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The Journal of theFamily History Society of Cheshire

Volume 46 June 2016 Issue No. 4ISSN 1460-0277

GROUP FOCUSMembers may attend the meetings of any of the Society’s groups.If travelling some distance to attend a particular talk, please check withthe FHSC website or the group leader in case of a last-minute change.

In this editionSillitoe Butchers and Cheshire Cheesemaking Book Reviews

The Battle of Jutland What the Papers Said in 1816Certificate Exchange Victorian Manchester Revelations

Summoned to Knutsford Court and more...

ALSAGER GROUP

The Alsager Group meetsat 7.30pm on the 3rd

Monday of the month atWesley Place

Methodist Church Hall,Lawton Road,Alsager, ST7 2AF

See page 64 for full details.

Future Alsager Group Meetings20th June: Baptist Church records18th July: Group visit to Anderton Boat LiftAugust: NO MEETING19th Sept: AGM followed by

Another Grand Day Out (video) andI Told You I Was Sick -

A Light-hearted Look at a Grave Subject

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The Family History Society of Cheshirewww.fhsc.org.uk

Location of Groups(see inside cover for contact details)

OS data © Crown copyright and database rights 2016

CHAIRMANDavid Smetham,Little TreesGawsworth RoadGawsworthMacclesfield SK11 9RATel: 01625 [email protected]

HONORARY SECRETARYHoward Martin2 Roxburgh CloseMacclesfield SK10 3QETel: 01625 [email protected]

HONORARYTREASURERVictoria Doran9 Birkett RoadWest KirbyWirral CH48 5HTTel: 0151 345 [email protected]

HONORARY EDITOR Rosie Rowley21 Lavenham CloseMacclesfield SK10 [email protected]

JOURNALDISTRIBUTIONJohn Lord17 Rowan DriveCheadle HulmeCheadle SK8 7DUTel: 0161 486 [email protected]

PUBLICITY OFFICERPeter Johnson57 Helston CloseBrookvaleRuncorn WA7 6AATel: 07769 [email protected]

OFFICERS OF THE SOCIETYMOBBERLEY RESEARCH CENTRE REPRESENTATIVEAlan E Jones7 Beaufort CloseAlderley Edge SK9 7HUTel: 01625 [email protected]

LIBRARIANJoan Irving62 Orme CrescentMacclesfield SK10 2HSTel: 01625 [email protected]

RESEARCH ADVISERRichard Corbett113 Saughall RoadChester CH1 5ETTel: 01244 [email protected]

MEMBERSHIP(RENEWALS & GIFT AID)Maurice Stokes19 North DriveHigh LeghKnutsford WA16 6LXTel: 01925 [email protected]

MEMBERSHIP(ENROLMENT)Sue McNulty59 CedarwayBollingtonMacclesfield SK10 5NR(new members only)[email protected]

PROJECTSADMINISTRATORLesley SmethamLittle TreesGawsworth RoadGawsworthMacclesfield SK11 9RATel: 01625 426173

ELECTRONIC PROJECTSPeter DavenportGlensideOne Oak LaneWilmslow SK9 2BLTel: 01625 [email protected]

CHESHIREBMD &UKBMDIan Hartas [email protected]

CD/FICHE SALES &FICHE LOAN SERVICELen Davenport10 Daleswood AvenueWhitefieldManchester M45 [email protected]

BOOK SALES & OUTSIDE EVENTSDavid Johnson91 Stretford HouseChapel LaneStretfordManchester M32 9AYTel: 0161 864 [email protected]

WEBMASTERAlan Bennett8 Barford DriveLowtonWarrington WA3 1DDTel: 0161 408 [email protected]

ALSAGER GROUPPeter Rugman157 Sandbach Road NorthAlsagerCheshire ST7 2AX.Tel: 01270 [email protected]

BEBINGTON GROUPBob Wright9 Lough GreenBebingtonWirral CH63 9NHTel: 0151 334 [email protected]

BIRKENHEAD GROUPDiane Robinson,2 Colville Road,Wallasey, CH44 2AS.Tel: 0151 639 [email protected]

BRAMHALL GROUPIan BickleyLumb CottageLumb LaneBramhallStockport SK7 2BATel: 0161 439 5021. [email protected]

CHESTER GROUPDavid GuytonSpringfield22 Lache LaneChester CH4 7LRTel: 01244 [email protected]

NORTHWICH GROUPDave Thomas1 Arley CourtWrenbury DriveNorthwich CW9 8RXTel:01606 [email protected]

RUNCORN GROUPLinda Finnigan10 Ashbourne AvenueRuncorn WA7 4XYTel: 01928 [email protected]

TAMESIDE GROUPGay Oliver26 Woodville DriveStalybridge SK15 3EATel: 0161 338 [email protected]

TARPORLEY GROUPJan Craig10 Dunns LaneAshton HayesChester CH3 8BUTel: 01829 [email protected]

WALLASEY GROUPSheila Hamilton10 Church GardensWallaseyCH44 [email protected]

WEST WIRRAL GROUPCarol Hunter8 Westbourne RoadWest KirbyWirral CH48 4DGTel: 0151 625 [email protected]

COMPUTER GROUPGeoff Johnson,Garth Nook, Well Lane,Little Budworth, Tarporley CW6 9DATel: 01829 [email protected]

CONGLETON GROUPDavid SmethamLittle TreesGawsworth RdGawsworthMacclesfield SK11 9RATel: 01625 [email protected]

CREWE GROUPMargaret Spate, FHSC Crewe GroupMunicipal Building(second floor)Earle StreetCrewe CW1 [email protected]

MACCLESFIELD GROUPJean Laidlaw47 Sycamore CrescentMacclesfield SK11 [email protected]

MIDDLESEX [email protected]

NANTWICH GROUPDavid Higham1 Heywoods RidgeAudlemCW3 0EFTel: 01270 [email protected]

GROUP CONTACTS

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CHESHIRE ANCESTOR

Registered Charity: 515168 Society website: www.fhsc.org.uk

Chairman’s Jottings 3Mobberley Family History

Research Centre News 4Crewe Family History Unit News 5Diary Dates 7Family History Events 8Family History Website News 11Book and CD Reviews 14Help Wanted or Offered 15Certificate Exchange 16Sillitoe Butchers and

Cheshire Cheesemaking 18Excommunicated! 21Genealogy: easy, or not? 22

The Battle of Jutland 24Who was Harriet Hope? 29William and Martha Darlington 31Summoned to Knutsford Court 36Membership Renewal CentreWhat the Papers Said 39Cheshire Archives WWI Absent

Voters List Project 46Victorian Manchester Revelations 47Net That Serf 49Group Events and Activities 64Membership 72The Society’s Family History

Research Centres 74

Cover picture: Wybunbury Church Tower, by the late Bill Moston.Due to the instability of the subsoil, the body of the church was rebuilt severaltimes and was demolished in the 1970s, leaving only the 15th century tower.See page 18 for the story of Thomas Sillitoe, butcher of Wybunbury.

CHESHIRE ANCESTOR is published in March, June, September and December (see last page). Theopinions expressed in this journal are those of individual authors and do not necessarily

represent the views of either the editor or the Society.All advertisements are commercial and not indicative of any endorsement by the Society.

No part of this journal may be reproduced in any form whatsoever without the prior written permission of the editor and, where applicable, named authors.

The Society accepts no responsibility for any loss suffered directly or indirectly by any readeror purchaser as a result of any advertisement or notice published in this Journal.

Please send items for possible publication to the editor by post or email (see last page).All items should include name & membership number or postal address of submitter.

Our society was founded in 1969—one of the first family history societies

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by Rosie Rowley“Everybody loves a letter” - according to the Jolly Postmanin the book by Allan and Janet Ahlberg. I used to lovehearing the 'plop' of a letter landing on the doormat, andopening it with eager anticipation. These days it's morelikely to be the 'ping' of an email arriving, but the thrill ofreceiving a message from someone is just the same.Unfortunately I have received very little correspondencesince becoming journal editor. I don't know whether this is

because I did such a good job of editing my first issue that no-one noticed therewas a new editor, or whether readers were simply stunned into silence!Whatever your opinion, please write and let me know.As usual, I am appealing for articles to put in the ANCESTOR; I have very fewin hand. If you feel you can't write an article, send me a letter or email aboutyour research to date, or a website or set of records in an archive you havefound useful, or an interesting ancestor you have researched. I'd also like toread about an ancestor you are stuck on - I can put it on the Help Wanted page,and you might receive a helpful reply which gets your research moving again.If you have an ancestor who had an interesting occupation, why not writesomething about it? I enjoyed Mike Sillitoe's article about Cheshire butchersand cheesemaking on page 18. There seems to be a remarkable number ofbutchers mentioned in this issue, so if your ancestor was a butcher, read on! Information about the Society's research centres at Crewe and Mobberley hasmoved from the back cover to pages 74 and 75, just before the end of thejournal. This enables us to print more about the facilities, holdings, openingtimes, and so on. If you haven't yet visited (or even if you have!), do go alongand see what they have to offer. I have just cancelled my subscription to TheGenealogist; I didn't use it very often and am happy to have a day out at mynearest centre, Mobberley, if I find I need to look something up on that website.As well as doing my research, it gives me an opportunity to chat with fellowfamily historians over a cup of tea.Finally, remember to look at the Diary Dates page to see where the Society willbe represented at family history fairs and other events. If you see us - we areusually on the North-West Group of Family History Societies stand - do comeand say hello. We love to meet other members, especially those who live toofar away to attend group meetings.

Editorial


Chairman’s Jottings

by David Smetham

In April I spent two interesting days at the Who Do YouThink You Are show, held at the NEC in Birmingham.There were 13,215 visitors over three days. FHSC wasrepresented courtesy of the North West Group (NWG) ofFamily History Societies, who paid for three tables for useby NWG members. Thanks also to Jennifer and StephenBenson (Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society) for

their management of the NWG tables. FHSC was represented by myself, GeoffJohnson and Lesley Smetham on two of the three days. We were there to talkwith family historians interested in Cheshire research. Thank you to those whotook the opportunity to stop and talk with us; we hope it was useful to you.

Sharon and Ian Hartas were at the show in their own right, busy helping familyhistorians with UKBMD and the associated resources.

The family history societies are key to this show, providing a tremendous rangeof experience to help family historians. There were plenty of lectures and freeaccess to the commercial websites. Those societies that could not be there wererepresented by the Federation of Family History Societies.

Some societies still hold fairs but the interest in these local fairs is waning. Thisyear the NWG put on a one-day family history conference in Liverpool.Perhaps this will be the way forward for society events, to satisfy the needs offamily historians across the North West. There is plenty of demand for helponce civil registration and censuses have been exhausted.

I have had a response about re-establishing a London Group and have beenexploring possibilities of locations for meetings. If you are interested inattending meetings in London with a Cheshire focus please contact me.


Mobberley Family History Research Centre News

by Alan E Jones

In the March issue of the CHESHIRE ANCESTOR, GeoffJohnson wrote about the 1939 Register and the valuableinformation it can provide for family historians (page 58).

Access to the 1939 Register is now available at both SocietyResearch Centres through our subscription to FindMyPast.That’s good news for members who don’t have their ownsubscription.

I have used it myself to find where some of my family members were living in1939, their occupations and confirmation of their dates of birth. If that sort ofinformation might be useful to you do come along to a Research Centre andsee what you can find, but be aware that details of persons still living, andmany of those who died after the 1980s, are obscured on the Register.

Incidentally, at Mobberley, FindMyPast and Ancestry are now available tosearch on all computers except one; so no more having to swap seats! Inaddition we have The Genealogist on one computer. Plus, we have upgradedour broadband connection and we are now on fibre optic broadband, so youshould be able to find your ancestors even faster!

Just a reminder that we are always pleased to have visits from Groups,although prior arrangements are necessary.

We were pleased to receive the following email from “a satisfied customer”,who recently visited our research centre at Mobberley for the first time andjoined the Society during her visit:

My daughter and I had a great time in Mobberley last week. Many thanks tothe lovely people who helped us, pointed out a great bakery and made us coffee!!

We also found a lot of helpful items in the memorial records.

Mrs. S.D.


Research Look Up ServiceWhat does the service provide? We will search our research resources forspecific information about one named person. For example: a search for abaptism or burial record or a search for a memorial inscription. We will alsocheck other indexes we hold. We cannot undertake in-depth family historyresearch. Members wanting that sort of service should seek the services of aprofessional genealogist. There is a charge of £5.00 per name for this servicewhich includes any copying and postal charges. The charge is not refundableif we are unable to provide the information. We will respond as quickly aspossible but please remember that the Research Centre is staffed byvolunteers who have other duties to perform.

Requests by post only.Please remember to include your membership number and contact details.Payment should be by cheque payable to FHS of Cheshire. Cheques fromoverseas members must be in sterling and drawn on a UK regulated bank.Requests should be posted to: Family History Society of Cheshire, Look upService, Mobberley Family History Research Centre, Rajar Building, TownLane, Mobberley, Cheshire, WA16 7ER.

Crewe Family History Unit News

By Diane DyerLibrarian, Crewe

After a move which began before Christmas 2015, we can finally say that wehave settled into our new premises. I do not know how we managed to fiteverything we have into the oldroom in Crewe Town Library!

We are now housed on thesecond floor of The MunicipalBuildings, Crewe. Just sign in atreception on arrival: the moreenergetic can take the stairs (justkeep turning left till you findour door), or take the lift and weare on your immediate left.


We have three large spacious rooms, and one of these, which we call theReading Room, has a double aspect which provides a great deal of natural light,making reading much easier on the eyes. The majority of books can beborrowed and taken home. The middle room, which could be described as‘The Hub’ contains four computers with Internet access including FindMyPast,Ancestry and The Genealogist; microfiche and microfilm readers are availablefor Monumental Inscriptions and Parish Records.

Last but not least, we have a room dedicated to Crewe and District LocalHistory Association - items that have been donated that have a connection toCrewe and its district. These include photographs of street scenes, people thathave lived or worked in the area, school programmes, theatre productions,maps, plans, events, etc. All very useful for family and local historians alike.This room also contains South East Cheshire Study Unit Archive which wasoriginally housed in Manchester Metropolitan University Alsager Campus.

As advertised, we are open Monday and Tuesday, and the occasional Saturday,but could be open more often if volunteers came forward for the other days ofthe week. Training will be given - you will not be thrown in at the deep end.

Updated library lists for all three collections will soon be available to downloadfrom the Crewe Family History Unit page of the FHSC website. Go to the page,click on holdings and then choose the list you wish to view.

We hope to see you soon.


For Group meeting dates, see the Groups pages at the end of this issue.For changes and up-to-date news check the website www.fhsc.org.uk

15th Jul Final copy date for CHESHIRE ANCESTOR, September issue.24th Jul FHSC Executive Committee meeting, Mobberley, 2.00pm.8th Oct Border History Fair, Congleton Town Hall, 9.30am-2.00pm

The Society will be represented at this event.15th Oct Final copy date for CHESHIRE ANCESTOR, December issue.30th Oct FHSC Executive Committee meeting, Mobberley, 2.00pm.Those members who do not have access to the Internet should contact theirlocal or affiliated Group for up-to-date information about meetings, etc.Contact details for all Groups are inside the back cover.

Diary Dates

Good Home Wantedfor a Collection of Old Photographs and Postcards

I’m trying to find a loving home for a collection of photographs and postcardsfrom my late aunt’s family.Hugh James BUCKLEY b.1863 Cheshire, and Annie Blanche BREEZE b.1871Talke, Staffs, had twelve children, of which Arthur BUCKLEY b.1889Macclesfield, Cheshire, was the eldest. Arthur married Hannah MOBLEYb.1890 Talke, Staffs in 1923 in Newcastle-under-Lyme, and they had onedaughter who was my aunt, Beryl BUCKLEY, b.1924 Newcastle-under-Lyme.The collection includes family photos and postcard correspondence betweenthe siblings and cousins. They mainly date between 1900 and 1920 and are afascinating snapshot of a time when snail mail was the only way to keep intouch. For example:Postcard dated July 1909. Dear Annie, shall be pleased to meet you a week onSunday, if you will write and let me know what time you will be at the Queens I willmeet you. Fndest love and kisses Lily XXX.Postcard photo titled Talke & Butt Lane, Coronation Bonfire June 1911Postcard dated Jan 2nd 1913 Dear Nell, flashlight photograph taken at the NewYears Eve Ball, after singing Auld Lang Syne a few minutes after twelve. Can youfind me. Love to all from Arthur X.If this sounds like your family and you would be interested in being thecustodian of a collection from the past, please contactFiona Oakley, [email protected](Reproduced by permission of The Birmingham & Midland Society for Genealogy & Heraldry.)


Family History Events

UK National Somme Centenary CommemorationsFri 1st July: Manchester Cenotaph Service - City Centre Parade

Cathedral Remembrance Service relayed on Exchange Square large screen7.30pm free concert in Heaton Park (booking required)

4pm-7pm Fri 1st July and 11am-4pm Sat 2nd July:Heaton Park Experience Field - free WWI experts & activities

www.manchester.gov.uk/somme100

Yorkshire Family History Fair10.00am - 4.30pm Saturday 2nd July 2016

The Knavesmire Exhibition Centre, The Racecourse, York YO23 1EXAdmission: Adults £4.80 (online earlybird offer buy one, get one free)

Children under 14 FREE - over 70 exhibitors on two floors (lifts available)Free talks throughout the day on the mezzanine floor

http://yorkshirefamilyhistoryfair.com/

Guild of One-Name Studies Seminar:Creating and Developing your ONS Website (open to non-members)

9.30am - 4.45pm Saturday 9th July 2016The Beauchamp College, Ridge Way, Oadby LE2 5TP

£18 incl refreshments and buffet lunch - booking essentialhttp://one-name.org/seminar_2016jul_oadby/

Guild Help Desk: 0800 011 2182

For news of family history events, see the online calendarhttp://geneva.weald.org.uk/

Family Historian Tutorial Day10.30am - 4.00pm Monday 25th July 2016

Waterton Park Hotel and Walton Hall, near Wakefield WF2 6PWwith Genealogy Tutor Jackie Depelle

£45 per person including refreshments and buffet lunchBooking essential - Free car parking - Convenient for M1/M62

http://yourfairladies.ning.com/


Family Historian Users’ Get Together Day10.30am - 3.30pm Tuesday 26th July 2016

Outwood Memorial Hall, near Wakefield WF1 2NEAsk questions, share your experience, give advice

or just sit back, watch and listen. £17/13 per person including tea and coffee

Booking essential - Free car parking - Convenient for M1/M62http://yourfairladies.ning.com/

Jackie Depelle: [email protected]

Chesterfield & District FHS Family History and Craft Fair10.00am - 4.00pm Saturday 27th August 2016

Outwood Academy (formerly Newbold Community School),Highfield Lane, Newbold, Chesterfield S41 8BA

Admission £1 (incl free raffle ticket) - Refreshments - Stands - Talkshttp://www.cadfhs.org.uk/2016Fair.html

Contact: [email protected]

Society of Genealogists Family History Getaway:Victorian London Family & Social History (open to non-members)

10.30am - 5pm Monday 5th - Friday 9th September 2016SoG, 14 Charterhouse Buildings, Goswell Road, London EC1M 7BA

£220 incl refreshments, sandwich lunch and use of SoG libraryBooking essential - accommodation not included

http://www.sog.org.uk/books-courses/events-courses/family-history-getaway-victorian-london-family-social-history

Lori Weinstein (Events co-ordinator): (020) 7553 3290 [email protected]

Palaeography at The Borthwick10.30am - 4.30pm Saturday 10th September 2016

The Borthwick Institute for ArchivesUniversity of York, Heslington, York YO10 5DD

Tutor: Gary Brannan, archivist and medieval administration tutor£20 per person

Booking essential - onsite cafe available for purchase of lunchhttp://yourfairladies.ning.com/

Jackie Depelle: [email protected]


ST.MARY’S CHURCH

THE PARISH OF NETHER ALDERLEY & GREAT WARFORDSK10 4TW

FAMILY HISTORY WEEKENDWITH

LOCAL WORLD WAR I DISPLAY

Saturday 18th September 2016 10.30am – 5.00pmSunday 19th September 2016 11.30am – 5.00pm

St. Mary’s 14th c church has a wealth of history!Stanley Mausoleum also open

Guided tours available

Light Refreshments available throughout the dayAmple free parking (on field)

Family History RecordsIncluding St. Mary’s BMD records and

two very early census records of 1811 and 1821.Parish Records dating back to 1629 available for sale on CD.

