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“How to Never Fail
In MLM Again!”
by Robert Blackman
www.MLMMastermind.com
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MLM Mastermind by Robert Blackman
I’m going to kind of go over the Mastermind system to make
sure everybody understands how that works and how you can
implement it with whatever you’re doing and why you need to
do it and why you need to learn how to make money when
people tell you no.
More people are going to tell you no than tell you yes.
That’s just a reality. When I looked at that, it was like
tearing a $20 bill in half. I would run ads back in the old
days before the internet and it would cost me anywhere from
$10-20 apiece per lead.
Somebody would say no, and they’d go, “I don’t know how you
got my name,” or “I just lost my job,” “I need to talk to my
wife,” “I’m broke. I don’t have any money,” “My credit cards
are maxed out.”
I thought, “How in the world am I going to build a business
with broke people?” and that’s all that seemed to be
answering my ads. So I’m going to teach you today my system
and tell you what I’ve learned about 25 years.
I’ll give you a little background about myself. I grew up
in Bartlesville, Oklahoma. I grew up in a printing
manufacturing plant, which was probably a blessing in
disguise because I learned that if it was just hard work
that was required to make a lot of money, all construction
workers and pressmen would be rich.
My dad was a very hard worker and a very smart guy. We had
300 employees and three shifts around the clock. They were
great people to go bowling with or go fishing with, but when
you talked to them about making money they didn’t know
anything about it. They just knew how to spend it on a
Friday night.
There’s nothing wrong with that, but I wanted a little bit
more than that. I was the type of person who was always
looking for an opportunity, but I had no money. I couldn’t
invest in real estate. I couldn’t invest in the stock
market.
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I went to college on a baseball scholarship and got a
business degree. My dream was to come back and take over my
dad’s printing business and turn it into a multi-million-
dollar company worldwide.
I went to college, got my degree, played baseball, came
back, and dad had no intention of leaving the business. We
were two strong-headed guys. My dad was 6’4” and weighed
260, bigger than me, and he was a WWII drill sergeant, so
whatever he said happened. He was a very strong, very
forceful, and very fearful person.
So I decided that I was going to get involved in network
marketing. The very first program I ever got involved with
was a company called Le Patch. Anybody ever heard of that
company before? It was a weight loss patch you put on your
arm to suppress your appetite. It came in a little pink box.
I got hold of everybody on our customer list and built up a
group in 30 days of 100 people. We were holding meetings out
at the printing plant. The product was in pre-launch. We’ve
all heard the pre-launch thing. All we had was a box, no
product.
So in the meetings we’d pass around the box to everybody and
they’d open up the box and go, “Where’s the product?”
“Well, it’s in pre-launch. It’s starting.”
This is my dad’s best customers, all of his bankers, his
attorney, his CPA, the church minister and his wife. “We
want to lose weight.”
So the fifth week in the business, while I was doing a
meeting, a police offer comes in and says, “We have to shut
this meeting down. This Le Patch has been shut down by the
FDA and the FTC. The ingredients in the patch, the
transdermal method of delivery, hasn’t been approved. You’re
advertising something that doesn’t exist or is not approved
by the FDA.”
So everybody who had spent their money didn’t get it back,
and these were my dad’s best customers. My dad wasn’t at the
meeting, but he came to my house that night after the
meeting because he got a few phone calls.
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He just said this. When I opened up the door he goes, “Don’t
say a word. I’m going to do all the talking. You’re never
going to do another MLM or pyramid scheme again in my
business as long as you live. Whatever you want to do
outside of this town, you can do. As long as you’re in this
town, you’re going to shut your mouth when it comes to MLM
because you’ve almost ruined our business.”
There pretty much went my warm market. What I like to say is
out of desperation comes inspiration. I still had a problem.
My dad wasn’t going to leave the printing business. There
was nobody that wanted to hire some 22-year-old kid that had
big dreams and no experience.
So basically I ran through every magazine ad. I would work
weekends on the printing presses with my dad. I’d work
during the week as a salesperson, and on the weekends I’d
run the presses to make extra money, so I was getting two
checks from my dad.
I’d take that extra check and I’d reinvest it in all my
direct mail campaigns, running full-page ads, joining this
thing, buying that $50 kit, joining the loan broker deal for
$495, joining the financial aid for $495 – all those things
that we’ve all seen and done, I’ve bought them all.
What I’m going to teach you today is basically 25 years of
what doesn’t work, and out of that I found a system that has
bullet proofed my income and that has allowed me to make
money regardless of what happens to the program.
I’ve been in the business 25 years, and if you talk to any
leader they’re going to tell you the same thing. When I’m
talking about a primary program in MLM, this is the reality.
Now if you’ve been able to escape this reality, God bless
you, but I haven’t been able to.
One to four years has been about what my residual income has
lasted with a company. We’ve all heard the terminology,
“Walk-away residual income.” How many have heard that
before? We’re going to stay in this thing and we’re going to
build a walk-away residual income.
The only thing I’ve ever found is that when I walk away from
my group, my income walks away from me. I don’t know whoever
started that. I’d like to wring their neck.
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CD-like income. Yes, but it’s like having $100,000 in a bank
that’s not insured. Would you put $100,000 of your money in
a bank in Nassau, Bahamas that wasn’t insured by the FDIC?
Hey, maybe you earn 20% on it, but then three months later
what happens when the bank goes out of business and they go
away with your principal? You’ve lost your residual income.
That’s the way that I looked at this business. It took me
four years to make my first $1,000 commission check, four
years. I was in 12 programs in four years. Some called me an
MLM junkie. I just was looking. I joined something that had
a hot product. I joined something that had a better pay
plan. I joined something that was local. I was just all over
the place searching, hoping and praying for something that
would work. But it took me four years.
A company would start up and they’d go out of business. Then
I’d go two years. Something would go out of business. My
longest running residual income was from a nutritional
company that lasted ten years. It ended last November
because the company owner changed it from a six-level pay
plan with an infinity bonus to a one-level 25% payout.
The company owner just woke up and said, “I’m tired of all
you guys making more money from me than I am, and you guys
are making money without doing anything now.”
You have to understand that relationship between the
distributor and sometimes the company management. It’s not
saying that I’m generalizing all companies this way, I’m
just saying this has been my experience for 25 years. I talk
to people every single day and this has been their
experience for 25 years.
So the Mastermind system that I’m going to show you today is
designed to piggyback with you as you go through your life
and are going to be involved in multiple programs. I’m
sorry, that’s just the way it is. I wish it was like in the
old days like marriage, when nobody got divorced, but
unfortunately today divorce is about a 50% rate. Bankruptcy
is at a 50% rate. You know how much time and energy it takes
to get married? You know how much time and energy it takes
to get a bankruptcy?
Think about how much time and energy it doesn’t take to join
a program and quit it. So our culture has changed. Unless
you adapt and change with the culture, you’re going to be
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sitting there going, “Man, I used to be able to make a lot
of money. Now I can’t seem to sponsor anybody. What’s wrong
with me? Maybe it’s the program I’m in.”
This Mastermind system has stayed with me for 25 years. It’s
the only thing that has consistently made me money month
after month if a company would go out of business, somebody
would steal my downline, the company owner would wake up and
change the compensation plan, or competition would come in
and beat us out with a better pay plan or better system.
So if you want to bullet proof yourself you have to
understand leads and training. I want you to write that down
– leads and training. Whenever I first started answering all
those ads, I probably spent upwards of $10,000 in books and
tapes and going to seminars, looking and searching for the
answer.
What I’m going to teach you today, nobody ever taught me. If
I would have known this 25 years ago, I wouldn’t have gone
through all the pain and struggle I have, and that is this.
Here you are in your business. There’s only two types of
people that you’re ever going to contact – those that you
know and those that you don’t know. That makes it pretty
simple when you look at your business. There’s only two
types of people I’m ever going to contact.
You have to teach this to your group. The reason I sign up a
lot of people every single month is because I reveal to my
prospects, “If you join with me, here’s what our system is
going to do.”
It looks great and sounds great. You’re worried about, “I
wonder how much it’s going to cost?” The second thing is,
“Who am I going to talk to about this?” Everybody’s the
same.
When I’m talking to my prospects on the phone, I’m always
asking my prospects on the phone, “Let me ask you a
question. Do you like to build up a group locally? Do you
have a big contact list, or would you like to build this
thing nationally?”
I may run into someone who says, “Hey, I’m the former fire
chief and I had a group of 600 people in Amway.”
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That’s great. Get that person going. Nine out of ten people
tell me, “I don’t want to talk to my family and friends.
I’ve done that before, and it doesn’t work.”
Then we run into the problem of, “What are the leads going
to cost?”
What is your budget for leads? When I looked at this
business right here, everybody that I knew was immediately
cut off by Dad.
“If you talk to anybody that we know, you’re fired. It’s
over.”
I have spent the last 24 years and 9 months making six
figures plus, doing nothing but talking to people that I
don’t know. It works. You’ll hear leaders that say, “We
don’t want you to go to the cold market.” That’s what a lot
of people will call this, the cold market. They’ll call that
the warm market.
“We don’t want you to go to the cold market because it’s not
duplicatable.”
The problem with building up your warm market is that you
may be able to do that in Tulsa. What happens if you sign
someone up in Des Moines, Iowa, and all you’re going to do
is teach them how to do a warm market meeting?
