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1/20/2014
API Ballot Summary Sheet
Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3 Ballot ID: 3119
Roland GoodmanAssociate:12/6/13Closing Date:10/23/13Start Date:
Ballot:
Coordinator: Roland Goodman
Proposal: Reballot for approval of the second edition of API 16C, Choke and Kill Systems.
VotingCategory
Did Not VoteAbstainNegativeAffirmativeCommentsCompanyVoter
Vote Results
Interest Category
Dokaan, LLCHenry Carroll XNoManufacturerLloyd's Register Energy Americas, Inc.Maynard Chance XYesContractorTube Supply, Inc.Al Coffey XNoManufacturerTransoceanRobert Fogal XYesOperator-UserOn-line ResourcesJohn Fowler XYesConsultantBP America Production CompanyAndy Frazelle XYesOperator-UserChevronFrank Gallander XYesOperator-UserEnergy AlloysAl Gavenas XNoManufacturerEnsign Energy Services, Inc.Sukhi Grewal XNoOperator-UserWoodco USAChris Heitman XNoManufacturerPacific Drilling Services, Inc.Tony Hogg XNoOperator-UserControl Flow, Inc.Tom Lambert XNoManufacturerGE Oil & Gas - VetcoGrayEric Larson XYesManufacturerCopper State Rubber, IncWayne Love XYesManufacturerEXPRO Americas, LLCJohn McCaskill XYesManufacturerDril-QuipDarren Mills XYesManufacturerZ & N Technical Development Ltd.Tibor Nagy XYesManufacturer
David O'Donnell XYesConsultantABS AmericasHarish Patel XNoClass SocietyThe Timken CompanyTroy Powell XYesManufacturerDU-TEX, Inc.Michael Ray XNoManufacturerFMCSteve Schwegman XNoManufacturerENSCOChris Stewart XYesOperator-UserParker Hannifin CorporationKeith Tidrick XYesManufacturerTechnip USADaniel Twiddy XYesContractorNOVEric Wehner XYesManufacturerCameronMelvyn Whitby XYesManufacturerStress Engineering Services, Inc.Kenneth Young XYesContractor
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1/20/2014
API Ballot Summary Sheet
Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3 Ballot ID: 3119
Roland GoodmanAssociate:12/6/13Closing Date:10/23/13Start Date:
Ballot:
Coordinator: Roland Goodman
Proposal: Reballot for approval of the second edition of API 16C, Choke and Kill Systems.
VotingCategory
Balloting Totals: 5 2
Affirmative Negative Abstain Did Not Vote
21 0
Total Responses:
Total Ballots:
Response Rate ((Affirmative + Negative + Abstain) / Total Ballots):
Approval Rate (Affirmative / [Affirmative + Negative] ):
28
26
Consensus:
93%
81%
Must be > 50%
Must be >= 66.66%
YES
2
Ballot Comments and Resolution
Ballot: 3119 Report Date: 12/9/2013 Closing Date: 12/6/2013
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Subclause
Number
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CommentComment Proposed Change Comment Resolution
1 Frazelle,
Andy
N/A N/A Technical Clarification required concerning minimum
instrumentation required for secondary control
panels
Include minimum instrumentation required for
secondary control panel.
No suggested wording provided
2 Frazelle,
Andy
Title Title Editorial By descoping this document this leaves a gap in the
design of the system
Keep the document title as C&K Systems Non-Persuasive
3 Gallander,
Frank
Title Title Technical Remove "equipment". Retain "Systems" for all references. Agree to reference as Equipment for
time being and address as System in
3rd edition.
4 Gallander,
Frank
Whole
Document
Whole
Document
Technical Obsolete information from previous edition. Update to include latest information from 6A,
suite of documents.
Includes references to 6A suite of
documents when addressing systems
5 Baniak,
Edmund
Throughout draft General Throughout the document, you misue the word
"comply" You comply with regulatory requirements or
the legal requirements. You conform to the
requirements of a standard, spec, RP, etc. See 5.2.4
for example.
Change applicable references throughout the
document from "comply with this
specification..." to "conform to the
requierments of this specification" or the like.
Accept Change
6 Grebing,
Kent
Throughout draft 26 occurrences General This is a general comment with an alternate
suggested change, in regard to four other comments
correcting use of "end outlet connections:" There is
very inconsistent usage in the draft of the combined
use of the terms "end connection" and "outlet
connnection." In all but two usages in 16C, "end
connection" alone is sufficient and unambiguous.
The exceptions are 10.7.9 and 10.14.2, where "outlet
connection" is used to differentiate one end
connection from the another (inlet connection) for
drilling chokes and for buffer chambers.
Use "end connection" in place of "end and
outlet connection," "end or outlet connection,"
"end outlet connection," "end connection and
outlet connection," "end connection or outlet
connection," and "outlet connection,"
everywhere in the standard except in 10.7.9.
Duplicate EW comment 7
7 Wehner,
Eric
Throughout draft 26 occurrences General This is a general comment with an alternate
suggested change, in regard to four other comments
correcting use of "end outlet connections:" There is
very inconsistent usage in the draft of the combined
use of the terms "end connection" and "outlet
connnection." In all but two usages in 16C, "end
connection" alone is sufficient and unambiguous.
The exceptions are 10.7.9 and 10.14.2, where "outlet
connection" is used to differentiate one end
connection from the another (inlet connection) for
drilling chokes and for buffer chambers.
Use "end connection" in place of "end and
outlet connection," "end or outlet connection,"
"end outlet connection," "end connection and
outlet connection," "end connection or outlet
connection," and "outlet connection,"
everywhere in the standard except in 10.7.9.
Use "end and outlet connection"
throughout document except for 10.7.9
and 10.14.2.
8 Frazelle,
Andy
1 #e Technical Does this include flow thruough valves? If the OEM
are manufacturing choke or kill flow thru valves we
need to included in this section.
Add flow thru valves. Already Resolved
9 Grebing,
Kent
1 1st paragraph,
last bullet item
Editorial "swivel unions used in choke and kill assemblies":
"Choke and kill assemblies" is undefined and
unclear. The only 16C equipment that uses swivel
unions are articulated choke and kill lines.
Replace last bullet item with: "swivel unions
used in articulated choke and kill lines."
Duplicate EW comment 10
Reballot for approval of the second edition of API 16C, Choke and Kill Systems.
Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3
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Ballot Comments and Resolution
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Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3
10 Wehner,
Eric
1 1st paragraph,
last bullet item
Editorial "swivel unions used in choke and kill assemblies":
"Choke and kill assemblies" is undefined and
unclear. The only 16C equipment that uses swivel
unions are articulated choke and kill lines.
Replace last bullet item with: "swivel unions
used in articulated choke and kill lines."
Use "swivel unions used in choke and
kill equipment" to be consistent with title.
11 Gallander,
Frank
1 a) Technical Strike "articulating choke and kill lines" Do not replace. Does not meet the bend
redius requirements of S53. Acceptable bend
radius has to be addressed in this
specification.
Create WG to address temporary use
versus permanent use. Completed.
12 Gallander,
Frank
1 h) General Add text. There needs to be a highlight for the
importance of API 17HU 1 for 2" hammer
union mismatch.
Non-persuasive. Will reference in
bibliograhy.
13 Gallander,
Frank
1 j) General Remove from text. for the purpose of choke and kill lines, swivel
connections are not designed to meet the fire
retardant requirements as specified within
other SC16 documents. Should they be
permitted for this application?
Non-persuasive. Do not address fire
retardance anywhere in this document.
14 Baniak,
Edmund
2 General Clause 10.8.3.1 refereences API 500 or API 505 but
they are not in the normative reference list
Add API 500
Add API 505
Accept change
15 Baniak,
Edmund
2 General Missing the ASTM equivalent reference to the
Vickers Test Method
Add reference to ASTM E384 Accept change
16 Fowler,
John
2 2 General The reference to the AASME Code Section VIII
Division 1 should not be the 2004 Edition. The same
Appendix in the current 2013 edition is identical.
Remove "2004 Edition" from the reference to
Section VIII Division 1 (not Division 2 )
Accepted Change
17 Fowler,
John
2 2 General Add API Std 6X Add API Standard 6X, Design Calculations for
Pressure-containing Equipment
Accepted Change
18 McCaskill,
John
2 N/A Editorial Remove reference to specific edition of ASME BPVC
2004 Edition For Division 1 only. This is
unnecessary. Division 2 should stay as is.
ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code
(BPVC), Section VIII, Pressure Vessels -
Division 1
Accept change
19 McCaskill,
John
2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "AWS B 5.1, Specification for AWS
certification of welding inspectors, Paragraph
4.1"
Defer to next edition for inclusion in
subclause 2. Put in bibliography for
revision 2.
20 McCaskill,
John
2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4, Sampling procedures
and tables for inspection by variables for
percent nonconforming"
Non-persuasive
21 McCaskill,
John
2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ISO-10893-10:2011, Non-destructive
testing of steel tubes - part 10: Automated full
peripheral ultrasonic testing of seamless and
welded (except submerged arc-welded) steel
tubes for the detection of longitudinal and/or
transverse imperfections"
Defer to edition 3.
22 McCaskill,
John
2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ASTM E213, Standard practice for
ultrasonic testing of metal pipe and tubing"
Defer to edition 3.
23 McCaskill,
John
2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ISO-10893-5:2011, Non-destructive
testing of steel tubes - part 5: Magnetic particle
inspection on seamless and welded
ferromagnetic steel tubes for the detection of
surface imperfections"
Defer to edition 3.
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Ballot Comments and Resolution
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Reballot for approval of the second edition of API 16C, Choke and Kill Systems.
Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3
24 McCaskill,
John
2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ISO 10893-3:2011, Non-destructive
testing of steel tubes - part 3: Automated full
peripheral flux leakage testing of seamless
and welded (except submerged arc-welded)
ferromagnetic steel tubes for the detection of
longitudinal and/or transverse imperfections"
Defer to edition 3.
25 McCaskill,
John
2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ASTM E570, Standard practice for flux
leakage examination of ferromagnetic steel
tubular products"
Defer to edition 3.
26 McCaskill,
John
2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "API 53, ...." Accept change
27 O'Donnell,
David
2 Editorial Why was ASTM E92 Removed? Add it back. Replaced by ISO standards 6507-1
28 Gallander,
Frank
2 Add General need reference to hammer unions include API 17HU 1 for 2" mismatch. Already resolved. Added to bibliography.
29 Gallander,
Frank
2 Add General API 17 TR 12 for subsea applications. Add reference to 17TR12 and possibly the
HPHT document TR8?
Not published yet.
30 Gallander,
Frank
3 General Too many unused terms are referenced. Remove any unused terms from glossary. Add
any new abbreviations and definitions.
Non-persuasive. Be more specific.
31 McCaskill,
John
3 3.1.48+ Editorial Add definition for Pressure-Controlling parts (Used in
7.4.8 and 7.4.9.2)
pressure-controlling part - part intended to
control or regulate the movement of
pressurized fluids.
EXAMPLES Valve-bore sealing mechanisms,
choke trim
Accept change. This is language directly
out of API 6A.
32 Gallander,
Frank
3 SAE General Is SAE a viable reference for well control equipment? Care should be taken when using a reference
to SAE type connectors being used. There are
places where SAE bolting is used on subsea
actuators, and that is clearly not the intended
use for that design.
Non-persuasive. SAE acceptable for
hydraulic hoses.
33 Frazelle,
Andy
3.1.1 1st Technical This definition does not include its use in the
document for pressure testing.
Perhaps this should include a second defintion
with regards to pressure testing. "A standard
for determination that the test performed
provides assurance that this system or
component has integrity"
Add testing
34 McCaskill,
John
3.1.3 2 Technical Reference error
ASQ Z1.4 or ANSI/ASQ Z1.4
Change to: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4" Will Change
35 Grebing,
Kent
3.1.4, 3.1.30 Editorial Articulated choke and kill lines and flexible choke
and kill lines are in the Scope, but are not defined.
This is problematic because API 53 has definitions
and requirements for "choke/kill line" that conflict with
16C. In 16C, flexible, or articulated choke/kill lines
consist of piping and connections only. In Std 53,
"kill line" requirements include valves and pressure
gauges.
(1) Change title of 3.1.4 to list both terms:
"articulated line" and "articulated choke and kill
line." (2) Change title of 3.1.30 to list both
terms: "flexible line" and "flexible choke and kill
line." For an example of a definition with two
terms in the title see 3.1.39.
Duplicate EW comment 36
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36 Wehner,
Eric
3.1.4, 3.1.30 Editorial Articulated choke and kill lines and flexible choke
and kill lines are in the Scope, but are not defined.
This is problematic because API 53 has definitions
and requirements for "choke/kill line" that conflict with
16C. In 16C, flexible, or articulated choke/kill lines
consist of piping and connections only. In Std 53,
"kill line" requirements include valves and pressure
gauges.
(1) Change title of 3.1.4 to list both terms:
"articulated line" and "articulated choke and kill
line." (2) Change title of 3.1.30 to list both
terms: "flexible line" and "flexible choke and kill
line." For an example of a definition with two
terms in the title see 3.1.39.
Addressed by WG on Articulated Lines.
37 Young,
Kenneth
3.1.5 Editorial The definition for a body is "Any portion of API
equipment between end connections…". Does this
mean that the end connection are not part of the
body even though it is an integral forging.
Clarification needed Non-Persuasive
38 Frazelle,
Andy
3.1.16 1st Technical Compliance tends to be related to aligning to laws
where as comformance is aligning with standards or
non-legal requirements.
"the act of being in alignment with the
standards prescribed"
Non-Persuasive
39 Nagy, Tibor 3.1.21 Editorial Change order of words End assembly containing a termination and
end connection used on flexible choke and kill
lines
Non-Persuasive
40 Baniak,
Edmund
3.1.22 Technical Misplaced reference to API in the definition. It iwould
imply there is a difference between an API Intergral
Flange (defined somewhere) and just an Intergral
Fange (which IS defined in Spec 6A).
Remove reference to "API" in the defintion and
if required make conformace to the applicable
API specification an explicit requirement in the
appropriate section of the spec.
Already resolved.
41 Grebing,
Kent
3.1.22 Editorial Definition of end and outlet connection does not
include other end connectors, which are referenced
in 3.1.46, 3.1.55, 7.4.15.1, and 10.3.2
Change to read: "3.1.22 end and outlet
connection: API integral threads, API flanges,
API hubs, API unions, or other end connectors
used to join together equipment that contains
or controls pressure."
Duplicate EW comment 42
42 Wehner,
Eric
3.1.22 Editorial Definition of end and outlet connection does not
include other end connectors, which are referenced
in 3.1.46, 3.1.55, 7.4.15.1, and 10.3.2
Change to read: "3.1.22 end and outlet
connection: API integral threads, API flanges,
API hubs, API unions, or other end connectors
used to join together equipment that contains
or controls pressure."
Accept change.
43 Grebing,
Kent
3.1.27 Editorial No usage of defined term. Definition of "fit" as a verb
is not applicable to the use of "fitted" in 3.1.66, and
there is no other use of "fit" as a verb.
Delete 3.1.27 fit, (verb). Duplicate EW comment 44
44 Wehner,
Eric
3.1.27 Editorial No usage of defined term. Definition of "fit" as a verb
is not applicable to the use of "fitted" in 3.1.66, and
there is no other use of "fit" as a verb.
Delete 3.1.27 fit, (verb). Non-persuasive. Deleted 3.1.66 as
unnecessary. Fit is used in 4.5.3. &
A.3.1 and will remain.
45 Baniak,
Edmund
3.1.28 Technical API reference should be part of the document and
not specific to the definition.
Delete API in the defintion and make
conformance to the API spec a requirement in
the document as applicable.
Accept change
46 Gallander,
Frank
3.1.33 General Form has many variations within the document. Not sure how to address the use of "form" or
does it even need to be defined?
Added "noun" in description of form.
Two places it is used as verb.
47 Frazelle,
Andy
3.1.40 1st Technical The definition does not relate this to pressure testing "The period of time, during pressure testing,
that the product is subjected to pressure and
isolated from the pressure source."
Non-Persuasive
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Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3
48 Grebing,
Kent
3.1.55 Editorial (1) The term used in ten places throughout 16C is
"rigid piping" not "rigid pipe." (2) The use of the terms
"rigid piping" and "rigid choke and kill lines"
interchangeably is very confusing. Since rigid choke
and kill lines are listed in Scope and in the
monogram license information form, requirements
should be unambiguous.The NOTE in 3.1.55 states
"Rigid pipe includes choke and kill lines," but
requirements in clauses 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 are given
for either one or the other..
(1) Change "3.1.55 rigid pipe" to "3.1.56 rigid
piping." (2) Add new definition "3.1.55 rigid
choke and kill lines: Rigid piping, straight or
with bends, with end connectors, for use in
choke and kill systems."
Duplicate EW comment 49
49 Wehner,
Eric
3.1.55 Editorial (1) The term used in ten places throughout 16C is
"rigid piping" not "rigid pipe." (2) The use of the terms
"rigid piping" and "rigid choke and kill lines"
interchangeably is very confusing. Since rigid choke
and kill lines are listed in Scope and in the
monogram license information form, requirements
should be unambiguous.The NOTE in 3.1.55 states
"Rigid pipe includes choke and kill lines," but
requirements in clauses 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 are given
for either one or the other..
(1) Change "3.1.55 rigid pipe" to "3.1.56 rigid
piping." (2) Add new definition "3.1.55 rigid
choke and kill lines: Rigid piping, straight or
with bends, with end connectors, for use in
choke and kill systems."
Accept change with modification. Added
new definition for "rigid choke and kill
lines". Used equipment versus system.
50 O'Donnell,
David
3.1.58 Technical Why remove "manufacturer's"? The needs to be
defined and not left open for interpretation.
Leave "the manufacturer's" non-persuasive
51 O'Donnell,
David
3.1.59 Technical Why remove "manufacturer's"? The needs to be
defined and not left open for interpretation.
Leave "the manufacturer's" non-persuasive
52 Cherbonnie
r, David
3.1.59 Stabilized Editorial witin a specified range is too vague to within the specified design range. Non-persuasive
53 Cherbonnie
r, David
3.1.59 Stabilized Technical The reference is entirely related to "temperature".
Pressure Satilization during testing should be
included
Stabilized (Pressure Testing) The state where
test pressure rate of change does not exceed
0.1% of the test pressure per minute or 10 psi
per minute which ever is lesser.
non-persuasive, not per API guidelines
54 Gallander,
Frank
4 Table 1 General Might be in conflict with other SC16 documents. Meet other SC16 Specification requirements
and do not be in conflict.
