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LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF THE NORTHERN TERRITORY

2018 Estimates Committee

Associated Minutes of Proceedings

2018 Estimates Committee Report

June 2018

LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF THE NORTHERN TERRITORY13th Assembly


Minutes of Proceedings

Meeting No. 1

1.00pm, Tuesday, 10 April 2018Litchfield Room

Present: Ms Sandra Nelson, MLA, Member for Katherine (via telephone)Ms Selena Uibo MLA, Member for Arnhem (via telephone)Mr Gary Higgins MLA, Member for Daly (via telephone)Mr Terry Mills MLA, Member for BlainMs Kate Warden, Member for SandersonMr Paul Kirby, Member for Port DarwinMr Gerry Wood, Member for Nelson (via telephone)

Staff: Russell Keith, First Clerk Assistant and Secretary of the CommitteeJulia Knight, Committee SecretaryElise Dyer, Senior Research OfficerAnnie McCall, Administration/Research Officer

1. ELECTION OF THE CHAIR

The Secretary called for nominations for Chair.

Ms Nelson nominated Ms Uibo to be Chair of the Committee. Mrs Warden seconded thenomination.

As there were no other nominations, the Secretary declared Ms Uibo to be elected Chair of theCommittee.

2. ELECTION OF THE DEPLHTY CHAIR

The Chair called for nominations for Deputy Chair.

Mrs Warden nominated Ms Nelson to be Deputy Chair of the Committee. Mr Kirby secondedthe nomination.

Mr Wood nominated Mr Higgins to be Deputy Chair of the Committee. Mr Mills seconded thenomination.

As a number of Members were participating in the meeting by telephone, the Chair obtainedthe consent of all Members to conduct an open ballot. Votes for Ms Nelson were four and votesfor Mr Higgins were three.

The Chair declared Ms Nelson to be elected Deputy Chair of the Committee.

3. MEDIA RELEASES

Mrs Warden moved and Mr Wood seconded that:

That pursuant to Standing Order 194(4), the Committee authorises the Chair of theCommittee, with the approval of the majority of the Committee Members, to issue mediareleases and give briefings on matters relating to its inquiry.

Question put and passed.

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4. SCHEDULE OF DAYS AND TIMES OF HEARINGS

The Committee agreed:

That the Committee hold 60 hours of Estimates hearings 12, 13, 14, 18, 19 and 20 June2018.

The Committee directed the secretariat to circulate via email the draft Estimate Hearingsschedule developed by Mr Higgins.

5. NEXT MEETING

Monday, 16 April 2018 at 9am

Meeting dosed at 13.30 pm

Ms Selena Uibo, MLA

Chair

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Minutes of Proceedings

Meeting No. 2

9.10 am, Monday, 16 April 2018Litchfield Room

Present: Ms Selena Uibo MLA, Member for Arnhem, Chair (via telephone)Ms Sandra Nelson, MLA, Member for Katherine, Deputy ChairMr Gary Higgins MLA, Member for DalyMr Terry Mills MLA, Member for BlainMr Paul Kirby MLA, Member for Port DarwinMr Jeff Collins MLA, Member for Fong Urn (substitute for Member forSanderson)

Apologies: Mrs Kate Warden MLA, Member for SandersonMr Gerry Wood MLA, Member for Nelson

Staff: Russell Keith, First Clerk Assistant and Secretary of the CommitteeJulia Knight, Committee SecretaryElise Dyer, Senior Research OfficerAnnie McCall, Administration/Research OfficerSean O'Connor, Clerk Assistant Chamber and Serjeant at Arms

1. MEETING

Mrs Warden and Mr Wood were an apology.

The Chair advised that pursuant to Sessional Order 15 Mr Collins was nominated in writing tothe Speaker to attend this meeting as a substitute for Mrs Warden.

The Committee Secretary advised Mr O'Connorwas observing as he would be involved inEstimates process support.

2. MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETING 1

Ms Nelson moved and Mr Mills seconded:

That the Minutes of Meeting Number 1 be confirmed.


3. SCHEDULE OF CONSIDERATION OF OUTPUTS

Ms Uibo moved and Ms Nelson seconded that:

That the Committee agrees to adopt and publish a schedule for consideration of outputsto be circulated by the Chair, subject to no Member raising any objection to its adoptionwithin 24 hours of its circulation.


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4. ELECTORAL COMMISSIONER

Mr Collins moved and Mr Higgins seconded that:

That the Electoral Commissioner be invited to appear only once, during the ChiefMinister's appearance, and any questions relating to his responsibilities under the LocalGovernment Act can be directed to him at that time.