Well, this room costs $150, the video guy costs $1,000 – how
duplicatable is that? It’s not. It’s okay to be
unduplicatable when you’ve reached a certain level. But you
can’t build a consistent residual income in your primary if
you’re teaching something that nobody can duplicate.
That’s why the Mastermind system works, because everybody
can do it, and here’s how.
We have spent thousands of dollars testing this. People
tell me they wish I had this or that, or why my site doesn’t
do this, or why I don’t talk about that. I go, “Because
I’ve tried all those things, and they didn’t work. Trial
and error.”
The best thing that my dad ever taught me in the printing
business was that we had to learn revolutions per hour, a
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hundred feet per minute on the printing press. We had 24
hours a day we were running.
He would ask me, “What did press 12 do last night? What did
press 15 do? How many revolutions did we do?”
So I became a math kid. I’m not really smart, but I knew
how to figure the math. I knew how to study the numbers. I
knew when the pressman was coming to me with B.S. – “Well,
the press was down for two hours” or “Well, I was sick for
an hour.”
How many revolutions can you put out in an hour and why
didn’t you do it?
It’s the same philosophy in this business. $7.95 is the key.
I’ll talk about this a little bit more in our training
later, about the marketing funnel.
$7.95 is the key because when you’re talking to people that
you don’t know, people do business with those that they
know, that they like, and that they trust.
Twenty four years and nine months of getting people to know,
like, and trust me through the phone, through the email and
through direct mail. That’s all I do.
I’m out meeting new people every single day online. I’m
getting them to know me, to like me, to trust me. Which is
easier to do? To get someone to come in to your $500 package
on a $100 monthly auto-ship if you’ve just met them today
and they live in California and you live in Oklahoma?
Or is it easier to get somebody on a $7.95, 30-day trial? If
you don’t like it, you boot it and you’re gone. Which one is
easier to do? $7.95.
The $7.95 allows you to build a relationship faster online
long distance, than if you have a $495 starter kit or a $175
auto-ship.
I don’t care if you have a binary matrix unilevel hybrid
plant; it doesn’t matter what it is. I don’t care if you
have guaranteed check spillover. The program that I built
up to about $10 million a year in sales, we gave a
guaranteed check away to people.
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We put everybody in what we call the Power Line, online.
They were guaranteed a check the first month they came in.
80,000 people came in our business in 15 months. We were
signing up 100 people a day. It was crazy.
The problem is, the check wasn’t enough, because they didn’t
get to know, like and trust us quick enough. Now they got
to trust us because we said, “If you come in and join for a
$100 auto-ship you’re going to get a $65 check.” They test
us. 30, 40, 60 days later, that check would show up. And
they would go “Okay, I’m on to something.”
If 80% of the people never make a commission check, wasn’t
that an attractive appeal? You’re guaranteed to get a check.
But people came in so fast that we didn’t have the time to
train and teach them how to go out and duplicate us.
Our system was this. Dump as many emails as you can into an
autoresponder and blast the world. Well, when spam filters
came out, that business went from 80,000 people down to
8,000, and now that downline has about 400 people left in
it.
What’s the reality? If that product was so great, why don’t
I still have 80,000 people in my downline today? You know
what I’m saying. Think about all the programs that you’ve
been involved with in the past.
This is a great product. I’m not discounting the networking
market industry. We do have great products. We really have
better products than you can buy out here on the street. But
if it’s just about the products, why are we all not still on
auto-ship for SA8 with Amway?
The check! Well, if it’s the pay plan, what about our great
pay plan? These 80,000 people got a check every month. So if
it was about just the money, why don’t I still have 80,000
people in my group?
The system was easy. You dump leads into an autoresponder
and you don’t have to talk to anybody. “Hey, let’s build a
business where we don’t have to do meetings and talk to
anybody.” Isn’t that what everyone wants to do?
We had 80,000 people who were doing that. If that is all
that it took to build the business, why don’t I still have
80,000 people? Bill, why don’t you still have people from
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your previous program still buying on auto-ship? Why do
people quit?
It has to do with know, like and trust and trying to get
their eyes off all the distractions and getting them to come
in to focus on you. The Mastermind system does that because
it allows you to do something that you can’t do anywhere
else.
It allows you to do this: “I don’t care what program you or
you are in, I have something that will help you build your
business.” It opens up my market so I’m not competing
against you and your nutritional, you and your technology
program, you and your funded proposal program – it doesn’t
matter.
Everybody needs leads and training. Write that down. Leads
and training. That’s the only consistent income I’ve ever
had in 25 years. Companies will come and go. Product fads
will come and go. Pay plans will come and go. We have seen
systems come and go.
Remember before the Internet, it was the Ray Cassano
cassette tape. I don’t know if anyone here remembers the
Ray Cassano days, where there was a company that said “We’re
going to make money mailing cassette tapes.”
I’d get four or five cassette tapes a day. They were
renting lists. They would send money to their upline, $100
to have 50 cassette tapes mailed out. The cassette tape told
the story about the product and had an 800 number on the
back to call and order a $300 package.
Millionaires were made. The guy who ran that system had $2
million in volume in his first six levels. All he sponsored
was 250 people. Twenty of these stuck, did the system,
turned it into $2 million on six levels and he was making
$250,000 a month.
What happened? They ran out of names to send it to. The
cassette mailing didn’t work. It was a temporary residual
income. I want you to write that down, because I want you
to be thinking about that, not only today but next week,
next month, and next year.
Are you really serious about building a permanent residual
income or a temporary residual income?
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The problem with this industry is that no one talks about
these things. They’re afraid to. They’re afraid to tell you
that if you join with me in my primary, this is pretty much
going to be a two to five year gig.
If I was a stockbroker (and I consider myself in the MLM
industry as an expert, as a consultant, as a stockbroker is
in selling stocks and mutual funds), and I was telling you
to buy a stock today, I would tell you “I’m going to monitor
this stock for you, Josh, and if it’s going to tank, I’m
going to call and tell you to dump your stock before it goes
under. I don’t want to squeeze every last commission check
out of you.”
Unfortunately, the mentality of our industry isn’t
traditional business. It’s residual business. It’s like
we’ve taken our common sense hats off and we’ve forgotten
what it’s like to really make money in business.
My approach is very different, because I apply that
stockbroker mentality to my group. That doesn’t mean I’m
going to get you in four nutritional programs today. It
means I’m going to get you in a primary business, a lead
business, and a tool business.
I’m going to show you three different sources of income. By
the way, Mastermind is my primary business. After 24 years
of heartbreak every two to five years, I’ve decided to put
all of my eggs in the Mastermind basket.
I still have checks coming in on other programs, but this is
my primary. I’m going to show you later today how to fill
your funnel with the tools and lead businesses.
People tell me, “Robert, I called my first ten leads, and
eight of the ten weren’t interested – your leads stink and I
want my money back.”
“Robert, I emailed a thousand leads and no one visited my
website”
“I sent out 500 postcards and I don’t know what happened.
Did the postman even deliver them?”
I get those all the time and I’m going to show you today how
to answer those questions.
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When I talk to a prospect, I’m talking to them about three
streams of income:
Primary business
Leads business
Tool business
These two right here are residual: the primary business and
the lead business. The tool business is a one-time shot in
the arm. That’s selling a $30 book on which you make a $15
commission.
How many people in here have ever bought any educational
materials such as books, tapes, audios, DVDs, or attended
seminars? How many have gone to seminars and spent thousands
of dollars? How many people have bought the Tony Robbins
CDs, for $177 – you know, those types of things.
Informational products work, but people need to have a
source that they know, like and trust to get them.
If I come to Josh and I say, “Josh, I’d like to get you in
my primary business,” and Josh says “I’m a Triple Star
Diamond in XYZ Company”, well, I mark that off my list.
“Hey, Josh, what are you guys doing for leads and training?”
“Well, you know, we have our own ad co-op, we run radio ads,
and they cost $5 a lead.”
“Really? We have leads that cost twenty nine to ninety seven
cents each. They’re guaranteed and you can make a commission
off those. Josh, do you make a commission off the radio
ads?”
“No.”
“You might want to take a look at this. Because it costs
$7.95 to test it.”
I don’t even know Josh yet. I’ve called and I’ve been
prospecting him for my primary business, now all of a
sudden, he turns into a prospect for leads. That’s what I do
all day long. I call fifty people a day. I email fifty
people a day and I mail fifty postcards a day.
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And that is my three step system: Call, email and mail.
You want to make more money? You just need to run around the
bases more. I have people that will do that with a hundred
people and they’ll sign up 1-4% after six months. That’s our
system. That’s realistic. That’s 1-4% after a six-month
period of calling, emailing and mailing them.
I call them one time, I email them weekly, and I mail them
one time. That’s my system.
Now, when they go to my website, you’ll see a sales letter
here. If you will do this and take the time for whatever
program you’re in, this is how you’re going to set yourself
ahead of the competition.
This is nothing more than my website ad copy at MLM
Mastermind. It’s configured a little bit different. I
suggest that you always put the testimonials in a colored
sheet. Then I fold it so that it fits into a double window
envelope.
You can do all this in Microsoft Word. You don’t have to
worry about labels. I use a #9 envelope. I have my return
address and their return address. I fold it over and there
it goes. Anyone can do that. It’s a Microsoft Word
document.
If you’re a distributor for another company, you can ask
permission to use the website ad copy. You download it in
Internet Explorer 7 and you can edit it in Word, just click
Save As, go into Microsoft Word and edit it, just format it.
