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Cookie cutter doesn’t cut it TO THE EDITORS: I read with interest “A clinical pathway for postoperative management and early patient discharge: does it work in gynecologic oncology?” but I find the data impossible to interpret without defined inclusion and exclusion criteria and without explanation of how the pathway was implemented in cases necessitating hospital stays of 2 days. 1 I cannot be- lieve that a patient who goes to the intensive care unit intubated after a 10-hour debulking is drinking tea the next morning. Sure, ovarian cancer diagnoses and radical surgeries are asso- ciated with longer hospital stays, but they also comprise the part of a gynecologic oncologist’s practice that makes it differ- ent from a general gynecologist’s practice, and cookie cutter management does not apply. Had the authors narrowed their inclusion criteria to, say, endometrial cancer cases and ex- cluded, say, patients going to the intensive care unit and those undergoing exenterations or any procedure taking longer than 8 hours, this pathway might be applicable to the treatment of such patients. However, as presented, it is a stretch to say this pathway “works” in gynecologic oncology. f Stephanie V. Blank, MD Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology Division of Gynecologic Oncology New York University School of Medicine 160 East 34th St. New York, NY 10016 [email protected] REFERENCE 1. Chase DM, Lopez S, Nguyen C, Pugmire GA, Monk BJ. A clinical pathway for postoperative management and early patient discharge: does it work in gynecologic oncology? Am J Obstet Gynecol 2008;199:541.e1-7. © 2009 Mosby, Inc. All rights reserved. doi: 10.1016/j.ajog.2008.12.047 REPLY Thank you for your interest in the evidence-based treatment of the postoperative gynecologic oncology patient. 1 For the demo- graphic information on the patients who were included in this study, please refer to the rest of the article at www.ajog.org. As stated in the text, this study was a retrospective cohort of 880 con- secutive patients who were treated by the same 2 surgeons. In this case series, there were 422 patients (48%) with a postoperative diagnosis of a gynecologic malignancy, with two-thirds of these having endometrial cancer. Importantly, 123 women were found to have ovarian carcinoma and were treated with radical and/or staging procedures. In those patients with malignancy, the median length of stay was 2 days (range, 2-52 days); however, older pa- tients, patients with ovarian cancer, and patients with higher body mass index and estimated blood loss did have longer hospital stays (P .01). For example, patients with ovarian cancer were dis- charged on average postoperative day 3 (range, 2-52 days). In regards to your hypothetical patient with ovarian cancer who was intubated in the intensive care unit after a 10-hour debulking surgery, there appears to be nothing that would prevent her from resuming a diet, receiving oral pain medications, ambulating, and discontinuing her Foley catheter after extubation on the first post- operative day. However, we agree that the protracted nature of her surgery is a risk factor for ileus. Clearly, postoperative manage- ment algorithms must be individualized; however, there is no ev- idence that the absence of flatus and bowel movements should prevent early feeding. 2 To suggest that an algorithm implies “cookie cutter” medicine is to suggest that incorporating evidence into clinical medicine is not reasonable. Our data were presented simply to help create rational evidence-based algorithms that might serve to guide a physician’s practice. f Dana M. Chase, MD Bradley J. Monk, MD Division of Gynecologic Oncology Chao Family Comprehensive Cancer Center University of California Irvine, Medical Center 101 The City Dr, Building 56, Room 262 Orange, CA 92868 [email protected] REFERENCES 1. Chase DM, Lopez S, Nguyen C, Pugmire GA, Monk BJ. A clinical pathway for postoperative management and early patient discharge: does it work in gynecologic oncology? Am J Obstet Gynecol 2008;199:541.e1-7. 2. Charoenkwan K, Phillipson G, Vutyavanich T. Early versus delayed (traditional) oral fluids and food for reducing complications after major abdominal gynaecologic surgery. Cochrane Database Syst Rev 2007;4:CD004508. © 2009 Mosby, Inc. All rights reserved. doi: 10.1016/j.ajog.2008.12.048 Episiotomy use has changed TO THE EDITORS: I was interested to read the recent edito- rial “Synthesize evidence and they will change?” 1 by John Thorp. Although I agree with the main premise of the “build it and they will come” hypothesis of evidence-based medicine, I do not agree with Dr Thorp’s use of episiotomy as an example to demonstrate this premise. Dr Thorp states that “Despite this evidence, the US practice [of routine use of episiotomy] did not change. . .” On the con- trary, the practice of episiotomy in the United States has changed markedly over time. For example, in a study that ex- amined national episiotomy practice, the use per 100 vaginal deliveries decreased from 65.3% in 1979 to 38.6% in 1997. 2 Letters to the Editors www. AJOG.org JULY 2009 American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology e17