5. INDEPENDENT OFFICERS

The Committee decided that all independent officers must be available to appear and theCommittee will determine which independent officers will appear closer to the hearing date.

6. PROCEDURAL MATTERS

Mr Mills moved and Mr Collins seconded that:

The Committee agrees to continue the practice of questions first being asked by ShadowMinisters, then Independent Members, then Committee Members, then other participatingMembers, with Members being given leave to ask intervening questions that follow a lineof questioning commenced.


7. NEXT MEETING

7.50 am on Tuesday, 12 June 2018 for Hearings commencing 8 am, unless earlier convenedby the Chair.

Meeting cLoaed at 9.30 am

Ms Selena Uibo, MLA

Chair

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2018 ESTIMATES COMMITTEEMINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 3

Day No. 1 of Estimates Hearings

8.00 am, Tuesday, 12 June 2018Litchfield Room

Committee Members

Ms Selena Uibo MLA, Member for Amhem (Chair)Ms Sandra Nelson MLA, Member for Katherine (Deputy Chair)Mr Gary Higgins MLA, Member for DalyMr Paul Kirby MLA, Member for Port DarwinMr Terry Mills MLA, Member for BlainMr Gerry Wood MLA, Member for NelsonMrs Kate Warden MLA, Member for Sanderson

Participating Members

Mr Yingiya Mark Guyula MLA, Member for NhulunbuyMrs Robyn Lambley MLA, Member for Araluen

1. Hon Kezia Purick MLA: Speaker

Witnesses

Name

Michael TathamMarianne Conaty

Diem Tang

Hearing commenced.

PositionClerkDeputy ClerkChief Financial Officer

AgencyDepartment of the Legislative AssemblyDepartment of the Legislative AssemblyDepartment of the Legislative Assembly

Tabled Papers

No. Output Title1-1 1-2 Assembly Meeting Statistics

Hearing concluded.

2. Hon Nicole Manison MLA: Treasurer

Witnesses

Name

Craig GrahamDavid Braines-Mead

Catherine WeberTim McManusMick ButlerAlex Pollon

PositionUnder Treasurer

Deputy Under Treasurer (Policy)Deputy Under Treasurer (Corporate)Assistant Under Treasurer (Finance)Assistant Under Treasurer (Revenue)

General Manager Northern Territory TreasuryCorporation

AgencyTreasury and Finance

Treasury and Finance





Hearing commenced.

Suspension of Hearing: The hearing of the Estimate Committee was suspended between 12.00 and 12.30.

Hearing resumed.

Questions Taken on Notice

No. Output From

2-1 2-1 MrHiggins

2-2 2-1 Mr Higgins

2-3

2-4

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2-7

2-8

2-1

5-1

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6-1

6-1

6-1

Mr WoodMrHigginsMr HigginsMrHigginsMr HigginsMrHiggins

SubjectSustainable Service Provision

Cost of Northcrest ProjectProfitability of Government Owned Corporations andCommunity Service Obligation FundingCost of Capital for Power and Water CorporationICT ExpenditureICT Service Contractors - Fly-in Fly-out employees

Other Property ExpensesInvestments in Treasury Bonds

Answered

Yes

Yes

Yes

NoNoNoNoNo

Tabled Papers

No. Output2-1 1-1

2-2 6-1

2-3 2-1

2-4 2-1

TitlePipeline of Major ProjectsNTDIF ExpenditureAnswer to QON 2-2

Answer to QON 2-3

Hearing concluded.

3. Hon Nicole Manison MLA: Minister for Infrastructure, Planning and Logistics

Witnesses

Name

Andrew Kirkman

Fotis PapadakisLeah CliffordJohn Hamson

Louise McCormick

Simon Saunders

Hearing commenced.

PositionChief ExecutiveChief Financial OfficerDeputy Chief ExecutiveActing General Manager Infrastructure,Investment and Contracts

General Manager Transport and CivilServices

Executive Director Transport SafetyServices

AgencyInfrastructure,

Infrastructure,

Infrastructure,

Planning and LogisticsPlanning and LogisticsPlanning and Logistics

Infrastructure, Planning and Logistics




No.

