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CMEGroup(CME)EarningsReport:Q12016ConferenceCallTranscriptThefollowingCMEGroupconferencecalltookplaceonApril28,2016,08:30AMET.Thisisatranscriptofthatearningscall:
CompanyPart icipants
JohnPeschier;CMEGroup;InvestorRelationsPhupinderGill;CMEGroup;CEOJohnPietrowicz;CMEGroup;CFOSeanTully;CMEGroup;SeniorManagingDirector,Financial&OTCKimTaylor;CMEGroup;President,GlobalOperations,Technology&RiskDerekSammann;CMEGroup;SeniorManagingDirector,Commodities&OptionsProductsBryanDurkin;CMEGroup;CCO
OtherPart icipants
DanFannon;JefferiesLLC;AnalystRichardRepetto;SandlerO 'Neill&Partners;AnalystKenWorthington;JPMorgan;AnalystSameerMurukutla;BoAMerrillLynch;AnalystAlexKramm;UBS;AnalystAlexBlostein;GoldmanSachs;AnalystBrianBedell;DeutscheBank;AnalystChrisHarris;WellsFargoSecurities;AnalystKenHill;BarclaysCapital;AnalystKyleVoigt;Keefe,Bruyette&Woods;AnalystRobRutschow;CLSALimited;AnalystPatrickO'Shaughnessy;RaymondJames&Associates;Analyst
MANAGEMENTDISCUSSIONSECTION
Operator :
GooddayandwelcometotheCMEGroupfirstquarter2016earningscall.
IwouldliketoturntheconferenceovertoJohnPeschier.Pleasegoahead.
JohnPeschier (InvestorRelations):
Thankyouforjoiningusthismorning.
GillandJohnwillspendafewminutesdiscussingtheresultsandthenwewillopenupthecallforyourquestions.Terry,Bryan,Derek,SeanandKimareonthecallaswellandwillparticipateintheQ&Asession.
Beforetheybegin,IwillreadtheSafeHarborlanguage.
Statementsmadeonthiscallandintheslidesonourwebsitethatarenothistoricalfactsareforward-lookingstatements.Thesestatementsarenotguaranteesoffutureperformanceandinvolverisks,
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uncertaintiesandassumptionsthataredifficulttopredict.Therefore,actualoutcomesandresultsmaydiffermateriallyfromwhatisexpressedorimpliedinanyforward-lookingstatements.
MoredetailedinformationaboutfactorsthatmayaffectourperformancemaybefoundinourfilingswiththeSECwhichareavailableonourwebsite.
Withthat,IwouldliketoturnthecallovertoGill.
PhupinderGill(CEO):
Thankyou,Mr.Peschier.Thankyouallforjoiningus.Itisanexceptionalstarttotheyearwithrecordquarterlyaveragedailyvolume,whichisup13%comparedwithanalreadystrongfirstquarterlastyear.Wehadverybalancedgrowthinbothfinancialandcommodityproducts,eachupdoubledigits.
WetrackcustomersegmentactivitycloselyandinQ1wehadmorethan10%growthfromassetmanagers,hedgefunds,corporates,proprietarytradingfundsandretailclientsduringthequarter.Volumefrombankswasup1%whichisstrongrelativetothedecreaseintheoveralltradingbusinessesovereachofthelastfewyears.
MorerecentlyAprilactivityhasbeenfairlystrongcomparedtolastyearandisupmorethan20%intotal.ItisencouragingtoseerelativelygoodvolumesasAprilhasbeenourslowestmonthoverthelasttwoyears.Openinterestremainselevatedandisupsignificantlysincethebeginningoftheyear.
ThismorningIwillstartwithourseculardriversandthenIwillshifttoafewproducthighlights.Wehaveconsistentlyexpandedourglobalparticipationinspiteofthechallengingmacroenvironment.WeareverypleasedwiththetremendousresultsfromoutsideoftheUSduringthefirstquarter.
Wehadrecordquarterlynon-USvolumebyfaraswellasthehighestproportionofthebusinessfromoutsideoftheUSsincewestartedtrackingtheinformationwithmorethan25%inthefirstquartercomparedto23%inthefirstquarteroflastyear.
InEurope,wehadaverystrongfirstquarteractivitywithvolumeincreasing28%from2.3millioncontractsperdaylastyeartomorethan2.9millionperdaythisyear.Theincreaseisledbyequities--whichjumped70%;andenergywasupalmost60%.InAsia,energywasup75%andequitiesgrewbyabout70%withmetalsrisingmorethan30%.
FocusingonAsiaforamoment,wehavebeendiscussingtheopportunitytoexpandouruserbasetoincludeChinesefirmsandentitiesformanyyears.Ourfocusstartedprimarilywithintermediariesandwearenowengagingdirectlywithassetmanagers,hedgefundsandotherentitiesthere.
WegenerallylookatourtradingdataintermsofwhatweseethroughMainlandChina,HongKongandTaiwan.InQ1,wereachedapproximately200,000contractsperdaycombined,whichisupfrom100,000contractsperdayinQ1of2014and125,000contractslastyear.
OurmostnotablerecentsuccessisinourenergyfranchisewherewehaveseenMainlandChinaaveragedailyvolumeincreasefromlessthan10,000contractsinthemiddleoflastyeartomorethan30,000contractsinQ1.AhighlightfromHongKongactivityisinourequitybusinesswithaveragedailyvolumetheremorethandoublingtoalmost25,000contractsperdayinQ1.Thesurgeinvolumeisgreattoseeandweareveryfortunatetohavehighlyappealingproductstooffertheseclients.
BasedonthechallengesinChinaoverthelastyear,webelievemanyofthesefirmsarecomfortabletradinginourregulatedmarketsandbenefitingfromthesignificantliquiditywehavearoundtheclock.
Speakingofthat,inadditiontothecountryorigininformationwesharewithyou,wealsotrackelectronic
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volumethroughoutthe24-hourtradingday.InQ1,volumeduringAsianhoursgrewbyalmost30%whileactivityduringEuropeanhoursrose60%.Liquiditybegetsliquidityandwearedisplayingdeeperelectronicmarketsinbothfuturesandmorerecentlyoptionsaroundtheclock.
Turningtooureffortsinoptions,weremainastrongleadercomparedtootherglobalexchangeswithQ1optionsvolumehittingarecord3.5millioncontractsperdaywhichisup22%withelectronicoptionsaveragedailyvolumerising26%toarecord1.8millioncontracts.ThecontinuedelectronificationofouroptionsfranchisehasenabledustofurtherglobalizeparticipationinouroptionsmarketswithourEuropeanoptionsvolumeup36%andAsianoptionsvolumesup25%inQ1.
