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1/20/2014 API Ballot Summary Sheet Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3 Ballot ID: 3119 Roland Goodman Associate: 12/6/13 Closing Date: 10/23/13 Start Date: Ballot: Coordinator: Roland Goodman Proposal: Reballot for approval of the second edition of API 16C, Choke and Kill Systems. VotingCategory Did Not Vote Abstain Negative Affirmative Comments Company Voter Vote Results Interest Category Dokaan, LLC Henry Carroll X No Manufacturer Lloyd's Register Energy Americas, Inc. Maynard Chance X Yes Contractor Tube Supply, Inc. Al Coffey X No Manufacturer Transocean Robert Fogal X Yes Operator-User On-line Resources John Fowler X Yes Consultant BP America Production Company Andy Frazelle X Yes Operator-User Chevron Frank Gallander X Yes Operator-User Energy Alloys Al Gavenas X No Manufacturer Ensign Energy Services, Inc. Sukhi Grewal X No Operator-User Woodco USA Chris Heitman X No Manufacturer Pacific Drilling Services, Inc. Tony Hogg X No Operator-User Control Flow, Inc. Tom Lambert X No Manufacturer GE Oil & Gas - VetcoGray Eric Larson X Yes Manufacturer Copper State Rubber, Inc Wayne Love X Yes Manufacturer EXPRO Americas, LLC John McCaskill X Yes Manufacturer Dril-Quip Darren Mills X Yes Manufacturer Z & N Technical Development Ltd. Tibor Nagy X Yes Manufacturer David O'Donnell X Yes Consultant ABS Americas Harish Patel X No Class Society The Timken Company Troy Powell X Yes Manufacturer DU-TEX, Inc. Michael Ray X No Manufacturer FMC Steve Schwegman X No Manufacturer ENSCO Chris Stewart X Yes Operator-User Parker Hannifin Corporation Keith Tidrick X Yes Manufacturer Technip USA Daniel Twiddy X Yes Contractor NOV Eric Wehner X Yes Manufacturer Cameron Melvyn Whitby X Yes Manufacturer Stress Engineering Services, Inc. Kenneth Young X Yes Contractor 1

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API Ballot Summary Sheet

Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3 Ballot ID: 3119

Roland GoodmanAssociate:12/6/13Closing Date:10/23/13Start Date:

Ballot:

Coordinator: Roland Goodman

Proposal: Reballot for approval of the second edition of API 16C, Choke and Kill Systems.

VotingCategory

Did Not VoteAbstainNegativeAffirmativeCommentsCompanyVoter

Vote Results

Interest Category

Dokaan, LLCHenry Carroll XNoManufacturerLloyd's Register Energy Americas, Inc.Maynard Chance XYesContractorTube Supply, Inc.Al Coffey XNoManufacturerTransoceanRobert Fogal XYesOperator-UserOn-line ResourcesJohn Fowler XYesConsultantBP America Production CompanyAndy Frazelle XYesOperator-UserChevronFrank Gallander XYesOperator-UserEnergy AlloysAl Gavenas XNoManufacturerEnsign Energy Services, Inc.Sukhi Grewal XNoOperator-UserWoodco USAChris Heitman XNoManufacturerPacific Drilling Services, Inc.Tony Hogg XNoOperator-UserControl Flow, Inc.Tom Lambert XNoManufacturerGE Oil & Gas - VetcoGrayEric Larson XYesManufacturerCopper State Rubber, IncWayne Love XYesManufacturerEXPRO Americas, LLCJohn McCaskill XYesManufacturerDril-QuipDarren Mills XYesManufacturerZ & N Technical Development Ltd.Tibor Nagy XYesManufacturer

David O'Donnell XYesConsultantABS AmericasHarish Patel XNoClass SocietyThe Timken CompanyTroy Powell XYesManufacturerDU-TEX, Inc.Michael Ray XNoManufacturerFMCSteve Schwegman XNoManufacturerENSCOChris Stewart XYesOperator-UserParker Hannifin CorporationKeith Tidrick XYesManufacturerTechnip USADaniel Twiddy XYesContractorNOVEric Wehner XYesManufacturerCameronMelvyn Whitby XYesManufacturerStress Engineering Services, Inc.Kenneth Young XYesContractor

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1/20/2014

API Ballot Summary Sheet

Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3 Ballot ID: 3119

Roland GoodmanAssociate:12/6/13Closing Date:10/23/13Start Date:

Ballot:

Coordinator: Roland Goodman

Proposal: Reballot for approval of the second edition of API 16C, Choke and Kill Systems.

VotingCategory

Balloting Totals: 5 2

Affirmative Negative Abstain Did Not Vote

21 0

Total Responses:

Total Ballots:

Response Rate ((Affirmative + Negative + Abstain) / Total Ballots):

Approval Rate (Affirmative / [Affirmative + Negative] ):

28

26

Consensus:

93%

81%

Must be > 50%

Must be >= 66.66%

YES

2

Ballot Comments and Resolution

Ballot: 3119 Report Date: 12/9/2013 Closing Date: 12/6/2013

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Number

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CommentComment Proposed Change Comment Resolution

1 Frazelle,

Andy

N/A N/A Technical Clarification required concerning minimum

instrumentation required for secondary control

panels

Include minimum instrumentation required for

secondary control panel.

No suggested wording provided

2 Frazelle,

Andy

Title Title Editorial By descoping this document this leaves a gap in the

design of the system

Keep the document title as C&K Systems Non-Persuasive

3 Gallander,

Frank

Title Title Technical Remove "equipment". Retain "Systems" for all references. Agree to reference as Equipment for

time being and address as System in

3rd edition.

4 Gallander,

Frank

Whole

Document

Whole

Document

Technical Obsolete information from previous edition. Update to include latest information from 6A,

suite of documents.

Includes references to 6A suite of

documents when addressing systems

5 Baniak,

Edmund

Throughout draft General Throughout the document, you misue the word

"comply" You comply with regulatory requirements or

the legal requirements. You conform to the

requirements of a standard, spec, RP, etc. See 5.2.4

for example.

Change applicable references throughout the

document from "comply with this

specification..." to "conform to the

requierments of this specification" or the like.

Accept Change

6 Grebing,

Kent

Throughout draft 26 occurrences General This is a general comment with an alternate

suggested change, in regard to four other comments

correcting use of "end outlet connections:" There is

very inconsistent usage in the draft of the combined

use of the terms "end connection" and "outlet

connnection." In all but two usages in 16C, "end

connection" alone is sufficient and unambiguous.

The exceptions are 10.7.9 and 10.14.2, where "outlet

connection" is used to differentiate one end

connection from the another (inlet connection) for

drilling chokes and for buffer chambers.

Use "end connection" in place of "end and

outlet connection," "end or outlet connection,"

"end outlet connection," "end connection and

outlet connection," "end connection or outlet

connection," and "outlet connection,"

everywhere in the standard except in 10.7.9.

Duplicate EW comment 7

7 Wehner,

Eric

Throughout draft 26 occurrences General This is a general comment with an alternate

suggested change, in regard to four other comments

correcting use of "end outlet connections:" There is

very inconsistent usage in the draft of the combined

use of the terms "end connection" and "outlet

connnection." In all but two usages in 16C, "end

connection" alone is sufficient and unambiguous.

The exceptions are 10.7.9 and 10.14.2, where "outlet

connection" is used to differentiate one end

connection from the another (inlet connection) for

drilling chokes and for buffer chambers.

Use "end connection" in place of "end and

outlet connection," "end or outlet connection,"

"end outlet connection," "end connection and

outlet connection," "end connection or outlet

connection," and "outlet connection,"

everywhere in the standard except in 10.7.9.

Use "end and outlet connection"

throughout document except for 10.7.9

and 10.14.2.

8 Frazelle,

Andy

1 #e Technical Does this include flow thruough valves? If the OEM

are manufacturing choke or kill flow thru valves we

need to included in this section.

Add flow thru valves. Already Resolved

9 Grebing,

Kent

1 1st paragraph,

last bullet item

Editorial "swivel unions used in choke and kill assemblies":

"Choke and kill assemblies" is undefined and

unclear. The only 16C equipment that uses swivel

unions are articulated choke and kill lines.

Replace last bullet item with: "swivel unions

used in articulated choke and kill lines."

Duplicate EW comment 10

Reballot for approval of the second edition of API 16C, Choke and Kill Systems.

Spec 16C 2nd Ed., Choke & Kill Equipment - Ballot 3

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10 Wehner,

Eric

1 1st paragraph,

last bullet item

Editorial "swivel unions used in choke and kill assemblies":

"Choke and kill assemblies" is undefined and

unclear. The only 16C equipment that uses swivel

unions are articulated choke and kill lines.

Replace last bullet item with: "swivel unions

used in articulated choke and kill lines."

Use "swivel unions used in choke and

kill equipment" to be consistent with title.

11 Gallander,

Frank

1 a) Technical Strike "articulating choke and kill lines" Do not replace. Does not meet the bend

redius requirements of S53. Acceptable bend

radius has to be addressed in this

specification.

Create WG to address temporary use

versus permanent use. Completed.

12 Gallander,

Frank

1 h) General Add text. There needs to be a highlight for the

importance of API 17HU 1 for 2" hammer

union mismatch.

Non-persuasive. Will reference in

bibliograhy.

13 Gallander,

Frank

1 j) General Remove from text. for the purpose of choke and kill lines, swivel

connections are not designed to meet the fire

retardant requirements as specified within

other SC16 documents. Should they be

permitted for this application?

Non-persuasive. Do not address fire

retardance anywhere in this document.

14 Baniak,

Edmund

2 General Clause 10.8.3.1 refereences API 500 or API 505 but

they are not in the normative reference list

Add API 500

Add API 505

Accept change

15 Baniak,

Edmund

2 General Missing the ASTM equivalent reference to the

Vickers Test Method

Add reference to ASTM E384 Accept change

16 Fowler,

John

2 2 General The reference to the AASME Code Section VIII

Division 1 should not be the 2004 Edition. The same

Appendix in the current 2013 edition is identical.

Remove "2004 Edition" from the reference to

Section VIII Division 1 (not Division 2 )

Accepted Change

17 Fowler,

John

2 2 General Add API Std 6X Add API Standard 6X, Design Calculations for

Pressure-containing Equipment

Accepted Change

18 McCaskill,

John

2 N/A Editorial Remove reference to specific edition of ASME BPVC

2004 Edition For Division 1 only. This is

unnecessary. Division 2 should stay as is.

ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code

(BPVC), Section VIII, Pressure Vessels -

Division 1

Accept change

19 McCaskill,

John

2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "AWS B 5.1, Specification for AWS

certification of welding inspectors, Paragraph

4.1"

Defer to next edition for inclusion in

subclause 2. Put in bibliography for

revision 2.

20 McCaskill,

John

2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4, Sampling procedures

and tables for inspection by variables for

percent nonconforming"

Non-persuasive

21 McCaskill,

John

2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ISO-10893-10:2011, Non-destructive

testing of steel tubes - part 10: Automated full

peripheral ultrasonic testing of seamless and

welded (except submerged arc-welded) steel

tubes for the detection of longitudinal and/or

transverse imperfections"

Defer to edition 3.

22 McCaskill,

John

2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ASTM E213, Standard practice for

ultrasonic testing of metal pipe and tubing"

Defer to edition 3.

23 McCaskill,

John

2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ISO-10893-5:2011, Non-destructive

testing of steel tubes - part 5: Magnetic particle

inspection on seamless and welded

ferromagnetic steel tubes for the detection of

surface imperfections"

Defer to edition 3.

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24 McCaskill,

John

2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ISO 10893-3:2011, Non-destructive

testing of steel tubes - part 3: Automated full

peripheral flux leakage testing of seamless

and welded (except submerged arc-welded)

ferromagnetic steel tubes for the detection of

longitudinal and/or transverse imperfections"

Defer to edition 3.

25 McCaskill,

John

2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "ASTM E570, Standard practice for flux

leakage examination of ferromagnetic steel

tubular products"

Defer to edition 3.

26 McCaskill,

John

2 NA Editorial Missing Reference Insert: "API 53, ...." Accept change

27 O'Donnell,

David

2 Editorial Why was ASTM E92 Removed? Add it back. Replaced by ISO standards 6507-1

28 Gallander,

Frank

2 Add General need reference to hammer unions include API 17HU 1 for 2" mismatch. Already resolved. Added to bibliography.

29 Gallander,

Frank

2 Add General API 17 TR 12 for subsea applications. Add reference to 17TR12 and possibly the

HPHT document TR8?

Not published yet.

30 Gallander,

Frank

3 General Too many unused terms are referenced. Remove any unused terms from glossary. Add

any new abbreviations and definitions.

Non-persuasive. Be more specific.

31 McCaskill,

John

3 3.1.48+ Editorial Add definition for Pressure-Controlling parts (Used in

7.4.8 and 7.4.9.2)

pressure-controlling part - part intended to

control or regulate the movement of

pressurized fluids.

EXAMPLES Valve-bore sealing mechanisms,

choke trim

Accept change. This is language directly

out of API 6A.

32 Gallander,

Frank

3 SAE General Is SAE a viable reference for well control equipment? Care should be taken when using a reference

to SAE type connectors being used. There are

places where SAE bolting is used on subsea

actuators, and that is clearly not the intended

use for that design.

Non-persuasive. SAE acceptable for

hydraulic hoses.

33 Frazelle,

Andy

3.1.1 1st Technical This definition does not include its use in the

document for pressure testing.

Perhaps this should include a second defintion

with regards to pressure testing. "A standard

for determination that the test performed

provides assurance that this system or

component has integrity"

Add testing

34 McCaskill,

John

3.1.3 2 Technical Reference error

ASQ Z1.4 or ANSI/ASQ Z1.4

Change to: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4" Will Change

35 Grebing,

Kent

3.1.4, 3.1.30 Editorial Articulated choke and kill lines and flexible choke

and kill lines are in the Scope, but are not defined.

This is problematic because API 53 has definitions

and requirements for "choke/kill line" that conflict with

16C. In 16C, flexible, or articulated choke/kill lines

consist of piping and connections only. In Std 53,

"kill line" requirements include valves and pressure

gauges.

(1) Change title of 3.1.4 to list both terms:

"articulated line" and "articulated choke and kill

line." (2) Change title of 3.1.30 to list both

terms: "flexible line" and "flexible choke and kill

line." For an example of a definition with two

terms in the title see 3.1.39.

Duplicate EW comment 36

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36 Wehner,

Eric

3.1.4, 3.1.30 Editorial Articulated choke and kill lines and flexible choke

and kill lines are in the Scope, but are not defined.

This is problematic because API 53 has definitions

and requirements for "choke/kill line" that conflict with

16C. In 16C, flexible, or articulated choke/kill lines

consist of piping and connections only. In Std 53,

"kill line" requirements include valves and pressure

gauges.

(1) Change title of 3.1.4 to list both terms:

"articulated line" and "articulated choke and kill

line." (2) Change title of 3.1.30 to list both

terms: "flexible line" and "flexible choke and kill

line." For an example of a definition with two

terms in the title see 3.1.39.

Addressed by WG on Articulated Lines.

37 Young,

Kenneth

3.1.5 Editorial The definition for a body is "Any portion of API

equipment between end connections…". Does this

mean that the end connection are not part of the

body even though it is an integral forging.

Clarification needed Non-Persuasive

38 Frazelle,

Andy

3.1.16 1st Technical Compliance tends to be related to aligning to laws

where as comformance is aligning with standards or

non-legal requirements.

"the act of being in alignment with the

standards prescribed"

Non-Persuasive

39 Nagy, Tibor 3.1.21 Editorial Change order of words End assembly containing a termination and

end connection used on flexible choke and kill

lines

Non-Persuasive

40 Baniak,

Edmund

3.1.22 Technical Misplaced reference to API in the definition. It iwould

imply there is a difference between an API Intergral

Flange (defined somewhere) and just an Intergral

Fange (which IS defined in Spec 6A).

Remove reference to "API" in the defintion and

if required make conformace to the applicable

API specification an explicit requirement in the

appropriate section of the spec.

Already resolved.

41 Grebing,

Kent

3.1.22 Editorial Definition of end and outlet connection does not

include other end connectors, which are referenced

in 3.1.46, 3.1.55, 7.4.15.1, and 10.3.2

Change to read: "3.1.22 end and outlet

connection: API integral threads, API flanges,

API hubs, API unions, or other end connectors

used to join together equipment that contains

or controls pressure."

Duplicate EW comment 42

42 Wehner,

Eric

3.1.22 Editorial Definition of end and outlet connection does not

include other end connectors, which are referenced

in 3.1.46, 3.1.55, 7.4.15.1, and 10.3.2

Change to read: "3.1.22 end and outlet

connection: API integral threads, API flanges,

API hubs, API unions, or other end connectors

used to join together equipment that contains

or controls pressure."

Accept change.

43 Grebing,

Kent

3.1.27 Editorial No usage of defined term. Definition of "fit" as a verb

is not applicable to the use of "fitted" in 3.1.66, and

there is no other use of "fit" as a verb.

Delete 3.1.27 fit, (verb). Duplicate EW comment 44

44 Wehner,

Eric

3.1.27 Editorial No usage of defined term. Definition of "fit" as a verb

is not applicable to the use of "fitted" in 3.1.66, and

there is no other use of "fit" as a verb.

Delete 3.1.27 fit, (verb). Non-persuasive. Deleted 3.1.66 as

unnecessary. Fit is used in 4.5.3. &

A.3.1 and will remain.

45 Baniak,

Edmund

3.1.28 Technical API reference should be part of the document and

not specific to the definition.

Delete API in the defintion and make

conformance to the API spec a requirement in

the document as applicable.

Accept change

46 Gallander,

Frank

3.1.33 General Form has many variations within the document. Not sure how to address the use of "form" or

does it even need to be defined?

Added "noun" in description of form.

Two places it is used as verb.

47 Frazelle,

Andy

3.1.40 1st Technical The definition does not relate this to pressure testing "The period of time, during pressure testing,

that the product is subjected to pressure and

isolated from the pressure source."

Non-Persuasive

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48 Grebing,

Kent

3.1.55 Editorial (1) The term used in ten places throughout 16C is

"rigid piping" not "rigid pipe." (2) The use of the terms

"rigid piping" and "rigid choke and kill lines"

interchangeably is very confusing. Since rigid choke

and kill lines are listed in Scope and in the

monogram license information form, requirements

should be unambiguous.The NOTE in 3.1.55 states

"Rigid pipe includes choke and kill lines," but

requirements in clauses 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 are given

for either one or the other..

(1) Change "3.1.55 rigid pipe" to "3.1.56 rigid

piping." (2) Add new definition "3.1.55 rigid

choke and kill lines: Rigid piping, straight or

with bends, with end connectors, for use in

choke and kill systems."