Take this, copy it. All of this is classic sales letter, no
longer than 4-5 sentences.
It has red bold, black bold and it has headlines. I sign up
25% of the people who visit my website after they get this
piece. I call, email, and mail. They opt in, they get
this, because I get a notification, and then I make the
follow up phone call to them. I close 25% of those people.
I sponsor between 20 and 60 people a month and I work part
time.
Why? Because I’m offering a solution. This industry is
getting old enough now that everyone has their war stories
and I ask people this:
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“Josh, how long have you been in the industry? How many
programs have you been in? Would you like to get in a
program that would last forever, regardless of what you’re
building – that would help you build any program you’re
doing?”
“Yeah! What it is it?”
So I’m offering a solution to a problem. If you’re just
calling and emailing or mailing, or doing one of these
three, and kicking back and waiting for someone to visit,
it’s not going to happen. You have to go out and
communicate this message, that there is a huge problem in
this industry. There’s a lot of misinformation. I have a way
that will bullet proof your income, if you add leads and
training to it.
So that’s what I do and what you should be doing every
single day, walking down to the post office or your mail
box, when somebody visits your website. Our website
captures the street address, the city, state and zip of
every prospect. If you have a website that doesn’t do that,
you need to add that feature.
85% of the people that visit my website will give me their
street address. The street addresses are more accurate than
their email addresses. We have a bounce meter and 12-13% of
those email addresses are bounced back immediately when they
opt in. They’re just opting in to get the free information
and they give us a bogus email.
Then when we ask them for their street address, they say
“Oh, yeah, I live at 123 Main Street” and they’ll say “Leave
at door, Apartment C”. They’ll go to great lengths, “Yeah,
mail me something, but I don’t want any more spam.”
Our culture is changing, where people are tired of clicking
300 emails a day but they want you to mail something to
them.
Answer this question for me: When was the last time someone
called you on the phone and asked if you wanted to hear a
business opportunity? Since January, has anyone in this room
received a phone call and been asked if you wanted to join
their program?
Has anyone experienced that? About half the room.
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Now, has anyone received an unsolicited email to join a
program? Everybody. Has anyone, since January, sent you
anything in the mail like this sales letter or postcard?
I skipped a little step. When I call, email and mail, this
is the postcard that I mail. You can brand your own name and
photograph. You need to have a photograph. You need to do
your own name.
That adds what? I’m going to get to know you, like you and
trust you. What guy would put his photograph on a postcard
if he was promoting a scam?
What guy would put his phone number on it if he was
promoting something that was unethical or illegal? That
addresses the trust factor.
You don’t have to wear a suit and tie. I have some postcards
where I’m wearing my cowboy hat, because I think the cowboy
hat says. “Who’s that cowboy? What’s going on? Instead of a
bald guy -- who wants to watch a bald guy with a goatee? But
if I put the hat on, it’s a whole different persona. That’s
how I get my readers’ attention.
I used to send these cards out and here I have the proof
from www.authorize.net, where we did a million dollars just
off one website. (See below):
You may be saying, “Hey, I didn’t make a million dollars.”
If you don’t have the credibility, go to the credibility of
your upline. You could say down here, “Independent
Distributor of Mastermind”, if you want to use my
credibility.
You could also take that proof factor out and put something
else in, like I have on the back: “Earn $700-$2100 from just
20 people”. That’s a curiosity.
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“How do I do that? How do I earn $700-$1200 from up to
twenty people? What is the program? How do I do it?”
Eight out of ten people today in a program are losing money.
Write that down because it’s important. We’ve all heard
about the 80/20 rule. Eight out of ten people in a program
today are losing money.
If they’re losing money, do they still have $7.95 to try the
program? Yes, they do.
If they’re losing money, do they have the money to come in
and join your program at $250 startup kit and $100 auto-
ship? No. Because now they have two $100 auto-ships, then
they’ll get a third $100 auto-ship.
How many people have you ever talked to that said “I just
need to cut back”?
Teaching and training them, that’s how the system works.
That’s the philosophy behind, when I wake up every single
morning, “What am I going to do today? How am I going to
develop residual income?”
I call, email and mail fifty people a day; that’s a thousand
people a month.
I have a report on the website called “Results of 1,000
Phone Calls”.
Make sure you’ve read that. That’s me tabulating.
If you want to get it, you can find it at
www.mlmmastermind.com/thankyou.html.
Pretty much long distance is free now. It’s the results of
1,000 phone calls.
That’s me sitting there, smiling and dialing. And I call
during the day. I don’t want to get hold of the prospect on
that first call.
How many have signed people up on auto-ship the first time
you ever talked to them? It doesn’t happen. Let me ask you
all this question, so get ready.
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The primary program business that you have been in up to the
last one, from the moment you heard about that program until
the moment you decided to join it, what was that time frame?
Was it one day, one week, one month, one year? It ranges
from a couple of days to a month.
So when you get our leads from us, what’s your proper
expectation? If you’re eager like me, they should all say
they just answered the ad today and they’ve been waiting on
my phone call. We shoot ourselves in the foot when we expect
the prospects to act different than us.
This is a room filled with highly intelligent, focused
network marketers. Yet we want our prospects to go, “Yeah!
How much is it? I’ve been waiting on your call, buddy, thank
you. My wife went to dinner. I knew someone was going to
call me today and here’s my credit card!”
It doesn’t work that way. You have to get your cold
prospects to know, like and trust you. How do you do that?
You call them.
I make a phone call: “Hi, Josh, this is Robert Blackman.
You answered an ad in the past, looking to make money from a
home-based business. The purpose of today’s call is to find
out if you’ve found something already, or if you’re still
looking.”
Whether I get him live or I get his voice mail, I say the
same thing. Regardless of what happens there, if he slams
the phone down on me or if I get his voice mail, I send him
a follow up email.
In the subject line, I write “Josh, I just left you a voice
mail message” or “Josh, I just talked to you on the phone.”
When you see your name in the body and the subject line of
an email, does that get your attention? So you have to start
doing that. That’s how you improve your response rate.
What do I put in the body of the email?
“Go to my website and download my 23- page report, How to
Make Money When People Tell You No.
What do I then do? I send him a postcard as a follow-up and
within my phone conversation I’m going to say “Josh, I’m
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going to send you an email today, I’m going to drop a
postcard in the mail to you that’ll show up in 4-5 days, so
be looking for that.”
You come home from work; you’re busy, what happens? You get
voice mail, someone from Oklahoma calls you, and you go
“What? Who? I don’t know that person.” Delete. Don’t call
them back again.
Let’s say I was a headhunter and I had a $100,000 a year job
today selling twiddly sticks, or waiting tables at Arby’s,
and it was $100,000 and I had two positions in Norman.
If I called you and said “You have to meet me at the Holiday
Inn at 10:00 on Saturday morning and we’re going to hire two
people today.”
If you don’t show up, is that headhunter going to call you
back on Monday and say “Where were you?”
Is he going to call you next Thursday and say “I’ve left you
three messages?”
No. He’s going to give that job to the two people that show
up here. If only one guy shows up, they get the job and
they’ll go through the cycle again.
You have to have posture. We have lost posture in this
business. When was the last time your doctor called you and
said “You need to come down and get a flu shot”? Do you ever
get a call from your doctor? No.
When you go to your doctor, you have to wait 45 minutes to
an hour. Complete posture! Then you go in, and what do you
do with the doctor?
“Yes sir.” “Yes ma’am.” “Is that what I need? Okay, great. I
don’t know what’s in that injection, I don’t know what’s in
these pills, but if you say I need them, then okay. It costs
$80, $100 at the pharmacy? Boy, I should feel better!”
So we’re taught to do what? We are taught to follow people
of authority, who seem to know what they’re doing. When I
call you, and I seem to know what I’m doing, and then I tell
you that I’m going to send you an email and a postcard, does
that hit one of these three or a couple of these here?
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It doesn’t matter whether you’re even interested or not.
You could be going through a divorce, you could be going
through a bankruptcy, you could have just won the lottery.
It doesn’t matter.
If I take you through the process and I tell you I’m going
to do something and I do it, I immediately build that bond.
If I just send postcards, I can’t do that.
If I just call you and call you and cal you, I can’t do
that. If I just spam you every single day, I can’t do that.
It’s the three, like a chair with three legs on it. If the
chair has one leg, it won’t stand up. If you have three
legs, you have stability.
The reason why people don’t make money in Mastermind is that
they refuse to follow the three-step system. I wish it was
just one-step. I did have it where we did $10 million in a
year, and all we did was email.
Those were great days. I’d stay up until 2 A.M., talking to
everyone about how big our checks were, sleep until 10 A.M.,
get up and go have a $100 lunch and have fifty people signed
up by noon.
I’d go to the swimming pool, go play golf, come back home –
and another 42 people had signed up and I had people calling
my cell phone, saying “Hey, what are we doing? Thanks –
great – when’s the next conference call?”
That was great; but what was that? Was that a long-term,
residual income? That was a temporary residual income. That
stock shot to the moon, and it came down as fast as it shot
up there – and we sold the stock. That’s the business.
If you want to be in this business 25 years from today,
making the kind of money you want to make, you have to
follow this system. Within this system, you can plug in any
business that you want.
By the way, when the postcard shows up – and I want to
reiterate this -- I call them one time, I email them every
week, and I mail them a postcard one time.
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If and when they opt in to the website, I mail them this.
