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    Clarion aux input

    If your car was manufactured in the late 90s or later and has a Clarion or McIntosh OEM stereo (mJapanese imports do), this project may allow you to add a proper auxiliary input for your iPod, laptor anything else.

    Eligible head units should have both a round 13-pin DIN socket and square 13-pin CeNet socket on

    rear panel of the head unit, similar to that shown on the photo below. You will need to remove yourhead unit to check this. There is a list of models I have tried this with at thebottom of the page.

    (http://nzlamb.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/rear_panel_connectors.jpg)

    Rear panel connectors

    Head units only featuring the round 13-pin DIN socket may not work as they probably use the oldC-Bus protocol instead of the more modern CeNet. Im not sure what the exact purpose of theconnector on CeNet units is, however its certainly useful for this project!

    Equipment

    13-pin DIN plug3.5mm stereo plug or similarToggle or latching on/off push switchTwin-core shielded audio cable

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    What to do

    Solder the connections to the 13-pin DIN plug as shown in the diagram below.

    (http://nzlamb.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/mcintosh_aux_input.png)

    Connect it to the back of your stereo. Power on the stereo and flip the switch. When it is on the headunit should display ACCS.

    (http://nzlamb.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/front_panel_accs.jpg)

    Connect the audio plug into a suitable source (e.g. your iPod) and you should hear it playing throug

    the stereo.

    One quirk with this design is that the head unit will stay in accessory mode even if you try to changfunction (CD, radio, etc.) or power it off until you turn off the aux switch. Turning off the ignition wstill turn the stereo off in accessory mode.

    You may wish to mount the auxiliary switch somewhere convenient on the dashboard. Many carsseem to have blank panels where optional features were not fitted; drilling into these saves damaginyour dash and looks a little tidier.

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    List of stereo models tested

    Compatible

    Most OEM stereos fitted to MY98-MY03 Subaru LegacyClarion PF-1572IClarion PF-2143IMcIntosh PF-2142I

    Incompatible

    McIntosh MD players

    If this mod works for you, please post a comment with the stereo model number to help build a listcompatible with this mod!

    Update: Removed resistor from circuit as it is not necessary in practice.

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    Gannon says:16 March 2011 at 23:28Hi

    Im keen to undertake this but i found conflicting information on another website.

    http://www.instructables.com/id/Add-an-Aux-In-jack-for-Clarion-Stereo-Head-Unit-I/step2/Identifying-the-inputs/

    You said you tested this on several clarion models, including the Clarion PF-2143I? This is themodel fitted to my 2001 Outback.

    Do you have the service manual for these units

    Im also going to use a 13pin din plug, but is your pinout looking at the back of the unit, or the frof the plug?

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    Many thanks

    Replynzlamb says:17 March 2011 at 06:41It definitely works. I think whoever wrote the instructable article has been mislead by the C-bpinout they found. In the case of these Subaru stereos it is not C-bus even though the connec

    is the same.

    The pout is looking at the back of the stereo, which is the same when working on the solder sof the plug.

    ReplyGannon says:18 March 2011 at 22:32Thanks mate

    I have it half soldered up, i just need to wire in the resistor and switch and i will post up spictures if you like.

    Gannon says:21 August 2011 at 11:40Hey

    I just thought Id add that my brother in law has a 2001 B4 that has the McIntosh head uand it does not have the round 13pin plug, only the square one, which is normally for thestacker, which he doesnt have.

    Is it possible to get a square Clarion plug and use it the same way?

    nzlamb says:21 August 2011 at 15:06He must have the MiniDisc version and unfortunately this doesnt work on it. The best yocan do is get an aftermarket unit like the AnyCar or swap the head unit for a tape one.

    chris says:3 September 2013 at 06:46Hello, I have a Clarion DRX6175 head unit, year was 1995. At the rear of the unit there is a 1pin round Aux input which is for a CD changer. Theres also 4 x audio RCA input jacks availaand are unused for front and rear audio inputs. I want to connect my iPod Classic to this heaunit. I have connected the iPod with a Y adapter cable running from ipod headphone jack toRCA inputs of head unit and the sound quality is poor or it sounds tinny tweeter, metalicsound and this is undesirable. The better way would be through the 13 pin Aux input. Can I anyone out there to create a cable for me ? I can pay you. I would welcome your advice. Chr

    ReplyGannon says:

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    20 March 2011 at 15:05Whoo hooo! I got it working, but i need to find a 1k resistor, im using a resistor substitution wheat the moment .

    Just one question why does it need the 1k resistor?Will it damage something if i connect it straight to the switch?

    Replynzlamb says:20 March 2011 at 17:18You dont actually need the resistor, I was just being cautious at the time.

    ReplyGannon says:20 March 2011 at 19:18Finishedhttps://reader004.{domain}/reader004/html5/0413/5ad048418e892/5ad0484c37aef.jpg

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    I also found this in Russan, but i cant translate it http://www.subarudriver.ru/thread-2195243.hthttp://www.secam.ru/rus/e107_files/public/983_.jpgIt appears to be a factory in dash GPS and video player, and im guessing its the reason for this CNet plug on the back of the headunit.