Duplicate EW comment 49

49 Wehner,

Eric

3.1.55 Editorial (1) The term used in ten places throughout 16C is

"rigid piping" not "rigid pipe." (2) The use of the terms

"rigid piping" and "rigid choke and kill lines"

interchangeably is very confusing. Since rigid choke

and kill lines are listed in Scope and in the

monogram license information form, requirements

should be unambiguous.The NOTE in 3.1.55 states

"Rigid pipe includes choke and kill lines," but

requirements in clauses 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 are given

for either one or the other..

(1) Change "3.1.55 rigid pipe" to "3.1.56 rigid

piping." (2) Add new definition "3.1.55 rigid

choke and kill lines: Rigid piping, straight or

with bends, with end connectors, for use in

choke and kill systems."

Accept change with modification. Added

new definition for "rigid choke and kill

lines". Used equipment versus system.

50 O'Donnell,

David

3.1.58 Technical Why remove "manufacturer's"? The needs to be

defined and not left open for interpretation.

Leave "the manufacturer's" non-persuasive

51 O'Donnell,

David

3.1.59 Technical Why remove "manufacturer's"? The needs to be

defined and not left open for interpretation.

Leave "the manufacturer's" non-persuasive

52 Cherbonnie

r, David

3.1.59 Stabilized Editorial witin a specified range is too vague to within the specified design range. Non-persuasive

53 Cherbonnie

r, David

3.1.59 Stabilized Technical The reference is entirely related to "temperature".

Pressure Satilization during testing should be

included

Stabilized (Pressure Testing) The state where

test pressure rate of change does not exceed

0.1% of the test pressure per minute or 10 psi

per minute which ever is lesser.

non-persuasive, not per API guidelines

54 Gallander,

Frank

4 Table 1 General Might be in conflict with other SC16 documents. Meet other SC16 Specification requirements

and do not be in conflict.

Non-persuasive.

55 Baniak,

Edmund

4.1 Table 1 Technical Table 1 inclues Rating A, B and X, all of which are

not part of API Spec 6A. Since you would expect

some equipement for 6A to be used in assembled

16C equipment, you set the stage for having

components from different ratings, and more

importantly, ratings that do not apply in some cases.

Add additional language for when components

of different temperature ratings are used in

16C equipment as to what the final rating of

the equipemnt would be based on.

Non-persuasive.

56 Baniak,

Edmund

4.1.1 Tables2, 3 and

4

General Reference to Tables 2, 3, 4 occur before reference to

Table 1. This violate the API Style guide

requirements.

Either move the call out to Tables 2, 3 and 4 to

after Table 1 or renumber the tables to the

proper order based on the their call out.

Accept change.

57 Baniak,

Edmund

4.1.2 Technical Misplaced requirement in first sentence. You have

provided an implied requirement by stating the the

lowest temperature, but made it optional with the

"may". There is no need for stating this as an

abolute minimum if this is an option.

Change the "may" to a "should"..."Minimum

temperature is the lowest ambient temperature

to which the equipment should be subjected,

while in service.

Accept change with modification.

Replaced "may" with "can".

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58 Grebing,

Kent

4.1.2 1st paragraph,

3rd sentence

Technical Text, "Equipment shall be designed to operate within

the temperature ranges shown in Table 1" does not

clearly indicate that combined ratings may be used.

Change 3rd sentence to read: "Equipment

shall be designed to operate within one or

more of the temperature ranges shown in

Table 1."

Duplicate EW comment 60

59 Larson, Eric 4.1.2 Table 1 Editorial footnote 'a' in Table 1 refers to deleted Table E.1. remove footnote 'a' from Table 1 Change to refer to 4.1.2

60 Wehner,

Eric

4.1.2 1st paragraph,

3rd sentence

Technical Text, "Equipment shall be designed to operate within

the temperature ranges shown in Table 1" does not

clearly indicate that combined ratings may be used.

Change 3rd sentence to read: "Equipment

shall be designed to operate within one or

more of the temperature ranges shown in

Table 1."

Will Change

61 McCaskill,

John

4.1.2 Table 1 Editorial The order of the tables are not in sequence. In the

text, Table 2,3, and 4 is mentioned before Table 1.

Change the order of the tables to have 2, 3,

and 4 as 1, 2 and 3 respectively with the

current table 1 moving to table 4. (Text is fine)

Already resolved

62 Nagy, Tibor 4.1.2 Table 1, note

"a"

Editorial This note is not needed, bacause the referenced

table (E 1) was deleted.

Delete the note "a". Accept change. Refer to previous

comment

63 McCaskill,

John

4.1.3 Technical Add: "and moderately corrosive". This was present

in the first edition and should not be removed.

Choke and kill systems are generally mobile

and may be expected to be used in areas

where sour service and moderately corrosive

conditions may be encountered.

non-persuasive

64 Baniak,

Edmund

4.1.3 1st Sentence General There is no requirement in the first sentence. This

reads like a NOTE

Make the 1st Sentence a NOTE after the 2nd

sentence.

Already resolved.

65 Frazelle,

Andy

4.1.3 1st Editorial The first sentence seems wordy. Consider replacing "may be expected to be

used" with "may be used". Seems there is no

loss of intent.

Change to "can be used"

66 Grebing,

Kent

4.1.3 1st paragraph Technical Requirement for metallic materials to "meet the

requirements of NACE MR0175/ISO 15156" is

insufficient without specifying a partial pressure of

H2S. Different materials commonly used in 16C

equipment have specified limits for H2S ranging from

0.5 psia to no limit. For a fluid pressure of 15000

psia, 0.5 psia equates to 33 ppm H2S. Given the

statement that this equipment is "generally mobile,"

there should be some minimum standard for H2S

level.

Change last sentence to read: "Metallic

materials that are exposed to the well fluid

shall meet the requirements of NACE

MR0175/ISO 15156, including a partial

pressure rating for H2S of 1.5 psia (10,34 Kpa)

or higher.

Duplicate EW comment 67

67 Wehner,

Eric

4.1.3 1st paragraph Technical Requirement for metallic materials to "meet the

requirements of NACE MR0175/ISO 15156" is

insufficient without specifying a partial pressure of

H2S. Different materials commonly used in 16C

equipment have specified limits for H2S ranging from

0.5 psia to no limit. For a fluid pressure of 15000

psia, 0.5 psia equates to 33 ppm H2S. Given the

statement that this equipment is "generally mobile,"

there should be some minimum standard for H2S

level.

Change last sentence to read: "Metallic

materials that are exposed to the well fluid

shall meet the requirements of NACE

MR0175/ISO 15156, including a partial

pressure rating for H2S of 1.5 psia (10,34 Kpa)

or higher.

Accept change

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68 Baniak,

Edmund

4.1.4 Technical This section is techncially redundant to 4.1.4.2. The

two are also inconsistent. First, 4.1.4.1 deals with

flange and hub end outlet connections...while 4.1.4.2

deals with end AND outlet connections.

And there is "no good English" in 4.1.4.1...Design

of... shall be design in accordance..."?? Also, since

design requirements are integral to Spec 16A and

6A, as are the manufacturing requirements, to have

two separate requirements for design and

manufacture (with respect to 6A/16A) is redundant.

Combine 4.1.4.1 and 4.1.4.2 into:

Flange and hub end connections shall be

manufactured in conformance to the

requirements of API 6A or API 16A, as

applicable.

4.1.4 was already deleted and moved to

4.3.

69 Frazelle,

Andy

4.1.4 Table 1, note Editorial The note is not clear how the ratings can be

combined.

Provide an example or two of how this can be

done for clarity.

Added Example in footnote

70 Grebing,

Kent

4.1.4 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined

in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not

defined. (2) Design of API flanged, studded, and

hubbed connections is provided in 6A & 16A, and

excluded from manufacturers' design responsibility.

(3) OEC's should be covered in 4.1.4.

Change title of 4.1.4.1 to: "Flange and Hub

End and Outlet Connections."

Duplicate EW comment 71

71 Wehner,

Eric

4.1.4 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined

in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not

defined. (2) Design of API flanged, studded, and

hubbed connections is provided in 6A & 16A, and

excluded from manufacturers' design responsibility.

(3) OEC's should be covered in 4.1.4.

Change title of 4.1.4.1 to: "Flange and Hub

End and Outlet Connections."

Accepted Change.

72 Young,

Kenneth

4.1.4 Editorial Section 4.1.4 Flange and Hub End Outlet

Connections is not part of Service Conditions

Move to Section 4.2 Moved 4.1.4 into section 4.3

73 Grebing,

Kent

4.1.4.1 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined

din 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not

defined. (2) Grammatical error: "Design of... are not

within the scope of this specification." The subject of

both verbal phrases is "design," (singular). (3)

Design of API flanged, studded, and hubbed

connections is provided in 6A & 16A, and excluded

from manufacturers' design responsibility. (4) OEC's

should be covered in 4.1.4.

Replace 4.1.4.1 with "Design of API flanged,

studded, and clamp-hub end and outlet

connections shall be as specified in API 6A

and/or API 16A, and is outside the scope of

this specification and the manufacturer's

design responsibility. Design of other end

connectors (OECs) used on 16C equipment

shall meet all the applicable design

requirements of API 6A."

Duplicate EW comment 74

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74 Wehner,

Eric

4.1.4.1 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined

in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not

defined. (2) Grammatical error: "Design of... are not

within the scope of this specification." The subject of

both verbal phrases is "design," (singular). (3)

Design of API flanged, studded, and hubbed

connections is provided in 6A & 16A, and excluded

from manufacturers' design responsibility. (4) OEC's

should be covered in 4.1.4.

Replace 4.1.4.1 with "Design of API flanged,

studded, and clamp-hub end and outlet

connections shall be as specified in API 6A

and/or API 16A, and is outside the scope of

this specification and the manufacturer's

design responsibility. Design of other end

connectors (OECs) used on 16C equipment

shall meet all the applicable design

requirements of API 6A."

Accepted with modifications.

75 Grebing,

Kent

4.1.4.2 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: (1) "Manufacturers shall make…" (2)

"applicable sections" is not clear; "section" is not

defined, and not all requirements in a "section" may

apply.

Replace 4.1.4.2 with: "End and outlet

connections shall be manufactured in

accordance with the applicable requirements

of API 6A and/or API 16A."

Duplicate EW comment 76

76 Wehner,

Eric

4.1.4.2 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: (1) "Manufacturers shall make…" (2)

"applicable sections" is not clear; "section" is not

defined, and not all requirements in a "section" may

apply.

Replace 4.1.4.2 with: "End and outlet

connections shall be manufactured in

accordance with the applicable requirements

of API 6A and/or API 16A."

Accepted Change with modification.

77 McCaskill,

John

4.2 Technical Remove class DD as acceptable trim, as this does

not prevent mild CO2 metal loss corrosion. If valve

stem-to-body connections are the only issue, then

there may be a possibility of some exception for

those specific parts. This reverts back to the same

requirements as the first edition. This standard

should not be weakened by allowing DD materials for

all components of the system, only because valve

stem-to-gate connections have been an issue for EE

trim.

…material Class EE, FF, or HH, with an… non-persuasive

78 McCaskill,

John

4.2 e) Technical Reinstate flow through valves in the requirements, as

they are an integral part of any choke and kill system.

This was required in the first edition, and still must be

required.

e) flow through valves Put "valves" back in as e).

79 O'Donnell,

David

4.2 Technical The document removed "flow through valves" Leave the "flow through valves" in place. Put "valves" back in as e).

80 O'Donnell,

David

4.2 Technical The wording of the first paragraph states the

products listed "shall have the requirements . . . and

shall have a minimum product specifiction level of

PSL 3, material class DD, EE, FF or HH . . . ". They

are not required and confuse the statement.

"Minimum requirement cover all above the DD

requirement.

State on the class "DD" as the minimum

requirement.

non-persuasive, not heirarchal

81 O'Donnell,

David

4.2 e) Technical Hubs are not part of API 6A and do not have the PSL

3 and class designations. They are part of 16A so

they do not follow the requirements of the above.

State they must meet Api 16A.

Agreed Change e) to below:hubbed end

and outlet connections (16A)

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82 Fogal,

Robert

4.2 e. Technical "Flow through valves" was deleted from the list of

components addressed by 16C. There was much

controversy over the required trim class being DD or

EE. In my opinion the improved corrosion resistance

of EE materials are beneficial, however this comment

at the elimination of gate valves, any material class,

from this specification.

Reinstate paragraph e. Flow-through valves Already Resolved

83 Gallander,

Frank

4.2 opening

paragraph

General Use of NACE reference for 1.5 psia partial pressure

for H2S.

I thinkthe partial pressure that is referenced in

NACE is 0.05 psia partial pressure and not 1.5

as specified in this document.

Non-persuasive.

84 Grebing,

Kent

4.2 former bullet

(e)

Editorial Error in draft deletes valves from list. Agreed change

was to change "flow-through valves" with 6A defined

term "full-bore valves."

Replace deleted 4.2 e) with "4.2 e) full-bore

valves."

Duplicate EW comment 90

85 Grebing,

Kent

4.2 bullets (f), (g),

(h) & (j)

(formerly g, h, i

& j)

Editorial The requirements of 4.2 are not applicable to the last

three items listed. Per API 6A, hydraulic actuators

do not have either a PSL or material class. Ring

gaskets and studs and nuts do not have PSL,

material class, or temperature rating.

Add a note to text paragraph of 4.2: "NOTE -

PSL and material class are not applicable to

choke or valve actuators; PSL, material class

and temperature rating are not applicable to

ring gaskets or studs and nuts."

Duplicate EW comment 91

86 Grebing,

Kent

4.2 bullet list (a)

through (j)

General Users often provide purchase specificatiions that

incorrectly require valves, flanges, and other 6A

equipment listed in 4.2 to be "certified to" 16C and

even monogrammed to 16C. Some 16C licensed

manufacturers have made the same mistake -

thinking that a gate valve used in a 16C manifold can

be certified as conforming to 16C if it is PU-EE-

PSL3. It would be very helpful to have clarity in 16C

on this point.

Add a note to the end of the list in 4.2: "NOTE -

Individual units of equipment listed above are

not API 16C equipment, even when used in

API 16C assemblies."

Duplicate EW comment 92

87 Larson, Eric 4.2 1 Editorial Sentence refers to Table 4 for temperature ratings,

Table 4 is now Flex line sizes and Rated Working

Pressures.

Refer to Table 1 instead of Table 4 Accept Change

88 Mills,

Darren

4.2 Paragraph 1 Technical Para 4.1.3 states materials to meet MR0175 when

sour conditions are encountered. MR0175 threshold

for H2S service is 0.5 psia. In Para 4.2 it states DD,

EE, FF or HH trim is required only when H2S is over

1.5 psia for the listed equipment.

DD, EE, FF or HH trim is required when H2S is

over 0.5 psia

Already Resolved

89 Nguyen,

Hung Phu

4.2 N/A General 1/ Remove material class DD

2/ Add "flow through valves" back in under Product

Specification.

1/ ...material class EE, FF or HH, with an H2S

partial pressure rating of 1.5 psia....

2/ flow through valves;

1. Non-persuasive 2. Accept change

90 Wehner,

Eric

4.2 former bullet

(e)

Editorial Error in draft deletes valves from list. Agreed change

was to change "flow-through valves" with 6A defined

term "full-bore valves."

Replace deleted 4.2 e) with "4.2 e) full-bore

valves."

Non-persuasive

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91 Wehner,

Eric

4.2 bullets (f), (g),

(h) & (j)

(formerly g, h, i

& j)

Editorial The requirements of 4.2 are not applicable to the last

three items listed. Per API 6A, hydraulic actuators

do not have either a PSL or material class. Ring

gaskets and studs and nuts do not have PSL,

material class, or temperature rating.

Add a note to text paragraph of 4.2: "NOTE -

PSL and material class are not applicable to

choke or valve actuators; PSL, material class

and temperature rating are not applicable to

ring gaskets or studs and nuts."

Accept change with modification.

Deleted ring gaskets, studs and nuts.

92 Wehner,

Eric

4.2 bullet list (a)

through (j)

General Users often provide purchase specificatiions that

incorrectly require valves, flanges, and other 6A

equipment listed in 4.2 to be "certified to" 16C and

even monogrammed to 16C. Some 16C licensed

manufacturers have made the same mistake -

thinking that a gate valve used in a 16C manifold can

be certified as conforming to 16C if it is PU-EE-

PSL3. It would be very helpful to have clarity in 16C

on this point.

Add a note to the end of the list in 4.2: "NOTE -

Individual units of equipment listed above are

not API 16C equipment, even when used in

API 16C assemblies."

Non-persuasive

93 Whitby,

Melvyn

4.2 4.2 Technical clarification and removal of ambiguity of current

verbiage of 4.2

....shall meet the requirements of API 6A and

shall have a minimum product specification

level of PSL3, material class DD with an H2S

rating of 1.5 psia.

Already Resolved

94 Whitby,

Melvyn

4.2 4.2 General Valves are not listed in the covered product listing. Change the deleted line "flow through valves"

to Valves.

Already Resolved

95 Whitby,

Melvyn

4.2 4.2 General Valves are not listed in the covered product listing. Change the deleted line "flow through valves"

to Valves.

refer to #94

96 Whitby,

Melvyn

4.2 4.2 Technical clarification and removal of ambiguity of current

verbiage of 4.2

....shall meet the requirements of API 6A and

shall have a minimum product specification

level of PSL3, material class DD with an H2S

rating of 1.5 psia.

Redundant

97 Frazelle,

Andy

4.2 #e Technical Why has this been crossed out since API 6A does

included requirements in tables B.67 thru B.71 for

this flow thru valves?

Need to add this back in since all the other

equipment is required to meet API 6A

Refer to #94

98 Nagy, Tibor 4.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial Reference to Table 4 regarding temperature rating is

is not correct

Change reference to Table 1 Refer to #87

99 Larson, Eric 4.3 1 General No reference is made to working pressures at 20ksi

or above meeting API 17TR8 guidelines.

suggestion to give guidance on high pressure

equipment.

Defer to next edition

100 Grebing,

Kent

4.3, 4.4,…4.9

inclusive

Editorial Clauses 4.3 through 4.9 are scrambled in order, are

not consistent with other product specs, and are

unnecessarily difficult to navigate. The clauses for

design-related activities: design methods, allowable

stresses, performance requirements, design

validation and design documentation, should be

together (4.3, 4.4, 4.7, & 4.10). The clauses for

product specifications: size, pressure, temperature,

etc., should be together (4.1, 4.2, 4.6, 4.8, & 4.9).

Change clause 4.3 to 4.6, clause 4.4 to 4.7,

clause 4.5 to 4.8, clause 4.6 to 4.3, clause 4.7

to 4.9, clause 4.8 to 4.4, and clause 4.9 to 4.5.