Ourcontinuedinvestmentinsystemsenhancements,newproductsandclienteducationaredrivingsignificantlyincreasedusageofouroptionsproductsfromenduserswithvolumesfromhedgefundsandassetmanagersup34%andup29%respectively.
AcoupleofquickpointsandIwillfinishincommodityproducts.Startingwithinterestrates,volumerose9%tomorethan8millioncontractsadayandrevenueincreasedby14%withEurodollarsleadingtheway.WehitrecordlevelsofopeninterestinQ1inourratesbusinessdrivenbyEurodollaroptionsandtreasuryfutureswhichhitall-timehighs.WealsohadverystrongoptionsactivitywiththehighestquarterlyvolumeeverandreachedarecordpercentageoftheoptionstradingonGlobexinMarchwith71%electronicintreasuriesand25%electronicinEurodollars.SofarinApril,theelectronicpercentageinEurodollaroptionshasgrownto27%.
Ontheproductdevelopmentfront,wementionedourlaunchoftheUltra10-yearcontractonourlastearningscall.Thisproducthascontinuedtogainmomentumandhasattractedattentionwithseveralarticleswrittenoverthelastmonthrelatedtothisinnovativenewproduct.Inaddition,wearepleasedthatweclearedourfirstswaptionstradeearlierthismonthandwethinkthisisyetanotherexampleofinnovatingandbeingfirsttomarketwithacustomer-ledsolution.
Wehelda(swap-options)customerwebinarthatattractedover500participantswithsignificantfollow-updiscussionsandwehadanumberofproductiveclienteventsrelatedtotheproduct.OurdollarrateswapsmarketsharereachedthehighestlevelinMarchthatwehaveseenoverthelastsixmonthsandwehada15%pickupinrevenuecaptureinswapsclearingversusQ4lastyear.
Lastly,weareactivelyinvolvedwithaworkinggroupofintermediariesandcustomersonapotentialrepoclearingoffering.Ifthatdevelopsoverthenextquarters,wewillshareadditionalinformation.
Turningtoequities,wearepleasedwiththestartoftheyearwithQ1volumeup28%andAprilupmorethan30%.Wehavehadsolidactivityinequityoptionswhichgrew20%duringthequarter.InQ1,ourS&P500optionsmarketshareversusCBOEexpandedto29.4%from27.8%lastyear.Openinterestinequityoptionsrose13%comparedtotheprioryearandournewBTICordertypecontinuestoperformwellandtradeat20,000contractsforthefirsttimeonMarch31.
Movingontoourcommoditiesportfolio,thesebusinesslinesoverallwereup13%.EnergyhasbeenparticularlystrongwithrecordQ1averagedailyvolumeof2.5millioncontractsandAprilhascontinuedtoberobustwithvolumesupalmost40%.WTIfutureshadarecordquarteraveragingabout1.2millioncontractsperdayandgasolinefuturesactivitywasalsoatarecordlevel.
Imentionedoptionsearlierandwithinenergy,wehadrecordWTIoptionsvolumeofover200,000contractsperdayandmorethan145,000contractsperdayonGlobex.Ournaturalgasoptionswereup38%duringthequarterandwehadarecordpercentageofvolumetradedelectronicallythere.Additionally,wesetarecordnumberoflargeopeninterestholdersinourenergyfuturesinQ1.
Ourmetalsbusinesswasalsoastandoutinthefirstquarterwithvolumesup23%.Ourpreciousmetals
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averagedailyvolumewasup26%ledbyoptionswhichrose36%inQ1.Asmanyofyouknow,wehavemadesignificantinroadsintobaseandferrousmetalsbusinessesandwecontinuetoexpandourpresenceinthesekeygrowthareas.
Ourcopperbusinessisup11%andwehitanewopeninterestrecordduringQ1.Wecontinuetooutperformourprimarycompetitorinthismarketwherewehavepostedfastergrowthincopperineachofthelastfivequarters.
Inaluminum,wecontinuetoexpandoursuiteofaluminumofferingsachievingrecordvolumesandincreasingouropeninterestfivefoldinthelast12months.Andinironore,leveragingourcustomervaluepropositionofglobalelectronictradingoffuturesandoptionsandcustomeranonymity,wehavehadgrowingopeninterestandarecordtradingdayofalmost13,000contracts.Wehavenowachievedironoremarketshareof10%inQ1,upfromjust3%in2015aswecontinuetosuccessfullyexpandanddiversifyourglobalsuiteofmetalsproducts.
Finally,agriculturalproductshavebeenparticularlystronginAprilandaretrackingtowardamonthlyaveragedailyvolumerecordforthemonthafteraslowstarttotheyear.TradinghastakenoffbasedonproductionuncertaintyinSouthAmericawherewetconditionsinArgentinaanddryconditionsinBrazilarecausingconcerns.Wehadtwoconsecutiverecordtradingdayslastweekintheoverallcomplexwithalmost3millioncontractsincludingrecordsoybeanproductvolumeabove1.5millioncontractsononeofthosedays.
Electronicagoptionsaresurgingupfromnear130,000inAprillastyeartomorethan250,000dailysofarthisApril.Importantly,openinterestinsoybeanandcornfuturesareup16%and8%respectivelyfromlastyear.Finally,lastweekwereachedanall-timehighinlargeopeninterestholdersinagriculturalproducts.
Insummary,wecontinuetoworkwithourcustomersonbringinginnovativeriskmanagementsolutionstothemarketplaceandourproductdiversityisunparalleled.Johnwilltouchonourprogresstocontinuetostreamlineourinfrastructurecosts,toreallocateourexpensestogrowthinitiativesandtofurtherinnovateinourbusinesses.
Withthat,IamgoingtoturnthecallovertoJohntodiscussthefinancials.Thankyou.
JohnPietrowicz (CFO):
Thankyou,Gill.Goodmorning,everyone.
Ourteamhasbeenintenselyfocusedonthreethings,drivingglobalrevenuegrowth,operatingourbusinessasefficientlyaswecan,andreturningexcesscapitaltoourshareholdersinaconsistentway.AsGillmentioned,wehadatremendousstarttotheyearwithstrongandbalancedrevenuegrowth.Totalrevenuewasup11%comparedtoaverystrongquarterlastyearwhiletotaladjustedexpenserosejust3%.Ouradjustedoperatingmarginexpandedto65%andadjustedEPSof$1.15wasup17%.
