.2 billion year max.

In the Beginning by Walt Brown, available from TTM

www.creationscience.com

*

…just whizzing above the surface of

the Earth…

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That explains what happened

to thetall dinosaurs.

That explains what happened

to thetall dinosaurs.They got “mooned”

to death!They got “mooned”

to death!

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FactFactCreationist’s

interpretation

Creationist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretation

Evolutionist’s

interpretationLosing

moonLosing moon

Broke off Earth

millions of years ago…

Broke off Earth

millions of years ago…

6000 years of loss

6000 years of loss

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The sun is burning.The sun is burning.

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The great argument: Burning by Fusion

or Gravitational collapse?

The great argument: Burning by Fusion

or Gravitational collapse?

As the sun burns it throws off billions of tons of matter…

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As the sun burns it throws off billions of tons of matter…

Royal Observatory in Greenwich has observed for 300+ years, while keeping

“careful” records as the sun is losing diameter (It’s

shrinking as it burns). The sun has oscillated, but had an over-all trend of shrinkage!

Royal Observatory in Greenwich has observed for 300+ years, while keeping

“careful” records as the sun is losing diameter (It’s

shrinking as it burns). The sun has oscillated, but had an over-all trend of shrinkage!

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The sun is burning and losing matter.

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As the sun burns it throws off billions of tons of matter…

As the sun burns it throws off billions of tons of matter…

The 300+ year average indicates the sun is shrinking as much as

5 feet every hour.(Loosing Mass)

No neutrinos lends credence to the fact that the sun is burning by Gravitational

Collapse!

The 300+ year average indicates the sun is shrinking as much as

5 feet every hour.(Loosing Mass)

No neutrinos lends credence to the fact that the sun is burning by Gravitational

Collapse!

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As the sun burns it throws off billions of tons of matter…

As the sun burns it throws off billions of tons of matter…

To the Creationist, this is expected. To the

Evolutionist who calculates this process

Logarithmically or linear, you’re still left with a time

limit!

To the Creationist, this is expected. To the

Evolutionist who calculates this process

Logarithmically or linear, you’re still left with a time

limit!

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Becky and her “Back-seat driver” (the frog)

Becky and her “Back-seat driver” (the frog)

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Let’s add the magic ingredient of “time” [millions

and billions of years…]

Let’s add the magic ingredient of “time” [millions

and billions of years…]

Now, she has what it takes to turn the “frog” into the “Ron”!

Now, she has what it takes to turn the “frog” into the “Ron”!

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If a frog turns into “Ron” Quickly…

If a frog turns into “Ron” Quickly… “A Fairy Tale”“A Fairy Tale” “Modern Science”“Modern Science”

If a frog turns into “Ron” Slowly…

If a frog turns into “Ron” Slowly…

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November, 2004

November, 2004

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Discover, November, 2004 p. 64

Discover, November, 2004 p. 64

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I am going to believe the Bible until it

is proven wrong!

I am going to believe the Bible until it

is proven wrong!

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…Yeah!

…Yeah!

Excuse me! I’m not going to believe the Bible until

it is proven right!

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Preacher and Atheist…

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Get some Vaseline…

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And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read,

that he which made them at the beginning* made them male and

female,

And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read,

that he which made them at the beginning* made them male and

female,

Matthew 19:4Matthew 19:4

* Was Jesus lying?* Was Jesus lying?Did He not understand modern science?Did He not understand modern science?

Or was He right?Or was He right?

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For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them

is…

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them

is…

Exodus 20:11Exodus 20:11

The question is not, “What does it say?” The question is not, “What does it say?”

The question is, “Do you believe what it says?”

The question is, “Do you believe what it says?”

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John 5:46-47John 5:46-47

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have

believed me: for he wrote of me.

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have

believed me: for he wrote of me.

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For had ye believed Moses, ye would have

believed me: for he wrote of me.

But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have

believed me: for he wrote of me.

But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

John 5:46-47John 5:46-47

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Who cares about the age of the earth?Who cares about the age of the earth?

1. The credibility of the book of Genesis is at stake.Can the average person read it and understand or do we need a guru to lead us?

1. The credibility of the book of Genesis is at stake.Can the average person read it and understand or do we need a guru to lead us?

2. The credibility of Jesus is at stake. (Jesus cited Genesis 25 times –see Defender’s Bible pg. 1556)

2. The credibility of Jesus is at stake. (Jesus cited Genesis 25 times –see Defender’s Bible pg. 1556)

3. Nearly every other book in the Bible refers to Genesis. 200x in the New Testament alone –see Defender's Bible pg. 1545-1556

3. Nearly every other book in the Bible refers to Genesis. 200x in the New Testament alone –see Defender's Bible pg. 1545-1556

4. The Evolutionists care. Their entire theory looks silly without “Billions of years” to hide it in.

4. The Evolutionists care. Their entire theory looks silly without “Billions of years” to hide it in.

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In 1770 George Buffon said the

earth was 70,000 years old.

Integrated Principles of Zoology 1996 P. 151

In 1770 George Buffon said the

earth was 70,000 years old.