For further information, contact: [email protected]

www.stmarysalderley.comwww.warfordhistory.co.uk

Border History Fair 20169.30am - 2.00pm Saturday 8th October 2016

Congleton Town Hall, High Street, Congleton, CW12 1BNAdmission £1 - Bus Station and Parking nearby

Stands covering south Cheshire/north Staffordshire areasThe FHSC will be at this event - come along and say hello!

www.bmsgh.org/BorderHistory


Family History Website News

Reel Streets - Film Locationswww.reelstreets.com

An entertaining way to pass a few hours, looking at stills and clips fromfilms (dating back to the 1920s) to see if you can identify the locations. Somestills have ‘now’ photos, and you are invited to send in your comments,photos, and stills showing actors in real streets from any film or TV series.Cheshire locations include Macclesfield (So Well Remembered), Stockportand Stalybridge (Yanks), New Brighton, Wallasey and other locations on theWirral (The Magnet).

WWI 1916 Battle of Jutlandhttp://jutland.org.uk/

The National Museum of the Royal Navy (NMRN) has a website for thosewho participated in the Battle of Jutland (31st May - 1st June 1916). Use theinteractive map to search for people by name or location, using modern or1920s maps, and add photos and information to the record for your ancestor.

Records of London’s Livery Companieswww.londonroll.org

A searchable, free database containing records of apprentices and freemenin the City of London livery companies between 1400 and 1900. Searches canbe made by surname or place. Details include date, length of apprenticeship,father’s name, and master’s name and occupation.Worth exploring if you have London ancestors.

Family Historian Mailing Lists and User Forumwww.fhug.org.uk

For users of the Family Historian program, the Family Historian User Group(FHUG) website provides access to mailing lists, a knowledge base, and auser forum. The knowledge base includes information about transferringyour data from several popular family history programs.If you can’t find the answer to your question in the knowledge base, registerwith the forum and post your question there; someone out of the hundredsof experienced users is sure to be able to help you.


Online Civil Registration Tutorialswww.ukbmd.org.uk/tutorials

Ian Hartas, author and manager of the local birth marriage and death civilregistration index websites (ukbmd), has recorded a series of video tutorialsto enable family historians to learn about and get the most out of the ukbmdwebsites. Each tutorial lasts for about five to ten minutes, and can be pausedat any time so you can try out your own search while following Ian’sinstructions in the tutorial.

Find My Past

Irish Catholic Parish RegistersNow available are 10 million Irish Catholic Parish Registers, covering over200 years from 1671 to 1900 and over 1,000 parishes. FMP has worked totranscribe the National Library of Ireland’s online image collection of 3,500baptism and marriage registers. (See article in Net That Serf).

Ireland 1916: Easter Rising: www.findmypast.co.uk/easter-risingThese records, just released from The National Archives, are now online.

Irish Quaker recordsFMP have released over 1.2 million records in the first phase of a project toput all surviving Irish Quaker records online. There are now only 1600Quakers in Ireland, according to the official Quakers in Ireland website(https://quakers-in-ireland.ie/), but at the time of the potato famine in 1845-48there were 3000 (out of a population of 8.5 million).

Norfolk Parish RegistersApparently 4.5 million records recently introduced. Get there by using theA-Z index and searching for Norfolk:http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/norfolk-parish-registers-browseThere’s doubt about the extent of coverage, but there is a good and usefullist of the parishes covered, with numbers of records, atwww.findmypast.co.uk/articles/norfolk-parish-lists

Royal Navy pension records onlineFMP have uploaded more than 900,000 Royal Navy and Royal Marinepension records from 1704 to 1919.


Ancestry

To find out what’s new at Ancestry, go to www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/recent-collectionsNew AdditionsUK British Army and Navy Birth, Marriage & Death Records, 1730-1960UK Registers of Births, Marriages & Deaths at Sea, 1844-1890UK Registers of Births, Marriages & Deaths from British Consulates, 1810-1968UpdatedScottish Probate Calendar, 1876 – 1936.Australian Electoral Rolls 1903-1980Mexico, Select Marriages Index, 1556-1989Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930Argentina, Select Baptisms Index, 1642-1912UK Prison Hulk Records 1802-1849

Australia

Tasmanian Births, Deaths and Marriages 1803-1933:www.linc.tas.gov.au/archive-heritage/guides-records/Pages/BDM-registration.aspxNow online in conjunction with Family Search; the Archives Office ofTasmania has put the original images online. These original images ofbaptisms, births, marriages, deaths and burial records cover the period 1803-1933, and are available to view for FREE! There is an index available online,but it is not linked to the files; you must first look in the index and then goto the relevant volume. Alternatively, The Digger CDs (Tasmanian PioneerIndex 1803-1899 and Tasmanian Federation Index (currently out of print),can be used to find out the when and where, thus helping narrow downdates.

South Australian Maritime Museum: http://passengersinhistory.sa.gov.au This Australian government initiative has released a database that includesentries for 328,000 passengers and 20,000 voyages to South Australiabetween 1836 and 1961.

Public Record Office of Victoria (PROV)Has further expanded its records. There’s an extensive list at:http://prov.vic.gov.au/blog-news/personal-victorian-histories-revealed-in-newly-opened-archives


Book and CD Reviews

by Lyn McCulloch

Newly published items are welcomed for review; they should beon genealogical or Cheshire subjects. Please send to: LynMcCulloch, Barrymore, Marbury Road, Comberbach,Northwich, CW9 6AU. After review, books are placed in theLibrary at Mobberley Research Centre for use by members.Where stated, books may be purchased from the FHSCBookstall Manager, David Johnson (address inside frontcover).

Researching Adoption: An essential guide to tracing birth relatives andancestors by Karen Bali

This is another in the useful series of guides produced by theFamily History Partnership. If you were adopted or if you havean adoption somewhere in the family this guide will beinvaluable. Karen gives lots of sources and advice as to how toproceed. Having helped to guide several friends in this processmyself, I can heartily recommend this book.Published 2015 by The Family History Partnership. 48 pp.

Paperback. ISBN: 978 1 906280 52 9Available from the FHSC Bookstall, price: £4.95. By post: £6.50 Airmail: £10.25

Remember Then – Women’s memories of 1946-1969 and how to write your ownby Janet Few

Being a child of the 1950s I really enjoyed Janet’s latest offering.What a brilliant idea for a book! Janet gave a group of ladies alist of questions about growing up in the 50s and 60s and thencollated their answers to produce this book. She even suppliesthe questions so that we can do the same, should we wish to.Topics such as games at school, sweets, clothes, parties andholidays are covered. There are plenty of illustrations whichalso bring back memories. Great fun!

Published 2016 by The Family History Partnership. 246 pp. PaperbackISBN: 978 1 906280 53 6Available from the FHSC Bookstall, price: £12.95. By post: £16 Airmail: £23.50


GEORGE NIXON SMITH

Has any member of the FHSC researched the family of John SMITH c1777 -1854 born near Liverpool Lancashire, a hatter, and Ann/Nancy NIXON 1782 –1874 the daughter of Ann and George NIXON of Macclesfield? John and NancySMITH lived in Green Street, Macclesfield, and were buried at Christ Church.Their children included George Nixon SMITH, baptised 1819 at St Michael’sChurch, Macclesfield.

Nancy had a cousin, also called Ann NIXON, born in Rainow, the daughter ofWilliam NIXON. She also married a man named John SMITH, a farmer ofBosden (Hazel Grove); their children were baptised in Rainow.

A George Nixon SMITH born 1819 in Macclesfield came to South Australiac.1851 and died here in 1865. I have found him in the 1841 Census inMacclesfield but not again. He might be our ancestor but we have few clues.Any help would be appreciated.

Shannon [email protected]

Ed. - The Macclesfield Christ Church Data CD (available from the FHSC websiteMacclesfield pages, price £10+P&P) includes full indexes to parish registers, a registerof burial plot purchases, andsome photos and documentsrelating to Christ Church andChrist Church School.

The burial plot register statesthat John Smith purchased aburial plot at Christ Church on11th June 1801, price £2 2s; hisdaughter Maria (Moriah) wasburied there on 12th July 1801,aged 1 year 7 weeks.

The gravestone is one of the fewthat remain visible after part ofthe grounds were made into acar park in the 1960s.

Help Wanted or Offered


by Jean Jones

This service enables members to share unwanted certificates that they have purchased.Members can obtain a copy of a certificate by sending your name, membership number,and identifying the required certificate from the published list: by email [email protected] or by post (include a donation to FHSC of at least 50p tocover copying costs for each item, plus a stamped self-addressed envelope) to Jean Jones,2 Lytham Rd., Ashton in Makerfield, Wigan WN4 9RU. Unwanted certificates shouldbe sent to me at the above address.Please ensure you use the correct postage rate for the envelope size and weight. If indoubt, please ask at your local Post Office.Thank you for donating unwanted certificates to the FHSC. Certificates will be listedin the Cheshire Ancestor as soon as possible after receipt.

Certificate type: B= birth; M=marriage; D=death

Certificate Exchange

ASPINALL Mary E B 1855 Feb 6 To John & Ellen formerly Ambrose Litherland LAN.

BAILEY Harriet J M 1868 Sep 14 To William Jackson. d/o BarnabasBailey Fradswell STS.

CARTWRIGHT Abel D 1868 Mar 11 Age 72 yrs. John Haigh present Golcar YRK.

DAVENPORT John D 1877 Dec 17 Age 81 yrs. Alan Davenport sonpresent

Church HulmeCHS.

DERBYSHIRE Sarah A D 1902 Mar 10 Age 38 yrs. wife of George Derbyshire Stockport LAN.

HARRIS James M 1880 Dec 22 To Elizabeth Neden. s/o John Harris Chorlton LAN.

HILL Peter W M 1975 Jun 28 To Beverley A Hudson. s/o Thomas WHill Coalville LEI.

HUDSON Beverley A M 1975 Jun 28 To Peter W Hill. d/o Derek Hudson Coalville LEI.

HUDSON Miles M M 1996 Aug 31 To Stephanie J Taylor. s/o John AHudson. Packington LEI.

HUMPHREYS William B 1886 Mar 4 To Morris & Jane late Hughes formerlyWilliams

TranmereCHS.

JACKSON William M 1868 Sep 14 To Harriet Bailey. s/o Thomas Jackson Fradswell STS.


JACKSON William M 1869 Oct 17 To Mary Starkey. s/o James Jackson W Bromwich STS.

JACKSON William M 1869 Oct 17 To Mary Starkey. s/o James Jackson W Bromwich STS.

JOHNSON George H M 1887 Aug 29 To Ann E Tapp. s/o Samuel Johnson Potterspury NTH.

JOHNSON Sarah M 1891 May 19 To Edward Lines. d/o unknown. Potterspury NTH.

LEECH Harriet J M 1866 Dec 1 To Robert Wilde. d/o James Leech,dec.

Ashton-u-LyneCHS

LINES Edward M 1891 May 19 To Sarah Johnson. s/o William Linesdec. Potterspury NTH.

METCALFE Mary A D 1908 Oct 26 Age 83 yrs. Widow of AlexanderMetcalfe Grassington YRK.

MORTON Frederick W M 1944 Nov 30 To Betty Scott. s/o Frederick WMorton Sheffield YRK.

NEDEN Elizabeth M 1880 Dec 22 To James Harris. d/o John Neden. Chorlton LAN.

PEACOCK George H B 1877 Jul 18 To William & Elizabeth formerlyCheesebrough

MiddlesbroughYRK.

SCOTT Betty M 1944 Nov 30 To Frederick W Morton. d/o Joseph EScott Sheffield YRK.

STARKEY Mary M 1869 Oct 17 To William Jackson. d/o WilliamStarkey W Bromwich STS.

TAPP Ann E M 1887 Aug 29 To George H Johnson. d/o Levi Tapp. Potterspury NTH.

TAYLOR Stephanie J M 1996 Aug 31 To Miles M Hudson. d/o Michael JTaylor. Packington LEI.

WILDE Bertha B 1879 May 20 To Robert & Harriet J formerly Leech Dukinfield CHS.

WILDE Robert M 1866 Dec 1 To Harriet J Leech. s/o SamuelWilde

Ashton-u-LyneCHS

WILLIAMSON Mary A B 1847 Jan 7 To John & Elizabeth formerlyWithington. Ardwick LAN.

WILLIAMSON Sar. Ann D 1845 Nov 20 Age 62 yrs.Widow of SamuelWilliamson. Salford LAN.

WILLIAMSON Thomas D 1861 Jul 6 Age 18 days son of Luke Williamson Pendleton LAN.

WILLIAMSON Mary D 1893 May 7 Age 44 yrs. Widow of SamuelWilliamson Manchester LAN.


by Mike Sillitoe

My seven times great-grandfather, Thomas SILLITOE, was a butcher inWybunbury, near Nantwich, in the 17th century. He was the first of a long lineof butchers in the SILLITOE family, according to the records. His occupationinterested me, and my research into the trade led me to explore the backgroundto the connected dairy farming trade in Cheshire.

The earliest record of Thomas in the Wybunbury Parish Registers is the baptismof a son, also called Thomas and probably his first son, on 3rd May 1683. Theregisters for the parish do extend back for more than another 100 years.However, there’s no record of his own baptism or a marriage to his wife Mary,who is named in later records, either in Wybunbury or elsewhere in Cheshire;presumably they moved into the area from another county. The entry in the Wybunbury Parish Register for the burial of the elder ThomasSILLITOE on 5th February 1710 (below) provided evidence of his occupation.

The butcher’s trade at this time was a very messy one, existing as it did wellbefore the emergence of modern Health & Safety legislation! Indeed, not onlywould it be very messy, but also very smelly. You would be very close to thetruth if you called it a shambles. The word shambles originally referred to thebutchers’ benches in the marketplace, where the butchers would both slaughterthe animals and sell the meat. I don’t know whether Thomas traded only inWybunbury, but it seems likely that he or subsequent generations would havehad a stall in nearby Nantwich market. It’s also very likely that Thomas wasinvolved with cattle, as it was during his lifetime that dairy farming, and inparticular cheese-making, expanded significantly in Cheshire. Indeed, it maybe that the increased trade was what attracted him and his wife to the county.

Cheshire CheeseCheese production in Cheshire actually goes back a long way. It’s thought thatthe Romans introduced cheese into the area through their settlement in Chester,although they didn’t invent cheese – that goes back even further and to the

Sillitoe Butchers and Cheshire Cheesemaking


Middle East. The catalyst for Cheshire’s cheese expansion in the 17th centurywas its trade with London. Before about 1650, London got most of its cheesefrom Suffolk and a big part of that market was to supply the Royal Navy. Anoutbreak of cattle disease in Suffolk, together with floods at about the sametime, caused an interruption to the supply and doubled the prices.Additionally, the quality of Suffolk cheese had been falling due to London’sincreasing demand for butter, which in turn meant that much of the milk beingused for cheese-making was being skimmed. This practice lowered the qualityof the cheese still further.

The high quality of Cheshire cheese was already known in London; Cheshire’strade with the capital started to expand. The roads were poor in the 17thCentury and most of the trade went by sea. Chester was the main port on theRiver Dee in the days before the river silted up. The journey would have takenabout nine days in good conditions, but trips were very often longer in badweather.

Demand from London grew rapidly and farmers needed more cows, which inturn created a need for more workers. Some of those workers wouldundoubtedly have been the drovers who brought the cattle into Cheshire fromother parts of the UK and then stayed. This expansion of dairy farmingtherefore seems very likely to be what brought Thomas and his wife Mary tothe village of Wybunbury sometime before 1683. Dairy herds in the whole ofthe county are understood to have doubled to some 20,000 between the years1650 and 1690.

At the risk of stating the obvious, there are two points which perhaps shouldbe mentioned here. Firstly, dairy cattle are not primarily destined for thebutcher’s trade! Nevertheless, breeding cattle leads to calves and the male onesat least would be used for meat, together with other animals that farmers wouldrear. Secondly, a publication from as long ago as 1616, Camden’s Brittania, ismost complimentary about the role of Cheshire cheese. It also acknowledgesthe significant role of women in the dairy and cheese-making trade, so Marytoo would have found opportunities. The publication’s 1637 edition states,with reference to Cheshire:

The grasse and fodder there is of that goodness and virtue that the cheeses beemade heere in great number of a most pleasing and delicate taste, such as allEngland againe affordeth not the like; no, though the best dairy women otherwiseand skillfulest in cheesemaking be had from hence.