Ourratepercontractforthefirstquarterwas$0.756,down4%from$0.789inQ4asouroverallADVrose29%sequentially.Thebiggestimpactswerememberversusnonmembermixandvolumediscounttiersthisquarterduetothelargeincreaseinactivity.
Comparedtothefourthquarter,ourmembersvolumegrew30%andnonmembersjumped23%.Inaddition,wehadhighervolumediscountsinQ1relativetoQ4asaresultofsignificantgrowthincertainproducts.
Marketdatarevenuewasup4.5%comparedtoQ1lastyearandinlinewithourguidance.Wecontinuetomonitorthislinecarefullyasweareseeingsomerationalizationaswebringallcustomersinlinewith
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thefullpriceofferingandweareseeingsomescreendeclinesduetorecentbankstaffreductions.
Adjustedoperatingexpensesforthequartertotaled$327million,up3%drivenprimarilybyan$8millionincreaseinlicensingandotherfeeagreements.Excludinglicensefees,ourtotalexpenseyear-over-yearwasapproximatelyflatandasareminder,ourannualguidancewasa1%increaseonthatbasis.
Weendedthequarterwithapproximately2600employeeswiththemajorityofthehiringdoneinIndiaandBelfastwhichispartofourplantoreducetechnologyexpensewhileimprovingservicebystaffinginthoselower-costlocationsandreducingcontractors.OurcompensationratioforQ1cameinat14.1%comparedto16.1%forthefull-yearof2015.
Lookingatthenonoperatingincomeandexpenseline,ourownershipintheS&PDowJonesjointventuredrovemorethan$26millioninnetearningsfromunconsolidatedsubsidiarieswhichwasup13%fromtheprioryear.WearepleasedwiththeinvestmentwemadeintheIndexbusinesswhilealsoassuringwecontinuetooffertheworld'sleadingIndexfuturesproductsonCME.
Nowturningtoinvestmentincome,wehadameaningfulincreaseininvestmentincomedrivenalmostentirelybythereturnsgeneratedthroughreinvestmentofcashperformancebondsandguarantyfundcontributions.
Theriseinshort-termratesattheendoftheyearresultedinanincreaseininvestmentincomeof$17million.DuringQ1,wehadreturnedapproximately$10millionofthattoclearingfirms,whichisdisplayedontheincomestatementunderothernon-operatingexpense.Thisamountisanticipatedtoincreaseasourinvestmentreturnsgrow.
WerecentlyreceivedapprovaltoestablishanaccountdirectlyattheFed.Atthispointtheaccountwillonlybeforclearingfirmhousepositionsheldincash.WearecurrentlyintheprocessofoperationalizingtheaccountswiththeFed.Wheneffective,weexpecttopassahigherratetoclearingmembersfortheirhousepositionsthanwedotoday.
CashheldinsegregatedcustomeraccountswillcontinuetobeinvestedthroughcommercialbanksandU.S.Treasurysecuritiesastheyarenow.Weexpectthatthehouseaccountswillbeoperationalinthenextmonthorsoasinthepastweplantocontinuetopassthroughthemajorityoftheearningsbacktotheclearingmembers.
Turningtotaxes,forthequarterweendedat36.3%,slightlybelowourguidance.
Andnowtothebalancesheet.DuringQ1,wepaidalmost$1.2billionindividendstoshareholdersincludingourvariabledividendandthefirstregulardividend.Attheendofthefirstquarter,wehad$1.33billionincash,restrictedcashandmarketablesecurities.Weadded$130millionduringthequarterdrivenbythesale-leasebacktransactionofourdatacenterwithCyrusOne.
Duringthefirstquarter,capitalexpendituresnetofleaseholdimprovementallowanceswere$16millionaswecontinuetoleveragemoresoftwareandinfrastructureasaservicewhichisincludedinexpense.
Wecontinueourintensefocusonefficiency,withthesaleofourofficebuildingsoverthelastfewyearsandmorerecentlyourdatacenter,wearetakinganassetlightapproachwhichwillallowwastofocusonrunningourcorebusiness.I
n2015,wede-layeredthemanagementstructure,closedfuturespits,reducedmarketingcostandfocusedondatacenterconsolidation.Sofarthisyearwehavecompletedthesaleofourdatacenter,subletexcessofficespaceinChicago,announcedtheclosureofourtradingfloorsinNewYorkatyear-endandhavebeguntooffshoresomepositionsreducingcompensationandconsultingcosts.
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Withthesaleandleasebackofourdatacenter,wewillcontinuetooperateourtradingandclearingfunctionsaswellasourco-locationbusinessandwewillcontinuetoreceivethecorrespondingco-locationrevenue.Fromanearningsperspective,thistransactionisapproximatelyneutral.
Intermsofexpenses,wewillseeanetreductionintotalquarterlyexpenseofabout$1millionprimarilyindepreciationandweexpectacorrespondingincreaseunderinterestexpense.
TurningtotheNewYorkfloor,wewillsaveapproximately$5millionofexpenseannuallybeginningin2017andpossiblyanother$3millionperyearifwecansuccessfullysubleasethespace.
Insummary,Iamverypleasedwiththehardworkthisquarteracrosstheentirebusiness.Asyouknow,operatingleverageinourbusinessissignificantandthiswasclearlyevidencedbythemarginonincrementalrevenueofapproximately90%.
Wehaveoutlinedmanypositivesgoingforwardincludingbuildingliquidityaroundtheclockandfromaroundtheworld,innovatingnewproducts,gettingaccesstotheFedaccountswhichshouldbenefitbothourintermediariesandourshareholders,andcontinuingtofocusonourefficiencystrategy.
Withthat,wewouldliketoopenupthecallforyourquestions.Giventhenumberofanalystswhocoverus,weaskthatyoulimityourselftoonequestionsowecangettoeveryone.
Pleasefeelfreetogetbackintothequeueifyouhaveanyfurtherquestions.Thankyou.
QUESTIONS&ANSWERS
Operator :
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DanFannon,Jefferies.
DanFannon (Analyst-JefferiesLLC):
Thanks.Goodmorning.SinceyourlastcalltherehasbeenalotofheadlinesaroundM&AorpotentialM&Ainyourindustry.
Gill,ifyoucouldupdateusonyourthoughtsaroundyourviewsaroundM&A,bothlarge-scaleaswellasstrategic?