Duplicate EW comment 101

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101 Wehner,

Eric

4.3, 4.4,…4.9

inclusive

Editorial Clauses 4.3 through 4.9 are scrambled in order, are

not consistent with other product specs, and are

unnecessarily difficult to navigate. The clauses for

design-related activities: design methods, allowable

stresses, performance requirements, design

validation and design documentation, should be

together (4.3, 4.4, 4.7, & 4.10). The clauses for

product specifications: size, pressure, temperature,

etc., should be together (4.1, 4.2, 4.6, 4.8, & 4.9).

Change clause 4.3 to 4.6, clause 4.4 to 4.7,

clause 4.5 to 4.8, clause 4.6 to 4.3, clause 4.7

to 4.9, clause 4.8 to 4.4, and clause 4.9 to 4.5.

Refer to Jon Fowlers's Comments in sort

key 102.

102 Fowler,

John

4.3.2 4.3.2 Technical Standard 6X is soon to be released. This will replace

sections 4.3.2 and 4.3.3.

Replace 4.3.2.with:

4.3.2 API Std 6X

The design methodology of API Standard 6X

Accepted Change. Deleted 4.3.3

103 Larson, Eric 4.3.2 1 Technical Draft API 6X permits the use of von mises equivalent

stress method as a substitute for stress intensity.

Add verbage like 6X to permit stress methods. Accepted Change. Added von Mises

equivalent stress

104 Grebing,

Kent

4.3.3 1st sentence Editorial "Pressure-containing equipment" is not defined.

Design critera of 4.3 are applicable to pressure-

containing parts.

Replace first sentence with: "The ASME

method shall be used for design and

calculations for pressure-containing parts

using non-standard materials, with the

exception that..."

Duplicate EW comment 105

105 Wehner,

Eric

4.3.3 1st sentence Editorial "Pressure-containing equipment" is not defined.

Design critera of 4.3 are applicable to pressure-

containing parts.

Replace first sentence with: "The ASME

method shall be used for design and

calculations for pressure-containing parts

using non-standard materials, with the

exception that..."

Accept change

106 Grebing,

Kent

4.3.4 1st sentence Editorial "Pressure-containing equipment" is not defined.

Design critera of 4.3 are applicable to pressure-

containing parts..

Repace first sentence with: "The Distortion

Energy Method, also known as the Von Mises

Law, may be used for design calculations for

pressure-containing parts."

Duplicate EW comment 107

107 Wehner,

Eric

4.3.4 1st sentence Editorial "Pressure-containing equipment" is not defined.

Design critera of 4.3 are applicable to pressure-

containing parts..

Repace first sentence with: "The Distortion

Energy Method, also known as the Von Mises

Law, may be used for design calculations for

pressure-containing parts."

Refer to Jon Fowlers's Comments in sort

key 102.

108 Frazelle,

Andy

4.4.2 1st Editorial This sentence lacks clarity Consider replacing with "the ability of a

component or system to withstand a pressure

load at rated temperature without leakage."

Non-persuasive

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109 Grebing,

Kent

4.4.4 1st paragraph Editorial 4.4.4 does not belong in the list. "No visible leakage"

is a pressure test acceptance criterion, not a design

requirement. A performance requirement of zero

leakage cannot be imposed for design purposes

without defining cycle life, service life, fluid

properties, maintenance, etc. All dynamic seals

experience wear, and all elastomeric seals have a

finite service life.

Delete 4.4.4 Leakage. Duplicate EW comment 110

110 Wehner,

Eric

4.4.4 1st paragraph Editorial 4.4.4 does not belong in the list. "No visible leakage"

is a pressure test acceptance criterion, not a design

requirement. A performance requirement of zero

leakage cannot be imposed for design purposes

without defining cycle life, service life, fluid

properties, maintenance, etc. All dynamic seals

experience wear, and all elastomeric seals have a

finite service life.

Delete 4.4.4 Leakage. Non-persuasive

111 Young,

Kenneth

4.4.5 Editorial Products shall be capable of sustaining rated

loads… What rated loads; pressure is the only rated

load specified.

Clarification needed Non-persuasive

112 Grebing,

Kent

4.5.1 1st paragraph Editorial Non-standard language is unclear: (1) "are imposed

on," is informative wording, not clearly normative; (2)

"line samples" is undefined and unfamiliar. (3) The

second sentence is redundant to A.5.1:"Design

validation testing, where applicable, shall be

performed on prototypes or production models of

equipment listed in 1.2.1..."

Replace existing 4.5.1 with: "Design validation

shall be performed in accordance with Annex

A for products of new design and for design

changes to previously-validated products."

(Delete 2nd sentence.)

Duplicate EW comment 114

113 Grebing,

Kent

4.5.1 1st paragraph Technical Neither 4.5 nor A.2.1 identify which products listed in

1. Scope require design validation and which do not.

Add a note to text paragraph of 4.5.1: "NOTE -

Design validation testing is not required for

choke and kill manifold assemblies, buffer

chambers, or rigid choke and kill lines.

Validation of articulated choke and kill lines

validates the swivel unions used in the tested

assembly."

Duplicate EW comment 115

114 Wehner,

Eric

4.5.1 1st paragraph Editorial Non-standard language is unclear: (1) "are imposed

on," is informative wording, not clearly normative; (2)

"line samples" is undefined and unfamiliar. (3) The

second sentence is redundant to A.5.1:"Design

validation testing, where applicable, shall be

performed on prototypes or production models of

equipment listed in 1.2.1..."

Replace existing 4.5.1 with: "Design validation

shall be performed in accordance with Annex

A for products of new design and for design

changes to previously-validated products."

(Delete 2nd sentence.)

Accept change with modification

115 Wehner,

Eric

4.5.1 1st paragraph Technical Neither 4.5 nor A.2.1 identify which products listed in

1. Scope require design validation and which do not.

Add a note to text paragraph of 4.5.1: "NOTE -

Design validation testing is not required for

choke and kill manifold assemblies, buffer

chambers, or rigid choke and kill lines.

Validation of articulated choke and kill lines

validates the swivel unions used in the tested

assembly."

Task Group will break into two

comments. Agree to accept comment.

Pending discussion of articulated lines

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116 Baniak,

Edmund

4.5.3 Editorial Second sentence is a Defintion. Remove from this section and add defintion for

"Substantive Change" in section 3.

Accept change with modification.

117 McCaskill,

John

4.6 1 Editorial Consistancy of style of writing. When listing tables,

figures etc there is no need to say: "table1, table 2,

table 3, ...." (see section 4.1.1)

Tables 1, 2, and 3 Non-persuasive

118 McCaskill,

John

4.6 Table 3 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.

Singular or plural. 4.6 states "Bore Size and Rates

Working Pressure" (with the s scored out), However,

Table 2 states "Equipment Bore Sizes and Rated

Working Pressures".

Make them the same (either in singular or

plural)

Accept Change

119 Grebing,

Kent

4.7 first bullet item Editorial "Bolt-up" is not standard terminology. Replace "initial bolt-up" with "initial make-up." Duplicate EW comment 120

120 Wehner,

Eric

4.7 first bullet item Editorial "Bolt-up" is not standard terminology. Replace "initial bolt-up" with "initial make-up." Accept chanege with modification

121 Grebing,

Kent

4.8 1st paragraph Editorial As worded, 4.8 is informational, not normative. No

requirement is given in stating that clamps are

included in API 16A.

Replace 4.8 with: "Clamps for API 16BX hubs

shall comply with requirements of API 16A."

Duplicate EW comment 122

122 Wehner,

Eric

4.8 1st paragraph Editorial As worded, 4.8 is informational, not normative. No

requirement is given in stating that clamps are

included in API 16A.

Replace 4.8 with: "Clamps for API 16BX hubs

shall comply with requirements of API 16A."

Accept change with modification

123 McCaskill,

John

4.9 Title Editorial Consistancy of writing style.

Tab spacing between section number and text

Ensure that the spacing is correct and

consistant

Non-persuasive

124 McCaskill,

John

4.10 Title Editorial Consistancy of writing style.

Tab spacing between section number and text

Ensure that the spacing is correct and

consistant

Non-persuasive

125 Baniak,

Edmund

5.2.4 Technical It is not clear what you mean by special corrosion

resistant material. This could be misused by a

manufacturer to get out of required material testing

for some special alloy materials.

Need to add language requiring more than just

what whe manufacturer defines for materials

that may be used in pressure containing

instances but be "classified" as special

corrosion resistent.

Non-persuasive

126 McCaskill,

John

5.3 Technical Drilling choke materials as defined in this spec are

nowhere required to comply with any specific

material class or with NACE

5.3 Drilling Chokes

5.3.1 Materials for bodies, bonnets, plugs,

caps, and end connections shall comply with

Table 5 and Table 6.

5.3.2 Drilling choke materials shall comply with

API 6A material Class EE-1.5 or higher

Accept Change

127 McCaskill,

John

5.3 1 Editorial Consistancy of style of writing. When listing tables,

figures etc there is no need to say: "table1, table 2,

table 3, ...." (see section 4.1.1)

Tables 5 and 6. Non-persuasive

128 Frazelle,

Andy

5.4 1st Technical API has bolting guidance, document should

reference that and not provide OEM to define

requirement

Reference API 20E for this requirement Eric W will address. Proposed leaving

as-is. Address in future edition.

129 Young,

Kenneth

5.4 Technical API 20E was written specifically for bolting and

should be specified.

Closure bolting shall comply with API 20E. refer to #128

130 McCaskill,

John

5.6.1 1 Editorial Consistancy of style of writing. When listing tables,

figures etc there is no need to say: "table1, table 2,

table 3, ...." (see section 4.1.1)

Tables 5, 6, 7, and 8. Non-persuasive

131 McCaskill,

John

5.6.2 Table 9 Editorial Missing bracket (close bracket) on "L" 15 (20) Accept change

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132 McCaskill,

John

5.6.3.1 1 Editorial Vague comment

"...shall have a written document..." is very unclear.

Are they the provider of the document, are they

following the provided else where?

E.g. API 6A state "...manufacturer shall document...",

"manufacturer shall specify..." etc.

...manufacturer shall document....

Or

...manufacturer shall follow...

Non-persuasive

133 McCaskill,

John

5.6.3.2 1 Editorial Vague comment

"...shall have a written document..." is very unclear.

Are they the provider of the document, are they

following the provided else where?

E.g. API 6A state "...manufacturer shall document...",

"manufacturer shall specify..." etc.

...manufacturer shall document....

Or

...manufacturer shall follow...

Non-persuasive

134 McCaskill,

John

5.6.3.3 1 Editorial Vague comment

"...shall have a written document..." is very unclear.

Are they the provider of the document, are they

following the provided else where?

E.g. API 6A state "...manufacturer shall document...",

"manufacturer shall specify..." etc.

...manufacturer shall document....

Or

...manufacturer shall follow...

Non-persuasive

135 Frazelle,

Andy

5.6.5.2 2nd para Technical This lacks calrity and seems to say, if one of 3 tensile

tests is satisfactory then the material is good? If this

is incorrect then clarify; but 1 out of 3 seems to be a

low standard

If the first does not pass then require the two

additional to be satisfoctory for the material to

be qualified

Non-persuasive

136 McCaskill,

John

5.6.5.4 2 Editorial Consistancy of writing style

"cross section" or "cross-section"

Change to "cross-section" Accept Change

137 Grebing,

Kent

5.6.5.6 2nd paragraph Editorial Typo error: Phrase repeated in last sentence:

"specimens (recovered from the same location within

the same QTC with no additional"

Correct last sentence to read: "If a test fails,

then one retest of three additional specimens

(recovered from the same location within the

same QTC with no additional heat treatment)

may be made, each of which shall exhibit an

impact value equal to or exceeding the

required minimum average."

Duplicate EW comment 138

138 Wehner,

Eric

5.6.5.6 2nd paragraph Editorial Typo error: Phrase repeated in last sentence:

"specimens (recovered from the same location within

the same QTC with no additional"

Correct last sentence to read: "If a test fails,

then one retest of three additional specimens

(recovered from the same location within the

same QTC with no additional heat treatment)

may be made, each of which shall exhibit an

impact value equal to or exceeding the

required minimum average."

Accept change

139 Baniak,

Edmund

5.7 Technical The way this is currently worded, you only require

hardness and chemistry for pressure containing

piping. Really?

Add in all other requirements needed for

pressure containg components.

Accept change. Refer to 5.6 in entirety.

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140 Grebing,

Kent

5.8.1 Editorial Section 5.8 is confusing. Because QTCs from

prolongations and sacrificial parts are covered in

5.8.1 ("General"), it is not clear that separate QTCs

meeting the ER method of 5.8.2 may be used for

batch heat-treated parts.

Add new first paragraph to 5.8.1.1: "For parts

heat treated in batch furnaces only, the

qualification test coupon (QTC) may be taken

from a separate test coupon of the same heat

of material. For parts heat treated in

continuous furnaces or batch furnaces, the

qualification test coupon (QTC) may be taken

from a prolongation or trepanned core taken

from a production part or from a sacrificial

production part."

Duplicate EW comment 142

141 Grebing,

Kent

5.8.1 Technical The first sentence is incorrect and misleading: "The

properties exhibited by the qualification test coupon

(QTC) represent the properties of the material

comprising the equipment it qualifies." (1) QTCs

relate to parts, not equipment. (2) A QTC made to

the ER method of 5.8.2 does not necessarily

represent the properties of the material comprising

the part it qualifies. The QTC represents the

properties of parts only where the cross-section has

the same ER. It is not intended to represent

minimum properties throughout a part of varying size

and shape.

Replace 5.8.1.1 with (from 6A): "The

properties exhibited by the QTC shall

represent the properties of the thermal

response of the material comprising the

production parts it qualifies. Depending upon

the hardenability of a given material, the QTC

results might not always correspond to the

properties of the actual components at all

locations throughout their cross-section."

Duplicate EW comment 143

142 Wehner,

Eric

5.8.1 Editorial Section 5.8 is confusing. Because QTCs from

prolongations and sacrificial parts are covered in

5.8.1 ("General"), it is not clear that separate QTCs

meeting the ER method of 5.8.2 may be used for

batch heat-treated parts.

Add new first paragraph to 5.8.1.1: "For parts

heat treated in batch furnaces only, the

qualification test coupon (QTC) may be taken

from a separate test coupon of the same heat

of material. For parts heat treated in

continuous furnaces or batch furnaces, the

qualification test coupon (QTC) may be taken

from a prolongation or trepanned core taken

from a production part or from a sacrificial

production part."

Accept change

143 Wehner,

Eric

5.8.1 Technical The first sentence is incorrect and misleading: "The

properties exhibited by the qualification test coupon

(QTC) represent the properties of the material

comprising the equipment it qualifies." (1) QTCs

relate to parts, not equipment. (2) A QTC made to

the ER method of 5.8.2 does not necessarily

represent the properties of the material comprising

the part it qualifies. The QTC represents the

properties of parts only where the cross-section has

the same ER. It is not intended to represent

minimum properties throughout a part of varying size

and shape.

Replace 5.8.1.1 with (from 6A): "The

properties exhibited by the QTC shall

represent the properties of the thermal

response of the material comprising the

production parts it qualifies. Depending upon

the hardenability of a given material, the QTC

results might not always correspond to the

properties of the actual components at all

locations throughout their cross-section."

Accept change

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144 Grebing,

Kent

5.8.1.2 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: "the QTC will only qualify parts that

are identical in size and shape. to the part from

which it was removed. When the QTC is a sacrificial

part, it qualifies only parts having identical size and

shape." The QTC will not take any action, but the

manufacturer may use the QTC to take action.

Use passive voice: "When the QTC is a

trepanned outlet or a prolongation removed

from a part,the QTC may be used to qualify

only parts that are identical in size and shape

to the part from which it was removed. When

the QTC is a sacrificial part, it may be used to

qualify only parts having identical size and

shape."

Duplicate EW comment 145

145 Wehner,

Eric

5.8.1.2 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: "the QTC will only qualify parts that

are identical in size and shape. to the part from

which it was removed. When the QTC is a sacrificial

part, it qualifies only parts having identical size and

shape." The QTC will not take any action, but the

manufacturer may use the QTC to take action.

Use passive voice: "When the QTC is a

trepanned outlet or a prolongation removed

from a part,the QTC may be used to qualify

only parts that are identical in size and shape

to the part from which it was removed. When

the QTC is a sacrificial part, it may be used to

qualify only parts having identical size and

shape."

Already resolved

146 Grebing,

Kent

5.8.1.2, 5.8.1.3 Technical Restriction on use of QTCs from prolongation,

trepanning, or sacrificial parts is to qualify identical

parts only. This is unreasonable for parts and QTC

heat treated in batch furnaces. This restriction is

applied in 6A only for parts processed in continuous

furnaces.

Replace 5.8.1.2 & 5.8.1.3 with:

"5.8.1.2 For batch heat-treatment only, if the

QTC is a trepanned core or prolongation

removed from a production part, the QTC may

qualify only production parts having the same

or smaller ER. The QTC shall qualify only

material and parts produced from the same

heat."

"5.8.1.3 For material heat-treated in a

continuous furnace, the QTC shall consist of a

sacrificial production part or a

prolongation removed from a production part.

The sacrificial production part or prolongation

QTC shall qualify only production parts having

an identical size and shape. The QTC shall

qualify only material and parts produced from

the same heat and heat-treat lot."

Duplicate EW comment 147

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147 Wehner,

Eric

5.8.1.2, 5.8.1.3 Technical Restriction on use of QTCs from prolongation,

trepanning, or sacrificial parts is to qualify identical

parts only. This is unreasonable for parts and QTC

heat treated in batch furnaces. This restriction is

applied in 6A only for parts processed in continuous

furnaces.

Replace 5.8.1.2 & 5.8.1.3 with:

"5.8.1.2 For batch heat-treatment only, if the

QTC is a trepanned core or prolongation

removed from a production part, the QTC may

qualify only production parts having the same

or smaller ER. The QTC shall qualify only

material and parts produced from the same

heat."

"5.8.1.3 For material heat-treated in a

continuous furnace, the QTC shall consist of a

sacrificial production part or a

prolongation removed from a production part.

The sacrificial production part or prolongation

QTC shall qualify only production parts having

an identical size and shape. The QTC shall

qualify only material and parts produced from

the same heat and heat-treat lot."

Accept change

148 Grebing,

Kent

5.8.1.3 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: "A QTC will only qualify material and

parts produced from the same heat." The QTC will

not take any action, but the manufacturer may use

the QTC to take action.

Use passive voice: "A single QTC may be

used to material and parts produced from the

same heat."

