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    Over the last few years

    my firm, Dezan Shira

    & Associates, has been

    i n v o l v e d i n C h i n a

    a n d I n d i a a n d w e

    have commented many times on the

    relationship between them. I personally

    have been involved in the bilateral trade

    space through the mutually benecial

    development of the rm into both marketssince 2005 we now possess, between the

    two countries, some fteen ofces and a

    team of several hundred staff.

    As the relationship starts to look at

    maturing to a more trade based focus,

    the announcement by Chinese Premier

    Wen Jiabao in December of an expected

    increase in bilateral trade to US$100

    billion in volume by 2015 has begun

    to concentrate minds on how these

    two giants of Asia are to manage theirdevelopment. Indeed, the China-India

    issue is not just a regional matter, it is

    one that will affect global trade balances

    and security. If China and India succeed,

    global growth is almost assured for the

    remainder of the century. Hundreds of

    millions will be lifted out of poverty.

    Fail, and the fallout may spark serious

    conict, possibly even nuclear. The stakes

    may never have been higher in ensuring

    that a dependable, secure and mutually

    benecial relationship emerges.

    In this comparison I try and examine thedifferences between the two nations, what

    I see as the sticking points, and provide

    clues as to why some of these may be

    about to be removed to clear the path

    for a more pragmatic, and commercial

    minded relationship between the two

    countries. That the relationship is highly

    politicized is beyond doubt; matters

    concerning especially the position of the

    Dalai Lama and the Tibetan Government

    in Exile, currently resident in India,

    provide a case in point. China regards theregime as subversive, and consequently

    uses this to push India towards its point

    of view by making claims on Indian

    territory and making border incursions

    along disputed areas on a regular basis.

    Indias military responds by requesting

    budget increases along its territory with

    China, delaying the construction of cross-

    border highways that they suspect would

    provide China with the opportunity to

    just march in, and both use up resources

    in addition to inhibiting development. For

    a nation requiring massive infrastructure

    development, such expense and deliberateregional suppression comes at a huge

    opportunity price.

    Chinas relationship with Pakistan too,

    can be a thorn in Indias side a failed

    state, responsible for attacks in Indias

    major cities, with a habit of antagonizing

    Indias huge Muslim population causes

    both a continuation of mistrust, but also

    deects Indian attention, nance, military

    and resources towards its western border

    and again prevents India from economicgrowth that could potentially challenge

    Chinas bid for regional supremacy. Its

    hardly any wonder that the two sides view

    each other from polar opposites.

    Introduction - MovingChina and India Forward

    [ By Chris Devonshire-Ellis ]

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    However, against this backdrop is the

    increasing need to develop bi-lateral

    trade ties. China needs a huge, export

    consumer market to sell too, India

    provides this. So does China for Indian

    businesses. What is happening therefore

    is a rebalancing of the relationship, to try

    and move it away from border disputes to

    a more settled and reliable trade platform.

    Depending upon the future plans of the

    Dalai Lama, who one suspects, is well

    aware of the problems caused to the

    Indian government in hosting him, it is

    possible the next Dalai Lama and by this

    I mean the Dharamsala appointed gure,

    not the possible Beijing incarnation may

    be found born externally from India.

    Such a scenario would provide India

    with a get-out clause in its relations with

    China, and lead the government in exile to

    establish its operations elsewhere. There

    are precedents the fourth Dalai Lamawas born in Mongolia. It is not beyond

    the bounds of imagination to perceive the

    next incarnation being found there the

    Mongolians relationship with China is

    tetchy at the best of times, and Mongolia

    is largely interdependent from Chinese

    trade. That scenario mentioned, it is also

    possible that the current Dalai Lama

    could nd a way to agree with Beijing

    to assume a reincarnation found in Tibet,

    or China. Such issues require dialogue,

    and are naturally highly sensitive. Onehopes such discussions are taking place,

    at least informally. It would appear in

    Beijings best interests not to preside

    over a situation where two Dalai Lamas

    are announced. That would only prolong

    the conict for much of the remainder of

    the century.

    China-India trade developments for the

    time being then are very much interwoven

    with the future of the Dalai Lama. If his

    government leaves India, Indian relationswith China will massively improve.

    Both sides understand each other on this

    point, and both are mature enough to

    determine border dispute reminders not

    withstanding that time will tell.

    Beyond this also lies a strong desire to

    reconnect old trade routes and border

    regions. Bangladesh and Myanmar lie

    between China and India, it is in the

    interests of both to see these nations

    become better equipped, more able to

    participate in global trade, and open up

    their lands to the exploiting of valuable

    resources. That will take a regime change

    in Myanmar, however China is also

    becoming frustrated with the lack of

    progress made in the country. It too wants

    access to resources and an increase in

    trade. Continuing to support the generals

    indenitely while the potential for the

    Burmese market in buying Chinese goods

    remains in poverty is not a scenario

    particularly appealing to Beijing. The

    same can be said for Delhi.

    Bangladesh meanwhile offers a port on

    the Bay of Bengal for China, and access

    to Indian markets as well as towards the

    Middle East. Chittagong is already being

    redeveloped with billions of dollars of

    Chinese investment. Better relations with

    India and Bangladesh also can reconnect

    the Jute industry, and potentially revitalize

    Calcutta. The city is already home to the

    largest overseas diaspora of Tibetans,

    and links back to Lhasa, if re-established,

    could once again remake Lhasa into aregional Himalayan trading hub. The

    purists may scoff, but Lhasa traditionally

    had such a role. Reclaiming trade routes

    from Calcutta and Dhaka to Lhasa would

    also revitalize the Himalayan region. If

    China and India are unencumbered in

    political issues over the Himalayas, better

    cooperation concerning water resources

    and management may also result. It is

    pertinent to note that while the Dalai Lama

    calls for more focus on climate change in

    Tibet, its his own removal that is morelikely to provide a platform for increased

    regional cooperation of a resource

    that needs to be properly managed,

    tensions dispersed, and developed along

    multilateral considerations.

    Pakistan remains awkward, but again,

    Chinese patience is wearing thin. The

    export of terrorism to West China

    alarms Beijing, as does another potential

    market for Chinese goods remaining

    in poverty. Peace is required, not justfor the redemption of Pakistan but to

    also assist with the redevelopment of

    Central Asia. What was once a cosy

    relationship built in part to frustrate India

    is now looking increasingly difcult to

    maintain in its current form. China wants

    markets in Pakistan, and Pakistan needs

    infrastructure. The same is true of Central

    Asia, and the huge markets to the west

    in Iran. Securing such a vast territory

    to allow Chinese businesses to operate

    in them is becoming more of a pressing

    concern than using Pakistan as a needle

    to prickle Indian sensitivities and keep its

    military occupied along its Western front.

    I predict longer term changes in Chinas

    expectations from Pakistan, although

    this will undoubtedly take time in what

    remains a fragile country.

    While the current status between China

    and India remains built upon political

    differences, there are moves to reconstruct

    this towards trade based foundations.

    Sino-India trade during 2010 reached

    US$60 billion, the same level it was at

    before the global nancial crisis. US$60

    billion is incidentally, the same trade

    volume that China currently has with

    Russia. Premier Wen, recently stated in

    Delhi it should increase to US$100 billion

    by 2015. Clearly, trade is developing

    and becoming more important. Chinese

    businesses are starting to move to India,

    and Indian businesses are increasingly

    moving to China. We know, as our

    practice is positioned right in the middle

    of that trade and we handle FDI into both

    countries from either side.

    My belief is that although the old disputes

    and mistrust in relations is undoubtedly

    there, both nations see a need to move

    beyond this stalemate and recalibrate

    their understandings. It is curious that

    an elderly monk and a government of

    Generals provide two of the keys that

    will enable the rusty lock to bilateral

    trade development be broken open.

    As and when it is, that US$100 billion

    will begin to look like small change.

    The opportunities between the two are

    enormous.

    Chris Devonshire-Ellis is the founding

    partner of Dezan Shira & Associates,

    who special ize in foreign direct

    investment, legal and tax advice in

    China and India. The firm maintains

    10 China offices (Beijing, Dalian,

    Qingdao, Shanghai, Hangzhou, Ningbo,

    Guangzhou, Zhongshang, Shenzhenand Hong Kong) and five in India

    (Delhi, Calcutta, Mumbai, Bangalore

    and Chennai). The practice may be

    reached at [email protected].

    Chris also contributes to our business

    web sites India Brieng and the China-

    India platform 2point6billion.

    Note: The articles in this comparison

    have previously appeared in our

    2point6bill ion, China Brief ingand India Briefing websites and

    publications, and may have been

    amended from their original content.