Non-persuasive.
55 Baniak,
Edmund
4.1 Table 1 Technical Table 1 inclues Rating A, B and X, all of which are
not part of API Spec 6A. Since you would expect
some equipement for 6A to be used in assembled
16C equipment, you set the stage for having
components from different ratings, and more
importantly, ratings that do not apply in some cases.
Add additional language for when components
of different temperature ratings are used in
16C equipment as to what the final rating of
the equipemnt would be based on.
Non-persuasive.
56 Baniak,
Edmund
4.1.1 Tables2, 3 and
4
General Reference to Tables 2, 3, 4 occur before reference to
Table 1. This violate the API Style guide
requirements.
Either move the call out to Tables 2, 3 and 4 to
after Table 1 or renumber the tables to the
proper order based on the their call out.
Accept change.
57 Baniak,
Edmund
4.1.2 Technical Misplaced requirement in first sentence. You have
provided an implied requirement by stating the the
lowest temperature, but made it optional with the
"may". There is no need for stating this as an
abolute minimum if this is an option.
Change the "may" to a "should"..."Minimum
temperature is the lowest ambient temperature
to which the equipment should be subjected,
while in service.
Accept change with modification.
Replaced "may" with "can".
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58 Grebing,
Kent
4.1.2 1st paragraph,
3rd sentence
Technical Text, "Equipment shall be designed to operate within
the temperature ranges shown in Table 1" does not
clearly indicate that combined ratings may be used.
Change 3rd sentence to read: "Equipment
shall be designed to operate within one or
more of the temperature ranges shown in
Table 1."
Duplicate EW comment 60
59 Larson, Eric 4.1.2 Table 1 Editorial footnote 'a' in Table 1 refers to deleted Table E.1. remove footnote 'a' from Table 1 Change to refer to 4.1.2
60 Wehner,
Eric
4.1.2 1st paragraph,
3rd sentence
Technical Text, "Equipment shall be designed to operate within
the temperature ranges shown in Table 1" does not
clearly indicate that combined ratings may be used.
Change 3rd sentence to read: "Equipment
shall be designed to operate within one or
more of the temperature ranges shown in
Table 1."
Will Change
61 McCaskill,
John
4.1.2 Table 1 Editorial The order of the tables are not in sequence. In the
text, Table 2,3, and 4 is mentioned before Table 1.
Change the order of the tables to have 2, 3,
and 4 as 1, 2 and 3 respectively with the
current table 1 moving to table 4. (Text is fine)
Already resolved
62 Nagy, Tibor 4.1.2 Table 1, note
"a"
Editorial This note is not needed, bacause the referenced
table (E 1) was deleted.
Delete the note "a". Accept change. Refer to previous
comment
63 McCaskill,
John
4.1.3 Technical Add: "and moderately corrosive". This was present
in the first edition and should not be removed.
Choke and kill systems are generally mobile
and may be expected to be used in areas
where sour service and moderately corrosive
conditions may be encountered.
non-persuasive
64 Baniak,
Edmund
4.1.3 1st Sentence General There is no requirement in the first sentence. This
reads like a NOTE
Make the 1st Sentence a NOTE after the 2nd
sentence.
Already resolved.
65 Frazelle,
Andy
4.1.3 1st Editorial The first sentence seems wordy. Consider replacing "may be expected to be
used" with "may be used". Seems there is no
loss of intent.
Change to "can be used"
66 Grebing,
Kent
4.1.3 1st paragraph Technical Requirement for metallic materials to "meet the
requirements of NACE MR0175/ISO 15156" is
insufficient without specifying a partial pressure of
H2S. Different materials commonly used in 16C
equipment have specified limits for H2S ranging from
0.5 psia to no limit. For a fluid pressure of 15000
psia, 0.5 psia equates to 33 ppm H2S. Given the
statement that this equipment is "generally mobile,"
there should be some minimum standard for H2S
level.
Change last sentence to read: "Metallic
materials that are exposed to the well fluid
shall meet the requirements of NACE
MR0175/ISO 15156, including a partial
pressure rating for H2S of 1.5 psia (10,34 Kpa)
or higher.
Duplicate EW comment 67
67 Wehner,
Eric
4.1.3 1st paragraph Technical Requirement for metallic materials to "meet the
requirements of NACE MR0175/ISO 15156" is
insufficient without specifying a partial pressure of
H2S. Different materials commonly used in 16C
equipment have specified limits for H2S ranging from
0.5 psia to no limit. For a fluid pressure of 15000
psia, 0.5 psia equates to 33 ppm H2S. Given the
statement that this equipment is "generally mobile,"
there should be some minimum standard for H2S
level.
Change last sentence to read: "Metallic
materials that are exposed to the well fluid
shall meet the requirements of NACE
MR0175/ISO 15156, including a partial
pressure rating for H2S of 1.5 psia (10,34 Kpa)
or higher.
Accept change
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68 Baniak,
Edmund
4.1.4 Technical This section is techncially redundant to 4.1.4.2. The
two are also inconsistent. First, 4.1.4.1 deals with
flange and hub end outlet connections...while 4.1.4.2
deals with end AND outlet connections.
And there is "no good English" in 4.1.4.1...Design
of... shall be design in accordance..."?? Also, since
design requirements are integral to Spec 16A and
6A, as are the manufacturing requirements, to have
two separate requirements for design and
manufacture (with respect to 6A/16A) is redundant.
Combine 4.1.4.1 and 4.1.4.2 into:
Flange and hub end connections shall be
manufactured in conformance to the
requirements of API 6A or API 16A, as
applicable.
4.1.4 was already deleted and moved to
4.3.
69 Frazelle,
Andy
4.1.4 Table 1, note Editorial The note is not clear how the ratings can be
combined.
Provide an example or two of how this can be
done for clarity.
Added Example in footnote
70 Grebing,
Kent
4.1.4 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined
in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not
defined. (2) Design of API flanged, studded, and
hubbed connections is provided in 6A & 16A, and
excluded from manufacturers' design responsibility.
(3) OEC's should be covered in 4.1.4.
Change title of 4.1.4.1 to: "Flange and Hub
End and Outlet Connections."
Duplicate EW comment 71
71 Wehner,
Eric
4.1.4 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined
in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not
defined. (2) Design of API flanged, studded, and
hubbed connections is provided in 6A & 16A, and
excluded from manufacturers' design responsibility.
(3) OEC's should be covered in 4.1.4.
Change title of 4.1.4.1 to: "Flange and Hub
End and Outlet Connections."
Accepted Change.
72 Young,
Kenneth
4.1.4 Editorial Section 4.1.4 Flange and Hub End Outlet
Connections is not part of Service Conditions
Move to Section 4.2 Moved 4.1.4 into section 4.3
73 Grebing,
Kent
4.1.4.1 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined
din 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not
defined. (2) Grammatical error: "Design of... are not
within the scope of this specification." The subject of
both verbal phrases is "design," (singular). (3)
Design of API flanged, studded, and hubbed
connections is provided in 6A & 16A, and excluded
from manufacturers' design responsibility. (4) OEC's
should be covered in 4.1.4.
Replace 4.1.4.1 with "Design of API flanged,
studded, and clamp-hub end and outlet
connections shall be as specified in API 6A
and/or API 16A, and is outside the scope of
this specification and the manufacturer's
design responsibility. Design of other end
connectors (OECs) used on 16C equipment
shall meet all the applicable design
requirements of API 6A."
Duplicate EW comment 74
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74 Wehner,
Eric
4.1.4.1 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined
in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not
defined. (2) Grammatical error: "Design of... are not
within the scope of this specification." The subject of
both verbal phrases is "design," (singular). (3)
Design of API flanged, studded, and hubbed
connections is provided in 6A & 16A, and excluded
from manufacturers' design responsibility. (4) OEC's
should be covered in 4.1.4.
Replace 4.1.4.1 with "Design of API flanged,
studded, and clamp-hub end and outlet
connections shall be as specified in API 6A
and/or API 16A, and is outside the scope of
this specification and the manufacturer's
design responsibility. Design of other end
connectors (OECs) used on 16C equipment
shall meet all the applicable design
requirements of API 6A."
Accepted with modifications.
75 Grebing,
Kent
4.1.4.2 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: (1) "Manufacturers shall make…" (2)
"applicable sections" is not clear; "section" is not
defined, and not all requirements in a "section" may
apply.
Replace 4.1.4.2 with: "End and outlet
connections shall be manufactured in
accordance with the applicable requirements
of API 6A and/or API 16A."
Duplicate EW comment 76
76 Wehner,
Eric
4.1.4.2 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: (1) "Manufacturers shall make…" (2)
"applicable sections" is not clear; "section" is not
defined, and not all requirements in a "section" may
apply.
Replace 4.1.4.2 with: "End and outlet
connections shall be manufactured in
accordance with the applicable requirements
of API 6A and/or API 16A."
Accepted Change with modification.
77 McCaskill,
John
4.2 Technical Remove class DD as acceptable trim, as this does
not prevent mild CO2 metal loss corrosion. If valve
stem-to-body connections are the only issue, then
there may be a possibility of some exception for
those specific parts. This reverts back to the same
requirements as the first edition. This standard
should not be weakened by allowing DD materials for
all components of the system, only because valve
stem-to-gate connections have been an issue for EE
trim.
…material Class EE, FF, or HH, with an… non-persuasive
78 McCaskill,
John
4.2 e) Technical Reinstate flow through valves in the requirements, as
they are an integral part of any choke and kill system.
This was required in the first edition, and still must be
required.
e) flow through valves Put "valves" back in as e).
79 O'Donnell,
David
4.2 Technical The document removed "flow through valves" Leave the "flow through valves" in place. Put "valves" back in as e).
80 O'Donnell,
David
4.2 Technical The wording of the first paragraph states the
products listed "shall have the requirements . . . and
shall have a minimum product specifiction level of
PSL 3, material class DD, EE, FF or HH . . . ". They
are not required and confuse the statement.
"Minimum requirement cover all above the DD
requirement.
State on the class "DD" as the minimum
requirement.
non-persuasive, not heirarchal
81 O'Donnell,
David
4.2 e) Technical Hubs are not part of API 6A and do not have the PSL
3 and class designations. They are part of 16A so
they do not follow the requirements of the above.
State they must meet Api 16A.
Agreed Change e) to below:hubbed end
and outlet connections (16A)
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82 Fogal,
Robert
4.2 e. Technical "Flow through valves" was deleted from the list of
components addressed by 16C. There was much
controversy over the required trim class being DD or
EE. In my opinion the improved corrosion resistance
of EE materials are beneficial, however this comment
at the elimination of gate valves, any material class,
from this specification.
Reinstate paragraph e. Flow-through valves Already Resolved
83 Gallander,
Frank
4.2 opening
paragraph
General Use of NACE reference for 1.5 psia partial pressure
for H2S.
I thinkthe partial pressure that is referenced in
NACE is 0.05 psia partial pressure and not 1.5
as specified in this document.
Non-persuasive.
84 Grebing,
Kent
4.2 former bullet
(e)
Editorial Error in draft deletes valves from list. Agreed change
was to change "flow-through valves" with 6A defined
term "full-bore valves."
Replace deleted 4.2 e) with "4.2 e) full-bore
valves."
Duplicate EW comment 90
85 Grebing,
Kent
4.2 bullets (f), (g),
(h) & (j)
(formerly g, h, i
& j)
Editorial The requirements of 4.2 are not applicable to the last
three items listed. Per API 6A, hydraulic actuators
do not have either a PSL or material class. Ring
gaskets and studs and nuts do not have PSL,
material class, or temperature rating.
Add a note to text paragraph of 4.2: "NOTE -
PSL and material class are not applicable to
choke or valve actuators; PSL, material class
and temperature rating are not applicable to
ring gaskets or studs and nuts."
Duplicate EW comment 91
86 Grebing,
Kent
4.2 bullet list (a)
through (j)
General Users often provide purchase specificatiions that
incorrectly require valves, flanges, and other 6A
equipment listed in 4.2 to be "certified to" 16C and
even monogrammed to 16C. Some 16C licensed
manufacturers have made the same mistake -
thinking that a gate valve used in a 16C manifold can
be certified as conforming to 16C if it is PU-EE-
PSL3. It would be very helpful to have clarity in 16C
on this point.
Add a note to the end of the list in 4.2: "NOTE -
Individual units of equipment listed above are
not API 16C equipment, even when used in
API 16C assemblies."
Duplicate EW comment 92
87 Larson, Eric 4.2 1 Editorial Sentence refers to Table 4 for temperature ratings,
Table 4 is now Flex line sizes and Rated Working
Pressures.
Refer to Table 1 instead of Table 4 Accept Change
88 Mills,
Darren
4.2 Paragraph 1 Technical Para 4.1.3 states materials to meet MR0175 when
sour conditions are encountered. MR0175 threshold
for H2S service is 0.5 psia. In Para 4.2 it states DD,
EE, FF or HH trim is required only when H2S is over
1.5 psia for the listed equipment.
DD, EE, FF or HH trim is required when H2S is
over 0.5 psia
Already Resolved
89 Nguyen,
Hung Phu
4.2 N/A General 1/ Remove material class DD
2/ Add "flow through valves" back in under Product
Specification.
1/ ...material class EE, FF or HH, with an H2S
partial pressure rating of 1.5 psia....
2/ flow through valves;
1. Non-persuasive 2. Accept change
90 Wehner,
Eric
4.2 former bullet
(e)
Editorial Error in draft deletes valves from list. Agreed change
was to change "flow-through valves" with 6A defined
term "full-bore valves."
Replace deleted 4.2 e) with "4.2 e) full-bore
valves."
Non-persuasive
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91 Wehner,
Eric
4.2 bullets (f), (g),
(h) & (j)
(formerly g, h, i
& j)
Editorial The requirements of 4.2 are not applicable to the last
three items listed. Per API 6A, hydraulic actuators
do not have either a PSL or material class. Ring
gaskets and studs and nuts do not have PSL,
material class, or temperature rating.
Add a note to text paragraph of 4.2: "NOTE -
PSL and material class are not applicable to
choke or valve actuators; PSL, material class
and temperature rating are not applicable to
ring gaskets or studs and nuts."
Accept change with modification.
Deleted ring gaskets, studs and nuts.
92 Wehner,
Eric
4.2 bullet list (a)
through (j)
General Users often provide purchase specificatiions that
incorrectly require valves, flanges, and other 6A
equipment listed in 4.2 to be "certified to" 16C and
even monogrammed to 16C. Some 16C licensed
manufacturers have made the same mistake -
thinking that a gate valve used in a 16C manifold can
be certified as conforming to 16C if it is PU-EE-
PSL3. It would be very helpful to have clarity in 16C
on this point.
Add a note to the end of the list in 4.2: "NOTE -
Individual units of equipment listed above are
not API 16C equipment, even when used in
API 16C assemblies."
Non-persuasive
93 Whitby,
Melvyn
4.2 4.2 Technical clarification and removal of ambiguity of current
verbiage of 4.2
....shall meet the requirements of API 6A and
shall have a minimum product specification
level of PSL3, material class DD with an H2S
rating of 1.5 psia.
Already Resolved
94 Whitby,
Melvyn
4.2 4.2 General Valves are not listed in the covered product listing. Change the deleted line "flow through valves"
to Valves.
Already Resolved
95 Whitby,
Melvyn
4.2 4.2 General Valves are not listed in the covered product listing. Change the deleted line "flow through valves"
to Valves.
refer to #94
96 Whitby,
Melvyn
4.2 4.2 Technical clarification and removal of ambiguity of current
verbiage of 4.2
....shall meet the requirements of API 6A and
shall have a minimum product specification
level of PSL3, material class DD with an H2S
rating of 1.5 psia.
Redundant
97 Frazelle,
Andy
4.2 #e Technical Why has this been crossed out since API 6A does
included requirements in tables B.67 thru B.71 for
this flow thru valves?
Need to add this back in since all the other
equipment is required to meet API 6A
Refer to #94
98 Nagy, Tibor 4.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial Reference to Table 4 regarding temperature rating is
is not correct
Change reference to Table 1 Refer to #87
99 Larson, Eric 4.3 1 General No reference is made to working pressures at 20ksi
or above meeting API 17TR8 guidelines.
suggestion to give guidance on high pressure
equipment.
Defer to next edition
100 Grebing,
Kent
4.3, 4.4,…4.9
inclusive
Editorial Clauses 4.3 through 4.9 are scrambled in order, are
not consistent with other product specs, and are
unnecessarily difficult to navigate. The clauses for
design-related activities: design methods, allowable
stresses, performance requirements, design
validation and design documentation, should be
together (4.3, 4.4, 4.7, & 4.10). The clauses for
product specifications: size, pressure, temperature,
etc., should be together (4.1, 4.2, 4.6, 4.8, & 4.9).
Change clause 4.3 to 4.6, clause 4.4 to 4.7,
clause 4.5 to 4.8, clause 4.6 to 4.3, clause 4.7
to 4.9, clause 4.8 to 4.4, and clause 4.9 to 4.5.
Duplicate EW comment 101
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101 Wehner,
Eric
4.3, 4.4,…4.9
inclusive
Editorial Clauses 4.3 through 4.9 are scrambled in order, are
not consistent with other product specs, and are
unnecessarily difficult to navigate. The clauses for
design-related activities: design methods, allowable
stresses, performance requirements, design
validation and design documentation, should be
together (4.3, 4.4, 4.7, & 4.10). The clauses for
product specifications: size, pressure, temperature,
etc., should be together (4.1, 4.2, 4.6, 4.8, & 4.9).
Change clause 4.3 to 4.6, clause 4.4 to 4.7,
clause 4.5 to 4.8, clause 4.6 to 4.3, clause 4.7
to 4.9, clause 4.8 to 4.4, and clause 4.9 to 4.5.
Refer to Jon Fowlers's Comments in sort
key 102.
102 Fowler,
John
4.3.2 4.3.2 Technical Standard 6X is soon to be released. This will replace
sections 4.3.2 and 4.3.3.
Replace 4.3.2.with:
4.3.2 API Std 6X
The design methodology of API Standard 6X
Accepted Change. Deleted 4.3.3
103 Larson, Eric 4.3.2 1 Technical Draft API 6X permits the use of von mises equivalent
stress method as a substitute for stress intensity.