Andthen,John,alsomaybetalkaboutthefinancialaspectsasyouguysthinkaboutreturnthresholdsaroundpotentialacquisitions?
PhupinderGill(CEO):
Dan,Ithinkthestoryisconsistentwithwhatwehavespokentoyouaboutinthepast.WewillcontinueourfocusonourglobalizationontheoptionsgrowthIhadtalkedalittlebitaboutashortwhileago.AndaswellaswhatwearenowcallingcapitalefficiencieswhichisacombinationofabunchofthingswhichisessentiallywhetherwearetalkingaboutclearingofOTCtrades,thefuturizationofthemarketplace,brandnewclientsorthecrossmarginingandthecompressionservicesthatweoffer.
Andwiththatfocusthatwehavewecontinuetoremainopportunisticwithrespecttoanykindofopportunitiesthatwemightseethatmakesenseforbothourselves,ourshareholdersaswellasourclients.
JohnPietrowicz (CFO):
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Dan,thisisJohnjumpingin.Wewillgetbothorganicandinorganicgrowthopportunitiesallthetimeandreallyitisaboutcreatingshareholdervalueinthebestwaypossible.Sowelookatacquisitionsinparticular.Welookatitfromobviouslymultiplevaluationmetrics,isitaccretiveovertimetoearnings?Doesitcreatevaluebylookingatcashflowmodels?Sowhenwelookatreturnthresholds,weusuallyuseabout9%to10%askindofthethresholdthatwelookat.
ButIthinkforusitisarewecreatingshareholdervalue,howisthebestwaytogetfromastrategicperspectivetowherewewanttobe?Isitgrowingthebusinessorganically,investingthebusinessorganicallyorisitpurchasinggoodservicesoranothercompanyfromsomebodyelse?Sothatiswhatwewouldlookat.
DanFannon (Analyst-JefferiesLLC):
Thankyou.
Operator :
RichardRepetto,SandlerO 'Neill.
RichardRepetto (Analyst-SandlerO 'Neill&Partners):
Goodmorning,guys.Somyquestionisonexpenses.Youarerunningsignificantlybelowthefull-yearguidancelikewecomeoutwith1.15andtheguidanceIbelieveis1.18.Andthiswasahighrevenuequarter,yougothighpayrolltaxes.Theotherthingtogoalongwiththat,youarerunningsignificantlybelowonCapExaswell,thefull-yearrunrate.SoI'mjusttryingtoseewhattheexpenseguide,whetherit'smaintainedandifitismaintained,whatcouldwebespendingstuffoninthebackthreequarters?
JohnPietrowicz (CFO):
Thanks,Rich.ExpensecontrolandrunningourbusinessasefficientlyaspossibleisaverybigfocusoftheentiremanagementteamandithasreallybecomepartofourDNA.Whenwelookattheexpenses,thefirstquartertendstobeaslowerquarterintermsofexpensesaswebuildupandprojectsgetlaunchedinthesecondandthirdquarters.Butifyoulookatslide14,youcanseetheresultsofourfocusonexpenses.Youcanseethatovertimewehavehadexpandingoperatingmarginsandwe'vegotincrementalmarginslastyearof112%and90%incrementalmarginsthisquarterandoperatingmarginsaround65%.
Soithasbeenalargefocusofours.Intermsoftheguidance,wehaveguidedtoaverymodest1%increaseinexpensesex-licensefees.Wearenotadjustingguidanceatthistimebutweareintenselyfocusedonthebusinessandrunningthebusinessasefficientlyaspossible.
WhatthisdoesisthisallowsustofreeupcostsforgrowthinitiativesandsomeofthegrowthinitiativesGilloutlinedinhispreparedremarksandforexampleswaptionsissomethingthatwewillbelaunchingthatmaybeSeancancommentonasanexampleofwhatweareworkingon.
SeanT ully(SeniorManagingDirector,Financial&OTC):
Yes,sure.IntermsofourOTCclearing,whichGilltalkedaboutintermsofofferingcapitalandmarginefficienciestothemarketplace,weactuallywerecentlylaunchedBRL,interestrateswapclearingwhichisauniquevaluepropositionrelativetoourlargecompetitor.Mexicanpeso,welaunchedalittleoverayearago,itisdoingextremelywell.Wedidhaveourfirstswaptionstradeveryrecently.Weareveryexcitedabouthowthatwilldevelopoverthecomingtwoquarters.
Andinadditiontothat,weareworkingverycloselywiththemarketplaceonrepoclearingasGill
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mentionedinhisremarks.Sowearetalkingtoandworkingcloselywiththesamesetoffolksthatweworkedwithinordertolaunchoursuccessfulinterestrateswapclearinginitiativeandwearelookingatreplicatingthatwithsolvingalotofthemarketplacesissuesintherepoparticularlyinthetreasuryrepomarketsimilarly.
JohnPietrowicz (CFO):
So,Rich,Imeanwearefocusedonexpensemanagement,wearefocusedonreducinginfrastructurecostsandfreeingupthosecoststoinvestinnewinitiativeslikeSeanjustmentioned.
Operator :
KenWorthington,JPMorgan.
KenWorthington (Analyst-JPMorgan):
Goodmorning.IntermsofyouruseoftheFedforhousepositions,howmuchmoneycangetplacedwiththeFedundertheexistingstructurethatyoujustgotsetupwiththeapproval?Towhatextentcanyoumovebeyondthisforjusthousepositionsinthefuture?
Andthenyoumentionedthepassingofthemajorityincomebacktoclients.TowhatextentdoesthisgiveCMEanopportunitytokeepmoreaswell?I'msureyouwon'tanswerbutIwillaskitanyway.Ifso,howmuch?
JohnPietrowicz (CFO):
Thanks,Ken.Wehavebeenveryfocusedondrivingourinvestmentincomeline.Infact,ifyoutakealooksince2012inthefirstquarterof2012,weactuallyhadan$18millionexpenseinnonoperatingincomeandnowwehavedriventhattoa$5millionincomeonthatline.Sooverallwhenyoulookattheearningsthatwegotformanagingcollateral,weearnedapproximately$7millionthisquarterthroughinvestingthatcollateralwhichisaboutdoublelastquarter.Itwasdrivenprimarilybytheincreaseininterestrates.