Integrated Principles of Zoology 1996 P. 151In 1905 the age of

the earth was officially 2 billion

years old.Newsweek July 20, 1998 pg. 59

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The MinneapolisTribune Monday,August 25, 1969

The MinneapolisTribune Monday,August 25, 1969

In 1969 the

official age of

the earth and

moon was 3.5 billion.

In 1969 the

official age of

the earth and

moon was 3.5 billion.

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Today students are taught it is 4.6 billion

years old.

Today students are taught it is 4.6 billion

years old.That means the earth has been getting older

at the rate of 21 million years per year for the last 220 years!

That means the earth has been getting older

at the rate of 21 million years per year for the last 220 years!40 years / minute!

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The Third Reich at War p. 38also his propaganda minister Goebles.

See Lie #20 in Dictionary of Quotations by Bergen Evans, Bonanza Book, New York

The Third Reich at War p. 38also his propaganda minister Goebles.

See Lie #20 in Dictionary of Quotations by Bergen Evans, Bonanza Book, New York

“If you tell a lie long enough,loud enough and often enough, the people will believe

it.”—Adolph Hitler

“If you tell a lie long enough,loud enough and often enough, the people will believe

it.”—Adolph Hitler

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“People aremore likely to

believe a big liethan a small

one.”—Adolph Hitler

“People aremore likely to

believe a big liethan a small

one.”—Adolph Hitler

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Let me show you how this

works…

Let me show you how this

works…

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Bananas are actually moldy spider legs…

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Black spots were spider legs.

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First Grade Merrill Science, page 46, 1989.

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Second Grade Merrill Science, page 26, 1989

Second Grade Merrill Science, page 26, 1989

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“Let me control the textbooks and I will control the state.” —Adolf Hitler

“Let me control the textbooks and I will control the state.” —Adolf Hitler

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Why aren’t students shown the evidence for

the universe being young?

Why aren’t students shown the evidence for

the universe being young?

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A man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways, turned left and jogged back home.

A man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways, turned left and jogged back home.

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As he was jogging home, he noticed two masked men waiting for him at home.

As he was jogging home, he noticed two masked men waiting for him at home.

1.Who were the masked men?

1.Who were the masked men?

2. Why did he leave home jogging?

2. Why did he leave home jogging?

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A man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways, turned left and jogged back home.

A man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways, turned left and jogged back home.

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As he was jogging home, he noticed two masked men waiting for him at home.

As he was jogging home, he noticed two masked men waiting for him at home.

1.Who were the masked men?

1.Who were the masked men?

2. Why did he leave home jogging?

2. Why did he leave home jogging?

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A man left home jogging…

A man left home jogging…

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Two masked men:

Two masked men:

The catcher and the umpire

The catcher and the umpire

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Why aren’t students shown the evidence for

the universe being young?

Why aren’t students shown the evidence for

the universe being young?

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1.) Where am I coming from:

1.) Where am I coming from:

- How the 1 way presented is unreasonable or impossible using

common sense.

- How the 1 way presented is unreasonable or impossible using

common sense.

- Always 2 ways to look at an observation.

- Always 2 ways to look at an observation.- Why only 1 way is presented in public

schools.- Why only 1 way is presented in public

schools.

So, what is True?

So, what is True? -Absolutes

-Know everything-Absolutes

-Know everything

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Thus saiththe Lord...Thus saiththe Lord...

413 times in Bible

413 times in Bible

That is absolute!That is absolute!

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How will he view the

world after 12 or

16 years

in your school system

?

How will he view the

world after 12 or

16 years

in your school system

?

Created?Evolved?Created?Evolved?

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They’re being totally brainwashed and deceived!

They’re being totally brainwashed and deceived!

Created?Evolved?Created?Evolved?

But then again,

…so is the public!

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Minneapolis, Star Tribune, 10/09/06

Minneapolis, Star Tribune, 10/09/06

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Minneapolis, Star Tribune, 10/09/06

Minneapolis, Star Tribune, 10/09/06

10 states fail to address evolution in a scientifically sound way.

…evolution- the cornerstone principle of

biology, one on which there is

no serious scientific debate.

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Some ill informed scoffers teach that all scientists believe in evolution. This is simply not true.

There are many thousands of scientists today that believe in creation.

Some ill informed scoffers teach that all scientists believe in evolution. This is simply not true.

There are many thousands of scientists today that believe in creation.