Add verbage like 6X to permit stress methods. Accepted Change. Added von Mises
equivalent stress
104 Grebing,
Kent
4.3.3 1st sentence Editorial "Pressure-containing equipment" is not defined.
Design critera of 4.3 are applicable to pressure-
containing parts.
Replace first sentence with: "The ASME
method shall be used for design and
calculations for pressure-containing parts
using non-standard materials, with the
exception that..."
Duplicate EW comment 105
105 Wehner,
Eric
4.3.3 1st sentence Editorial "Pressure-containing equipment" is not defined.
Design critera of 4.3 are applicable to pressure-
containing parts.
Replace first sentence with: "The ASME
method shall be used for design and
calculations for pressure-containing parts
using non-standard materials, with the
exception that..."
Accept change
106 Grebing,
Kent
4.3.4 1st sentence Editorial "Pressure-containing equipment" is not defined.
Design critera of 4.3 are applicable to pressure-
containing parts..
Repace first sentence with: "The Distortion
Energy Method, also known as the Von Mises
Law, may be used for design calculations for
pressure-containing parts."
Duplicate EW comment 107
107 Wehner,
Eric
4.3.4 1st sentence Editorial "Pressure-containing equipment" is not defined.
Design critera of 4.3 are applicable to pressure-
containing parts..
Repace first sentence with: "The Distortion
Energy Method, also known as the Von Mises
Law, may be used for design calculations for
pressure-containing parts."
Refer to Jon Fowlers's Comments in sort
key 102.
108 Frazelle,
Andy
4.4.2 1st Editorial This sentence lacks clarity Consider replacing with "the ability of a
component or system to withstand a pressure
load at rated temperature without leakage."
Non-persuasive
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109 Grebing,
Kent
4.4.4 1st paragraph Editorial 4.4.4 does not belong in the list. "No visible leakage"
is a pressure test acceptance criterion, not a design
requirement. A performance requirement of zero
leakage cannot be imposed for design purposes
without defining cycle life, service life, fluid
properties, maintenance, etc. All dynamic seals
experience wear, and all elastomeric seals have a
finite service life.
Delete 4.4.4 Leakage. Duplicate EW comment 110
110 Wehner,
Eric
4.4.4 1st paragraph Editorial 4.4.4 does not belong in the list. "No visible leakage"
is a pressure test acceptance criterion, not a design
requirement. A performance requirement of zero
leakage cannot be imposed for design purposes
without defining cycle life, service life, fluid
properties, maintenance, etc. All dynamic seals
experience wear, and all elastomeric seals have a
finite service life.
Delete 4.4.4 Leakage. Non-persuasive
111 Young,
Kenneth
4.4.5 Editorial Products shall be capable of sustaining rated
loads… What rated loads; pressure is the only rated
load specified.
Clarification needed Non-persuasive
112 Grebing,
Kent
4.5.1 1st paragraph Editorial Non-standard language is unclear: (1) "are imposed
on," is informative wording, not clearly normative; (2)
"line samples" is undefined and unfamiliar. (3) The
second sentence is redundant to A.5.1:"Design
validation testing, where applicable, shall be
performed on prototypes or production models of
equipment listed in 1.2.1..."
Replace existing 4.5.1 with: "Design validation
shall be performed in accordance with Annex
A for products of new design and for design
changes to previously-validated products."
(Delete 2nd sentence.)
Duplicate EW comment 114
113 Grebing,
Kent
4.5.1 1st paragraph Technical Neither 4.5 nor A.2.1 identify which products listed in
1. Scope require design validation and which do not.
Add a note to text paragraph of 4.5.1: "NOTE -
Design validation testing is not required for
choke and kill manifold assemblies, buffer
chambers, or rigid choke and kill lines.
Validation of articulated choke and kill lines
validates the swivel unions used in the tested
assembly."
Duplicate EW comment 115
114 Wehner,
Eric
4.5.1 1st paragraph Editorial Non-standard language is unclear: (1) "are imposed
on," is informative wording, not clearly normative; (2)
"line samples" is undefined and unfamiliar. (3) The
second sentence is redundant to A.5.1:"Design
validation testing, where applicable, shall be
performed on prototypes or production models of
equipment listed in 1.2.1..."
Replace existing 4.5.1 with: "Design validation
shall be performed in accordance with Annex
A for products of new design and for design
changes to previously-validated products."
(Delete 2nd sentence.)
Accept change with modification
115 Wehner,
Eric
4.5.1 1st paragraph Technical Neither 4.5 nor A.2.1 identify which products listed in
1. Scope require design validation and which do not.
Add a note to text paragraph of 4.5.1: "NOTE -
Design validation testing is not required for
choke and kill manifold assemblies, buffer
chambers, or rigid choke and kill lines.
Validation of articulated choke and kill lines
validates the swivel unions used in the tested
assembly."
Task Group will break into two
comments. Agree to accept comment.
Pending discussion of articulated lines
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116 Baniak,
Edmund
4.5.3 Editorial Second sentence is a Defintion. Remove from this section and add defintion for
"Substantive Change" in section 3.
Accept change with modification.
117 McCaskill,
John
4.6 1 Editorial Consistancy of style of writing. When listing tables,
figures etc there is no need to say: "table1, table 2,
table 3, ...." (see section 4.1.1)
Tables 1, 2, and 3 Non-persuasive
118 McCaskill,
John
4.6 Table 3 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.
Singular or plural. 4.6 states "Bore Size and Rates
Working Pressure" (with the s scored out), However,
Table 2 states "Equipment Bore Sizes and Rated
Working Pressures".
Make them the same (either in singular or
plural)
Accept Change
119 Grebing,
Kent
4.7 first bullet item Editorial "Bolt-up" is not standard terminology. Replace "initial bolt-up" with "initial make-up." Duplicate EW comment 120
120 Wehner,
Eric
4.7 first bullet item Editorial "Bolt-up" is not standard terminology. Replace "initial bolt-up" with "initial make-up." Accept chanege with modification
121 Grebing,
Kent
4.8 1st paragraph Editorial As worded, 4.8 is informational, not normative. No
requirement is given in stating that clamps are
included in API 16A.
Replace 4.8 with: "Clamps for API 16BX hubs
shall comply with requirements of API 16A."
Duplicate EW comment 122
122 Wehner,
Eric
4.8 1st paragraph Editorial As worded, 4.8 is informational, not normative. No
requirement is given in stating that clamps are
included in API 16A.
Replace 4.8 with: "Clamps for API 16BX hubs
shall comply with requirements of API 16A."
Accept change with modification
123 McCaskill,
John
4.9 Title Editorial Consistancy of writing style.
Tab spacing between section number and text
Ensure that the spacing is correct and
consistant
Non-persuasive
124 McCaskill,
John
4.10 Title Editorial Consistancy of writing style.
Tab spacing between section number and text
Ensure that the spacing is correct and
consistant
Non-persuasive
125 Baniak,
Edmund
5.2.4 Technical It is not clear what you mean by special corrosion
resistant material. This could be misused by a
manufacturer to get out of required material testing
for some special alloy materials.
Need to add language requiring more than just
what whe manufacturer defines for materials
that may be used in pressure containing
instances but be "classified" as special
corrosion resistent.
Non-persuasive
126 McCaskill,
John
5.3 Technical Drilling choke materials as defined in this spec are
nowhere required to comply with any specific
material class or with NACE
5.3 Drilling Chokes
5.3.1 Materials for bodies, bonnets, plugs,
caps, and end connections shall comply with
Table 5 and Table 6.
5.3.2 Drilling choke materials shall comply with
API 6A material Class EE-1.5 or higher
Accept Change
127 McCaskill,
John
5.3 1 Editorial Consistancy of style of writing. When listing tables,
figures etc there is no need to say: "table1, table 2,
table 3, ...." (see section 4.1.1)
Tables 5 and 6. Non-persuasive
128 Frazelle,
Andy
5.4 1st Technical API has bolting guidance, document should
reference that and not provide OEM to define
requirement
Reference API 20E for this requirement Eric W will address. Proposed leaving
as-is. Address in future edition.
129 Young,
Kenneth
5.4 Technical API 20E was written specifically for bolting and
should be specified.
Closure bolting shall comply with API 20E. refer to #128
130 McCaskill,
John
5.6.1 1 Editorial Consistancy of style of writing. When listing tables,
figures etc there is no need to say: "table1, table 2,
table 3, ...." (see section 4.1.1)
Tables 5, 6, 7, and 8. Non-persuasive
131 McCaskill,
John
5.6.2 Table 9 Editorial Missing bracket (close bracket) on "L" 15 (20) Accept change
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132 McCaskill,
John
5.6.3.1 1 Editorial Vague comment
"...shall have a written document..." is very unclear.
Are they the provider of the document, are they
following the provided else where?
E.g. API 6A state "...manufacturer shall document...",
"manufacturer shall specify..." etc.
...manufacturer shall document....
Or
...manufacturer shall follow...
Non-persuasive
133 McCaskill,
John
5.6.3.2 1 Editorial Vague comment
"...shall have a written document..." is very unclear.
Are they the provider of the document, are they
following the provided else where?
E.g. API 6A state "...manufacturer shall document...",
"manufacturer shall specify..." etc.
...manufacturer shall document....
Or
...manufacturer shall follow...
Non-persuasive
134 McCaskill,
John
5.6.3.3 1 Editorial Vague comment
"...shall have a written document..." is very unclear.
Are they the provider of the document, are they
following the provided else where?
E.g. API 6A state "...manufacturer shall document...",
"manufacturer shall specify..." etc.
...manufacturer shall document....
Or
...manufacturer shall follow...
Non-persuasive
135 Frazelle,
Andy
5.6.5.2 2nd para Technical This lacks calrity and seems to say, if one of 3 tensile
tests is satisfactory then the material is good? If this
is incorrect then clarify; but 1 out of 3 seems to be a
low standard
If the first does not pass then require the two
additional to be satisfoctory for the material to
be qualified
Non-persuasive
136 McCaskill,
John
5.6.5.4 2 Editorial Consistancy of writing style
"cross section" or "cross-section"
Change to "cross-section" Accept Change
137 Grebing,
Kent
5.6.5.6 2nd paragraph Editorial Typo error: Phrase repeated in last sentence:
"specimens (recovered from the same location within
the same QTC with no additional"
Correct last sentence to read: "If a test fails,
then one retest of three additional specimens
(recovered from the same location within the
same QTC with no additional heat treatment)
may be made, each of which shall exhibit an
impact value equal to or exceeding the
required minimum average."
Duplicate EW comment 138
138 Wehner,
Eric
5.6.5.6 2nd paragraph Editorial Typo error: Phrase repeated in last sentence:
"specimens (recovered from the same location within
the same QTC with no additional"
Correct last sentence to read: "If a test fails,
then one retest of three additional specimens
(recovered from the same location within the
same QTC with no additional heat treatment)
may be made, each of which shall exhibit an
impact value equal to or exceeding the
required minimum average."
Accept change
139 Baniak,
Edmund
5.7 Technical The way this is currently worded, you only require
hardness and chemistry for pressure containing
piping. Really?
Add in all other requirements needed for
pressure containg components.
Accept change. Refer to 5.6 in entirety.
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140 Grebing,
Kent
5.8.1 Editorial Section 5.8 is confusing. Because QTCs from
prolongations and sacrificial parts are covered in
5.8.1 ("General"), it is not clear that separate QTCs
meeting the ER method of 5.8.2 may be used for
batch heat-treated parts.
Add new first paragraph to 5.8.1.1: "For parts
heat treated in batch furnaces only, the
qualification test coupon (QTC) may be taken
from a separate test coupon of the same heat
of material. For parts heat treated in
continuous furnaces or batch furnaces, the
qualification test coupon (QTC) may be taken
from a prolongation or trepanned core taken
from a production part or from a sacrificial
production part."
Duplicate EW comment 142
141 Grebing,
Kent
5.8.1 Technical The first sentence is incorrect and misleading: "The
properties exhibited by the qualification test coupon
(QTC) represent the properties of the material
comprising the equipment it qualifies." (1) QTCs
relate to parts, not equipment. (2) A QTC made to
the ER method of 5.8.2 does not necessarily
represent the properties of the material comprising
the part it qualifies. The QTC represents the
properties of parts only where the cross-section has
the same ER. It is not intended to represent
minimum properties throughout a part of varying size
and shape.
Replace 5.8.1.1 with (from 6A): "The
properties exhibited by the QTC shall
represent the properties of the thermal
response of the material comprising the
production parts it qualifies. Depending upon
the hardenability of a given material, the QTC
results might not always correspond to the
properties of the actual components at all
locations throughout their cross-section."
Duplicate EW comment 143
142 Wehner,
Eric
5.8.1 Editorial Section 5.8 is confusing. Because QTCs from
prolongations and sacrificial parts are covered in
5.8.1 ("General"), it is not clear that separate QTCs
meeting the ER method of 5.8.2 may be used for
batch heat-treated parts.
Add new first paragraph to 5.8.1.1: "For parts
heat treated in batch furnaces only, the
qualification test coupon (QTC) may be taken
from a separate test coupon of the same heat
of material. For parts heat treated in
continuous furnaces or batch furnaces, the
qualification test coupon (QTC) may be taken
from a prolongation or trepanned core taken
from a production part or from a sacrificial
production part."
Accept change
143 Wehner,
Eric
5.8.1 Technical The first sentence is incorrect and misleading: "The
properties exhibited by the qualification test coupon
(QTC) represent the properties of the material
comprising the equipment it qualifies." (1) QTCs
relate to parts, not equipment. (2) A QTC made to
the ER method of 5.8.2 does not necessarily
represent the properties of the material comprising
the part it qualifies. The QTC represents the
properties of parts only where the cross-section has
the same ER. It is not intended to represent
minimum properties throughout a part of varying size
and shape.
Replace 5.8.1.1 with (from 6A): "The
properties exhibited by the QTC shall
represent the properties of the thermal
response of the material comprising the
production parts it qualifies. Depending upon
the hardenability of a given material, the QTC
results might not always correspond to the
properties of the actual components at all
locations throughout their cross-section."
Accept change
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144 Grebing,
Kent
5.8.1.2 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: "the QTC will only qualify parts that
are identical in size and shape. to the part from
which it was removed. When the QTC is a sacrificial
part, it qualifies only parts having identical size and
shape." The QTC will not take any action, but the
manufacturer may use the QTC to take action.
Use passive voice: "When the QTC is a
trepanned outlet or a prolongation removed
from a part,the QTC may be used to qualify
only parts that are identical in size and shape
to the part from which it was removed. When
the QTC is a sacrificial part, it may be used to
qualify only parts having identical size and
shape."
Duplicate EW comment 145
145 Wehner,
Eric
5.8.1.2 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: "the QTC will only qualify parts that
are identical in size and shape. to the part from
which it was removed. When the QTC is a sacrificial
part, it qualifies only parts having identical size and
shape." The QTC will not take any action, but the
manufacturer may use the QTC to take action.
Use passive voice: "When the QTC is a
trepanned outlet or a prolongation removed
from a part,the QTC may be used to qualify
only parts that are identical in size and shape
to the part from which it was removed. When
the QTC is a sacrificial part, it may be used to
qualify only parts having identical size and
shape."
Already resolved
146 Grebing,
Kent
5.8.1.2, 5.8.1.3 Technical Restriction on use of QTCs from prolongation,
trepanning, or sacrificial parts is to qualify identical
parts only. This is unreasonable for parts and QTC
heat treated in batch furnaces. This restriction is
applied in 6A only for parts processed in continuous
furnaces.
Replace 5.8.1.2 & 5.8.1.3 with:
"5.8.1.2 For batch heat-treatment only, if the
QTC is a trepanned core or prolongation
removed from a production part, the QTC may
qualify only production parts having the same
or smaller ER. The QTC shall qualify only
material and parts produced from the same
heat."
"5.8.1.3 For material heat-treated in a
continuous furnace, the QTC shall consist of a
sacrificial production part or a
prolongation removed from a production part.
The sacrificial production part or prolongation
QTC shall qualify only production parts having
an identical size and shape. The QTC shall
qualify only material and parts produced from
the same heat and heat-treat lot."
Duplicate EW comment 147
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147 Wehner,
Eric
5.8.1.2, 5.8.1.3 Technical Restriction on use of QTCs from prolongation,
trepanning, or sacrificial parts is to qualify identical
parts only. This is unreasonable for parts and QTC
heat treated in batch furnaces. This restriction is
applied in 6A only for parts processed in continuous
furnaces.
Replace 5.8.1.2 & 5.8.1.3 with:
"5.8.1.2 For batch heat-treatment only, if the
QTC is a trepanned core or prolongation
removed from a production part, the QTC may
qualify only production parts having the same
or smaller ER. The QTC shall qualify only
material and parts produced from the same
heat."
"5.8.1.3 For material heat-treated in a
continuous furnace, the QTC shall consist of a
sacrificial production part or a
prolongation removed from a production part.
The sacrificial production part or prolongation
QTC shall qualify only production parts having
an identical size and shape. The QTC shall
qualify only material and parts produced from
the same heat and heat-treat lot."
Accept change
148 Grebing,
Kent
5.8.1.3 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: "A QTC will only qualify material and
parts produced from the same heat." The QTC will
not take any action, but the manufacturer may use
the QTC to take action.
Use passive voice: "A single QTC may be
used to material and parts produced from the
same heat."
Duplicate EW comment 149
149 Wehner,
Eric
5.8.1.3 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: "A QTC will only qualify material and
parts produced from the same heat." The QTC will
not take any action, but the manufacturer may use
the QTC to take action.
Use passive voice: "A single QTC may be
used to material and parts produced from the
same heat."
Already resolved
150 Goodman,
Roland
5.8.2 Figure 3 Editorial Figure 3 appears in 5.8.2 but is not referenced until
5.8.3.
Either reference Figure 3 in 5.8.2 or move it to
5.8.3.
Accept change and move. But need to
replace with current/correct picture (RG
will handle)
151 McCaskill,
John
5.8.2.1 Figure 1 General Graphics, not very clear The figure is not as clear and sharp as the one
shown on API 6A
Will be clear in publication
152 McCaskill,
John
5.8.2.1 Figure 2 General Graphics, not very clear The figure is not as clear and sharp as the one
shown on API 6A
Will be clear in publication
153 McCaskill,
John
5.8.3 Figure 3 General Graphics, not very clear It is very difficult to read the text in the figure,
increast the font size
Will be clear in publication
154 Grebing,
Kent
5.8.3.1 1st sentence Technical (1) Typo error?? "The QTC shall be processed using
a melting practice cleaner than that of the material it
qualifies," should be instead, "The QTC shall NOT be
processed using a melting practice cleaner than that
of the material it qualifies." (2) Example in
parentheses is a run-on sentence, making it
confusing.