2-9

2-10

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2-12

2-13

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2-17

OutputOpeningStatement

OpeningStatement

9-1

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9-1

9-1

9-2

10-1

From

Mrs Lambley

Mr Higgins

Mr Wood

Mr WoodMr HigginsMrHigginsMr WoodMrHigginsMr Wood

Subject AnsweredReduction in taxi Licence fees Yes

Impact of ridesharing on the number of taxi drivers in Yesthe NTDrainage Works from the Holtze (Palmerston) hospital Yesto Mitchell CreekCar park Upgrade Howard Springs Nature Park YesConstruction of and Upgrades to Health Centres Yes

Alpurrumlam Morgue No

Truck Central Sewerage System No

Revote Project List NoInfrastructure Connection Bemmah North No

Tabled Papers

No. Output Title2-5 Opening Answer to QON 2-9

Statement2-6 Opening Answer to QON 2-10

Statement2-7 9-1 Answer to QON 2-11

2-8 9-1 Answer to QON 2-12

Hearing concluded.

Adjournment of Hearing: The Estimates Committee adjourned at 17.30 until 13 June 2018 at 8.00.

Ms Selena Uibo MLAChair

Esmms



Meeting No. 4


8.00 am, Wednesday, 13 June 2018Litchfield Room

Committee Members

Ms Selena Uibo MLA, Member for Arnhem (Chair)Ms Sandra Nelson MLA, Member for Katherine (Deputy Chair)Mr Gary Higgins MLA, Member for DalyMr Paul Kirby MLA, Member for Port DarwinMr Terry Mills MLA, Member for BlainMr Gerry Wood MLA, Member for NelsonMrs Kate Warden MLA, Member for Sanderson


Yingiya Mark Guyula MLA, Member for NhulunbuyRobyn Lambley MLA, Member for AraluenLia Finocchiaro MLA, Member for Spillett

1. Hon Michael Gunner MLA: Chief Minister

AgencyAuditor-General's Office

Witnesses

Name

Julie Crisp

Hearing commenced.

Hearing concluded.

Witnesses

Name

lain Loganathan

PositionAuditor-General

PositionElectoral Commissioner

AgencyNT Electoral Commission

Hearing commenced.


No. Output From Subject Answered

3-1 4-1 Mr Higgins ICT Expenditure No

Hearing concluded.

Witnesses

Name Position AgencyPeter Shoyer Ombudsman OmbudsmanNT

Hearing commenced.

Hearing concluded.

Witnesses

Name

Jodie RyanMaria MohrAndrew Cowan

PositionChief Executive OfficerDeputy Chief Executive OfficerDeputy Chief Executive Officer

AgencyDept of the Chief MinisterDept of the Chief MinisterDept of the Chief Minister

Hearing commenced.

Suspension of Hearing: The hearing of the Estimate Committee was suspended between 12.00 and 12.30

Hearing resumec1.

Questions Taken

No.

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Output7-2

9-1

9-1

9-1

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on No

From

MsMr IMr IMrlMr IMr I

UiboHigginsHigginsHigginsHigginsHiggins

SubjectBudget for First Circles Leadership programReduction in staffing -Alice Springs and Tennant CreekGovernment agreement with Unions NT

Increased advertising costs

ICT ExpenditureBullying Claims

Answered

NoNoNoNoNoNo

Tabled Papers

No. Output Title7-2 The Barunga Agreement3-1

3-2 7-2 Yugul Mangi Development Aboriginal Corporation- NT Government Multi AgencyPartnership

Hearing concluded.

2. Hon Michael Gunner MLA: Minister for Police, Fire and Emergency Services

Witnesses

AgencyName

Reece P Kershaw APM

Michael Willis

Mark Spain

Hearing commenced.

PositionCommissioner for Police and ChiefExecutive Officer of Fire andEmergency Services

Executive Director, OperationalSupport DirectorateActing Executive Director, NorthernTerritory Fire, Rescue and EmergencyServices

Police, Fire and Emergency Services




No.

3-8

3-9

3-10

3-11

3-12

3-13

3-14

Output12-1

12-1

12-1

12-1

12-1

12-1

12-1

From

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs LambleyMrs Finocchiaro

SubjectPolice force separations

Number of police officers by rankNightcliff Police Station tenderBudget expectation for overtime

Police Engagement OfficersNumber of police suspended

Number of arrests made for breach of bail

Answered

Yes

NoNoNoNoNoNo


No. Output From3-15

3.16

3.173-18

3-19

3-20

3-21

3-22

12-1

12-1

12-1

12-1

12-1

12-1

12-1

12-1

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mr Wood

Subject AnsweredNumber of police officers assigned to Palmerston, NoCasuarina and Darwin

Number of people taken into protective custody NoNumber of times police used arrest powers No

Number of flight hours provided to Government NoMinisters by NT PoliceAmount spent on police prosecutors in financial year No2017-18Amount spent on prisoner escorts No

Police officers assigned to traffic units NoNumber of vehicles seized for hooning No

Hearing concluded.