AccesstotheFedaccountswillbeforhousepositionsheldincashsototheextentthatthatcashbalanceincreasesthereisanopportunityforustoearnmoreandwewillbeabletoprovidemorecoloronhowmuchisaboutthatimpactnextquarterwhentheFedaccountsbecomeoperational.Buttogiveyouanidea,about20%ofour$138billionincollateralishouseaccountrelated.MaybeKimcouldcommentontheFedaccount.
PhupinderGill(CEO):
Thecashcomponentofthat20%islower,thatisthepartthatwe[can],Ithink,Kim,itis$3billion?
KimT aylor (President,GlobalOperations,Technology&Risk):
Currentlythecashbalancesonthehousepositionsis$3billion.Thatisnotanumberthatwecontrol,itisanumberthattheclearingmemberscontrolwiththedecisionsthattheymakeaboutwhattheypostformargin.Butobviouslythereturnthattheygetonthefundsthattheypostwithusispartofthatdecision.
PhupinderGill(CEO):
Anditisahigherreturnforourclientbaseandoneoftheexcitingthingsabouthavingthisaccountforus.
KimT aylor (President,GlobalOperations,Technology&Risk):
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Andthenyouaskedaboutthecustomeraccounts.Thoseareauthorized.Thatprocessisunderwaybetweentheregulators.Thatisnotsomethingthatwecanreallycommentonthetimingofbutweknowthatitisstillbeingworkedon.
Operator :
MikeCarrier,BankofAmerica.
SameerMurukutla(Analyst-BoAMerrillLynch):
Goodmorning.ThisisactuallySameerMurukutlaonforMikecarrier.Thanksfortakingmyquestion.Goodmorning.IamgoingtojustleverageoffofDan'squestionabit.CanyouprovideanupdateonyourthoughtsintothelevelofyourstakeinBM&FgiventheircurrentM&Athattheyareinvolvedin?AndanycommentsonthepossibleinterestintheIndianCommodityExchange?Thanks.
JohnPietrowicz (CFO):
Sure,thisisJohn.BVMFisoneofourmostimportantinternationalstrategicrelationshipsregardlessofanyownershipstakes.Wecontinuetoholdabouta4%stakeinBVMF,thevalueofwhichhasincreasedover$150millionsincetheendof2015andwewillcontinuetoworkwiththemaswehavehistorically.
IntermsoftheIndianExchange,wearenotgoingtocommentonanyoftherumorsorM&Aactivitythere.
SameerMurukutla(Analyst-BoAMerrillLynch):
Okay,thanksfortakingmyquestion.
Operator :
AlexKramm,UBS
AlexKramm(Analyst-UBS):
Goodmorning.Wantedtojusttouchontheenergybusinessforasecondhere.ClearlyoneofthemoreimpressiveareasintermsofgrowthbutoneofthethingsthathasalwaysbeenorthathasbeenstandingoutisthatyouareoutperformingatleastintermsofADV,yourprimarycompetitor.Sowouldloveforyoutotalkalittlebitaboutwhatisgoingonthere.AndobviouslyyouallhavedifferentproductmixsomaybeifyoucandrillalittlebitdeepernotjustaboutbrandsbutalsoaboutWTI,naturalgas,gasoil,otherareaswhereyouarecompetingmoreorlessdirectly,whereyouarewinningandwhyyouarewinningifyouarewinning?
DerekSammann (SeniorManagingDirector,Commodities&OptionsProducts):
Yes,itisDerekhere.Iwouldsayweareabsolutelypleasedbutnottotallysatisfiedwiththegrowththatwecontinuetoimpacthereontheenergiesbusiness.ImeanwehavenotonlyhavewegrowntorecordlevelsinQ1,wehaveincreasedourlargeopeninterestholdersandithasbeenprettystronggrowth.WetalkedlastquarteraboutthebenefitsoftheoverallbroadmarketadoptionincreasinglytowardsWTIwiththeresultoftheliftingoftheexportbanintheUS.Thathasactuallysignificantlyincreasedparticipationinourmarketsonthefuturesaswellastheoptionside.
Butintermsofwherewe'regoingoutsideofthatoptionshasbeenasignificantareaofgrowthforusinsidetheenergiesbusinessandIwouldactuallyalsodirectyoutosomeofthecommentsthatGillmadeinhispreparedremarksaroundwhereandhowweareglobalizingourfootprintrightnow.
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Ifyoulookatwherethegrowthofourbusinessiscomingfrom,ourEMEAbusinessforenergybusinessupabout40%.Thatisoutperformingthebusinessasawhole.Whatisreallyexcitingistheinvestmentsthatwehavemadeinbootsontheground,salescampaignsandproductsalesinAsiaforusisbearingsignificantfruit.OurAsianenergybusinessisup82%yearonyearandthatissignificantgrowthinalmosteverymajortradingcenter.
IwasinShanghaiandSingaporelastweekmeetingwithalotofourclientsandwecontinuetobeabletoattractthemwithourfunctionalitybothonthefuturesaswellastheoptionsideandthebroadbaseofparticipationinourmarkets.
SowetellalotoftheWTIstory,thereisanaturalgasstory,thereisagasolinestory.Wesetanall-timerecordinourgasolinefuturesaswellsoitisbroad-basedgrowth,itisglobalgrowthanditisacrossourassetclassinthepresenceofbuildingOIandlargeopeninterestholders.
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IwouldjustaddtothatspecificallyontheinternationalsidewithinAsiaforexample,weareseeinggrowthcomingfromeachofourclientsegmentsintheenergyquadrant,propsareup31%.Banksinterestinglyenoughwereup104%,hedgefunds96%,corporatefirmscomingin88%,retail85%.WeareseeingsimilaractivitiescomingoutofEuropesoforexampleonthehedgefundandintheassetmanagementcommunity,26%growthspecificallyintheenergyquadrant.Soitgoestooursalespenetrationandeffortsinthatregardintermsofhowwearetargetingourfocusandourcampaignsintheseareas.
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AlexBlostein,GoldmanSachs.
AlexBlostein (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Thanks.Goodmorning.Justaquickfollow-uponmarketdata,Idon'tthinkitwasaskedyet,butthe4%to5%guidancefortheyearthatyouguysprovidedonthelastearningscall,doesthatstillholdorjustkindofgivensomeoftheheadwindsthatyouhighlightedontheheadcountreductions,shouldwethinkaboutaslowernumber,alowernumberfortheyear?