    Replynzlamb says:

    20 March 2011 at 19:42Sure is, they are very common in NZ too. That TV tuner has its own aux input under the seaThe CeNET port can also be used for CD changers and iPod adapters on these stereos.

    ReplyGannon says:20 March 2011 at 20:09The square C-Net port is being used by the 6 stacker under the seat in my Outbackpremium.It would be really cool if i also had the phone port like in your other blog

    amir911 says:15 July 2011 at 04:30hi nzlamb please help me i have clarion head unit with ce net .can i connect aux?

    Replynzlamb says:15 July 2011 at 10:17In a word, no, although its possible to use an intermediary device like a CD changer or EA12with an iPod, make a blank audio track and solder a cable to the audio input.

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    ReplyMark says:27 January 2012 at 22:20Hi I have a squre plug on my rear clarion only. I recently purchased a 6 stacker and it haround plugs both ends . Can you buy round to square leads if so where . Also I have 4 RC

    jacks and was wondering if I could run two into one for my I pod. I also have a top mounDVD player currently hooked up. Works on aux only

    nzlamb says:27 January 2012 at 22:41Unfortunately C-Bus (round connector) and CeNET (square connector) devices are totallincompatible and Im not aware of any adapters out there.

    Im not sure about the RCA jacks though, are you able to describe this in more detail?

    Regarding the DVD player I assume this is the Subaru OEM DVD/GPS/VICS unit? Sounlike it anyway; the MD head unit came with a DVD version of the satnav (MY01-03); the

    older tape one had a CD-based satnav unit (MY98-00). If you do have this unit you can fan aux input into the factory TV tuner under the drivers seat. Use the external video inpuhas a proprietary connector but you can solder the left and right inputs directly onto the

    board. You then need to set up the satnav unit to VTR mode rather than TV; press the mbutton (under OFF) on the left hand side to change to TV. After that one of the buttons othe left displays a menu where you navigate to the last option using the joystick and seleVTR.

    I originally did this in my car and it worked great. The only drawback is that the TV modcant be selected while driving; the car has to be stationary. The park brake trick doesnt

    work here either as the satnav unit gets the vehicle speed data from both GPS and the TC(transmission computer).

    Jesus says:11 November 2011 at 15:06This website http://www.venturemp3.com sell an interface working with Clarion C-Bus 13 pins.Have a USB and SD card input. Hooked up to cd changer input, works as cd changer.You can install in Subaru. Plays fine

    Reply

    Rod P says:11 February 2012 at 16:00Thanks for this excellent write-up. It works perfectly on my 2000 model Liberty, with a clarion P2353I head unit. Im thinking of changing the input method to a SPDT 3.5mm switched socket,that it switches to ACCS when I plug it in.

    ReplyMichael says:4 March 2012 at 17:31

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    Hey RodP,Could you share how you intend to wire the SPDT 3.5mm socket and a link to where someomight get one?

    Im new to this stuff but had thought those 5 pin 3.5 mm jacks were normally closed andbecame open on plug insertion which is the opposite of what is needed here??

    Michael

    ReplyRodP says:8 March 2012 at 23:06Hi Michael,

    You are correct in that most 3.5mm switched sockets usually have normally closedcontacts, which open to mute the sound to the speakers (Im guessing). This is known assingle throw switching. A single pole, single throw switch would be described as SPST. Igoing to use a double throw switched socket, where the contacts open one set and closeanother, and these contacts will take the place of the switch between pins 6 and 9. I amsomewhat short of time at the moment so Ill keep you posted. just Google 3.5mm SPDT 3.5mm DPDT and you should get some hits. Ill be buying my socket from WagnerElectronics in Ashfield, Sydney.

    Gannon says:25 May 2012 at 22:16Hey Im back.I just bought an original Sanyo F-2757A radio for my 1985 Subaru Leone RX and it also has a

    13pin round DIN socket on the back.http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8094/file0035p.jpghttp://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5185/file0036r.jpg

    Im gonna take it apart and see what pins go where. Imagine if I can hook my MP3 player and aswitch and use it like the Clarion one.

    ReplyGannon says:25 May 2012 at 22:36

    Pins 2,4,5,6,8,9,10 and 13 are soldered down, with 2 and 4 heading in the same direction andpassing identical components, so possibly the L and R signal. I wonder what would happen if Iplugged in my aux cable?

    ReplyIvo says:10 July 2012 at 23:33Is that going to work on Clarion PU-9990A made for Peugeot ? It is from late 1997, and the 13 Pconnector looks the same.

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    Replymukesh meena says:28 July 2012 at 22:28kenwood dpx6020 audio input wire

    ReplyRajeev says:

    20 September 2012 at 06:04i have ADDZEST dmx960z dual din car stereo wrth Ce Net 13 square pin , can anyone tel me hocan i give input for this ,, pls help me ,, [email protected]

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    David says:

    8 May 2013 at 23:16Hi nzlamb. I have a Subaru bh legacy with the satnav display. The car has an aftermarket Sonyhead unit.