10% of the people join within the first 24 hours after
visiting the website. So this will pass in the mail to them.
Then I make the follow up phone call. If I mail the
postcard on a Tuesday, when do I call them? Next Tuesday.
Why?
Remember what I was saying earlier? When was the last time
someone sent you something in the mail to join, since
January? Direct mail?
If you want to follow a system, write this site down:
www.OmahaSteaks.com. I’m a big steak guy. Opt in to their
website. Order one of their packages that is worth $600 and
you pay $14 for it.
Watch their marketing follow up. Watch the emails that come
in. Watch the direct mail packages that come in.
Don’t buy from them for three months, and listen to what the
person says when they call you; “Hey, Mr. Blackman, as a
previous customer, we want to offer you a special today on
our steak kabobs.” That’s marketing.
Is Omaha Steaks a multi-multi-million dollar company? Yes.
Do the principles in traditional business apply to network
marketing? Yes. So why don’t people teach them?
“Well, just get a list of family and friends. And let’s all
go over to their house.”
That builds temporary residual income. And I did that
several times. I built a group up here in Amway of 100
people in six months, from zero.
I knew no one down here. We moved from Bartlesville to
Norman and I knew nobody. I’m sitting in front of a group of
100 people. Every one of them were flat broke and couldn’t
afford anything, but I built a group of a hundred people. I
strong-armed everybody in but I didn’t have a system.
Go to your list. We’d have Sunday night team callings. I’d
say, “Josh, get your list together, I’m going to meet you at
your house, and we’re going to call your names. I’m going to
call them for you.”
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I was a workhorse. But if the products were so good – why
are all those hundred people gone now? They’re gone because
I held all 100 of them in, I held their hand, and I kept
them from drowning. As soon as I wanted to take a break, it
goes away.
My strategy was this. This was my thought process. I don’t
want to be in the printing business for the rest of my life
because of the fact that I know what the results are. It’s
not bad, it’s just not my choice. It was my dad’s company.
I thought I wanted to take it over, but then I changed my
mind, because he was just such an SOB about it.
I didn’t have any money to invest in real estate. I bought
the Carleton Sheets stuff, Dave Delgado, all those guys – no
money down. I did all that. It didn’t work for me.
I didn’t have any money to invest in the stock market,
bought all those courses, they didn’t work for me. This was
the only business that I saw in which a poor, broke kid from
Oklahoma could make six figures. This business model does
not discriminate against you. People will, but the business
model won’t.
My thought process was this. “Why can’t I make $100,000 a
year in two programs and bullet-proof myself?”
This was going to be my primary and this was going to be my
secondary.
In my weakest moment, when I had no one in my downline,
after the Le Patch deal went south, this is what I came up
with.
“Why can’t I make $100,000 a year in my primary and also
bullet-proof myself and have a backup income?”
In other words, why invest everything in just one stock? You
have mutual funds. I understand the dynamic that you can’t
be in four nutritional programs and I understand why that
doesn’t work and I hope everyone here does too.
I understand that there is a code of ethics that addresses
when you personally sponsor someone, about taking them
somewhere else. We have to follow those in this industry or
it’s like broken glass. Unfortunately, that’s just the way
it works.
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I want to make $100,000 a year in my primary and $100,000 a
year in my secondary. The secondary is leads and training,
the primary is your 2-5 year gig, whatever that is.
What are you hot on right now? Is it the juice, the patch,
the cookie, technology? It doesn’t matter, but I guarantee
that whatever you’re in now, within 2-5 years you’ll be out
of it.
It isn’t because of you, either. It’s because something’s
going to happen to that stock that’s going to force people
to quit. Remember, every business that you’ve been in
before, why aren’t all those people still in auto-ship? Why
aren’t you still getting the same check as when you left it?
Why is that?
You have to understand that it’s because they don’t
understand the dynamic of this system. They don’t have two
streams of income. This is always going to sting you.
Have you all heard the scorpion and the frog story? The
frog’s sitting there by the stream and he needs to get
across to his family. Somehow the family got on a leaf and
went across without him and Daddy Frog’s sitting there all
by himself.
Up walks the scorpion, the archenemy of the frog.
The frog starts scooting away and he says, “Hey, what are
you doing?” and the scorpion says, “I need to get across
too. If you ride on a lily pad, will you put me on your
shoulders and take me across the river?”
The frog says, “You’re my archenemy. You’re going to sting
me.”
“No, I won’t,” says the scorpion, “I promise you. It’s going
to be different this time.”
What does the frog do? He says, “Okay, here comes a lily
pad. Jump on my back.”
The stream starts taking them across. They get halfway
across the stream and the scorpion stings the frog. The
frog’s going to drown along with the scorpion.
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The frog turns to the scorpion and asks, “Why did you do
that?”
The scorpion says, “Because I’m a scorpion and that’s what I
do: I sting frogs. I will say and do whatever I have to do,
to sting you.”
MLM programs that you get involved with will not last 25-30
years of steady growth of checks. That is a myth and it’s a
reality I had to learn. I didn’t like the idea of jumping
from program to program every 2-5 years. Who would like to
get married every 2-5 years?
I’ve been through a divorce, so I understand. I consider
being in business like a marriage. You put your heart, soul
and commitment into it.
Unfortunately, I wanted this business to do this in my
heart, and when it did this, I became depressed and almost
an alcoholic, because I couldn’t change it, no matter what
the pay plan was, what the product line was; couldn’t do
anything about it.
I decided to either get in the industry and dissect it or
just get the heck out. I went and sat for an insurance exam.
I was going to get into the insurance business. I went out
on my first appointment and I realized that I couldn’t do
this. I came back and built this system.
The secondary program, Mastermind, will save your life. You
can make more money in it than you can with your primary to
begin with. It’s a two-tier program right now. We pay 15%
on the first level, 40% on the second.
For every person that’s in your downline who spends $100 on
your product, they’re going to spend $200 to advertise it.
If you have a downline of a hundred people, and they’re all
active, and you have $10,000 a month in volume, your average
commission check’s going to be 10% on that, whatever program
you’re in, so you’re earning $1000.
If you have 100 people buying $100 a month in product,
$10,000 a month in volume, you’re going to be earning about
$1000. Does everybody agree with that?
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All the while, those same hundred people are out spending an
average $200 a month to advertise this business. Let me ask
you a question. How much commission are you getting off
that? Zero.
That bothered me. The advertisers are getting twice as much
as my primary program, and the advertisers don’t give a darn
whether the ad works or not. When is the last time you got a
refund from the post office for your mailing that didn’t
work – or paid for a full page ad that didn’t work and they
paid you a commission? They don’t.
This was the hole in the network marketing MLM system. This
is how you bullet proof yourself. This is a known fact.
They spend twice as much on advertising the business than
they do for the product and service on which you earn a
commission.
In MLM Mastermind, we pay 15% at the first level, 40% the
second level. It wouldn’t matter if we paid you 1%, because
you’re going to be getting more with us than you’re getting
right now. That’s how you get people who tell you no to your
primary business. That’s how you make money off them. That’s
one way to make money when people tell you no.
You show the leader who has a hundred people in his group
this and ask him how much money he makes from all the
advertising dollars. He’s going to say zero. You ask him if
he’d like to tap into some of that income. That’s why
Mastermind works, because it makes sense.
And it’s built upon a foundation that will never go away.
People are always going to spend more money promoting the
business than they are on the product or service for which
you receive a commission. That’s a fact that you can’t
change.
We’re going to do that with leads, books and tapes. Earlier
when I asked how many people had bought any educational
materials, everybody raised their hand and shook their heads
like, “I spent too much money on that stuff.”
We pay you 50% commission of the profit on that book or
tape. For leads we pay 15% and 40%. When you build up a
group of twenty people, that’s $700 a month. Anybody got a
calculator in here today? Okay, then look on the sheet.
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I’m excited to sign them up, I’m excited to teach them this
system and let them know that if they decide to work with me
and just put in 20 people, it’s as if you walked down to the
bank and deposited $168,000.
Does that get them thinking, “Wow, I’ve never heard it like
that before.”
Which is easier to do, go save $168,000 or go build a group
of 20?
How do you build a group of 20? Can you sponsor one person a
month out of your 100 leads? Everyone agree that’s pretty
realistic? That’s 1%. You get 100 leads a month from us.
Again, we have packages all the way up to 250, 500 and 1000,
but I do everything on the base of 100 leads.
I’m going to tell Josh, when I’m prospecting with him about
our system.
“Josh, can you come home from work, call five people, send
five emails and drop five postcards in the mail? Can you do
that?”
If Josh won’t do that, is that an indicator to me? Yes.
So I’m asking my prospects questions about what they will
do.
“Do you see the brilliance in the system? Did you know how
much money it would take in your bank account in order to
earn $700 a month?”
“No, never even thought about it.”
Has everyone heard of a CD – a certificate of deposit? Yes.
I’m applying traditional principles blended in with network
marketing. That’s how I get people to know, trust and like
me, because I’m teaching them, I’m not selling them. I’m
teaching them the business model.
I’m going to ask, “Can you come home and do five a day,
Monday through Friday, for twenty days a month? If you can
do that, Josh, and we put in one person a month, at the end
of four months, what do we have? Four people in the front
line.”
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“What if on month five we teach these people how to do the
same thing? They do their four months. At the end of eight
months you have a group of twenty.”