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Francis Bacon (1561–1626) Scientific methodJohann Kepler (1571–1630) Scientific astronomyAthanasius Kircher (1601–1680) InventorJohn Wilkins (1614–1672)Walter Charleton (1619–1707) President of the Royal College of PhysiciansBlaise Pascal (1623–1662) Hydrostatics; BarometerSir William Petty (1623 –1687) Statistics; Scientific economicsRobert Boyle (1627–1691) Chemistry; Gas dynamicsJohn Ray (1627–1705) Natural historyIsaac Barrow (1630–1677) Professor of MathematicsNicolas Steno (1631–1686) StratigraphyThomas Burnet (1635–1715) GeologyIncrease Mather (1639–1723) AstronomyNehemiah Grew (1641–1712) Medical Doctor, BotanyIsaac Newton (1642–1727) Dynamics; Calculus; Gravitation law; Reflecting telescope (wrote more about the Bible than science, and emphatically affirmed a Creator, but it’s likely he held heretical anti-Trinitarian views)Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz (1646–1716) MathematicianJohn Flamsteed (1646–1719) Greenwich Observatory Founder; AstronomyWilliam Derham (1657–1735) EcologyCotton Mather (1662–1727) PhysicianJohn Harris (1666–1719) MathematicianJohn Woodward (1665–1728) PaleontologyWilliam Whiston (1667–1752) Physics, GeologyJohn Hutchinson (1674–1737) PaleontologyJohathan Edwards (1703–1758) Physics, MeteorologyCarolus Linneaus (1707–1778) Taxonomy; Biological classification systemJean Deluc (1727–1817) GeologyRichard Kirwan (1733–1812) MineralogyWilliam Herschel (1738–1822) Galactic astronomy; Uranus (probably believed in an old-earth)John Dalton (1766–1844) Atomic theory; Gas law, Father of the Modern Atomic Theory; ChemistryTimothy Dwight (1752–1817) EducatorWilliam Kirby (1759–1850) EntomologistJedidian Horse (1761–1826) GeographerBenjamin Barton (1766–1815) Botanist; ZoologistGeorges Cuvier (1769–1832) Comparative anatomy (old-earth compromiser)Samuel Miller (1770–1840) ClergyCharles Bell (1774–1842) AnatomistJohn Kidd (1775–1851) ChemistryHumphrey Davy (1778–1829) Thermokinetics; Safety lamp Benjamin Silliman (1779–1864) Mineralogist (old-earth compromiser)Peter Mark Roget (1779–1869) Physician; PhysiologistThomas Chalmers (1780–1847) Professor (old-earth compromiser)David Brewster (1781–1868) Optical mineralogy, Kaleidoscope (probably believed in an old-earth)William Buckland (1784–1856) Geologist (old-earth compromiser)William Prout (1785–1850) Food chemistry (probably believed in an old-earth)Adam Sedgwick (1785–1873) Geology (old-earth compromiser)Michael Faraday (1791–1867) Electro magnetics; Field theory, GeneratorSamuel F. B. Morse (1791–1872) TelegraphCharles Babbage (1792–1871) Operations research; Computer science; Ophthalmoscope (old-earth compromiser)John Herschel (1792–1871) Astronomy (old-earth compromiser)Edward Hitchcock (1793–1864) Geology (old-earth compromiser)William Whewell (1794–1866) Anemometer (old-earth compromiser)Joseph Henry (1797–1878) Electric motor; GalvanometerRichard Owen (1804–1892) Zoology; PaleontologyMatthew Maury (1806–1873) Oceanography, Hydrography (probably believed in an old-earth)Louis Agassiz (1807–1873) Glaciology, IchthyologyHenry Rogers (1808–1866) GeologyJohn Murray (1808–1892) PublisherJames Glaisher (1809–1903) Meteorology

Francis Bacon (1561–1626) Scientific methodJohann Kepler (1571–1630) Scientific astronomyAthanasius Kircher (1601–1680) InventorJohn Wilkins (1614–1672)Walter Charleton (1619–1707) President of the Royal College of PhysiciansBlaise Pascal (1623–1662) Hydrostatics; BarometerSir William Petty (1623 –1687) Statistics; Scientific economicsRobert Boyle (1627–1691) Chemistry; Gas dynamicsJohn Ray (1627–1705) Natural historyIsaac Barrow (1630–1677) Professor of MathematicsNicolas Steno (1631–1686) StratigraphyThomas Burnet (1635–1715) GeologyIncrease Mather (1639–1723) AstronomyNehemiah Grew (1641–1712) Medical Doctor, BotanyIsaac Newton (1642–1727) Dynamics; Calculus; Gravitation law; Reflecting telescope (wrote more about the Bible than science, and emphatically affirmed a Creator, but it’s likely he held heretical anti-Trinitarian views)Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz (1646–1716) MathematicianJohn Flamsteed (1646–1719) Greenwich Observatory Founder; AstronomyWilliam Derham (1657–1735) EcologyCotton Mather (1662–1727) PhysicianJohn Harris (1666–1719) MathematicianJohn Woodward (1665–1728) PaleontologyWilliam Whiston (1667–1752) Physics, GeologyJohn Hutchinson (1674–1737) PaleontologyJohathan Edwards (1703–1758) Physics, MeteorologyCarolus Linneaus (1707–1778) Taxonomy; Biological classification systemJean Deluc (1727–1817) GeologyRichard Kirwan (1733–1812) MineralogyWilliam Herschel (1738–1822) Galactic astronomy; Uranus (probably believed in an old-earth)John Dalton (1766–1844) Atomic theory; Gas law, Father of the Modern Atomic Theory; ChemistryTimothy Dwight (1752–1817) EducatorWilliam Kirby (1759–1850) EntomologistJedidian Horse (1761–1826) GeographerBenjamin Barton (1766–1815) Botanist; ZoologistGeorges Cuvier (1769–1832) Comparative anatomy (old-earth compromiser)Samuel Miller (1770–1840) ClergyCharles Bell (1774–1842) AnatomistJohn Kidd (1775–1851) ChemistryHumphrey Davy (1778–1829) Thermokinetics; Safety lamp Benjamin Silliman (1779–1864) Mineralogist (old-earth compromiser)Peter Mark Roget (1779–1869) Physician; PhysiologistThomas Chalmers (1780–1847) Professor (old-earth compromiser)David Brewster (1781–1868) Optical mineralogy, Kaleidoscope (probably believed in an old-earth)William Buckland (1784–1856) Geologist (old-earth compromiser)William Prout (1785–1850) Food chemistry (probably believed in an old-earth)Adam Sedgwick (1785–1873) Geology (old-earth compromiser)Michael Faraday (1791–1867) Electro magnetics; Field theory, GeneratorSamuel F. B. Morse (1791–1872) TelegraphCharles Babbage (1792–1871) Operations research; Computer science; Ophthalmoscope (old-earth compromiser)John Herschel (1792–1871) Astronomy (old-earth compromiser)Edward Hitchcock (1793–1864) Geology (old-earth compromiser)William Whewell (1794–1866) Anemometer (old-earth compromiser)Joseph Henry (1797–1878) Electric motor; GalvanometerRichard Owen (1804–1892) Zoology; PaleontologyMatthew Maury (1806–1873) Oceanography, Hydrography (probably believed in an old-earth)Louis Agassiz (1807–1873) Glaciology, IchthyologyHenry Rogers (1808–1866) GeologyJohn Murray (1808–1892) PublisherJames Glaisher (1809–1903) Meteorology

