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Discussion Peter Guttorp Norwegian Computing Center University of Washington

Discussion Peter Guttorp Norwegian Computing Center University of Washington

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Page 1: Discussion Peter Guttorp Norwegian Computing Center University of Washington

Discussion

Peter GuttorpNorwegian Computing Center

University of Washington

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Some points

The Hurst effect

Effect of long term memory on standard analyses

Trend and error

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Hurst effect

H. E. Hurst

Storage capacity

of dams

is input at time k,

Hurst found that often RN~NH

where H > ½ is the Hurst coefficient.

Feller showed H = ½ for iid

k ZN kk1

NZt,N Zt

t

NZN RN maxZt,N minZt,N

k

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Hurst coefficient is not fractal dimension

For self-scaling (fractal) processes on the line D+H = 2

D is fractal dimension of path. For stationary Gaussian process

.

Long memory has

with Hurst coefficient

In the spectral domain the corresponding features are

1 c(h) : h

as h 0 D 2

2

c(h) : h

as h H 1

2

f() : 1as and f() : 1

as 0.

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The spectrum

1.95

0.1

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D=2.75 D=2.5 D=2

H=.9875

H=.95

H=.55

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Hurst coefficient is not only long memory

Bhattacharya, Gupta & Waymire:

A short term memory process with trend has Hurst coefficient

Statistical problems: Estimating H

Removing trend

(Demetris does not remove trend; Peter and Armin do)

(c n) 2

12

, 0 1

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But does it matter?

Smith and Chen (1996) applied to Hadley global temperature series

Linear trend estimate 0.43°C per decade, se 1.2x10-3

OLS same trend, se 2.6x10-4

H .92

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Effect of trend removal

Residuals from either AR(4)

H .8

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Residual plots