Replace first sentence with: "The QTC shall
not be processed using a melting practice
cleaner than that of the material it qualifies.
(E.g., a QTC made from a remelt grade or
vacuum-degassed material shall not be used
to qualify material from the same primary melt,
if that material that has not experienced the
identical melting practice as the QTC.)"
Duplicate EW comment 155
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155 Wehner,
Eric
5.8.3.1 1st sentence Technical (1) Typo error?? "The QTC shall be processed using
a melting practice cleaner than that of the material it
qualifies," should be instead, "The QTC shall NOT be
processed using a melting practice cleaner than that
of the material it qualifies." (2) Example in
parentheses is a run-on sentence, making it
confusing.
Replace first sentence with: "The QTC shall
not be processed using a melting practice
cleaner than that of the material it qualifies.
(E.g., a QTC made from a remelt grade or
vacuum-degassed material shall not be used
to qualify material from the same primary melt,
if that material that has not experienced the
identical melting practice as the QTC.)"
Accept change
156 Larson, Eric 6.3.3.1 1 Technical Adding the specific requirement for AWS A.5.1 is
restrictive for filler metal specifications. 6A and 16A
do not restrict to A.5.1 but leave the wording to
'conform to AWS or manufacturer's specficiations'
remove the reference to A.5.1 Non-persuasive
157 McCaskill,
John
6.3.3.2.1 1 Editorial Grammatical error
Mechanical property of the weld metal = weld metal's
mechanical property
"...weld metal's mechanical properties..." Accept change
158 McCaskill,
John
6.3.5 Title Editorial Consistancy of writing style
"post weld" or "post-weld"
change to "Post-Weld" Accept change
159 O'Donnell,
David
6.3.5.4 Technical Why is Brinell testing removed from the document?
Table 11 has Brinell hardness listed. Document is
not homogeneous.
Add Brinell testing back into the document as it
is included in other API Specifications.
non-persuasive, BHN testing not
acceptable for welding qualification.
160 Grebing,
Kent
6.5.4.4 1st paragraph Editorial "These tests will confirm…" is not accepted
normative wording.
Change last sentence to read: "Test results for
the overlay material properties shall meet or
exceed the specified design requirements."
Duplicate EW comment 161
161 Wehner,
Eric
6.5.4.4 1st paragraph Editorial "These tests will confirm…" is not accepted
normative wording.
Change last sentence to read: "Test results for
the overlay material properties shall meet or
exceed the specified design requirements."
Accept change
162 Baniak,
Edmund
7.2.2.3 Editorial 7.2.2.3 Clause a) and part of b) are redundant with
the exception of "unique" in a).
Also, one "uses" a procedure...not "utilize" it.
Delete of measurement standard equipment in
b) and leave a) as is:
b) Identification of the calibration procedure
used in the calibration process.
Accept change
163 Baniak,
Edmund
7.2.2.3 Editorial Clause 7.2.2.3 c) and e) are redundant Delete one or the other. Accept change with modification
164 Baniak,
Edmund
7.2.2.4 Technical Last sentence of 7.2.2.4 seems contradictory. Why
would you want to remove requirements from
equipement requiring high accuracy? Maybe in
previous years, this was hard to achieve. But it
seems counterintuitive now.
Delete last sentence. Non-persuasive
165 Frazelle,
Andy
7.2.3 all Technical Does not align with API 53, the field requirements
(API53) are more rigorous than the shop
requirements. Seems backward
Align with API 53 for standardization Non-persuasive
166 Baniak,
Edmund
7.2.3.1 Editorial Reference to 7.2.2 in 7.2.3.1 seems wrong. Should it
be 7.2.3.
Change reference if required. Non-persuasive. Reference to 7.2 is
correct.
167 McCaskill,
John
7.2.3.1 1 Editorial Consistancy of writing style
"pressure measuring" or "pressure-measuring"
Change to "pressure measuring" Accept change with modification
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168 Nagy, Tibor 7.2.3.1 Editorial The referred section (7.4.9.5.3) is not in the
document.
Please correct the referred section number or
delete (see 7.4.9.5.3).
Accept Change
169 Baniak,
Edmund
7.2.3.2 Technical This wording is antiquated. This is a hard
requirement allowing only 3 calibration points. If
someone calibrates to 9 points (10-20-30-40...80-
90), they would be out of conformance with the
requirement (missing 25 and 75).
Change to standard use language from other
specs..."Pressure measuring devices shall be
recalibrated with a master pressure measuring
device or dead weight tester to at least three
equidistant points of full scale (excluding zero
and full scale as required points of
calibration)."
Accept change
170 Baniak,
Edmund
7.2.3.3 Technical Last sentence in 7.2.3.3 is incomplete. You need to
define an upper limit of acceptible time extension.
Add...The maximum allowable interval
between calibrations shall be one year.
Non-persuasive. Consistent with 6A
currently.
171 Frazelle,
Andy
7.3.2 4th bullet Technical How is the manufacturer's inspector trained. Seems
there may be conflict of interest
Remvoe this bullet and require that welding
inspectors are certified to external standard
Non-persuasive
172 McCaskill,
John
7.3.2 2 Technical Refer to the standard where the new statement came
from regarding the manufacturer having a written
procedure that defines the roles and resposibilities of
CWIs and CAWIs
"…variables and equipment monitoring, ref
AWS B5.1, P4.1. In-process welding…"
OR
"..."…variables and equipment monitoring [10].
In-process welding…"
and include the reference in the bibliography
Refer Back to TG for 3rd edition
173 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.4.1 Table 10 Technical End Outlets are combined but should be separate.
Example: 10.2 End and Outlet Connections
End and Outlet Connections Accept change
174 Grebing,
Kent
7.4.1 Table 10 Editorial Title of Table 10 was correct prior to the last revision
of the draft: "End and Outlet Connections" is the term
defined in 3.1.22, is the title of 10.2, and is used
throughout API 6A. "End Outlet Connections" is not
defined, and is used 4 times In the ballot draft; "End
and Outlet Connections" is used 17 times; "End or
Outlet Connections" is used 5 times.
Change title of Table 10 back to "Quality
Control Requirements for Bodies, Bonnets,
Choke and Kill Lines, and End and Outlet
Connections."
Duplicate EW comment 175
175 Wehner,
Eric
7.4.1 Table 10 Editorial Title of Table 10 was correct prior to the last revision
of the draft: "End and Outlet Connections" is the term
defined in 3.1.22, is the title of 10.2, and is used
throughout API 6A. "End Outlet Connections" is not
defined, and is used 4 times In the ballot draft; "End
and Outlet Connections" is used 17 times; "End or
Outlet Connections" is used 5 times.
Change title of Table 10 back to "Quality
Control Requirements for Bodies, Bonnets,
Choke and Kill Lines, and End and Outlet
Connections."
Accept Change
176 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.4.1 Table (figure?)
10
Editorial 1. There is no "Typical Assy as it varies per use
2. I believe articulated swivels have only one swivel
not two as pictured.
1. Check typical swivel joint configuratin
Title is as an Articulated Arranigment
Accept change with modification
177 McCaskill,
John
7.4.1 Table 10 Editorial The term "End and outlet connections" is a pre-
defined term, therefor the "and" is needed
Re-insert "and" to read;
"End and Outlet Connections"
Already resolved with #175
178 Larson, Eric 7.4.10.1 1 General Not being very familiar with drilling chokes, but are
actuator components pressure containing?
Non-persuasive
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179 Larson, Eric 7.4.10.2 Table 18 Technical If actuators are pressure containing parts per
7.4.10.1, then why are the quality control
requirements relaxed when comparing Table 18 to
Table 10?
Confirm whether the pressure containing parts
quality control requirements for Tables 18 and
10 should be consistent.
Non-persuasive
180 McCaskill,
John
7.4.11.2.1 1 Technical Reference error
ASQ Z1.4 or ANSI/ASQ Z1.4
Change to: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4" Accept change
181 McCaskill,
John
7.4.11.3.1 1 Technical Reference error
ASQ Z1.4 or ANSI/ASQ Z1.4
Change to: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4" Accept change
182 McCaskill,
John
7.4.11.4.1 1 Technical Reference error
ASQ Z1.4 or ANSI/ASQ Z1.4
Change to: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4" Accept change
183 Grebing,
Kent
7.4.13.1 a) bullet (a) Editorial Grammatical error: "wetted-end" should not be
hyphenated. The adjectives "wetted" and "end" are
not associated.
Change to read: "a) metallic fluid-wetted end
and outlet connections and end terminations"
Duplicate EW comment 184
184 Wehner,
Eric
7.4.13.1 a) bullet (a) Editorial Grammatical error: "wetted-end" should not be
hyphenated. The adjectives "wetted" and "end" are
not associated.
Change to read: "a) metallic fluid-wetted end
and outlet connections and end terminations"
Accept change
185 Grebing,
Kent
7.4.13.1 b) bullet (b) Editorial Grammatical error: "wetted-reinforcement" should not
be hyphenated. The adjectives "non-wetted" and
"reinforcement" are not associated.
Change to read: "b) metallic non-wetted
reinforcement windings and end terminations."
Duplicate EW comment 186
186 Wehner,
Eric
7.4.13.1 b) bullet (b) Editorial Grammatical error: "wetted-reinforcement" should not
be hyphenated. The adjectives "non-wetted" and
"reinforcement" are not associated.
Change to read: "b) metallic non-wetted
reinforcement windings and end terminations."
Accept change
187 McCaskill,
John
7.4.15.4.2.2 1 Technical Reference error
ISO 9303 and ISO 9305 has been revised by : ISO
10893-10:2011 (both have been incorporated into
the 1 standard)
Change the sentence to: "...inside surface in
accordance with ISO 10893-10:2011 or ASTM
E213 for both longitudinal and transverse
imperfections."
Accept change to ISO 10893-10 without
date
188 Powell, Troy 7.4.15.4.2.4 c General Reads .4" (1.2 mm) .04" (1.2 mm) Accept Change to .040" (1.0 mm)
189 McCaskill,
John
7.4.15.4.3 Table 22 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.
Dimension definition to be inside of the table
Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive
190 McCaskill,
John
7.4.15.5.2.1 1 Technical Reference error
ISO 13665 has been revised by : ISO 10893-5:2011
Change to : "ISO 10893-5:2011" Accept change to ISO 10893-5 without
date
191 McCaskill,
John
7.4.15.5.4.1 1 Technical Reference error
ISO 9303 has been revised by : ISO 10893-10:2011
Change to : "ISO 10893-10:2011" Accept change to ISO 10893-10 without
date
192 McCaskill,
John
7.4.15.5.5.1 1 Technical Reference error
ISO 9402 and ISO 9598 has been revised by : ISO
10893-3:2011 (both have been incorporated into the
1 standard)
Change the sentence to: outside diameter in
accordance with ISO 10893-3:2011 or ASTM
E570 for both longitudinal and transverse
imperfections."
Accept change to ISO 10893-3 without
date
193 Larson, Eric 7.4.6.1 Editorial Title of 7.4.6 and text in 7.4.6.1 are not in agreement. Add choke and kill lines to the tile of 7.4.6 Accept Change
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194 Grebing,
Kent
7.4.6.1 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined
in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not
defined. (2) "Requirements are found in…" is poor
grammar without identification of the finder.
"Requirements can be found in..." is better, but a
purely factual "Requirements are listed in..." is better
yet.
Replace 7.4.6.1 with: "Quality control
requirements for bodies, bonnets, choke and
kill lines, and end and outlet connections are
listed in Table 10."
Duplicate EW comment 196
195 McCaskill,
John
7.4.6.1 1 Editorial The term "End and outlet connections" is a pre-
defined term, therefor the "and" is needed
Re-insert "and" to read;
"End and Outlet Connections"
Accept change
196 Wehner,
Eric
7.4.6.1 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined
in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not
defined. (2) "Requirements are found in…" is poor
grammar without identification of the finder.
"Requirements can be found in..." is better, but a
purely factual "Requirements are listed in..." is better
yet.
Replace 7.4.6.1 with: "Quality control
requirements for bodies, bonnets, choke and
kill lines, and end and outlet connections are
listed in Table 10."
Accept change
197 McCaskill,
John
7.4.6.10.3 Table 12 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.
Dimension definition to be inside of the table
Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive
198 Baniak,
Edmund
7.4.6.11.4.2 Table 14 Editorial The table 14 in 7.4.6.11.4.2 looks remarkably similar
to table 15.
Combine Table 14 and Table 15 into one and
re-title as needed. [Then change references
to the deleted table]
Non-persuasive
199 McCaskill,
John
7.4.6.11.4.2 Table 14 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.
Dimension definition to be inside of the table
Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive
200 Goodman,
Roland
7.4.6.11.4.2 Table 14 Editorial Missing reference to Table 14. Add a reference to Table 14 in the text. Non-persuasive
201 McCaskill,
John
7.4.6.11.4.3 Table 15 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.
Dimension definition to be inside of the table
Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive
202 O'Donnell,
David
7.4.6.11.5.2 Technical Brinell issue again. Has Brinell and Rockwell
hardness testing.
Need to document to be consistent. Change to add ASTM E110 to allow
portable hardness testers. Product is
tested with either BHN or Rockwell
testing.203 Grebing,
Kent
7.4.6.4.3.1 1st paragraph Editorial The purpose of the minimum hardness criteria of
Table 11 is to verify minimum tensile strength
requirements are met. The method in 7.4.6.4.3.2 of
calculating tensile strength provides a means of
accepting a part that does not meet the mimimum
hardness requirement of Table 11. In such a case, it
is accurate to say that a part can be considered
acceptable, but not that it can be considered to have
an acceptable hardness.
Revise 7.4.6.4.3.1 to read: "If hardness test
results do not meet the required minimum
hardness value, the part may be considered
acceptable if the calculated tensile strength
based on the hardness measurement meets
the requirements of 7.4.6.4.3.2."
Duplicate EW comment 204
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204 Wehner,
Eric
7.4.6.4.3.1 1st paragraph Editorial The purpose of the minimum hardness criteria of
Table 11 is to verify minimum tensile strength
requirements are met. The method in 7.4.6.4.3.2 of
calculating tensile strength provides a means of
accepting a part that does not meet the mimimum
hardness requirement of Table 11. In such a case, it
is accurate to say that a part can be considered
acceptable, but not that it can be considered to have
an acceptable hardness.
Revise 7.4.6.4.3.1 to read: "If hardness test
results do not meet the required minimum
hardness value, the part may be considered
acceptable if the calculated tensile strength
based on the hardness measurement meets
the requirements of 7.4.6.4.3.2."
Accept change
205 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.1 Table 24 Technical Hydraulic Control System has been addded..
Actuators are already covered. If we are refering to
controls systems Electric must also be included.
Delete the addition or change to "Control
Systems"
Refer Back to TG for 3rd edition
206 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.12 Assembled
Manifold
General Now that 16C is Equipment not systems, the
Manifold is treated as a collection of components
and equipment
Manifold Assembly Accept change
207 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.12 Assembled
Manifold
Editorial If the intent is to not repeat proof tests the wording is
cumbersome and implies "loose equipment" does not
have to be tested.
A manifold assembley consisting of
components previously tested in accordance
with 7.5.4 shall be tested to Maximum Rated
Working Pressure prior to shipment from the
assembler's facility.
Already addressed
208 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.12 Assembled
Manifold
Technical other than "loose connectors". Loose connectors
has not been identified. Assuming it refers to blind
flanges and test port flanges this implies they do not
require test.
A manifold assembley consisting of
components previously tested in accordance
with 7.5.4 shall be tested to Maximum Rated
Working Pressure prior to shipment from the
assembler's facility.
Proposed Change: "other than loose
connectors, as defined in API 6A."
209 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.12 Assembled
Manifold
Editorial Loose Connectors, if used must be defined Add definition of "Loose Connectors" to
Section 3
Already addressed
210 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.12 Assembled
Manifold
General In reference to the term "Hydrostatic Test". This is
not defined anywhere in this specification. The
usage tends to compare with what is known as a
"Proof Test".Ref:UG-99, UG-100 & 101, ASME VIII
Substitute "Proof Test" where the intent is
150% of Maximum Rated Working Pressure.
Define it as such in Section 3.
Non-Persuasive
211 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.12 Assembled
Manifold
General For manifolds with multiple pressure ratings all
equipment upsteam of the pressure break shall be
etc. A Manifold of a specific configuration may be
offered in different pressure ratings but the Manifold
rating is dependent on the MWP of the chokes.
Delete the proposed change and retain the
original which clearly states the intent.
Accept change with modification.
212 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.12 Assembled
Manifold
Technical "'pressure break" is not defined and as a new term
requires definition
Preferably delete the proposed change.
Alternatively add definition of Pressure Break
to section 3
Get language from S53 for dual-rated
chokes.
213 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.12 Assembled
Manifold
General Testing of assembled manifold.should be done in
two stages. Upstream of the choke to the choke
MWP and downstream of the choke.for the lower
rated components
If the Manifold Assembly consists of
components with two pressure ratings, the
higher rated section shall be tested seperately
to it's rated rated working pressure.. Upon
final assembley the manifold shall be retested
to the lower rated working pressure.
Resolved
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214 Frazelle,
Andy
7.5.12 1 General Exception requires simplification. Does the exception
mean that the assembled manifold FAT test pressure
should only be to RWP and not to 1.5 times RWP
during FAT, If individual components have already
undergone testing to 1.5 times RWP?
See wording in comment box Re-wrote section reference hydrostatic
proof test.
215 McCaskill,
John
7.5.12 1 Editorial Defragmented sentence Change to: "...in accordance with 7.5.4, except
for manifolds assembled entirely with
equipment, other than loose connectors, that
has been previously subjected to hydrostatic
testing, to which, testing is only necessary to
woring pressure."
Resolved in previous comment #214.
216 Stewart,
Chris
7.5.12 No. 1 Technical The point of this paragraph is to hydro test the
assembled manifold; however, the paragraph now
allows exceptions such that the individual
components can be hydro tested seperately then
assembled. It seems reasonable to do this as long as
the assembled manifold is still tested to 1.1 x RWP.
…"only testing to 1.10 times the rated working
pressure is necessary."...