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O THE EDITORS: I read with interest “A clinical pathway forostoperative management and early patient discharge: does itork in gynecologic oncology?” but I find the data impossible

o interpret without defined inclusion and exclusion criteriand without explanation of how the pathway was implementedn cases necessitating hospital stays of � 2 days.1 I cannot be-ieve that a patient who goes to the intensive care unit intubatedfter a 10-hour debulking is drinking tea the next morning.ure, ovarian cancer diagnoses and radical surgeries are asso-iated with longer hospital stays, but they also comprise theart of a gynecologic oncologist’s practice that makes it differ-nt from a general gynecologist’s practice, and cookie cutteranagement does not apply. Had the authors narrowed their

nclusion criteria to, say, endometrial cancer cases and ex-luded, say, patients going to the intensive care unit and thosendergoing exenterations or any procedure taking longer thanhours, this pathway might be applicable to the treatment of

uch patients. However, as presented, it is a stretch to say thisathway “works” in gynecologic oncology. f

tephanie V. Blank, MDepartment of Obstetrics and Gynecologyivision of Gynecologic Oncologyew York University School of Medicine

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EFERENCE. Chase DM, Lopez S, Nguyen C, Pugmire GA, Monk BJ. A clinicalathway for postoperative management and early patient discharge:oes it work in gynecologic oncology? Am J Obstet Gynecol008;199:541.e1-7.

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hank you for your interest in the evidence-based treatment of theostoperative gynecologic oncology patient.1 For the demo-raphic information on the patients who were included in thistudy, please refer to the rest of the article at www.ajog.org. Astated in the text, this study was a retrospective cohort of 880 con-

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ase series, there were 422 patients (48%) with a postoperativeiagnosis of a gynecologic malignancy, with two-thirds of theseaving endometrial cancer. Importantly, 123 women were foundo have ovarian carcinoma and were treated with radical and/ortagingprocedures. In thosepatientswithmalignancy, themedianength of stay was 2 days (range, 2-52 days); however, older pa-ients, patients with ovarian cancer, and patients with higher body

ass index and estimated blood loss did have longer hospital staysP � .01). For example, patients with ovarian cancer were dis-harged on average postoperative day 3 (range, 2-52 days).

In regards to your hypothetical patient with ovarian cancer whoas intubated in the intensive care unit after a 10-hour debulking

urgery, there appears to be nothing that would prevent her fromesuming a diet, receiving oral pain medications, ambulating, andiscontinuing her Foley catheter after extubation on the first post-perative day. However, we agree that the protracted nature of herurgery is a risk factor for ileus. Clearly, postoperative manage-

ent algorithms must be individualized; however, there is no ev-dence that the absence of flatus and bowel movements shouldrevent early feeding.2 To suggest that an algorithm impliescookie cutter” medicine is to suggest that incorporating evidencento clinical medicine is not reasonable. Our data were presentedimply to help create rational evidence-based algorithms that

ight serve to guide a physician’s practice. f

ana M. Chase, MDradley J. Monk, MDivision of Gynecologic Oncologyhao Family Comprehensive Cancer Centerniversity of California Irvine, Medical Center

01 The City Dr, Building 56, Room 262range, CA [email protected]

EFERENCES. Chase DM, Lopez S, Nguyen C, Pugmire GA, Monk BJ. A clinicalathway for postoperative management and early patient discharge:oes it work in gynecologic oncology? Am J Obstet Gynecol008;199:541.e1-7.. Charoenkwan K, Phillipson G, Vutyavanich T. Early versus delayed

traditional) oral fluids and food for reducing complications after majorbdominal gynaecologic surgery. Cochrane Database Syst Rev007;4:CD004508.

2009 Mosby, Inc. All rights reserved. doi: 10.1016/j.ajog.2008.12.048

O THE EDITORS: I was interested to read the recent edito-ial “Synthesize evidence and they will change?”1 by Johnhorp. Although I agree with the main premise of the “build itnd they will come” hypothesis of evidence-based medicine, Io not agree with Dr Thorp’s use of episiotomy as an example

Dr Thorp states that “Despite this evidence, the US practiceof routine use of episiotomy] did not change. . .” On the con-rary, the practice of episiotomy in the United States hashanged markedly over time. For example, in a study that ex-mined national episiotomy practice, the use per 100 vaginal

eliveries decreased from 65.3% in 1979 to 38.6% in 1997.2

JULY 2009 American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology e17