JohnPietrowicz (CFO):
Whenweprovidedguidancelastyear,weprovidedarangebecauseitisverydifficulttopredict.Wehadgivenguidanceasa4%to5%growthrate.Wecameinthisquarterup4.5%fromQ1lastyearwhichisinlinewithourguidance.Weareseeingpressureascustomersmovetoourfullpricedofferingaswellasadeclineinscreencountsasbankslayoffstaffasyouhaveprobablyheardfromthebanksearningscalls.Soweareveryfocusedandworkinghardonourdatabusinessbutweareseeingsomeheadwindsasyouindicated.
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BrianBedell,DeutscheBank
BrianBedell(Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Goodmorning,folks.JusttopileonontheAsiaquestion,thanksforallthedisclosureonthat.Thatwasagooddiscussionyoujusthadaboutsomeoftheprogressthere.ButIguessifyoucanthinkaboutortrytohighlighthowbigyouthinkthismarketcaneventuallybeforCMEintermsofpenetrationrates?Obviouslythegrowthrecentlyhasbeenespeciallystrong.ButdoyouseethisasjustanADVperspective
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beingabletobecomeaslargeasEuropelet'ssayinthenexttwoorthreeyears?Canyoutalkaboutsomeofthatpenetrationopportunity?Andthenalsorelatedto,John,Ithinkyoucitedmoreprojectsingrowthinitiativespendlaterintheyear.Ispartofthatincludedinthatspendinglevel?
PhupinderGill(CEO):
Brian,thisisGill.IamgoingtostartandIamgoingtoaskBriantobasicallyexpandmoreastowhereweareseeinggrowthspecifically.Ifyoulookattheproductopportunityset,ifyoulookattheopportunityintermsoftheproductthatwehaveacrossalloftheassetclassesthatwehave,wehavehighlyrelevantproductsforallofourclientsinallplacesaroundtheworld.WithinAsiaspecifically,wehavebeenfocusedoverthelastfewyearsonChinabutwhatwehavenottalkedaboutisthesaleseffortthatBrianwillgoalittlebitintootherpartsofAsiawhichIwouldsayaremoredevelopedintermsoftheeducationsideofthings.Koreacomestomind.
China,wehavegivenyousomenumbersthisquarterspecifictoChina.TheseareaccountsthatarebasedinChinabuttheymightbetrading,theyprobablywillbetradingfromoutsideofChina.AsChinacontinuestoexpanditspoliciesforaccess,youwouldseethatnumbergrow.Thetimingbehindthatremainstobeseen.Butaswesitherenow,Chinaisallowingandhasallowedtheirintermediariesaswellastheirdirectaccountssuchasthehedgefunds,thepropshopsandthecommercialentitiestoestablishoperationsoutsideofChinaandthatisthefloorthatweareseeing.
Indiaisanuntappedopportunityatthistime.ThereareverysignificantchangesafootinIndiathatwillalsolendthemselvesandtranslateintoopportunitiesforus.
SowiththatbroadviewaboutChinaandI'monlytalkingupoutareasinwhichwewillseethehighestimpact,IamgoingtoturnitovertoBryantotalkaboutsomeofthevolumeflowsthatweareseeingthataredrivingthehighrateofgrowththere.
BryanDurkin (CCO):
SowithrespecttotheeffortsinGreaterChinaandHongKongandspecificallyHongKong,weareseeingrevenuesareupabout51%,56%growthinourvolumethatisbeingdrivenfromenergyequitiesaswellassomeofourinterest-rateproducts.Withinthesegments,thegrowthisreallycomingfromprops,agrowingnumberofprivatehedgefundsandassetmanagershavealsoevolved.Weareworkingverycloselywithourintermediariestohelpbringthatbusinessintoourmarkets.Weareseeingsomegoodtractionintermsofliberalizationofthecentralstateownedenterprises.
Forexample,SOEswerepermissionedupuntilabouttwoyearsago,31.Nowitisabout112areinthatareasoweareseeingthatasadditionalopportunity.
Sovereignwealthfundsandassetmanagersareincreasinglygrowingtheirbusinesswithusandagain,wearefocusinginthatareaandreallybuildingonopportunitiestoworkwithcorporatesparticularlyinsurancecompanies.WeseemoreChinesebanksthatareinquiringabouttradingourproductsandalsolookingtobuildtheireffortsinquiringaboutOTCclearingwithuswhichisaverygoodsign.
WithinTaiwan,year-to-datevolumeinrevenuewasupabout40%and36%respectively.ThemaindriversinthoseareaswereequitiesFX,energyandinterestrates.Themainparticipantsarebanks,assetmanagersandagain,weareseeingsomegoodopportunitieswithinsurancecompanies.
TherehasbeensomeprogresswithinTaiwanintermsofallowingsecuritiesfirmstoofferglobalfuturessoweareworkingverycloselywithourintermediariestobringthatbusinessintoourgroup.
WithinJapan,wehaveseenconsistentgrowthofabout7%.Revenueswereupabout32%.YouhavetokeepinmindJapanisthesecondbiggestholderofUSdebtsothereisgreatopportunitiesthere.Main
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drivershavebeenfrombanksandweareseeingsomenicegrowthcomingfromassetmanagers.
GillalludedtoKorea.WecontinuetoseeverynicegrowthcomingoutofKorea.ItwastwoyearsagothattherewerenoKoreanFCMsthathadanaveragemonthlyvolumeofabout100,000contracts.Todaywearehappytosaythatwehaveeightfirmsthatareprovidingatleast100,000sitespermonthwhichisagreatprogressandthedriversinthatareaareequities,rates,foreigncurrencyandenergy.
Singapore,itisupabout18%comingoutofthatregion.Weareseeingsomenicegrowthcomingfromthebanksinparticularaswellasproprietaryfirmsandcorporatesandcommercials.
AnotherareathatweareveryexcitedaboutisAustralia.Wereallyhaven'tmentionedthat.OurvolumethisyearinAustraliaisup12%andourrevenuesareupIthinkapproximately50%ifmymemoryservesmecorrectly.Thetopthreeproductsareinterestratesandequitiesandagsareupabout27%,foreigncurrenciesareupabout39%.OurmainfocusinworkingwithAustraliaagainiswithintheassetmanagementcommunityhedgefundsandthebanks.
Operator :
ChrisHarris,WellsFargo.
ChrisHarris (Analyst-WellsFargoSecurities):
Aquestiononyourmargins.Imeanagreatmarginquarter,65%,ImeanIthinkthatisoneofthebestresultsyouguyshaveeverhad.Ifwethinkbiggerpictureandyouguyskeepdeliveringdouble-digitvolumegrowthand90%incrementalmargin,yourmarginisgoingtomoveupfastinahurry.Sojustwonderingistherealimitwhereyouguysarereallycomfortableabouttakingthemargintobeforewestartseeingafairlysizableincreaseintheexpensesoristhatreallynothingforustobefocusedonatthispointintime?