Refer to #214
217 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.13.2 Last sentence Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include
gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of
16C.
Replace last sentence with "Test media shall
be water with or without additives or other
suitable hydraulic fluid.."
Duplicate EW comment 218
218 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.13.2 Last sentence Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include
gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of
16C.
Replace last sentence with "Test media shall
be water with or without additives or other
suitable hydraulic fluid.."
Non-Persuasive
219 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.13.3 Acceptance
Criteria
Editorial In the statement "There shall be no visible leakage, it
would be more accurate to use discernable.
There shall be no discernable leakage Non-persuasive
220 Frazelle,
Andy
7.5.13.3 1st sentence Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Non-persuasive
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221 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.4.1 General The phrase "prior to shipment from the
manufacturer's facility" is neither a technical
requirement nor a standardization requirement, it is a
commercial restraint that does not belong in a
product specification. The manufacturer may have
reason to perform hydrostatic testing at a
subcontractor or corporate sister facility. If the
manufacturer has documented procedures and off-
site personnel to control the test process and final
acceptance, the product spec should not require that
the equipment be shipped back to the OEM facility
before shiipment to the customer. E.g., if a fully
assembled choke manifold is too large for road
shipment, it may be shipped to a dockside facility in
sub-sections, fully assembled and tested there, and
shipped by water to the purchaser directly from the
remote facility. This is a logistics exercise only and
does not compromise the product, the
manufacturer's quality management system, or any
institution's use of the word "manufacturer."
Replace "prior to shipment from the
manufacturer's facility" with "prior to final
acceptance."
Duplicate EW comment 222
222 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.4.1 General The phrase "prior to shipment from the
manufacturer's facility" is neither a technical
requirement nor a standardization requirement, it is a
commercial restraint that does not belong in a
product specification. The manufacturer may have
reason to perform hydrostatic testing at a
subcontractor or corporate sister facility. If the
manufacturer has documented procedures and off-
site personnel to control the test process and final
acceptance, the product spec should not require that
the equipment be shipped back to the OEM facility
before shiipment to the customer. E.g., if a fully
assembled choke manifold is too large for road
shipment, it may be shipped to a dockside facility in
sub-sections, fully assembled and tested there, and
shipped by water to the purchaser directly from the
remote facility. This is a logistics exercise only and
does not compromise the product, the
manufacturer's quality management system, or any
institution's use of the word "manufacturer."
Replace "prior to shipment from the
manufacturer's facility" with "prior to final
acceptance."
Accept change with modification.
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223 Frazelle,
Andy
7.5.4.1 1st para Technical The sentence that reads "Hydrostatic test pressure
shall not be applied as a differential pressure across
internal…" is a limiting sentence. Though chokes are
not required to isolate, we should not prohibit this
test with a SHALL NOT. From a field perspective I
am more likely to purchase a choke that has this
capability. However, given that wording we prohibit
the OEM from proving this.
Reword to clarify that the choke does not need
to be tested as an isolation device but do not
prohibit this test.
Non-persuasive
224 O'Donnell,
David
7.5.4.2 Technical The "timing" paragraph is too restrictive for the
pressures and volumes that may exist, i.e. kill and
choke lines.
Needs to be defined by the manufacturer in his
documented test specifications.
Non-Persuasive
225 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.4.2 Hydraulic
Tesing Method
manufacturer
specified
Technical Stabilized (Pressure Testing) is not defined.
Situations where exist where requirements exceed
Manufacture's specification
The state where pressure decrease is reduced
to a degree specified by the manufacture or
other applicable standard, which evere is the
least.
Non-Persuasive
226 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.4.2 Hydraulic
Testing
Technical "External assembley surfaces are throughly dry" isn't
adequete. Typical procedure is to use shop air to
reach trapped fluid which may present itself during
the pressure test.
and the exterior of the component to be tested
has been throughly dried and free of trapped
moisture. (Alternatively) and the exterior
surfaces are completely dry.
Non-Persuasive
227 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.5.4.2 Hydraulic
Testing
Editorial "which ever is less over the test period" is not
applicable when refering to the period before the test
starts. Both requirements stipulate it is a change over
a one minute period
which ever is less. Accept change with modification.
228 Young,
Kenneth
7.5.4.2 Technical Stabilized pressure definition is extremely tight when
the criteria is the lesser of 0.1% or 10 psi/min.
Change to "… 0.1% of the testing pressure per
minute or 10 psi/min, whichever is the greater
over the test period."
Re-wrote. Deleted "over test period".
229 McCaskill,
John
7.5.4.3 Table 25 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.
Dimension definition to be inside of the table
Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive
230 Frazelle,
Andy
7.5.4.4 1st sentence Technical Need to include a stable pressure component to the
acceptance criteria for perssure testing. In shop
conditions this must be achievable.
Add a stable pressure component to
acceptance criteria for pressure testing
Already Resolved #228
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231 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.5, 7.5.6,
7.5.7
Editorial The clause titles and organization of 7.5.5 - 7.5.7 is
confusing (as was 16C 1st edition). Tests for manual
and remote chokes are not clearly distinguished.
Testing for positive chokes is not identified at all.
Reorganize and re-title 7.5.5 - 7.5.7 as follows:
7.5.5 Hydrostatic testing for adjustable &
positive drilling chokes
7.5.5.1 Body test
7.5.5.2 Seat-to-body seal test
7.5.6 Actuators for drilling chokes
7.5.6.1 Hydrostatic actuator shell test
7.5.6.2 Actuator function test
7.5.6.3 Actuator seal test
7.5.7 Functional testing for adjustable drilling
choke and choke/actuator assemblies
7.5.7.1 General
7.5.7.2 Torque test - manually actuated
chokes
7.5.7.3 Function test - all adjustable chokes
Duplicate EW comment 232
232 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.5, 7.5.6,
7.5.7
Editorial The clause titles and organization of 7.5.5 - 7.5.7 is
confusing (as was 16C 1st edition). Tests for manual
and remote chokes are not clearly distinguished.
Testing for positive chokes is not identified at all.
Reorganize and re-title 7.5.5 - 7.5.7 as follows:
7.5.5 Hydrostatic testing for adjustable &
positive drilling chokes
7.5.5.1 Body test
7.5.5.2 Seat-to-body seal test
7.5.6 Actuators for drilling chokes
7.5.6.1 Hydrostatic actuator shell test
7.5.6.2 Actuator function test
7.5.6.3 Actuator seal test
7.5.7 Functional testing for adjustable drilling
choke and choke/actuator assemblies
7.5.7.1 General
7.5.7.2 Torque test - manually actuated
chokes
7.5.7.3 Function test - all adjustable chokes
Accept Change with modification.
Remove section 7.5.3.
233 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.5.1 1st paragraph Technical The body test at 1.5 X RWP must be performed prior
to the seat-to-body seal test and the functional test,
to verify that any permanent deformation that occurs
in the body test does not affect sealing or operation
of the choke.
Replace 7.5.5.1 and combine with existing
7.5.5.2 to read: "7.5.5.1 Hydrostatic Body
Test: Each adjustable choke and positive
choke shall be subjected to a hydrostatic body
test in accordance with 7.5.4. The body test
shall be performed prior to all other testing of
7.5.5."
Duplicate EW comment 234
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234 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.5.1 1st paragraph Technical The body test at 1.5 X RWP must be performed prior
to the seat-to-body seal test and the functional test,
to verify that any permanent deformation that occurs
in the body test does not affect sealing or operation
of the choke.
Replace 7.5.5.1 and combine with existing
7.5.5.2 to read: "7.5.5.1 Hydrostatic Body
Test: Each adjustable choke and positive
choke shall be subjected to a hydrostatic body
test in accordance with 7.5.4. The body test
shall be performed prior to all other testing of
7.5.5."
Accept Change
235 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.5.1, 7.5.11,
7.5.12
General The phrase "prior to shipment from the
manufacturer's facility" is redundant to the same
phrase in 7.5.4.1. Clause 7.5.4 applies to all
hydrostatic pressure testing of 7.5.5 - 7.5.13.
Delete "prior to shipment from the
manufacturer's facility" from 7.5.5.1, 7.5.6.1.1,
7.5.11, & 7.5.12.
Duplicate EW comment 236
236 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.5.1, 7.5.11,
7.5.12
General The phrase "prior to shipment from the
manufacturer's facility" is redundant to the same
phrase in 7.5.4.1. Clause 7.5.4 applies to all
hydrostatic pressure testing of 7.5.5 - 7.5.13.
Delete "prior to shipment from the
manufacturer's facility" from 7.5.5.1, 7.5.6.1.1,
7.5.11, & 7.5.12.
Accept Change
237 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.5.2 1st paragraph Editorial 7.5.5.2 applies to 7.5.5.1, and does not fit the clause
numbering of 7.5.
Replace 7.5.5.1 and combine with existing
7.5.5.2 to read: "7.5.5.1 Hydrostatic Body
Test: Each adjustable choke and positive
choke shall be subjected to a hydrostatic body
test in accordance with 7.5.4. The body test
shall be performed prior to all other testing of
7.5.5, 7.5.6, and 7.5.7."
Duplicate EW comment 238
238 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.5.2 1st paragraph Editorial 7.5.5.2 applies to 7.5.5.1, and does not fit the clause
numbering of 7.5.
Replace 7.5.5.1 and combine with existing
7.5.5.2 to read: "7.5.5.1 Hydrostatic Body
Test: Each adjustable choke and positive
choke shall be subjected to a hydrostatic body
test in accordance with 7.5.4. The body test
shall be performed prior to all other testing of
7.5.5, 7.5.6, and 7.5.7."
Accept change.
239 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.5.3 7.5.5.3.1 &
7.5.5.3.2
Technical The "function test" of 7.5.5.3 is excessive, unrealistic,
and without technical justification. Proper use of
drilling chokes as described in 10.7.1, to control
downstream pressure, typically does not include
operation at or near full open or full closed. The
requirement to run 20 full open-close-open cycles at
full RWP is more akin to an extreme "break-in"
procedure or design validation test than a factory
acceptance test. It would result in purchasers
receiving new chokes with an unknown amount of
wear to stem seals, drive threads, bearings, mating
seat components, and other parts. 7.5.5.3 includes
no indication of whether it applies to both manual
and remote-actuated chokes, or why it is separate
from the function test of 7.5.7.3.1 and the torque test
of 7.5.7.2.1.
Delete 20-hz test of 7.5.5.3 and clarify that 3-
Hz test of 7.5.7.3.1 applies to all adjustable
chokes, manually or remotely actuated.
Assign to John M as an action item.
Resolved and accepted 3 hz.
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240 Whitby,
Melvyn
7.5.5.3.1 Technical Why do we subject both hydraulic and manual drilling
chokes to a 20 cycle test when they have already
been subjected to the validation testing through
A10.3 through A10.7?
Cycle the stem at rated working pressure a
minimum 3 times, open-close-open. The
mating parts shall be free of all lubrication not
specified in the manufacturer’s operating
manual.
Accept Change
241 Whitby,
Melvyn
7.5.5.3.1 Technical Why do we subject both hydraulic and manual drilling
chokes to a 20 cycle test when they have already
been subjected to the validation testing through
A10.3 through A10.7?
Cycle the stem at rated working pressure a
minimum 3 times, open-close-open. The
mating parts shall be free of all lubrication not
specified in the manufacturer’s operating
manual.
Redundant
242 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.5.3.1 &
7.5.5.3.2
Technical The "function test" of 7.5.5.3 is excessive, unrealistic,
and without technical justification. Proper use of
drilling chokes as described in 10.7.1, to control
downstream pressure, typically does not include
operation at or near full open or full closed. The
requirement to run 20 full open-close-open cycles at
full RWP is more akin to an extreme "break-in"
procedure or design validation test than a factory
acceptance test. It would result in purchasers
receiving new chokes with an unknown amount of
wear to stem seals, drive threads, bearings, mating
seat components, and other parts. 7.5.5.3 includes
no indication of whether it applies to both manual
and remote-actuated chokes, or why it is separate
from the function test of 7.5.7.3.1 and the torque test
of 7.5.7.2.1.
Delete 20-hz test of 7.5.5.3 and clarify that 3-
Hz test of 7.5.7.3.1 applies to all adjustable
chokes, manually or remotely actuated.
Duplicate EW comment 239
243 Frazelle,
Andy
7.5.5.4.2 1st sentence Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Accept change. Incorporate langauge
from 7.5.4.4.
244 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.6.1.1 1st paragraph General indicating mechanism should indicate equivalent
orifice size, not area, to be consistent with revision to
10.7.6 and API 6A.
Replace 7.5.6.1.1 with: "Each actuator shall be
subjected to an actuato body shell test to verify
structural integrity of the pressure-containing
parts."
Duplicate EW comment 245
245 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.6.1.1 1st paragraph General Indicating mechanism should indicate equivalent
orifice size, not area, to be consistent with revision to
10.7.6 and API 6A.
Replace 7.5.6.1.1 with: "Each actuator shall be
subjected to an actuator body shell test to
verify structural integrity of the pressure-
containing parts."
Change log is wrong. Assign as Action
Item to Eric and Roland.
246 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.6.1.2 1st paragraph Editorial (1) The phrase "for actuators with a choke maximum
rated working pressure less than or equal to 20,000
psi (138 MPa)" is unnecessary, since the maximum
RWP specified in Tables 2-4 is 20,000 psi (138
MPa).(2) The test of 7.5.6.1.2 is not an interface test;
it is an actuator shell test. (3) Double-acting
actuators must be tested on both sides.
Replace 1st paragraph of 7.5.6.1.2 with: "The
hydraulic portion of the actuator shall be tested
to 1.5 times the maximum rated working
pressure of the actuator. For double-acting
actuators, both functions shall be tested. (e.g.,
both sides of the piston and cylinder) This test
may be performed as part of the hydraulic
control system test."
Duplicate EW comment 248
247 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.6.1.2 2nd paragraph Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include
gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of
16C.
Replace 2nd paragraph of 7.5.6.1.2 with "Test
media shall be water with or without additives
or other suitable hydraulic fluid."
Duplicate EW comment 249
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248 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.6.1.2 1st paragraph Editorial (1) The phrase "for actuators with a choke maximum
rated working pressure less than or equal to 20,000
psi (138 MPa)" is unnecessary, since the maximum
RWP specified in Tables 2-4 is 20,000 psi (138
MPa).(2) The test of 7.5.6.1.2 is not an interface test;
it is an actuator shell test. (3) Double-acting
actuators must be tested on both sides.
Replace 1st paragraph of 7.5.6.1.2 with: "The
hydraulic portion of the actuator shall be tested
to 1.5 times the maximum rated working
pressure of the actuator. For double-acting
actuators, both functions shall be tested. (e.g.,
both sides of the piston and cylinder) This test
may be performed as part of the hydraulic
control system test."
Assign to John and Eric to propose
language by end of week.
249 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.6.1.2 2nd paragraph Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include
gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of
16C.
Replace 2nd paragraph of 7.5.6.1.2 with "Test
media shall be water with or without additives
or other suitable hydraulic fluid."
Non-persuasive
250 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.6.2.1 Last sentence Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include
gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of
16C.
Replace last sentence with "Test media shall
be water with or without additives or other
suitable hydraulic fluid.."
Duplicate EW comment 251
251 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.6.2.1 Last sentence Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include
gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of
16C.
Replace last sentence with "Test media shall
be water with or without additives or other
suitable hydraulic fluid.."
Non-persuasive
252 Frazelle,
Andy
7.5.6.3.1 1st para Technical Why are pneumatic actuators tested more rigorously
than hydraulic actuators?
Test both to the same standard or provide
reasoning for the difference
It is more difficult to detect gas leakage
than fluid leakage. Non-persuasive.
253 Frazelle,
Andy
7.5.6.3.2 1st sentence Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Non-persuasive
254 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.7.2.1,
7.5.7.2.2,
7.5.7.2.3
Technical (1) No body pressure requirement is specified. (2)
Test is for manual chokes, but is found under 7.5.7
Drilling Choke and Actuator Assembly.
Replace 7.5.7.2.1 with: "7.5.7.2.1 Operating
torque test - manually actuated drlling chokes:
The breakaway and running torque for
manually actuated chokes shall be measured
and documented at maximum rated working
pressure."
Duplicate EW comment 255
255 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.7.2.1,
7.5.7.2.2,
7.5.7.2.3
Technical (1) No body pressure requirement is specified. (2)
Test is for manual chokes, but is found under 7.5.7
Drilling Choke and Actuator Assembly.
Replace 7.5.7.2.1 with: "7.5.7.2.1 Operating
torque test - manually actuated drlling chokes:
The breakaway and running torque for
manually actuated chokes shall be measured
and documented at maximum rated working
pressure."
Accept Change
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256 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.7.3.1 1st paragraph Technical (1) The function test of 7.5.7.3 should be required for
manually actuated, hydraulically actuated, and
electrically actuated drilling chokes. The phrase
"choke and actuator assembly" plus the test media
listed imply that it only applies to chokes with
hydraulic actuators. (2) Neither "normal position" nor
"fully stroked position" is defined, or in common use,
or obvious as to meaning for a drilling choke.
Replace 7.5.7.3.1 with: "For manually
actuated, hydraulically actuated, and
electrically actuated drilling chokes: Each
adjustable drilling choke (and actuator)
assembly shall be tested for proper operation
by cycling the choke/actuator from the
minimum-orifice position to the maximum-
orifice position, for a minimum of three min-
max-min cycles, at the maximum rated working
pressure of the choke. Test media shall be a
suitable fluid or a gas such as air or nitrogen.
- For manually actuated chokes, the
manufacturer's specified operating torque shall
not be exceeded."
- For hydraulically actuated chokes, the
manufacturer's specified operating pressure
shall not be exceeded.
- For electrically actuated chokes, the
manufacturer's specified voltage and/or
current shall not be exceeded."
Duplicate EW comment 258
257 McCaskill,
John
7.5.7.3.1 1 Editorial Grammatical error : missing preposition "for" Change to : "...to the fully stroked position for a
minimum of three cycles..."
Accept Change
258 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.7.3.1 1st paragraph Technical (1) The function test of 7.5.7.3 should be required for
manually actuated, hydraulically actuated, and
electrically actuated drilling chokes. The phrase
"choke and actuator assembly" plus the test media
listed imply that it only applies to chokes with
hydraulic actuators. (2) Neither "normal position" nor
"fully stroked position" is defined, or in common use,
or obvious as to meaning for a drilling choke.