“Josh, is it realistic to say that if you work with me over
the next eight months, following my system, that we should
have close to a group of twenty people and you’re earning
$700 a month? Can you see yourself doing that, at a 1%
response rate, at a 99% failure rate?”
Do you see how I sign up 20-60 people a month? I’m solving a
problem, I’m offering a solution.
It doesn’t matter what your primary is, then. Whatever
you’re in, they’ll get in then.
“Oh, by the way, you need to take a look at XYZ Company.”
You can use Mastermind as a way to build your primary,
because I will guarantee you that in 2-5 years, your primary
is going to change.
When you lead with your primary, and it’s always changing,
how does that make you look as a marketer, as a source of
information that I should know, like and trust? If I’m your
stockbroker and I call you every single month with a
different stock, how is that going to make you feel about
me? Just trying to earn a commission.
You know that you can’t juggle stocks, unless they go up
every month, to make a long term residual income. So if my
primary is always going to do this, how do I look like
Steady Eddie, MLM Expert Man?
I sell leads and training. I lead with that, and then
whatever the program of the day is, we get in. And if they
get into the primary program with me, what do I tell them?
I tell them, “Bill, there’s a chance that this is going to
last for 2-5 years, because that’s the nature of the
business.”
Is Bill going to appreciate me more in two years when the
company goes out of business?
“You told me that would probably happen; I’m sure glad I’m
in that leads deal with you, because my check’s up to $1,500
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a month in that thing. What are we going to do now, Robert,
what’s our next program?”
Do you see the relationship I’ve built with my team? They
follow me through programs because I’m consistent and I tell
them up front that the business model is inconsistent – but
I’m not. Do you see the difference?
Do you see how I’ve been able to stay in the business for 25
years? If you go back and look at a magazine from 1993,
you’ll see a full page ad of me there. You look in a
magazine from last month; you’ll see a full page ad of me
there. How many people can say they’ve done that?
It’s because they’ve all led with the primary – nutrition,
technology, binary, matrix, hybrid – you lose credibility
and you run through your people. It is so hard to build your
in-house list; you have to protect your in-house list. The
way you protect them is to educate them in the truth.
Is it hard to generate leads of people who know, like and
trust you? Yes. Why would I want to pour water on that
fire, just for cash? If it’s hard just to build the list
up, and it’s hard to get people to maintain that, wouldn’t I
want to protect my list as if it were in my safe deposit
box, or like it’s a $1 million savings bond that my dad gave
me?
So why don’t we do that with our downline? Because people
are afraid to teach them that the primary isn’t really the
primary. The lead program is really the primary. But they
don’t like to teach that. I don’t know why.
How many people have you heard say, “I used to make a
$10,000 monthly check”?
Where are they now? They lost their leads, their credibility
and they go back to this: “Yeah, right, I put everything
into it, I had $1000 in inventory, and that embarrassed me
when that thing went out of business. What a loser program
that was. I’m not going to do anything with you ever again.”
I have been through six programs that have either closed or
something has happened in the last decade. I have people
who ask me “What is it now, Rob?”
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Tell them the truth up front. I want you to write this
down, because I think it will change the way you prospect.
I talk to my prospects and I teach them as if I was teaching
my children how to make long-term residual income. I don’t
talk down to them, but I educate them.
When I’m dead and gone, do I want my kids to know how to
make long-term residual income? Yes. Would I reveal what I
reveal to you, to them? Now, here’s the real truth. Don’t
believe all the other hype. There is no walk away residual
income.
Primary businesses go out every 2-5 years. I would tell my
kids that. Would you tell your kids that, if you knew it?
“Here’s how to bullet proof your income. Here’s how to make
money off Dad’s ideas for the rest of your life.”
That’s how I treat my prospects and that’s how I make
Mastermind work.
Let’s take a little bit of a break and let’s come back and
do some other advanced tactics training, okay?
It looks great and sounds great. You’re worried about, “I
wonder how much it’s going to cost?” The second thing is,
“Who am I going to talk to about this?” Everybody’s the
same.
When I’m talking to my prospects on the phone, I’m always
asking my prospects on the phone, “Let me ask you a
question. Do you like to build up a group locally? Do you
have a big contact list, or would you like to build this
thing nationally?”
I may run into someone who says, “Hey, I’m the former fire
chief and I had a group of 600 people in Amway.”
That’s great. Get that person going. Nine out of ten people
tell me, “I don’t want to talk to my family and friends.
I’ve done that before, and it doesn’t work.”
Then we run into the problem of, “What are the leads going
to cost?”
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What is your budget for leads? When I looked at this
business right here, everybody that I knew was immediately
cut off by Dad.
“If you talk to anybody that we know, you’re fired. It’s
over.”
I have spent the last 24 years and 9 months making six
figures plus, doing nothing but talking to people that I
don’t know. It works. You’ll hear leaders that say, “We
don’t want you to go to the cold market.” That’s what a lot
of people will call this, the cold market. They’ll call that
the warm market.
“We don’t want you to go to the cold market because it’s not
duplicatable.”
The problem with building up your warm market is that you
may be able to do that in Tulsa. What happens if you sign
someone up in Des Moines, Iowa, and all you’re going to do
is teach them how to do a warm market meeting?
Well, this room costs $150, the video guy costs $1,000 – how
duplicatable is that? It’s not. It’s okay to be
unduplicatable when you’ve reached a certain level. But you
can’t build a consistent residual income in your primary if
you’re teaching something that nobody can duplicate.
That’s why the Mastermind system works, because everybody
can do it, and here’s how.
We have spent thousands of dollars testing this. People
tell me they wish I had this or that, or why my site doesn’t
do this, or why I don’t talk about that. I go, “Because
I’ve tried all those things, and they didn’t work. Trial
and error.”
The best thing that my dad ever taught me in the printing
business was that we had to learn revolutions per hour, a
hundred feet per minute on the printing press. We had 24
hours a day we were running.
He would ask me, “What did press 12 do last night? What did
press 15 do? How many revolutions did we do?”
So I became a math kid. I’m not really smart, but I knew
how to figure the math. I knew how to study the numbers. I
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knew when the pressman was coming to me with B.S. – “Well,
the press was down for two hours” or “Well, I was sick for
an hour.”
How many revolutions can you put out in an hour and why
didn’t you do it?
It’s the same philosophy in this business. $7.95 is the key.
I’ll talk about this a little bit more in our training
later, about the marketing funnel.
$7.95 is the key because when you’re talking to people that
you don’t know, people do business with those that they
know, that they like, and that they trust.
Twenty four years and nine months of getting people to know,
like, and trust me through the phone, through the email and
through direct mail. That’s all I do.
I’m out meeting new people every single day online. I’m
getting them to know me, to like me, to trust me. Which is
easier to do? To get someone to come in to your $500 package
on a $100 monthly auto-ship if you’ve just met them today
and they live in California and you live in Oklahoma?
Or is it easier to get somebody on a $7.95, 30-day trial? If
you don’t like it, you boot it and you’re gone. Which one is
easier to do? $7.95.
The $7.95 allows you to build a relationship faster online
long distance, than if you have a $495 starter kit or a $175
auto-ship.
I don’t care if you have a binary matrix unilevel hybrid
plant; it doesn’t matter what it is. I don’t care if you
have guaranteed check spillover. The program that I built
up to about $10 million a year in sales, we gave a
guaranteed check away to people.
We put everybody in what we call the Power Line, online.
They were guaranteed a check the first month they came in.
80,000 people came in our business in 15 months. We were
signing up 100 people a day. It was crazy.
The problem is, the check wasn’t enough, because they didn’t
get to know, like and trust us quick enough. Now they got
to trust us because we said, “If you come in and join for a
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$100 auto-ship you’re going to get a $65 check.” They test
us. 30, 40, 60 days later, that check would show up. And
they would go “Okay, I’m on to something.”
If 80% of the people never make a commission check, wasn’t
that an attractive appeal? You’re guaranteed to get a check.
But people came in so fast that we didn’t have the time to
train and teach them how to go out and duplicate us.
Our system was this. Dump as many emails as you can into an
autoresponder and blast the world. Well, when spam filters
came out, that business went from 80,000 people down to
8,000, and now that downline has about 400 people left in
it.
What’s the reality? If that product was so great, why don’t
I still have 80,000 people in my downline today? You know
what I’m saying. Think about all the programs that you’ve
been involved with in the past.
This is a great product. I’m not discounting the networking
market industry. We do have great products. We really have
better products than you can buy out here on the street. But
if it’s just about the products, why are we all not still on
auto-ship for SA8 with Amway?
The check! Well, if it’s the pay plan, what about our great
pay plan? These 80,000 people got a check every month. So if
it was about just the money, why don’t I still have 80,000
people in my group?
The system was easy. You dump leads into an autoresponder
and you don’t have to talk to anybody. “Hey, let’s build a
business where we don’t have to do meetings and talk to
anybody.” Isn’t that what everyone wants to do?
We had 80,000 people who were doing that. If that is all
that it took to build the business, why don’t I still have
80,000 people? Bill, why don’t you still have people from
your previous program still buying on auto-ship? Why do
people quit?
It has to do with know, like and trust and trying to get
their eyes off all the distractions and getting them to come
in to focus on you. The Mastermind system does that because
it allows you to do something that you can’t do anywhere
else.
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It allows you to do this: “I don’t care what program you or
you are in, I have something that will help you build your
business.” It opens up my market so I’m not competing
against you and your nutritional, you and your technology
program, you and your funded proposal program – it doesn’t
matter.