Duplicate EW comment 149

149 Wehner,

Eric

5.8.1.3 1st paragraph Editorial Poor wording: "A QTC will only qualify material and

parts produced from the same heat." The QTC will

not take any action, but the manufacturer may use

the QTC to take action.

Use passive voice: "A single QTC may be

used to material and parts produced from the

same heat."

Already resolved

150 Goodman,

Roland

5.8.2 Figure 3 Editorial Figure 3 appears in 5.8.2 but is not referenced until

5.8.3.

Either reference Figure 3 in 5.8.2 or move it to

5.8.3.

Accept change and move. But need to

replace with current/correct picture (RG

will handle)

151 McCaskill,

John

5.8.2.1 Figure 1 General Graphics, not very clear The figure is not as clear and sharp as the one

shown on API 6A

Will be clear in publication

152 McCaskill,

John

5.8.2.1 Figure 2 General Graphics, not very clear The figure is not as clear and sharp as the one

shown on API 6A

Will be clear in publication

153 McCaskill,

John

5.8.3 Figure 3 General Graphics, not very clear It is very difficult to read the text in the figure,

increast the font size

Will be clear in publication

154 Grebing,

Kent

5.8.3.1 1st sentence Technical (1) Typo error?? "The QTC shall be processed using

a melting practice cleaner than that of the material it

qualifies," should be instead, "The QTC shall NOT be

processed using a melting practice cleaner than that

of the material it qualifies." (2) Example in

parentheses is a run-on sentence, making it

confusing.

Replace first sentence with: "The QTC shall

not be processed using a melting practice

cleaner than that of the material it qualifies.

(E.g., a QTC made from a remelt grade or

vacuum-degassed material shall not be used

to qualify material from the same primary melt,

if that material that has not experienced the

identical melting practice as the QTC.)"

Duplicate EW comment 155

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155 Wehner,

Eric

5.8.3.1 1st sentence Technical (1) Typo error?? "The QTC shall be processed using

a melting practice cleaner than that of the material it

qualifies," should be instead, "The QTC shall NOT be

processed using a melting practice cleaner than that

of the material it qualifies." (2) Example in

parentheses is a run-on sentence, making it

confusing.

Replace first sentence with: "The QTC shall

not be processed using a melting practice

cleaner than that of the material it qualifies.

(E.g., a QTC made from a remelt grade or

vacuum-degassed material shall not be used

to qualify material from the same primary melt,

if that material that has not experienced the

identical melting practice as the QTC.)"

Accept change

156 Larson, Eric 6.3.3.1 1 Technical Adding the specific requirement for AWS A.5.1 is

restrictive for filler metal specifications. 6A and 16A

do not restrict to A.5.1 but leave the wording to

'conform to AWS or manufacturer's specficiations'

remove the reference to A.5.1 Non-persuasive

157 McCaskill,

John

6.3.3.2.1 1 Editorial Grammatical error

Mechanical property of the weld metal = weld metal's

mechanical property

"...weld metal's mechanical properties..." Accept change

158 McCaskill,

John

6.3.5 Title Editorial Consistancy of writing style

"post weld" or "post-weld"

change to "Post-Weld" Accept change

159 O'Donnell,

David

6.3.5.4 Technical Why is Brinell testing removed from the document?

Table 11 has Brinell hardness listed. Document is

not homogeneous.

Add Brinell testing back into the document as it

is included in other API Specifications.

non-persuasive, BHN testing not

acceptable for welding qualification.

160 Grebing,

Kent

6.5.4.4 1st paragraph Editorial "These tests will confirm…" is not accepted

normative wording.

Change last sentence to read: "Test results for

the overlay material properties shall meet or

exceed the specified design requirements."

Duplicate EW comment 161

161 Wehner,

Eric

6.5.4.4 1st paragraph Editorial "These tests will confirm…" is not accepted

normative wording.

Change last sentence to read: "Test results for

the overlay material properties shall meet or

exceed the specified design requirements."

Accept change

162 Baniak,

Edmund

7.2.2.3 Editorial 7.2.2.3 Clause a) and part of b) are redundant with

the exception of "unique" in a).

Also, one "uses" a procedure...not "utilize" it.

Delete of measurement standard equipment in

b) and leave a) as is:

b) Identification of the calibration procedure

used in the calibration process.

Accept change

163 Baniak,

Edmund

7.2.2.3 Editorial Clause 7.2.2.3 c) and e) are redundant Delete one or the other. Accept change with modification

164 Baniak,

Edmund

7.2.2.4 Technical Last sentence of 7.2.2.4 seems contradictory. Why

would you want to remove requirements from

equipement requiring high accuracy? Maybe in

previous years, this was hard to achieve. But it

seems counterintuitive now.

Delete last sentence. Non-persuasive

165 Frazelle,

Andy

7.2.3 all Technical Does not align with API 53, the field requirements

(API53) are more rigorous than the shop

requirements. Seems backward

Align with API 53 for standardization Non-persuasive

166 Baniak,

Edmund

7.2.3.1 Editorial Reference to 7.2.2 in 7.2.3.1 seems wrong. Should it

be 7.2.3.

Change reference if required. Non-persuasive. Reference to 7.2 is

correct.

167 McCaskill,

John

7.2.3.1 1 Editorial Consistancy of writing style

"pressure measuring" or "pressure-measuring"

Change to "pressure measuring" Accept change with modification

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168 Nagy, Tibor 7.2.3.1 Editorial The referred section (7.4.9.5.3) is not in the

document.

Please correct the referred section number or

delete (see 7.4.9.5.3).

Accept Change

169 Baniak,

Edmund

7.2.3.2 Technical This wording is antiquated. This is a hard

requirement allowing only 3 calibration points. If

someone calibrates to 9 points (10-20-30-40...80-

90), they would be out of conformance with the

requirement (missing 25 and 75).

Change to standard use language from other

specs..."Pressure measuring devices shall be

recalibrated with a master pressure measuring

device or dead weight tester to at least three

equidistant points of full scale (excluding zero

and full scale as required points of

calibration)."

Accept change

170 Baniak,

Edmund

7.2.3.3 Technical Last sentence in 7.2.3.3 is incomplete. You need to

define an upper limit of acceptible time extension.

Add...The maximum allowable interval

between calibrations shall be one year.

Non-persuasive. Consistent with 6A

currently.

171 Frazelle,

Andy

7.3.2 4th bullet Technical How is the manufacturer's inspector trained. Seems

there may be conflict of interest

Remvoe this bullet and require that welding

inspectors are certified to external standard

Non-persuasive

172 McCaskill,

John

7.3.2 2 Technical Refer to the standard where the new statement came

from regarding the manufacturer having a written

procedure that defines the roles and resposibilities of

CWIs and CAWIs

"…variables and equipment monitoring, ref

AWS B5.1, P4.1. In-process welding…"

OR

"..."…variables and equipment monitoring [10].

In-process welding…"

and include the reference in the bibliography

Refer Back to TG for 3rd edition

173 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.4.1 Table 10 Technical End Outlets are combined but should be separate.

Example: 10.2 End and Outlet Connections

End and Outlet Connections Accept change

174 Grebing,

Kent

7.4.1 Table 10 Editorial Title of Table 10 was correct prior to the last revision

of the draft: "End and Outlet Connections" is the term

defined in 3.1.22, is the title of 10.2, and is used

throughout API 6A. "End Outlet Connections" is not

defined, and is used 4 times In the ballot draft; "End

and Outlet Connections" is used 17 times; "End or

Outlet Connections" is used 5 times.

Change title of Table 10 back to "Quality

Control Requirements for Bodies, Bonnets,

Choke and Kill Lines, and End and Outlet

Connections."

Duplicate EW comment 175

175 Wehner,

Eric

7.4.1 Table 10 Editorial Title of Table 10 was correct prior to the last revision

of the draft: "End and Outlet Connections" is the term

defined in 3.1.22, is the title of 10.2, and is used

throughout API 6A. "End Outlet Connections" is not

defined, and is used 4 times In the ballot draft; "End

and Outlet Connections" is used 17 times; "End or

Outlet Connections" is used 5 times.

Change title of Table 10 back to "Quality

Control Requirements for Bodies, Bonnets,

Choke and Kill Lines, and End and Outlet

Connections."

Accept Change

176 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.4.1 Table (figure?)

10

Editorial 1. There is no "Typical Assy as it varies per use

2. I believe articulated swivels have only one swivel

not two as pictured.

1. Check typical swivel joint configuratin

Title is as an Articulated Arranigment

Accept change with modification

177 McCaskill,

John

7.4.1 Table 10 Editorial The term "End and outlet connections" is a pre-

defined term, therefor the "and" is needed

Re-insert "and" to read;

"End and Outlet Connections"

Already resolved with #175

178 Larson, Eric 7.4.10.1 1 General Not being very familiar with drilling chokes, but are

actuator components pressure containing?

Non-persuasive

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179 Larson, Eric 7.4.10.2 Table 18 Technical If actuators are pressure containing parts per

7.4.10.1, then why are the quality control

requirements relaxed when comparing Table 18 to

Table 10?

Confirm whether the pressure containing parts

quality control requirements for Tables 18 and

10 should be consistent.

Non-persuasive

180 McCaskill,

John

7.4.11.2.1 1 Technical Reference error

ASQ Z1.4 or ANSI/ASQ Z1.4

Change to: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4" Accept change

181 McCaskill,

John

7.4.11.3.1 1 Technical Reference error

ASQ Z1.4 or ANSI/ASQ Z1.4

Change to: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4" Accept change

182 McCaskill,

John

7.4.11.4.1 1 Technical Reference error

ASQ Z1.4 or ANSI/ASQ Z1.4

Change to: "ANSI/ASQ Z1.4" Accept change

183 Grebing,

Kent

7.4.13.1 a) bullet (a) Editorial Grammatical error: "wetted-end" should not be

hyphenated. The adjectives "wetted" and "end" are

not associated.

Change to read: "a) metallic fluid-wetted end

and outlet connections and end terminations"

Duplicate EW comment 184

184 Wehner,

Eric

7.4.13.1 a) bullet (a) Editorial Grammatical error: "wetted-end" should not be

hyphenated. The adjectives "wetted" and "end" are

not associated.

Change to read: "a) metallic fluid-wetted end

and outlet connections and end terminations"

Accept change

185 Grebing,

Kent

7.4.13.1 b) bullet (b) Editorial Grammatical error: "wetted-reinforcement" should not

be hyphenated. The adjectives "non-wetted" and

"reinforcement" are not associated.

Change to read: "b) metallic non-wetted

reinforcement windings and end terminations."

Duplicate EW comment 186

186 Wehner,

Eric

7.4.13.1 b) bullet (b) Editorial Grammatical error: "wetted-reinforcement" should not

be hyphenated. The adjectives "non-wetted" and

"reinforcement" are not associated.

Change to read: "b) metallic non-wetted

reinforcement windings and end terminations."

Accept change

187 McCaskill,

John

7.4.15.4.2.2 1 Technical Reference error

ISO 9303 and ISO 9305 has been revised by : ISO

10893-10:2011 (both have been incorporated into

the 1 standard)

Change the sentence to: "...inside surface in

accordance with ISO 10893-10:2011 or ASTM

E213 for both longitudinal and transverse

imperfections."

Accept change to ISO 10893-10 without

date

188 Powell, Troy 7.4.15.4.2.4 c General Reads .4" (1.2 mm) .04" (1.2 mm) Accept Change to .040" (1.0 mm)

189 McCaskill,

John

7.4.15.4.3 Table 22 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.

Dimension definition to be inside of the table

Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive

190 McCaskill,

John

7.4.15.5.2.1 1 Technical Reference error

ISO 13665 has been revised by : ISO 10893-5:2011

Change to : "ISO 10893-5:2011" Accept change to ISO 10893-5 without

date

191 McCaskill,

John

7.4.15.5.4.1 1 Technical Reference error

ISO 9303 has been revised by : ISO 10893-10:2011

Change to : "ISO 10893-10:2011" Accept change to ISO 10893-10 without

date

192 McCaskill,

John

7.4.15.5.5.1 1 Technical Reference error

ISO 9402 and ISO 9598 has been revised by : ISO

10893-3:2011 (both have been incorporated into the

1 standard)

Change the sentence to: outside diameter in

accordance with ISO 10893-3:2011 or ASTM

E570 for both longitudinal and transverse

imperfections."

Accept change to ISO 10893-3 without

date

193 Larson, Eric 7.4.6.1 Editorial Title of 7.4.6 and text in 7.4.6.1 are not in agreement. Add choke and kill lines to the tile of 7.4.6 Accept Change

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194 Grebing,

Kent

7.4.6.1 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined

in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not

defined. (2) "Requirements are found in…" is poor

grammar without identification of the finder.

"Requirements can be found in..." is better, but a

purely factual "Requirements are listed in..." is better

yet.

Replace 7.4.6.1 with: "Quality control

requirements for bodies, bonnets, choke and

kill lines, and end and outlet connections are

listed in Table 10."

Duplicate EW comment 196

195 McCaskill,

John

7.4.6.1 1 Editorial The term "End and outlet connections" is a pre-

defined term, therefor the "and" is needed

Re-insert "and" to read;

"End and Outlet Connections"

Accept change

196 Wehner,

Eric

7.4.6.1 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "End and Outlet Connections" is the term defined

in 3.1.22, and "End Outlet Connections" is not

defined. (2) "Requirements are found in…" is poor

grammar without identification of the finder.

"Requirements can be found in..." is better, but a

purely factual "Requirements are listed in..." is better

yet.

Replace 7.4.6.1 with: "Quality control

requirements for bodies, bonnets, choke and

kill lines, and end and outlet connections are

listed in Table 10."

Accept change

197 McCaskill,

John

7.4.6.10.3 Table 12 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.

Dimension definition to be inside of the table

Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive

198 Baniak,

Edmund

7.4.6.11.4.2 Table 14 Editorial The table 14 in 7.4.6.11.4.2 looks remarkably similar

to table 15.

Combine Table 14 and Table 15 into one and

re-title as needed. [Then change references

to the deleted table]

Non-persuasive

199 McCaskill,

John

7.4.6.11.4.2 Table 14 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.

Dimension definition to be inside of the table

Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive

200 Goodman,

Roland

7.4.6.11.4.2 Table 14 Editorial Missing reference to Table 14. Add a reference to Table 14 in the text. Non-persuasive

201 McCaskill,

John

7.4.6.11.4.3 Table 15 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.

Dimension definition to be inside of the table

Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive

202 O'Donnell,

David

7.4.6.11.5.2 Technical Brinell issue again. Has Brinell and Rockwell

hardness testing.

Need to document to be consistent. Change to add ASTM E110 to allow

portable hardness testers. Product is

tested with either BHN or Rockwell

testing.203 Grebing,

Kent

7.4.6.4.3.1 1st paragraph Editorial The purpose of the minimum hardness criteria of

Table 11 is to verify minimum tensile strength

requirements are met. The method in 7.4.6.4.3.2 of

calculating tensile strength provides a means of

accepting a part that does not meet the mimimum

hardness requirement of Table 11. In such a case, it

is accurate to say that a part can be considered

acceptable, but not that it can be considered to have

an acceptable hardness.

Revise 7.4.6.4.3.1 to read: "If hardness test

results do not meet the required minimum

hardness value, the part may be considered

acceptable if the calculated tensile strength

based on the hardness measurement meets

the requirements of 7.4.6.4.3.2."

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204 Wehner,

Eric

7.4.6.4.3.1 1st paragraph Editorial The purpose of the minimum hardness criteria of

Table 11 is to verify minimum tensile strength

requirements are met. The method in 7.4.6.4.3.2 of

calculating tensile strength provides a means of

accepting a part that does not meet the mimimum

hardness requirement of Table 11. In such a case, it

is accurate to say that a part can be considered

acceptable, but not that it can be considered to have

an acceptable hardness.

Revise 7.4.6.4.3.1 to read: "If hardness test

results do not meet the required minimum

hardness value, the part may be considered

acceptable if the calculated tensile strength

based on the hardness measurement meets

the requirements of 7.4.6.4.3.2."

Accept change

205 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.1 Table 24 Technical Hydraulic Control System has been addded..

Actuators are already covered. If we are refering to

controls systems Electric must also be included.

Delete the addition or change to "Control

Systems"

Refer Back to TG for 3rd edition

206 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.12 Assembled

Manifold

General Now that 16C is Equipment not systems, the

Manifold is treated as a collection of components

and equipment

Manifold Assembly Accept change

207 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.12 Assembled

Manifold

Editorial If the intent is to not repeat proof tests the wording is

cumbersome and implies "loose equipment" does not

have to be tested.

A manifold assembley consisting of

components previously tested in accordance

with 7.5.4 shall be tested to Maximum Rated

Working Pressure prior to shipment from the

assembler's facility.

Already addressed

208 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.12 Assembled

Manifold

Technical other than "loose connectors". Loose connectors

has not been identified. Assuming it refers to blind

flanges and test port flanges this implies they do not

require test.

A manifold assembley consisting of

components previously tested in accordance

with 7.5.4 shall be tested to Maximum Rated

Working Pressure prior to shipment from the

assembler's facility.

Proposed Change: "other than loose

connectors, as defined in API 6A."

209 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.12 Assembled

Manifold

Editorial Loose Connectors, if used must be defined Add definition of "Loose Connectors" to

Section 3

Already addressed

210 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.12 Assembled

Manifold

General In reference to the term "Hydrostatic Test". This is

not defined anywhere in this specification. The

usage tends to compare with what is known as a

"Proof Test".Ref:UG-99, UG-100 & 101, ASME VIII

Substitute "Proof Test" where the intent is

150% of Maximum Rated Working Pressure.

Define it as such in Section 3.

Non-Persuasive

211 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.12 Assembled

Manifold

General For manifolds with multiple pressure ratings all

equipment upsteam of the pressure break shall be

etc. A Manifold of a specific configuration may be

offered in different pressure ratings but the Manifold

rating is dependent on the MWP of the chokes.

Delete the proposed change and retain the

original which clearly states the intent.

Accept change with modification.

212 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.12 Assembled

Manifold

Technical "'pressure break" is not defined and as a new term

requires definition

Preferably delete the proposed change.

Alternatively add definition of Pressure Break

to section 3

Get language from S53 for dual-rated

chokes.

213 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.12 Assembled

Manifold

General Testing of assembled manifold.should be done in

two stages. Upstream of the choke to the choke

MWP and downstream of the choke.for the lower

rated components

If the Manifold Assembly consists of

components with two pressure ratings, the

higher rated section shall be tested seperately

to it's rated rated working pressure.. Upon

final assembley the manifold shall be retested

to the lower rated working pressure.