Replace 7.5.7.3.1 with: "For manually
actuated, hydraulically actuated, and
electrically actuated drilling chokes: Each
adjustable drilling choke (and actuator)
assembly shall be tested for proper operation
by cycling the choke/actuator from the
minimum-orifice position to the maximum-
orifice position, for a minimum of three min-
max-min cycles, at the maximum rated working
pressure of the choke. Test media shall be a
suitable fluid or a gas such as air or nitrogen.
- For manually actuated chokes, the
manufacturer's specified operating torque shall
not be exceeded."
- For hydraulically actuated chokes, the
manufacturer's specified operating pressure
shall not be exceeded.
- For electrically actuated chokes, the
manufacturer's specified voltage and/or
current shall not be exceeded."
Accept Change
259 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.7.3.2 1st paragraph Technical The acceptance criterion should be for choke
operation characteristics. The given criterion of
smooth actuator operation is redundant of 7.5.6.2.2.
Replace 7.5.7.3.2 with: "The choke and
actuation mechanism shall operate smoothly,
without binding or chattering."
Duplicate EW comment 260
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260 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.7.3.2 1st paragraph Technical The acceptance criterion should be for choke
operation characteristics. The given criterion of
smooth actuator operation is redundant of 7.5.6.2.2.
Replace 7.5.7.3.2 with: "The choke and
actuation mechanism shall operate smoothly,
without binding or chattering."
Accept Change
261 Grebing,
Kent
7.5.8, 7.5.10 General The phrase "prior to leaving the manufacturer's
facility" is redundant to the phrase ""prior to shipment
from the manufacturer's facility" in 7.5.4.1. Clause
7.5.4 applies to all hydrostatic pressure testing of
7.5.5 - 7.5.13.
Delete "prior to leaving the manufacturer's
facility" from 7.5.8 & 7.5.10.
Duplicate EW comment 262
262 Wehner,
Eric
7.5.8, 7.5.10 General The phrase "prior to leaving the manufacturer's
facility" is redundant to the phrase ""prior to shipment
from the manufacturer's facility" in 7.5.4.1. Clause
7.5.4 applies to all hydrostatic pressure testing of
7.5.5 - 7.5.13.
Delete "prior to leaving the manufacturer's
facility" from 7.5.8 & 7.5.10.
Already Resolved.
263 McCaskill,
John
7.6.4 1 Editorial Consistancy of writing style
Punctuation before list . or :
Change to: "The manufacturer shall maintain
the following records:"
Non-persuasive
264 McCaskill,
John
7.6.4 g) 3 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.
Singular or plural.
Change to: "filler material types" Non-persuasive
265 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.6.4 g) Technical g) Welding process records - filler materials "type".
The word 'type' lessens the requirement and creates
confusion. Rods of the same alpha/numeric
description can hae different composition. Type also
refers to such things as rod, wire or low hydrogen.
Simply stating 'Filler material' reqires identification
inclusive of material traceability
Delete the word "type" Accept Change
266 Cherbonnie
r, David
7.6.4 h) Technical h) heat treatment records. Stating actual temperature
and times at temperature doesn't require slopes and
can be satisfied with numbers when a chart is more
accurate.
=- All heat treatment performed as prescribed
in applicable Welding Procedures shall be
chart recorded
- Part number and serial number of
components receiving the heat treatment shall
be recorded on the chart.
Action item David C to address where in
document this should be covered.
267 Baniak,
Edmund
8.1 Technical There is always the concern that a manufacturer of
equipment using components made to another spec
will change some of the marking from that spec.
Add a sentence to the end of 8.1, "Markings
on equipment maufactured under a different
specification shall not be removed or
otherwise altered on that equipment."
Accept Change
268 Grebing,
Kent
8.1 2nd sentence General Second sentence is unacceptable as written: "The
API 16C identification shall be applied... only by
manufacturers who meet all the requirements of this
specification." API product specifications provide
requirements for equipment; they do not restrict who
can use the standard nor do they address
qualification of manufacturers.
Delete 2nd sentence or replace with: "The API
16C identification shall be applied only as
specified and only to equiipment that meets all
the requirements of this specification."
Duplicate EW comment 269
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269 Wehner,
Eric
8.1 2nd sentence General Second sentence is unacceptable as written: "The
API 16C identification shall be applied... only by
manufacturers who meet all the requirements of this
specification." API product specifications provide
requirements for equipment; they do not restrict who
can use the standard nor do they address
qualification of manufacturers.
Delete 2nd sentence or replace with: "The API
16C identification shall be applied only as
specified and only to equiipment that meets all
the requirements of this specification."
Deleted second sentence. Did not
replace with proposed language.
270 Baniak,
Edmund
8.2 Technical referencing something that is "allowed" should be
driven by a requirement. Allowing something does
not mandate it, so using a requriement reference is
still OK
Change to:
..."use of sharp "V" stamping shall be allowed."
Accept Change
271 Baniak,
Edmund
8.3 Technical referencing something that is not "allowed" should be
driven by a requirement. Allowing something does
not mandate it, so using a requriement reference is
still OK
Change is allowed and is not allowed to, shall
be allowed and shall not be allowed.
Modified first sentence and removed
second sentence.
272 Grebing,
Kent
8.3 1st sentence Technical There are accepted methods of low-stress marking
not included in the three methods listed, and no
allowance is made for new technology.
Replace first sentence with: "For identification
on high stress areas, low-stress marking
methods shall be used, e.g., dot stamp,
vibratory scribe, round “V” stamp, photo-
etching."
Duplicate EW comment 274
273 Grebing,
Kent
8.3 2nd sentence Technical The second sentence is unnecessary and insufficient
for the intended purpose. It is contrary to industry
practice. The use of sharp-vee stamping on high-
stress areas, even with stress relief heat treat, is not
accepted by end users and not practiced by
manufacturers. With no specific stress relief
procedure incuded, compliance would be impossible
to verify.
Delete 2nd sentence. Duplicate EW comment 275
274 Wehner,
Eric
8.3 1st sentence Technical There are accepted methods of low-stress marking
not included in the three methods listed, and no
allowance is made for new technology.
Replace first sentence with: "For identification
on high stress areas, low-stress marking
methods shall be used, e.g., dot stamp,
vibratory scribe, round “V” stamp, photo-
etching."
Accept Change
275 Wehner,
Eric
8.3 2nd sentence Technical The second sentence is unnecessary and insufficient
for the intended purpose. It is contrary to industry
practice. The use of sharp-vee stamping on high-
stress areas, even with stress relief heat treat, is not
accepted by end users and not practiced by
manufacturers. With no specific stress relief
procedure incuded, compliance would be impossible
to verify.
Delete 2nd sentence. Accept Change
276 McCaskill,
John
8.4 Table 26,
Marking
Editorial Orifice area is not used by any manufacturer, nor is it
understood by rig personnel. An equivalent orifice
measurement should be used, so that all types of
choke can be covered.
Orifice Area Size Eric will submit by end of week.
277 Nagy, Tibor 8.4 Table 26 Editorial Marking of FSL level for flexible C&K lines is
required in section 10.10.10, but not in Table 26
Add marking of FSL level of flexible C&K lines
to Table 26
Accept change. Added row in table 26
for FSL.
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278 Nagy, Tibor 8.4 Table 26,
Figure 8
Editorial Controversy between note "b" of Tab 26 and Fig 8.
For maximum safety clamp distance note "b" gives 3
ft, Fig 8 gives 1,5 ft.
Change Figure 8 to "Max 3ft", regarding safety
clamp distance
Already been resolved. Will revise figure
in document. Roland will handle
279 Frazelle,
Andy
8.5 Table 26 Technical Articulated lines, swivel joints, unions, rigid piping,
buffer chamber - no assembly serial number or
pressure rating required?
Suggest pressure rating and serial number are
marked on equipment as a minimum.
Resolved
280 Baniak,
Edmund
9.1.7 Technical Ring joint gaskets are not manufactured in this
specification so why are there requriements tagged
to shipping. This may be a "purchasing" requirement
if the company is buying RJGs, but the requirement
is misplaced here.
Delete "and shipping" from 9.1.7 Non-persuasive
281 Grebing,
Kent
10.1 2nd sentence Editorial 10.1 is general introduction to specific requirements
for all equipment. The second sentence is specific to
choke and kill manifolds and does not belong in 10.1.
Move 2nd sentence of 10.1 to 10.14.2. Duplicate EW comment 282
282 Wehner,
Eric
10.1 2nd sentence Editorial 10.1 is general introduction to specific requirements
for all equipment. The second sentence is specific to
choke and kill manifolds and does not belong in 10.1.
Move 2nd sentence of 10.1 to 10.14.2. Accept Change
283 Grebing,
Kent
10.2 1st paragraph Technical Last sentence, "Type 6B may also be used as a
threaded flange," is not applicable to 10.2 or to the
scope of 16C. API 6B threaded flanges are loose
connectors only; 6A does not allow for integral or
welding-end flanges to be threaded. Clause 10.2
covers integral end connections used on 16C
equipment.
Delete "Type 6B may also be used as a
threaded flange."
Duplicate EW comment 287
284 Grebing,
Kent
10.2 1st paragraph Editorial First sentence is awkwardly worded, such that
intended requirement is not clear.
Replace first sentence with:
"End and outlet connections used on
equipment covered by this specification shall
be one or more of the following:
- 6B and 6BX flanged connectors as specified
in API 6A,
- 6B and 6BX studded connectors as specified
in API 6A,
- 16B and 16BX clamp-hub connectors as
specified in API 16A,
- other end connectors (OECs) as specified in
API 6A."
Duplicate EW comment 288
285 McCaskill,
John
10.2 1 Editorial Defragmented sentence Chnage : "End and outlet connection, Type 6B
and 6BX, as defined in API 6A, 16BX and 16A
and other connections as defined herein and
in API 6A, may be used as ...."
Resolved with #290
286 McCaskill,
John
10.2 1 General Referencing types "type 6B, 6BX and segmented" Non-persuasive
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287 Wehner,
Eric
10.2 1st paragraph Technical Last sentence, "Type 6B may also be used as a
threaded flange," is not applicable to 10.2 or to the
scope of 16C. API 6B threaded flanges are loose
connectors only; 6A does not allow for integral or
welding-end flanges to be threaded. Clause 10.2
covers integral end connections used on 16C
equipment.
Delete "Type 6B may also be used as a
threaded flange."
Accept Change
288 Wehner,
Eric
10.2 1st paragraph Editorial First sentence is awkwardly worded, such that
intended requirement is not clear.
Replace first sentence with:
"End and outlet connections used on
equipment covered by this specification shall
be one or more of the following:
- 6B and 6BX flanged connectors as specified
in API 6A,
- 6B and 6BX studded connectors as specified
in API 6A,
- 16B and 16BX clamp-hub connectors as
specified in API 16A,
- other end connectors (OECs) as specified in
API 6A."
Already resolved
289 Grebing,
Kent
10.3.1 1st paragraph Editorial " are designed for…" is informative, not normative as
worded, i.e., conveys no requirements.
Replace with: "API 16C shall be used with
pressure ratings listed in Table 1, Table 2 and
Table 3. API 16BX connectors shall be used
with pressure ratings listed in API 16A."
Duplicate EW comment 291
290 McCaskill,
John
10.3.1 1 Editorial Consistancy of style of writing. When listing tables,
figures etc there is no need to say: "table1, table 2,
table 3, ...." (see section 4.1.1)
Tables 1, 2, and 3 Non-persuasive
291 Wehner,
Eric
10.3.1 1st paragraph Editorial " are designed for…" is informative, not normative as
worded, i.e., conveys no requirements.
Replace with: "API 16C connectors shall be
used with pressure ratings listed in Table 1,
Table 2 and Table 3. API 16BX connectors
shall be used with pressure ratings listed in
API 16A."
Accept change as modified
292 Grebing,
Kent
10.3.1, 10.3.2,
10.3.3
Editorial (1) 10.3.2 and 10.3.3 are not related to the subject of
10.3, rated working pressure of end connections.The
requirements for OECs and corrosion-resistant ring
grooves are not dependent on pressure rating. (2)
10.3 relates only to end connections and should be
included in 10.2 to be consistent with the remainder
of Clause 10.
Restructure 10.2 and 10.3 as follows:
- Make current 10.2 clause 10.2.1: General.
- Make current 10.3.1 clause 10.2.2: Pressure
Ratings.
- Make current 10.3.2 clause 10.2.3: Other
End Connectors.
- Make current 10.3.3 clause 10.2.4: Corrosion-
Resistant Ring Grooves.
- Renumber clauses 10.4 - 10.14 accordingly
OR change 10.14 to 10.3 and leave 10.4 -
10.13 as numbered.
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293 Wehner,
Eric
10.3.1, 10.3.2,
10.3.3
Editorial (1) 10.3.2 and 10.3.3 are not related to the subject of
10.3, rated working pressure of end connections.The
requirements for OECs and corrosion-resistant ring
grooves are not dependent on pressure rating. (2)
10.3 relates only to end connections and should be
included in 10.2 to be consistent with the remainder
of Clause 10.
Restructure 10.2 and 10.3 as follows:
- Make current 10.2 clause 10.2.1: General.
- Make current 10.3.1 clause 10.2.2: Pressure
Ratings.
- Make current 10.3.2 clause 10.2.3: Other
End Connectors.
- Make current 10.3.3 clause 10.2.4: Corrosion-
Resistant Ring Grooves.
- Renumber clauses 10.4 - 10.14 accordingly
OR change 10.14 to 10.3 and leave 10.4 -
10.13 as numbered.
Accept change with modifications
294 Grebing,
Kent
10.3.2 1st paragraph Editorial "Refer to API 6A" is not a normative statement, i.e.,
conveys no requirements.
Replace 10.3.2 with: "Other end connectors,
including union connectors, shall comply with
API 6A requirements for Other end
connectors."
Duplicate EW comment 295
295 Wehner,
Eric
10.3.2 1st paragraph Editorial "Refer to API 6A" is not a normative statement, i.e.,
conveys no requirements.
Replace 10.3.2 with: "Other end connectors,
including union connectors, shall comply with
API 6A requirements for Other end
connectors."
Accept change with modification
(conform verus comply)
296 McCaskill,
John
10.3.3 1 General Referencing types "type 6B, 6BX and segmented" Non-persuasive
297 Nagy, Tibor 10.4.4 Editorial Reference to Table 22 is a mistake, the correct one
is Table 23
Change reference to Table 23 Accept Change
298 Grebing,
Kent
10.4.5 1st paragraph Editorial are to be supplied with… is not recommended
normative language.
Replace with: "Unions shall be supplied with
butt weld or flanged ends. Line pipe threads
are not an acceptable end connections."
Duplicate EW comment 299
299 Wehner,
Eric
10.4.5 1st paragraph Editorial are to be supplied with… is not recommended
normative language.
Replace with: "Unions shall be supplied with
butt weld or flanged ends. Line pipe threads
are not an acceptable end connections."
Accept change with modification to
second sentence.
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300 Grebing,
Kent
10.5.2 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "are used with…" is informative, not normative as
worded, i.e., conveys no requirements. (2) The
statement "Types R and RX gaskets are
interchangeable in Type R ring grooves," is not
always accurate for use in manifolds with multiple
parallel runs, since the flange stand-off is different.
Replace all of 10.5.2 with the following:
"API Type R, RX, and BX ring-joint gaskets
shall be used in API flanged, studded and
hubbed connections.
• Type 6B flanged and studded connections
with Type R ring grooves shall be assembled
with either Type R or Type RX ring gaskets
NOTE Type 6B flanged and studded
connections do not make up face-to-face.
Both Type R and Type RX ring gaskets can be
used in Type R ring grooves, but the stand-off
between mating flange faces will be
significantly larger with RX gaskets.
• Type 16B hubbed connections with Type SR
ring grooves shall be assembled with Type RX
ring gaskets only.
• Type 6BX flanged and studded connections
with Type BX ring grooves shall be assembled
with Type BX ring gaskets only.
• Type 16BX hubbed connections with Type
BX ring grooves shall be assembled with Type
bX ring gaskets only."
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301 Wehner,
Eric
10.5.2 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "are used with…" is informative, not normative as
worded, i.e., conveys no requirements. (2) The
statement "Types R and RX gaskets are
interchangeable in Type R ring grooves," is not
always accurate for use in manifolds with multiple
parallel runs, since the flange stand-off is different.
Replace all of 10.5.2 with the following:
"API Type R, RX, and BX ring-joint gaskets
shall be used in API flanged, studded and
hubbed connections.
• Type 6B flanged and studded connections
with Type R ring grooves shall be assembled
with either Type R or Type RX ring gaskets
NOTE Type 6B flanged and studded
connections do not make up face-to-face.
Both Type R and Type RX ring gaskets can be
used in Type R ring grooves, but the stand-off
between mating flange faces will be larger with
RX gaskets.
• Type 16B hubbed connections with Type SR
ring grooves shall be assembled with Type RX
ring gaskets only.
• Type 6BX flanged and studded connections
with Type BX ring grooves shall be assembled
with Type BX ring gaskets only.
• Type 16BX hubbed connections with Type
BX ring grooves shall be assembled with Type
bX ring gaskets only."
Accept change with modification.
302 Grebing,
Kent
10.6 1st paragraph Editorial "The requirements for studs and nuts are found in
API 6A" is not clearly normative ad worded.
Replace all of 10.6 with: "Studs and nuts used
in API 6B and 6BX flanged and studded end
connnections shall comply with.the
requirements for studs and nuts in API 6A."
Duplicate EW comment 303
303 Wehner,
Eric
10.6 1st paragraph Editorial "The requirements for studs and nuts are found in
API 6A" is not clearly normative as worded.
Replace all of 10.6 with: "Studs and nuts used
in API 6B and 6BX flanged and studded end
connnections shall comply with.the
requirements for studs and nuts in API 6A."
Accept Change
304 Grebing,
Kent
10.7.3 1st sentence Editorial Variable orifice types are incompletely described. Revise first sentence to read: "Adjustable
drilling chokes have an externally-controlled
variable-area orifice(s) such as a rotary disc,
needle and seat, plug and cage, or external
sleeve and cage.
Duplicate EW comment 306
305 Grebing,
Kent
10.7.3 Last two
sentences
Technical Indicating mechanism should indicate equivalent
orifice size, not area, to be consistent with revision to
10.7.6 and API 6A.