The Cheshire cheese trade continued to develop, although not without its ownproblems. Between 1689 and 1713 a long war with France meant that trade hadto go by land to London, due to the risk of attack at sea. This was considerablymore expensive – the volume which could be carried on a horse-drawn cartwas much smaller than could be carried on a ship and the roads were poor.Trade slowed as a result, but at the end of this war the navy only boughtCheshire cheese and London became Cheshire’s major market.Returning to my ancestors: Thomas and Mary SILLITOE of Wybunbury hadfive children - Thomas, baptised 1683; Mary, baptised 1685; a second son namedThomas, baptised 1688, after the first Thomas died earlier that year; Ann,baptised 1693, and Richard, baptised 1696. My line is through their youngestson Richard, also a butcher, who moved from Wybunbury to nearbyWalgherton. Subsequent descendants of Richard were also butchers, movingto Audlem and then to Liverpool. My most recent butcher ancestor, Aaron, isrecorded as having a stall on St John’s Market in Liverpool back in 1841. Thatends my own direct connection with the trade, but at least two of Aaron’s sonscarried the butcher’s trade forward into the 20th Century in Liverpool and alsoopened at least one shop on the Wirral, at West Kirby. I’ve yet to research theselater descendants, but if anyone has any knowledge or indeed photographs ofany SILLITOE Butcher Shops, I’d love to hear from them.Hygiene in the butcher’s trade has of course improved over the centuries sincethose days of the shambles. Markets moved undercover and then refrigerationarrived in the 19th Century. The latter broke the link between butchering themeat, which could be carried out separately in the slaughterhouse, and sellingit on the market stall or in a shop.The butcher’s trade remains an important occupation to this day. It might notbe as glamorous a profession as some, but at least I or my ancestors appear tobe in good company. Some readers may recall Carol Vorderman’s episode ofWho Do You Think You Are? Her great-grandfather was a successful butcherfrom Prestatyn, North Wales, who exported Welsh lamb to Liverpool by boat.My ancestors weren’t as wealthy as him, but prospered nevertheless.

Making Sense of the Census!Years ago, before the census was online, I found an ancestor on the censusfiche in the local library. He was listed as a Public Nuisance ... obviously oneof my family! Noticing a ‘+’ sign at the end of the line I asked the librarianwhat it meant; she explained that the ‘+’ meant that there was moreinformation about his occupation on the original. So I looked at the microfilmversion and, sure enough, it said Public Nuisance and Sanitation Worker.Eric Millward, via the Rootsweb Cheshire mailing list


by Joan Irving

Church Courts could deliver few forms of punishment – they were not entitledto harm the body of any individual or fine them, though the bills for legalservices could be charged. Penance in the form of public humiliation was theusual punishment given. Excommunication had two levels – the lesser levelwas where the excommunicate was excluded from divine service and thesacrament. At the greater level individuals were excluded from the companyof all Christians and anyone being in their company was reported to the Courtsand was also liable to be excommunicated.

This punishment did have legal implications in that an excommunicate couldnot act as a lawyer, witness or be executor to a will, could be refused a Christianburial and any will already made was invalid if the excommunicate died at thattime. Anyone who had been excommunicated had to have absolution to beaccepted back into the Church. This could take anything up to ten years. Thefinal sanction for those who still refused to co-operate was to be sent to a localgaol pending their remorse and absolution.

The Chester Diocesan Church Courts have several examples of parishionersexcommunicated. These court records have been indexed from 1560-1750 (ref:EDC5) and there is a copy of the index at Mobberley Research Centre. Theindex gives a brief summary of the cases brought before the courts.

Chester Diocese covered parishes in Cheshire, Lancashire and parts of what isnow Cumbria.

The following examples give an idea of the reasons why parishioners wereexcommunicated.

1630, Cheadle: John GIBBONS and others for detaining the salary of theparish clerk.

1631, Bowdon: Ralph MASSEY for contempt of court.1638, Sedberg: Henry WALKER and John CLARKE for contumacy

[non-appearance at court]1664, Bolton: William WALES for convening and holding conventicles

[forbidden religious meetings]1693, Rochdale: Edmund SCHOLEFIELD for non-payment of tithes

Excommunicated!


The following are examples of further court proceedings concerningexcommunicates.

1628, Knutsford: Thomas STUBBES was reported for attending the burial of hisnephew while standing excommunicate.

1632, Sefton: Certificate from Churchwardens stating Thurstan GARSTUMan excommunicate was buried secretly by night in the church.

Although the Court records can be a valuable source for family historians theycan be difficult to read and are often in Latin. However, they are certainly wortha look, not just for excommunicates but for a whole range of other moral issuesbrought before the courts involving parishioners.

Genealogy - Easy or Not?

By Eric Little

Thomas SNELSON, baptised 7th February 1836 at Astbury near Congleton -or Thomas SNELSON, baptised 7th February 1836 at Astbury near Congleton?!

They are indeed 2 different people. It makes one wonder whether theseSnelsons had the foresight to see future generations would become embroiledin genealogy, and had great senses of humour. Two brothers were responsibleand their families are on the SNELSON database (at http://snelson.org/)

Thomas c.1793, baker, husband of Anne FORD had a son Thomas (1) who livedto 1900. His brother Samuel c1797, grocer, husband of Bethnia PARTINGTONhad a son Thomas (2) who lived to 1860. The will of Thomas (1) is available onFindMyPast: in his will, he named not only all his children but also thehusbands of his daughters. If everyone left a will like this, genealogy would beboring!

This is the last Will and Testament of me Thomas SNELSON of Congleton inthe County of Chester Butcher… I appoint my son Thomas SNELSON mydaughter Frances Ellen SNELSON and my friend George SPROSTON ofCongleton aforesaid Magistrates Clerk (hereinafter called “my trustees”)… to bemy executors… I give devise and bequeath my leasehold property consisting of aButchers Shop with Slaughterhouse and stable attached and the dwellinghouse


occupied therewith in which I now reside a shop and bakehouse… and sevenmessuages or dwellinghouses all situate in Willow Street in Congleton aforesaid(the said shops and dwellinghouses adjoining each other and being numbers 2123 15 17 29 31 33 35 and 37 in Willow Street… and also two messuages ordwellinghouses situate and being numbers 38 and 40 in Thomas Street inCongleton… my trustees shall sell… and convert into money…. Pay my funeraland testamentary expenses and debts and shall then pay and divide the residue…to and among my twelve children namely

Elizabeth the widow of the late James HULMEthe said Thomas SNELSONSarah Ann the wife of William BERESFORDEmily Jane the wife of William DUTTONWilliam Alfred SNELSONthe said Frances Ellen SNELSONFrank Albert SNELSONRebecca the wife of Albert GREENWalter SNELSONGeorge Frederick SNELSONCharles Ernest SNELSONBeatrice Emma SNELSON

in equal shares…..

Will dated 11th January 1898 and witnessed by George PEDLEY, Butcher ofCongleton and John DISHLEY, Bootmaker of Congleton.Probate granted 30th June 1900 at Chester to John SNELSON and Frances EllenSNELSON.

I have been researching the family name SNELSON for over 20 years and likeothers of our ilk have become something of a fanatic.

If there are any SNELSONs out there then please contact me - my emailaddress is [email protected]

Did You Know...?The term cobbler originally applied only to those repairing footwear, ratherthan boot or shoemakers. The term for a shoemaker was more usuallycordwainer (taken from the Spanish word cordovan, a goatskin leatherproduced in Spain). Mechanised large scale production of shoes began in the1850's and resulted in the decline of the shoemaking craft.


The Battle of Jutland

by Rosie Rowley

The Battle of Jutland took place one hundred years ago on the 31st May and1st June 1916 in the North Sea, near the Jutland Peninsula on the coast ofDenmark. It was the largest naval battle of the Great War: 250 ships and 100,000men were involved in the battle, and the result was inconclusive, with bothBritain and Germany claiming victory. Fourteen British ships and elevenGerman ships were sunk, and nearly 13,000 lives were lost.

Among those who perished was TheodorePROCTER, of Macclesfield, Cheshire andHorwich, Lancashire. Theodore was a Stoker1st Class (No SS/115964) serving on HMSWarrior.

Theodore PROCTER was born 21st May 1895,the son of Ellen PROCTER, a silk picker. Ellenlater married James BIRCHALL, an ironfoundry labourer from Sandbach.

In 1901, six-year-old Theodore had taken thename of his stepfather and was living at 15Crompton Road, Macclesfield, with hismother; his stepfather was not at home oncensus night. Theodore was educated atCrompton Road Day School and attended theSpiritualist Free Church Sunday School,Cumberland Street.

By 1911, Theodore was living at 21 Higher Barn, Horwich, near Bolton,Lancashire, with his parents and half-sister Laura (7), and employed as a cottonpiecer. He later returned to Macclesfield, changed his name back to PROCTERand lived with his uncle and aunt, James and Ellen KIRK, of 17 Lyon Street,Macclesfield. Theodore worked for a time at Lower Heyes Mill, and wasworking for the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Company as a railwayengine cleaner when he joined the Navy. He served with the local TerritorialArmy some years before the outbreak of war.


Naval ServiceTheodore joined the Navy on 21st July 1914. On his Naval record sheet he isdescribed as 5 feet 7 inches tall, with a 35 inch chest, brown hair, hazel eyesand a fresh complexion. Theodore’s service record (below) shows his trainingand service as a Stoker – shovelling coal for the steamship’s boilers and possiblyalso learning to be a junior mechanic (artificer) in the engine room:

21 Jul 1914-4 Dec 1914: Stoker II – Vivid II (Stokers and Engine Room ArtificersSchool at Devonport)5 Dec 1914-24 Feb 1915: Stoker II – HMS Donegal25 Feb 1915-25 Jun 1915: Stoker II – HMS Hampshire26 Jun 1915-6 Jul 1915: Stoker II – Victory II (Shore-based training school)7 Jul 1915-17 Jul 1915: Stoker II – Vivid I (Seamanship, Signalling andTelegraphy School at Devonport)18 Jul 1915-1 Sep 1915: Stoker II – HMS Warrior2 Sep 1915-31 May 1916: Stoker I - HMS Warrior

Battle of JutlandTheodore was serving on HMS Warrior when it was attacked by six Germanwarships at the Battle of Jutland on 31st May 1916; it was only saved fromimmediate destruction by HMS Warspite coming to its aid. Warrior was hit byat least twenty shells which caused fires and heavy flooding, leading to the lossof 68 lives, although her engines continued running long enough to enable herto withdraw from the battle. She was taken in tow by HMS Engadinewho tookoff the 743 survivors before the Warrior sank.

Theodore’s death was reported in the Macclesfield Times of 16th June 1916:NAVAL ROLL OF HONOUR – A MACCLESFIELD STOKER – PERISHEDWITH THE “WARRIOR”Among the many brave fellows… who lost their lives… was Second-Class StokerTheodore Proctor, a Macclesfield man, whose parents now reside at Higher Barn,Horwich. For the greater part of his life Stoker Proctor had lived with his uncle andaunt, Mr and Mrs Kirk, Lyon Street, Macclesfield.Stoker Proctor was born in Macclesfield 21 years ago. He received his education atCrompton Road Day School and attended the Spiritualist Free Church Sunday School,Cumberland Street. Formerly he was employed at the Lower Heyes Mill, and by theLancashire and Yorkshire Railway Company, and was well-liked by his workmates.Some years ago, Stoker Proctor was a member of the local Territorials, and he joinedthe Navy two years ago….Deceased was the nephew of Mrs Barlow, Derby Road, Macclesfield, who has three sons“doing their bit”, namely Private Harold, 1/7th Cheshires (in Egypt); Private Ernest(in training at Oswestry); and Lewis (who is engaged on munitions work at Lincoln).


A description of the events leading to the sinking of HMS Warrior are relatedin the book The Fighting at Jutland: The Personal Experiences of Forty-Five Officersand Men of the British Fleet, edited by H W Fawcett and G W W Hooper,published by Macmillan & Co in 1921:

The following narrative, which is taken almost word for word from a personal journalof the Engineer Officer of the ship, describes the experiences of those stationed betweendecks in the “Warrior” as their ship, ”damaged, listing to starboard and in places onfire, raced over the spot where the Defence had been through the smoke cloud of theirflagship’s explosion”: —

“Just as I got through the armour door on the main deck, I was met by some otherpeople, including the Boatswain, running back, as they said we were being straddledby 11-inch shell, and they thought it wasn’t very healthy out there. As I turned back Iperceived that a shell had come in on the marines’ mess deck, from which I had come.A brown smoke was hanging about, and the men of the fire brigade were carrying awaythree or four poor fellows and laying them down, looking dazed and frightened. Itherefore went straight down to the port engine-room to see if anything had happenedthere. ‘M.’, the Senior Engineer Lieutenant, told me that they had heard an explosionoverhead, and some of the lights had gone out, but apparently there was no seriousdamage done below. Finding everything going splendidly down there, I decided toreturn to the starboard engine-room, and I looked into the Engineers’ office at the topof the ladder on the way. There, for the last time, I saw my Stoker Secretary sitting athis books as if nothing unusual were happening, but he pointed out to me that they hadhad a shell in a bit further forward, and going out on to the mess deck I found a greatgaping rent in the deck overhead, with the daylight falling weirdly through it.

However there was neither time nor temptation for speculation, and I hurried belowagain to the starboard engine-room. Shortly afterwards, at about 6.15, I heard atremendous explosion at the after end, a heavy jar went through the whole fabric, andmost of the lights went out. Immediately afterwards there was a heavy roar of waterand steam, and my impression was that we had been torpedoed. Several men camerunning forward from that end, one of them with blood streaming down his face. Inthat moment I realised fully what cold drawn funk is like. But I had to make a decision,and advancing towards the after end, I tried to gauge the extent of the damage. Theengines still went on running, which seemed to show that the cylinders had not beenhit, but in the dim uncertain light I perceived what appeared to be Niagara, at the afterend of the engine-room, though whether the sheet of water was rising up from below orpouring down from above I couldn’t be sure at the time. Anyhow, a blast of steam onmy face warned me that I hadn’t long to think about it, and I soon made up my mindthat no pumps could deal with the quantity of water that was coming in, and that theonly thing to do was to get the men out as quickly as possible.


Not knowing that the other engine-room also was damaged, I gave the order to openthe water-tight door on the mid-line bulkhead and to go through to the other side,intending to take charge and control the working of the department from there myself.But the door was screwed hard down and the sprocket chains were greasy, and it struckme that by the time the men had got it open and gone through, the water might be abovethe sill and would flood the other engine-room before they could get the door closedagain, so I ordered all hands up on deck at once. The artificers asked if they should easeor stop the engines, but I said ” No,” as I guessed that the Captain would want to keepgoing as long and as fast as possible, and the main steam valves could be shut off fromthe mess deck if necessary. At first the men didn’t know what to do as the ladders atthe after end were inaccessible, but 1 shouted to them to go up the midship ladder, andhustled all towards it in front of me. As soon as it appeared that they had all gone up,I followed them myself, but by that time ... it was pitch dark.

When I got out and looked round, the first thing I saw was a group of men behind theshelter of one of the after turrets trying tentatively to open a fire-main valve on theupper deck. Then I noticed that there were yellow flashes followed by angry reportscoming from some ships away on our beam, and shells were whizzing and screamingthrough the air just above my head, and I decided that this was no place for me. At allcosts I must get down to the port engine-room and take charge there, and to that end Imade my way to the main deck hatchway ; but before I could get half-way down it Iwas nearly choked with hot, stinging smoke, and had to retreat. I then went further aftand got down to the half-deck, which was partly wrecked, and tried to get through thearmour door to the mess deck, but with the same result. Through the smoke and flameI saw a brilliant display of fireworks, where the circuits were fusing in festoons ofelectric arcs. Finding this route hopeless, I went along the upper deck again and triedto reach the mess deck from the fore side, but here again any attempt to approach theburning compartment was completely frustrated.

I then endeavoured to collect my scattered wits with a view to putting out the fire, butI found that I had the greatest difficulty in getting my brain to work at all.... On suchoccasions when it is difficult to originate anything, evolutions rehearsed at drill workautomatically, and at this moment I found my subordinates readier than myself incarrying out measures that I had myself devised. By this time some of the forwardsection of the fire brigade had arrived —nearly the whole of the after section of thebrigade were knocked out in the burning compartment. It then occurred to me that Ihad better let the Captain know how things stood, and if possible get him tocommunicate with the port engine-room and tell them to keep the fire engines goingfull bore. As I got up to the conning tower I perceived that we were practically aloneon the sea, and steaming along at about 15 knots. It was now a little after half-past six,and for the next two hours we fought and struggled to put that fire out. It had got afirm hold in the gunnery office, where the papers, desks, and shelves burned fiercely


till the steel partitions were red hot, and the paint on the sides and the corticene on thedeck outside were all flaring. The heart of the fire was inside, round a corner where nohose could reach it, and to enter the compartment was like going into an oven, and yousimply could not get there. One of the most heart-rending experiences was when Ipassed along the half-deck on one occasion by the wrecked hatchway, and one poorfellow, who was lying there wounded, held out his arms to me and begged me to helphim out. But I dared not stop. We didn’t know when the ship might go down under us,and it was my job to keep her afloat if possible. So I had to pass on, hoping that someoneelse would give him a helping hand.

By this time volumes of steam were roaring out of the ventilators to the portengineroom, and the agonising conviction came over me that M. must be done for,since, as I told the Captain, nobody could be alive down there now. We had lifted someof the upper hatches, but before we could climb down to open the lower ones into theengine-room we were met with smoke and fire, and could not get near them. The steamfrom the engine-room also blew across the entrance to the mess deck, further impedingall access to the fire. In fact, we couldn’t get at the fire because of the steam from theengine-room, and we couldn’t get at the engine-room because of the fire, which wasbecoming a furnace, and at last I went to the Captain and asked permission to drawthe fires in the stokeholds and shut off the boilers from there. Even so, it was a longtime before we could put the fire under on the mess deck, and it was eventually checkedby a man climbing down the ship’s side and playing the hose in through the hole madeby the shell that had caused the fire! It was about 9 o’clock before we could lift one ofthe armoured hatches, and then, to our amazement, we heard people shouting. I rushedround to the engine-room ladder way, and there I found M. who had just been helpedout. I helped him along to the ward-room and put him in an armchair and gave himmy brandy flask, which he wanted badly, while he told his story.

The continuation of this extract, telling the story of M.’s escape from the engine-room, can be read on the Macclesfield Reflects website at

http://macclesfieldreflects.org.uk/1916/05/31/procter-theodore/

Another man with a Macclesfield connection who lost his life during the battleof Jutland was J.W.I. Jones, who is named on the Macclesfield Industrial Schoolwar memorial, but who has not yet been identified. If any reader knows thedate and place of birth, or the parents of J.W.I. Jones, please email details [email protected].

Many more Cheshire men lost their lives at the Battle of Jutland: informationabout them can be found using the National Royal Naval Museum’s interactivemap at nmrn.nautoguide.com


Who was Harriet Hope?

by Christine Northey née Hope

In the September 2015 CHESHIRE ANCESTOR I asked if anyone had anyknowledge of Harriet HOPE. Thomas HOPE married Ann KETTEL; of theirchildren (and there were many!), my twig descends from their unmarrieddaughter Martha (1805 - 1827) and her son George. Another child of Thomasand Ann HOPE, Joseph, married Martha HOUGH. Their son Charles marriedJane PLATT and they had two children, George (died an infant 1869 - 1870)and Harriet (1871 – 1953).