These scientists believed in creationThese scientists believed in creationPhilip H. Gosse (1810–1888) Ornithologist; ZoologySir Henry Rawlinson (1810–1895) ArcheologistJames Simpson (1811–1870) Gynecology, AnesthesiologyJames Dana (1813–1895) GeologySir Joseph Henry Gilbert (1817–1901) Agricultural ChemistJames Joule (1818–1889) ThermodynamicsThomas Anderson (1819–1874) ChemistCharles Piazzi Smyth (1819–1900) AstronomyGeorge Stokes (1819–1903) Fluid MechanicsJohn William Dawson (1820–1899) GeologyRudolph Virchow (1821–1902) PathologyGregor Mendel (1822–1884) GeneticsLouis Pasteur (1822–1895) Bacteriology, Biochemistry; Sterilization; ImmunizationHenri Fabre (1823–1915) Entomology of living insectsWilliam Thompson-Lord Kelvin (1824–1907) Energetics; Absolute temperatures; Trans-Atlantic cableWilliam Huggins (1824–1910) Astral spectrometryBernhard Riemann (1826–1866) Non-Euclidean geometriesJoseph Lister (1827–1912) Antiseptic surgeryBalfour Stewart (1828–1887) Ionospheric electricityJames Clerk Maxwell (1831–1879) Electrodynamics; Statistical thermodynamicsP. G. Tait (1831–1901) Vector analysisJohn Bell Pettigrew (1834–1908) Anatomist; Physiologist John Strutt, Lord Rayleigh (1842–1919) Similitude; Model Analysis; Inert GasesSir William Abney (1843–1920) AstronomyAlexander MacAlister (1844–1919) AnatomyA. H. Sayce (1845–1933) ArcheologistGeorge Romanes (1848–1894) Biology; PhysiologyJohn Ambrose Fleming (1849–1945) Electronics; Electron tube; Thermionic valveDr Clifford Burdick, GeologistGeorge Washington Carver (1864–1943) InventorL. Merson Davies (1890–1960) Geology; PaleontologyDouglas Dewar (1875–1957) OrnithologistHoward A. Kelly (1858–1943) GynecologyPaul Lemoine (1878–1940) GeologyDr Frank Marsh, BiologyEdward H. Maunder (1851–1928) AstronomyWilliam Mitchell Ramsay (1851–1939) ArcheologistWilliam Ramsay (1852–1916) Isotopic chemistry, Element transmutationCharles Stine (1882–1954) Organic ChemistA. Rendle-Short (1885–1955) SurgeonWernher von Braun (1912–1977) Space ScientistSir Cecil P. G. Wakeley (1892–1979) SurgeonArthur E. Wilder-Smith (1915–1995) Three science doctorates; a creation science pioneerProf. Verna Wright Rheumatologist (deceased 1997)Paul Lemoine (1878–1940) GeologyDr Frank Marsh, BiologyEdward H. Maunder (1851–1928) AstronomyWilliam Mitchell Ramsay (1851–1939) ArcheologistWilliam Ramsay (1852–1916) Isotopic chemistry, Element transmutationCharles Stine (1882–1954) Organic ChemistA. Rendle-Short (1885–1955) SurgeonWernher von Braun (1912–1977) Space ScientistSir Cecil P. G. Wakeley (1892–1979) SurgeonArthur E. Wilder-Smith (1915–1995) Three science doctorates; a creation science pioneerProf. Verna Wright Rheumatologist (deceased 1997)

The Wright brothers were creationists. They studied God’s design of birds to develop the airplane.

Dr. Raymond Damadian is a creation scientist with scores of patented ideas including the MRI.