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    The Next 20 YearsChina and India are the two giants that will

    rmly buttress the worlds economy in the

    coming century. And as both countriesprepare themselves for a second wave of

    growth in the aftermath of what has indeed

    proven to be a difcult nancial crisis for

    Asia, questions are now being asked as to

    the extent of competition that India really

    brings to global markets when measured

    against China.

    In some respects, the rise of India has

    been greatly overshadowed by what

    has happened in China over the past 20

    years. If the development in China hadnot occurred, then it would be India that

    would be considered the new darling

    of global growth. To some extent, that

    has enabled India to commence its own

    growth curves without the media attention

    that has been focused on China. In other

    ways, however, there is little doubt that the

    phenomenal growth of China has served

    to spur India into action, and to nally

    release the country from its moribund,

    50 year hangover of independence from

    Britain.

    While China has largely dominated

    headlines, India has begun to act. In

    fact, over much of the past decade,

    Indias growth patterns have mirrored

    Chinas at an average of about 8 percent

    annually until the nancial crisis hit, albeit

    coming from a far smaller base. Currently

    however, Indias share of global trade is

    a little under 20 percent of Chinas total.

    But with an economy about to break into

    the global top 10 in terms of size Indiacurrently is in 12th position the global

    community is both starting to take note

    of Indias rise and to appreciate the clout;

    as well as the opportunities such power

    brings.

    By 2030, India will have overtaken

    China in terms of population, and almost

    certainly in GDP growth rates. With

    double the amount of available workforce,

    a younger population and a consumer

    economy of its own of about half a

    billion people in its new middle class,

    Indias tortoise against Chinas hare will

    have caught up signicantly. When that

    happens, the two countries will have

    reached their rightful place as global

    trading giants and regional partners andtruly usher in what will become the Asian

    century of dynamism and growth.

    Trading PartnersBilateral trade between India and China

    has grown signicantly since 2005. Due

    to the global economic downturn, trade

    between the two countries declined in

    2009. Interestingly, Chinese imports of

    Indian goods fell 26.6 percent more than

    Indian imports of Chinese goods. In fact,

    this speaks to a broader problem with therelationship between the two countries.

    In many ways, China seems to benet

    China and India Compared

    China vs. India 2010 Fast Facts

    Item China India

    Size of economy in global terms 3rd 12th

    Global position in purchasingpower parity

    2nd 4th

    Global ranking among fastestgrowing economies

    5th 2nd

    Per capita income (US$) 3,180 1,032

    World per capita income ranking 104th 139th

    Number of workers (millions) 250 500

    Population growth rate 0.63% 1.55%

    Total population in global terms 21% 17.5%Percentage of global trade 8% 1.5%

    Global trade (US$bn, 2008) 2,561 437

    Length of coastline (km) 18,000 7,000

    Amount of arable land(sq. km in millions)

    0.64 1.45

    Available fresh water area (sq. km) 3,720 314,400

    Total rail track (km) 86,000 63,140

    Total highway length (km in millions) 1.43 0.07

    Total number of Englishspeakers (millions)

    10 232

    China vs. India 2030 Global Forecast

    Item China India

    Size of economy in global terms 2nd 4th

    Global position in purchasing power parity 2nd 3rd

    Global ranking among fastestgrowing economies

    20th 12th

    Per capita income (US$) 10,700 8,900

    World per capita income ranking 80th 88th

    Number of workers (millions) 175 600

    Population growth rate 0.82% 1.01%

    Total population in global terms 19% 21.5%

    Percentage of global trade 8% 5.5%

    Global trade (US$bn, 2008) 9,824 4,500

    Total rail track (km) 200,000 130,000

    Total highway length (km in millions) 1.8 0.9

    Total number of Englishspeakers (millions)

    10 250

    (Data in these charts has been extrapolated from the following sources:U.S. Dept of Commerce, CIA, Free World Academy, Keystone, Photius,Legatum Institute. Please note data for 2030 is partially subjective,

    although based on publicly available forecasts and is inherently proneto 20 years of potentially unforeseen circumstances)

    Source: PRC Ministry of Commerce/China Brieng Analysis

    Indian Trade Gap with China

    India Trade Gap

    Linear [India Trade Gap]

    US$100million 50

    0

    -50

    -100

    -150

    -200

    -250

    2005 2006 2007 2008 2009

    2005 2006 2007 2008 2009

    India Imports 89.35 145.82 240.16 315 296.67

    China Imports 97.68 102.78 146.31 202.81 137.14

    Percent Change India 50.80% 62.13% 64.70% 31.20% -5.80%

    Percent Change China 27.20% 5.22% 42.30% 38.70% -32.40%

    China/India Imports

    China Imports India Imports Percent Change China Percent Change India

    US$100million 350

    300

    250

    200

    150

    100

    50

    0

    Source: PRC Ministry of Commerce/China Brieng Analysis

    80.00%

    60.00%

    40.00%

    20.00%

    0.00%

    -20.00%

    -40.00%

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    more from trade with India. While in

    2005 India enjoyed a trade surplus with

    China, the situation ipped in 2006. Since

    then, the trade gap has steadily grown

    and if the current growth trend holds, the

    Indian trade decit could reach US$20

    billion this year. Furthermore, India

    typically imports medium priced nished

    products, while it exports raw materials.The inequality of trade has led to tension

    as Indian manufacturers have a tough time

    competing with cheap, Chinese produced

    goods.

    Trade in 2009 was down signicantly

    from 2008 levels. However, the month to

    month trend overall, from January 2009

    to January 2010, has been increasing.

    Interestingly, Indian imports of Chinese

    goods are climbing at a higher rate than

    Chinese imports of Indian goods.

    Chinas Top 15Exports to India 2009

    Aluminum

    Electrical machinery

    Fertilizers

    Impregnated text fabrics

    Inorganic chemicals and rare earth

    Iron and steel

    Iron and steel products

    Machinery

    Manmade lament, fabric

    Minerals

    Optic and medical instruments

    Organic chemicals

    Plastic

    Silk; silk yarn and fabric

    Vehicles

    Chinas Top 15 Importsfrom India 2009

    Articial owers and feathers

    CopperCotton; yarn and fabric

    Electrical machinery

    Fish and seafood

    Hides and skins

    Inorganic chemicals and rare earth

    Iron and steel

    Machinery

    Ores, slag, ash

    Organic chemicals

    Plastic

    Precious stones and metals

    Salt, surfur, earth, stoneTanning, dye, paint and putty

    While trade has brought China and

    India closer together, the two have pasts

    riddled with disputes. In 1962, the two

    nations fought a war over disputed border

    territories, and to this day, Arunachal

    Pradesh and a section of Kashmir remain

    in dispute, though many international

    sorganizations, including the Asian

    Development Bank, support Indias

    claims of sovereignty. Political tensions

    frequently affect economic trade. India

    has successfully appealed to the WTO on

    several occasions to block the export of

    Chinese products.

    While it seems that for the time being

    trade will continue to increase, a majordispute could severely disrupt their

    economic relationship.

    China Project Ofcesvs. India Project OfcesEstablishing project ofces (POs) in a

    country is useful as they permit foreign

    investment and participation in a specic

    project, usually linked to a high value

    contract that may take two or three years

    to complete. They negate the need for theforeign participant to establish a more

    permanent presence, as the PO is linked

    to the contract completion terms, yet

    provide exibility of hiring labor, funding

    the project, and remitting prots overseas.

    As China developed and required specic

    skill sets to complete specic, usually

    construction based projects, the China

    PO enjoyed a relatively successful period

    of popularity in the late 1990s and early

    2000s. Recently they have fallen out

    of favor, mainly as Chinese contractorsare now able to take the lions share of

    construction work and do not need foreign

    short term sub-contractors to assist, and

    also because the Chinese themselves are

    restricting their use. When discussing

    the matter with authorities in Beijing,

    it appeared no PO licenses have been

    granted for a number of years, and that

    applications would probably no longer

    be approved.