Harriet’s mother died soon after her daughter’s birth in 1873. Harriet then wentto live with her uncle, John BULLOCK, John’s wife Elizabeth being the sisterof Harriet’s late mother. Harriet's aunt died in 1909 and her uncle in 1924. By1935 Harriet was the proprietor of a small sweet shop at 42 Welsh Row(Johnsons Almanac), most likely with living accommodation above the shop.Harriet appears on the 1939 Register (FindMyPast) at the same address.

My question was, “Is the Harriet Hope Almshouse in Beam Street, Nantwich, namedafter my Harriet Hope?” I have discovered that the answer is yes!

As I live in Somerset I called on a friend of mine still living in the town forassistance. After much leg work and the assistance of the Nantwich LibraryLibrarian, she turned up a booklet written by Dr Francis BLACKLEY (aNantwich GP), in which Harriet HOPE is mentioned.

The booklet, titled “Almshouses of Nantwich 1995”, is well worth reading. Itdescribes the sorry state of some of the Almshouses, their fall into dilapidation,becoming unfit for habitation, the many meetings and decisions made over thefate of the dwellings. As the buildings were grade II listed and could not legallybe demolished, eventually the decision was made to dismantle the buildingsand rebuild them on their present site. Agreement was sanctioned by thevarious legal bodies.

Harriet HOPE died in 1953; her last will and testament is very interesting. Otherthan a few bequests, the bulk of her estate was to be used for the purpose ofacquiring a site for erecting small homes or flats for the use of the town poor.By 1974 the bequest from the estate had increased to £13,000; with a small loanfrom the Sir Edmund Wright Almshouse charity, and a grant under the housing


act of 1974, no further borrowing had to be made. We may never know, butit's possible that the Harriet Hope bequest prompted another look at the stateof the Almshouses.

Harriet Hope's executors were Thomas William HOPE (family member anddeceased by the time the Almshouse was built) and William H. HILL. Manypeople benefited from her generous bequests - I have listed them all. The namesthat, at the present time, I have been able to connect to the HOPE family treeare in bold, Harriet's close friends are in italics, and those whom I cannotidentify are in plain text.

Uncle Joseph HOPE, Cousins – Betsy HORTON – Jane HORTON- AdaLOWE – Ethel HOLLAND – Mrs Alice LAWTON – Charles HOPE – AlbertHOPE – Jo HOPE – Alan HOPE – Fred HOPE – Martha Ann HOPE – EmmaCHATWIN - Fanny WILLIAMSON – Alice SHENTON – MarthaWAINWRIGHT – Connie TOMKINSON - Polly JONES – Nancy SUTTON– Ethel WILLIAMS. Other names mentioned are: Clare SUTTON, LizzieWILLIAMSON, Ann LIGHTFOOT and Emma WESTWICK. A special mentionand a large (for its day) monetary bequest was to Doris WILLIAMS.

As well as those mentioned above, a few other minor bequests were made.Monies were also given to St Mary’s restoration fund as well as for the upkeepof the headstone of Harriet's Uncle John at All Saints Cemetery, on the Barony.Harriet is buried here and rests with her uncle and aunt.

Even though I am just old enough to have met Harriet, I don’t remember herand don’t even have any recollection of her being mentioned in my family; butI do remember the Almshouse being in a very poor state, and the rebuilding.After reading Harriet's complete will, I have the impression that she was a verynice, compassionate, caring woman, well-known and well-liked.

I consider up to the mid-1990s, or maybe a little beyond, most folk born in thearea, even if not a Dabber*, were related by birth or marriage. Even I am relatedto some of the very old well known Nantwich families – CADMAN (Dentist)CHATWIN (Confectioner), BROOMHALL (Butcher), and many, many more.If you have a link to Harriet HOPE please contact me and I will be happy toshare my new-found information with you.

*Dabber - a person from Nantwich: see http://dabbersnantwich.me.uk/dabber.htm

Ed.: More information about the Nantwich Almshouses can be found online atwww.nantwichalmshouses.org.uk


by Chester Guttridge

William DARLINGTON, born c.1841, was my great uncle by marriage; he wasthe husband of my mother's aunt Martha. Martha was born in 1847, the thirddaughter and fourth child of George and Rebecca WILLIAMSON, my great-grandparents. She spent the early years of her childhood at the White Lion, 8Milton Street, Chester and most of her life in other public houses, her fatherand later her husband being publicans.

Martha's next older sister, Ann - sometimes called Charlotte Ann - was thesubject of an earlier article (CHESHIRE ANCESTOR, March 2016). Ann, as the articlerecords, stood before the altar at St John the Baptist's Church, Chester, on themorning of Monday 21st November 1859, when she was only sixteen years oldand supporting a growing bulge of expectation. It is doubtful whether herfather accompanied her on that legitimising walk up the aisle. He certainlydidn't append his signature as a witness, and neither did Rebecca, her mother.That role fell to a John ROBERTSON and to Martha, then only twelve orthirteen years old. The only satisfaction for Ann's parents was that ThomasBENTLEY was making an honest woman of their daughter by marrying her,an important matter in 1859 and for over a century to come. One imagines itwas a quiet wedding, perhaps conducted in a side chapel, perhaps early in themorning. The marriage was a disaster, ending with the death of Thomas sevenyears later whilst in prison for stealing two two-foot rules.

Having seen the sorrow of the occasion and its consequences, Martha livedwith her parents until her marriage to William DARLINGTON at Birkenheadin 1871, when she was in her mid-twenties. The marriage produced twochildren: Charles Williamson, baptised at St Peter’s Church, Plemonstall on25th August 1872, and Mary Agnes, baptised at the same place almost fouryears later, on 23rd April 1876.

Martha's parents, George and Rebecca WILLIAMSON, moved to the Nag'sHead, Warrington Road, Bridge Trafford in the summer of 1862 when Georgebecame tenant and licensee, taking their three unmarried children, Martha,young George (my grandfather), and his younger brother John. Young Georgeand Martha gradually took over the daily operations at the Nag's Head as theirageing father slowed down.

William and Martha Darlington


Map of Bridge Trafford, 1908, from FHSC Cheshire 25” O.S. Maps CD

After his father’s death in 1876, George became the brewer and licensee andMartha ran the bar, the two activities being operated almost as separatebusinesses, financially at least. George sold his ale at market value to MrsDARLINGTON and received payment. Previously, ale delivered from the on-site brewery to the inn was described as 'for our cellars' but from 1872 deliverieswere logged as sales to Mrs DARLINGTON to 'put behind the bar'. It was notuntil I saw the 1881 census that I discovered that Mrs DARLINGTON was noneother than Martha, George having invariably referred to her in his sales bookas Mrs DARLINGTON. Such formality was surely unusual in those times.Perhaps it was done to emphasise the separate financial arrangements.Martha’s husband William was a butcher by profession and for some of thetime between 1872 and 1882, he was living four miles away at Foulk Stapleton,perhaps at his butchery, while his wife was at the Nag's Head.

“Furious Driving”In 1879, while Martha was running the bar, William, then aged 38, made thefirst of two appearances in courts of law, according to reports in the ChesterObserver. Headed FURIOUS DRIVING, the report of 4 October 1879 stated:

William DARLINGTON publican, of Trafford, was summoned for furiousdriving in Brook-street on the previous Saturday afternoon. InspectorFARRELL stated that about half-past four o'clock in the afternoon, he saw thedefendant driving the horse and trap in a most furious manner down Brook-street, and the horse and trap were within an ace of going into the Cottage Inn,as the horse got on the parapet close to that house and frightened a number of


people, who had to run for their lives.—In reply to the Mayor, the defendantsaid he had been accustomed to call at the Cottage Inn, as the landlord was afriend of his, and he "supposed that the horse wanted to call in then," but deniedthat he was furiously driving.—Mr.FARISH: I suppose the horse wanted toliquor up.—Defendant: No.—The defendant was fined 10s. and 15s. 6d costs.—Mr. FARISH: I wish to say that's not my verdict. I think the punishment oughtto be severer.

I cannot imagine Martha being anything but displeased and she probably madehis life unpleasant for a while. Doubtless, ribald laughter was heard in the Nag'sHead from time to time as customers reminded him of his reckless adventurein Brook Street. Ye Olde Cottage is now a substantial three-storey tavern.

Mollington BreweryMy grandfather, ‘young’ George, left the Nag's Head in 1882 to set up his ownbrewery in Mollington. His Nag's Head licence was transferred to William, whopurchased ale from the Mollington brewery, immediately demanding aconcessionary price and sometimes buying low quality, perhaps stale ordeteriorating ale. During the following three years he bought decreasingquantities and made his final purchase at the Nag's Head on 14th April 1885.The penny scraping, if such it was, had not succeeded and the DARLINGTONSleft the Nag's Head for a private address, first briefly at Tarvin, then in Octoberof that year at Little Sutton, from where they bought a quarter cask (72 pints)most months, presumably for private consumption.

In October 1887, William was again an innkeeper, this time at the Sportsman'sArms at Whitby, near Ellesmere Port. George again supplied him with mainlyhalf barrels of ale two or three times a month for a couple of years and thenonly intermittently until January 1891, when the DARLINGTONS finallyretired. The 1891 census finds them living in Church Road, Whitby.

Meat “unfit for human food”William's second offence was more serious and no laughing matter. He waslicensee of the Nag's Head at the time. The case was heard at BirkenheadBorough Police Court on Friday, 5 July 1883 and reported in the Chester Observerof 14 July that year.

Mr DARLINGTON, butcher and publican of Bridge Trafford, near Chester,was summoned for exposing for sale, at the Birkenhead Slaughterhouse, thecarcase of a cow which was unfit for human food. Mr SOLLY, deputy town-clerk, prosecuted. The evidence of Inspector GREGORY... that it was obviousto anybody that the cow had suffered from milk-fever, and sent for Dr. VACHER


medical officer of health ... [who was of the same opinion, said that] the meatwas very black and soft.

The defendant stated that he had sold the offal at Chester for 7s 6d. then admittedthat he had "killed the cow to save its life." They knew what that meant. ErnestBEER, butcher, of Watson-street, stated that the defendant had offered thecarcase to him for £8. but witness refused to buy it. For the defence, Mr J.STORRAR veterinary surgeon, Chester, stated that he had treated the cow formilk-fever, and told the defendant if she became worse he was to kill her. Heconsidered that the carcase of a cow which had milk-fever was fit for food, andthere was nothing in the medicine which he gave to make the meat unfit for food.He was in the habit of advising people in the circumstances of the defendant tokill their cows when suffering from milk-fever.

... One of the butchers in the slaughterhouse remarked at the time that "themeat was as black as his boots." Mr PRESTON said his only doubt was whetherhe should inflict a money penalty, but as he intended to it would be the heaviestin his power. The defendant must pay a fine of £20 and costs, or three months'imprisonment if he defaults.

William Darlington’s deathEleven years later, on 8th January 1894, William died at the age of 53, and wasinterred at Ellesmere Port. His In Memoriam card bears a poem:

A loving husband, a father dear, Is from us borne away,We hope once more to meet again, In realms of endless day.

After William's death, George invoiced his sister for ale as Mrs MarthaDARLINGTON which, although I believe is correct terminology, does seemunnecessarily formal between brother and sister.

Martha bought small quantities of ale occasionally from 1896 until March 1900while she was living at Oak Villa, Whitby. In May 1897 she bought an old caskfrom her brother for three shillings, for use as a water tub. One would havethought he might have given it to his sister.

From March 1907 Martha was living at The Hollies, 8 Hamilton Street, Hoole,again buying quarter casks of ale most months. Her widower brother John wasliving with her and, no doubt, consuming his share of the ale. Her last purchasewas of a half barrel on 29th February 1912. She died during the quarter endingJune 1912, aged 65. The DARLINGTONS had been valued customers fornineteen years and occasional buyers for a further sixteen years, thirty fiveyears altogether.


A Mortgage at 55 Years of AgeWhile at The Hollies, Martha, surprisingly for one her age, borrowed £225, atfour percent interest, from her brother George on 25th March 1902, mortgagedon two houses at Whitby Heath. Perhaps she needed cash for another purposeand mortgaging was a convenient way of offering security. Martha paid theinterest together with a tranche of capital each half year, finally repaying on4th January 1905. William, her late husband, had died eight years previouslyso any expenses arising from his death would be expected to have been settledyears before.

My cousin, Williamson Walter JONES, lived at the same 8 Hamilton Streetaddress in the interwar years with his mother, father and stepsisters, where Ivisited them many times during childhood. The connection may have beencoincidental but it is possible that John continued to live at the house for anumber of years after Martha's death until about the time my aunt metwidower Walter JONES whom she married in 1924. John died in 1923, but wassaid to be living in North Street, Chester, at the time.

Martha’s LifeSo, what can be said about Martha's life? In a single word, I suggest, busy. Shewas the daughter who stayed at home to help her mother, not marrying untilsome 25 years old and then soon finding herself back drawing drinks in theNag's Head, engaging in friendly chat with customers, serving food totravellers, supervising servants and generally running the domestic side of heryounger brother's busy tavern. Her life with William was not always close andshe had only two children. When husband and wife were living apart, oneimagines that he turned up from time to time at the Nag's Head, expecting afree drink and a hearty meal. She was 47 years old and had been married forsome 22 years when William died. After his death, she and her youngestbrother, widower John, made a life together for 18 years. I like to think of themsitting by the fire on a winter evening, reminiscing over a glass ofWILLIAMSON'S ale.

AcknowledgementsI gratefully acknowledge the contribution made by Mrs June Hibbert to thetelling of this story. She once again unearthed fascinating stories from theChester newspapers as well as dates of events in my ancestors' lives.My son, John, keeps my computer disciplined and acceptably submissive.


From the Chester Chronicle, Friday 2nd August 1816

CHESHIRE TO WITNOTICE IS HEREBY GIVENTo the several persons whose names are here underwritten, that unless they shall, beforethe rising of the first Court of the General Quarter Sessions of the Peace, to be holdenat Nether Knutsford, in and for the said county, on Tuesday the 15th day of Octobernext, shew sufficient cause to the contrary, the several recognizances entered into bythem for their appearance at the last General Quarter Session of the Peace, for the saidcounty, will be estreated with at further notice.

JOHN STEPHENSClerk of the Peace for the said County

William ELSBY, of Bradwell, servant £40William JOYNSON, of Bradwell, farmer £20John ALCOCK, of Bradwell, farmer £20Robert HAMLET, the younger, of Odd Rode, labourer £20Robert HAMLET, the elder, of Odd Rode, labourer £20Daniel GREY, of Betchton, miller £20Richard BATE, of Betchton, miller £20William WOOD, of Hassall, servant £40Thomas RATHBONE, of Sandbach, labourer £20George BUCKLEY, of Elton, servant £40Joseph LATHAM, of Smallwood, yeoman £40John BOSSON, of Odd Rode, servant £20John DAVIES, of Odd Rode, labourer £20Randle WILDING, of Sandbach, yeoman £40Thomas JONES, of Sandbach, cordwainer £20John JOHNSON, of Sandbach, inn-keeper £20Joseph BILLINGTON, of Coatbrooke, shop-keeper £40Richard HATTON, of Over, flatman £20Robert HATTON, of Wharton, flatman £20Jonathan DAVENPORT, of Somerford Booths, farmer £40William POTTS, of Somerford Booths, farmer £20Thomas CHADDOCK, of Congleton, liquor merchant £20

Summoned to Knutsford Court


Joseph FOX, of Manchester, agent £40James BOWDEN, of Shrigley, farmer )Aaron SNAPE, of Shrigley, labourer ) £10John LAWTON, of Shrigley, labourer )John BUCKLEY, of Saddleworth, in the county of York, labourer £80James WINSTANLEY, of Lymm, labourer £40Joseph PENKETH, the elder, of Lymm, tailor £40James DUCKERLEY, of Stockport, grocer £20James BENT, of Stockport, spinner £10Robert BLACKWELL, of Brinnington, warehouseman £10Thomas BAILEY, of Northern Etchells, weaver £20Robert BRIARLEY, of Cheadle Bulkeley, colour-maker £20Edward DALE, of Stockport, shopkeeper £20James WARREN, of Stockport, barber £10Thomas ROBINSON, of Heaton Norris, dyer £10James HANKINSON, of Etchells £20William HANKINSON, of Etchells, weaver £10Thomas BARRATT, of Etchells, weaver £10John BIRCH, the younger, of Stockport, butcher £20George PICKFORD, of Stockport, publican £20Charles FARNES, of Stockport, weaver £20John BIRCH, the younger, of Stockport, butcher £20William STORER, of Stockport, barm seller £10William BIRCH, of Stockport, Special Constable £10William MARTIN, of Stockport, flour dealer £10Henry JONES, of Stockport, bricklayer £50John CUNNINGHAM, of Newton Green, bricklayer £50Edward DALE, of Stockport, auctioneer £10Thomas SELBY, of Stockport, labourer £10John BAXTER, of Mottram, indentured apprentice £20Moses FERNELEY, of Mottram, surgeon £20John BAXENDALE, of Stockport, fruiterer £20William NICHOLSON, of Stockport, brazier £20John TIMPERLEY, of Brinnington, sawyer £10Joseph LOWE, of Heaton Norris, cotton spinner £10John THORNLEY, of Heaton Norris, silk weaver £20John NIELD, of Brinnington, cotton carder £10John SIDEBOTHAM, of Brinnington, machine maker £10Thomas SHARD, of Mottram, labourer £20John SHARD, of Mottram, grocer £10William SHARD, of Mottram, shoemaker £10James RENSHAW, of Heaton Norris £20


Samuel HEAWOOD, of Stockport, cotton spinner £10Daniel CHETHAM, of Stockport, innkeeper £10William WILLIAMS, late of Mottram, book keeper £20Ralph WORTHINGTON, of Stockport, belly slubber £20James KEMP, of Stockport, cotton spinner £10John BARKER, of Stockport, hatter £10James GRUNDY, of Stockport, hatter £20John GRUNDY, of Stockport, wheelwright £10James GARSIDE, of Tintwistle, farmer £20William BOYER, of Hadfield, in the county of Derby, farmer £10John BROWNHILL, of Tintwistle, farmer £10William CARTWRIGHT, of Cheadle Bulkeley, glazier £20Joseph BRADFORD, of Stockport, weaver £20James CARTWRIGHT, of Stockport, yeoman £10George CROSSLEY, of Stockport, cotton manufacturer £20Robert BACKWELL, of Brinnington, warehouseman £10Joseph CORKSEY of Stockport, schoolmaster £10Patrick CORCORAN, of Stockport, labourer £20William ARDERN, of Stockport, chaise driver £40James BRADBURNE, of Great Neston, brewer £30John JONES, of Great Neston, shoemaker £20John Clayton JONES, of Great Neston, shoemaker £10Thomas ROBINSON, of Witton, cordwainer £20John ROBINSON, of Witton, ???smith £10Thomas SMITH, of Witton, joiner £10

Ed. - does anyone know what a belly slubber is?