Resolved

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214 Frazelle,

Andy

7.5.12 1 General Exception requires simplification. Does the exception

mean that the assembled manifold FAT test pressure

should only be to RWP and not to 1.5 times RWP

during FAT, If individual components have already

undergone testing to 1.5 times RWP?

See wording in comment box Re-wrote section reference hydrostatic

proof test.

215 McCaskill,

John

7.5.12 1 Editorial Defragmented sentence Change to: "...in accordance with 7.5.4, except

for manifolds assembled entirely with

equipment, other than loose connectors, that

has been previously subjected to hydrostatic

testing, to which, testing is only necessary to

woring pressure."

Resolved in previous comment #214.

216 Stewart,

Chris

7.5.12 No. 1 Technical The point of this paragraph is to hydro test the

assembled manifold; however, the paragraph now

allows exceptions such that the individual

components can be hydro tested seperately then

assembled. It seems reasonable to do this as long as

the assembled manifold is still tested to 1.1 x RWP.

…"only testing to 1.10 times the rated working

pressure is necessary."...

Refer to #214

217 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.13.2 Last sentence Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include

gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of

16C.

Replace last sentence with "Test media shall

be water with or without additives or other

suitable hydraulic fluid.."

Duplicate EW comment 218

218 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.13.2 Last sentence Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include

gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of

16C.

Replace last sentence with "Test media shall

be water with or without additives or other

suitable hydraulic fluid.."

Non-Persuasive

219 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.13.3 Acceptance

Criteria

Editorial In the statement "There shall be no visible leakage, it

would be more accurate to use discernable.

There shall be no discernable leakage Non-persuasive

220 Frazelle,

Andy

7.5.13.3 1st sentence Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Non-persuasive

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221 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.4.1 General The phrase "prior to shipment from the

manufacturer's facility" is neither a technical

requirement nor a standardization requirement, it is a

commercial restraint that does not belong in a

product specification. The manufacturer may have

reason to perform hydrostatic testing at a

subcontractor or corporate sister facility. If the

manufacturer has documented procedures and off-

site personnel to control the test process and final

acceptance, the product spec should not require that

the equipment be shipped back to the OEM facility

before shiipment to the customer. E.g., if a fully

assembled choke manifold is too large for road

shipment, it may be shipped to a dockside facility in

sub-sections, fully assembled and tested there, and

shipped by water to the purchaser directly from the

remote facility. This is a logistics exercise only and

does not compromise the product, the

manufacturer's quality management system, or any

institution's use of the word "manufacturer."

Replace "prior to shipment from the

manufacturer's facility" with "prior to final

acceptance."

Duplicate EW comment 222

222 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.4.1 General The phrase "prior to shipment from the

manufacturer's facility" is neither a technical

requirement nor a standardization requirement, it is a

commercial restraint that does not belong in a

product specification. The manufacturer may have

reason to perform hydrostatic testing at a

subcontractor or corporate sister facility. If the

manufacturer has documented procedures and off-

site personnel to control the test process and final

acceptance, the product spec should not require that

the equipment be shipped back to the OEM facility

before shiipment to the customer. E.g., if a fully

assembled choke manifold is too large for road

shipment, it may be shipped to a dockside facility in

sub-sections, fully assembled and tested there, and

shipped by water to the purchaser directly from the

remote facility. This is a logistics exercise only and

does not compromise the product, the

manufacturer's quality management system, or any

institution's use of the word "manufacturer."

Replace "prior to shipment from the

manufacturer's facility" with "prior to final

acceptance."

Accept change with modification.

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223 Frazelle,

Andy

7.5.4.1 1st para Technical The sentence that reads "Hydrostatic test pressure

shall not be applied as a differential pressure across

internal…" is a limiting sentence. Though chokes are

not required to isolate, we should not prohibit this

test with a SHALL NOT. From a field perspective I

am more likely to purchase a choke that has this

capability. However, given that wording we prohibit

the OEM from proving this.

Reword to clarify that the choke does not need

to be tested as an isolation device but do not

prohibit this test.

Non-persuasive

224 O'Donnell,

David

7.5.4.2 Technical The "timing" paragraph is too restrictive for the

pressures and volumes that may exist, i.e. kill and

choke lines.

Needs to be defined by the manufacturer in his

documented test specifications.

Non-Persuasive

225 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.4.2 Hydraulic

Tesing Method

manufacturer

specified

Technical Stabilized (Pressure Testing) is not defined.

Situations where exist where requirements exceed

Manufacture's specification

The state where pressure decrease is reduced

to a degree specified by the manufacture or

other applicable standard, which evere is the

least.

Non-Persuasive

226 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.4.2 Hydraulic

Testing

Technical "External assembley surfaces are throughly dry" isn't

adequete. Typical procedure is to use shop air to

reach trapped fluid which may present itself during

the pressure test.

and the exterior of the component to be tested

has been throughly dried and free of trapped

moisture. (Alternatively) and the exterior

surfaces are completely dry.

Non-Persuasive

227 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.5.4.2 Hydraulic

Testing

Editorial "which ever is less over the test period" is not

applicable when refering to the period before the test

starts. Both requirements stipulate it is a change over

a one minute period

which ever is less. Accept change with modification.

228 Young,

Kenneth

7.5.4.2 Technical Stabilized pressure definition is extremely tight when

the criteria is the lesser of 0.1% or 10 psi/min.

Change to "… 0.1% of the testing pressure per

minute or 10 psi/min, whichever is the greater

over the test period."

Re-wrote. Deleted "over test period".

229 McCaskill,

John

7.5.4.3 Table 25 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.

Dimension definition to be inside of the table

Please refer to table 5 Non-persuasive

230 Frazelle,

Andy

7.5.4.4 1st sentence Technical Need to include a stable pressure component to the

acceptance criteria for perssure testing. In shop

conditions this must be achievable.

Add a stable pressure component to

acceptance criteria for pressure testing

Already Resolved #228

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231 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.5, 7.5.6,

7.5.7

Editorial The clause titles and organization of 7.5.5 - 7.5.7 is

confusing (as was 16C 1st edition). Tests for manual

and remote chokes are not clearly distinguished.

Testing for positive chokes is not identified at all.

Reorganize and re-title 7.5.5 - 7.5.7 as follows:

7.5.5 Hydrostatic testing for adjustable &

positive drilling chokes

7.5.5.1 Body test

7.5.5.2 Seat-to-body seal test

7.5.6 Actuators for drilling chokes

7.5.6.1 Hydrostatic actuator shell test

7.5.6.2 Actuator function test

7.5.6.3 Actuator seal test

7.5.7 Functional testing for adjustable drilling

choke and choke/actuator assemblies

7.5.7.1 General

7.5.7.2 Torque test - manually actuated

chokes

7.5.7.3 Function test - all adjustable chokes

Duplicate EW comment 232

232 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.5, 7.5.6,

7.5.7

Editorial The clause titles and organization of 7.5.5 - 7.5.7 is

confusing (as was 16C 1st edition). Tests for manual

and remote chokes are not clearly distinguished.

Testing for positive chokes is not identified at all.

Reorganize and re-title 7.5.5 - 7.5.7 as follows:

7.5.5 Hydrostatic testing for adjustable &

positive drilling chokes

7.5.5.1 Body test

7.5.5.2 Seat-to-body seal test

7.5.6 Actuators for drilling chokes

7.5.6.1 Hydrostatic actuator shell test

7.5.6.2 Actuator function test

7.5.6.3 Actuator seal test

7.5.7 Functional testing for adjustable drilling

choke and choke/actuator assemblies

7.5.7.1 General

7.5.7.2 Torque test - manually actuated

chokes

7.5.7.3 Function test - all adjustable chokes

Accept Change with modification.

Remove section 7.5.3.

233 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.5.1 1st paragraph Technical The body test at 1.5 X RWP must be performed prior

to the seat-to-body seal test and the functional test,

to verify that any permanent deformation that occurs

in the body test does not affect sealing or operation

of the choke.

Replace 7.5.5.1 and combine with existing

7.5.5.2 to read: "7.5.5.1 Hydrostatic Body

Test: Each adjustable choke and positive

choke shall be subjected to a hydrostatic body

test in accordance with 7.5.4. The body test

shall be performed prior to all other testing of

7.5.5."

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234 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.5.1 1st paragraph Technical The body test at 1.5 X RWP must be performed prior

to the seat-to-body seal test and the functional test,

to verify that any permanent deformation that occurs

in the body test does not affect sealing or operation

of the choke.

Replace 7.5.5.1 and combine with existing

7.5.5.2 to read: "7.5.5.1 Hydrostatic Body

Test: Each adjustable choke and positive

choke shall be subjected to a hydrostatic body

test in accordance with 7.5.4. The body test

shall be performed prior to all other testing of

7.5.5."

Accept Change

235 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.5.1, 7.5.11,

7.5.12

General The phrase "prior to shipment from the

manufacturer's facility" is redundant to the same

phrase in 7.5.4.1. Clause 7.5.4 applies to all

hydrostatic pressure testing of 7.5.5 - 7.5.13.

Delete "prior to shipment from the

manufacturer's facility" from 7.5.5.1, 7.5.6.1.1,

7.5.11, & 7.5.12.

Duplicate EW comment 236

236 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.5.1, 7.5.11,

7.5.12

General The phrase "prior to shipment from the

manufacturer's facility" is redundant to the same

phrase in 7.5.4.1. Clause 7.5.4 applies to all

hydrostatic pressure testing of 7.5.5 - 7.5.13.

Delete "prior to shipment from the

manufacturer's facility" from 7.5.5.1, 7.5.6.1.1,

7.5.11, & 7.5.12.

Accept Change

237 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.5.2 1st paragraph Editorial 7.5.5.2 applies to 7.5.5.1, and does not fit the clause

numbering of 7.5.

Replace 7.5.5.1 and combine with existing

7.5.5.2 to read: "7.5.5.1 Hydrostatic Body

Test: Each adjustable choke and positive

choke shall be subjected to a hydrostatic body

test in accordance with 7.5.4. The body test

shall be performed prior to all other testing of

7.5.5, 7.5.6, and 7.5.7."

Duplicate EW comment 238

238 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.5.2 1st paragraph Editorial 7.5.5.2 applies to 7.5.5.1, and does not fit the clause

numbering of 7.5.

Replace 7.5.5.1 and combine with existing

7.5.5.2 to read: "7.5.5.1 Hydrostatic Body

Test: Each adjustable choke and positive

choke shall be subjected to a hydrostatic body

test in accordance with 7.5.4. The body test

shall be performed prior to all other testing of

7.5.5, 7.5.6, and 7.5.7."

Accept change.

239 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.5.3 7.5.5.3.1 &

7.5.5.3.2

Technical The "function test" of 7.5.5.3 is excessive, unrealistic,

and without technical justification. Proper use of

drilling chokes as described in 10.7.1, to control

downstream pressure, typically does not include

operation at or near full open or full closed. The

requirement to run 20 full open-close-open cycles at

full RWP is more akin to an extreme "break-in"

procedure or design validation test than a factory

acceptance test. It would result in purchasers

receiving new chokes with an unknown amount of

wear to stem seals, drive threads, bearings, mating

seat components, and other parts. 7.5.5.3 includes

no indication of whether it applies to both manual

and remote-actuated chokes, or why it is separate

from the function test of 7.5.7.3.1 and the torque test

of 7.5.7.2.1.

Delete 20-hz test of 7.5.5.3 and clarify that 3-

Hz test of 7.5.7.3.1 applies to all adjustable

chokes, manually or remotely actuated.

Assign to John M as an action item.

Resolved and accepted 3 hz.

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240 Whitby,

Melvyn

7.5.5.3.1 Technical Why do we subject both hydraulic and manual drilling

chokes to a 20 cycle test when they have already

been subjected to the validation testing through

A10.3 through A10.7?

Cycle the stem at rated working pressure a

minimum 3 times, open-close-open. The

mating parts shall be free of all lubrication not

specified in the manufacturer’s operating

manual.

Accept Change

241 Whitby,

Melvyn

7.5.5.3.1 Technical Why do we subject both hydraulic and manual drilling

chokes to a 20 cycle test when they have already

been subjected to the validation testing through

A10.3 through A10.7?

Cycle the stem at rated working pressure a

minimum 3 times, open-close-open. The

mating parts shall be free of all lubrication not

specified in the manufacturer’s operating

manual.

Redundant

242 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.5.3.1 &

7.5.5.3.2

Technical The "function test" of 7.5.5.3 is excessive, unrealistic,

and without technical justification. Proper use of

drilling chokes as described in 10.7.1, to control

downstream pressure, typically does not include

operation at or near full open or full closed. The

requirement to run 20 full open-close-open cycles at

full RWP is more akin to an extreme "break-in"

procedure or design validation test than a factory

acceptance test. It would result in purchasers

receiving new chokes with an unknown amount of

wear to stem seals, drive threads, bearings, mating

seat components, and other parts. 7.5.5.3 includes

no indication of whether it applies to both manual

and remote-actuated chokes, or why it is separate

from the function test of 7.5.7.3.1 and the torque test

of 7.5.7.2.1.

Delete 20-hz test of 7.5.5.3 and clarify that 3-

Hz test of 7.5.7.3.1 applies to all adjustable

chokes, manually or remotely actuated.

Duplicate EW comment 239

243 Frazelle,

Andy

7.5.5.4.2 1st sentence Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Accept change. Incorporate langauge

from 7.5.4.4.

244 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.6.1.1 1st paragraph General indicating mechanism should indicate equivalent

orifice size, not area, to be consistent with revision to

10.7.6 and API 6A.

Replace 7.5.6.1.1 with: "Each actuator shall be

subjected to an actuato body shell test to verify

structural integrity of the pressure-containing

parts."

Duplicate EW comment 245

245 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.6.1.1 1st paragraph General Indicating mechanism should indicate equivalent

orifice size, not area, to be consistent with revision to

10.7.6 and API 6A.

Replace 7.5.6.1.1 with: "Each actuator shall be

subjected to an actuator body shell test to

verify structural integrity of the pressure-

containing parts."

Change log is wrong. Assign as Action

Item to Eric and Roland.

246 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.6.1.2 1st paragraph Editorial (1) The phrase "for actuators with a choke maximum

rated working pressure less than or equal to 20,000

psi (138 MPa)" is unnecessary, since the maximum

RWP specified in Tables 2-4 is 20,000 psi (138

MPa).(2) The test of 7.5.6.1.2 is not an interface test;

it is an actuator shell test. (3) Double-acting

actuators must be tested on both sides.

Replace 1st paragraph of 7.5.6.1.2 with: "The

hydraulic portion of the actuator shall be tested

to 1.5 times the maximum rated working

pressure of the actuator. For double-acting

actuators, both functions shall be tested. (e.g.,

both sides of the piston and cylinder) This test

may be performed as part of the hydraulic

control system test."

Duplicate EW comment 248

247 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.6.1.2 2nd paragraph Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include

gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of

16C.

Replace 2nd paragraph of 7.5.6.1.2 with "Test

media shall be water with or without additives

or other suitable hydraulic fluid."

Duplicate EW comment 249

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248 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.6.1.2 1st paragraph Editorial (1) The phrase "for actuators with a choke maximum

rated working pressure less than or equal to 20,000

psi (138 MPa)" is unnecessary, since the maximum

RWP specified in Tables 2-4 is 20,000 psi (138

MPa).(2) The test of 7.5.6.1.2 is not an interface test;

it is an actuator shell test. (3) Double-acting

actuators must be tested on both sides.

Replace 1st paragraph of 7.5.6.1.2 with: "The

hydraulic portion of the actuator shall be tested

to 1.5 times the maximum rated working

pressure of the actuator. For double-acting

actuators, both functions shall be tested. (e.g.,

both sides of the piston and cylinder) This test

may be performed as part of the hydraulic

control system test."

Assign to John and Eric to propose

language by end of week.

249 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.6.1.2 2nd paragraph Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include

gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of

16C.

Replace 2nd paragraph of 7.5.6.1.2 with "Test

media shall be water with or without additives

or other suitable hydraulic fluid."

Non-persuasive

250 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.6.2.1 Last sentence Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include

gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of

16C.

Replace last sentence with "Test media shall

be water with or without additives or other

suitable hydraulic fluid.."

Duplicate EW comment 251

251 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.6.2.1 Last sentence Technical Test media for hydraulic actuators cannot include

gas. Pneumatic actuators are outside the scope of

16C.

Replace last sentence with "Test media shall

be water with or without additives or other

suitable hydraulic fluid.."

Non-persuasive

252 Frazelle,

Andy

7.5.6.3.1 1st para Technical Why are pneumatic actuators tested more rigorously

than hydraulic actuators?

Test both to the same standard or provide

reasoning for the difference

It is more difficult to detect gas leakage

than fluid leakage. Non-persuasive.

253 Frazelle,

Andy

7.5.6.3.2 1st sentence Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Non-persuasive

254 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.7.2.1,

7.5.7.2.2,

7.5.7.2.3

Technical (1) No body pressure requirement is specified. (2)

Test is for manual chokes, but is found under 7.5.7

Drilling Choke and Actuator Assembly.

Replace 7.5.7.2.1 with: "7.5.7.2.1 Operating

torque test - manually actuated drlling chokes:

The breakaway and running torque for

manually actuated chokes shall be measured

and documented at maximum rated working

pressure."

Duplicate EW comment 255

255 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.7.2.1,

7.5.7.2.2,

7.5.7.2.3

Technical (1) No body pressure requirement is specified. (2)

Test is for manual chokes, but is found under 7.5.7

Drilling Choke and Actuator Assembly.

Replace 7.5.7.2.1 with: "7.5.7.2.1 Operating

torque test - manually actuated drlling chokes:

The breakaway and running torque for

manually actuated chokes shall be measured

and documented at maximum rated working

pressure."

Accept Change

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256 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.7.3.1 1st paragraph Technical (1) The function test of 7.5.7.3 should be required for

manually actuated, hydraulically actuated, and

electrically actuated drilling chokes. The phrase

"choke and actuator assembly" plus the test media

listed imply that it only applies to chokes with

hydraulic actuators. (2) Neither "normal position" nor

"fully stroked position" is defined, or in common use,

or obvious as to meaning for a drilling choke.

Replace 7.5.7.3.1 with: "For manually

actuated, hydraulically actuated, and

electrically actuated drilling chokes: Each

adjustable drilling choke (and actuator)

assembly shall be tested for proper operation

by cycling the choke/actuator from the

minimum-orifice position to the maximum-

orifice position, for a minimum of three min-

max-min cycles, at the maximum rated working

pressure of the choke. Test media shall be a

suitable fluid or a gas such as air or nitrogen.

- For manually actuated chokes, the

manufacturer's specified operating torque shall

not be exceeded."

- For hydraulically actuated chokes, the

manufacturer's specified operating pressure

shall not be exceeded.