Meeting No. 5


8.00 am, Thursday 14 June 2018Litchfield Room

Committee Members

Ms Selena Uibo MLA, Member for Arnhem (Chair)Ms Sandra Nelson MLA, Member for Katherine (Deputy Chair)Mrs Lia Finocchiaro MLA, Member for Spillett (substituting for Mr Higgins)Mr Gary Higgins MLA, Member for DalyMr Paul Kirby MLA, Member for Port DarwinMr Terry Mills MLA, Member for BlainMr Gerry Wood MLA, Member for Nelson

Mrs Kate Worden MLA, Member for Sanderson


Mr Yingiya Mark Guyula MLA, Member for NhulunbuyMrs Robyn Lambley MLA, Member for Araluen

Member SubstitutionIn accordance with a letter from the Government Whip to the Speaker received 14 June 2018, MrsFinocchiaro substituted for Mr Higgins for the examination of the Attorney-General and Minister for Justiceand the Minister for Health.

1. Hon Natasha Fyles: Attorney-General and Minister for Justice

Witnesses

Name

Meredith DayCraig SmythJacqueline DowlingJenni Daniel-Yee

Rob Steer

Leanne LiddleRos Chenoweth

Chris Cox

Sally SieversBrenda Monaghan

Colleen Gwynne

Sally Ozolins

PositionActing Chief Executive OfficerActing Deputy Chief Executive OfficerChief Finance OfficerActing Executive Director, LegalServices

Acting Commissioner, NorthernTerritory Correctional Sen/ices

Director Aboriginal Justice UnitDirector of the Crime Victims ServicesUnitExecutive Director, Courts andTribunalsCommissioner

Commissioner

Commissioner

Deputy Director-General (Operations)

AgencyDept of the Attorney-General and Justice

Dept of the Attorney-General and Justice







AnthDiscrimination Commission

Information and Public InterestDisclosures

Office of the Children's Commissioner NTLicensing NT

Hearing commenced.


Hearing resumed.


No. Output From4-1

4-2

4-3

4-4

4-5

1-1

1-1

1-1

2-1

2-1

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mr WoodMrs Finocchiaro

4-6 2-1 Mrs Finocchiaro

4-7 6-1 Mr Wood

Subject AnsweredLitigation on regulation of liquor outlet floor space NoUnfilled solicitor positions in SFNT NoNumber of administrative law actions faced by the NoNorthern Territory Government

Custodial services budget NoCosts associated with hospital transfers of Noprisoners

Number of prisoners in VET or other skills NoprogramsReporting of amounts from pubs and clubs from Nopoker machines

Hearing concluded.

2. Hon Natasha Fyles: Minister for Health

Witnesses

Name

Professor Catherine StoddartNick GoodDr Maggie Jamieson

Michael KalimniosSue Korner

Xavier Schoben

Dr Hugh HeggieDr Len Notaras

Position AgencyChief Executive Officer HealthChief Financial Officer HealthActing Deputy Chief Executive, Health Policy Healthand StrategyChief Operating Officer, Top End Health Service HealthChief Operating Officer, Central Australia Health HealthService

Acting Director Public Health HealthChief Health Officer HealthExecutive Director, National Critical Care and HealthResponse Centre

Hearing commenced.


No. Output From4-8

4-9

4-10

4-11

4-12

4-13

4-14

4-15

4-16

4-17

8-1

8-1

8-1

8-1

9-2

9-2

10-1

10-2

10-2

13-1

Mrs Finocchiaro

Ms Selena Uibo

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

Ms Selena UiboMrs Finocchiaro

Subject AnsweredCost breakdown for new health clinics No

Budget breakdown for implementation of the NT NoRenal StrategyBreakdown of people receiving renal dialysis NoCost comparison for renal care by location NoCost to provide flu shots to eligible at-risk NochildrenBudget for therapeutic services for AOD across the NoTerritory12 week residential rehabilitation program No

Budget for disability equipment NoBudget for mental health services for remote NoTerritoriansMedical misdiagnosis complaints No


No. Output From4-18 13-1 Mrs Finocchiaro

Subject AnsweredFees associated with meetings of the Clinical NoSenate

Tabled Papers

No. Output Title4-1 9-2 Summary ofAOD Youth Grants Awarded 2017-18

Hearing concluded.