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TO PARENTS AND GUARDIANS.A very desirable situation is nowvacant for a YOUTH liberallyeducated, as an APPRENTICE to aSURGEON and APOTHECARY, infull practice. For particulars apply toMr R SHEARING, Druggist, Chester(if by letter, post-paid).

STOLEN OR STRAYEDFrom a Farm in Byley, nearMiddlewich, county of ChesterA BLACK MARE, with a bush tail andblaze (the white coming over the righteye), she is two years old, and standsfourteen hands high. Whoever willgive such information to SamuelBaguley, of Byley aforesaid, as shalllead to the discovery of the said Mareif strayed, shall be handsomelyrewarded, and all reasonableexpenses paid. If stolen, any personwho will give such information aboutthe offender or offenders, as shall leadto their arrest shall receive a reward ofFive Guineas.

ELLESMERETO BE LET

THE DOLPHIN INN, situated inChurch-street, Ellesmere, togetherwith a Malt Kiln, Currying Shop,Stabling and other conveniences.For particulars, apply to WILLIAMBURN, Ellesmere (if by letter, postpaid).

TO BE SOLD BY AUCTIONAt the house of George BULKELEY,the sign of the Ship, in Upton, in thehundred of Wirral, on Monday thetwentyfourth day of June inst. at fouro'clock in the afternoon, subject toconditions as will then be produced.LOT I.A very eligible ESTATE, in a pleasantpart of the township of Frankby, andHundred of Wirral, consisting of aDwelling - house, Out - buildings,Garden or Orchard, and aboutseventy-eight acres (statute measure)of good Land, all in a ring fence.The Estate is distant six miles fromWoodside Ferry House, and aboutseven from Liverpool, and is now inthe holding of Mr Peter PHILIPS.LOT II.Three fields or Closes of Land, inFrankby aforesaid, containing (of themeasure above mentioned) fifteenacres and thirteen perches, orthereabouts, and severally called theWheat Butts, the Higher Withen Hey,and the Lower Withen Hey.LOT III.A Field or Close of Land, also inFrankby, containing (of the abovemeasure) three acres and nineteenperches, or thereabouts.The whole of the above are FreeholdInheritance; and for other particulars,apply to Mr C CLEMENTS, Liverpool;or Mr PETER PHILLIPS, Frankby.

Chester Chronicle, Friday 7th June 1816

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NEW AND ELEGANTSTEAM PACKET

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THOMAS CRIMES respectfullyinforms the public, that the largeSteam packet, late the Greenock, hasbeen purchased by the Proprietors ofthe Ellesmere and Chester Canal, andsails daily from Chester, for theconveyance of Passengers and Parcelsto and from Liverpool and Chester.The expedition and superioraccommodations of this vessel are sowell known, that it is superfluous toattempt a description; and asarrangements are making upon theCanal, which will ensure the regularconveyance of Passengers fromLiverpool to Chester considerablyunder three hours, it is presumed thepassage will be found the cheapest,safest, and most expeditious, as wellas the most comfortable, of anyhitherto offered to the public.N.B. To accommodate the inhabitantsof Liverpool, the above vessel will sailfor Ellesmere Port every Sunday, onehour before high water, where shewill wait two hours, and return.Passengers are requested to observe,that the Packet will sail precisely atthe time appointed, and ten minutesonly will be allowed at Ellesmere Portfor transhipping, luggage, &c.Tower-Wharf, Chester, June 4, 1816.

ECLIPSE---On Sunday next, the 9thday of June, if it be a clear evening, themoon will be seen nearly south, about13 degrees above the horizon, whenthe eclipse will begin.--- The east-side

of the moon will begin to enter theearth's shadow 19 minutes aftereleven o'clock at night, and will bedark to the centre of the moon 50minutes past eleven o'clock.--- It willbe totally dark 28 minutes after twelveo'clock, and 40 minutes after oneo'clock the edge of the moon and theeast-side will have passed the earth'sshadow, and begin to appearenlightened; 16 minutes past twoo'clock it will be light to the centre ofthe moon, and 49 minutes past twoo'clock the whole will be enlightened,and the eclipse will end.

BIRTHOn Sunday last, at Withenshaw Hall,in this county, the Lady of ThomasWilliam TATTON, Esq. of a son andheir.MARRIEDOn Saturday week, at Middlewich,Mr C. HOWARD, to Miss MarthaLEA, both of that town.At Holt, upon the 4th day of June, theRev. Mr. WIGHTON, to Mrs JONES,of the Red Hall.Mr Wm. BROWN, late of this city,tailor and habit maker, to Mrs. EllenHIGHAM, of the Red Lion,Deansgate, Manchester.On the 16th of May, at Llanystindwy,Caernarvonshire, L. M. BENNETT,Esq. Of the 4th or King's OwnRegiment, to Miss WILLIAMS, onlydaughter of Wm. WILLIAMS, Esq. OfPlashen.DEATHSMonday morning, Mrs MADDOCKS,of Newgate-street, in this city.


NOTICETo certain Devisers named in the lastWill of Hannah HEWITT, late ofMiddlewich, in the county of Chester,widow, deceased.WHEREAS HANNAH HEWITT, lateof Middlewich, in the county ofChester, widow, deceased, did by herlast will and testament in writing,dated the 24th day of May, 1771, giveand devise unto certain Trusteestherein named, all that her Messuageor Dwelling-house, with theBuildings, Lands, and Hereditamentsthereto belonging, situate and being atEccleston, in the county of Chester,then in the holding of PeterMURROW, or his undertenants, upontrust for, and to the use of, her mother,Sarah WASE, during her life; and afterher decease, to the use of her brother,William WASE, during his life; andafter his decease, to the use of hernephew, Ralph WASE, during his life;and after his decease, to the use of hisissue, whether sons or daughters,with an ultimate remainder to the useof the testatrix's cousin, Mary WASE,daughter of the late ReverendBenjamin WASE, of Bowles, in thecounty of Salop; her cousin, AliceWASE, sister of the said Mary WASE;her godson, Robert RICHARDSON,son of Mr Robert RICHARDSON, lateof the city of Chester, currier,deceased; Frances Ellen SMITH,daughter of Mr William SMITH, ofthe said city, farmer; her godson, JohnFILKIN, son of Mr Thomas FILKIN, ofNorthwich, in the county of Chester,

surgeon; and her goddaughter,Hannah REDFORD, daughter of MrREDFORD, late of Bedford-street,Covent-garden, London, barber andperuke-maker, their heirs and assignsfor ever, equally amongst them, shareand share alike, to take as tenants incommon; But in case any of themshould die under the age of twenty-one years, and without lawful issue,then as to the share or shares of him,her or them… such survivors take thesame equally…; and whereas theTestatrix's mother, Sarah WASE, andher brother, William WASE, havebeen dead many years, and hernephew, the said Ralph WASE, hathlately departed this life without issue,such of the Devisees in remainder….are desired to transmit, forthwith,proper pedigrees and statements oftheir respective claims under the saidwill… to Messrs. SECKER & SON,Solicitors, Windsor.TO BE SOLD BY AUCTIONOn Thursday 11th July, at 12 o’clock,at Ewart, Rutson and Co’s office, inExchange-alley, Liverpool, part of theCargo of the ship Robarts, just arrivedfrom Bengal.2200 Bags of Sugar2015 Bags of Saltpetre106 Chests of Borax118 Chests of Tincal396 Bales of Safflower300 Bags Black Pepper150 Bags Coculus Indices217 Bags Seed Lac3 Chests Lac Dye147 Bags Turmeric

Chester Chronicle, Tuesday 2nd July 1816


TRAFFORD ASSOCIATIONWhereas divers felonies have beencommitted in the several townshipshereinafter mentioned, all in thecounty of Chester, and the offendershave frequently escaped justice, eitherthrough tenderness, or for want of aproper fund being established to carryout the necessary prosecution againstthem,NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVENThat we, whose names are hereuntosubscribed, in order to deter anyperson or persons from committingany burglary, highway robbery, orstealing any horse, cattle, pigs, sheep,fish, household goods, implements inhusbandry, corn out of barns, fields,&c. taking or carrying away wood,destroying fences, or other felonies orfrauds whatever, have agreed to formourselves into a society for thedetection and prosecution of suchoffender or offenders:Bridge Trafford: Joseph Edmondson,T. ParryMickle Trafford: John Reece, W JonesHoole: R Brittain, John GrindleyFlookersbrook: Thomas Walker, JohnLightfootThornton-in-the-Moors: John Dutton,Robert Dutton, jun., Thomas SeftonWimbolde Trafford: Thomas GerrardSealand: Thomas Gorst, W Gregory,Thomas Baxter, Samuel AckerleyBlacon: William MarryStone Bridge: Mrs WalkerMollington: Joseph PlattCrab Hall: Daniel DelamereDunham-o'-th'-Hill: Richard GamanPicton: Thomas LloydTwo Mile House: Thomas Rowe

Chester: John RoweShatwick Lodge: Robert EllistonParkgate House: John HealingLiddleton: Richard Gorst

JOSEPH EDMONDSON, Treasurer.

PARISH OF LIVERPOOLON SALE

BEST DRY PICKED OAKUM,At 20s per cwt.

Apply to Mr W HARDMAN, at theLiverpool Workhouse.

BIRTHOn the 27th ult. The Lady of the Rev.Wm. GARNETT, Rector of Tilston, ofa son.

MARRIEDAt Everton, near Liverpool, EllisJONES, Esq. From Denbigh, to MrsROBINSON, Castle-street.Lately, at Winwick, Mr ThosBILLINGE, wire-worker, to MissMargaret JACKSON, both of Newton,Lancashire.On Thursday last, at Great Budworth,by the Rev Mr. JONES, Mr CLARE, ofWarrington, to Miss FIRTH, ofFrandley, near Warrington.On Friday, the 16th ult. at Manchester,Mr J. COLEMAN, assistant surgeon ofthe 3rd Dragoon Guards, to Agnes,daughter of Lieut.-Col. GEALE, of thesame regiment.On Thursday last, at Stockport, by theRev. Matthew DUNN, WilliamTRISTRAM, Esq., of Norley Bank,Cheshire, to Eliza, only daughter ofthe late Jeremiah BOWER, Esq., ofLiverpool.


DIEDLately, Mr Joseph WILKINSON,Bickerton, aged 83 years.Lately, Mr Thomas ADAMS, clock-maker, Middlewich.After a short illness, on Thursday, MrThomas TOPHAM, of this city.On Friday last, Mrs RATCLIFFE,relict of Mr Joseph RATCLIFFE, ofthis city.On Friday the 22nd ult. at Northwich,Mrs BELLIS, late of Barton.On Tuesday last, Mrs OKELL, wife ofMr John OKELL, of Sandiway.On the same day, Mr John OKELL, ofDutton Park, in this county, aged 49.A few days ago, in the prime of life,Miss SLATER, of Cuddington, nearNorthwich.Tuesday week, in the 73rd year of hisage, Mr. Isaac CLARKE, bookseller,Manchester.Saturday morning, Mrs MOLLOY, ofthe White Lion, public house, in thiscity; and on Sunday, Mr. MOLLOY,husband of the above: a wife andhusband in the silent arms of death, atthe same time, in the same house.

COMMITMENTS – On Thursdaylast, John BROWNE, a silk-weaver,was committed to our castle, by theMagistrates, charged with havingpicked the pocket of Mr. DanielMASSEY, of Prestbury. [BROWN, itwill be recollected, is the person whowas tried at Chester Spring Assizes,1815, for picking the pocket of JohnCHAPMAN, butcher, of Maccles-field.] - William BRITT and WilliamWIDDOWS have also beencommitted, charged with breaking

into the factory of Messrs.HARDERN, Son, & HIGGIN-BOTHAM, of Macclesfield. Severalother persons are at present confinedin our Borough gaol on suspicion ofbeing connected with the extensivesilk robberies which have lately takenplace.

A CAUTION TO POACHERS – OnMonday last, Samuel HUGHES, wasconvicted before John OLDERSHAW,and Thos. ARMITSTEAD, clerks, andGeorge ORMEROD, Esq of fishing inthe ponds of Booth GREY, Esq. in thetownship of Mouldsworth; and beingunable to pay the legal penalty of £5for the offence, was committed for sixmonths to the House of Correction atMiddlewich.

There are now living in the smalltown of Altrincham, Cheshire, asfollows:

Mary MARTIN, aged 91Charles LEICESTER 90James BROOM 86Esther SLATER 85Jane ROECROFT 85Ann GLEAVE 84Robert BAKEHOUSE 84Mr POSTLES 84Mary DRINKWATER 83Ann AUSTIN 83Martha BLINSTON 82Hannah WARBURTON 82Isaac DUNE 81Ellen ROBOTHAM 81James LAYLAND 80Sarah SMITH 80Mary DUNSTER 80


TO BE SOLD BY AUCTIONAt the Cock Inn, in Winsford, in thecounty of Chester, on Thursday the8th day of August, 1816, at threeo'clock in the afternoon, subject toconditions to be then produced.LOT I.All that extensive and valuablesalt work, in Winsford, lately in theoccupation of the said HenryHARRISON, containing eight saltpans, with drying stoves, grates, andimplements, a steam engine, of tenhorse power, and all otherimplements and utensils for makingsalt, two weighing machines,blacksmiths shop, and tools,carpenters shop, and all other effectsupon the said premises, … and alsoseven acres and fourteen perches ofLAND, of statute measure, orthereabouts, together with fourCOTTAGES thereon.The before-mentioned premises areheld under a lease from ThomasCHOLMONDELEY, Esquire, for theterm of fifty years, from 25th March1810, at the yearly rent of £100, for thefirst thirty years of the said term, andat the yearly rent of £20.

AN APPRENTICE ABSCONDEDFROM KELSALLA YOUNG MAN, a Stone Mason, 5feet 9½ inches high, small features,pock marked, red beard, dark sandedhair, hazle eyes, long fingers, a widemouth, and crooked teeth; supposedto be gone to Hereford. Any persongiving information of the said man,shall, upon his apprehension, receivea Reward of THREE POUNDS.

Confectionary and FruitWarehouse,

EASTGATE ROW, CHESTERT. GIBBON takes the liberty ofinforming his friends that he isregularly supplied with Pines,Grapes, and Melons, which may behad in any quantity, packed up, so asto carry any distance. He also wishesto remark, that the above fruit is ofvery superior quality, and will be soldon reasonable terms, notwithstandingthe considerable distance which theyare brought from the vicinity ofChester.T. GIBBON has his usual very choiceassortment of Confectionary, of whichhe need not say anything to thoseladies and gentlemen who have madea trial of it.His rich Bride Cakes are always madeready in different sizes, so that nodisappointment need be feared.A large assortment of Fancy Biscuits,Rusks, Cakes, &c., and an extensiveassortment of Foreign Fruits, Saucesand Pickles.Tarts or Meat Pies made, or coveredon dishes.Paste by the pound, &c.

ORMEROD'S HISTORYOF CHESHIRE

Any Gentleman in want of a largepaper copy of the First Part of MrORMEROD'S HISTORY OFCHESHIRE, may be supplied with anearly Number on application to Mr T.G. LOMAX, Bookseller, Lichfield.

Chester Chronicle, Friday 2nd August 1816


On Wednesday week the mail coachbetween Manchester and Liverpoolwas overturned near the Pottery atPrescott, by which an insidepassenger was so much hurt that henow lays ill at an inn in that town; andMr David BANCROFT, of Salford,who was on the box, had several ofhis ribs broken, and received adreadful contusion on the head. Helingered in complete insensibility tillSaturday morning about three o'clock,when he died. It appeared in evidencetaken before a coroner, that at the timethe accident happened, the coachmanwas racing with a man on horseback,and that it was entirely owing toimproper conduct, that society hasthus been robbed of a most worthymember, a wife of a most belovedhusband, and six children of a tenderfather. The jury returned a verdict ofmanslaughter against the coachman,who has absconded.

A Petition has been addressed to hisRoyal Highness the Prince Regent,entitled “The humble Memorial of theManufacturers of Cotton Goods, andWorkmen of Stockport...:” and itsobject is to obtain a prohibition of theexportation of cotton yarn, on theidea, that if foreigners could not getthe yarn which they weave into cloth,they would be obliged to buy thecloth from us.

Yesterday week, in consequence of adrunken quarrel at the Wheat Sheaf,in Great Broughton, near this city, ayoung woman named COOK,received a dreadful blow from

another female, named BRADSHAW,which speedily put an end to herexistence.A Coroner's Inquest brought in averdict of MANSLAUGHTER againstBRADSHAW and her father.

The skeleton pieces for a fine ironbridge over the Conway, at Bettws yCoed, are now shipping at this portfor their destination. The centre piecehas the inscription in letters about 14inches high, “This bridge was erectedin the year the battle of Waterloo wasfought.” The whole is the work of theingenious Mr. HAZLEDINE, of Salop

MARRIEDMr. LANGFORD, of Duddon Heath,to Miss DOD, only daughter of thelate Samuel DOD, timber merchant, ofTarvin, in this county.Yesterday, at Trinity Church, by theRev. Roger JACKSON, of Bebington,Richard MASSEY, Esq. Of MostonHall, to Ellen, daughter of AbrahamBALL, Esq. Of Stanley Place.

DEATHSOn Friday, of a decline, Mr JohnDAWSON, son of Mr DAWSON,baker and confectioner, of this city.In the night of Wednesday last, Mr.Thos. PENNINGTON, late of the Rampublic-house, in Great Boughton, nearthis city.Friday last, in London, at an advancedage, the Rev. Samuel BRADBURN,late of this city. He travelled as anItinerant Preacher in the WesleyanMethodist Connexion, 42 years.


Cheshire Archives WWI Absent Voters List Project

Cheshire Archives and Local Studies Spring 1919 Absent Voters Lists Online isnow live and the SharePoint collaborative indexing area is up and running.Volunteers, working remotely, have started transcribing and indexing fromthe digitised images, expanding abbreviations and acronyms as they go, andthe index is growing on a daily basis.

The first entries in the new, fully searchable, free, online index of Cheshire FirstWorld War service personnel can be found at:http://archivedatabases.cheshire.gov.uk/cosocius.ww1archive.internet/

This connects to the About page of the web application, and you can pick upthe Search facility from the top strapline. Although the AVLs are now availableat FindMyPast, the end product in this case is totally free, and also the aim ofthis project is to capture all of the local annotations in the local AVLs which, ofcourse, aren’t on the ones at FindMyPast.