    Indian Imports from China/Chinese Importsfrom India Jan 2009 - Jan 2010 (US$)

    India imports China imports

    Jan-09 2.06 billion 861 million

    Feb-09 1.75 billion 1.14 billion

    Mar-09 2.22 billion 1.31 billion

    Apr-09 2.39 billion 1.35 billion

    May-09 2.35 billion 1.02 billion

    Jun-09 2.26 billion 927 million

    Jul-09 2.78 billion 979 million

    Aug-09 2.69 billion 799 million

    Sep-09 2.67 billion 1.42 billion

    Oct-09 2.44 billion 935 million

    Nov-09 2.78 billion 1.19 billion

    Dec-09 3.29 billion 1.78 billion

    Jan-10 2.81 billion 1.82 billionSource: PRC Ministry of Commerce

    China Total Imports/Exports World (US$)

    World imports World exports

    2005 660.12 billion 761.99 billion

    2006 791.61 billion 969.07 billion

    2007 955.82 billion 1.21 trillion2008 1.13 trillion 1.43 trillion

    2009 1.01 trillion 1.2 trillion

    Source: PRC Ministry of Commerce

    Indian Imports from China/ChineseImports from India (US$)

    India imports China imports

    2005 8.94 billion 9.77 billion

    2006 14.58 billion 10.28 billion

    2007 24.02 billion 14.63 billion

    2008 31.5 billion 20.28 billion

    2009 29.67 billion 13.71 billion

    Source: PRC Ministry of Commerce

    China Total Imports/Exports Asia (US$)

    Asia imports Asia exports

    2005 271.45 billion 199.67 billion

    2006 318.8 billion 244.69 billion

    2007 378.54 billion 307.56 billion

    2008 702.66 billion 663.3 billion

    2009 603.45 billion 568.6 billion

    Source: PRC Ministry of Commerce

    Jan 2009 Jan 2010

    China Imports India Imports Linear [China Imports] Linear [India Imports]

    US$100million

    35

    30

    25

    20

    15

    10

    5

    0

    Jan-09

    Mar-09

    May-09

    Sep-09

    Jul-09

    Nov-09

    Jan-10

    Mar-10

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    This policy is in sharp contrast to India,

    where the project ofce remains a viable

    vehicle for foreign investors to participate

    in infrastructure and construction related

    projects tied for a limited period to a

    specific contract. Foreign investors

    planning to execute specic projects in

    India can set up a temporary project site

    ofce in India to handle the contract. TheReserve Bank of India provides approval

    and grants general permission for foreign

    entities to establish project ofces, subject

    to certain conditions. These dictate that

    the foreign investor has secured a contract

    from an Indian company to execute a

    project in India.

    In addition, the project needs to adhere to

    one of the following conditions:

    The project is funded directly byinward remittance from abroad

    The project is funded by a bilateral

    or multilateral international nancing

    agency

    The project has been cleared by an

    appropriate authority

    A company or entity in India awarding

    the contract has been granted term loan

    by a public nancial institution or a

    bank in India for the project

    If the above criteria are not met, theforeign entity has to approach RBI to

    obtain approval.

    In terms of remittances, authorized Indian

    banks can permit intermittent remittances

    by the PO pending the winding up or

    completion of the project provided they

    are satised with the legitimacy of the

    transaction, subject to the following:

    The PO submits an auditors or chartered

    accountants certicate to the effect thatsufcient provisions have been made to

    meet other liabilities in India including

    income tax

    An undertaking from the PO that the

    remittance will not, in any way, affect

    the completion of the project in India

    and that any shortfall of funds for

    meeting any liability in India will be

    met by inward remittance from abroad

    Any inter-project transfer of funds requires

    prior permission of the pertinent regionalofce of the RBI under whose jurisdiction

    the PO is situated.

    In the nancial circumstances described

    above, readers familiar with China based

    transactions involving foreign currency

    should note the Reserve Bank of India in

    such circumstances fullls much the same

    role as Chinas State Administration of

    Foreign Exchange.

    Under these c i rcumstances , i t i sapparent that in order to take advantage

    of, and participate in, Indias massive

    reconstruction projects, foreign investors

    may well nd the Indian project ofce

    a suitable vehicle to use as it affords

    relatively easy market entry and exit upon

    project completion. This contrasts greatly

    with China, where the project ofce is

    now largely seen as having had its day.

    China FICE vs. IndiaBranch OfcesThere are some fundamental legal

    structural differences between Chinas

    foreign-invested commercial enterprises

    and Indias branch offices (BO), not

    least amongst them being that Indian

    BOs are not independent legal entities,

    whereas China FICEs are. However, in

    terms of use, both fulll pretty much the

    same criteria for foreign investors: they

    permit the import and export of goods,

    can buy and sell goods, can trade or offerconsulting services, and can remit prots

    back overseas. Branch ofces differ in that

    they are still considered part of a foreign

    entity based overseas, and are not limited

    liability companies. Foreign-invested

    commercial enterprises are independent,

    limited liability companies. Accordingly,

    BOs do not require capitalization whereas

    FICEs do.

    A downside of the India BO is the high

    level of income tax 41.86 percent againstIndias norm of 33.99 percent and the

    standard income tax rate of 25 percent

    in China.

    Other differences exist in terms of FICEs

    and BOs engaged in the service industries.

    Branch ofces do not attract turnover tax,

    which China does levy on FICEs involved

    in the service industry at a monthly rate

    of 5 percent. Service industry BOs are

    subject to service tax against invoice

    value at a rate of 10.3 percent. For tradinghowever, the applicable tax burden is

    VAT, which in China is 17 percent and

    in India is 12.5 percent. Though it may

    not be possible to reclaim all VAT upon

    export in China, whereas in India VAT

    can be reclaimed in full upon export. The

    advantage of the BO over the FICE is the

    ease of establishing and exiting it as an

    entity. For this reason it may make sense

    to set up a BO despite the initial higher

    income tax burden to test the Indianmarket without having to commit to major

    capitalization costs in India. For longer

    term trading and manufacturing, a private

    limited company incorporation would be

    more suitable.

    China WFOE vs.India Private LimitedCompaniesChinas wholly foreign-owned enterprise

    (WFOE) has become the investment

    vehicle of choice for the internationalinvestor wanting to manufacture, service

    or trade in China. In addition to the

    WFOEs expansive business scope, its

    unrivaled popularity arises from multiple

    other factors, including 100 percent

    foreign ownership and control, security

    of technology and intellectual property

    rights, a self-developed internal structure,

    the insertion of existing company culture,

    and ability to sell to Chinas domestic

    market, and the ability to repatriate prots.

    In this regard, Indias private limitedcompanies (IPLC) are the same animal,

    with the exception that whereas China has

    a specic set of regulatory considerations

    for Sino-foreign joint ventures, an IPLC

    can also be an Indo-foreign JV, and both

    100 percent foreign-owned IPLCs and

    IPLC JVs are governed by the same

    regulations. For the purposes of this

    analysis, we shall concentrate on the 100

    percent foreign-owned IPLC. The need

    for such a company to have either 100

    percent foreign ownership or whether itrequires an Indian investor is dependent,

    in a similar fashion to China, upon the

    Foreign Invested CommercialEnterprises vs. Branch Ofces

    Requirement China India

    Limited liability company Yes No

    Minimum capital investment US$4,420 N/A

    Industr y restrictions Can only sell whatis purchased

    Retail

    Income tax 25% 41.86%VAT 17% 12.5%

    Average gross hourly pay US$3 US$1.20

    Employee welfare(% of salary)

    45-50% 10.3%

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    scope of the businesss intended activities.

    The intended scope of business activities

    in India needs to be studied rst to assess

    the suitability of the business as being a

    100 percent foreign-owned entity.

    On the assumption that the scope

    of activities does not require Indian

    investment, then an IPLC may beestablished with 100 percent foreign

    ownership in India. This is known as the

    automatic route and does not require

    additional approvals.

    Unlike China, application procedures

    for 100 percent foreign ownership

    of IPLC may sometimes fall into a

    second category, which does require

    specic approval from Indias Foreign

    Investment Promotion Board (FIPB).

    These categories are identified by theReserve Bank of India, and comprise two

    lists concerning approval required (List

    A), and limited eligibility (List B) that

    affect foreign investment in India. All

    items and activities that are not mentioned

    in List A and List B are eligible for foreign

    investment under the automatic route up

    to 100 percent. Items in List A require

    approval from the FIPB. List B prescribes

    the limits on the foreign investments for

    which automatic approval will be granted

    by RBI, subject to certain restrictions.The lists are quite specic and generally

    do not cover standard manufacturing or

    trading which are usually applicable under

    the automatic route. Most India investors

    entering the market to manufacture, trade

    and sell standard products will not fall into

    either List A or B restrictions.

    Similar to the China WFOE, an IPLC

    requires a minimum of two directors,

    and has from two to 50 shareholders with

    limited liability related to the amountof paid up capital. Both directors and

    shareholders can be other legal entities. As

    is the case in China, the amount of paid

    up capital required should be a nancial

    exercise to determine the businesss start

    up and cash ow needs.

