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DC-3 Dakotas & Needle Nose RAN FAA Pp21

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The 'Needle Nosed - Queer' DC-3 Dakota was used to train RAN FAA [Royal Australian Navy Fleet Air Arm] Observers on the Sea Venom Radar (needle nose) and the Gannet Radar (dome retracted under fuselage).

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16 Aug 1968
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http://www.navy.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/Navy_News-August-16-1968.pdf
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1968-69 NAS Nowra Skyhawk flightline with 2 Dakotas & the ‘needle-nose’ Dak in front of the VS-816 & VC-851 S-2 Tracker “H” Hangar
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Photo by John Bartels
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‘Needle-Nose’ DC-3 Dakota (Sea Venom Radar Nose)
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Air Day Mixed Fly By NAS Nowra, 12 Oct 1969 — Gooney Bird Leader going flat out downhill with 886 Pilot Lcdr John Park USN
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Vampire 807: Pilot Aslt Phil Thompson & ‘Photographer’ Aslt Murray Smythe (P) in right hand seat
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A Tracker and a Sea Venom were on the Starboard side of Dakota — All in ‘V’ form
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Nowra Air Day 1969 Mixed + Form Macchi 1974 VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mueKRfbkXw
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Sblt Murray Smythe is in the right-hand seat - with a camera - of our ‘724’ Vampire 807. It is on the outside left of the formation, on the left of the Skyhawk (pilot Leut John Park USN), the Dakota is in the lead with a Tracker on its right and a Sea Venom (Leut Barrie Daly?) outside on righthand side. The Dakota C47 was going ‘downhill’ slightly - as fast as it could go - so that the Skyhawk and Sea Venom had some airspeed above their stalling speeds (heavy). The Sea Vampire was OK at that speed, probably 110 knots? The Tracker OK also. The Skyhawk was very fuel heavy so that it could remain airborne until the end of the air show. Video clip from Graham Winterflood.
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This page is from my RAN logbook during my 1st year at NAS Nowra in 1969 on VC-724 Squadron
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Mixed Flyby, Air Day NAS Nowra Photo by Ken Hodge 12 Oct 1969
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http://www.navy.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/Navy_News-November-23-1973.pdf
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‘Goonies’ Paying Off Fly Past
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Northern End of ‘H’ Hangar
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Nov 1973
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http://www.douglasdc3.com/tech/tech.htm
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All R-1830 engines fitted to C-47s, regardless of model, were supercharged. The C-47A had the R-1830-92 which had a single speed supercharger, the C-47B had the R-1830-90 or -90B, which had a two speed supercharger which would have provided improved high altitude performance. Regardless of model, I would expect that in the later life of most of the RAN and RAAF C-47s they would have been fitted with the R-1830-92 which would have been less complex due to the single speed supercharger.
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PHOTO BY WAL NELOWKIN: “1965 Airborne colour Flightdeck photo taken in 'In-Service' RAAF C-47B Dakota A65-114, on a flight from RAAF Laverton (YMLV). The Dakota was operated by 'Aircraft Research & Development Unit' (ARDU). Photo taken near Geelong, during a 45 minute Famil Flight for a group of DCS 11 Course Air Cadets, when ARDU was still based at Laverton. (My first flight in a Military Aircraft.) The Dak is flying at 130Kts at 4750 Feet, Heading 360. This aircraft is now in the South Australian Aviation Museum at Port Adelaide. A65-114 was Delivered to the RAAF in June 1945 ex USAAC 44-77128 and used Callsign VH-RGB. Apologies for the quality of this 44 year old photo. (Use of Falshbulbs was prohibited in AVGAS fuelled aircraft.)”
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http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6646286&nseq=78
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http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6628911&nseq=94
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'Flight Deck View' taken in 'Ansett Airways' DC-3 VH-ABR, while on static display at the Inaugural Avalon Airshow in October 1992. This aircraft started service with Australian National Airways (ANA) in 1938, and was pressed into RAAF service as A30-3 in Sep 1939, at the start of WWII. This aircraft is still flying, and she was displayed at the Avalon International Airshow in March 2009. PHOTO & COMMENTS BY WAL NELOWKIN
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Photo by Clive Dyball
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Royal Australian Navy Historic Flight Dakota N2-90 / VH-NVZ. Photograph by Alan Scoot
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http://www.cnapg.org/dakota.htm
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http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/air-recent/long-nose.jpg
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https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P00444.025/ “NOWRA NSW. DOUGLAS C47 DAKOTA MODIFIED TO A FLYING CLASSROOM IN WHICH RAN FLEET AIR ARM PERSONNEL RECEIVED NAVIGATION TRAINING. MODIFICATIONS VISIBLE ARE THE EXTENDED NOSE OF THE AIRCRAFT AND RADOME INSTALLED. (NAVAL HISTORICAL COLLECTION)” http://static.awm.gov.au/images/collection/items/ACCNUM_SCREEN/P00444.025.JPG
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“The above photograph shows the Dakota modified as an ASV Mark 19 B radar trainer. In addition to the Gannet radome under the fuselage, the aircraft also carried the Sea Venom radar in the nose to train these operators as well. Photograph Courtesy of Bob Geale [FAAM].” http://www.ekco-radar.co.uk/ASV19/asv.php
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Photo by Steve McDonald at NAS Nowra Air Day 1978
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‘The Needle-Nose Dak’
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NAS Nowra 1989
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Photo by Gerard Helmer
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From http://www.adf-serials.com.au/n2.htm: “N2-43 n/a C-47A 12542 42-92711 Delivered to the RAN 01/02/49. Served with 851 Sqdn, 723, 724 and 725 Sqdn's as ‘NW-900’, ‘NW-860’, ‘NW-800’. Fitted out as a Flying Classroom at one time to train Sea Venom & Gannet Observers. If one looks at its long nose & a Sea Venom they will see the resemblance as A117 & ASV radar was fitted to the aircraft. Sea Venom radar in the nose & Gannet radar in the rear of the aircraft protruding underneath. When acquired C/W, morse code was the main communications used. Taken out of RAN service on 12/01/70 it had been flown 3,181.30 hours. In 1976 it was allocated to the Fleet Air Arm Museum (FAAM) at HMAS Albatross (formerly NAS Nowra).”
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Navy News 14 May 2001
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Photo by R. Leeuw 2005 at FAAM
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