This portal has been developed with a view to using the same set up for futurecrowd-sourced indexing projects…..and there is also the opportunity tobecome more familiar with SharePoint.

There are about 1,100 entries in so far, and one person has completed half ofthe Congleton entries. Try the search - it will give you some idea of thepossibilities. The surname and unit keyword are particularly good. Try usingCamel, or marine, or HMS…….or Smith, Davies. Click on a line to get fulldetails for that entry.There’s even someone with a connection to Lahore!

The Winsford WWI ReturnsAfter the end of World War I, two Winsford men, the Rev. W H Stables, Vicarof St Chad's and Mr J H Cooke, Solicitor and Clerk to the Council sent aquestionnaire to households in Winsford and Whitegate asking for details ofall who had served. The completed returns were made into five boundvolumes which are now held by Cheshire Archives.

In 1996, Alan Ravenscroft made a transcript, and published it privately.Copies are in Winsford and Chester libraries.


by Andrew Tarr

The seeds of my family research came in the shape of a small handmadenotebook of my mother’s. I believe she had copied into it some records shefound while sorting effects after her mother’s death in 1963 - quite possibly abible belonging to her mother, who had been born Mary Emma YOUNG in1838, the seventh of John YOUNG’s ten children and the last survivor in 1931.

Married at Manchester CathedralThe notebook naturally concentrated on John’s descendants, saying nothing atall about his parents or two brothers. I soon discovered that an earlier GeorgeYOUNG had married Charlotte FISHER in April 1805 at Manchester Cathedral(which proved to be a frequent venue for the Young family) and baptismrecords confirmed that they were the true parents. Three sons seemed a smallfamily for the period, but no other offspring were evident.

As told in a previous CHESHIRE ANCESTOR (June 2015), John and ElizabethYOUNG methodically named several of their children after earlier familymembers, confirming that John’s mother had been a FISHER and enabling meto identify Elizabeth’s parents as Henry PIERCY and Sarah WALTON, despiteHenry appearing in the marriage register as PEARSON. This habit was toprove useful again.

I tried hard to trace John’s older brother George; the only likely candidate nevermarried, being manager from 1861 to 1881 of a calico printing works, andlodging with various families in south Manchester. However, the water-damaged census record for 1851 showed him (if it was him) to be living withhis parents George and Catherine YOUNG, who were from Bakewell andSaddleworth respectively. On the face of it this looked wrong; Catherine wasn’tCharlotte, and she was five years older than George. A Charlotte YOUNG haddied in April 1828 aged 56, but that made her ten years older than George –even worse? On the other hand, John’s first child, born soon afterwards, wasnamed Susannah Charlotte, perhaps in her memory?

Victorian Manchester Revelations


Help from the FreeReg websiteThe FreeReg website (www.freereg.org.uk) now gave some answers: the Bakewellregisters showed a George Heathcote YOUNG baptised in April 1782, parentsGeorge and Sarah (HEATHCOTE), who had married there in December 1779.An immediate hit, as John YOUNG’s tenth and last child had been JohnHeathcote YOUNG, born in 1847. This George YOUNG had to be John’sbrother - but who was Catherine?

Next it emerged that the older George – unhelpfully, he seems never to haveused his middle name - had married Catherine MARLAND at Christmas 1828;she had been baptised in Saddleworth in November 1776. It seems that (a)George H preferred ‘the older woman’ and (b) he only waited a few months toremarry after Charlotte died. Charlotte’s age may explain why there were onlythree children: Thomas was born when she was almost 40, and he himself diedjust before his ninth birthday (1820), which is why I found no trace of himearlier.

The Importance of Death CertificatesCatherine died in January 1852, and George H just a year later. After that theyounger George, always ‘unmarried’, lodged in various places, but in April1881 his landlord was a Samuel VOYCE (28) with wife Elizabeth (32), sister andson, as well as Elizabeth NATTRASS (57), listed as a servant/housekeeper.When George died in 1885, Samuel VOYCE registered his death, announcinghimself as ‘son-in-law’ – interesting – so who had Samuel married?

The June 1873 marriage in Manchester Cathedral named the bride as ElizabethNattrass YOUNG, aged 25, and her father as none other than George YOUNG,her mother clearly being the 1881 servant/housekeeper, neither of whomclaimed in the census to be married or widowed. The younger Elizabeth wasbaptised in June 1848 (cathedral again) but no father was disclosed on thatoccasion. She was apparently the result of a liaison between George andElizabeth when they were about 40 and 23 respectively, around the time thatbrother John was naming his last child Heathcote. She was clearly devoted toher father, because the VOYCE's first two offspring, who did not survive, werenamed George Young VOYCE and David Young VOYCE.

By the 1891 census, after George had died, the older Elizabeth had renamedherself YOUNG, and became Samuel’s widowed mother-in-law. She lived onuntil 1907, when the family had moved to more salubrious surroundings inSale. Elizabeth VOYCE died in Hoylake in 1936.


Net That SerfThe Computer Section

Compiled by Geoff JohnsonEmail: [email protected] Tel: 01829 760422

ContentsFrom the Desktop 49Irish Catholic Parish Records 501939 Register 51Windows 10 – Update Issues 53I’ve Lost My Memory 56

Family History Programs:Family Historian 58

Family History Programs: FamilyTree Maker Lives On! 61

From the Inbox 61

From the Desktop

Website addresses (URLs): I’m conscious that I’ve used a lot of lengthy URLsin this issue. Doing this enables me to cover a lot of ground. If you can use thelink it saves me bulking out the edition with lots and lots of text. I’d stronglyrecommend to printed journal readers that, once you understand where aparticular topic is going, you’ll find it much easier to continue reading bydownloading the electronic version of the CHESHIRE ANCESTOR from the FHSCwebsite, and then you can just click on the links to see what it’s about.

Apple Macs: My plea in the last issue for knowledgeable Apple Mac users tocome forward and help me support members using these devices has generatedno response whatever. I know that there are a lot of Mac users out therebecause they keep asking me for help! I invariably find that their knowledgeof the product is poor. It seems to me that in the main such users adopted thesedevices because they found them to be `easier to use’. I therefore set down achallenge and daringly venture to suggest that their knowledge of what goeson within a computer is scant, and in my very limited research experience oftheir products, I know that Apple make the internals of both their machinesand software far more difficult for the user to ‘climb inside’. My own ITknowledge tells me that, in reality, they can’t be that difficult. However, I’vegot quite enough to do understanding Windows systems, without trying to getinvolved in the complexities that Apple chooses to bury and hide within theirs.At this point I’ll sidle back behind the parapet and wait to see what gets firedback at me!


My Heritage: Does anybody out there subscribe to (or tried using) My Heritage?For information, see www.myheritage.com. I’m increasingly finding referencesto it and, viewing the website, I perceive that it seems to be yet another versionof the main search websites we’re already using. I want to find out if what itprovides is different. However, as I’m already paying subscriptions to threesites I’m not willing to spread my resources further!

Irish Catholic Parish RecordsBy Geoff Johnson

A few months ago FindMyPast (FMP) introduced a searchable database forCatholic Parish Registers in Ireland. It's been more than 10 years since Iestablished that my paternal grandmother was born in Ireland; at last I have abaptism record for her - and for a bonus it also includes her birth date! Thatled me on to be able to find the baptism record of her father. However,marriages have proved to be not quite as fruitful.

I spent quite a lot of time at the Who Do You Think You Are? Live show, talkingto the National Library of Ireland, Ireland XO and FindMyPast. With help fromother members it now becomes clearer that whilst there are some 40 millionrecorded images in the national libraries database, only 10 million are availableon FindMyPast. The National Library told me that they had made ALL of the40M records available to both FindMyPast and Ancestry. They suggested thateach were managing the data in a different way and advised that searches onboth could well produce different results. As I’ve been patient for over ten yearsalready, and as FMP and Ancestry have seemingly not declared their intentions,I’m going to sit back and wait to see how this develops.

I would stress here that to view this data requires a Worldwide subscriptionon FindMyPast. If you don’t have one it may be necessary to go to our ResearchCentres at Crewe or Mobberley, or your local public library. I think that mightalso be the case with Ancestry. I only have a UK subscription there and myAncestry searches are not finding very much.

Finding the way in to the database on FMP is not straightforward. You reallyneed to go to the right search page, otherwise you get led through a whole raftof associated pages. I’ve tracked the direct links down to the following threeURLs (note that they are all the same except for the last word).

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/ireland-roman-catholic-parish-baptisms http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/ireland-roman-catholic-parish-marriages http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/ireland-roman-catholic-parish-burials


If you’re going to search these records a lot I’d advise navigating to these pagesand saving them in a group in your Favourites/Bookmarks.On a final point I’d advise you to expect some records written in Gaelic/Latin- that’ll keep you occupied!

Place Names Database of Ireland: Computer group member Lesley Brownadvised me of a website that she’d found most helpful for, amongst otherthings, Irish place names and their variants. It is www.logainm.ieBy default it’s in Irish Gaelic, but there is a button to convert to English. Thisis a site worth exploring: the maps are great.

1939 RegisterBy Various Members

The introduction of this register is increasingly being recognised as a verypowerful tool for researchers of family history in England and Wales. Thoseearlier searchers who pooh-poohed certain aspects and were concerned aboutthe initial payment procedure are now, I believe, beginning to see the realbenefits. Much has been written about it and these are some of the best treatiseson the subject:Findmypast’s Expert Insights into the 1939 Registerhttps://blog.findmypast.co.uk/watch-1436591498.htmlSecrets of the 1939 RegisterIn Peter Calver’s Lost Cousins Newsletter - 11th April 2016:http://lostcousins.com/newsletters2/apr16news.htm1939 Register Special NewsletterLost Cousins 19th February special issue: http://lostcousins.com/newsletters2/1939special.htm

My own researches have at long last found a trail through 1939 to the probable1944 death of a great-uncle, of whom my father was completely unaware.Having his full birthdate and the inclusion of this factor in the searchparameters of FindMyPast produced a one-hit answer.

Here are some more members' comments:Runcorn’s Peter Rowley said: Hi Geoff. What a busy and exciting time we areliving in. The 1911 census has come along and helped us to find more aboutour grandparents, and great-grandparents. This has been followed by the 1939Register. Some people asked what use it was, but it gave us exact dates of birth(better than the other censuses) and shows future marriages and name changesand where they were living. As a result, I have found details of about 200people that I was not aware of in my family tree.


Vivienne Pitcher of Greasby says: Hello Geoff, I just wanted to add my commentsabout the 1939 register. As I'm pretty well stuck on my research I just buyoccasional £6.95 pay-as-you-go subscriptions to FMP so I've only downloadeda couple of records, the preview being useful to decide which are most likelyto be worthwhile.

The entry for my mother proved to be very good value as the householdconsisted of seven family members representing three generations, the identityof the two closed records being easy to deduce. The best thing about it wasthat it gave my uncle's Royal Marines register number and the name of his ship,from which I was able to obtain his service record from the National Archives.While I knew he'd been in the Marines, I'd previously been unable to find thisinformation because, with a common name like William Thompson, I didn'tknow where to start looking. Presumably he was home on leave at the time ofthe register, the ship sailing for Canada in October 1939. I note that your articlestates that military establishments were excluded, but I am wondering if italways gives a serviceman's number when one turns up on the Register.

As you also state, women's married surnames have been updated on theRegister. My mother was born in 1904 so her record is shown, but she did notmarry until 1948 and her new surname has been written in.

1939 Register at Computer ClubAt Computer Club we searched and found an ancestor for David Blyth (Irby,Wirral), and I forwarded the information to him.

David says: many thanks for the enclosures Geoff. I was really chuffed that youfound not only my father, albeit with an incorrectly transcribed name, but alsomy maternal grandmother. She has puzzled me for many years for there wasanother birth of the same name a couple of years earlier. However, the onediscovered this week has a date of birth only 4 days different to the birthcertificate I obtained, so probably as conclusive as I will get. I have a newspaperarticle about her when she was 80, and also her obituary announcement, butneither has been dated nor the paper named. Many hours spent searchingthrough newspapers in the archives had proved fruitless.

You may wonder why I haven't tried to follow through her line. The articlesays she was one of a family of 22 children. Their surname was Jones, and agreat many Welsh families came to Birkenhead in its heyday. I like a challenge- but! It was fortunate she changed her name for she produced 13 children. Isit any wonder there are so many Jones's?


Windows 10 – Update IssuesBy Geoff Johnson

I’m getting help requests from people with vague operational errors such aslocked-up, running slowly, or otherwise `PC not happy’. In all cases there areindications such as “it was alright before I switched it off last night.” All thesystems have proved to be recoverable: there have been no 'deaths'!So far all my investigations seem to relate to failure through interruptedupdates.

Facts about the Update ProcessUpdates to Windows 10 are now automatic. The machine downloads andinstalls updates necessary for your system whenever they are available and thesystem is not overly busy. The process operates in the background.Systems that are switched on every day, or on most days, give little problem.Periodic smaller updates take place and you’re probably not aware that it’shappening.

The Intermittently Used System ProblemIn this situation problems can occur with intermittently used systems. Forexample, I operate mainly from my desktop PC. My laptop is irregularly usedfor the monthly Computer Club meeting, local village meetings and occasionaltalks. It may not get used for a week or even more. When it’s switched on afterthat sort of gap it inevitably runs extremely slowly. What is happening in thatstart-up period is that everything that needs updating is getting updated. Mostparticularly your virus protection program, any programs you use willautomatically update, if you use a web storage service such as dropbox it willbe busy synchronising files, and of course Windows itself. All of theseprocesses are looking for server access to their relevant providers andcontending for data transmission. They will all sort themselves out providingthey don’t get interrupted.

In that situation it’s best that you switch the machine on and just leave it. Thelength of time you leave it for probably needs to be proportional to the lengthof time since you last switched it on! Under those conditions it is probably agood idea to:

a. plug your laptop into the mains chargerb. disable the sleep option (see below).

If a PC goes to sleep in the middle of a hefty update process it ought to handlethe interruption correctly, but it will of course slow the whole process down.If for some reason you actually switch the system off at this stage then the


results are inevitably going to be questionable.This I perceive is a primary cause of many of the cries for help that I get.

In such a situation I just recommend switching the system off and letting itrestart. If a laptop has really got screwed up it may be necessary to both unplugthe charger connection AND remove the battery in order to give the machinea complete and clean restart.To date I’ve always found that such a restart and the machine left to its owndevices clears up the problem.

Beware though the situation of two very out-of-date PCs trying to accessupdates. This may arise if you’ve been away for some time and switch twoPCs on together. The contention for Internet access will be high.

Get to Know Your Way Around:I’d strongly advise you to familiarise yourself with two important Windows 10controls:

1. SettingsSettings can be identified and found as the little cogwheel symbol found afterclicking the start button. This gives the following menu selection:


Disable Sleep When Laptop Plugged inGo to Settings> System> Power and Sleep. Under the Sleep heading, note Whenplugged in, PC goes to sleep after: click on the drop-down arrow and scroll thebar down so that you can see ‘Never’ and click on it. You will still be able tomanually put your PC to sleep using the start button. I believe that it will stillgo to sleep when the charger is not connected to conserve battery power.

2. Control PanelRight click on the start button and select Control Panel.

Monitoring Update ActivityIt might seem that the Settings and Control Panel facilities are very similar; butthey aren’t! This is particularly noticeable when trying to understand whatupdates have been applied to your system.

Try clicking Update and Security in Settings and look at Windows Update. It willtell you what the current status is, and at the bottom you can click on Advancedoptions. There you can view your Update History. This history may give youan indication of when it was last trying to do something. If you’re havingproblems and the date there is yesterday or today, you have a clue that it’s beenattempting to make changes. However, this update history is severely `pruned’in respect of what’s actually been happening in your system.

Now turn to Control Panel and navigate to Programs> Programs and Features, andat the top left-hand side click on View Installed Updates. From there you will beable to see that, for the same date as your settings update history, there arealmost certainly a whole lot more other updates that have taken place.

The Settings panel in Windows 10 is new, but good old Control Panel has beenwith us for a long time - it’s very useful and it’s still there!

Care on Pay-As-You-Go ConnectionsWindows Update is not really controllable. On a regularly used system it worksjust fine, but on a mobile laptop that periodically uses a pay-as-you-go Internetconnection you need to be wary. A large update downloaded at the same timeas you are using the Wi-Fi link can easily clean out your paid-for dataallocation. In such circumstances you can tell your laptop to not manageupdates on certain Wi-Fi connections.

To set this you MUST be connected to the Wi-Fi link concerned. Then go toSettings, click the Network & Internet>WiFi tab, Advanced Options. Under MeteredConnection set it as ON.You should then get an Update & Security message when updates are available.


Files Not Opening in the Correct ProgramWindows 10 upgrade has a tendency to alter the association of file types (suchas .GED - GEDCOM) Go to Control Panel, if set to View by: Category change it toView by: large/small icons (either will do) and click on Default Programs. Thengo to Associate file type or protocol within a program. Scroll down until you find.GED and see what program it is associated with. I found one error where itwas trying to get a GEDCOM file to operate with Microsoft Edge! I also recallthat Windows 10made similar changes to .PDF and .JPEG/.JPG files. Windowsis happy to open .PDFs in a browser rather than Acrobat Reader, and it seems todefinitely prefer that one doesn’t open .JPGs with IrfanView!

I’ve Lost My MemoryBy Gren Dix

Long ago in the days of Windows XP (or was it Windows 95?) I had a laptop.This didn’t have a lot of disk space. I kept getting a message saying that I wasrunning out of space, and asking me to free up space. When I inspected thedisk properties I seemed to have sufficient space for my needs. However, atthe time the Guardian ran a computer column so I wrote to them. It appearedthat Windows hugs a heap of disk space for temporary files and for swap files(swapping data out of RAMmemory into physical disk files).

Recently I bought a touch screen tablet to play with. This came with Windows8.1 and a 32GB solid state disk (SSD) – in effect an internal SD card. Wheninvited to upgrade, with gay abandon I updated to Windows 10. Even with nodata or program files this took nearly two hours. I then loaded some programs(including CCleaner and an anti-virus program). I bought an SD card to use as'disk D' to hold photos and audio.

On checking the SD disk’s memory usage I found that well over 20GB of theavailable 32GB had been used – this with only a few of my own files loaded.When you upgrade from, say, Windows 8.1 to Windows 10, details of the oldinstallation are held in a file called windows.old. This file can be about 2GB; hereis where a memory loss kicks in. There is a way of reducing the amount of diskspace being used by deleting some file types, in particular removingwindows.old – something you cannot do by using the ordinary ‘delete’.