3. Hon Gerald Mccarthy MLA: Minister for Housing and Community Development

WitnessesName

Jamie ChalkerJim Bamber

Dwayne Mclnnes

Karen ElligettKen TinkhamLee Williams

PositionChief Executive OfficerDeputy Chief Executive Officer (HousingServices, Local Government andCommunity Development)Deputy Chief Executive Officer (RemoteProgram Delivery Office and CommunityServices)Executive Director Corporate Services

Chief Financial OfficerActing Executive Director LocalGovernment and Community Development

AgencyHousing and Community DevelopmentHousing and Community Development

Housing and Community Development

Housing and Community DevelopmentHousing and Community Development

Housing and Community Development

Hearing commenced.


Hearing resumed.


No.

5-1

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5-11

Hearing

Output1-1

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1-1

1-1

1-2

1-2

1-2

1-2

1-2

1-2

1-2

From

Mr HigginsMr Higgins

MrHiggins

MrHiggins



Mr Higgins

MrHiggins

Mr Wood

concluded.

Subject AnsweredBusinesses that have won work through the stimulus package No

Masterplan for using Territory housing properties as Noemergency women's sheltersHousing properties transferred to non-government NoorganisationsExpenditure on repairs and maintenance of NT Housing stock Yesin Moulden

Remote housing project in Amanbidji YesCompanies involved in Room to Breathe program No

Room to Breathe work packages NoAppointment of contractors for Room to Breathe YesprogramUtilisation of government owned dwelling in Wadeye for Novisiting officersBusiness contracts for government employee Nohousing/upgrades in communities

Room to Breathe program No

4. Hon Gerald Mccarthy MLA: Minister for Public Employment

WitnessesName Position AgencyCraig Alien Commissioner Office of the Commissioner for Public EmploymentRobert Czar Chief Financial Officer Office of the Commissioner for Public Employment

Hearing commenced.



5-12 6-1 MrHiggins Percentage of public sen/ants employed on fixed term Nocontracts

5-13 6-1 Mr Higgins Indigenous people employed under Special Measures No5-14 6-1 Mr Higgins Public servants seconded to NGO's No

Tabled Papers

No. Output Title5-1 Opening Opening Statement OCPE

Statement

Hearing concluded.



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Meeting No. 6


8.00 am, Monday 18 June 2018Litchfield Room

Committee Members

Ms Selena Uibo MLA, Member for Arnhem (Chair)Ms Sandra Nelson MLA, Member for Katherine (Deputy Chair)Mr Gary Higgins MLA, Member for DalyMr Paul Kirby MLA, Member for Port DarwinMr Terry Mills MLA, Member for BlainMr Gerry Wood MLA, Member for Nelson

Mrs Kate Warden MLA, Member for Sanderson


Mr Yingiya Mark Guyula MLA, Member for NhulunbuyMr Chansey Paech MLA, Member for NamatjiraMs Robyn Lambley MLA, Member for Araluen

1. Hon Ken Vowles MLA: Minister for Primary Industry and Resources

Witnesses

Name Position AgencyAlister Trier Chief Executive Primary Industry and ResourcesRod Applegate Deputy Chief Executive Resources Primary Industry and Resourceslan Curnow General Manager Fisheries and Product Primary Industry and Resources

IntegrityKaren Simpson Chief Financial Officer Primary Industry and ResourcesPhil Hausler Executive Director Plant Industries Primary Industry and Resources

Hearing commenced.

Suspension of Hearing: The hearing of the Estimates Committee was suspended between 12.00 and 12.30

Hearing resumed.


Subject AnsweredFunding for Aboriginal support for Wagait Land Trust YesPlant industries development programs Yes

Biological control options for mango leaf hopper YesAmateur Fishermen's' Association of the Northern Territory No(AFANT) infrastructure grantStreamlining of mineral exploration licenses Yes

Lawyers acting on behalf of the Government YesExpenditure on legacy mines No

No.

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6-2

6-3

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6-5

6-6

6-7

Output1-1

1-2

2-1

3-1

5-1

5-2

5-3

From

Mr WoodMrHigginsMr WoodMrHiggins

MrHigginsMr HigginsMrHiggins

Tabled Papers

No. Output6-1

6-2

6-3

6-4

6-5

6-6

1-1

1-1

1-2

2-1

5-2

5-3

Department of Primary Industry and Resources Strategic Plan 2018-2022Answer to QON 6-1

Answer to QON 6-2

Answer to QON 6-3

Answer to QON 6-5

Answer to QON 6-6

Hearing concluded.

