Banishing and Discernment

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    Banishing and Discernment

    Quoting: |a dear friend

    |...I don't think the spirits would be|*that* oended at being brought into a space for the sake of some kind|of transaction and then invited to leave again.

    Perhaps I don't know the spirits well enough then to have this sort ofrelationship with them. I'm watching other people to hear what the! sa!and where the!'ve come from that we are dierent in our actions.

    |" I guess I #ust don't feel the same wa! about those beings which have

    |" #oined with me as tools and those entities$energies which I have not|" asked to be in such a relationship. ...%ometimes I am re#ected.|" %ometimes I do not feel right about the energ! regardless. I do not|" force m! will in these matters.||&hat if the! force theirs

    I have never been forced or violated b! an! spirit of which I was aware.Perhaps I am immune or simpl! ignorant as to their activities. I've notoften felt fear about the elementals or dragons with whom I frolickedand I've never been the sub#ect of violation within the astral plane assome apparentl! have ()ortune for instance. I've wrestled +uardiansof +ates and had them pin me down until I relented m! assault. ,et this

    was dierent. &e made love and merged in a wa! I never could have ifI had not gone to that place and !ielded m! antagonism$fear.

    |I think that -athor is much stronger than I. If I invite her into m!|home and she doesn't want to come she won't come....

    ,es m! interaction and relationship with the gods is much dierent itsounds. I cannot 'invite a god into m! home' since for me the gods arearound me (as well as making me up and being within me all the time.It alwa!s sounded uite strange to me to hear people speak of 'invokinggods' and mean b! this some sort of possession like I hear about in horror

    /lms and b! the less eclectic neo0fricans.

    &hen I sa! 'invoking' I mean b! it a coming to deep awareness of the godwho is right here all the time1 of manifesting a certain aspect of thedivine presence within personalit! *m! personalit!* the personalit! ofthe world. )or me 'to invoke' indicates an I2&034 5066 more than a'calling something into me'. I send m! will into m!self and gathertogether the energies surrounding that godname. I seldom feel as ifsome sort of e7ternal entit! comes to reside in m! bod!.

    I've been to rituals in which people have 'become possessed'. It wasver! strange to me. 8he! took on a completel! dierent (and !etsubtlel! similar personae. I interacted with them and found the

    e7perience #arring and at once familiar. 8he! called out of me a t!peof energ! which I can onl! relate to %iva the ascetic monk. I watchedin silence in m! half9lotus. I think that is one of m! fear reactions

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    to the unknown (withdrawal into asceticism and !et this same energ!this same e7perience I have felt when I 'invoked' beings like !rddin.

    |...the gods are certainl! willing to take part or|else the! wouldn't deign to appear. 8hat's alwa!s been m! e7perience...

    &hat is it about the e7perience which tells !ou that the! *are* appearingI mean how do !ou know (and I'm not tr!ing to impl! an!thing I'm curiousthat !ou aren't making it all up in !our imagination and that this god9business is a wa! to understand it so that !ou'll feel oka! about it

    |I guess that's wh! I see a possible problem with !our approach: !our|will *is* important and it needs to be a vital part of whatever ritual|is going on.

    I tend to keep m! will to m!self and not appl! it e7cept within m! 5ircle.;! 'm! 5ircle' I mean m! direct sphere of in