Go to Settings>System and then choose Storage. This lists the attached disks andasks where you wish to store various file types (music, audio, video etc.). Forthe disks it shows the available storage and the amount used. Click on a disk


to see the amount of storage used for various file types (system, apps,documents, music, temporary files etc.). Click on the temporary files and themessage ‘Delete temporary files’ appears. Click this and you are asked if you aresure. Windows then tells you that it is clearing up the files and asks you to comeback in a bit. That 'bit' was some hours later (including waking the tablet up acouple of times) and it was still thinking. At that point I admitted defeat andabandoned the process.

Next I tried CCleaner, which deletes various temporary files. This got 39% ofthe way through and appeared to hang. Using the Control Panel, I uninstalledCCleaner, downloaded the latest version, installed it, and ran it (having firstgone to Settings>System>Power & Sleep and adjusted the time the screen stayslit and how long before the system goes to sleep). I persevered with the timefor things to happen. It found 25,000 temporary files taking up 2.3GB. On thisrun it cleared thousands of files and freed up over 1GB. I ran it again andcleared up more space. I then went back to Storage as in the previous paragraphand cleared up more space. I have no idea what the temporary files were orwhy there were so many. I now have Windows taking up 11GB.

Of course Windows has many ways of skinning a cat. Here is another: rightclick the Windows icon/Start Button (on a tablet or touch screen hold down yourfinger on the item), select Control Panel. Note that in all the followinginstructions, Control Panel is set to View by: Category. Select the Security category(this is different from the Update & Security option in Settings). Under theAdministrative Tools category (near the bottom of the page) select Free up DiskSpace. You will be asked which drive you wish to clean up, the default is C.Click OK and select the check boxes you wish to be cleaned. Click the box Cleanup system files (at the bottom) then click OK. A window giving the various filestypes and their file size is displayed: click Yes to delete them. A window willopen asking if you are sure.

To find out how much disc space Windows reserves look at the following:File Explorer>right click This PC>Properties>Advanced system settings>clickAdvanced tab>in Performance click Settings>Advanced tab>Virtual memory and itshows your Windows allowance.

Now for the opposite – use disk space wisely. Things will go wrong. Youshould have in place Firewall and Anti-virus software to manage attacks. Otherthings go wrong. You may wrongly delete a file or save the wrong version, oryou download and install some software that completely messes up yoursystem.


You should back up your files (a subject covered at length elsewhere). Onesimple option is to use Windows File History as follows: Control Panel >System& Security>File HistoryYou will need to select a disk to hold the history, then switch on File History.

One way to recover from software download problems is to use Restore Points.These were available on earlier versions of windows. Here is how to get toone: go to Control Panel. In the search box at the top right type Restore Pointand follow the instructions.

Gren went on to add the following further options he’s used as aids to his ownpoor memory. The following are all found in Windows 10:

Setting up a password:Go to Settings>Accounts>Sign in options.

Protection from forgetting a password:Create a password reset disk as follows:Go to Settings, then in the search box type password reset disk and follow theinstructions. The reset disk can be a disk, memory card or a USB flash drive(Memory Stick).You cannot create a password reset disk for your Microsoft account.

Microsoft Account Password:If you have forgotten the password to your Microsoft account, open anyweb browser and go to www.live.com. This will show you how to reset your password.

Family History Programs: Family Historian

UpgradeFamily Historian (FH) has recently been upgraded to Version 6.2. You need toread up on the new introductions made on their website, but a significant factoris that they now provide a help/search facility involving, if you’ve got one,direct access to your subscription account for FindMyPast or My Heritage. Inmy case I selected my FMP subscription and find that it does a quite helpfuland unobtrusive scan for each individual; a little green marker is placed againsta person’s name when a matching record is found. In most cases I’m fullyaware of what it finds; it also finds some wrong ones which you can reject, butI’ve already noticed one or two new opportunities for further investigation.


New User 1 – XP Users Take Care Andrew Tarr of Frodsham reports: Having read your enthusiasticrecommendations of this program, I finally took the plunge and switched lastweek. I had used good old Generations-8 for many years without regret, but itsknickers were starting to get a bit twisted - a few of my Notes were cross-linkedamong two, three or even four people. So I exported a couple of GEDCOMfiles (one for my half, one for my wife's), edited out the crosslinks with NotePad,and sucked them successfully into Family Historian.

I am gradually getting used to the very different screen appearance, learningabout all the new tabs and buttons, and attaching multiple photos and linkingto faces in them. However, my PC still runs with Windows XP and I must pointout - as I don't think you have - that the latest version (6) of FH doesn't. I believethe 30-day trial offer is with version 6, so that will not help users of XP like me.Before deciding to switch, I fortunately consulted TWR Computing's website(www.twrcomputing.co.uk). TWR Computing is now owned by a familycompany in Yorkshire which specialises in genealogy software, and theybrought this to my attention. Their subsidiary company, www.my-history.co.uk,still sells FH version 5, which is XP-compatible, for a modest £20 - an excellentinvestment. A similar sum buys you a 200-page A4 manual, which doesn'tanswer every conceivable question, but is well put together. TWR also offersto carry out any remedial work your old files may need, though I chose not totake up that option. One treatment they offer is to retain carriage-returncharacters within the Notes, which otherwise disappear - I have spent sometime refreshing my new FH Notes, but I was going to do that anyway.

In your latest column your correspondent asks about retention of INDInumbers. My limited experience with editing my GEDCOM files indicates thatthis happens, and I gather that FH actually stores your data in GEDCOM formatanyway. Thus far it is looking good.

New User 2Terry Wall, from West Kirby, follows up from the interchange on page 61 of theMarch 2016 edition and has come back to me with the following:After a quick free trial, I decided to go ahead anyway and am now getting usedto the program. I thought you might be interested in my comments on theexperience, and set them down below, including one query.

I suppose every user has different needs. The data I have comes mostly froma one-name study into the name Hearnshaw, but with further additions of thosewho are, or are close to, direct ancestors of my wife or myself.


There are just over 4000 individuals on the list. At the end of last year we hada major problem with our Internet when my wife's computer was hacked andwe lost her email address list; it took a while to get a new address, and then tostart a new FindMyPast subscription, and by then I had 250 hits on the 1939Register to incorporate. So it has taken some time to get round to writing anevaluation.

In general, I am very happy with the program. Most things work well, and Ihave enjoyed adding pictures of the individuals in the tree. This actually tooka couple of months, as I have found over 300 relevant pictures, covering 300+individuals (but still hope to find some more). There are many features whichdiffer from those I am used to, so it takes a lot of time to find how best tomanage and use the data (their 'quick tour' was really only a start, not a guide).Much of the background information I was offered prior to installation relatesto converting from Family Tree Maker, whereas I have been converting fromPAF.

While there was no problem in importing the GEDCOM file, other items aremore problematic. FH has a lot of space for 'Sources'. I don't know how to usethis: sources are mostly either from census information (and though thetranscriptions given by Ancestry and FindMyPast differ in a number of places,is it really of interest to record which one has used?) or BMD records from theGRO; before 1837 we have church records, which I used to get from IGI butnowadays usually by a search in FindMyPast. Sometimes my source has beena personal communication. In PAF I recorded all this as part of my Notes. Thisis displayed okay in FH, but they use the first line of the Notes as a separateitem in places: this works badly for me - my notes on each person are (inprinciple) arranged chronologically with references to birth, censuses andmarriage as they occur, and death, so the first line records the source of thebirth info.

I have struggled to use the search facilities in FH. I can use the search with thebinoculars icon to search for a name: this is OK but a bit clumsy. I have alsofound out how to search for a given record number (Ctrl-G), but usually thisfails to work unless I first click to go back to the Home person. Because I haveincorporated a one-name study, there are frequent repetitions of names. Afacility I often used in PAF was to search for all those whose first namecontained e.g. Ann AND whose date of birth fell in a range such as 1875-1880.I have tried and failed to do this in FH: at present I still have to do such a searchin PAF and then look up the individuals in FH. If you know how to dosomething like this, I would appreciate advice. Another useful part of the PAFsearch was that I could go through a list of individuals one by one (using the


down button) and at each one it shows place and year of birth and names ofspouse and parents: I found this useful in finding people and miss it in FH.I really like the facility for showing the places on a map, but this too hasproblems. I have found no guidance to tell me which version of a place namewill be acceptable, so had to proceed by trial and error. I soon found that partsof an address should be separated by commas, but there is a particular problemwith Australia: the map cannot find either Perth or Adelaide, and while itaccepts Qld, NSW and Vic as provinces, it does not accept WA or SA (it placesAdelaide, SA in the northern hemisphere: Adelaide, Australia is accepted).Sometimes one can afford to leave out the provincial name, but not always.Names such as Toronto, Montreal and Victoria, BC were not straightforward.There is sometimes a problem when there is a large concentration of names (inmy case, ‘Baslow, Sheffield’). Naming a church for a christening or a marriagecomes up as an error until I edit the entry to the form 'St Thomas,Grimesthorpe'. As I had hundreds of place names that needed editing, andthere is no direct link back from the list of addresses to the record where theyoccur (though I have now realised I can use the 'binocular' search to search forplaces and then exhibit the list of results showing record numbers), this is quitea chore. Also the program makes errors: some are bizarre, such as placing'Dalston, Middlesex' at Carlisle. But I can't blame FH for placing the registrationdistrict of Kings Norton at the village of that name whereas most of theinhabitants of the district were in Smethwick on the other side of Birmingham.

Family History Programs: Family Tree Maker Lives On!

Family Tree Maker is to continue. Software MacKiev, the firm that developed theversion of it made for Mac users, has agreed to take on both versions of theprogram. I spoke to them at Who Do You Think You Are? Live and they areclearly intent on progress, but it will be some time before new releases aremade. More information can be found on the Ancestry Blog athttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2016/02/02/good-news-for-users-of-family-tree-maker/Happy users should continue to be happy.

From the Inbox

Comments on Previous Issues: The Electronic AncestorMacclesfield member Barbara Pownall wrote:While reading your article on page 57 of the recent edition of Cheshire Ancestorabout the electronic version, I felt this is an ideal opportunity to write. I have


an old black and white Kindle and a Kindle app on my iPad which I now use.I tried to follow the instructions but with no success so opted for the papercopy. So that is my reason why. I also read with interest your grey section inthe book, but lots of it I don't understand. I am a self-taught computer userwith a few lessons many years ago.

I replied: Thanks for that Barbara. It’s still a free world out there and if youwant paper you shall have it.Nonetheless the electronic version is always there and, as a member, you’reentitled to use it. I’m not an iPad user but know that many members are ableto transfer the journal to one.Rosie wrote a piece which is still on the homepage of the FHSC website titledDownloading and Reading the Electronic Cheshire Ancestor. It specifically targetstablet users.

Regarding your last comment re Net that Serf “but lots of it I don't understand”,can you advise me on things that we could help you to understand, or topicsthat you’d like to see `aired’?

Barbara promptly bounced back with:Thank you for your reply. It’s lovely to hear from you. I can do most of myinternet via the iPad. I only switch on the computer every now and again. It'svery old and slow and hasn't had a virus update in ages so I’m bothered aboutusing it. I don't know about you but several times a week we have someone phonetelling me to log on to my computer as there are problems. I know it is a scamand my reply is always "hold on a minute, I’ll just get the engineer as he's here atthe moment". Maybe that's a future topic!Perhaps I need to come to some of your classes.

Who Owns What?I found this link interesting:www.gouldgenealogy.com/2014/12/who-owns-what-in-the-genealogy-worldIt demonstrates the alarming way that the commercial resources in the worldof genealogy are bandied around.

Ancestry Gedcom Backup: As I continually stress, people who use online inthe cloud services to store their family trees should make sure that they backthe data up onto their own systems. The following advice may be useful: howto download a GEDCOM file from Ancestry:www.gouldgenealogy.com/2015/04/how-to-download-a-gedcom-file-from-ancestry


Waiting for the 1921 CensusPeter Rowley of Runcorn says how much he’s looking forward to the release ofthe 1921 census in six years’ time. Facsimiles of the census forms are to befound online at www.1921census.org.uk and the information given is greaterthan for the 1911 census. First, the age of each person was given in years and months instead of age lastbirthday.Second, for each child under 15 years of age, it had to be stated if one or bothparents were dead or alive.Third, the birthplace had to state both county and town, and parish.Next, occupation and employment required more answers than before,including the nature of the occupation, and the name and address of thecompany of employment.Finally it sought the number and ages of all living children and step-children,less than 16 years of age, whether or not residing at the address.These questions are additional to the usual ones about name, relationship tothe head of the household and marital status.

Closing SnippetHolmes Chapel and Computer Club member Gren Dix sent me an interestingprogram link that tells you what is on your computer - try the website for BelarcAdvisor http://belarc.com/free_download.html It’s very, very informative. Itworks fine and is perfectly safe.It does not however tell me where my 3x great-grandfather came from!

Help please on Apple Mac and My Heritage. Please keep the feedback andresponses coming – GJ


Group Events and Activities

For changes and up-to-date news check the website www.fhsc.org.uk

Alsager Groupby John Higgins

Future meetings:20th Jun Baptist Church records – Claire Moores

A guide to the records for family historians.18th July Group visit: Anderton Boat LiftAugust NO MEETING19th Sept AGM followed by

Another Grand Day Out (video) - Peter Rugman andI Told You I Was Sick - John HigginsA light-hearted look at a grave subject.

Meetings take place at 7.30pm on the 3rd Monday of the month at Wesley PlaceMethodist Church Hall, Lawton Road, Alsager, ST7 2AF. Admission is £1 formembers and £1.50 for visitors. Tea, coffee and biscuits are served after the talk,when there is an opportunity to discuss family history with other members.There is a large car park (free) opposite the church.Visitors are most welcome.

Bebington Groupby Bob Wright

Future Meetings:27th June Family Life in Great-grandma’s Time – Ann Jones25th July Merseyside Entertainers – Ray O’Brien22nd Aug Wills & Probate Revisited – David Lambert

Meetings take place at 7.30pm on the 4th Monday of the month at BebingtonCivic Centre, Civic Way, CH63 7PN.

We hold a helpdesk at Bebington Library from 10am to 12pm on the 1st and3rd Thursdays of the month, where we can give individual assistance to ourmembers and the general public.


Birkenhead Groupby Diane Robinson

Future Meetings:28th June Ship Owners, Seafarers and Widows - Diane Robinson

The history of the Mariners’ Home and the two wealthy shipowners who made it possible.

26th July A Matter of Life and Death - Ken PyeThe story of Liverpool's cemeteries and burial grounds.

August NO MEETING27th Sept Group visit: Croxteth Park, Liverpool.

Meetings take place at 2pm on the 4th Tuesday of each month, except forAugust and December, in the Community Room at Birkenhead Fire Station,Exmouth Street. The room is on the first floor with access via a lift or stairs.We hold a helpdesk at Birkenhead Reference Library, Borough Road, from10am to 12 noon on the 2nd Thursday of each month.

Bramhall Groupby Susan Bickley

Future meetings:8th June Willow Grove, Our Heritage - Sheila Robins

A comprehensive account of this closed Stockport cemetery.14th July Group visit: Guided tour of St. Mary’s Church, Stockport.

Lunch afterwards at Robinsons Brewery Restaurant.11th Aug Every Time I Pass a Church - Brian Hallworth8th Sept AGM followed by

The Maiden and the Diplomat: a Georgian scandal - Eric Millward

The Bramhall Group meets at 7.30pm on the 2nd Thursday of each month inthe United Reformed Church Hall on the corner of Robins Lane and BramhallLane South, Bramhall, SK7 2PE. Admission is £2. All visitors are most welcome.

Chester Groupby Helen Elliott

Future meetings:28th Jun Co-ops are more than just shops - Gillian Lonergan

Researching the Co-operative Society.


26th July AGM, followed byCheshire Workhouses - Hayley Whitaker

August NO MEETING27th Sept Life in the Trenches - Colin Herbert

Meetings take place at 7.30pm on the last Tuesday of the month in the Loungeat the Cheshire Sports Club, Plas Newton Lane, Chester. There is a smalladmission charge and ample parking. All members and visitors welcome.We hold a helpdesk at 10am - 12noon and 1pm - 4pm on Tuesday and Fridayat Chester History & Heritage Centre, St Michael's Church, Bridge St., Chester.

Computer Group – The Society’s Computer Clubby Geoff Johnson

Meetings are open to all society members and take place at 7.30pm on the 2ndWednesday of the month at Hartford Methodist Church Hall, Beach Road,Hartford, Northwich, CW8 3AD. There is no charge - even the tea and biscuitsare free!

These informal meetings are there to help YOU. Please bring along anyproblems that you’re having difficulty resolving. We don’t guaranteeimmediate results but we’ll have a good try and at the very least we’ll providean advisory discussion.

Congleton Groupby David Smetham

Future meetings:21st June Workshop: Old Photographs: Identifying, Dating, Restoring, Using19th July Group Visit: Brereton St Oswald

Meet at 7.00pm at the ChurchAugust NO MEETING20th Sept AGM followed by:

The English Village from 1750 to the Present Day – Stuart Elliott

Meetings take place at 7.30pm on the 3rd Tuesday of each month in CongletonLibrary. Non-members are welcome. There is ample parking and access to theLibrary is by the lower entrance.


Crewe Groupby Margaret Spate

Future meetings:14th June Demonstration of the new FHSC website

More details will be announced on the website nearer the time.12th July The Villiers Russell Twins: Crewe’s most commemorated war

casualties – Mark Potts.A chance meeting on the 100th anniversary of the twins’ deaths ledto the unearthing of photographs and further information abouttheir lives.This is a rescheduled meeting following April’s cancellation.

August NO MEETING13th Sept AGM and members’ evening

New venue for meetings is Studio 3, Lifestyle Centre, Crewe, CW1 2BJ. Freeparking under the library building from 6pm.

Crewe Family History UnitContinuous support is much appreciated. Come and visit our new home -details in the article and advert in this issue.We are open 10am – 4pm Monday and Tuesday at the Municipal Building(second floor), Earle Street, Crewe, CW1 2BJ. Please sign in at main receptionfirst and then take the lift or stairs to the second floor.

Macclesfield Groupby Jean Laidlaw

Future Meetings:28th Jun WWI Conscientious Objectors - Pat Baker and Celia Davies.

Conscription into the British Army was introduced for the firsttime in 1916. What happened to those who refused to fight?

26th Jul Group visit: details to be confirmed. 23rd Aug Cheshire Dialect and Proverbs - Tom Hughes.

Discover the old vocabulary from Cheshire along with sometraditional sayings and even some intriguing insults.

27th Sep Short AGM, followed byAny Questions? Research SessionBring your family history problems to the meeting and we’ll try tosolve them; or use our books and laptops to do some research, withhelp from other members.