2. Hon Ken Vowles MLA: Minister for the Arafura Games

Witnesses

Name

Michael TennantAndrew Hopper

Tim Watsford

Hearing commenced.

PositionActing Chief Executive OfficerActing Deputy Chief Executive OfficerGeneral Manager

AgencyTourism and Culture

Tourism and Culture

NT Major Events Company

Tabled Papers

No. Output Title6-7 Opening Statement Opening Statement - Minister for Arafura Games



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Meeting No. 7


8.00 am, Tuesday 19 June 2018Litchfield Room

Committee Members

Ms Selena Uibo MLA, Member for Arnhem (Chair)Ms Sandra Nelson MLA, Member for Katherine (Deputy Chair)Mrs Finocchiaro MLA, Member for Spillett (substituting for Mr Higgins)Mr Gary Higgins MLA, Member for DalyMr Paul Kirby MLA, Member for Port DarwinMr Terry Mills MLA, Member for BlainMr Gerry Wood MLA, Member for NelsonMrs Kate Warden MLA, Member for Sanderson


Mrs Robyn Lambley MLA, Member for AraluenMr Chansey Paech MLA, Member for NamatjiraMr Yingiya Mark Guyula MLA, Member for Nhulunbuy

Member SubstitutionIn accordance with a letter from the Government Whip to the Speaker received 14 June 2018,Mrs Finocchiaro substituted for Mr Higgins for the examination of the Minister for Education.

1. Hon Lauren Moss MLA: Minister for Environment and Natural Resources

Witnesses

Name

Dr Benedict ScambaryAlan Buckingham

Che Walsh

Hearing commenced.

Hearing concluded.

Witnesses

Name

Joanne Townsend

Cynthia Loganathan

Paul Purdon

Christine Long

PositionChief Executive OfficerDirector Corporate Sen/ices/ChiefFinancial OfficerDirector of Policy and Governance

PositionChief Executive OfficerChief Financial Officer, CorporateServices

Executive Director, EnvironmentProtection, Environment Division

Executive Director, Water ResourcesDivision

AgencyAboriginal Areas Protection AuthorityAboriginal Areas Protection Authority

Aboriginal Areas Protection Authority

AgencyEnvironment and Natural Resources

Environment and Natural Resources



Witnesses

Name Position AgencyDrAlaric Fisher Executive Director, Flora and Fauna Environment and Natural Resources

DivisionLuis Da Rocha Acting Executive Director, Rangelands Environment and Natural Resources

DivisionCollene Bremner Executive Director, Bushfires NT Environment and Natural Resources

Hearing commenced.

Deliberative meeting: The hearing was suspended at 8.50 and the Committee moved to the Ormiston Roomto hold a deliberative meeting. Ms Uibo, Ms Nelson, Mr Higgins, Mr Kirby, Mrs Lambley, Mr Wood and MrsWarden attended.

Mr Higgins tabled TP7.2 (Legal Advice) and moved, and Ms Nelson seconded, that the paper be keptconfidential to ajlow the Minister opportunity to advise whether she considered its publication was in the publicinterest.


Hearing resumed: The Committee returned to the Litchfield Room and the hearing resumed at 9.00.

Hearing suspended: Mr Higgins moved, and Ms Nelson seconded, that the name of a poison referred to byMr Higgins be removed from the Hansard record.


Hearing resumed.

Hearing suspended: Mr Higgins moved that, in addition to removing his reference to the name of a poisonfrom the public record, the Committee forbid the publication of that part of the proceeding.

Question put and passed

Hearing resumed.


Hearing resumed.



Sagittaria plant eradication YesCost of Darwin River cabomba investigation Yes

Neem trees on the Victoria River Yes

Mimosa die back on Melaleuca Station YesExceptional water usage for bush fires Yes

Environment grant to the Motor Trades Association No

Tabled Papers

No. Output Title7-1 Opening Letters regarding Pastoral Land Legislation Amendment Bill

Statement7-2 Opening Confidential

Statement7-3 3-2 Sea Level Rise and Saltwater Intrusion Modelling on the Lower Mary River

Hearing concluded.

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7-2

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3-2

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Mr WoodMr WoodMr WoodMr WoodMr HigginsMr Wood

2. Hon Lauren Moss IVILA: Minister for Tourism and Culture

Witnesses

Name

Michael TennantAndrew HopperSusan Kirkman

Phillip Leslie

Mark AshleyJoanna Frankenfeld

Hearing commenced.