    Interestingly, when all taxes are considered,

    in terms of repatriating prots from India,

    the IPLC is more tax efcient than the

    China WFOE. Although Indian prots

    tax is higher, it does not levy a tax onprots repatriated overseas, which China

    does impose. The additional costs of labor

    welfare are also considerably more in

    China, making the IPLC more nancially

    viable than its Chinese counterpart,

    something to mull over if considering one

    market over the other.

    China vs. India

    CorporateIncome TaxesBoth China and India have fairly well

    developed tax structures, both with the

    authority to levy taxes divided betweenthe central and regional governments.

    Both countries are going through an

    extended period of tax reform at present,

    and India especially as it seeks to pass

    legislation to update its tax base for the

    rst time in 50 years. Top amongst these

    changes is likely to be the introduction of

    a goods and services tax (GST) at varying

    rates amongst internal purchase and

    sales, although 100 percent refund upon

    export is expected. The GST is expected

    to amount to 16 percent of invoice value.This system is expected to partially

    replace VAT is some states, although in

    others it will be a new introduction. VAT

    is not uniformly applied by all states in

    India. For certain sin goods, such as

    tobacco and petrol, VAT may be applied

    on top of GST. This system is expected to

    be rolled out during 2011, however may

    be subject to further delay.

    India however does score better in the

    application of VAT (and future GST)refunds against exports. China levies a

    tiered system of VAT refunds against

    exports, and in some sectors, such as

    garments, does not permit refunds at

    all. India however permits VAT refunds

    against all categories of goods and

    services upon export. It should be noted

    that China does not currently levy VAT on

    services, while India does.

    In terms of corporate taxes, applicable

    rates are as follows:

    Tax incentivesWith China unifying its tax base in 2008,

    it did away with preferential tax incentives

    largely available to foreign investors, andespecially those in free trade zones and

    special economic zones. China now tends

    to levy or provide refunds against a variety

    of taxes depending upon industry. In doing

    so the Chinese central government tries to

    manage balances between domestic sales

    of certain products and exports of certain

    products, and varies these from time to

    time or as circumstances dictate. China

    is still very much a centrally planned

    economy. Specic tax incentives therefore

    are usually applicable in certain industriesonly, occasionally regionally based,

    and typically involve a manipulation of

    business tax, prots tax or VAT.

    India on the other hand wishes to develop

    its special economic zones and free trade

    zones, and accordingly provides highly

    attractive tax incentives to do so. These

    can include 100 percent corporate income

    tax breaks for up to 10 years. These can

    be applicable to certain development

    projects to be carried out in India, mainlywithin infrastructure. Incentives also

    exist for businesses involved in 100

    percent export of products manufactured

    in an Indian SEZ or FTZ. These are

    typically 100 percent for the rst ve

    years of protability, and 50 percent for

    an additional ve years, although there

    are regional and eligibility variations.

    Nevertheless, the boom in manufacturing

    that China enjoyed with the tax incentives

    it used to offer in its development zones

    are now being recreated in India, and thisshould spur foreign investors familiar

    with the China model to consider India

    Wholly Foreign Owned Enterprisesvs. Private Limited Companies

    Requirement China India

    Limited liability Yes Yes

    Minimum capital investment Industry specic US$2,500

    Regulatory status One tier Two tier

    Income tax 25% 33.99%

    VAT 17% 12.5%

    Prots repatriation tax 10% Nil

    Tax China India

    Corporate income tax 25% 30.9% to 42.23%

    Education surcharge Nil 2% to3%

    Business (turnover) tax 5% Nil

    Wealth tax Nil 1% (if t/o aboveUS$32,600)

    Dividend tax tooverseas parent

    10% 14%

    Transaction-based taxes China India

    VAT 17% 12.5%

    GST Nil 16%

    Withholding taxeson royalties chargefrom overseas

    0-45%dependingon service,

    average 20%

    10-40% dependingif permanent

    establishment isin India or not

    Note: While every eort has been made to ensure accuracy of tax data,readers are asked to bear in mind that in both cases, regional variationsoccur and that the tax regimes in both countries are evolving rapidly.Te gures above are as a general guideline only, and may be subjectto change. Accurate and industry specic tax data should be obtaineddirectly from professional advisers.

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    as an alternative manufacturing base, as

    these incentives provide a clear impetus

    for doing so.

    It should be noted that China engages a

    calendar year audit cycle, January 1 to

    December 31. India uses the scal period

    from April 1 to March 31.

    China vs. India:Commercial RealEstate RentalsFor the purposes of this study, we used

    New York as a benchmark to help compare

    China with India. Apartment rentals were

    based on buildings built no earlier than

    1980 which an apartment seeker would

    expect to pay in each of these cities. We

    have identied only the medium range

    level in this inclusion.

    There is not a huge difference between

    China and India, although the China

    property market is more speculative,

    somewhat erratic in movement and prone

    to regular bubbles. Rentals in Mumbaiare increasing and are expected to do

    so signicantly while demand outstrips

    supply for the next three to ve years.

    SummaryFrom the g loba l manufac tu r ing

    perspective, China and India now offer

    similar, yet also differing opportunities.

    Chinas main thrust of its development

    is now creating equality of wealth within

    its borders, and to do this it needs to both

    improve upon some of the infrastructure,

    education and housing options and

    facilities that are currently available in

    its rural areas. Chinas growth will come

    increasingly from the rural population a

    total of some 600 million people and it

    is this sector that the government wishes

    to develop into becoming a consumer

    class. Todays opportunities for China

    are largely about being able to service

    this sector.

    China is also moving up the value

    chain and wants to move away from

    its traditional low cost, export driven

    manufacturing base. In doing so,

    opportunities exist in adding value

    research and development, innovation

    and design are all going to be developing

    services that China increasingly needs.

    China is changing towards more

    sophistication in adding value, together

    with increased opportunities in the sale of

    goods and services to its domestic market.

    For India, this is also partially true.

    Indians are receptive to internationalbrands and a wealthy middle class, with

    English widely spoken, has huge and

    yet still untapped potential for global

    manufacturers looking for sales overseas.

    This is true of everything from auto

    components to fashion, and in this aspect

    the two countries share similarities in

    their major urban markets. India has also

    taken up the mantle, recently discarded by

    China, of offering cheap manufacturing.

    As China has wound down its free trade

    zones and special economic zones for thepurposes of export manufacturing, India

    has ramped its up. China has become too

    dependent upon export manufacturing to

    the detriment of its overall economy, while

    India does not have enough manufacturing

    capability and is too dependent upon

    services. It is these realignments that

    are creating the opportunities. Indias

    provision of tax breaks of 10 years are an

    opportunity for growth and protability

    in overseas markets that should not be

    wasted.

    Accordingly, India may now be considered

    as a viable and serious destination for

    export driven manufacturing to markets

    abroad. While the world recovers from

    the global nancial crisis and Western

    demand remains weak, that may seem

    somewhat optimistic. Businesses still

    need to achieve growth, and as Asia starts

    to post impressive results in earnings and

    the ability for its population to become

    consumers, so manufacturing in Indiato service these markets becomes more

    realistic.

    In truth, the China vs. India debate is

    a no-brainer. Its neither one, nor the

    other, and although some cross over in

    capabilities will undoubtedly emerge, it

    is quite apparent to the author at least,

    that global strategy, in terms of getting

    growth onto balance sheets of parent

    companies elsewhere, must now embrace

    China and India as two unique, butcomplimentary destinations to achieve

    dynamism and prot capabilities for the

    next two decades.

    India is now more competitive than China

    overall for labor intensive industries, a

    reduction of income tax to 30 percent

    (China: 25 percent) during 2011 will

    trigger a spurt of foreign investment.

    Also of note are Indias lower mandatory

    welfare payments to employees - an

    average of 10 percent against Chinas 50percent. These developments will increase

    Indian competitiveness over China in

    certain industries.

    Apartment rents: Furnished four bed, medium range(US$ per month)

    New York 8,330

    Shanghai 1,430

    Mumbai 1,070

    Beijing 1,050

    Delhi 930

    Apartment rents: Unfurnished three bed, medium range(US$ per month)

    New York 5,200

    Shanghai 1,230

    Beijing 760

    Mumbai 720

    Delhi 470

    Apartment rents: Normal, local rent, medium range(US$ per month)

    New York 3,100Shanghai 770

    Beijing 600

    Mumbai 480

    Delhi 370

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    p o p u l a t i o n i s s e t t o

    dramatically shrink its

    workforce and effectively

    pass the baton to India as

    the worlds manufacturing hub, according

    to analysis from Morgan Stanley and the

    Global Times. Chinas one child policy,

    which has seen it manage its population

    over the past three decades, is now nally

    kicking into the work pool and reducingthe number of Chinese workers.