Philip H. Gosse (1810–1888) Ornithologist; ZoologySir Henry Rawlinson (1810–1895) ArcheologistJames Simpson (1811–1870) Gynecology, AnesthesiologyJames Dana (1813–1895) GeologySir Joseph Henry Gilbert (1817–1901) Agricultural ChemistJames Joule (1818–1889) ThermodynamicsThomas Anderson (1819–1874) ChemistCharles Piazzi Smyth (1819–1900) AstronomyGeorge Stokes (1819–1903) Fluid MechanicsJohn William Dawson (1820–1899) GeologyRudolph Virchow (1821–1902) PathologyGregor Mendel (1822–1884) GeneticsLouis Pasteur (1822–1895) Bacteriology, Biochemistry; Sterilization; ImmunizationHenri Fabre (1823–1915) Entomology of living insectsWilliam Thompson-Lord Kelvin (1824–1907) Energetics; Absolute temperatures; Trans-Atlantic cableWilliam Huggins (1824–1910) Astral spectrometryBernhard Riemann (1826–1866) Non-Euclidean geometriesJoseph Lister (1827–1912) Antiseptic surgeryBalfour Stewart (1828–1887) Ionospheric electricityJames Clerk Maxwell (1831–1879) Electrodynamics; Statistical thermodynamicsP. G. Tait (1831–1901) Vector analysisJohn Bell Pettigrew (1834–1908) Anatomist; Physiologist John Strutt, Lord Rayleigh (1842–1919) Similitude; Model Analysis; Inert GasesSir William Abney (1843–1920) AstronomyAlexander MacAlister (1844–1919) AnatomyA. H. Sayce (1845–1933) ArcheologistGeorge Romanes (1848–1894) Biology; PhysiologyJohn Ambrose Fleming (1849–1945) Electronics; Electron tube; Thermionic valveDr Clifford Burdick, GeologistGeorge Washington Carver (1864–1943) InventorL. Merson Davies (1890–1960) Geology; PaleontologyDouglas Dewar (1875–1957) OrnithologistHoward A. Kelly (1858–1943) GynecologyPaul Lemoine (1878–1940) GeologyDr Frank Marsh, BiologyEdward H. Maunder (1851–1928) AstronomyWilliam Mitchell Ramsay (1851–1939) ArcheologistWilliam Ramsay (1852–1916) Isotopic chemistry, Element transmutationCharles Stine (1882–1954) Organic ChemistA. Rendle-Short (1885–1955) SurgeonWernher von Braun (1912–1977) Space ScientistSir Cecil P. G. Wakeley (1892–1979) SurgeonArthur E. Wilder-Smith (1915–1995) Three science doctorates; a creation science pioneerProf. Verna Wright Rheumatologist (deceased 1997)Paul Lemoine (1878–1940) GeologyDr Frank Marsh, BiologyEdward H. Maunder (1851–1928) AstronomyWilliam Mitchell Ramsay (1851–1939) ArcheologistWilliam Ramsay (1852–1916) Isotopic chemistry, Element transmutationCharles Stine (1882–1954) Organic ChemistA. Rendle-Short (1885–1955) SurgeonWernher von Braun (1912–1977) Space ScientistSir Cecil P. G. Wakeley (1892–1979) SurgeonArthur E. Wilder-Smith (1915–1995) Three science doctorates; a creation science pioneerProf. Verna Wright Rheumatologist (deceased 1997)

The Wright brothers were creationists. They studied God’s design of birds to develop the airplane.

Dr. Raymond Damadian is a creation scientist with scores of patented ideas including the MRI.

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Minneapolis, Star Tribune, 10/09/06

Minneapolis, Star Tribune, 10/09/06

…evolution- the cornerstone principle of

biology, one on which there is

no serious scientific debate.

The evolution of

a human eye… difficult

to understand; But [religion] distracts us

from what is scientifically testable.

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“…an organ so perfect as the eye could have

formed by natural selection, is more than enough to stagger any

one;”

“…an organ so perfect as the eye could have

formed by natural selection, is more than enough to stagger any

one;”Deceived?Deceived?The Origin Of Species By Means Of Natural Selection Or The Preservation Of Favored

Races In The Struggle For Life; Bantam Classic [reprint] 1999; p. 170,

The Origin Of Species By Means Of Natural Selection Or The Preservation Of Favored

Races In The Struggle For Life; Bantam Classic [reprint] 1999; p. 170,

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Beware lest any man spoil you through

philosophy and vain , after the

tradition of men, after the *rudiments of the world, and not

after Christ.

Beware lest any man spoil you through

philosophy and vain , after the

tradition of men, after the *rudiments of the world, and not

after Christ.Colossians 2:8Colossians 2:8

deceitdeceit

* Fossils are some Rudiments* Fossils are some Rudiments

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Point:Point:

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Point:Point:

…It’s not an intellectual argument (science problem)

…It’s not an intellectual argument (science problem)

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Point:Point:

…It’s not an intellectual argument (science problem)

…It’s not an intellectual argument (science problem)

It’s a moral argument!It’s a moral argument!

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In the beginning God

created the heaven andthe earth.

In the beginning God

created the heaven andthe earth. Genesis 1:1Genesis 1:1

The Bible is right about the beginning.

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In the beginning God

created the heaven andthe earth.

In the beginning God

created the heaven andthe earth. Genesis 1:1Genesis 1:1It is right about the end

also.Are you ready?