- For electrically actuated chokes, the

manufacturer's specified voltage and/or

current shall not be exceeded."

Duplicate EW comment 258

257 McCaskill,

John

7.5.7.3.1 1 Editorial Grammatical error : missing preposition "for" Change to : "...to the fully stroked position for a

minimum of three cycles..."

Accept Change

258 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.7.3.1 1st paragraph Technical (1) The function test of 7.5.7.3 should be required for

manually actuated, hydraulically actuated, and

electrically actuated drilling chokes. The phrase

"choke and actuator assembly" plus the test media

listed imply that it only applies to chokes with

hydraulic actuators. (2) Neither "normal position" nor

"fully stroked position" is defined, or in common use,

or obvious as to meaning for a drilling choke.

Replace 7.5.7.3.1 with: "For manually

actuated, hydraulically actuated, and

electrically actuated drilling chokes: Each

adjustable drilling choke (and actuator)

assembly shall be tested for proper operation

by cycling the choke/actuator from the

minimum-orifice position to the maximum-

orifice position, for a minimum of three min-

max-min cycles, at the maximum rated working

pressure of the choke. Test media shall be a

suitable fluid or a gas such as air or nitrogen.

- For manually actuated chokes, the

manufacturer's specified operating torque shall

not be exceeded."

- For hydraulically actuated chokes, the

manufacturer's specified operating pressure

shall not be exceeded.

- For electrically actuated chokes, the

manufacturer's specified voltage and/or

current shall not be exceeded."

Accept Change

259 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.7.3.2 1st paragraph Technical The acceptance criterion should be for choke

operation characteristics. The given criterion of

smooth actuator operation is redundant of 7.5.6.2.2.

Replace 7.5.7.3.2 with: "The choke and

actuation mechanism shall operate smoothly,

without binding or chattering."

Duplicate EW comment 260

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260 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.7.3.2 1st paragraph Technical The acceptance criterion should be for choke

operation characteristics. The given criterion of

smooth actuator operation is redundant of 7.5.6.2.2.

Replace 7.5.7.3.2 with: "The choke and

actuation mechanism shall operate smoothly,

without binding or chattering."

Accept Change

261 Grebing,

Kent

7.5.8, 7.5.10 General The phrase "prior to leaving the manufacturer's

facility" is redundant to the phrase ""prior to shipment

from the manufacturer's facility" in 7.5.4.1. Clause

7.5.4 applies to all hydrostatic pressure testing of

7.5.5 - 7.5.13.

Delete "prior to leaving the manufacturer's

facility" from 7.5.8 & 7.5.10.

Duplicate EW comment 262

262 Wehner,

Eric

7.5.8, 7.5.10 General The phrase "prior to leaving the manufacturer's

facility" is redundant to the phrase ""prior to shipment

from the manufacturer's facility" in 7.5.4.1. Clause

7.5.4 applies to all hydrostatic pressure testing of

7.5.5 - 7.5.13.

Delete "prior to leaving the manufacturer's

facility" from 7.5.8 & 7.5.10.

Already Resolved.

263 McCaskill,

John

7.6.4 1 Editorial Consistancy of writing style

Punctuation before list . or :

Change to: "The manufacturer shall maintain

the following records:"

Non-persuasive

264 McCaskill,

John

7.6.4 g) 3 Editorial Consistancy of writing style.

Singular or plural.

Change to: "filler material types" Non-persuasive

265 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.6.4 g) Technical g) Welding process records - filler materials "type".

The word 'type' lessens the requirement and creates

confusion. Rods of the same alpha/numeric

description can hae different composition. Type also

refers to such things as rod, wire or low hydrogen.

Simply stating 'Filler material' reqires identification

inclusive of material traceability

Delete the word "type" Accept Change

266 Cherbonnie

r, David

7.6.4 h) Technical h) heat treatment records. Stating actual temperature

and times at temperature doesn't require slopes and

can be satisfied with numbers when a chart is more

accurate.

=- All heat treatment performed as prescribed

in applicable Welding Procedures shall be

chart recorded

- Part number and serial number of

components receiving the heat treatment shall

be recorded on the chart.

Action item David C to address where in

document this should be covered.

267 Baniak,

Edmund

8.1 Technical There is always the concern that a manufacturer of

equipment using components made to another spec

will change some of the marking from that spec.

Add a sentence to the end of 8.1, "Markings

on equipment maufactured under a different

specification shall not be removed or

otherwise altered on that equipment."

Accept Change

268 Grebing,

Kent

8.1 2nd sentence General Second sentence is unacceptable as written: "The

API 16C identification shall be applied... only by

manufacturers who meet all the requirements of this

specification." API product specifications provide

requirements for equipment; they do not restrict who

can use the standard nor do they address

qualification of manufacturers.

Delete 2nd sentence or replace with: "The API

16C identification shall be applied only as

specified and only to equiipment that meets all

the requirements of this specification."

Duplicate EW comment 269

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269 Wehner,

Eric

8.1 2nd sentence General Second sentence is unacceptable as written: "The

API 16C identification shall be applied... only by

manufacturers who meet all the requirements of this

specification." API product specifications provide

requirements for equipment; they do not restrict who

can use the standard nor do they address

qualification of manufacturers.

Delete 2nd sentence or replace with: "The API

16C identification shall be applied only as

specified and only to equiipment that meets all

the requirements of this specification."

Deleted second sentence. Did not

replace with proposed language.

270 Baniak,

Edmund

8.2 Technical referencing something that is "allowed" should be

driven by a requirement. Allowing something does

not mandate it, so using a requriement reference is

still OK

Change to:

..."use of sharp "V" stamping shall be allowed."

Accept Change

271 Baniak,

Edmund

8.3 Technical referencing something that is not "allowed" should be

driven by a requirement. Allowing something does

not mandate it, so using a requriement reference is

still OK

Change is allowed and is not allowed to, shall

be allowed and shall not be allowed.

Modified first sentence and removed

second sentence.

272 Grebing,

Kent

8.3 1st sentence Technical There are accepted methods of low-stress marking

not included in the three methods listed, and no

allowance is made for new technology.

Replace first sentence with: "For identification

on high stress areas, low-stress marking

methods shall be used, e.g., dot stamp,

vibratory scribe, round “V” stamp, photo-

etching."

Duplicate EW comment 274

273 Grebing,

Kent

8.3 2nd sentence Technical The second sentence is unnecessary and insufficient

for the intended purpose. It is contrary to industry

practice. The use of sharp-vee stamping on high-

stress areas, even with stress relief heat treat, is not

accepted by end users and not practiced by

manufacturers. With no specific stress relief

procedure incuded, compliance would be impossible

to verify.

Delete 2nd sentence. Duplicate EW comment 275

274 Wehner,

Eric

8.3 1st sentence Technical There are accepted methods of low-stress marking

not included in the three methods listed, and no

allowance is made for new technology.

Replace first sentence with: "For identification

on high stress areas, low-stress marking

methods shall be used, e.g., dot stamp,

vibratory scribe, round “V” stamp, photo-

etching."

Accept Change

275 Wehner,

Eric

8.3 2nd sentence Technical The second sentence is unnecessary and insufficient

for the intended purpose. It is contrary to industry

practice. The use of sharp-vee stamping on high-

stress areas, even with stress relief heat treat, is not

accepted by end users and not practiced by

manufacturers. With no specific stress relief

procedure incuded, compliance would be impossible

to verify.

Delete 2nd sentence. Accept Change

276 McCaskill,

John

8.4 Table 26,

Marking

Editorial Orifice area is not used by any manufacturer, nor is it

understood by rig personnel. An equivalent orifice

measurement should be used, so that all types of

choke can be covered.

Orifice Area Size Eric will submit by end of week.

277 Nagy, Tibor 8.4 Table 26 Editorial Marking of FSL level for flexible C&K lines is

required in section 10.10.10, but not in Table 26

Add marking of FSL level of flexible C&K lines

to Table 26

Accept change. Added row in table 26

for FSL.

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278 Nagy, Tibor 8.4 Table 26,

Figure 8

Editorial Controversy between note "b" of Tab 26 and Fig 8.

For maximum safety clamp distance note "b" gives 3

ft, Fig 8 gives 1,5 ft.

Change Figure 8 to "Max 3ft", regarding safety

clamp distance

Already been resolved. Will revise figure

in document. Roland will handle

279 Frazelle,

Andy

8.5 Table 26 Technical Articulated lines, swivel joints, unions, rigid piping,

buffer chamber - no assembly serial number or

pressure rating required?

Suggest pressure rating and serial number are

marked on equipment as a minimum.

Resolved

280 Baniak,

Edmund

9.1.7 Technical Ring joint gaskets are not manufactured in this

specification so why are there requriements tagged

to shipping. This may be a "purchasing" requirement

if the company is buying RJGs, but the requirement

is misplaced here.

Delete "and shipping" from 9.1.7 Non-persuasive

281 Grebing,

Kent

10.1 2nd sentence Editorial 10.1 is general introduction to specific requirements

for all equipment. The second sentence is specific to

choke and kill manifolds and does not belong in 10.1.

Move 2nd sentence of 10.1 to 10.14.2. Duplicate EW comment 282

282 Wehner,

Eric

10.1 2nd sentence Editorial 10.1 is general introduction to specific requirements

for all equipment. The second sentence is specific to

choke and kill manifolds and does not belong in 10.1.

Move 2nd sentence of 10.1 to 10.14.2. Accept Change

283 Grebing,

Kent

10.2 1st paragraph Technical Last sentence, "Type 6B may also be used as a

threaded flange," is not applicable to 10.2 or to the

scope of 16C. API 6B threaded flanges are loose

connectors only; 6A does not allow for integral or

welding-end flanges to be threaded. Clause 10.2

covers integral end connections used on 16C

equipment.

Delete "Type 6B may also be used as a

threaded flange."

Duplicate EW comment 287

284 Grebing,

Kent

10.2 1st paragraph Editorial First sentence is awkwardly worded, such that

intended requirement is not clear.

Replace first sentence with:

"End and outlet connections used on

equipment covered by this specification shall

be one or more of the following:

- 6B and 6BX flanged connectors as specified

in API 6A,

- 6B and 6BX studded connectors as specified

in API 6A,

- 16B and 16BX clamp-hub connectors as

specified in API 16A,

- other end connectors (OECs) as specified in

API 6A."

Duplicate EW comment 288

285 McCaskill,

John

10.2 1 Editorial Defragmented sentence Chnage : "End and outlet connection, Type 6B

and 6BX, as defined in API 6A, 16BX and 16A

and other connections as defined herein and

in API 6A, may be used as ...."

Resolved with #290

286 McCaskill,

John

10.2 1 General Referencing types "type 6B, 6BX and segmented" Non-persuasive

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287 Wehner,

Eric

10.2 1st paragraph Technical Last sentence, "Type 6B may also be used as a

threaded flange," is not applicable to 10.2 or to the

scope of 16C. API 6B threaded flanges are loose

connectors only; 6A does not allow for integral or

welding-end flanges to be threaded. Clause 10.2

covers integral end connections used on 16C

equipment.

Delete "Type 6B may also be used as a

threaded flange."

Accept Change

288 Wehner,

Eric

10.2 1st paragraph Editorial First sentence is awkwardly worded, such that

intended requirement is not clear.

Replace first sentence with:

"End and outlet connections used on

equipment covered by this specification shall

be one or more of the following:

- 6B and 6BX flanged connectors as specified

in API 6A,

- 6B and 6BX studded connectors as specified

in API 6A,

- 16B and 16BX clamp-hub connectors as

specified in API 16A,

- other end connectors (OECs) as specified in

API 6A."

Already resolved

289 Grebing,

Kent

10.3.1 1st paragraph Editorial " are designed for…" is informative, not normative as

worded, i.e., conveys no requirements.

Replace with: "API 16C shall be used with

pressure ratings listed in Table 1, Table 2 and

Table 3. API 16BX connectors shall be used

with pressure ratings listed in API 16A."

Duplicate EW comment 291

290 McCaskill,

John

10.3.1 1 Editorial Consistancy of style of writing. When listing tables,

figures etc there is no need to say: "table1, table 2,

table 3, ...." (see section 4.1.1)

Tables 1, 2, and 3 Non-persuasive

291 Wehner,

Eric

10.3.1 1st paragraph Editorial " are designed for…" is informative, not normative as

worded, i.e., conveys no requirements.

Replace with: "API 16C connectors shall be

used with pressure ratings listed in Table 1,

Table 2 and Table 3. API 16BX connectors

shall be used with pressure ratings listed in

API 16A."

Accept change as modified

292 Grebing,

Kent

10.3.1, 10.3.2,

10.3.3

Editorial (1) 10.3.2 and 10.3.3 are not related to the subject of

10.3, rated working pressure of end connections.The

requirements for OECs and corrosion-resistant ring

grooves are not dependent on pressure rating. (2)

10.3 relates only to end connections and should be

included in 10.2 to be consistent with the remainder

of Clause 10.

Restructure 10.2 and 10.3 as follows:

- Make current 10.2 clause 10.2.1: General.

- Make current 10.3.1 clause 10.2.2: Pressure

Ratings.

- Make current 10.3.2 clause 10.2.3: Other

End Connectors.

- Make current 10.3.3 clause 10.2.4: Corrosion-

Resistant Ring Grooves.

- Renumber clauses 10.4 - 10.14 accordingly

OR change 10.14 to 10.3 and leave 10.4 -

10.13 as numbered.

Duplicate EW comment 293

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293 Wehner,

Eric

10.3.1, 10.3.2,

10.3.3

Editorial (1) 10.3.2 and 10.3.3 are not related to the subject of

10.3, rated working pressure of end connections.The

requirements for OECs and corrosion-resistant ring

grooves are not dependent on pressure rating. (2)

10.3 relates only to end connections and should be

included in 10.2 to be consistent with the remainder

of Clause 10.

Restructure 10.2 and 10.3 as follows:

- Make current 10.2 clause 10.2.1: General.

- Make current 10.3.1 clause 10.2.2: Pressure

Ratings.

- Make current 10.3.2 clause 10.2.3: Other

End Connectors.

- Make current 10.3.3 clause 10.2.4: Corrosion-

Resistant Ring Grooves.

- Renumber clauses 10.4 - 10.14 accordingly

OR change 10.14 to 10.3 and leave 10.4 -

10.13 as numbered.

Accept change with modifications

294 Grebing,

Kent

10.3.2 1st paragraph Editorial "Refer to API 6A" is not a normative statement, i.e.,

conveys no requirements.

Replace 10.3.2 with: "Other end connectors,

including union connectors, shall comply with

API 6A requirements for Other end

connectors."

Duplicate EW comment 295

295 Wehner,

Eric

10.3.2 1st paragraph Editorial "Refer to API 6A" is not a normative statement, i.e.,

conveys no requirements.

Replace 10.3.2 with: "Other end connectors,

including union connectors, shall comply with

API 6A requirements for Other end

connectors."

Accept change with modification

(conform verus comply)

296 McCaskill,

John

10.3.3 1 General Referencing types "type 6B, 6BX and segmented" Non-persuasive

297 Nagy, Tibor 10.4.4 Editorial Reference to Table 22 is a mistake, the correct one

is Table 23

Change reference to Table 23 Accept Change

298 Grebing,

Kent

10.4.5 1st paragraph Editorial are to be supplied with… is not recommended

normative language.

Replace with: "Unions shall be supplied with

butt weld or flanged ends. Line pipe threads

are not an acceptable end connections."

Duplicate EW comment 299

299 Wehner,

Eric

10.4.5 1st paragraph Editorial are to be supplied with… is not recommended

normative language.

Replace with: "Unions shall be supplied with

butt weld or flanged ends. Line pipe threads

are not an acceptable end connections."

Accept change with modification to

second sentence.

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300 Grebing,

Kent

10.5.2 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "are used with…" is informative, not normative as

worded, i.e., conveys no requirements. (2) The

statement "Types R and RX gaskets are

interchangeable in Type R ring grooves," is not

always accurate for use in manifolds with multiple

parallel runs, since the flange stand-off is different.

Replace all of 10.5.2 with the following:

"API Type R, RX, and BX ring-joint gaskets

shall be used in API flanged, studded and

hubbed connections.

• Type 6B flanged and studded connections

with Type R ring grooves shall be assembled

with either Type R or Type RX ring gaskets

NOTE Type 6B flanged and studded

connections do not make up face-to-face.

Both Type R and Type RX ring gaskets can be

used in Type R ring grooves, but the stand-off

between mating flange faces will be

significantly larger with RX gaskets.

• Type 16B hubbed connections with Type SR

ring grooves shall be assembled with Type RX

ring gaskets only.

• Type 6BX flanged and studded connections

with Type BX ring grooves shall be assembled

with Type BX ring gaskets only.

• Type 16BX hubbed connections with Type

BX ring grooves shall be assembled with Type

bX ring gaskets only."

Duplicate EW comment 301

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301 Wehner,

Eric

10.5.2 1st paragraph Editorial (1) "are used with…" is informative, not normative as

worded, i.e., conveys no requirements. (2) The

statement "Types R and RX gaskets are

interchangeable in Type R ring grooves," is not

always accurate for use in manifolds with multiple

parallel runs, since the flange stand-off is different.

Replace all of 10.5.2 with the following:

"API Type R, RX, and BX ring-joint gaskets

shall be used in API flanged, studded and

hubbed connections.

• Type 6B flanged and studded connections

with Type R ring grooves shall be assembled

with either Type R or Type RX ring gaskets

NOTE Type 6B flanged and studded

connections do not make up face-to-face.

Both Type R and Type RX ring gaskets can be

used in Type R ring grooves, but the stand-off

between mating flange faces will be larger with

RX gaskets.

• Type 16B hubbed connections with Type SR

ring grooves shall be assembled with Type RX

ring gaskets only.

• Type 6BX flanged and studded connections

with Type BX ring grooves shall be assembled

with Type BX ring gaskets only.

• Type 16BX hubbed connections with Type

BX ring grooves shall be assembled with Type

bX ring gaskets only."

Accept change with modification.

302 Grebing,

Kent

10.6 1st paragraph Editorial "The requirements for studs and nuts are found in

API 6A" is not clearly normative ad worded.

Replace all of 10.6 with: "Studs and nuts used

in API 6B and 6BX flanged and studded end

connnections shall comply with.the

requirements for studs and nuts in API 6A."

Duplicate EW comment 303

303 Wehner,

Eric

10.6 1st paragraph Editorial "The requirements for studs and nuts are found in

API 6A" is not clearly normative as worded.

Replace all of 10.6 with: "Studs and nuts used

in API 6B and 6BX flanged and studded end

connnections shall comply with.the

requirements for studs and nuts in API 6A."