    The Global Times says, 2015 will mark

    the beginning of the end of Chinas

    demographic dividend. The World Bank

    also echoes those sentiments, predicting

    that Chinas GDP growth will fall to 7.7

    percent in 2015 and to 6.7 percent by

    2020. Morgan Stanley expects Indias

    growth to head in the opposite direction

    and to surpass Chinas growth two years

    from now. Personally, I suspect that whenspeculation and manipulation is stripped

    out of Chinas current GDP growth rates,

    Indias economy is already growing at a

    faster pace than Chinas.

    Chinas aging workforce is already

    having an impact on the nature of

    conducting business in the country. It

    was in recognition of this that China

    strengthened its labor laws two years ago,

    making it more difcult for employers

    to lay off aging staff without having topay signicant compensation, based on

    years of service, for loss of employment.

    That move effectively made employers

    nancially responsible for at least part

    of the nations pension requirements.

    China will possess 200 million people

    above 60 years in 2015, and workers

    coming to retirement age are expected to

    add an unprecedented 10 million retirees

    per annum to that gure. That loss of

    workforce is already starting to make

    China more expensive, and this trendwill continue. India, however, is poised to

    provide the vast bulk of the global labor

    pool. By 2020, the average Indian will be

    29, while the average Chinese will be 37.

    The data has interesting repercussions.

    China is becoming aconsumer market to sell

    to rather than a globalmanufacturing hub

    This is often quoted as the dynamic that

    will maintain China as a major destination

    for foreign direct investment. While this is

    true, the nature of selling to China is still

    wrapped in many problems, especially for

    overseas investors. The China market is

    prone to protectionist measures, and with

    the Chinese government itself still a major

    shareholder in many Chinese state-owned

    enterprises, foreign investors will havean increasingly tough time competing

    with them. Additionally, selling to China

    requires a profound knowledge of Chinese

    culture and tastes. Then theres the

    stranglehold that China has on much of

    its domestic logistics industry. Selling

    to China is ne, but it is a path fraught

    with difculties. The successful foreign

    investor will have deep pockets and a

    sound Chinese joint venture partner to

    help them. The domestic expertise and

    finesse to assist sales of products tothe Chinese consumer will invariably

    require Chinese local expertise. Brands

    well-known globally will have to adapt

    marketing, positioning and even recipes

    to t the Chinese model. As I pointed

    out two months ago, white goods need to

    become red.

    Indias infrastructurewoes have becomeits opportunity

    The most common complaint about Indiais its infrastructure, which coupled with

    a generally moribund economy for 40

    years after independence, and some quite

    extreme weather conditions, has meant a

    lack of investment in virtually everything.

    That is already changing, as airports are

    xed, bridges spanning oceans are built,

    and city subway networks are opened.

    For contractors, architects and engineers

    who made good in China, India is the new

    opportunity. A staggering US$500 billion

    is being spent in the next three years inIndia, and foreign businesses involved in

    any aspect of infrastructure development

    are scrambling to get into the market.

    Global sourcingis relocatingChina will still maintain various sectors

    for sourcing in which it has specific

    expertise, and of course there is still

    its domestic market to service. But the

    sheer weight of economics makes India

    the future tiger of global procurement.

    Wages are significantly lower than in

    China, and our recent Asian Comparator

    survey of wage levels and related costs

    in China, India and other Asian countries

    consistently showed India as excellent

    value for money in the labor pool. Sure

    there are comments about quality and that

    infrastructure bugbear again, but China

    went through the same issues twenty years

    ago. Made in China was a poor brand

    in the 1980s. Indias infrastructure is not

    as bad as is made out either, and the cost

    savings are there to be had. Relocating

    China DemographicsDictate India as GlobalManufacturing Hub

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    a business from China to India is also,

    from the legal, operational and nancial

    perspective, rather easier than is generally

    considered, as our report earlier this

    month demonstrates. China meanwhile,

    continues to become more expensive, as

    the Communist China Price re-establishes

    a policy of charging foreign investors

    more.

    I took the matter up over the weekend with

    a number of expatriate CEOs working in

    India. Crucially, they had also spent time

    in China a minimum of ve years each,

    and some up to ten running businesses

    and foreign invested enterprises. Now

    they were in India and all working

    with signicant businesses with global

    turnovers in the tens of millions to billions

    of dollars. When it came down to it, they

    said, China was easier to do business inthan India. China was better at organizing

    big projects, and the labor pool was

    disciplined and productive in ways that

    India was not. However, when it came to

    the smaller details, India was far easier to

    live in than China. Cultural differences,

    languages, and more acceptance by

    Indians than Chinese of their overseas

    background and experience all made

    them feel more comfortable in India than

    in China. However, although India wasmore difcult at rst base to do business

    in than China, the feeling was that was

    the precise reason they all had MBAs and

    years of management experience they

    were being paid to solve such problems,

    and therefore it was just part of the

    job. Asked whether they would prefer

    to live in India or China (Mumbai was

    regularly compared with Shanghai) the

    surprising conclusion was that India was

    preferable. Several executives expressed

    a desire never to return to China. Theconclusion therefore is simple: India

    is more awkward than China when

    implementing large projects. But it is

    not insurmountable, and I am well paid

    precisely to solve such issues.

    Clearly, the attitudes are changing, along

    with the demographics. China may huff

    and puff and posture all it wants, but

    as it becomes increasingly belligerent

    towards its neighbors, more expensive,and apparently quite willing to blame

    foreigners for taking all the money out of

    the country in response to its economic

    woes, it is progressively becoming less

    tolerant of foreign investment. India is

    the reverse. China cannot, for once, turn

    back the tide that its long-standing one

    child policy has now revealed, and it is

    akin to being King Canute to suggest it

    will. Chinas demographic advantages

    are coming to an accelerating end, and

    it is India that is set to take up the slack.

    Its always nice when a subject you

    have rsthand and long standing

    involvement in finally makes

    the mainstream media, and so it

    proved in November with The

    Economists cover story stipulating how

    Indias growth will outpace that of China.Weve been pointing this out for some

    time and regularly over the past few

    years on our 2point6billion.com and India

    Brieng sites.

    The Economists articles essentially state

    what weve already said, that India will

    soon start to outpace China thanks to a

    young and growing workforce. It also goes

    on to point out that Indias much-derided

    democracy is finally proving fruitful

    rather than a hindrance, and attributes

    Indias surprising economic miracle as

    largely due to its private sector.

    The countrys state may be weak, but

    its private companies are strong, the

    magazine said. Thats very true, and is a

    major part of where China and India, and

    the quality of senior management and

    innovation, differ.

    While the vast majority of Chinas

    largest companies are state-owned and

    subsidized, a matter that is leading to

    calls of unfair competition from the EU

    in particular, the vast majority of Indias

    businesses are private sector run and

    managed and have to generate their own

    income to survive and prosper. That is

    leading to a growing difference in decision

    making and executive talent within

    the two countries, and while Chinese

    executives are hitting a glass ceiling due

    to political considerations and government

    involvement, Indian executives are not.

    In short, Chinese executives are being

    denied the right to develop talents as

    entrepreneurs within Chinas largest

    companies. I do not believe that to be a

    healthy system of management training

    and development.

    But why does this matter to China-based

    businesses? Why are we discussing this

    on China Brieng?

    Well first, lets go back to what The

    Economist had to say and had observed.

    They sa id that , despi te the poor

    headlines generated in the run up to the

    Commonwealth Games, India is doing

    rather well, and its economy is expected

    to expand by 8.5 percent this year. It has

    a long way to go before it is as rich as

    China (the Chinese economy is four times

    bigger), but its growth rate could overtake

    Ahead of the Curve Indias Growth to Outpace Chinas

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    Ahead of the Curve Indias Growth to Outpace Chinas

    Chinas by 2013, if not before. Some

    economists think India will grow faster

    than any other large country over the next

    25 years. Rapid growth in a country of 1.2

    billion people is exciting, to put it mildly.

    The Economist is right. It is exciting.

    Although Chinas economy is four times

    larger than Indias, it is also the second

    largest in the world. India tends to getovershadowed by all the China hyperbole.

    India is, in its own right, the worlds

    eleventh largest economy (nominal GDP)

    and the fourth by purchasing power

    parity. With predictions for that to grow

    at 10 percent per annum for the next two

    decades, the opportunities to succeed

    in India, just as China slows down, are

    overwhelming. It is also important to note

    that while much is made of the Chinese

    and their savings, they lag behind India.

    India has the highest savings rate in theworld at 36 percent.