The Bible is right about the beginning.

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In the beginning God

created the heaven andthe earth.

In the beginning God

created the heaven andthe earth. Genesis 1:1Genesis 1:1It is right about the end

also.Are you ready?

The Bible is right about the beginning.

Tomorrow’s not promised!

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You’ve got to realize…You’ve got to realize…

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1. God made the world.1. God made the world.

You’ve got to realize…You’ve got to realize…

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2. He owns it.

2. He owns it.

1. God made the world.1. God made the world.

You’ve got to realize…You’ve got to realize…

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2. He owns it.

2. He owns it.

1. God made the world.1. God made the world.

You’ve got to realize…You’ve got to realize…

3. He makes the rules3. He makes the ruleslike thelike the 10 Commandments …suggestions? 10 Commandments …suggestions?

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3. He makes the rules3. He makes the ruleslike thelike the 10 Commandments …suggestions? 10 Commandments …suggestions?

2. He owns it.

2. He owns it.

1. God made the world.1. God made the world.

4. We are guilty of breaking His rules.

4. We are guilty of breaking His rules.

You’ve got to realize…You’ve got to realize…

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The Big TenThe Big TenThe Big TenThe Big Ten1. No other gods before me.2. No graven images.3. Don’t take God’s name in vain.4. Remember the Sabbath.5. Honour your father and mother.6. Thou shalt not kill.7. Thou shalt not commit

adultery.8. Thou shalt not steal.9. Thou shalt not bear false

witness.10. Thou shalt not covet.

1. No other gods before me.2. No graven images.3. Don’t take God’s name in vain.4. Remember the Sabbath.5. Honour your father and mother.6. Thou shalt not kill.7. Thou shalt not commit

adultery.8. Thou shalt not steal.9. Thou shalt not bear false

witness.10. Thou shalt not covet.

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Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

Matthew 5:27-28Matthew 5:27-28

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Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Matthew 5:27-28Matthew 5:27-28

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The Big TenThe Big TenThe Big TenThe Big Ten1. No other gods before me.2. No graven images.3. Don’t take God’s name in vain.4. Remember the Sabbath.5. Honour your father and mother.6. Thou shalt not kill.7. Thou shalt not commit

adultery.8. Thou shalt not steal.9. Thou shalt not bear false

witness.10. Thou shalt not covet.

1. No other gods before me.2. No graven images.3. Don’t take God’s name in vain.4. Remember the Sabbath.5. Honour your father and mother.6. Thou shalt not kill.7. Thou shalt not commit

adultery.8. Thou shalt not steal.9. Thou shalt not bear false

witness.10. Thou shalt not covet.

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But let your communication

be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of

evil.

But let your communication

be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of

evil. Matthew 5:37Matthew 5:37

Jesus said…Jesus said…

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Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man

truth with his neighbour: for we are

members one of another.

Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man

truth with his neighbour: for we are

members one of another.

Ephesians 4:25 Ephesians 4:25

Paul said…Paul said…

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The Big TenThe Big TenThe Big TenThe Big Ten1. No other gods before me.2. No graven images.3. Don’t take God’s name in vain.4. Remember the Sabbath.5. Honour your father and mother.6. Thou shalt not kill.7. Thou shalt not commit

adultery.8. Thou shalt not steal.9. Thou shalt not bear false

witness.10. Thou shalt not covet.

1. No other gods before me.2. No graven images.3. Don’t take God’s name in vain.4. Remember the Sabbath.5. Honour your father and mother.6. Thou shalt not kill.7. Thou shalt not commit

adultery.8. Thou shalt not steal.9. Thou shalt not bear false

witness.10. Thou shalt not covet.

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If ye love me, keep my

commandments.

If ye love me, keep my

commandments.

John 14:15John 14:15

Jesus said…Jesus said…

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For whosoever shall keep the whole law,

and yet offend in one point, he is

guilty of all.

For whosoever shall keep the whole law,

and yet offend in one point, he is

guilty of all.James 2:10James 2:10

James said…James said…

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None of us have kept

None of us have kept

them all!

them all!

None of us have kept

None of us have kept

them all!

them all!

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As it is written, There is none righteous, no,

not one:

As it is written, There is none righteous, no,

not one:

Romans 3:10Romans 3:10

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There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none

that doeth good, no, not one.

There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none

that doeth good, no, not one.

Romans 3:11, 12Romans 3:11, 12

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It’s too bad that mother Theresa read past that

part…

It’s too bad that mother Theresa read past that

part…

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“I hope I did enough good

to make it into heaven…”

“I hope I did enough good

to make it into heaven…”

Interview with Mother Theresa before her death… Interview with Mother Theresa before her death…

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For by grace are ye saved through faith;

and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of

works, lest any man should boast.

For by grace are ye saved through faith;

and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of

works, lest any man should boast.

Ephesians 2:8-9Ephesians 2:8-9

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MY CONCERN:MY CONCERN:

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•Is not whether you believe in God.

•Is not whether you believe in God.

MY CONCERN:MY CONCERN:

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•Is not whether you believe in God.The devil BELIEVES in God!

•Is not whether you believe in God.The devil BELIEVES in God!