Everybody needs leads and training. Write that down. Leads
and training. That’s the only consistent income I’ve ever
had in 25 years. Companies will come and go. Product fads
will come and go. Pay plans will come and go. We have seen
systems come and go.
Remember before the Internet, it was the Ray Cassano
cassette tape. I don’t know if anyone here remembers the
Ray Cassano days, where there was a company that said “We’re
going to make money mailing cassette tapes.”
I’d get four or five cassette tapes a day. They were
renting lists. They would send money to their upline, $100
to have 50 cassette tapes mailed out. The cassette tape told
the story about the product and had an 800 number on the
back to call and order a $300 package.
Millionaires were made. The guy who ran that system had $2
million in volume in his first six levels. All he sponsored
was 250 people. Twenty of these stuck, did the system,
turned it into $2 million on six levels and he was making
$250,000 a month.
What happened? They ran out of names to send it to. The
cassette mailing didn’t work. It was a temporary residual
income. I want you to write that down, because I want you
to be thinking about that, not only today but next week,
next month, and next year.
Are you really serious about building a permanent residual
income or a temporary residual income?
The problem with this industry is that no one talks about
these things. They’re afraid to. They’re afraid to tell you
that if you join with me in my primary, this is pretty much
going to be a two to five year gig.
If I was a stockbroker (and I consider myself in the MLM
industry as an expert, as a consultant, as a stockbroker is
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in selling stocks and mutual funds), and I was telling you
to buy a stock today, I would tell you “I’m going to monitor
this stock for you, Josh, and if it’s going to tank, I’m
going to call and tell you to dump your stock before it goes
under. I don’t want to squeeze every last commission check
out of you.”
Unfortunately, the mentality of our industry isn’t
traditional business. It’s residual business. It’s like
we’ve taken our common sense hats off and we’ve forgotten
what it’s like to really make money in business.
My approach is very different, because I apply that
stockbroker mentality to my group. That doesn’t mean I’m
going to get you in four nutritional programs today. It
means I’m going to get you in a primary business, a lead
business, and a tool business.
I’m going to show you three different sources of income. By
the way, Mastermind is my primary business. After 24 years
of heartbreak every two to five years, I’ve decided to put
all of my eggs in the Mastermind basket.
I still have checks coming in on other programs, but this is
my primary. I’m going to show you later today how to fill
your funnel with the tools and lead businesses.
People tell me, “Robert, I called my first ten leads, and
eight of the ten weren’t interested – your leads stink and I
want my money back.”
“Robert, I emailed a thousand leads and no one visited my
website”
“I sent out 500 postcards and I don’t know what happened.
Did the postman even deliver them?”
I get those all the time and I’m going to show you today how
to answer those questions.
When I talk to a prospect, I’m talking to them about three
streams of income:
Primary business
Leads business
Tool business
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These two right here are residual: the primary business and
the lead business. The tool business is a one-time shot in
the arm. That’s selling a $30 book on which you make a $15
commission.
How many people in here have ever bought any educational
materials such as books, tapes, audios, DVDs, or attended
seminars? How many have gone to seminars and spent thousands
of dollars? How many people have bought the Tony Robbins
CDs, for $177 – you know, those types of things.
Informational products work, but people need to have a
source that they know, like and trust to get them.
If I come to Josh and I say, “Josh, I’d like to get you in
my primary business,” and Josh says “I’m a Triple Star
Diamond in XYZ Company”, well, I mark that off my list.
“Hey, Josh, what are you guys doing for leads and training?”
“Well, you know, we have our own ad co-op, we run radio ads,
and they cost $5 a lead.”
“Really? We have leads that cost twenty nine to ninety seven
cents each. They’re guaranteed and you can make a commission
off those. Josh, do you make a commission off the radio
ads?”
“No.”
“You might want to take a look at this. Because it costs
$7.95 to test it.”
I don’t even know Josh yet. I’ve called and I’ve been
prospecting him for my primary business, now all of a
sudden, he turns into a prospect for leads. That’s what I do
all day long. I call fifty people a day. I email fifty
people a day and I mail fifty postcards a day.
And that is my three step system: Call, email and mail.
You want to make more money? You just need to run around the
bases more. I have people that will do that with a hundred
people and they’ll sign up 1-4% after six months. That’s our
system. That’s realistic. That’s 1-4% after a six-month
period of calling, emailing and mailing them.
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I call them one time, I email them weekly, and I mail them
one time. That’s my system.
Now, when they go to my website, you’ll see a sales letter
here. If you will do this and take the time for whatever
program you’re in, this is how you’re going to set yourself
ahead of the competition.
This is nothing more than my website ad copy at MLM
Mastermind. It’s configured a little bit different. I
suggest that you always put the testimonials in a colored
sheet. Then I fold it so that it fits into a double window
envelope.
You can do all this in Microsoft Word. You don’t have to
worry about labels. I use a #9 envelope. I have my return
address and their return address. I fold it over and there
it goes. Anyone can do that. It’s a Microsoft Word
document.
If you’re a distributor for another company, you can ask
permission to use the website ad copy. You download it in
Internet Explorer 7 and you can edit it in Word, just click
Save As, go into Microsoft Word and edit it, just format it.
Take this, copy it. All of this is classic sales letter, no
longer than 4-5 sentences.
It has red bold, black bold and it has headlines. I sign up
25% of the people who visit my website after they get this
piece. I call, email, and mail. They opt in, they get
this, because I get a notification, and then I make the
follow up phone call to them. I close 25% of those people.
I sponsor between 20 and 60 people a month and I work part
time.
Why? Because I’m offering a solution. This industry is
getting old enough now that everyone has their war stories
and I ask people this:
“Josh, how long have you been in the industry? How many
programs have you been in? Would you like to get in a
program that would last forever, regardless of what you’re
building – that would help you build any program you’re
doing?”
“Yeah! What it is it?”
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So I’m offering a solution to a problem. If you’re just
calling and emailing or mailing, or doing one of these
three, and kicking back and waiting for someone to visit,
it’s not going to happen. You have to go out and
communicate this message, that there is a huge problem in
this industry. There’s a lot of misinformation. I have a way
that will bullet proof your income, if you add leads and
training to it.
So that’s what I do and what you should be doing every
single day, walking down to the post office or your mail
box, when somebody visits your website. Our website
captures the street address, the city, state and zip of
every prospect. If you have a website that doesn’t do that,
you need to add that feature.
85% of the people that visit my website will give me their
street address. The street addresses are more accurate than
their email addresses. We have a bounce meter and 12-13% of
those email addresses are bounced back immediately when they
opt in. They’re just opting in to get the free information
and they give us a bogus email.
Then when we ask them for their street address, they say
“Oh, yeah, I live at 123 Main Street” and they’ll say “Leave
at door, Apartment C”. They’ll go to great lengths, “Yeah,
mail me something, but I don’t want any more spam.”
Our culture is changing, where people are tired of clicking
300 emails a day but they want you to mail something to
them.
Answer this question for me: When was the last time someone
called you on the phone and asked if you wanted to hear a
business opportunity? Since January, has anyone in this room
received a phone call and been asked if you wanted to join
their program?
Has anyone experienced that? About half the room.
Now, has anyone received an unsolicited email to join a
program? Everybody. Has anyone, since January, sent you
anything in the mail like this sales letter or postcard?
I skipped a little step. When I call, email and mail, this
is the postcard that I mail. You can brand your own name and
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photograph. You need to have a photograph. You need to do
your own name.
That adds what? I’m going to get to know you, like you and
trust you. What guy would put his photograph on a postcard
if he was promoting a scam?
What guy would put his phone number on it if he was
promoting something that was unethical or illegal? That
addresses the trust factor.
You don’t have to wear a suit and tie. I have some postcards
where I’m wearing my cowboy hat, because I think the cowboy
hat says. “Who’s that cowboy? What’s going on? Instead of a
bald guy -- who wants to watch a bald guy with a goatee? But
if I put the hat on, it’s a whole different persona. That’s
how I get my readers’ attention.
I used to send these cards out and here I have the proof
from www.authorize.net, where we did a million dollars just
off one website.
You may be saying, “Hey, I didn’t make a million dollars.”
If you don’t have the credibility, go to the credibility of
your upline. You could say down here, “Independent
Distributor of Mastermind”, if you want to use my
credibility.
You could also take that proof factor out and put something
else in, like I have on the back: “Earn $700-$2100 from just
20 people”. That’s a curiosity.
“How do I do that? How do I earn $700-$1200 from up to
twenty people? What is the program? How do I do it?”
Eight out of ten people today in a program are losing money.
Write that down because it’s important. We’ve all heard
about the 80/20 rule. Eight out of ten people in a program
today are losing money.
If they’re losing money, do they still have $7.95 to try the
program? Yes, they do.
If they’re losing money, do they have the money to come in
and join your program at $250 startup kit and $100 auto-
ship? No. Because now they have two $100 auto-ships, then
they’ll get a third $100 auto-ship.
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How many people have you ever talked to that said “I just
need to cut back”?
Teaching and training them, that’s how the system works.
That’s the philosophy behind, when I wake up every single
morning, “What am I going to do today? How am I going to
develop residual income?”
I call, email and mail fifty people a day; that’s a thousand
people a month.