    I really want to get rid of the blue screen and have it show the continuous HVAC info. Any idhow I can do this?

    Replynzlamb says:8 May 2013 at 23:23

    First make sure it has the CD or DVD in it (press the little recessed button on the left hand sidand the display will slide out slightly). That said, Im pretty sure those units need the CeNETconnected in order to operate at all. So with that the best I can suggest is either replace the hunit with a factory one or rip out the satnav altogether and replace it with the regular HVACunit. The latter is a big job but Ive done it myself and posted the details on the Club Subforums.

    ReplyDavid cassidy says:9 May 2013 at 14:09

    Thanks mate, unfortunately I dont have the DVD either. So even with that, it requires aheadunit with cenet to operate?

    nzlamb says:9 May 2013 at 18:19Yes I just fired one up that Ive got on the bench and it definitely needs a CeNET head unto do anything. Without that it just displays a warning on the screen. Normally the butto

    just below the OFF button changes mode between map, HVAC and TV.

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    16 June 2013 at 21:45Hi, thanks for the great tips. Will this work on the Clarion PF 23531 on 02 Ltd OBW? this is thdouble DIN Clarion, CD and Cassette. I think its a called a Type C stereo in the manual. There isphoto here http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/42-australia-new-zealand/34577-cassette-plaoutback-2000-a-2.html

    This must have a square shaped CeNet plug, because it is already in use, connected to a Clarion

    6CD changer under the passenger seat.

    Also, will this adaptor cable on Ebay work for the Ipod? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ECLIPSEPIN-DIN-TO-AUX-CABLE-CORD-FOR-MP3-iPC-106-iPOD-IPOD-IPHONE-/130758389885?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e71ceb07d

    Replynzlamb says:17 June 2013 at 12:51Yes it works great with those particular Clarion units, provided it has the round socket on th

    back. I originally tested this on a JDM version (PF-2143I) of the same stereo. Also note Rod Pcomment above hes confirmed it works with your exact model.

    ReplyTom says:19 June 2013 at 00:26Thanks, but do you have any thoughts on that cable? Im just hoping to only disassemblmy dash once, so Id like to have everything ready before I start.

    nzlamb says:

    19 June 2013 at 08:35I honestly dont think that one will work. It would be risky unless you had a spare unit toit on first so I dont recommend it in this case.

    Tom says:4 August 2013 at 20:24hi, so I took the radio apart today and found that after all that work I didnt have the round sockonly the square one that my 6 Stacker plugs into. I have a Clarion PF 23531 on 02 Ltd OBW, sperhaps not all models come with the same plug configuration.

    Incidently, while I was having a look I saw another plug on the opposite end of the rear of the stthat was also round but was already occurpied by some thick black wires is this the aerial?

    ReplyPaul says:11 September 2013 at 19:16very niceclean audiodid the sub gain already so now dont need to upgrade car stereo jacin iphone 3 g good stuff nzlambdidnt have 13 pin plug so I soldered wires directly to boardthanks alot man!

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    Replymiura says:14 October 2013 at 15:20Hi, nzlamb. From Japan, thank you for the best tips to add AUX for a stereo installed my oldforester. It works perfectly although the unit has 8pin and 13pin DIN socket, a bit different. Ispotted a possibility of hacking 13pin DIN you show here and tried the same pin assignment. NIm very satisfied with the wonderful result that I can plug and play my retired iphone stuff with

    drawback in audio quality without buying a new model.http://www.geocities.jp/p2pnext/86201SA010.jpghttp://www.geocities.jp/p2pnext/86201SA010_accs.jpghttp://www.geocities.jp/p2pnext/86201SA010_aux_13pinDIN.jpg

    The model unit is a genuine subaru stereo, 86201SA010, FM/AM CD player made in Japan abouten years ago, but the real manufacture is unknown. I bet it might be made by Clarion affiliatedgroup. Im not sure if you have seen it before in the South. I report you the fact to share with oth

    just in case when you see the model in Japanese import cars.

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    ReplySimon says:9 November 2013 at 11:29Hi

    I have the Clarion PF-2169I which has the 13 pin plug for the CD changer. So I built the cable asdesigned but unfortunately I cooked my head unit!! Not to sure where I went wrong. Anysuggestions?

    Replyedwin osamong says:5 January 2014 at 11:01Hi, I have a clarion OEM unit PN-4048L. It has tv tuner and navigation and I was looking forwhere to connect AUX IN.( has a button labeled TV/AUX) I took it out and found an 8 pin squa

    white connector with pin outs labeled on the board : A-BUS R+, A-BUS R-, A-BUS L+, A-BUS LAudio Ground, M-CAN +, M-CAN -. Can this A-BUS terminals act as AUX in or they carry aud

    bus digital traffic? model of tv-tuner in the boot is cy-tn0402a(has a similar connector but is not use). Your help will be much appreciated.

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