MY CONCERN:MY CONCERN:

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MY CONCERN:MY CONCERN:

•Is not whether you believe in God.

•But rather, ARE YOU SAVED?

•Is not whether you believe in God.

•But rather, ARE YOU SAVED?

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MY CONCERN:MY CONCERN:

•Is not whether you believe in God.

•But rather, ARE YOU SAVED?

DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU’RE GOING TO HEAVEN?

•Is not whether you believe in God.

•But rather, ARE YOU SAVED?

DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU’RE GOING TO HEAVEN?

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If our government began to imprison

Christians,

If our government began to imprison

Christians,

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If our government began to imprison

Christians,

If our government began to imprison

Christians,

…would there be enough evidence to convict you?

…would there be enough evidence to convict you?

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All have sinned…All have sinned…

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 3:23Romans 3:23

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And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are

whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are

whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 5:31, 32Luke 5:31, 32That’s Awesome!

That’s Awesome!

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John 9:31John 9:31

Now we know that God heareth not sinners:

Now we know that God heareth not sinners:

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John 9:31John 9:31

Now we know that God heareth not sinners:

Now we know that God heareth not sinners:

But if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he

heareth,

But if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he

heareth,

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The Lord is not slack concerning his promise,

as some men count slackness;

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise,

as some men count slackness;

II Peter 3:9II Peter 3:9

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The Lord is not slack concerning his promise,

as some men count slackness; but is

longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any

should perish,

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise,

as some men count slackness; but is

longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any

should perish,

II Peter 3:9II Peter 3:9

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The Lord is not slack concerning his promise,

as some men count slackness; but is

longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any

should perish, but that all should come

to repentance.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise,

as some men count slackness; but is

longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any

should perish, but that all should come

to repentance. II Peter 3:9II Peter 3:9

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But God commendeth his love toward us, in

that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for

us.

But God commendeth his love toward us, in

that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for

us.

Romans 5:8Romans 5:8

Christ Jesus died for all…Christ Jesus died for all…

Going to pay for your own sins?!HOW?!

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For the wages of sin is death;

For the wages of sin is death;

Romans 6:23Romans 6:23

God’s plan of salvation…God’s plan of salvation…

Still want to pay for your

own sins???

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For the wages of sin is death;

For the wages of sin is death;

Romans 6:23Romans 6:23

God’s plan of salvation…God’s plan of salvation…

But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus

Christ our Lord.

But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus

Christ our Lord.

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That whosoever believeth in him should

not perish, but have eternal life.

That whosoever believeth in him should

not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:15, 16 John 3:15, 16

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That whosoever believeth in him should

not perish, but have eternal life.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

That whosoever believeth in him should

not perish, but have eternal life.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life. John 3:15, 16John 3:15, 16

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Let’s summarize:Let’s summarize:1. God made the world.2. He owns it.3. He makes the rules (like the 10 commandments.)4. We are guilty of breaking His rules.5. We will be punished or

1. God made the world.2. He owns it.3. He makes the rules (like the 10 commandments.)4. We are guilty of breaking His rules.5. We will be punished orWe must find a substitute to take our place. Jesus

really wants to!

We must find a substitute to take our place. Jesus

really wants to!

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Here’s the plan:Here’s the plan:

1.) Believe that God exists and that He came to earth in the human form of Jesus

1.) Believe that God exists and that He came to earth in the human form of Jesus

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2.) Accept God’s free forgiveness of sins and gift of new life through the death, burial and resurrection (gospel) of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8-10, 1:7-8)

2.) Accept God’s free forgiveness of sins and gift of new life through the death, burial and resurrection (gospel) of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8-10, 1:7-8)

1.) Believe that God exists and that He came to earth in the human form of Jesus

1.) Believe that God exists and that He came to earth in the human form of Jesus

Here’s the plan:Here’s the plan:

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3.) Switch to God’s plan

for your life

(1 Peter 1:21-23, Ephesians 2:1-7, Matthew 7:21-27, 1 John 4:15)

3.) Switch to God’s plan

for your life

(1 Peter 1:21-23, Ephesians 2:1-7, Matthew 7:21-27, 1 John 4:15)

Here’s the plan:Here’s the plan:

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Prayer for eternal life with God:

“Dear God, please forgive me of my sins. I thank you that Jesus died to pay for my sin and came back 3 days later.

I don’t want to sin anymore. I want to live the rest of my life the way you want me to. Please come into my life and fix me. In Jesus name, Amen.”

Here’s the plan:Here’s the plan:

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Trust (in Jesus

Christ), repent and obey!

Trust (in Jesus

Christ), repent and obey!

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Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over

one sinner that repenteth.

Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over

one sinner that repenteth.

Luke 15:10

(See Also: Matthew 9:13, Mark 2:17, Luke 5:32 & 15:7)

Luke 15:10

(See Also: Matthew 9:13, Mark 2:17, Luke 5:32 & 15:7)

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For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Romans 10:13Romans 10:13

“Buddha?

“Allah?”“Jehovah?”“Krishna?

“A Hindu Cow?”“A Hindu Cow?”

“Mary?”

“Mohammad?”

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Jesus saith unto him,

I am the way, the truth, and the life:

no man cometh unto the Father, but by

me.