I have a report on the website called “Results of 1,000
Phone Calls”. Make sure you’ve read that. That’s me
tabulating. If you want to get it, you can find it at
www.mlmmastermind.com/thankyou.html.
Pretty much long distance is free now. It’s the results of
1,000 phone calls.
That’s me sitting there, smiling and dialing. And I call
during the day. I don’t want to get hold of the prospect on
that first call.
How many have signed people up on auto-ship the first time
you ever talked to them? It doesn’t happen. Let me ask you
all this question, so get ready.
The primary program business that you have been in up to the
last one, from the moment you heard about that program until
the moment you decided to join it, what was that time frame?
Was it one day, one week, one month, one year? It ranges
from a couple of days to a month.
So when you get our leads from us, what’s your proper
expectation? If you’re eager like me, they should all say
they just answered the ad today and they’ve been waiting on
my phone call. We shoot ourselves in the foot when we expect
the prospects to act different than us.
This is a room filled with highly intelligent, focused
network marketers. Yet we want our prospects to go, “Yeah!
How much is it? I’ve been waiting on your call, buddy, thank
you. My wife went to dinner. I knew someone was going to
call me today and here’s my credit card!”
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It doesn’t work that way. You have to get your cold
prospects to know, like and trust you. How do you do that?
You call them.
I make a phone call: “Hi, Josh, this is Robert Blackman.
You answered an ad in the past, looking to make money from a
home-based business. The purpose of today’s call is to find
out if you’ve found something already, or if you’re still
looking.”
Whether I get him live or I get his voice mail, I say the
same thing. Regardless of what happens there, if he slams
the phone down on me or if I get his voice mail, I send him
a follow up email.
In the subject line, I write “Josh, I just left you a voice
mail message” or “Josh, I just talked to you on the phone.”
When you see your name in the body and the subject line of
an email, does that get your attention? So you have to start
doing that. That’s how you improve your response rate.
What do I put in the body of the email?
“Go to my website and download my 23- page report, How to
Make Money When People Tell You No.
What do I then do? I send him a postcard as a follow-up and
within my phone conversation I’m going to say “Josh, I’m
going to send you an email today, I’m going to drop a
postcard in the mail to you that’ll show up in 4-5 days, so
be looking for that.”
You come home from work; you’re busy, what happens? You get
voice mail, someone from Oklahoma calls you, and you go
“What? Who? I don’t know that person.” Delete. Don’t call
them back again.
Let’s say I was a headhunter and I had a $100,000 a year job
today selling twiddly sticks, or waiting tables at Arby’s,
and it was $100,000 and I had two positions in Norman.
If I called you and said “You have to meet me at the Holiday
Inn at 10:00 on Saturday morning and we’re going to hire two
people today.”
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If you don’t show up, is that headhunter going to call you
back on Monday and say “Where were you?”
Is he going to call you next Thursday and say “I’ve left you
three messages?”
No. He’s going to give that job to the two people that show
up here. If only one guy shows up, they get the job and
they’ll go through the cycle again.
You have to have posture. We have lost posture in this
business. When was the last time your doctor called you and
said “You need to come down and get a flu shot”? Do you ever
get a call from your doctor? No.
When you go to your doctor, you have to wait 45 minutes to
an hour. Complete posture! Then you go in, and what do you
do with the doctor?
“Yes sir.” “Yes ma’am.” “Is that what I need? Okay, great. I
don’t know what’s in that injection, I don’t know what’s in
these pills, but if you say I need them, then okay. It costs
$80, $100 at the pharmacy? Boy, I should feel better!”
So we’re taught to do what? We are taught to follow people
of authority, who seem to know what they’re doing. When I
call you, and I seem to know what I’m doing, and then I tell
you that I’m going to send you an email and a postcard, does
that hit one of these three or a couple of these here?
It doesn’t matter whether you’re even interested or not.
You could be going through a divorce, you could be going
through a bankruptcy, you could have just won the lottery.
It doesn’t matter.
If I take you through the process and I tell you I’m going
to do something and I do it, I immediately build that bond.
If I just send postcards, I can’t do that.
If I just call you and call you and cal you, I can’t do
that. If I just spam you every single day, I can’t do that.
It’s the three, like a chair with three legs on it. If the
chair has one leg, it won’t stand up. If you have three
legs, you have stability.
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The reason why people don’t make money in Mastermind is that
they refuse to follow the three-step system. I wish it was
just one-step. I did have it where we did $10 million in a
year, and all we did was email.
Those were great days. I’d stay up until 2 A.M., talking to
everyone about how big our checks were, sleep until 10 A.M.,
get up and go have a $100 lunch and have fifty people signed
up by noon.
I’d go to the swimming pool, go play golf, come back home –
and another 42 people had signed up and I had people calling
my cell phone, saying “Hey, what are we doing? Thanks –
great – when’s the next conference call?”
That was great; but what was that? Was that a long-term,
residual income? That was a temporary residual income. That
stock shot to the moon, and it came down as fast as it shot
up there – and we sold the stock. That’s the business.
If you want to be in this business 25 years from today,
making the kind of money you want to make, you have to
follow this system. Within this system, you can plug in any
business that you want.
By the way, when the postcard shows up – and I want to
reiterate this -- I call them one time, I email them every
week, and I mail them a postcard one time.
If and when they opt in to the website, I mail them this.
10% of the people join within the first 24 hours after
visiting the website. So this will pass in the mail to them.
Then I make the follow up phone call. If I mail the
postcard on a Tuesday, when do I call them? Next Tuesday.
Why?
Remember what I was saying earlier? When was the last time
someone sent you something in the mail to join, since
January? Direct mail?
If you want to follow a system, write this site down:
www.OmahaSteaks.com. I’m a big steak guy. Opt in to their
website. Order one of their packages that is worth $600 and
you pay $14 for it.
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Watch their marketing follow up. Watch the emails that come
in. Watch the direct mail packages that come in.
Don’t buy from them for three months, and listen to what the
person says when they call you; “Hey, Mr. Blackman, as a
previous customer, we want to offer you a special today on
our steak kabobs.” That’s marketing.
Is Omaha Steaks a multi-multi-million dollar company? Yes.
Do the principles in traditional business apply to network
marketing? Yes. So why don’t people teach them?
“Well, just get a list of family and friends. And let’s all
go over to their house.”
That builds temporary residual income. And I did that
several times. I built a group up here in Amway of 100
people in six months, from zero.
I knew no one down here. We moved from Bartlesville to
Norman and I knew nobody. I’m sitting in front of a group of
100 people. Every one of them were flat broke and couldn’t
afford anything, but I built a group of a hundred people. I
strong-armed everybody in but I didn’t have a system.
Go to your list. We’d have Sunday night team callings. I’d
say, “Josh, get your list together, I’m going to meet you at
your house, and we’re going to call your names. I’m going to
call them for you.”
I was a workhorse. But if the products were so good – why
are all those hundred people gone now? They’re gone because
I held all 100 of them in, I held their hand, and I kept
them from drowning. As soon as I wanted to take a break, it
goes away.
My strategy was this. This was my thought process. I don’t
want to be in the printing business for the rest of my life
because of the fact that I know what the results are. It’s
not bad, it’s just not my choice. It was my dad’s company.
I thought I wanted to take it over, but then I changed my
mind, because he was just such an SOB about it.
I didn’t have any money to invest in real estate. I bought
the Carleton Sheets stuff, Dave Delgado, all those guys – no
money down. I did all that. It didn’t work for me.
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I didn’t have any money to invest in the stock market,
bought all those courses, they didn’t work for me. This was
the only business that I saw in which a poor, broke kid from
Oklahoma could make six figures. This business model does
not discriminate against you. People will, but the business
model won’t.
My thought process was this. “Why can’t I make $100,000 a
year in two programs and bullet-proof myself?”
This was going to be my primary and this was going to be my
secondary.
In my weakest moment, when I had no one in my downline,
after the Le Patch deal went south, this is what I came up
with.
“Why can’t I make $100,000 a year in my primary and also
bullet-proof myself and have a backup income?”
In other words, why invest everything in just one stock? You
have mutual funds. I understand the dynamic that you can’t
be in four nutritional programs and I understand why that
doesn’t work and I hope everyone here does too.
I understand that there is a code of ethics that addresses
when you personally sponsor someone, about taking them
somewhere else. We have to follow those in this industry or
it’s like broken glass. Unfortunately, that’s just the way
it works.
I want to make $100,000 a year in my primary and $100,000 a
year in my secondary. The secondary is leads and training,
the primary is your 2-5 year gig, whatever that is.
What are you hot on right now? Is it the juice, the patch,
the cookie, technology? It doesn’t matter, but I guarantee
that whatever you’re in now, within 2-5 years you’ll be out
of it.
It isn’t because of you, either. It’s because something’s
going to happen to that stock that’s going to force people
to quit. Remember, every business that you’ve been in
before, why aren’t all those people still in auto-ship? Why
aren’t you still getting the same check as when you left it?
Why is that?
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You have to understand that it’s because they don’t
understand the dynamic of this system. They don’t have two
streams of income. This is always going to sting you.
Have you all heard the scorpion and the frog story? The
frog’s sitting there by the stream and he needs to get
across to his family. Somehow the family got on a leaf and
went across without him and Daddy Frog’s sitting there all
by himself.
Up walks the scorpion, the archenemy of the frog.
The frog starts scooting away and he says, “Hey, what are
you doing?” and the scorpion says, “I need to get across
too. If you ride on a lily pad, will you put me on your
shoulders and take me across the river?”