    Much was made in the media also about

    the Commonwealth Games, and the shit

    and crap that preceded it, but we can

    note the games are proceeding nicely now,

    once a few heads got knocked together,

    and also once a few never been to India

    before media hacks started to realize that

    no, India is not like London or Silicon

    Valley, and that one has to adjust. Stupid,

    yet widely publicized comments of Delhibeing a cesspool are just totally wide of

    the mark. In fact the city, built by Edwin

    Lutyens, was designed to show off the

    splendors of the British Empire and was

    built with large boulevards to rival Paris,

    magnicent buildings, and was greened

    with trees from all over the empire.

    Visitors familiar with it will know what I

    am talking about.

    The Games are a one off, and nothing

    really to do with China. What is to do

    with China though, and The Economist

    echoed our own earlier words, was that

    they noted Chinas workforce will

    shortly start ageing; in a few years time,

    it will start shrinking. India, meanwhile,

    is now blessed with a young and growing

    workforce. Its dependency ratio the

    proportion of children and old people to

    working-age adults is one of the best

    in the world and will remain so for a

    generation. Indias economy will benet

    from this demographic dividend, which

    has powered many of Asias economic

    miracles.

    The second reason for optimism is

    Indias much-derided democracy, The

    Economist continued, noting that Indian

    capitalism is driven by millions of

    entrepreneurs all furiously doing their

    own thing. Since the early 1990s, when

    India dismantled the license raja and

    opened up to foreign trade, Indian business

    has boomed. Ideas ow easily aroundIndia since it lacks Chinas culture of

    secrecy and censorship. That, plus Chinas

    rampant piracy, is why knowledge-based

    industries such as software love India but

    shun China. Given the choice between

    doing business in China or India, most

    foreign investors would probably pick

    China, according The Economist, but

    as the global economy becomes more

    knowledge-intensive, Indias advantage

    will grow.

    Picking China is an issue that is related

    to a familiarity with the country and also

    the fact that in international news, the

    country is main stream in ways that India

    is not. It wasnt so long ago when I was

    just starting Dezan Shira & Associates that

    I was advised by a successful Australian

    businessman, who had been educated at

    Peking University in the late 1980s, notto go to China. The reasons: Its horrible,

    dirty, and communist. Another highly

    prominent Hong Kong businessman told

    me bluntly that the Chinese will steal

    your money. Yet that didnt stop me,

    and the more I learned the more I grew to

    adapt, belong, and begin to make progress.

    I hear similar stories about India today:

    Its dirty, Its bureaucratic, Theres

    no infrastructure. They are all partially

    true, but as I write I am having to devotea considerable additional amount of

    my time and financial investment in

    our firms India practice just to keep

    up with business demand. Being dirty,

    administrative, or having to deal with a

    lack of infrastructure are not very good

    excuses for not wanting to do something

    creative. Its hardly an entrepreneurial

    attitude, and the China guys who bang on

    about that as a difference, well they have

    their own choice to protect I guess anddont want to admit to an alternative. In

    short, lazy consultants and lawyers grown

    too fat on the milk of China. Yet make

    no mistake India is arriving, and it is

    impacting upon China, big time.

    India matters to China businesses because

    it represents a second opportunity that

    has arisen. It is unprecedented in modern

    times for effectively 2.6 billion people

    (the combined size of the China and

    Indian populations, and hence the namefor our web site dealing with the bilateral

    development issues) to walk into the

    global economy in the space of about 25

    years. The opportunities are staggering.

    India matters for China businesses because

    if you are not in India, you dont have an

    alternative to offer your clients. India

    matters because its a global economy, and

    not a Chinese one. India matters because

    it has a wealthy and growing middle class

    of 200 million. India matters becauseit provides a secondary stream of very

    potent revenues. India matters because

    you can hedge your bets against anything

    going wrong in China.

    India matters because, ultimately, being in

    China is not going to be enough in order

    to provide service, cost comparisons,

    alternatives, and market understandings,

    analysis and the dynamics of change that

    India will and is already bringing to China

    and the Global economy. Ive been saying

    it now for the past ve years. Now The

    Economist has just put it on their front

    cover. That doesnt make it any more

    true, but it should act as a trigger for

    more China-focused executives to get

    out, research the potential, get over to

    India, and start to nd out what and where

    the opportunities for their businesses

    are. Doing business in India is about to

    become a global mainstream dynamic.

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    Inte res t in the China - Ind iacomparison has begun in earnest,

    and its not something that is going

    to disappear. While eyes have been

    on China for much of this year over

    currency issues, we nish 2010 with a

    U.S. presidential visit but to India, where

    Barack Obama visited in November 2010.

    Inevitable China-India distinctions are

    going to be made, and you can bet that of

    these, a greater understanding of India,

    rather than China will follow.

    I recognized the issues between the

    two countries several years ago, and

    am regularly asked why Id decided to

    develop my practice out of China and into

    India. The reasons were as follows:

    Personal developmentAt the time we already had seven ofces

    in China (now increased to 10) and, as

    head of the business, it alarmed me that I

    wasnt personally nding the opening of

    a new ofce in China so much of a thrill.Thats bad news for a COO, and indicative

    that I needed to go nd a new challenge to

    keep me occupied or leave the business.

    CompatibilityI had a look at smaller regional markets

    such as Singapore, Mongolia, and even

    North Korea. However, when it came

    down to it, I gured that we really knew

    the following:

    1. We werent intimidated by hugecountries

    2. We understood the implications and

    demographics behind a huge population

    3. We understand and make a living from

    emerging economies and countries

    with rapidly evolving investment laws,

    taxes and regulatory environments.

    When we understood what we were

    and what we knew, the only compatible

    choice for us to expand into out of China

    was India.

    HedgingI also felt that continuously investing inChina, effectively putting all of our eggs

    in one basket, could prove to be a strategic

    mistake if anything drastic went wrong in

    China. If, for whatever reason, investment

    into China slows, then I need to have an

    alternative market to take up the strain and

    even protect us if things get really bad.

    OpportunityI researched the India market for two

    years before we decided to incorporate.Operating originally from virtual ofces

    in ve locations, and with a very skeleton

    staff, I traveled the country all over

    trying to feel India and to get the pulse.

    Commuting between China and India is

    hard work, and I still had China issues to

    look after in the running of the business.

    But the more I was there, the more it made

    sense. We incorporated fully in 2007, and

    upgraded virtual ofces to fully staffed

    facilities that year when we decided to

    make the investment permanent. It wasmade on the basis of government reforms,

    the size of the market, the changing

    demographics in China, and that gut

    feeling that it was the right thing to do.

    Now, we are set to initiate another tranche

    of investment into India and have recently

    expanded our operations in both Mumbai

    and Delhi and recruited several more

    staff. From 2011, our India operations

    are expected to be self funding and are

    expected to provide dividends from 2012.

    I have successfully divested energiesfrom China and into India with protable

    results. And at the end of the day, thats

    what business is all about.

    That doesnt mean that we are not bullish

    on China. We also opened a new ofce in

    Qingdao in mid 2010. However, China is

    changing, as is India, and it is the latter

    changes that will be faster and require

    more attention than the China ones for the

    next three years. China is set on its course.

    India is about to see massive winds ofinvestment blow through. Why? The size

    of the consumer market, which is larger

    than Chinas, arguably more wealthy, and

    certainly more committed to spending,

    and its regulatory reforms (two examples,

    India is reducing its corporate income tax

    rate from 45 percent to 30 percent early

    next year, while the top rate for individual

    income tax will be lowered to 30 percent

    as against Chinas top rate of 45 percent).

    So there Ive covered the whys and

    wherefores and the processes. But

    what are Indian cities really like when

    compared with China? Lets make some

    comparisons:

    Rural land just one hour outside Mumbai

    Shanghai vs. MumbaiThe main issue with Shanghai is that it

    gets referred to a great deal as Chinas

    nancial center. If so, it seriously lags

    behind Mumbai, and has for 20 years.

    Just during the past decade, 2000-2010,

    Mumbais Sensex has climbed 545.2

    percent against the Shanghai Composites

    151.3 percent. Put simply, for every dollar

    youd have earned in Shanghai, youd

    have earned 3.6 in Mumbai. Mumbai isstreets ahead of Shanghai in its nancial

    maturity, profitability, and ability to

    deliver dividends to shareholders. J.P.

    Morgan, among others, also think so.

    Fortunately for Shanghai, its bluster over

    being a nancial center is in fact overrun

    by more practical considerations. It is

    the second largest port in terms of TEUs

    shipped in the world, behind Singapore,

    while Mumbai lies in 24th place. Mumbai

    is also being upgraded signicantly, so

    expect to see that as a top 10 highest

    volume seaport within the next 10 years.