Jesus saith unto him,

I am the way, the truth, and the life:

no man cometh unto the Father, but by

me. John 14:6John 14:6

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Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other

name under heaven given among men,

whereby we must be saved.

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other

name under heaven given among men,

whereby we must be saved.

Acts 4:12Acts 4:12

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Romans 10:9Romans 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy

mouth the Lord Jesus,

That if thou shalt confess with thy

mouth the Lord Jesus,

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Romans 10:9Romans 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy

mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from

the dead,

That if thou shalt confess with thy

mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from

the dead,

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Romans 10:9Romans 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy

mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from

the dead, thou shalt be saved.

That if thou shalt confess with thy

mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from

the dead, thou shalt be saved.

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Why doth this man thus speak

blasphemies?

Why doth this man thus speak

blasphemies?

Mark 2:7Mark 2:7

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Why doth this man thus speak

blasphemies? who can forgive

sins but God only?

Why doth this man thus speak

blasphemies? who can forgive

sins but God only?

Mark 2:7Mark 2:7

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These things have I written unto you that

believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye

may believe on the name of the Son of God.

These things have I written unto you that

believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye

may believe on the name of the Son of God.

1 John 5:131 John 5:13

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Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Matthew 28:19-20Matthew 28:19-20

Jesus said…Jesus said…

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Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all

things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am

with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all

things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am

with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Matthew 28:19-20Matthew 28:19-20

Jesus said…Jesus said…

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The fruit of the righteous is a tree of

life; and he that winneth

souls is wise.

The fruit of the righteous is a tree of

life; and he that winneth

souls is wise.

Proverbs 11:30Proverbs 11:30

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II Peter 3:10II Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the

heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with

fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are

therein shall be burned up.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the

heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with

fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are

therein shall be burned up.

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II Peter 3:11-12II Peter 3:11-12

Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy

conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto

the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens

being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy

conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto

the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens

being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Everything’s gonna BURN!!!

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How then shall they call on him in whom they have not

believed?

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not

believed?

Romans 10:14Romans 10:14

Paul asked…Paul asked…

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How then shall they call on him in whom they have not

believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not

heard?

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not

believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not

heard?

Romans 10:14Romans 10:14

Paul asked…Paul asked…

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How then shall they call on him in whom they have not

believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not

heard? and how shall they hear

without a preacher?

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not

believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not

heard? and how shall they hear

without a preacher?

Romans 10:14Romans 10:14

Paul asked…Paul asked…

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So then faith cometh by

hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

So then faith cometh by

hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Romans 10:17Romans 10:17

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The fruit of the righteous is a

tree of life; and he that winneth

souls is wise.

The fruit of the righteous is a

tree of life; and he that winneth

souls is wise.

Proverbs 11:30Proverbs 11:30

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Well, so how do I

win souls...?!

I don’t suggest with a beer…

I don’t suggest with a beer…

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Keep doing the things God told

us to do.Read the Bible,

go to church and keep your heart

clean!

Keep doing the things God told

us to do.Read the Bible,

go to church and keep your heart

clean!

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Take some people with you to heaven! Let’s turn

off the T.V., get off our couch and win some

souls!* Romans 3:23

* Romans 10:13

* Romans 6:23

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Take some people with you to heaven! Let’s turn

off the T.V., get off our couch and win some

souls!* Romans 3:23

* Romans 10:13

* Romans 6:23

But I give money to

missionaries and the church!

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454 ground support personnel are required to keep an F-15 in the air for 1 hour!

454 ground support personnel are required to keep an F-15 in the air for 1 hour!

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For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The

labourer is worthy of his reward.

For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The

labourer is worthy of his reward.

I Timothy 5:18I Timothy 5:18

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Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not

by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy

lucre, but of a ready mind;

Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not

by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy

lucre, but of a ready mind;

1 Peter 5:2 1 Peter 5:2

Support the thing that you stand for!

Support the thing that you stand for!

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…The fire will not touch the ones in the water.

God’s judgment will not hurt those in Christ.

…The fire will not touch the ones in the water.

God’s judgment will not hurt those in Christ.

Did you know…Did you know…

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SmokingSmoking

Non-SmokingNon-Smoking

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You will be dead for a loooooong time!

We will all die someday!

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All you have is a dash. Use it for God!

All you have is a dash. Use it for God!

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All you have is a dash. Use it for God!

All you have is a dash. Use it for God!

You can give it away or throw it away.

You can give it away or throw it away.

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Some claim tobe atheists.

Some claim tobe atheists.

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Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in

his heart,there is no God.

Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in

his heart,there is no God.

Some claim tobe atheists.

Some claim tobe atheists.

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Teach the Truth MinistriesTeach the Truth Ministries

I absolutely love soul-winning!

I absolutely love soul-winning!

“Doc” Ronny Allard

2110 2nd St. S.South St. Paul, MN 55075

612-978-2260

[email protected]

“Doc” Ronny Allard

2110 2nd St. S.South St. Paul, MN 55075

612-978-2260

[email protected]

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Why not let us know so that we can help?

Teach the Truth Ministries2110 2nd St. South

South St. Paul, MN 55075(612) 978-2260

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Next: Questions and Answers

We will break for

10 minutes,

Then we will

answer questions

.