Accept Change

304 Grebing,

Kent

10.7.3 1st sentence Editorial Variable orifice types are incompletely described. Revise first sentence to read: "Adjustable

drilling chokes have an externally-controlled

variable-area orifice(s) such as a rotary disc,

needle and seat, plug and cage, or external

sleeve and cage.

Duplicate EW comment 306

305 Grebing,

Kent

10.7.3 Last two

sentences

Technical Indicating mechanism should indicate equivalent

orifice size, not area, to be consistent with revision to

10.7.6 and API 6A.

Revise last two sentences to read: "Manually

adjustable drilling chokes shall be equipped

with a visible indicating mechanism, showing

percent open or closed and equivalent orifice

diameter. Remotely adjustable drilling chokes

shall be equipped with a remote indicating

means for equivalent orifice diameter."

Duplicate EW comment 307

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306 Wehner,

Eric

10.7.3 1st sentence Editorial Variable orifice types are incompletely described. Revise first sentence to read: "Adjustable

drilling chokes have an externally-controlled

variable-area orifice(s) such as a rotary disc,

needle and seat, plug and cage, or external

sleeve and cage.

Eric will submit by end of week.

307 Wehner,

Eric

10.7.3 Last two

sentences

Technical Indicating mechanism should indicate equivalent

orifice size, not area, to be consistent with revision to

10.7.6 and API 6A.

Revise last two sentences to read: "Manually

adjustable drilling chokes shall be equipped

with a visible indicating mechanism, showing

percent open or closed. Remotely adjustable

drilling chokes shall be equipped with a remote

indicating means for equivalent orifice

diameter."

Accept edited change

308 Grebing,

Kent

10.7.5 1st paragraph Technical Requirement for pressure venting incorrectly

assumes that all adjustable chokes have bonnets,

not threaded caps, and that all positive chokes have

threaded caps, not bonnets.

Replace 10.7.5 with: "Adjustable and positive

drilling chokes shall be designed to vent

trapped pressure prior to disengaging the

retention means of the body-to-bonnet or body-

to-cap connection."

Duplicate EW comment 309

309 Wehner,

Eric

10.7.5 1st paragraph Technical Requirement for pressure venting incorrectly

assumes that all adjustable chokes have bonnets,

not threaded caps, and that all positive chokes have

threaded caps, not bonnets.

Replace 10.7.5 with: "Adjustable and positive

drilling chokes shall be designed to vent

trapped pressure prior to disengaging the

retention means of the body-to-bonnet or body-

to-cap connection."

Accept Change 4/15

310 McCaskill,

John

10.7.6 Editorial Orifice area is not used by any manufacturer, nor is it

understood by rig personnel. An equivalent orifice

measurement should be used, so that all types of

chokes can be covered.

10.7.6  Size Designation

The nominal size designation of the drilling

choke shall be the inlet connection size, in in.,

followed by the maximum orifice area size, in

square in., where orifice size is:

a)      for a positive drilling choke, the flow bore

diameter of the bean, in inches or in sixty-

fourths (1/64’s) of an inch.

b)      For an adjustable drilling choke with a

single circular orifice, the flow bore diameter of

the seat, in inches.

c)      For an adjustable drilling choke with

multiple and/or non-circular orifice(s), the

equivalent diameter of a circle with the same

total area, in inches.

Accept change 4/15

311 Grebing,

Kent

10.7.6 1st paragraph Technical The size is not necessarily an actual orifice diameter.

In most cases, it is the diameter of a theoretical

circular orifice with the same area as the total actual

orifice area of the choke trim.

Revise 10.7.6 to read: "The nominal size

designation of the drilling choke shall be the

inlet connection size in inches, followed by the

maximum orifice diameter, in inches, that is

equivalent in area to the total maximum orifice

area of the choke trim."

Duplicate EW comment 312

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312 Wehner,

Eric

10.7.6 1st paragraph Technical The size is not necessarily an actual orifice diameter.

In most cases, it is the diameter of a theoretical

circular orifice with the same area as the total actual

orifice area of the choke trim.

Revise 10.7.6 to read: "The nominal size

designation of the drilling choke shall be the

inlet connection size in inches, followed by the

maximum orifice diameter, in inches, that is

equivalent in area to the total maximum orifice

area of the choke trim."

Accept Change

313 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.8.3.1 Pressure

Rating

Technical Now that we are separateing hydraulic and electric

actuators it seems we're talking about torque not

pressure. If so this needs to be reworded

10.8.3.1 Operating Force

Actuator force applied to the operator must be

sufficient to overcome maximum rated

pressure of the choke

Non-persuasive

314 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.8.3.1 Pressure

Rating

Technical Actuator components exposed to well fluid or well

pressure shall be etc.

1. Electric actuators will not have exposure.

2. I believe the intent is "well bore" fluid meaning fluid

which has been exposed to open hole, i.e. formation

Actuator components which may be exposed

to well bore fluids shall be designed in

accordance with.

Non-persuasive

315 Grebing,

Kent

10.8.3.1 2nd paragraph Technical "Actuator components exposed to well fluid or well

pressure shall be designed in accordance with 4.3."

Since 16C hydraulic actuators do not include

retained fluid powered actuators, any components

exposed to well fluids are probably correctly

considered choke components. All requirements

including material, welding, and quality apply, not just

design.

Add to 2nd paragraph: "If the actuator includes

associated parts of the choke (bonnet, stem,

seals), these parts shall meet all requirements

applicable to the corresponding choke parts."

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316 Wehner,

Eric

10.8.3.1 2nd paragraph Technical "Actuator components exposed to well fluid or well

pressure shall be designed in accordance with 4.3."

Since 16C hydraulic actuators do not include

retained fluid powered actuators, any components

exposed to well fluids are probably correctly

considered choke components. All requirements

including material, welding, and quality apply, not just

design.

Add to 2nd paragraph: "If the actuator includes

associated parts of the choke (bonnet, stem,

seals), these parts shall meet all requirements

applicable to the corresponding choke parts."

Non-persuasive

317 Grebing,

Kent

10.8.3.4 1st paragraph Technical The means to prevent choke internal fluid/pressure

from entering the actuator is usually part of the choke

design, not the actuator design.

Revise 10.8.3.4 to read: "Remote actuated

chokes shall be designed to prevent pressure

buildup or fluid contamination within the

actuator housing or cylinder due to leakage

from the choke."

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318 Wehner,

Eric

10.8.3.4 1st paragraph Technical The means to prevent choke internal fluid/pressure

from entering the actuator is usually part of the choke

design, not the actuator design.

Revise 10.8.3.4 to read: "Remote actuated

chokes shall be designed to prevent pressure

buildup or fluid contamination within the

actuator housing or cylinder due to leakage

from the choke."

Non-persuasive

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319 Grebing,

Kent

10.9 complete

clause 10.9

Editorial Clause 10.9 is titled "Rigid choke and kill lines," but

10.9.2 & 10.9.3 provide requirements only for "rigid

piping." To be consistent with articulated and flexiblle

lines, rigid lines should include connectors. If 16C

rigid lines do not include end connnectors, then the

term should be deleted and "rigid piping" used

throughout. There is a need to address rigid piping

with union end connectors, but 16C does not fill that

need as written.

(1) Add new subclause 10.9.4 End connectors:

"End connectors shall meet the requirements

of 10.2 or 10.3. Pipe threads are not

acceptable end connections.' (2) Add new

subclause 10.9.5 marking: "Rigid choke and

kill lines shall be marked in accordance with

Clause 8."

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320 Wehner,

Eric

10.9 complete

clause 10.9

Editorial Clause 10.9 is titled "Rigid choke and kill lines," but

10.9.2 & 10.9.3 provide requirements only for "rigid

piping." To be consistent with articulated and flexiblle

lines, rigid lines should include connectors. If 16C

rigid lines do not include end connnectors, then the

term should be deleted and "rigid piping" used

throughout. There is a need to address rigid piping

with union end connectors, but 16C does not fill that

need as written.

(1) Add new subclause 10.9.4 End connectors:

"End connectors shall meet the requirements

of 10.2 or 10.3. Pipe threads are not

acceptable end connections.' (2) Add new

subclause 10.9.5 marking: "Rigid choke and

kill lines shall be marked in accordance with

Clause 8."

Bob and Ken will address end of week.

321 Grebing,

Kent

10.9.1 Editorial "design thickness" is not a commonly used term, and

is unclear.

Replace "The design thickness for a rated

working pressure…." with 'The pipe wall

thickness for a rated working pressure…'

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322 Wehner,

Eric

10.9.1 Editorial "design thickness" is not a commonly used term, and

is unclear.

Replace "The design thickness for a rated

working pressure…." with 'The pipe wall

thickness for a rated working pressure…'

Accept Change

323 Chance,

Maynard

10.9.1 Editorial Is: "ASME 31.3 Chapter 9…"

typo, missing a 'B'

"...ASME B31.3 Chapter 9…" Accept Change

324 Young,

Kenneth

10.9.1 Editorial Missing word "or" For rated working pressures above 10,000 psi,

ASME 31.3 Chapter 9 or ASME BPVC ….;

Accept Change

325 Grebing,

Kent

10.9.3 Editorial 10.9.3 refers to quality requirements for rigid piping,

but not to hydrostatic test requirements for rigid

choke and kill lines in Table 24 and 7.5.11. Rigid

piping can't be hydrostatically tested safely without

end connectors.

Add second sentence to 10.9.3: "Rigid choke

and kill lines shall meet quallity requirements

of 7.5 for assembled equipment, including

hydrostatic testing in accordance with Table

24."

Duplicate EW comment 325

326 Wehner,

Eric

10.9.3 Editorial 10.9.3 refers to quality requirements for rigid piping,

but not to hydrostatic test requirements for rigid

choke and kill lines in Table 24 and 7.5.11. Rigid

piping can't be hydrostatically tested safely without

end connectors.

Add second sentence to 10.9.3: "Rigid choke

and kill lines shall meet quallity requirements

of 7.5 for assembled equipment, including

hydrostatic testing in accordance with Table

24."

Accept Change

327 Baniak,

Edmund

10.10.1 Editorial Use of the word "are" implies a requirement (or could

be read that way). Recommend replacing that word

with "may be"

Change to:

Flexible choke and kill lines may be

employeed...

and

The may be employed also...

Accept Change

328 Tidrick,

Keith

10.10.10 Table 29 Editorial For "FSL0" table reads in part: "...requirements in

10.10, A.12.1, A.12.3, and A.12.3"

For "FSL0" table should read in replacement:

"...requirements in 10.10, A.12.1, A.12.2 and

A.12.3"

Accept Change

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329 Twiddy,

Daniel

10.10.10 Table 29 Editorial Incorrect as written and inconsistent with text in

10.10.10

Replace definition with: “Includes all design,

material and design validation test

requirements in 10.10 and A.12.1 through

A.12.3”

Accept Change

330 Twiddy,

Daniel

10.10.10 Editorial Remove quotation marks after last word in paragraph

- typo

Remove quotation marks after last word in

paragraph

Accept Change

331 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.10.10 Table 29 Editorial Since 10.10 and A.12.1 through A.12.3 are in

separate documents it should be as originally stated.

If the word through is deemed offensive it should be

written correctly

Material as used is confusing

FSL 0 Includes all design parameters,

material specifications and design validation

test requirements presented in 10.10 and

A.12.1, A12.2 and A.12.3

Accept Change

332 Nagy, Tibor 10.10.10 Table 29 Editorial A 12.3 is referred twice Change to A 12.1, A 12.2 and A 12.3 Accept Change

333 Nagy, Tibor 10.10.3 Table 28 Technical Usual 5 000 psi end connectors are not designed to

3:1 safety factor, thus safety factor may be reduced

to 2.25, just like for the higher pressure lines

Change 15 000 psi (103,5 Mpa) to 11 250 psi

(77.6 Mpa)

Accept Change

334 Frazelle,

Andy

10.11.1 all Technical The 3rd sentence of this paragraph discusses

required volume of the system, which is a capacity.

Section 10.11.2 is titled 'Capacity'.

Move the text discussing volume to 10.11.2 Accept Change

335 Frazelle,

Andy

10.11.2 all Technical This sentence discusses closing times which is a

design requirement.

Move this text to section 10.11.1 which is titled

'Design Criteria'

Accept Change

336 Stewart,

Chris

10.11.4 No. 1 Technical Temperatrue range is too small for the application of

this equipment

Change temperature range to -20F to 180F. Non-persuasive

337 Nagy, Tibor 10.11.4 Paragraph 1 Editorial References to 4.5.2 and 4.5.3 are not correct Change reference to 4.1.2 and 4.1.3 Accept Change

338 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.12.1 Articulation Technical An Articulated assembly, as seen when stored,

consists of 4 components but these are separate.

Each component will be monogramed and should

have serial number and indication of MWP.

Articulated Choke & Kill Line components

consist of

a.) Straight pup joints with male and female

union.

B.) Swivel joint with two long radius El's and

male and female wing union

Refer to articulated TG

339 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.12.1 Flowline

composition

Technical "The flow line shall consist of no less than seven

swivel joints". What is the justification for this?

Delete the requirement. Refer to articulated TG

340 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.12.1 Configuration Technical "For complete freedom of movement the

configuration of the flowline shall follow the

manufactureer's written specification"

1. Assembley of flowline components is outside the

juridiction of this specification.

Configuration will be dependent on spatial and

dynamic parameters on a case by case basis.

Delete the requirement. Refer to articulated TG

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341 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.12.1 Articulated

Assembly

Editorial This falls under API S 53. "For Articulated line

assemblies, consult with the manufacture's written

specifications to determine the degree of relative mo

vement allowable between end points.

This is operational. If we must address it, just

refer to API 53, 8.3.1.a.3 or 10.2.1.h.3

Refer to articulated TG

342 Frazelle,

Andy

10.12.1 all Technical Do not see the value in this requirement. Each swivel

is potential failure point. We are requiring at least 7.

Remove this from the document Refer to articulated TG

343 Frazelle,

Andy

10.12.1 Figure 10 Editorial Text states minimum of seven swivel elements are

required, drawing shows six swivel elements

Drawing and text should match to avoid

confusion.

Refer to articulated TG

344 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.12.2 Marking Technical "Articulated lines conformint to this specification shall

be marked with the information at the locations

detailed in Table 25."

1. Table 25 describes the hydrostaic test pressure for

a given pressure rating. It dos not describe locations

or markings.

2. Marking should include, pressure rting, union

identification and Monogram.

Articulated joints are to be marked with

Pressure Rating and Unior type or part number

Refer to articulated TG

345 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.13.5 Marking Technical Table 25 only refers to Hydrostatic Test Pressure not

marking.

Buffer Chamber is to marked with identifying

part number, serial number and maximum

working pressure. It is recommended a

Manufacturer's data plate be provided with full

description inclusive of outle type/sizing, job

number and date of manufacture.

Should be Table 26. Add note C in table

requiring S/N for buffer chambers

346 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.14 C&K Manifold

Assy

Technical 1. This specification is for "Equipment"

2. The infomatoin in this section is redundant and

confusing. E.g. What specification covers actuators?

I can only ifnd reference to Chokes PSL 1,2,3,3G & 4

in the Composite list and it applies to facilities without

16C.

3. The only value this section may have that is not

elsewher in this specification is data book

requirements for C&K Manifold Assemblys

Either delete this section in its entirity or insert,

"Manifolds manufactuired in accordance with

this Specification shall comply with the

following

10.14.1 A Manufactures Data Plate is to be

attached providing, Manufactures name, API

Monogram, pressure ratings, service , date of

manufacture, Model number, job number and

Serial Number.

Data Book is to contain individual sections for

each component as per reqirements of 7.6 of

this specification

Non-persuasive

347 Baniak,

Edmund

10.14.1 General Inserted a definiton from API 53. It is fine to steal

definitions, but they need to be kept with other

definitions. This should be in the definition section.

Remove second sentence of 10.14.1 and turn

into a definition in Section 3.

Accept Change

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348 Grebing,

Kent

10.14.1 1st paragraph Editorial "Choke lines" and "kill lines" as shown and defined in

53 are different from "choke and kill lines" in 16C.

Revise last sentence to read: "Requirements

of this section for choke and kill manifolds can

also be applied to assemblies identified in API

53 as choke lines, choke manifolds, kill lines,

and kill manifolds."

Duplicate EW comment 349

349 Wehner,

Eric

10.14.1 1st paragraph Editorial "Choke lines" and "kill lines" as shown and defined in

53 are different from "choke and kill lines" in 16C.

Revise last sentence to read: "Requirements

of this section for choke and kill manifolds can

also be applied to assemblies identified in API

53 as choke lines, choke manifolds, kill lines,

and kill manifolds."

Resolved with #347

350 Baniak,

Edmund

10.14.2 Technical I question the value (need) for the last sentence and

a)-d). You pretty much cover everything possible

configuration source, so this becomes a requirement

of the obvious.

Delete last sentence, "Manifold

configuration...a), b), c) d)."

Non-persuasive

351 Frazelle,

Andy

10.14.3 1st para Technical The second sentence requires a full bore valve and

the also prohibits the use of reduced-opening valves.

These are redundant

Delete the redundancy Accept Change

352 Frazelle,

Andy

10.14.3 1st para Technical The text requires that actuated valves and chokes be

fail in place design. What is fail in place for a choke;

open or closed? Seems this could be situationally

dependent.

Remove requirement that chokes be fail in

place

non-persuasive

353 Chance,

Maynard

10.14.4 Note Editorial Is: "'Downstream' is assumed to be away…"

leave out the assumption

:"'Downstream' is away…" Accept Change

354 Stewart,

Chris

10.14.4 Notes Editorial Notes should be numbered NOTE 1, NOTE 2 Resolved with #355

355 Stewart,

Chris

10.14.4 Last note Technical This note is essentially a requirement and should be

listed in the body of the section not in a note.

Accept Change, added 10.14.4.3

356 Frazelle,

Andy

10.14.4 first line and

third line

requirements

Technical This language does not match the current diagrams

in Annex C for 2K and 5K BOP systems - no down

stream valves show behind chokws

Change Annec C Choke BOP diagrams to

reflect current API Std 53 diagrams

Eric W will advise drawings to use

357 Frazelle,

Andy

10.15 Technical This should also adrress articulated choke and kill

lines if supplied by OEM choke manufacturer

Add to 10.12 or 10.15 articulated choke and

kill line equipment manual containing -

equuipment specifications, operation and

installation, seal information, maintenece and

testing, diassembly and assymbly information,

part information, storadge information.

Refer to Articulated Line TG for review

358 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.15 Operating

Manual

Editorial Not descriptive. The manual also requires

maintenance information

10.15 Operating and maintenance Manual Accept change

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359 Cherbonnie

r, David

10.15.1 equipment list Editorial 1. The manual should be provided not made availble

2. By being too definitve we run the risk of quipment

not being covered.