Unless otherwise stated, meetings are held on the 4th Tuesday of the month atThe Salvation Army Hall, Roe Street, Macclesfield, SK11 6UT. Doors open at7.15pm and meetings start at 7.30pm. Entry is through the new main doorfacing the Churchill Way car park, and we meet in the ground floor room.Admission is £2 including refreshments and a ticket for the FHSC members -only draw for a small gift.For the latest news, please see our pages on the FHSC website www.fhsc.org.uk- click on FHSC Groups and then Macclesfield.A monthly update and reminder about meetings is emailed to subscribers toour email list. If you would like to be added to our list, please send a requestto [email protected].

Macclesfield ReflectsWWI projectThe Macclesfield Reflects project is discovering the stories of those who livedin the Macclesfield area during the Great War - not just the servicemen - toensure they are not forgotten. If you have any information or would like to helpwith research, transcribing old newspaper articles or on the event helpdesks,please email Rosie Rowley on [email protected]. More informationcan be found on the website at www.macclesfieldreflects.org.uk

Middlesex Groupby David Smetham (FHSC Chairman)Is there a member in the London area who would like to take over the runningof this group? Support will be provided to a willing volunteer. The keyactivities will be to arrange a venue and meeting topics. If any member wouldlike to attend a meeting in London please contact me - [email protected].

Nantwich Groupby Dave Higham

Future meetings:21st June The History of Rolls Royce at Crewe - Peter Ollerhead19th July AGM followed by

The History of the Anderson Boat Lift - David ThomasAugust NO MEETING20th Sept tbc

Meetings are held on the 3rd Tuesday of the month at the Nantwich MethodistCentre, Hospital Street, Nantwich. Doors open at 7pm for a 7.30pm start.Admission £1.50 for members, £2 for non-members, including refreshments.There is ample parking in The Gullet car park. Visitors are very welcome.


Northwich Groupby Dave Thomas

Future meetings:13th June Norton Priory - Tom Hughes

This historic site includes remains of an abbey dating back to the12th century.

11th July Group visit: St.Chad's Church, Over, Swanlow Lane, WinsfordCW7 4DA. Meet at 7pm.Tony Bostock will give a talk on this 14th c Grade II listed building.

8th Aug Tatton Dale Farm - Dave ThomasHistory of this rare breeds designated visitor centre.

Meetings are held on the 2nd Monday of the month at Hartford MethodistChurch Hall, Beach Road, Hartford, Northwich CW8 3AB. Doors open at 7pmfor a 7.30pm start. Admission is £1 for members and £2 for non-members, whowill be made most welcome. Car park available.

Runcorn Groupby Peter Johnson

Future meetings:1st June Liverpool Cow Keepers - David Joy6th July AGM followed by

World War One Myths - Tony Miller3rd Aug Breach of Promise to Marry - Denise Bates7th Sept Dating Family Photos - Gordon Roxby

Meetings take place at 7.30 pm on the 1st Wednesday of the month at ChurchillHall, Cooper Street, Runcorn, WA7 1DH. Non-members very welcome.We now have Wi-Fi and FindMyPast to use on research nights or after thespeaker.For details of our weekly help desks contact Maurice Littlemore on 01928 572303.

Tameside Groupby Gay Oliver

Future Meetings:8th June Researching the Adsheads of Stalybridge - Gordon Adshead

How a one-name study can really help


13th July Group visit: venue tbc, probably to Stockport Hatworks10th Aug Irish Family History (tbc)14th Sept AGM, followed by talk – topic and speaker tbc

Please visit the FHSC website nearer the date for details of the meetings thatare still to be confirmed.

Meetings are held on the 2nd Wednesday of the month in the Old ChapelSchoolrooms, Dukinfield - doors open at 7pm. There is disabled access andboth members and non-members are welcome. Admission is £2 for members,£2.50 non-members.

Why not come along to one of our helpdesk sessions in Tameside Local Studiesand Archives Centre on the 1st and 3rd Tuesdays each month between 2pmand 4pm, where our team of experts can help you to break down thosebrickwalls or get started from scratch.

Tarporley GroupBy Jan Craig

Future meetings:1st June To be arranged6th Jul To be arranged3rd Aug To be arranged7th Sept To be arranged

Meetings are held at 7.30pm on the 1st Wednesday of the month at LittleBudworth Village Hall, Booth Avenue, Little Budworth, CW6 9BU. Non-groupmembers and visitors are very welcome to attend.

Wallasey Groupby Dave Beck

Future meetings:21st June The Old Mill – Ken Clark

A look at the workings of wind and water mills, especially thoseof Wirral.

19th July AGM followed byInternet researching for free – Alison WilliamsHow to research your family tree on the Internet without paying afortune on subscriptions.


16th Aug Confessions of a Probation Officer – Ray O’BrienRay was a Probation Officer for nearly 25 years before taking earlyretirement, and his duties involved working in a variety oflocations on Merseyside including Liverpool (Walton) Prison. Thisis a mainly humorous talk based on personal experiences.

20th Sep Members’ Evening

Meetings are held at 7.30pm on the 3rd Tuesday of the month (exceptDecember) at Claremount Methodist Church, Claremount Road, WallaseyCH45 6UE. Access via car park in Taunton Road. Visitors are always welcome.

We hold a helpdesk from 10am to 1pm on the 2nd and 4th Friday of eachmonth, at the Wallasey Central Reference Library, Earlston Road, WallaseyCH45 5DX. At these helpdesks we are able to give individual help with familyhistory research. All members and non-members are welcome.

West Wirral Groupby David Callaghan

Future Meetings:8th June Hoylake Fishing Families: an illustrated talk - Carol Hunter

The lives and losses of these brave souls, many of whom areCarol’s direct ancestors (talk postponed from April).

13th July AGM and short talks from members10th Aug Group Visit14th Sept Cheshire Maps & Mapmakers: an illustrated talk - Jonathan Pepler

The group meets on the 2nd Wednesday of each month (excluding August andDecember) at Westbourne Community Centre, Westbourne Road, West Kirby,CH48 4DQ commencing at 2pm (helpdesk from 1.30pm). Admission £1.50 formembers and £2.00 for visitors.

Helpdesks are held at the following libraries:Heswall 1st Monday of the Month 10.00am to 1.00pmWest Kirby 2nd Monday of the Month 10.00am to 1.00pmUpton 2nd Tuesday of the Month 9.30am to 12.30pm

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Please check the label on the mailing envelope. Thisshows your membership number and subscriptionrenewal date. All subscriptions need to be alignedto 1st July—please ensure your subscriptionamount (see last page of journal) & renewal arecorrect. The additional numbers are “sortnumbers” used by our mailing agency. If youchange your postal or email address, please adviseMaurice Stokes.

If you do not wish your address to be storedon the Society’s computer database ofmembers’ interests, then please inform themembership renewals officer (see inside frontcover).The "M" Team

CHESHIRE ANCESTOR 72 June 2016

Recently deceased members

382 NO Mrs J Danes KT17 2HF8733 TS Mr D Deeley SK14 6PX3870 TA Mr J H Shaw L37 3PS1462 UN Mrs P Sheppard WA15 8SN3066 RU Mr J B Eastup WA7 4AE4725 Mrs H Booth SK6 1LJ

Obituary – Heather Booth

It is with great sadness that we report the death of Heather Booth, of Woodley,Stockport, on January 5th 2016.

Heather was Enrolment Officer for many years and was a great help andsupport to the society. She assisted at our Family History Fairs and also entereda lot of data for the Cheshire Farm Index.

She leaves a husband and two sons and will be greatly missed.


New Members

9209 UN Tania BURGESS Australia9210 UN Mr Allan GOODYER Australia9211 MC Mr Keith COOPER High Peak9212 CR Mr Ernest JONES Cheshire9213 BR Mrs Penny WRIGHT Cheshire9214 NO Mrs Gail COENEN Cheshire9215 UN Mr David ATKINSON Cheshire9216 BK Mr Kevin LYTTON Merseyside9217 UN Mrs Jean & Mr Brian HOWE Cheshire9218 MC Mrs Judith Ann OGDEN Cheshire9219 NO Mr David KING Cheshire9220 UN Mr Victor TAYLOR Cheshire9221 UN Mr Rupert Charles WILCOX-BAKER Cheshire9222 WW Mrs E. Ann KERNIGHAN Merseyside9223 NO Mr T. & Mrs Z. RICHARDS Cheshire9224 WW Miss Alison REYNOLDS Wiltshire9225 CR Mr Andrew Joseph MOONEY Cheshire9226 UN Mrs Marilyn Anne CHEESEMAN Kent9227 UN Mrs Pamela WALKER New Zealand9228 UN Mr Adrian COPLEY Cheshire9229 CR Mrs Denise OLDFIELD Cheshire9230 UN Mrs Elizabeth HOSKING Cheshire9231 CO Mrs Jennifer URQUHART Cheshire9232 MC Mrs Sally HOARE Cheshire9233 CO Mr David A. LAMBERT U.S.A.

We welcome the following new members to our society and wish them successin their research:


Both locations offer free access to FindMyPast, The Genealogist and Ancestrywebsites, and hold a large collection of microfilms, microfiche, books anddocuments. Manned by experienced volunteers, visitors can obtain help andadvice on family and local history research. Do you have your own microfichebut no reader? Bring them to us and view them using our fiche readers!

CREWE FAMILY HISTORY UNIT

2nd Floor, Municipal Building,Earle Street, Crewe, CW1 2BJTel 01270 685699

The Municipal Building is situated nearthe Market and opposite MemorialSquare and the old Library (where theFHU was previously housed). Crewe

Register Office is in the same building.All visitors must sign in (and out) at Reception and will be directed to thesecond floor - a lift is available.

FREE access to FindMyPast, Ancestry and The GenealogistLocal Parish Registers on film - Extensive Library of Books

Crewe and District and South East Cheshire local history archivesSee the Crewe FHU Library Holdings lists on the FHSC website

Opening Hours: 10am-4pm Monday and Tuesdayone Saturday morning monthly (dates on FHSC website)

Please refer to the FHSC website www.fhsc.org.uk for holiday closure dates.

Non-members visiting forthe first time will be offered(for a small donation) timewith a volunteer to explainthe facilities available andadvice on family historyresearch. Membership ofthe Society is encouragedfor further visits.

The Society’s Family History Research Centres


MOBBERLEY FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH CENTRE

Rajar Building, Town Lane,Mobberley, WA16 7ERTel: 01565 872210

The Rajar Building is situated on the cornerof Town Lane (A5085) and Ilford Way. Theentrance is at the front of the building onTown Lane, and the Research Centre is onthe first floor (access by stairs - no lift).

FREE help and advice from our experienced duty volunteers

FREE access to FindMyPast, Ancestry and The Genealogist

Local Parish Registers on film (some of which are not available online)Extensive library of books on all topics, covering many areas of the UK

See the Mobberley Library Holdings lists on the FHSC website

Nominal charge for printing and photocopyingLarge tree printing, fiche/film and A3 scanning available – please enquire.

Opening hours: Monday-Friday 10am-4pm; closed on bank holidays.Please refer to the FHSC website www.fhsc.org.uk for holiday closure dates.

Bus stop (Bucklow Ave) just a few yards away for the new half-hourly GHACoaches no. 88 bus between Altrincham and Knutsford via Wilmslow RailwayStation and Bank Square; journey time from Knutsford 10 mins, and fromWilmslow 20 mins.Timetables at www.ghacoaches.co.uk/timetables/88-2/

On-street parking available nearby.

Admission charges apply. Non-members welcome but preferablyshould phone in advance. Non-memberentry fee £5, refundable on joining the Societyon day of visit.

FREE hot drinks and biscuits. Sandwichesand snacks may be purchased nearby.


ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION RATESUK INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP with a printed CHESHIRE ANCESTOR - £18.00UK INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP with an electronic CHESHIRE ANCESTOR - £13.00 UK FAMILY GROUP MEMBERSHIP (all at the same address)

Above rates plus £2.00 per familyOVERSEAS MEMBERSHIP with an electronic CHESHIRE ANCESTOR - £13.00Special arrangements will be made for overseas members who want a printed copy.The Society year commences on 1st July.Membership commences on the day of receipt of an application.

• New members joining between 1st July and the following 31st Marchinclusive will receive all the four journals of that financial year;renewal date is 1st July following joining date.• New members joining between 1st April and 30th June will receivea complimentary journal and their membership will extend until30th June of the following year.

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Cheques, etc., should be made payable to “FHS of Cheshire”.Please ensure your renewal date is set to 1st July.

New member applications should be sent to Membership Enrolments:Mrs Sue McNulty, 59 Cedarway, Bollington, Macclesfield SK10 5NR

Renewals, or changes of address, should be sent to Membership Renewals:Maurice Stokes, 19 North Drive, High Legh, Knutsford WA16 6LX

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Final copy dates for the CHESHIRE ANCESTOR are 15th day of January, April, Julyor October. The earlier material is submitted, the more help it is to our editor.Articles accepted digitally (preferably MS Word or Open Office format) on diskor by email, or as typescript or manuscript (address inside front cover).Images preferred in JPEG format at 300dpi: please do not post originals.Unused articles will be carried over to a later edition of the CHESHIRE ANCESTOR.

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CHAIRMANDavid Smetham,Little TreesGawsworth RoadGawsworthMacclesfield SK11 9RATel: 01625 [email protected]

HONORARY SECRETARYHoward Martin2 Roxburgh CloseMacclesfield SK10 3QETel: 01625 [email protected]

HONORARYTREASURERVictoria Doran9 Birkett RoadWest KirbyWirral CH48 5HTTel: 0151 345 [email protected]

HONORARY EDITOR Rosie Rowley21 Lavenham CloseMacclesfield SK10 [email protected]

JOURNALDISTRIBUTIONJohn Lord17 Rowan DriveCheadle HulmeCheadle SK8 7DUTel: 0161 486 [email protected]

PUBLICITY OFFICERPeter Johnson57 Helston CloseBrookvaleRuncorn WA7 6AATel: 07769 [email protected]

OFFICERS OF THE SOCIETYMOBBERLEY RESEARCH CENTRE REPRESENTATIVEAlan E Jones7 Beaufort CloseAlderley Edge SK9 7HUTel: 01625 [email protected]

LIBRARIANJoan Irving62 Orme CrescentMacclesfield SK10 2HSTel: 01625 [email protected]

RESEARCH ADVISERRichard Corbett113 Saughall RoadChester CH1 5ETTel: 01244 [email protected]

MEMBERSHIP(RENEWALS & GIFT AID)Maurice Stokes19 North DriveHigh LeghKnutsford WA16 6LXTel: 01925 [email protected]

MEMBERSHIP(ENROLMENT)Sue McNulty59 CedarwayBollingtonMacclesfield SK10 5NR(new members only)[email protected]

PROJECTSADMINISTRATORLesley SmethamLittle TreesGawsworth RoadGawsworthMacclesfield SK11 9RATel: 01625 426173

ELECTRONIC PROJECTSPeter DavenportGlensideOne Oak LaneWilmslow SK9 2BLTel: 01625 [email protected]

CHESHIREBMD &UKBMDIan Hartas [email protected]

CD/FICHE SALES &FICHE LOAN SERVICELen Davenport10 Daleswood AvenueWhitefieldManchester M45 [email protected]

BOOK SALES & OUTSIDE EVENTSDavid Johnson91 Stretford HouseChapel LaneStretfordManchester M32 9AYTel: 0161 864 [email protected]

WEBMASTERAlan Bennett8 Barford DriveLowtonWarrington WA3 1DDTel: 0161 408 [email protected]

ALSAGER GROUPPeter Rugman157 Sandbach Road NorthAlsagerCheshire ST7 2AX.Tel: 01270 [email protected]

BEBINGTON GROUPBob Wright9 Lough GreenBebingtonWirral CH63 9NHTel: 0151 334 [email protected]

BIRKENHEAD GROUPDiane Robinson,2 Colville Road,Wallasey, CH44 2AS.Tel: 0151 639 [email protected]

BRAMHALL GROUPIan BickleyLumb CottageLumb LaneBramhallStockport SK7 2BATel: 0161 439 5021. [email protected]

CHESTER GROUPDavid GuytonSpringfield22 Lache LaneChester CH4 7LRTel: 01244 [email protected]

NORTHWICH GROUPDave Thomas1 Arley CourtWrenbury DriveNorthwich CW9 8RXTel:01606 [email protected]

RUNCORN GROUPLinda Finnigan10 Ashbourne AvenueRuncorn WA7 4XYTel: 01928 [email protected]

TAMESIDE GROUPGay Oliver26 Woodville DriveStalybridge SK15 3EATel: 0161 338 [email protected]

TARPORLEY GROUPJan Craig10 Dunns LaneAshton HayesChester CH3 8BUTel: 01829 [email protected]

WALLASEY GROUPSheila Hamilton10 Church GardensWallaseyCH44 [email protected]

WEST WIRRAL GROUPCarol Hunter8 Westbourne RoadWest KirbyWirral CH48 4DGTel: 0151 625 [email protected]

COMPUTER GROUPGeoff Johnson,Garth Nook, Well Lane,Little Budworth, Tarporley CW6 9DATel: 01829 [email protected]

CONGLETON GROUPDavid SmethamLittle TreesGawsworth RdGawsworthMacclesfield SK11 9RATel: 01625 [email protected]

CREWE GROUPMargaret Spate, FHSC Crewe GroupMunicipal Building(second floor)Earle StreetCrewe CW1 [email protected]

MACCLESFIELD GROUPJean Laidlaw47 Sycamore CrescentMacclesfield SK11 [email protected]

MIDDLESEX [email protected]

NANTWICH GROUPDavid Higham1 Heywoods RidgeAudlemCW3 0EFTel: 01270 [email protected]

GROUP CONTACTS

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The Journal of theFamily History Society of Cheshire

Volume 46 June 2016 Issue No. 4ISSN 1460-0277

GROUP FOCUSMembers may attend the meetings of any of the Society’s groups.If travelling some distance to attend a particular talk, please check withthe FHSC website or the group leader in case of a last-minute change.

In this editionSillitoe Butchers and Cheshire Cheesemaking Book Reviews

The Battle of Jutland What the Papers Said in 1816Certificate Exchange Victorian Manchester Revelations

Summoned to Knutsford Court and more...

ALSAGER GROUP

The Alsager Group meetsat 7.30pm on the 3rd

Monday of the month atWesley Place

Methodist Church Hall,Lawton Road,Alsager, ST7 2AF

See page 64 for full details.

Future Alsager Group Meetings20th June: Baptist Church records18th July: Group visit to Anderton Boat LiftAugust: NO MEETING19th Sept: AGM followed by

Another Grand Day Out (video) andI Told You I Was Sick -

A Light-hearted Look at a Grave Subject

CHESHIRE ANCESTOR printed by: Deanprint Ltd., Cheadle Heath Works, Stockport SK3 0PR

The Family History Society of Cheshirewww.fhsc.org.uk

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