JohnPietrowicz (CFO):
Thanks,thisisJohn.Yes,wewerelimitedby100%isourlimit.Butno,inallseriousness,wecontinuetorunthebusinessasefficientlyaspossible.Asyoucanseefromtheamountofvolumewehavebeenabletohandlewithoutanyissues,wehavebeenabletohandlethatthisquarterwithoutanyincident.SoIthinkforuswedohavenaturalincreasestoourcostsovertimeandthatwouldbeinflationarythings,salaries,wagesandthelike.
Butweprovideatremendousamountofvaluetoourclientsandsoasmoreliquiditycomesintothemarketplace,thereismoretradingthatoccurswhichisatremendousbenefittoourbusinessandtheamountofvolumethatweareabletohandlewe'vebeenprovenouttohavebeenabletohandlethat.
Otherthingsthatimpactthemarginisalsothelicensefeeswepayonequitycontractsprimarilysothereissomesharethatimpactskindofourmarginlevel.Butthereisnothingartificialouttherethatpreventsthatfromgoinghigher.
PhupinderGill(CEO):
ThisisGill.IfIcouldjustaddtowhatJohnsaid.Johnisspotonwithrespecttothecurrentoperatingstructurethatwehaveandproductsaswecontinuetoinnovateacrosstheassetclasses.Butaswerolloutnewandinnovativeproductsorservicesinresponsetowhatourclients'needsareandinconjunctionwiththecapitalefficiencygoalthatwehaveforourclients,therepoclearingservicesisonesuchthingandthatisaseparateinfrastructurefromwhatwecurrentlyhave.
Johnhasfinetunedthecurrentinfrastructuretohumlikeyouareseeingitnowandwithinthatconstruct,
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theoperatingmargincanabsolutelygrow.Butasyouintroducemorethingsforourclientbase,youmayseeaslightreductiondependinguponthesuccessoftheproductsandservicesthatwerollout.
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KenHill,Barclays.
KenHill(Analyst-BarclaysCapital):
Goodmorning,everyone.IjustwantedtofollowuponthemarketdataspecificallythosecustomerswhoarerationalizingtheirbehaviorandIguesschoosingtoturnthatserviceoff.Arethoseguyswhomaybedidn'tneedittobeginwithandjustrealizedthatwerepayingforitordidthisactuallyjustgettobetoohighapriceforthemtopay?
AndIguessifitisthatlatterpart,isthereanyflexibilitywithintheservicetoreallytailormarketdataforwhatacustomerneedsovertime?Potentiallycouldyouberollingoutnewproductsthatmightmeetsomeofthesepeople'sneedtohavegoneawayrecently?
PhupinderGill(CEO):
ThisisGill.IthinkasJohnalludedtoinhisremarksandinresponsetooneofthequestions,alargechunkofthatiscomingfromthelayoutthatweseethatthebanksareundergoingwithrespecttopricingpressure,itbeingtoohigh.Ifyoucompareourmarketdatafeestotheexchangesthatwecompeteagainst,youwillseethatwearelaggingbehindthemintermsofpricesowedon'tthinkthatistheissue.Wethinkitisfirmsrationalizingtheirneedsovertime.Bryan,youmightwanttoadd.
BryanDurkin (CCO):
Youcertainlyhitit.Asthefullfarecameintoplay,wedidexpectthattheremightbesomedropofffromindividualsthatmaybeusingaparticularscreenandnotreallyutilizeitfortradingquitefranklybutforobservingthemarkets.Thoselevelofusershavebeenprettysmall.ImeanthebiggestimpactasGillhadreferenceistherationalizationthatweareseeingfromfirmsthathavebeenconsolidatingtheiroperationsandmakingthosedecisionswiththerespectivereductioninstaffingandlayoffs.
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KyleVoigt,KBW.
KyleVoigt (Analyst-Keefe,Bruyette&Woods):
Thanksfortakingmyquestion.SoIwasjustwonderingifyoucouldcommentoncompetitorenergyplatform,NFX.Itlooksliketheywillbeginchargingforsomefeefortradingwiththephaseinperiodstartingnextmonth.Doyoubelievethemomentumthattheyhavehadinbuildingopeninteresttomarketshareissustainableaftertheybegintochargefortrading?Areyouhearinganyfeedbackorpressurefromyourclientsregardingthembeingunhappywithtradingfeesorotherservices?Thanks.
DerekSammann (SeniorManagingDirector,Commodities&OptionsProducts):
ThisisDerek.Thanksforyourquestion.Whenwelookatthestatusofwhereournaturalgasbusinessis,ifyoulookatthesixmonthspriortoNFXlaunches,wewereaveraginginnaturalgasoptionswheretheyaremakingtheirhardpushrightnowabout70,000contractsaday.Ifyoulookatthelastsixmonths,ourADViscloseto100,000contractssowehavegrownthatbusiness40%overthecourseoftimethatNFXhascomeintothemarketandtotheextentthatwe'vegotthefastest-growingpartofthatnaturalgasoptionsbusinessforusistheelectronicnatureofthatbusiness,arecord25%ofournaturalgasbusinesshastradedelectronically.Theyaredrivingthat40%growth.
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IfyoulookatwhatNFXisputtingup,itisablockbusiness,itisnotelectronicanditisonlyonthefinanciallysettledside.Sogiventhefactthatwehaveadded30,000contractsADVsincepre-launchofNFXtopost-launchandtheyaredoing12,000to15,000,wearenotseeinganyrealfeedbackfromcustomersaskingustodoanythingdifferentotherthancontinuetoscaleourinfrastructureelectronicallyandgrowthebusiness.
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RobRutschow,CLSA.
RobRutschow(Analyst-CLSALimited):
Goodmorning.Justonemorefollow-uponthemarketdataquestion.Areyouabletosizethebankindustryintermsoftheoverallscreencount?Doesitlookssimilartothecontributiontotradingvolumes?
Andthenseparately,doesopeninganaccountattheFedgiveyouanysortoflong-termgrowthopportunitiesasidefromjustpickinguptheextraspreadthatthatprovides?Thanks.