Equipment manufactured in accordance with

this Specification is to be provided with

documentatin describing operational

requirements, maintenance instruction, and

traceablity documentation as required by

section 7.6.

Accept change

360 Baniak,

Edmund

10.15.2 Editorial 10.15.2 b) and c) does not say anything of value.

The requirement is not specific enough.

You need to say what physical data are

required and what specific seal information is

needed.

Defined b) and leaving c) alone.

361 Grebing,

Kent

10.15.2 bullets (a) - (g) General The list of content for manuals should not facilitate

interpretation that equipment manufacturers are

required to supply instructional information for which

they cannot accept responsibility, including:

- well control procedures,

- proprietary seal data,

- testing prescribed by regulation and/or other

API/industry publications,

- disassembly or asssembly information for repairs

the manufacturer considers not safe or appropriate

for users or third parties to perform.

Revise 10.15.2 to read: "The operating manual

shall contain the following information

(excluding proprietary data and procedures,

and operational requirements dictated by

regulation or other industry programs and

publications):

a) instructions for typical installation and

normal operation;

b) physical data (outside dimensions, weight,

center of gravity);

c) ordering information for recommended

spare parts and seals;

d) maintenance and testing information;

e) disassembly/assembly instructions for user-

serviceable repairs;

f) recommended preparation for long-term

storage."

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362 Wehner,

Eric

10.15.2 bullets (a) - (g) General The list of content for manuals should avoid implying

that equipment manufacturers are required to supply

instructional information for which they cannot accept

responsibility, including:

- well control procedures,

- proprietary seal data,

- testing prescribed by regulation and/or other

API/industry publications,

- disassembly or asssembly information for repairs

the manufacturer considers not safe or appropriate

for users or third parties to perform.

Revise 10.15.2 to read: "The operating manual

shall contain the following information :

a) instructions for typical installation and

normal operation;

b) physical data (outside dimensions, weight,

center of gravity);

c) ordering information for recommended

spare parts and seals;

d) maintenance and testing information;

e) disassembly/assembly instructions for user-

serviceable repairs;

f) recommended preparation for long-term

storage."

Accept Change with modification

363 Frazelle,

Andy

Annex A all General As per API guidance, Annex A should be for

monogramming requirements

Move Annex H to Annex A Accept Change

364 Frazelle,

Andy

Annex A Various Editorial Room Temperature was removed from Table 1;

should it still be used here?

Consider need to change Non-persuasive

365 Mills,

Darren

Annex A Paragraph General Consider adding a documentation section similar to

API 6A Annex F.1.15

Accept Change 4/15

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366 Baniak,

Edmund

A.2.2 Technical This may be a philosophical issue, but A.2.2 seems

to make this entire section normative. You claim you

do not need to follow the requirements as long as

you meet the intended outcome. So it is normative.

Either change Annex A to "informative" or

delete A.2.2

Accept Change 4/15. in addition, altered

4.5.1. and removed 4.5.2

367 Larson, Eric A.5.1 1 Editorial reference to section 1.2.1 has been deleted. remove reference to 1.2.1, replace with

Section 1.

Accept Change 4/15

368 Mills,

Darren

A.5.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial ... equipment listed in 1.2.1 to verify... ... equipment listed in Section 1 to verify... Resolved #367

369 Frazelle,

Andy

A.5.5 Editorial Text states - the manufacturers published

recommended maintenance proceduce may be used

on equipment

suggest replace 'may' with 'shall' non-persuasive

370 Mills,

Darren

A.7.2.2.3.5 Paragraph 1 Editorial ...(see Table 1, 2 and 3)... ...(see Table 2, 3 and 4)... Accept Change

371 Nagy, Tibor A.7.2.2.3.5 Editorial The referred Table 1 is not relevant for this section. Change the referred section to the following:

see Tables 2, 3 and 4.

Resolved #370

372 Mills,

Darren

A.7.2.2.4 Paragraph 1 Editorial The temperature range verified by... The temperature range validated by... Accept Change 4/15

373 Mills,

Darren

A.7.4.2 Paragraph Technical When Gas testing is conducted the leakage

acceptance criteria should be defined.

Reference API 6A Table F.1 Accepted with modifications.

374 Nagy, Tibor A.9.3 Table A.1 Editorial The table A.1 is in the section A.9.3. Table A.1 should be in the section A.9.4.2. Accepted

375 Mills,

Darren

A.9.4.3.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial ...(see 4.5.2) ...(see 4.1.2) Accepted; now 4.1.1.

376 Mills,

Darren

A.9.4.3.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial ...(see 4.5.2) ...(see 4.1.2) Accepted; now 4.1.1.

377 Frazelle,

Andy

A.9.4.3.3 1st Technical For low pressure tests, API 53 has gone to 250-250

F

Align with API 53 for standardization Not persuasive; design validation testing

does not necessarily correspond with

field testing.

378 Frazelle,

Andy

A.9.4.3.7 1st Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Not persuasive; stabilization was

defined in 7.5.4.2

379 Grebing,

Kent

A.9.4.3.7 1st paragraph Technical Design validation is intended to represent the

service/cycle life after which the product may require

repair. A blanket acceptance criterion of zero

leakage is not consistent with that purpose and is not

reasonable for dynamic seals exposed to wear and

effects of retained fluids and temperature cycles.

Revise A.9.4.3.7 to include non-zero dynamic

seal acceptance, similar to API 6A Table F.1:

- static well bore fluid containing seals: no

leakage;

- dynamic well bore fluid containing seals: 60

cc/hr. gas, 20 cc/hr. liquid;

- static hydraulic fluid containing seals: no

leakage.

- dynamic hydraulic fluid containing seals: 20

cc/hr. liquid.

Duplicate EW comment 380

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380 Wehner,

Eric

A.9.4.3.7 1st paragraph Technical Design validation is intended to represent the

service/cycle life after which the product may require

repair. A blanket acceptance criterion of zero

leakage is not consistent with that purpose and is not

reasonable for dynamic seals exposed to wear and

effects of retained fluids and temperature cycles.

Revise A.9.4.3.7 to include non-zero dynamic

seal acceptance, similar to API 6A Table F.1:

- static well bore fluid containing seals: no

leakage;

- dynamic well bore fluid containing seals: 60

cc/hr. gas, 20 cc/hr. liquid;

- static hydraulic fluid containing seals: no

leakage.

- dynamic hydraulic fluid containing seals: 20

cc/hr. liquid.

Non-persuasive

381 Nagy, Tibor A. 12.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial There is a mistake in the following sentece: "In order

to qualify for approval, the minimum tests required

for design validation are A.12.2 through A.12.4."

Fire test (A.12.4) is not part of minimum

requirements.

Change A. 12.4 to A.12.3 Accepted

382 Nagy, Tibor A. 12.1 Paragraph 1 Technical In real life there are variations of a basic

construction, e.g. fire protection, external protection,

bend stiffener etc. can be added. It is necessary to

state, that such added elents do nor require new

prototype test.

Add to the end of the paragrapf 1: "Adding of

additional elements or changig the cover

outside of the reinforcement (e.g. fire

protection, external armoring) does not require

new validation testing."

Accepted

383 Frazelle,

Andy

A.10.2.1.1 Item #3) Technical The secondary hold period of 15 minutes does not

specify rated pressure as step #1

Add at the rated pressure Accepted with modifications.

384 Frazelle,

Andy

A.10.2.2 1st Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Not persuasive; stabilization was

defined in 7.5.4.2

385 Frazelle,

Andy

A.10.3.2 1st Technical Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Same as comment for 7.5.4.4 above Not persuasive; stabilization was

defined in 7.5.4.2

386 Mills,

Darren

A.10.4 Paragraph 6 Technical Additonally, there shall be no visible leakage during

the dynamic testing.

Additonally, there shall be no visible leakage

during the dynamic testing hold period.

Accepted

387 Frazelle,

Andy

A.11.8.3.2 item b) Editorial The and after the requirement seems out of place as

there is no c)

Remove the 'and' Accepted

388 Tidrick,

Keith

A.12.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial Recommend editing this General section to add

statement regarding applicability of testing for design

validation only, not for production lots. Then remove

similar statements in other subclauses of Section 12

as noted in subsequent comments as the

applicibality clarification is stated in clause A.12.4.

but not in clauses A.12.2, A.12.3 and A.12.5.

Propose adding the following statement to the

end of the first paragraph of Section 12.1: "The

stated flexible line design validation tests are

for design validation only and are not required

to be performed on production lots of flexible

lines."

Not persuasive; this is addressed in A.2.

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389 Nagy, Tibor A.12.2.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial The reference 4.5.2 is not correct in the 3rd

sentence.

Please change in the 3rd sentence from

reference 4.5.2 to reference 4.1.2

Accepted

390 Nagy, Tibor A.12.2.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial Please use "psi" instead of "psig" because the usual

unit in this document is "psi".

Change psig to psi Accepted

391 Nagy, Tibor A.12.2.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial There is a typo in (10.35MPa)/min. Change to (10.35 MPa/min). Accepted

392 Love,

Wayne

A.12.3 Editorial The exposure test required for flexible choke and kill

lines is biased against elastomer lined hoses.

Copper State Rubber has been manufacturing

flexible choke and kill hoses for over 30 years with a

successful track record. Other rubber components of

the BOP do not have to meet this stringent test that

is not representative of actual service conditions.

We recommend to make the long term

exposure test an optional FSL requirement or

remove the decompression requirements with

only 1 cycle of testing.

Not persuasive; the consensus of the

task gtoup is that the test should remain

as is.

393 Cherbonnie

r, David

A.12.3.1.3 Exposure Test

Requi

Technical 1. If the orignial intent was to perform expoosure

tests per lot rather than individual lengths, this

wording isn't applicable.

2. The proposed wording implies a test of one size

and rating qualifies all other sizes and ratings as long

as the design (criteria?) and construction (braided

and sleeve) is eqivilent

One length of each lot or production run must

be tested. Any flexible length made up with

fittings is to be proof tested and tagged with

name of facility, date and test data.

Remove second paragraph accidentally

retained.

394 Tidrick,

Keith

A.12.3.1.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial This statement is redundant to Section A.12.1

paragraph 1 sentence 1.

Delete current verbiage in Section A.12.3.1.3. Accepted

395 Twiddy,

Daniel

A.12.3.1.3 Technical Verification testing qualifies the size and pressure

rating of the flexible tested, together with smaller

sizes and equal or lower pressure ratings and

temperature. Using the plus or minus variation of the

proposed text: 1) is inconsistent with other flexible

verification tests (all others qualify size tested plus

equal or smaller size and pressure) in the standard,

2) is not a representative test – allowing qualification

of the next ID size up does not take into account the

larger surface area and therefore increased diffusion

that will occur during verification testing

Use orgininal text: "Successful completion of

validation testing as specified in A.12.3

qualifies the size and pressure rating of the

flexible tested, together with smaller sizes and

equal or lower pressure ratings and

temperature of equivalent design and

construction."

Accepted

396 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.1.3 Editorial This section is doubled, the old text was not deleted A.12.3.1.3 written in red in the PDF of draft 3

should stay, the old text should be deleted

Accepted

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397 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial In the 1st sentence one more parenthesis used than

expected. In this sentence the "-5%" need not to be

separated to two line.

The line shall be pressurized three separate

times to the rated working pressure (+0, -500

psi [3.45 MPa], or -5%, whichever is less) and

Accepted

398 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial In the 5th sentence use "min" instead of "minute". In

this sentence correct the last pressure value.

Change "minute" to "min". Correct 69 MPa to

6.9 MPa.

Accepted

399 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial In the 1st sentence, 3.4 Mpa is used instead of 3.45

MPa (in series 1).

Change 3.4 MPa to 3.45 MPa (series 1). Accepted

400 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.3 Paragraph 1 Editorial ±5.6°C is not between parentheses. Change it to [±5.6°C]. Accepted

401 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.3 Paragraph 2 Editorial Duration of test pressure is 30 m instead of 30 min. Change in 2nd sentence "30 m" to "30 min" Accepted

402 Nagy, Tibor A.12.3.3 Pragraph 1 General The style of using parentheses is different in

sectionsA.12.3.2 and A.12.3.3

Change to uniform style, use [] in both sections

where applicable, inside of () parentheses

Not persuasive; this style is acceptable.

403 Tidrick,

Keith

A.12.4.1.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial By adding a general design validation test

applicability statement to Section A.12.1, the

statement in this section becomes redundant.

Delete subclause statement in A.12.4.1.1

which currently reads: "The stated flexible line

fire tests are not required to be performed on

production lots of flexible lines."

Accepted; stated in A.2.

404 Tidrick,

Keith

A.12.4.1.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial This statement is redundant to Section A.12.1

paragraph 1 sentence 1.

Delete current verbiage in Section A.12.4.1.2. Accepted

405 Nagy, Tibor A.12.4.2.1 Paragraph 1 Editorial The section A.12.4.2.5 is not the end of the fire test. Change the end of the first sentence to:

A.12.4.2.2 through A.12.4.2.6.

Accepted

406 Nagy, Tibor A.12.4.2.2 Technical Only the temperature at the end of the test is defined,

during the 30 min test it is undefinied

Change the 2nd sentence to the following: The

temperature indicated by the thermocouples

during the 30 min test and at the end of the

time period shall be equal or higher than

1300F (704°C)

Accepted with modifications.

407 Grebing,

Kent

A.12.4.2.3 1st sentence Editorial "Thermocouples are to be positioned…" is not

normative language.

Revise to read: "Thermocouples shall be

positioned…"

Duplicate EW comment 408

408 Wehner,

Eric

A.12.4.2.3 1st sentence Editorial "Thermocouples are to be positioned…" is not

normative language.

Revise to read: "Thermocouples shall be

positioned…"

Accepted

409 Tidrick,

Keith

A.12.5.2 Paragraph 1 Editorial This statement is redundant to Section A.12.1

paragraph 1 sentence 1.

Delete current verbiage in Section A.12.5.2. Accepted

410 Cherbonnie

r, David

A.12.5.3 recording Technical Reults of this test must be recorded not should Replace should with shall Accept Change

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411 Cherbonnie

r, David

A.12.5.4 test simulation Technical "to simulate as closely as possible service

conditions, line heating should be from the inside."

1. Is this test to determine the maximum wellbore

fluid temperature or is it

2. to determine survivability in the event of

conflagaration in the moon pool.

If the test is to determine survivablity in fire the

heat must be a;;lied to the outside.

Non-persuasive

412 Cherbonnie

r, David

A.12.6.2 Dynamic Test Technical 1. If the swivel assemblys are as illustrated in Figure

10 seven swivel elements is not possible.

2. Since this is a component test it only needs to be

conducted on one swivel

3. The dynamnic and pressure test should require

some minimum value and be a minimum of 180

degrees after which it must pass a proof test

Dynamnic range tests shall be conducted at

rated working pressure and complete a

minimum of 629 cycles of at least 180 degrees

rotatoin. Upon compleation the swivel joint will

be hydrostatically tested to 150% of rated

working pressure.

Refer to articulated TG Meeting

413 Frazelle,

Andy

Annex C First paragraph Technical It says these configurations are taken fromm API 53 -

Figures C1-C3 do not conform with API STD 53

The wording should change to API STD 53

and reflect the correct drawings listed in API

STD 53 including the valves down strewam of

the chokes. 6.2.2.10 Choke manifold

configurations shall allow for rerouting of flow

(in the event of eroded, plugged or

malfunctioning parts) through a different

choke, without interrupting flow control. the

vlaves down stream of the choke provide total

isolation for repairs or washed out or

danmaged choke bodies.

Accepted; will include Figures 1 through

6 and Figure 9 from API 53.

414 Frazelle,

Andy

Annex G Technical This section only deals with hydraulic chokes, Need to add langauge that mirors hydraulic

choke requirements for manual chokes at the

station where that choke is operated - e.g

guage requirements, piston isolator transmitter

requirements. These requirements are

stipulated in API Std 53 - 6.2.2.18, 6.2.2.19,

amd 6.2.2.20 and subsea7.2.2.17,7.2.2.18 abd

7.2.2.19

Noted; this issue will be deferred to the

next edition.

415 Frazelle,

Andy

Annex G Technical There is no requirement placed on the use of back

up control consoles. Rather than have back up

power a back up control console is provided,

however, this is with limited instrumentation

Committee to determine the level of

instrumentation needed to consider this

console a qualified back up. For example, is

just the ability to close the choke adequate to

qualify this as in conformance or must the

back up console have the full capability of the

primary.

Noted; this issue will be deferred to the

next edition.

416 Frazelle,

Andy

Annexes Editorial All normative annexes should come before

informative, except for monogramming, as stipulated

by API

Reorganize Annexes Not persuasive; the order of the

annexes is determined by the order they

are referenced in the body of the

document.

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417 McCaskill,

John

G.2.1 e) Editorial Rig air gauge is only needed for air-over-hydraulic

operating systems, not electric-over-hydraulic or

Electrically actuated.

A gauge on the control panel for rig air or gas

pressure available to power the hydraulic

pump. Required only for air or gas-over-

hydraulic actuation systems

Accepted

418 Frazelle,

Andy

G.2.1 g 1 Technical gauges of any type may be provided with full scale

pressure lower than choke system rated pressure…..'

suggest replace 'may' with 'shall'. Not persuasive.

419 Frazelle,

Andy

G.2.1 1st Technical The first sentence reads "The control system shall

provide the following." Need to replace period with a

semicolon;

Need to replace period with a semicolon; Not persuasive.

420 Frazelle,

Andy

G.2.1 1st Technical The first sentence reads "The control system shall

provide the following." The 16C must specify if this is

per control console! Rigs are in xistence that have 2

control consoles, neither of which meet the

requirements. For example one console would meet

requirements A - E and the other A, F and G. Though

the rig meets the letter of the requirement the intent

is missed. Clarify the each must have all items

Reword the first sentence to read "Every

control console shall provide the following;"

Noted; this issue will be deferred to the

next edition.

421 McCaskill,

John

G.2.2.12 Editorial If both what are not available simultaneously? …if both SPM and Total Strokes are not

available simultaneously.

Acceepted

422 Cherbonnie

r, David

G.2.3 Emergency

Operations

Technical There's no provision for electrical backup for

electrical actuators

Critical components reqireing electrical power

shall be provided with an alternate source of

power if the primary source fails.

Non-persuasive

423 Frazelle,

Andy

G.2.3 Addition Technical Require that if a back up control console and system

is for emergencies it is fully functional as per G.2.1

see addition in the comment box Noted; this issue will be deferred to the

next edition.

424 McCaskill,

John

G.2.3.2 Editorial As written, assumes only hydraulic operation A hydraulically controlled console control

system shall have…

Accepted with modifications.

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