PositionActing Chief Executive OfficerActing Deputy Chief Executive OfficerExecutive Director Strategic Services

Executive Director Community Participation Sport andthe ArtsExecutive Director Parks, Wildlife and HeritageChief Financial Officer

AgencyTourism and Culture

Tourism and Culture

Tourism and Culture

Tourism and Culture

Tourism and Culture

Tourism and Culture


From

Mr HigginsNo.

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OutputOpeningStatementOpeningStatementOpeningStatementOpeningStatement

7-1

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7-1

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7-1

SubjectKPIs for turbo-charging the tourism initiative

Mr Higgins Breakdown of predicted increase in tourism numbers

Mrs Lambley Advertising budget promoting consultation for NationalAboriginal Art Gallery

Mrs Lambley Budget for coffee for consultation process

Mr Higgins Breakdown of budget for tourism from China and IndiaMr Wood Information signs on World War II AirstripsMr Wood Portrait of a Senior Territorian Art AwardMr Wood Grant to Top CrocMr Mills Public liability insurance at motor sports eventsMr Wood Visitor numbers for Northern Territory parks

Answered

No

No

Yes

Yes

NoYes

Yes

Yes

NoNo

Hearing concluded.

3. Hon Eva Lawler MLA: Minister for Education

Witnesses

Name

Vicki BaylisMarion GuppyJasmine Aldenhoven

Brett RoachTricia WakeAdam WaldingMaree Garrigan

Tony Considine

PositionChief ExecutiveDeputy Chief Executive, School EducationExecutive Director Corporate Services

Chief Financial OfficerActing General Manager, Early Childhood and Education CareActing Senior Director, Planning and Infrastructure

Acting Executive Director, School Support ServicesGeneral manager, Indigenous Education ReviewImplementation

AgencyEducationEducationEducationEducationEducationEducationEducationEducation

Hearing commenced.


Hearing resumed.


No.

8-1

8-2

8-3

Output1-1

1-1

1-2

From

Mrs Finocchiaro

Mrs Finocchiaro

MrGuyula

Subject AnsweredChildren accessing approved child care centres Yes

Children starting school with developmental delays YesBudget figures for schools in Nhulunbuy region No


No. Output From8-4

8-5

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Mrs

Mrs

Mrs

Mrs

Mrs

Mrs

Finocchiaro

Finocchiaro

Finocchiaro

Finocchiaro

Finocchiaro

Finocchiaro

SubjectTruancy Officers- location and student engagement

Number of students in water safety life skills programBudget and student achievement - water safety lifeskills programTeacher recruitment numbers and origin

Number of bullied studentsStudent suspensions or expulsions for substanceabuse

8-10 1-3

Tabled Papers

No.

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8-5

OutputOpeningStatement

1-1

1-3

1-3

1-3

Mr Wood

Title2018-19 Estimates Minister for Education 0

Answer to QON 8-2

Education NT Strategy 2018-22 Action PlanAnswer to QON 8-1

Answer to QON 8-5

Answered

NoYes

Yes

NoNo

NoNo


Hearing concluded.



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LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF THE NORTHERN TERRITORY

13th Assembly

2018 ESTIMATES COMMITTEE MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 8 Day No. 6 of Estimates Hearings 8.00 am, Wednesday 20 June 2018

Litchfield Room Committee Members Ms Selena Uibo MLA, Member for Arnhem (Chair) Ms Sandra Nelson MLA, Member for Katherine (Deputy Chair) Mrs Lia Finocchiaro MLA, Member for Spillett (substituting for Mr Higgins) Mr Gary Higgins MLA, Member for Daly Mr Paul Kirby MLA, Member for Port Darwin Mr Terry Mills MLA, Member for Blain Mr Gerry Wood MLA, Member for Nelson Mrs Kate Worden MLA, Member for Sanderson

Participating Members Mrs Robyn Lambley MLA, Member for Araluen Mr Yingiya Mark Guyula MLA, Member for Nhulunbuy Mr Chansey Paech MLA, Member Namatjira Member Substitution In accordance with letters from the Government Whip to the Speaker received on 14 and 18 June 2018, Mrs Finocchiaro substituted for Mr Higgins for the examination of the Minister for Territory Families, the Government Owned Corporations and the deliberative meeting of the Committee following the hearings.