Revise last two sentences to read: "Manually
adjustable drilling chokes shall be equipped
with a visible indicating mechanism, showing
percent open or closed and equivalent orifice
diameter. Remotely adjustable drilling chokes
shall be equipped with a remote indicating
means for equivalent orifice diameter."
Duplicate EW comment 307
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306 Wehner,
Eric
10.7.3 1st sentence Editorial Variable orifice types are incompletely described. Revise first sentence to read: "Adjustable
drilling chokes have an externally-controlled
variable-area orifice(s) such as a rotary disc,
needle and seat, plug and cage, or external
sleeve and cage.
Eric will submit by end of week.
307 Wehner,
Eric
10.7.3 Last two
sentences
Technical Indicating mechanism should indicate equivalent
orifice size, not area, to be consistent with revision to
10.7.6 and API 6A.
Revise last two sentences to read: "Manually
adjustable drilling chokes shall be equipped
with a visible indicating mechanism, showing
percent open or closed. Remotely adjustable
drilling chokes shall be equipped with a remote
indicating means for equivalent orifice
diameter."
Accept edited change
308 Grebing,
Kent
10.7.5 1st paragraph Technical Requirement for pressure venting incorrectly
assumes that all adjustable chokes have bonnets,
not threaded caps, and that all positive chokes have
threaded caps, not bonnets.
Replace 10.7.5 with: "Adjustable and positive
drilling chokes shall be designed to vent
trapped pressure prior to disengaging the
retention means of the body-to-bonnet or body-
to-cap connection."
Duplicate EW comment 309
309 Wehner,
Eric
10.7.5 1st paragraph Technical Requirement for pressure venting incorrectly
assumes that all adjustable chokes have bonnets,
not threaded caps, and that all positive chokes have
threaded caps, not bonnets.
Replace 10.7.5 with: "Adjustable and positive
drilling chokes shall be designed to vent
trapped pressure prior to disengaging the
retention means of the body-to-bonnet or body-
to-cap connection."
Accept Change 4/15
310 McCaskill,
John
10.7.6 Editorial Orifice area is not used by any manufacturer, nor is it
understood by rig personnel. An equivalent orifice
measurement should be used, so that all types of
chokes can be covered.
10.7.6 Size Designation
The nominal size designation of the drilling
choke shall be the inlet connection size, in in.,
followed by the maximum orifice area size, in
square in., where orifice size is:
a) for a positive drilling choke, the flow bore
diameter of the bean, in inches or in sixty-
fourths (1/64’s) of an inch.
b) For an adjustable drilling choke with a
single circular orifice, the flow bore diameter of
the seat, in inches.
c) For an adjustable drilling choke with
multiple and/or non-circular orifice(s), the
equivalent diameter of a circle with the same
total area, in inches.
Accept change 4/15
311 Grebing,
Kent
10.7.6 1st paragraph Technical The size is not necessarily an actual orifice diameter.
In most cases, it is the diameter of a theoretical
circular orifice with the same area as the total actual
orifice area of the choke trim.
Revise 10.7.6 to read: "The nominal size
designation of the drilling choke shall be the
inlet connection size in inches, followed by the
maximum orifice diameter, in inches, that is
equivalent in area to the total maximum orifice
area of the choke trim."
Duplicate EW comment 312
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312 Wehner,
Eric
10.7.6 1st paragraph Technical The size is not necessarily an actual orifice diameter.
In most cases, it is the diameter of a theoretical
circular orifice with the same area as the total actual
orifice area of the choke trim.
Revise 10.7.6 to read: "The nominal size
designation of the drilling choke shall be the
inlet connection size in inches, followed by the
maximum orifice diameter, in inches, that is
equivalent in area to the total maximum orifice
area of the choke trim."
Accept Change
313 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.8.3.1 Pressure
Rating
Technical Now that we are separateing hydraulic and electric
actuators it seems we're talking about torque not
pressure. If so this needs to be reworded
10.8.3.1 Operating Force
Actuator force applied to the operator must be
sufficient to overcome maximum rated
pressure of the choke
Non-persuasive
314 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.8.3.1 Pressure
Rating
Technical Actuator components exposed to well fluid or well
pressure shall be etc.
1. Electric actuators will not have exposure.
2. I believe the intent is "well bore" fluid meaning fluid
which has been exposed to open hole, i.e. formation
Actuator components which may be exposed
to well bore fluids shall be designed in
accordance with.
Non-persuasive
315 Grebing,
Kent
10.8.3.1 2nd paragraph Technical "Actuator components exposed to well fluid or well
pressure shall be designed in accordance with 4.3."
Since 16C hydraulic actuators do not include
retained fluid powered actuators, any components
exposed to well fluids are probably correctly
considered choke components. All requirements
including material, welding, and quality apply, not just
design.
Add to 2nd paragraph: "If the actuator includes
associated parts of the choke (bonnet, stem,
seals), these parts shall meet all requirements
applicable to the corresponding choke parts."
Duplicate EW comment 316
316 Wehner,
Eric
10.8.3.1 2nd paragraph Technical "Actuator components exposed to well fluid or well
pressure shall be designed in accordance with 4.3."
Since 16C hydraulic actuators do not include
retained fluid powered actuators, any components
exposed to well fluids are probably correctly
considered choke components. All requirements
including material, welding, and quality apply, not just
design.
Add to 2nd paragraph: "If the actuator includes
associated parts of the choke (bonnet, stem,
seals), these parts shall meet all requirements
applicable to the corresponding choke parts."
Non-persuasive
317 Grebing,
Kent
10.8.3.4 1st paragraph Technical The means to prevent choke internal fluid/pressure
from entering the actuator is usually part of the choke
design, not the actuator design.
Revise 10.8.3.4 to read: "Remote actuated
chokes shall be designed to prevent pressure
buildup or fluid contamination within the
actuator housing or cylinder due to leakage
from the choke."
Duplicate EW comment 318
318 Wehner,
Eric
10.8.3.4 1st paragraph Technical The means to prevent choke internal fluid/pressure
from entering the actuator is usually part of the choke
design, not the actuator design.
Revise 10.8.3.4 to read: "Remote actuated
chokes shall be designed to prevent pressure
buildup or fluid contamination within the
actuator housing or cylinder due to leakage
from the choke."
Non-persuasive
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319 Grebing,
Kent
10.9 complete
clause 10.9
Editorial Clause 10.9 is titled "Rigid choke and kill lines," but
10.9.2 & 10.9.3 provide requirements only for "rigid
piping." To be consistent with articulated and flexiblle
lines, rigid lines should include connectors. If 16C
rigid lines do not include end connnectors, then the
term should be deleted and "rigid piping" used
throughout. There is a need to address rigid piping
with union end connectors, but 16C does not fill that
need as written.
(1) Add new subclause 10.9.4 End connectors:
"End connectors shall meet the requirements
of 10.2 or 10.3. Pipe threads are not
acceptable end connections.' (2) Add new
subclause 10.9.5 marking: "Rigid choke and
kill lines shall be marked in accordance with
Clause 8."
Duplicate EW comment 320
320 Wehner,
Eric
10.9 complete
clause 10.9
Editorial Clause 10.9 is titled "Rigid choke and kill lines," but
10.9.2 & 10.9.3 provide requirements only for "rigid
piping." To be consistent with articulated and flexiblle
lines, rigid lines should include connectors. If 16C
rigid lines do not include end connnectors, then the
term should be deleted and "rigid piping" used
throughout. There is a need to address rigid piping
with union end connectors, but 16C does not fill that
need as written.
(1) Add new subclause 10.9.4 End connectors:
"End connectors shall meet the requirements
of 10.2 or 10.3. Pipe threads are not
acceptable end connections.' (2) Add new
subclause 10.9.5 marking: "Rigid choke and
kill lines shall be marked in accordance with
Clause 8."
Bob and Ken will address end of week.
321 Grebing,
Kent
10.9.1 Editorial "design thickness" is not a commonly used term, and
is unclear.
Replace "The design thickness for a rated
working pressure…." with 'The pipe wall
thickness for a rated working pressure…'
Duplicate EW comment 322
322 Wehner,
Eric
10.9.1 Editorial "design thickness" is not a commonly used term, and
is unclear.
Replace "The design thickness for a rated
working pressure…." with 'The pipe wall
thickness for a rated working pressure…'
Accept Change
323 Chance,
Maynard
10.9.1 Editorial Is: "ASME 31.3 Chapter 9…"
typo, missing a 'B'
"...ASME B31.3 Chapter 9…" Accept Change
324 Young,
Kenneth
10.9.1 Editorial Missing word "or" For rated working pressures above 10,000 psi,
ASME 31.3 Chapter 9 or ASME BPVC ….;
Accept Change
325 Grebing,
Kent
10.9.3 Editorial 10.9.3 refers to quality requirements for rigid piping,
but not to hydrostatic test requirements for rigid
choke and kill lines in Table 24 and 7.5.11. Rigid
piping can't be hydrostatically tested safely without
end connectors.
Add second sentence to 10.9.3: "Rigid choke
and kill lines shall meet quallity requirements
of 7.5 for assembled equipment, including
hydrostatic testing in accordance with Table
24."
Duplicate EW comment 325
326 Wehner,
Eric
10.9.3 Editorial 10.9.3 refers to quality requirements for rigid piping,
but not to hydrostatic test requirements for rigid
choke and kill lines in Table 24 and 7.5.11. Rigid
piping can't be hydrostatically tested safely without
end connectors.
Add second sentence to 10.9.3: "Rigid choke
and kill lines shall meet quallity requirements
of 7.5 for assembled equipment, including
hydrostatic testing in accordance with Table
24."
Accept Change
327 Baniak,
Edmund
10.10.1 Editorial Use of the word "are" implies a requirement (or could
be read that way). Recommend replacing that word
with "may be"
Change to:
Flexible choke and kill lines may be
employeed...
and
The may be employed also...
Accept Change
328 Tidrick,
Keith
10.10.10 Table 29 Editorial For "FSL0" table reads in part: "...requirements in
10.10, A.12.1, A.12.3, and A.12.3"
For "FSL0" table should read in replacement:
"...requirements in 10.10, A.12.1, A.12.2 and
A.12.3"
Accept Change
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329 Twiddy,
Daniel
10.10.10 Table 29 Editorial Incorrect as written and inconsistent with text in
10.10.10
Replace definition with: “Includes all design,
material and design validation test
requirements in 10.10 and A.12.1 through
A.12.3”
Accept Change
330 Twiddy,
Daniel
10.10.10 Editorial Remove quotation marks after last word in paragraph
- typo
Remove quotation marks after last word in
paragraph
Accept Change
331 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.10.10 Table 29 Editorial Since 10.10 and A.12.1 through A.12.3 are in
separate documents it should be as originally stated.
If the word through is deemed offensive it should be
written correctly
Material as used is confusing
FSL 0 Includes all design parameters,
material specifications and design validation
test requirements presented in 10.10 and
A.12.1, A12.2 and A.12.3
Accept Change
332 Nagy, Tibor 10.10.10 Table 29 Editorial A 12.3 is referred twice Change to A 12.1, A 12.2 and A 12.3 Accept Change
333 Nagy, Tibor 10.10.3 Table 28 Technical Usual 5 000 psi end connectors are not designed to
3:1 safety factor, thus safety factor may be reduced
to 2.25, just like for the higher pressure lines
Change 15 000 psi (103,5 Mpa) to 11 250 psi
(77.6 Mpa)
Accept Change
334 Frazelle,
Andy
10.11.1 all Technical The 3rd sentence of this paragraph discusses
required volume of the system, which is a capacity.
Section 10.11.2 is titled 'Capacity'.
Move the text discussing volume to 10.11.2 Accept Change
335 Frazelle,
Andy
10.11.2 all Technical This sentence discusses closing times which is a
design requirement.
Move this text to section 10.11.1 which is titled
'Design Criteria'
Accept Change
336 Stewart,
Chris
10.11.4 No. 1 Technical Temperatrue range is too small for the application of
this equipment
Change temperature range to -20F to 180F. Non-persuasive
337 Nagy, Tibor 10.11.4 Paragraph 1 Editorial References to 4.5.2 and 4.5.3 are not correct Change reference to 4.1.2 and 4.1.3 Accept Change
338 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.12.1 Articulation Technical An Articulated assembly, as seen when stored,
consists of 4 components but these are separate.
Each component will be monogramed and should
have serial number and indication of MWP.
Articulated Choke & Kill Line components
consist of
a.) Straight pup joints with male and female
union.
B.) Swivel joint with two long radius El's and
male and female wing union
Refer to articulated TG
339 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.12.1 Flowline
composition
Technical "The flow line shall consist of no less than seven
swivel joints". What is the justification for this?
Delete the requirement. Refer to articulated TG
340 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.12.1 Configuration Technical "For complete freedom of movement the
configuration of the flowline shall follow the
manufactureer's written specification"
1. Assembley of flowline components is outside the
juridiction of this specification.
Configuration will be dependent on spatial and
dynamic parameters on a case by case basis.
Delete the requirement. Refer to articulated TG
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341 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.12.1 Articulated
Assembly
Editorial This falls under API S 53. "For Articulated line
assemblies, consult with the manufacture's written
specifications to determine the degree of relative mo
vement allowable between end points.
This is operational. If we must address it, just
refer to API 53, 8.3.1.a.3 or 10.2.1.h.3
Refer to articulated TG
342 Frazelle,
Andy
10.12.1 all Technical Do not see the value in this requirement. Each swivel
is potential failure point. We are requiring at least 7.
Remove this from the document Refer to articulated TG
343 Frazelle,
Andy
10.12.1 Figure 10 Editorial Text states minimum of seven swivel elements are
required, drawing shows six swivel elements
Drawing and text should match to avoid
confusion.
Refer to articulated TG
344 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.12.2 Marking Technical "Articulated lines conformint to this specification shall
be marked with the information at the locations
detailed in Table 25."
1. Table 25 describes the hydrostaic test pressure for
a given pressure rating. It dos not describe locations
or markings.
2. Marking should include, pressure rting, union
identification and Monogram.
Articulated joints are to be marked with
Pressure Rating and Unior type or part number
Refer to articulated TG
345 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.13.5 Marking Technical Table 25 only refers to Hydrostatic Test Pressure not
marking.
Buffer Chamber is to marked with identifying
part number, serial number and maximum
working pressure. It is recommended a
Manufacturer's data plate be provided with full
description inclusive of outle type/sizing, job
number and date of manufacture.
Should be Table 26. Add note C in table
requiring S/N for buffer chambers
346 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.14 C&K Manifold
Assy
Technical 1. This specification is for "Equipment"
2. The infomatoin in this section is redundant and
confusing. E.g. What specification covers actuators?
I can only ifnd reference to Chokes PSL 1,2,3,3G & 4
in the Composite list and it applies to facilities without
16C.
3. The only value this section may have that is not
elsewher in this specification is data book
requirements for C&K Manifold Assemblys
Either delete this section in its entirity or insert,
"Manifolds manufactuired in accordance with
this Specification shall comply with the
following
10.14.1 A Manufactures Data Plate is to be
attached providing, Manufactures name, API
Monogram, pressure ratings, service , date of
manufacture, Model number, job number and
Serial Number.
Data Book is to contain individual sections for
each component as per reqirements of 7.6 of
this specification
Non-persuasive
347 Baniak,
Edmund
10.14.1 General Inserted a definiton from API 53. It is fine to steal
definitions, but they need to be kept with other
definitions. This should be in the definition section.
Remove second sentence of 10.14.1 and turn
into a definition in Section 3.
Accept Change
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348 Grebing,
Kent
10.14.1 1st paragraph Editorial "Choke lines" and "kill lines" as shown and defined in
53 are different from "choke and kill lines" in 16C.
Revise last sentence to read: "Requirements
of this section for choke and kill manifolds can
also be applied to assemblies identified in API
53 as choke lines, choke manifolds, kill lines,
and kill manifolds."
Duplicate EW comment 349
349 Wehner,
Eric
10.14.1 1st paragraph Editorial "Choke lines" and "kill lines" as shown and defined in
53 are different from "choke and kill lines" in 16C.
Revise last sentence to read: "Requirements
of this section for choke and kill manifolds can
also be applied to assemblies identified in API
53 as choke lines, choke manifolds, kill lines,
and kill manifolds."
Resolved with #347
350 Baniak,
Edmund
10.14.2 Technical I question the value (need) for the last sentence and
a)-d). You pretty much cover everything possible
configuration source, so this becomes a requirement
of the obvious.
Delete last sentence, "Manifold
configuration...a), b), c) d)."
Non-persuasive
351 Frazelle,
Andy
10.14.3 1st para Technical The second sentence requires a full bore valve and
the also prohibits the use of reduced-opening valves.
These are redundant
Delete the redundancy Accept Change
352 Frazelle,
Andy
10.14.3 1st para Technical The text requires that actuated valves and chokes be
fail in place design. What is fail in place for a choke;
open or closed? Seems this could be situationally
dependent.
Remove requirement that chokes be fail in
place
non-persuasive
353 Chance,
Maynard
10.14.4 Note Editorial Is: "'Downstream' is assumed to be away…"
leave out the assumption
:"'Downstream' is away…" Accept Change
354 Stewart,
Chris
10.14.4 Notes Editorial Notes should be numbered NOTE 1, NOTE 2 Resolved with #355
355 Stewart,
Chris
10.14.4 Last note Technical This note is essentially a requirement and should be
listed in the body of the section not in a note.
Accept Change, added 10.14.4.3
356 Frazelle,
Andy
10.14.4 first line and
third line
requirements
Technical This language does not match the current diagrams
in Annex C for 2K and 5K BOP systems - no down
stream valves show behind chokws
Change Annec C Choke BOP diagrams to
reflect current API Std 53 diagrams
Eric W will advise drawings to use
357 Frazelle,
Andy
10.15 Technical This should also adrress articulated choke and kill
lines if supplied by OEM choke manufacturer
Add to 10.12 or 10.15 articulated choke and
kill line equipment manual containing -
equuipment specifications, operation and
installation, seal information, maintenece and
testing, diassembly and assymbly information,
part information, storadge information.
Refer to Articulated Line TG for review
358 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.15 Operating
Manual
Editorial Not descriptive. The manual also requires
maintenance information
10.15 Operating and maintenance Manual Accept change
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359 Cherbonnie
r, David
10.15.1 equipment list Editorial 1. The manual should be provided not made availble
2. By being too definitve we run the risk of quipment
not being covered.
Equipment manufactured in accordance with
this Specification is to be provided with
documentatin describing operational
requirements, maintenance instruction, and
traceablity documentation as required by
section 7.6.