BryanDurkin (CCO):
ItisBryan.Onthemarketdataside,yes,weareabletosizeacrosstheuserbasetheprofileofuser.Andwhilewesawadowntrendthispastquarterspecificallywithinthebanksector,Ican'tcommentwhetherornotwearegoingtoseeacontinuedtrendgoinginthatdirection.WhatIcansayisthatwearecloselymonitoringourperformanceandhaveeveryexpectationtocontinuemakingthegoodprogresswehavewithmarketdata.
PhupinderGill(CEO):
TheopeningoftheFedaccountalsogivesbothourcustomersaswellasusadditionalopportunity.
SeanT ully(SeniorManagingDirector,Financial&OTC):
Ontheheadcountsinparticularforourcustomers,itdoesallowwastoofferthemtheysignificantlyincreasedreturnontheircash.Soitshouldmakeusamorevaluablepropositionforthem.
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RichardRepetto,SandlerO 'Neill.
RichardRepetto (Analyst-SandlerO 'Neill&Partners):
Thanksforthefollow-up.Gill,onthepresentationyoutalkedabout--andthisispage16--theseculardriversofgrowthanditbeingthepotentialformorefuturesandoptionsvolumesduetocapitalefficiencies.AndIwaswonderingcanyougiveusanupdateoncrossmargining,Ithinkitwas$3billionorso?AndIguesswhatyourexpectationshereandnothavingthedealervolumeinoverthecounterinterest-rateswaps,whatdoyouthinkaboutthepotentialthereofcrossmargining?
PhupinderGill(CEO):
IwillstartandIwillaskKimaddhere.Thecapitalefficiencytitlehasatleasttwoorthreethingsbeneaththatthatmightbehelpfulforyoutothinkabout.Iwouldsayintermsoftheopportunitytobeefficientforourclientbasefuturizationisatthetopofthatlist.Sodevelopingproductsinhousethatourcustomerscanuseonamorecapitalefficientbasisisoneofthethingsthatwehavebeendoingandwillcontinuetoactuallydo.
Ifyoulookatthecompressionservicesthatweimplementednottoolongagouptothispointintime,you
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havehad$21trillioninnotionalvaluethathavebeencompressedovertime.AndasyoulookattheperformanceoftheseOTCmarketitself,ithastakenanuptickfromthefourthquarteroflastyear.
Nowthisvalueproposition,thisgroupofvaluepropositionsthatIjustdescribednooneelsecanprovidethat,thecompressioninconjunctionwiththecrossmarginingandinconjunctionwiththefuturizationopportunity.SoIthinkfromthatperspective,wearequiteexcitedastheinterestrateenvironmentcontinuestoshift.
KimT aylor (President,GlobalOperations,Technology&Risk):
AndthenIwouldjustaddIthinkthisisnotsomethingthatisexclusivetoCMEbutCMEisworkingwiththeindustrytotryandgetbetterrecognitionforcustomermargininthetreatmentofcapitalatthebanklevel.Thatwillbeaverysignificantelementinreducingthecostofdoingbusiness.
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AlexKramm,UBS.
AlexKramm(Analyst-UBS):
Helloagainforfollow-up.Iwanttogoovertoyourequitiesbusinessforaminute.Onthatslidethatyouhadonequities,Ithinkitispage10,youmentionedthatontheS&P500optionsIguessoptionsonfuturesyounowhave--yourmarketshareincreasedrelativetoCBOE.Idon'tthinkyouhavetalkedaboutthatbusinessonacompetitivebasisinthepastorinthoseterms.Sojustwonderingifthisisanactivefocusofyourstokindoflookatthatmarketandcompetemoreaggressivelyandmaybequoteawaytheuserbasefromthesecurities-basedoptionstothefuturesmarket.Soanycolortherewillbeinteresting.Thanks.
Unidentif iedCompanyRepresentative :
Sowearealwaysfocusedontheclientsandthevaluethatwehadtoclientsandthereforewearealsoalwaysfocusedonmarketshare.Soineachandeveryoneofourbusinesses,wearecontinuouslyfocusedonourdirectcompetitorsbutalsosubstituteproductsandmakingsurethatweaddthemostvalue.
Sowhilewemaynothavetalkedaboutthisasactivelybefore,thisiscertainlysomethingthatwelookatveryclosely.Inparticularifyoulookatthatbusiness,weareveryfocusedontheabilitytocrossmarginobviouslyunderlyingfuturesagainsttheoptionsasmostefficientplatformpossible.WearecontinuouslyfocusedonTCAortotalcostanalysis.We'vetalkedaboutthisacrosseachofourdifferentbusinesslines.Ifyourecallatthebeginningoflastyear,GreenwichAssociatesdidabigstudythatlookedatourinterest-ratefuturesasalwaysbeingthelowestcostrelativetotheinterest-rateswapsindustryintermsofrepresentingrisk.
Similarlywehavecomeoutlastyearwithsomethingcalledthebigpictureandthenwedidanupdatethisyearagainwiththebigpicture.Butweareshowingthatasanexample,ourequityfuturesfarmoreefficientforinvestorsforgivingexposuretotheequitymarketthanETFs.Sowearecontinuingtolookatthesubstituteproductsbothfromacustomerclientvaluepropositionbutalsofromamarketshareperspective.
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PatrickO'Shaughnessy,RaymondJames.
PatrickO'Shaughnessy(Analyst-RaymondJames&Associates):
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Sospeakingofportfoliomargining,wonderingifyoucancommentontheLSEDeutscheBoerseplannedmergerandwhethersomeofthecapitalefficienciesthattheyareproposingwouldimpactyouguyscompetitivelyIthinkspecificallywithregardtoyourrateclearingbusiness,yourrateswapclearingbusiness?
PhupinderGill(CEO):
Patrick,thisisGill.Ithinkonthefirstpartofyourquestionyoushouldaskthem.Theyseemwillingtotalkabouttheopportunities.
Onthesecondpartofthequestion,IhavetogobacktowhatSeanhadsaidbefore.Focusonthecompetitivedynamicsofwhatwealldohere.AndsowebelievethatasIsaid,wehavethebestvaluepropositionforourclientbaseandweintendtogrowuponthat.
Operator :
Wehavenofurtherquestionsatthistime.Iwouldliketoturntheprogrambacktomanagementforclosingremarks.
PhupinderGill(CEO):
Thankyousomuchforjoiningusthismorningandwelookforwardtotalkingtoyouinthenextquarter.Bye-bye.
Operator :
Andthatdoesconcludetoday'sprogram.Youmaydisconnectatthistime.Thankyouandhaveagreatday.
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