1. Hon Dale Wakefield MLA: Minister for Territory Families

Witnesses Name Position Agency Ken Davies Chief Executive Officer Territory Families Jeanette Kerr Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Operations Territory Families Nicole Hurwood Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Organisational Services Territory Families Luke Twyford Executive Director, Strategy, Policy and Performance Territory Families Kim Charles Chief Financial Officer Territory Families Brent Warren General Manager, Families and Regional Services Territory Families Sasha Robinson Executive Director, Youth Justice Territory Families Janet Anderson Chief Coordinator, Reform Management Office Territory Families Danyelle Jarvis Senior Director Programs and Engagement Territory Families

Hearing commenced.


Hearing resumed.

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Questions Taken on Notice No. Output From Subject Answered

9-1 Opening Statement

Mrs Finocchiaro Departmental staff secondment details Yes

9-2 1-2 Mrs Finocchiaro Departmental court applications Yes 9-3 1-2 Mr Wood Recommendations of the “Growing Them Strong,

Together” report Yes

9-4 1-2 Mrs Finocchiaro Departmental staff resignations Yes 9-5 1-2 Mrs Finocchiaro Stress leave taken by case workers Yes 9-6 1-3 Mrs Finocchiaro Complaints from and about foster carers Yes 9-7 1-4 Mrs Finocchiaro Number of youth diversions Yes 9-8 1-4 Mr Wood Electronic monitoring devices Yes 9-9 1-4 Mrs Finocchiaro Police call outs to bail accommodation Yes

9-10 1-4 Mrs Finocchiaro Youth Outreach and Re-engagement Officer Separations

Yes

Tabled Papers No. Output Title

9-1 1-4 Youth Diversion Infrastructure Site Study 9-2 Opening Statement Answer to QON 9-1 9-3 1-2 Answer to QON 9-2 9-4 1-2 Answer to QON 9-3 9-5 1-2 Answer to QON 9-4 9-6 1-3 Answer to QON 9-5 9-7 1-4 Answer to QON 9-6 9-8 1-4 Answer to QON 9-9 9-9 1-4 Answer to QON 9-10


Hearing concluded.

2. Power and Water Corporation

Witnesses Name Position Agency John Langoulant AO Board Chair Power and Water Corporation Michael Thompson Chief Executive Power and Water Corporation Neil Siford Chief Financial Officer Power and Water Corporation Djuna Pollard Executive General Manager, Power Networks Power and Water Corporation John Pudney Executive Manager, Water Services Power and Water Corporation David Coucill General Manager, Regions and Remote Power and Water Corporation Malcolm Conway General Manager, System Control Power and Water Corporation

Hearing commenced.

Questions Taken on Notice No. From Subject Answered 10-1 Mr Kirby Service worker numbers since structural separation No 10-2 Mrs Finocchiaro Installation cost of photovoltaic system at Daly River No 10-3 Mrs Finocchiaro Solar Set-Up Program No

Hearing concluded.

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3. Jacana Energy

Witnesses Name Position Agency Noel Faulkner Chairman Jacana Energy Stuart Pearce Acting Chief Executive Officer Jacana Energy Rod Williams Chief Financial Officer Jacana Energy David Walker Operations Manager Jacana Energy

Hearing commenced.

Hearing suspended: Mrs Finocchiaro, moved and Mr Wood seconded, that the answer to Question on notice 11.2 regarding modelling to costs of solar power be kept in confidence. Question put and passed. Questions Taken on Notice No. From Subject Answered 11-1 Mrs Worden New Jacana power bill No 11-2 Mrs Finocchiaro Impact of renewable energy target No 11-3 Mrs Finocchiaro Recruitment costs No 11-4 Mrs Finocchiaro Wrongful disconnections No

Tabled Papers No. Title 11-1 Jacana Energy – Overview of Performance

Hearing concluded.

4. Territory Generation

Witnesses Name Position Agency Dennis Bree Board Chair Territory Generation Tim Duignan Chief Executive Officer Territory Generation Maria Walters Acting Chief Financial Officer Territory Generation

Hearing commenced.

Hearing concluded.

Adjournment of Hearing: The Estimates Committee adjourned at 19.30.

The Committee met in private in the Ormiston Room

5. Minutes from Previous Meetings Mr Mills moved and Ms Nelson seconded that:

The Minutes of Meetings 2 to 7 be confirmed.


6. Consideration of Draft Report Ms Nelson moved and Mr Wood seconded that:

The Committee adopt the 2018 Estimates Committee Report.


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7. Meeting Closed Meeting closed at 19.45.

Ms Selena Uibo MLA Chair

Documents

Associated Minutes of Proceedings 2018 Estimates Committee … · 2018-06-21 · LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF THE NORTHERN TERRITORY 13th Assembly 2018 Estimates Committee Minutes of Proceedings