    Its also true to say that the service markets

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    Chinas Indian City Equivalents and the Reasons for Going

    are different. Shanghai is a major port

    from which to reach the West coast of

    the United States, and markets elsewhere

    in Southeast Asia and Australiasia. For

    Mumbai, the markets of the Middle East

    and East Africa dominate, and Europe

    will progress once the global economy

    straightens itself out and the United

    States and European Union generatesome growth. But for the time being, they

    are non-competitive, and dealing with

    different emerging markets of their own.

    In terms of growth, Shanghai can only try

    and compete with Singapore. Mumbai is

    where the growth and development will

    be.

    Pavilion inside Delhis red fort, Old Delhi

    Beijing vs. DelhiBoth capital cities, both recently having

    hosted major sporting events we

    compared the Beijing Olympics withthe Delhi Commonwealth Games here.

    Surprisingly, its New Delhi that is the

    prettier of the two cities. Built by Edward

    Lutyens to show off the imperial grandeur

    of the empire, he really went to town. It

    would be possible to contrast Old Delhi,

    that medieval maze of back alleys and

    rickshaws and bustle and hustle with

    Beijings old hutongs, but the Beijing

    city government knocked most of them

    down. In truth, thats what should happen

    to most of Old Delhi. But for both, its the

    seat of government, although the nearby

    city of Gurgaon is going to become

    more on the map as investors pour in. It

    already possesses the third highest GDP

    in the country. While youll be familiarwith Tianjin Gurgaon is the Indian

    equivalent.

    Rice cultivation in Chennai

    Shenzhen vs. ChennaiShenzhen epitomizes new China, built

    from scratch and now a city of 8 million,

    and the fourth largest port by TEU globally.

    Supported by Hong Kong and Taiwanese

    investors, its grown from just being

    where their local manufacturing industries

    moved to, to being a port servicing global

    supply. Chennai, however, is catching up.With a similar, slightly larger population

    of 8.5 million, it is located on Indias

    southeast coast, and has a slightly different

    demographic (its basically just across the

    ocean from Thailand). Its ability to also

    service the United States and Southeast

    Asia will make it a competitor over

    time with Shenzhen. Currently the 91st

    largest port globally, it is home to billion

    dollar investments by BMW, Nokia,

    IBM and HP, attracting a similar type

    of investment portfolio to Shenzhen.

    Roughly 60 percent of Indias auto exports

    go through Chennai, making it far more

    auto and IT focused than the residual low

    tech industries that Shenzhen is currently

    trying to divest itself from.

    Comparisons of course can go on and

    on, and these above are only meant

    as snapshots rather than complete

    demographic examinations (but email

    us if you require such information). Ive

    also provided some more rural than city

    photos to push home the point that India

    is not always about bustling cities and

    hordes of people. It remains, just as China

    does, largely a rural society, although

    this is changing as education is improvedand, as is also the case with China, more

    people migrate to the cities. Finally, please

    nd a breakdown of Indian imports from

    China, and Chinese imports from India. As

    bilateral trade and competition grows, the

    comparisons will keep coming.

    Indian Imports from China/Chinese Importsfrom India Jan 2009 - Jan 2010 (US$)

    India imports China imports

    Jan-09 2.06 billion 861 million

    Feb-09 1.75 billion 1.14 billion

    Mar-09 2.22 billion 1.31 billion

    Apr-09 2.39 billion 1.35 billionMay-09 2.35 billion 1.02 billion

    Jun-09 2.26 billion 927 million

    Jul-09 2.78 billion 979 million

    Aug-09 2.69 billion 799 million

    Sep-09 2.67 billion 1.42 billion

    Oct-09 2.44 billion 935 million

    Nov-09 2.78 billion 1.19 billion

    Dec-09 3.29 billion 1.78 billion

    Jan-10 2.81 billion 1.82 billion

    Source: PRC Ministry of Commerce

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    China has taken most of

    the headlines as a result

    of its sensational growth

    over the past two decades,

    leaving India somewhat in

    the shade. Yet surprisingly, it is India that

    has provided better protability over the

    past decade. Indeed, Michael Cembalest,

    chief investment ofcer at J.P. Morgan

    Private Banking, has placed his clients

    trust rmly on Indian equities and not

    Chinese.

    In his well-read Eye on the Market

    newsletter, sent to the banks high net

    worth individuals, he noted that since

    China began its market reforms, India has

    in fact well outperformed China. During

    2010, Indias equity market has provided

    investors with a return of 22 percent while

    Shenzhen, South Chinas bourse in the

    booming city next to Hong Kong, has

    actually shrunk by 3 percent.

    Over the past 10 years, Indias Mumbai

    Sensex has risen 545.2 percent compared

    to a rise of just 151.3 percent on Chinas

    Shanghai Composite.

    Of the 13 managers on Cembalests

    platform who invest in emerging or Asian

    equities, 10 are overweight on India, a

    winning strategy for 2010, he says, given

    Indias out performance versus most

    developed and developing equity markets.

    In his newsletter, Cembalest outlines the

    reasons:

    India provides better

    corporate protabilityProt margins compare favorably with

    other developed and developing countries.

    Companies in India are more exposed to

    market forces than in China, which may

    explain the superior margin results.

    Indias equity capitalmarkets are moredeveloped than ChinaIndia ranks in the top 10 globally in equity

    market issuance, with three times the

    number of public companies as China.

    There is greater exposure to the private

    sector as 75 percent of the investable

    market cap in India are private companies,

    compared to 18 percent in China.

    In short, Cembalest is saying that Chinese

    companies are protected by the state

    and that the implied lack of market

    forces create a situation where both state

    interference and a lack of competition

    are in fact making Chinese companies

    less protable and entrepreneurial than

    Indian ones.

    There is also a difference in funding

    90 percent of available bank funding in

    China goes to state-owned enterprises,

    while in India that 90 percent goes to

    privately held businesses. It makes it far

    harder for Chinese companies to compete

    at an executive level with their Indian

    counterparts, even with the benet of state

    funding and involvement. Simply put,

    Indian businessmen are more capable thanChinese businessmen in making money,

    and being able to share that through

    dividends.

    While it remains harder to operate in

    India than China at present, the country is

    very much on an upward trajectory, and

    the results speak for themselves. Chinas

    massive state involvement in its own stock

    markets is hindering the development and

    protability of their businesses. When

    India really starts to kick in with itstax reforms next year, the gap between

    Indian protability and Chinas in their

    respective stock market performances and

    funds may grow even wider.

    Mumbai StockExchange OutperformsShanghaiMumbai may be on the way to overtaking

    Shanghai as a nancial hub in the coming

    years based on data which shows that theBombay Stock Exchanges main index

    signicantly outperformed the Shanghai

    Stock Exchanges main index in terms of

    growth in the past decade.

    The Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE)

    Sensex grew by 249 percent over the

    last 10 years, while the Shanghai Stock

    Exchange (SSE) Composite Index

    managed 140 percent growth. This is

    more remarkable given the Shanghai

    market has the advantage of a fixed

    population access; Chinese nationals can

    only invest in the Shanghai or Shenzhen

    exchanges and require special permission

    to acquire stocks from overseas. Indians

    meanwhile are free to invest where they

    choose, however increasing amounts

    of foreign capital and returning Indian

    investment are now owing back to India

    (the Shanghai Stock Exchange places

    limitations on foreign investment with a

    only 79 foreign institutions currently able

    to buy and sell A (locally priced) shares).

    Another inuence to the Chinese market

    has been increases often caused by

    government liquidity due to the stimulus

    plan. Speculations on bubbles are rampant

    when it comes to Chinas indexes, again

    a feature Indias exchange does not tend

    to have. Government interference in the

    Mumbai market is far more limited.

    The BSE traces its roots back to 1830,

    with its primary trading index, the Sensex,

    being first compiled in 1986 with a

    base level of 100. The BSE is now the

    largest exchange in South Asia and the

    12th largest globally with an estimated

    market capitalization of US$1.03 trillion

    in June 2009. There are over 4,o00 listed

    companies on the exchange. In contrast,

    the SSE was only reformed in 1990 and

    lists some 900 companies. It is the sixth

    largest exchange in the world with a

    market capitalization of US$2.07 trillion,

    but is dominated by government-owned

    companies and is not fully open to foreign

    investors. Shanghais primary index, the

    SSE Composite IX was formed in 1991

    with a base value of 100.