The frog says, “You’re my archenemy. You’re going to sting
me.”
“No, I won’t,” says the scorpion, “I promise you. It’s going
to be different this time.”
What does the frog do? He says, “Okay, here comes a lily
pad. Jump on my back.”
The stream starts taking them across. They get halfway
across the stream and the scorpion stings the frog. The
frog’s going to drown along with the scorpion.
The frog turns to the scorpion and asks, “Why did you do
that?”
The scorpion says, “Because I’m a scorpion and that’s what I
do: I sting frogs. I will say and do whatever I have to do,
to sting you.”
MLM programs that you get involved with will not last 25-30
years of steady growth of checks. That is a myth and it’s a
reality I had to learn. I didn’t like the idea of jumping
from program to program every 2-5 years. Who would like to
get married every 2-5 years?
I’ve been through a divorce, so I understand. I consider
being in business like a marriage. You put your heart, soul
and commitment into it.
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Unfortunately, I wanted this business to do this in my
heart, and when it did this, I became depressed and almost
an alcoholic, because I couldn’t change it, no matter what
the pay plan was, what the product line was; couldn’t do
anything about it.
I decided to either get in the industry and dissect it or
just get the heck out. I went and sat for an insurance exam.
I was going to get into the insurance business. I went out
on my first appointment and I realized that I couldn’t do
this. I came back and built this system.
The secondary program, Mastermind, will save your life. You
can make more money in it than you can with your primary to
begin with. It’s a two-tier program right now. We pay 15%
on the first level, 40% on the second.
For every person that’s in your downline who spends $100 on
your product, they’re going to spend $200 to advertise it.
If you have a downline of a hundred people, and they’re all
active, and you have $10,000 a month in volume, your average
commission check’s going to be 10% on that, whatever program
you’re in, so you’re earning $1000.
If you have 100 people buying $100 a month in product,
$10,000 a month in volume, you’re going to be earning about
$1000. Does everybody agree with that?
All the while, those same hundred people are out spending an
average $200 a month to advertise this business. Let me ask
you a question. How much commission are you getting off
that? Zero.
That bothered me. The advertisers are getting twice as much
as my primary program, and the advertisers don’t give a darn
whether the ad works or not. When is the last time you got a
refund from the post office for your mailing that didn’t
work – or paid for a full page ad that didn’t work and they
paid you a commission? They don’t.
This was the hole in the network marketing MLM system. This
is how you bullet proof yourself. This is a known fact.
They spend twice as much on advertising the business than
they do for the product and service on which you earn a
commission.
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In MLM Mastermind, we pay 15% at the first level, 40% the
second level. It wouldn’t matter if we paid you 1%, because
you’re going to be getting more with us than you’re getting
right now. That’s how you get people who tell you no to your
primary business. That’s how you make money off them. That’s
one way to make money when people tell you no.
You show the leader who has a hundred people in his group
this and ask him how much money he makes from all the
advertising dollars. He’s going to say zero. You ask him if
he’d like to tap into some of that income. That’s why
Mastermind works, because it makes sense.
And it’s built upon a foundation that will never go away.
People are always going to spend more money promoting the
business than they are on the product or service for which
you receive a commission. That’s a fact that you can’t
change.
We’re going to do that with leads, books and tapes. Earlier
when I asked how many people had bought any educational
materials, everybody raised their hand and shook their heads
like, “I spent too much money on that stuff.”
We pay you 50% commission of the profit on that book or
tape. For leads we pay 15% and 40%. When you build up a
group of twenty people, that’s $700 a month. Anybody got a
calculator in here today? Okay, then look on the sheet.
I’m excited to sign them up, I’m excited to teach them this
system and let them know that if they decide to work with me
and just put in 20 people, it’s as if you walked down to the
bank and deposited $168,000.
Does that get them thinking, “Wow, I’ve never heard it like
that before.”
Which is easier to do, go save $168,000 or go build a group
of 20?
How do you build a group of 20? Can you sponsor one person a
month out of your 100 leads? Everyone agree that’s pretty
realistic? That’s 1%. You get 100 leads a month from us.
Again, we have packages all the way up to 250, 500 and 1000,
but I do everything on the base of 100 leads.
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I’m going to tell Josh, when I’m prospecting with him about
our system.
“Josh, can you come home from work, call five people, send
five emails and drop five postcards in the mail? Can you do
that?”
If Josh won’t do that, is that an indicator to me? Yes.
So I’m asking my prospects questions about what they will
do.
“Do you see the brilliance in the system? Did you know how
much money it would take in your bank account in order to
earn $700 a month?”
“No, never even thought about it.”
Has everyone heard of a CD – a certificate of deposit? Yes.
I’m applying traditional principles blended in with network
marketing. That’s how I get people to know, trust and like
me, because I’m teaching them, I’m not selling them. I’m
teaching them the business model.
I’m going to ask, “Can you come home and do five a day,
Monday through Friday, for twenty days a month? If you can
do that, Josh, and we put in one person a month, at the end
of four months, what do we have? Four people in the front
line.”
“What if on month five we teach these people how to do the
same thing? They do their four months. At the end of eight
months you have a group of twenty.”
“Josh, is it realistic to say that if you work with me over
the next eight months, following my system, that we should
have close to a group of twenty people and you’re earning
$700 a month? Can you see yourself doing that, at a 1%
response rate, at a 99% failure rate?”
Do you see how I sign up 20-60 people a month? I’m solving a
problem, I’m offering a solution.
It doesn’t matter what your primary is, then. Whatever
you’re in, they’ll get in then.
“Oh, by the way, you need to take a look at XYZ Company.”
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You can use Mastermind as a way to build your primary,
because I will guarantee you that in 2-5 years, your primary
is going to change.
When you lead with your primary, and it’s always changing,
how does that make you look as a marketer, as a source of
information that I should know, like and trust? If I’m your
stockbroker and I call you every single month with a
different stock, how is that going to make you feel about
me? Just trying to earn a commission.
You know that you can’t juggle stocks, unless they go up
every month, to make a long term residual income. So if my
primary is always going to do this, how do I look like
Steady Eddie, MLM Expert Man?
I sell leads and training. I lead with that, and then
whatever the program of the day is, we get in. And if they
get into the primary program with me, what do I tell them?
I tell them, “Bill, there’s a chance that this is going to
last for 2-5 years, because that’s the nature of the
business.”
Is Bill going to appreciate me more in two years when the
company goes out of business?
“You told me that would probably happen; I’m sure glad I’m
in that leads deal with you, because my check’s up to $1,500
a month in that thing. What are we going to do now, Robert,
what’s our next program?”
Do you see the relationship I’ve built with my team? They
follow me through programs because I’m consistent and I tell
them up front that the business model is inconsistent – but
I’m not. Do you see the difference?
Do you see how I’ve been able to stay in the business for 25
years? If you go back and look at a magazine from 1993,
you’ll see a full page ad of me there. You look in a
magazine from last month; you’ll see a full page ad of me
there. How many people can say they’ve done that?
It’s because they’ve all led with the primary – nutrition,
technology, binary, matrix, hybrid – you lose credibility
and you run through your people. It is so hard to build your
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in-house list; you have to protect your in-house list. The
way you protect them is to educate them in the truth.
Is it hard to generate leads of people who know, like and
trust you? Yes. Why would I want to pour water on that
fire, just for cash? If it’s hard just to build the list
up, and it’s hard to get people to maintain that, wouldn’t I
want to protect my list as if it were in my safe deposit
box, or like it’s a $1 million savings bond that my dad gave
me?
So why don’t we do that with our downline? Because people
are afraid to teach them that the primary isn’t really the
primary. The lead program is really the primary. But they
don’t like to teach that. I don’t know why.
How many people have you heard say, “I used to make a
$10,000 monthly check”?
Where are they now? They lost their leads, their credibility
and they go back to this: “Yeah, right, I put everything
into it, I had $1000 in inventory, and that embarrassed me
when that thing went out of business. What a loser program
that was. I’m not going to do anything with you ever again.”
I have been through six programs that have either closed or
something has happened in the last decade. I have people
who ask me “What is it now, Rob?”
Tell them the truth up front. I want you to write this
down, because I think it will change the way you prospect.
I talk to my prospects and I teach them as if I was teaching
my children how to make long-term residual income. I don’t
talk down to them, but I educate them.
When I’m dead and gone, do I want my kids to know how to
make long-term residual income? Yes. Would I reveal what I
reveal to you, to them? Now, here’s the real truth. Don’t
believe all the other hype. There is no walk away residual
income.
Primary businesses go out every 2-5 years. I would tell my
kids that. Would you tell your kids that, if you knew it?
“Here’s how to bullet proof your income. Here’s how to make
money off Dad’s ideas for the rest of your life.”
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That’s how I treat my prospects and that’s how I make
Mastermind work.
Let’s take a little bit of a break and let’s come back and
do some other advanced tactics training, okay?
- End of Transcript
From my family to yours, I truly hope you enjoyed today’s
training.
I also invite you to join my “MLM Mastermind Team”.
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Or, call me at my office number listed below!
God Bless,
Robert Blackman
(405) 833-6899
PS Success in MLM is about “modeling”.
Don’t try to re-invent the wheel, so to speak. Realize the
program I have just taught you took me 26 years to perfect
and implement.
Now, take my advice, apply it to your life and succeed!
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