Accept change
360 Baniak,
Edmund
10.15.2 Editorial 10.15.2 b) and c) does not say anything of value.
The requirement is not specific enough.
You need to say what physical data are
required and what specific seal information is
needed.
Defined b) and leaving c) alone.
361 Grebing,
Kent
10.15.2 bullets (a) - (g) General The list of content for manuals should not facilitate
interpretation that equipment manufacturers are
required to supply instructional information for which
they cannot accept responsibility, including:
- well control procedures,
- proprietary seal data,
- testing prescribed by regulation and/or other
API/industry publications,
- disassembly or asssembly information for repairs
the manufacturer considers not safe or appropriate
for users or third parties to perform.
Revise 10.15.2 to read: "The operating manual
shall contain the following information
(excluding proprietary data and procedures,
and operational requirements dictated by
regulation or other industry programs and
publications):
a) instructions for typical installation and
normal operation;
b) physical data (outside dimensions, weight,
center of gravity);
c) ordering information for recommended
spare parts and seals;
d) maintenance and testing information;
e) disassembly/assembly instructions for user-
serviceable repairs;
f) recommended preparation for long-term
storage."
Duplicate EW comment 362
362 Wehner,
Eric
10.15.2 bullets (a) - (g) General The list of content for manuals should avoid implying
that equipment manufacturers are required to supply
instructional information for which they cannot accept
responsibility, including:
- well control procedures,
- proprietary seal data,
- testing prescribed by regulation and/or other
API/industry publications,
- disassembly or asssembly information for repairs
the manufacturer considers not safe or appropriate
for users or third parties to perform.
Revise 10.15.2 to read: "The operating manual
shall contain the following information :
a) instructions for typical installation and
normal operation;
b) physical data (outside dimensions, weight,
center of gravity);
c) ordering information for recommended
spare parts and seals;
d) maintenance and testing information;
e) disassembly/assembly instructions for user-
serviceable repairs;
f) recommended preparation for long-term
storage."
Accept Change with modification
363 Frazelle,
Andy
Annex A all General As per API guidance, Annex A should be for
monogramming requirements
Move Annex H to Annex A Accept Change
364 Frazelle,
Andy
Annex A Various Editorial Room Temperature was removed from Table 1;
should it still be used here?
Consider need to change Non-persuasive
365 Mills,
Darren
Annex A Paragraph General Consider adding a documentation section similar to
API 6A Annex F.1.15
Accept Change 4/15
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366 Baniak,
Edmund
A.2.2 Technical This may be a philosophical issue, but A.2.2 seems
to make this entire section normative. You claim you
do not need to follow the requirements as long as
you meet the intended outcome. So it is normative.
Either change Annex A to "informative" or
delete A.2.2
Accept Change 4/15. in addition, altered
4.5.1. and removed 4.5.2
367 Larson, Eric A.5.1 1 Editorial reference to section 1.2.1 has been deleted. remove reference to 1.2.1, replace with
Section 1.
Accept Change 4/15
368 Mills,
Darren
A.5.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial ... equipment listed in 1.2.1 to verify... ... equipment listed in Section 1 to verify... Resolved #367
369 Frazelle,
Andy
A.5.5 Editorial Text states - the manufacturers published
recommended maintenance proceduce may be used
on equipment
suggest replace 'may' with 'shall' non-persuasive
370 Mills,
Darren
A.7.2.2.3.5 Paragraph 1 Editorial ...(see Table 1, 2 and 3)... ...(see Table 2, 3 and 4)... Accept Change
371 Nagy, Tibor A.7.2.2.3.5 Editorial The referred Table 1 is not relevant for this section. Change the referred section to the following:
see Tables 2, 3 and 4.
Resolved #370
372 Mills,
Darren
A.7.2.2.4 Paragraph 1 Editorial The temperature range verified by... The temperature range validated by... Accept Change 4/15
373 Mills,
Darren
A.7.4.2 Paragraph Technical When Gas testing is conducted the leakage
acceptance criteria should be defined.
Reference API 6A Table F.1 Accepted with modifications.
374 Nagy, Tibor A.9.3 Table A.1 Editorial The table A.1 is in the section A.9.3. Table A.1 should be in the section A.9.4.2. Accepted
375 Mills,
Darren
A.9.4.3.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial ...(see 4.5.2) ...(see 4.1.2) Accepted; now 4.1.1.
376 Mills,
Darren
A.9.4.3.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial ...(see 4.5.2) ...(see 4.1.2) Accepted; now 4.1.1.
377 Frazelle,
Andy
A.9.4.3.3 1st Technical For low pressure tests, API 53 has gone to 250-250
F
Align with API 53 for standardization Not persuasive; design validation testing
does not necessarily correspond with
field testing.
378 Frazelle,
Andy
A.9.4.3.7 1st Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Not persuasive; stabilization was
defined in 7.5.4.2
379 Grebing,
Kent
A.9.4.3.7 1st paragraph Technical Design validation is intended to represent the
service/cycle life after which the product may require
repair. A blanket acceptance criterion of zero
leakage is not consistent with that purpose and is not
reasonable for dynamic seals exposed to wear and
effects of retained fluids and temperature cycles.
Revise A.9.4.3.7 to include non-zero dynamic
seal acceptance, similar to API 6A Table F.1:
- static well bore fluid containing seals: no
leakage;
- dynamic well bore fluid containing seals: 60
cc/hr. gas, 20 cc/hr. liquid;
- static hydraulic fluid containing seals: no
leakage.
- dynamic hydraulic fluid containing seals: 20
cc/hr. liquid.
Duplicate EW comment 380
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380 Wehner,
Eric
A.9.4.3.7 1st paragraph Technical Design validation is intended to represent the
service/cycle life after which the product may require
repair. A blanket acceptance criterion of zero
leakage is not consistent with that purpose and is not
reasonable for dynamic seals exposed to wear and
effects of retained fluids and temperature cycles.
Revise A.9.4.3.7 to include non-zero dynamic
seal acceptance, similar to API 6A Table F.1:
- static well bore fluid containing seals: no
leakage;
- dynamic well bore fluid containing seals: 60
cc/hr. gas, 20 cc/hr. liquid;
- static hydraulic fluid containing seals: no
leakage.
- dynamic hydraulic fluid containing seals: 20
cc/hr. liquid.
Non-persuasive
381 Nagy, Tibor A. 12.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial There is a mistake in the following sentece: "In order
to qualify for approval, the minimum tests required
for design validation are A.12.2 through A.12.4."
Fire test (A.12.4) is not part of minimum
requirements.
Change A. 12.4 to A.12.3 Accepted
382 Nagy, Tibor A. 12.1 Paragraph 1 Technical In real life there are variations of a basic
construction, e.g. fire protection, external protection,
bend stiffener etc. can be added. It is necessary to
state, that such added elents do nor require new
prototype test.
Add to the end of the paragrapf 1: "Adding of
additional elements or changig the cover
outside of the reinforcement (e.g. fire
protection, external armoring) does not require
new validation testing."
Accepted
383 Frazelle,
Andy
A.10.2.1.1 Item #3) Technical The secondary hold period of 15 minutes does not
specify rated pressure as step #1
Add at the rated pressure Accepted with modifications.
384 Frazelle,
Andy
A.10.2.2 1st Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Not persuasive; stabilization was
defined in 7.5.4.2
385 Frazelle,
Andy
A.10.3.2 1st Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Not persuasive; stabilization was
defined in 7.5.4.2
386 Mills,
Darren
A.10.4 Paragraph 6 Technical Additonally, there shall be no visible leakage during
the dynamic testing.
Additonally, there shall be no visible leakage
during the dynamic testing hold period.
Accepted
387 Frazelle,
Andy
A.11.8.3.2 item b) Editorial The and after the requirement seems out of place as
there is no c)
Remove the 'and' Accepted
388 Tidrick,
Keith
A.12.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial Recommend editing this General section to add
statement regarding applicability of testing for design
validation only, not for production lots. Then remove
similar statements in other subclauses of Section 12
as noted in subsequent comments as the
applicibality clarification is stated in clause A.12.4.
but not in clauses A.12.2, A.12.3 and A.12.5.
Propose adding the following statement to the
end of the first paragraph of Section 12.1: "The
stated flexible line design validation tests are
for design validation only and are not required
to be performed on production lots of flexible
lines."
Not persuasive; this is addressed in A.2.
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389 Nagy, Tibor A.12.2.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial The reference 4.5.2 is not correct in the 3rd
sentence.
Please change in the 3rd sentence from
reference 4.5.2 to reference 4.1.2
Accepted
390 Nagy, Tibor A.12.2.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial Please use "psi" instead of "psig" because the usual
unit in this document is "psi".
Change psig to psi Accepted
391 Nagy, Tibor A.12.2.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial There is a typo in (10.35MPa)/min. Change to (10.35 MPa/min). Accepted
392 Love,
Wayne
A.12.3 Editorial The exposure test required for flexible choke and kill
lines is biased against elastomer lined hoses.
Copper State Rubber has been manufacturing
flexible choke and kill hoses for over 30 years with a
successful track record. Other rubber components of
the BOP do not have to meet this stringent test that
is not representative of actual service conditions.
We recommend to make the long term
exposure test an optional FSL requirement or
remove the decompression requirements with
only 1 cycle of testing.
Not persuasive; the consensus of the
task gtoup is that the test should remain
as is.
393 Cherbonnie
r, David
A.12.3.1.3 Exposure Test
Requi
Technical 1. If the orignial intent was to perform expoosure
tests per lot rather than individual lengths, this
wording isn't applicable.
2. The proposed wording implies a test of one size
and rating qualifies all other sizes and ratings as long
as the design (criteria?) and construction (braided
and sleeve) is eqivilent
One length of each lot or production run must
be tested. Any flexible length made up with
fittings is to be proof tested and tagged with
name of facility, date and test data.
Remove second paragraph accidentally
retained.
394 Tidrick,
Keith
A.12.3.1.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial This statement is redundant to Section A.12.1
paragraph 1 sentence 1.
Delete current verbiage in Section A.12.3.1.3. Accepted
395 Twiddy,
Daniel
A.12.3.1.3 Technical Verification testing qualifies the size and pressure
rating of the flexible tested, together with smaller
sizes and equal or lower pressure ratings and
temperature. Using the plus or minus variation of the
proposed text: 1) is inconsistent with other flexible
verification tests (all others qualify size tested plus
equal or smaller size and pressure) in the standard,
2) is not a representative test – allowing qualification
of the next ID size up does not take into account the
larger surface area and therefore increased diffusion
that will occur during verification testing
Use orgininal text: "Successful completion of
validation testing as specified in A.12.3
qualifies the size and pressure rating of the
flexible tested, together with smaller sizes and
equal or lower pressure ratings and
temperature of equivalent design and
construction."
Accepted
396 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.1.3 Editorial This section is doubled, the old text was not deleted A.12.3.1.3 written in red in the PDF of draft 3
should stay, the old text should be deleted
Accepted
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397 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial In the 1st sentence one more parenthesis used than
expected. In this sentence the "-5%" need not to be
separated to two line.
The line shall be pressurized three separate
times to the rated working pressure (+0, -500
psi [3.45 MPa], or -5%, whichever is less) and
…
Accepted
398 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial In the 5th sentence use "min" instead of "minute". In
this sentence correct the last pressure value.
Change "minute" to "min". Correct 69 MPa to
6.9 MPa.
Accepted
399 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial In the 1st sentence, 3.4 Mpa is used instead of 3.45
MPa (in series 1).
Change 3.4 MPa to 3.45 MPa (series 1). Accepted
400 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial ±5.6°C is not between parentheses. Change it to [±5.6°C]. Accepted
401 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.3 Paragraph 2 Editorial Duration of test pressure is 30 m instead of 30 min. Change in 2nd sentence "30 m" to "30 min" Accepted
402 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.3 Pragraph 1 General The style of using parentheses is different in
sectionsA.12.3.2 and A.12.3.3
Change to uniform style, use [] in both sections
where applicable, inside of () parentheses
Not persuasive; this style is acceptable.
403 Tidrick,
Keith
A.12.4.1.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial By adding a general design validation test
applicability statement to Section A.12.1, the
statement in this section becomes redundant.
Delete subclause statement in A.12.4.1.1
which currently reads: "The stated flexible line
fire tests are not required to be performed on
production lots of flexible lines."
Accepted; stated in A.2.
404 Tidrick,
Keith
A.12.4.1.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial This statement is redundant to Section A.12.1
paragraph 1 sentence 1.
Delete current verbiage in Section A.12.4.1.2. Accepted
405 Nagy, Tibor A.12.4.2.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial The section A.12.4.2.5 is not the end of the fire test. Change the end of the first sentence to:
A.12.4.2.2 through A.12.4.2.6.
Accepted
406 Nagy, Tibor A.12.4.2.2 Technical Only the temperature at the end of the test is defined,
during the 30 min test it is undefinied
Change the 2nd sentence to the following: The
temperature indicated by the thermocouples
during the 30 min test and at the end of the
time period shall be equal or higher than
1300F (704°C)
Accepted with modifications.
407 Grebing,
Kent
A.12.4.2.3 1st sentence Editorial "Thermocouples are to be positioned…" is not
normative language.
Revise to read: "Thermocouples shall be
positioned…"
Duplicate EW comment 408
408 Wehner,
Eric
A.12.4.2.3 1st sentence Editorial "Thermocouples are to be positioned…" is not
normative language.
Revise to read: "Thermocouples shall be
positioned…"
Accepted
409 Tidrick,
Keith
A.12.5.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial This statement is redundant to Section A.12.1
paragraph 1 sentence 1.
Delete current verbiage in Section A.12.5.2. Accepted
410 Cherbonnie
r, David
A.12.5.3 recording Technical Reults of this test must be recorded not should Replace should with shall Accept Change
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411 Cherbonnie
r, David
A.12.5.4 test simulation Technical "to simulate as closely as possible service
conditions, line heating should be from the inside."
1. Is this test to determine the maximum wellbore
fluid temperature or is it
2. to determine survivability in the event of
conflagaration in the moon pool.
If the test is to determine survivablity in fire the
heat must be a;;lied to the outside.
Non-persuasive
412 Cherbonnie
r, David
A.12.6.2 Dynamic Test Technical 1. If the swivel assemblys are as illustrated in Figure
10 seven swivel elements is not possible.
2. Since this is a component test it only needs to be
conducted on one swivel
3. The dynamnic and pressure test should require
some minimum value and be a minimum of 180
degrees after which it must pass a proof test
Dynamnic range tests shall be conducted at
rated working pressure and complete a
minimum of 629 cycles of at least 180 degrees
rotatoin. Upon compleation the swivel joint will
be hydrostatically tested to 150% of rated
working pressure.
Refer to articulated TG Meeting
413 Frazelle,
Andy
Annex C First paragraph Technical It says these configurations are taken fromm API 53 -
Figures C1-C3 do not conform with API STD 53
The wording should change to API STD 53
and reflect the correct drawings listed in API
STD 53 including the valves down strewam of
the chokes. 6.2.2.10 Choke manifold
configurations shall allow for rerouting of flow
(in the event of eroded, plugged or
malfunctioning parts) through a different
choke, without interrupting flow control. the
vlaves down stream of the choke provide total
isolation for repairs or washed out or
danmaged choke bodies.
Accepted; will include Figures 1 through
6 and Figure 9 from API 53.
414 Frazelle,
Andy
Annex G Technical This section only deals with hydraulic chokes, Need to add langauge that mirors hydraulic
choke requirements for manual chokes at the
station where that choke is operated - e.g
guage requirements, piston isolator transmitter
requirements. These requirements are
stipulated in API Std 53 - 6.2.2.18, 6.2.2.19,
amd 6.2.2.20 and subsea7.2.2.17,7.2.2.18 abd
7.2.2.19
Noted; this issue will be deferred to the
next edition.
415 Frazelle,
Andy
Annex G Technical There is no requirement placed on the use of back
up control consoles. Rather than have back up
power a back up control console is provided,
however, this is with limited instrumentation
Committee to determine the level of
instrumentation needed to consider this
console a qualified back up. For example, is
just the ability to close the choke adequate to
qualify this as in conformance or must the
back up console have the full capability of the
primary.
Noted; this issue will be deferred to the
next edition.
416 Frazelle,
Andy
Annexes Editorial All normative annexes should come before
informative, except for monogramming, as stipulated
by API
Reorganize Annexes Not persuasive; the order of the
annexes is determined by the order they
are referenced in the body of the
document.
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417 McCaskill,
John
G.2.1 e) Editorial Rig air gauge is only needed for air-over-hydraulic
operating systems, not electric-over-hydraulic or
Electrically actuated.
A gauge on the control panel for rig air or gas
pressure available to power the hydraulic
pump. Required only for air or gas-over-
hydraulic actuation systems
Accepted
418 Frazelle,
Andy
G.2.1 g 1 Technical gauges of any type may be provided with full scale
pressure lower than choke system rated pressure…..'
suggest replace 'may' with 'shall'. Not persuasive.
419 Frazelle,
Andy
G.2.1 1st Technical The first sentence reads "The control system shall
provide the following." Need to replace period with a
semicolon;
Need to replace period with a semicolon; Not persuasive.
420 Frazelle,
Andy
G.2.1 1st Technical The first sentence reads "The control system shall
provide the following." The 16C must specify if this is
per control console! Rigs are in xistence that have 2
control consoles, neither of which meet the
requirements. For example one console would meet
requirements A - E and the other A, F and G. Though
the rig meets the letter of the requirement the intent
is missed. Clarify the each must have all items
Reword the first sentence to read "Every
control console shall provide the following;"
Noted; this issue will be deferred to the
next edition.
421 McCaskill,
John
G.2.2.12 Editorial If both what are not available simultaneously? …if both SPM and Total Strokes are not
available simultaneously.
Acceepted
422 Cherbonnie
r, David
G.2.3 Emergency
Operations
Technical There's no provision for electrical backup for
electrical actuators
Critical components reqireing electrical power
shall be provided with an alternate source of
power if the primary source fails.
Non-persuasive
423 Frazelle,
Andy
G.2.3 Addition Technical Require that if a back up control console and system
is for emergencies it is fully functional as per G.2.1
see addition in the comment box Noted; this issue will be deferred to the
next edition.
424 McCaskill,
John
G.2.3.2 Editorial As written, assumes only hydraulic operation A hydraulically controlled console control
system shall have…
Accepted with modifications.
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