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    Factories must either relocateelsewhere in Asia or remodel tosell to ChinaThe trade processing industry in China,

    traditionally concentrated in the Pearl

    River Delta region, is becoming extinct,

    and businesses urgently need to reinvent

    their business models, according to

    Thomas Chan, the director of Hong Kong

    Polytechnic University.

    Chan, who is also the head of the China

    Business Center, made his comments in the

    South China Morning Post in November.

    Much of Chinas trade processing is

    invested in by Hong Kong and Taiwanese

    factories. Stating that China had lost its

    long term, low cost advantages in labor,

    land and a low RMB exchange rate, Chan

    identied higher prices in raw materials,

    coupled with a reluctance by U.S. and

    European retailers to accept higher

    prices as sounding the death knell for the

    industry.

    Trade processing factories will be forced

    out of business within the next 12 months

    unless they change their business models

    and either migrate their work to other

    production bases such as Bangladesh,

    Cambodia, India or Vietnam, or change

    their China business model to sell to the

    booming domestic market, Chan said.

    The Chinese government also sees the

    trade processing industry as undesirable

    as it deems it outdated, and wants to

    shift the economy to a service based

    consumer driven model. Trade processing

    is typically labor intensive, energy

    wasteful, environmentally poor, and

    produces exports mainly by processing

    cheap imported materials. China wants

    to develop an added value economy and

    become innovative rather than rely on

    processing trade.

    Such business will flow instead into

    the emerging economies in Asia, and

    especially those that can provide low cost

    labor and land, and that have less stringent

    environmental and labor laws. Guangdong

    Province alone is home to some 38,000

    factories involved in the industry. Adding

    that many factory owners do not want

    to face the facts, Chan said that many

    factories would cease being nancially

    viable. Meanwhile, attempts by trade

    processing factories to relocate within

    China have largely been unsuccessful due

    to rapidly rising labor and land costs in

    other inland provinces.

    Hong Kong-based Li & Fung, the worlds

    largest sourcing and trade processing

    business, now sources and processes an

    increasing volume of its garments from

    elsewhere in Asia as it seeks to depend less

    on China for such activities. Matters to be

    aware of in trade processing are the costs:

    LaborChina is committed to doubling the

    national minimum wage within the next

    ve years, meaning an average 20 percent

    increase per annum on a national basis

    until 2015.

    Commodities pricesThese remain volatile and, in the case of

    cotton, subject to price spikes. However

    markets such as India are able to actively

    compete with China in terms of volume,

    delivery timescales, quality and nishing.

    Global Financial CrisisA potential second round nancial crisis,

    and one that may seriously affect China,

    is now more likely following the United

    States pumping US$600 billion into the

    markets last month. That will keep the

    RMB high against the dollar and increases

    the cost of Chinese export manufacturing.

    That being said, all is not doom and

    gloom. Mentioning that China would

    enter a golden age and a domestic

    consumption revolution, Chan indicated

    that China based trade processing

    factories should look at supplying the

    domestic market instead, and capitalize

    on the national policy to boost domestic

    expenditure. This was echoed by Morgan

    Stanley Chief Economist Wang Qing

    who stated that he expected Chinas total

    consumption to reach two-thirds that of

    the United States, or 12 percent of the

    global total, within the next decade.

    We are seeing a trend of nearly all LLJG

    operations (licensed foreign investment

    entities sub-contracted to Chinese

    factories, and unique to South China)

    now converting to WFOEs to allow them

    to sell to the Chinese domestic market. It

    is a growing trend and one that is rapidly

    increasing, said Alberto Vettoretti,

    managing partner in China for Dezan

    Shira & Associates based in Shenzhen.

    Our firm has an increasing number

    of China-based clients now expanding

    their operations into India and Vietnam

    while they also restructure their China

    operations. The trade processing industry

    is moving away from China to Southeast

    Asia, while China operations are

    restructuring to focus on domestic sales.

    Investors in the trade processing industry

    must act now to rethink their business

    model and either relocate their trade

    processing elements elsewhere, refocus

    on the China domestic market, or both. If

    they do not, they will face serious nancial

    difculties in the form of increased costs

    within the next two years if they continue

    to concentrate purely on China based

    export trade processing.

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    Indianizing Your Existing BusinessThe Business Environment

    As China begins to slow

    down, and the global

    supply chain shifts, India

    has just recorded GDP

    growth of 9 percent for

    the past quarter meaning it has overtaken

    China in terms of production. It is a trend

    that is likely to remain. As China-based

    businesses also start to gear up for the

    development of Chinas domestic market,

    and look to the hinterlands for growth,

    others are also eying the India market.

    Exporting a business into another country

    is never easy, and this is especially so inthe case of China and India. The countries

    have different administrative systems and

    do not necessarily agree to international

    conventions surrounding territories and

    descriptions. Then there are the immense

    language and written language issues. If

    these are not recognized, embarrassment

    and even criminal action can follow.

    As my practice Dezan Shira & Associates

    has found out, care needs to be paid

    when replanting a subsidiary root of abusiness from one country to another.

    Not all systems or points of reference are

    the same. Dezan Shira & Associates rst

    moved to establish operations in India

    four years ago (after 14 years extant only

    in China) and we found many surprising

    cases where what we thought we knew

    from a cultural perspective needed a

    rethink, and additional work and attention

    to new cultural detail. This article is

    designed to explain some of the practical

    differences in styles the China-basedexecutive may meet when asked to look

    at India.

    The Business

    EnvironmentA more demanding large projectenvironmentIndia isnt up to China standards when it

    comes to the development and execution

    of large-scale projects. Administrative

    delays, worker discipline and, above

    all, the interference of local politics can

    interfere with planning and execution.

    Problems, including the notorious

    infrastructure issues, need to be worked

    with and solutions found. Innovation

    and an ability to think outside the box

    are needed in India, whereas in China

    theyve tended to make the administration

    far easier. However, there are signs that

    China is not what is was increases in

    labor unrest, strikes (previously unheard

    of), and especially protectionism are

    growing in China. As was mentioned to

    me in Mumbai recently Im paid to sort

    these problems out, and thats what my

    MBA program was for. Is India morebig project awkward than China? Yes. Is

    it solvable? Also yes.

    A more welcoming socia lenvironmentWhile China is a generally friendly

    and welcoming place to be, for the

    small infrastructure it falls down when

    dealing with foreigners, and there are

    still barriers. Getting tickets, going out

    to Chinese events, finding out whats

    happening online, reading internationalnews, social networking, keeping in touch

    internationally with family and friends

    over the internet these are all awkward

    or have infrastructure banned in China.

    While one can get used to not having

    Facebook in China, if youre used to it

    overseas its a major hassle. India has

    both free media and social networking,

    and its usage of the English language just

    makes the social element of being in India

    that much more pleasant. Plus, if youre

    Japanese, Indians dont have endlessspats over wartime related events and

    territorial disputes over 60 years old that

    frequently mar the Japanese population in

    China. Neither, apart from Pakistan and

    China, does India have territorial disputes

    with anyone else. China is currently in

    disputes with India, Vietnam, Japan,

    Taiwan, and several other nations over the

    Spratly Islands, is threatening potential

    economic sanctions with Norway after

    the Nobel Peace prize was awarded to a

    Chinese reformist, and has a history ofencouraging its nationals to harass citizens

    of other nations when things go wrong

    such as throwing stones at the U.S. and

    British embassies over the NATO incident

    in Belgrade. China is more antagonistic,

    is quite prepared to occasionally indulge

    in harassment of foreign nationals, while

    Indians tend to argue among themselves

    rather than with foreigners.

    Senior managementIn China over the past 20 years, local

    management has had to be educated and

    developed to international standards

    to fulfill to the exacting standards of

    running an international business. Itemssuch as FCPA, SOX and other regulatory

    aspects creep in, and to many Chinese

    managers, these are still a bridge too far

    when added in to corporate culture and

    language issues. Twenty years ago, there

    were very few Chinese managers with

    any global experience, and today the

    number is still relatively small. Even the

    Chinese government has had to embark

    on a program of sending its top ofcials

    overseas on university courses. The

    upshot is that international managementoperating a business in China in most

    cases still has to take an active role in

    the daily operations of the business. In

    India, graduates and executives have long

    been educated overseas and are highly

    familiar with international standards.

    Indeed, many non-resident Indians are

    highly sought after by Indian companies

    back home as they seek to upgrade their

    domestic enterprises. With a profound

    knowledge of Indian culture, language

    capabilities, an overseas education andmanagerial experience, Indian executives

    tend to be far more advanced globally than

    their Chinese counterparts who tend to hit

    a glass ceiling. It means that an Indian

    manager running your Indian opera