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André Augustinus 10 September 2001 Common Applications to Prototype A two way learning process

André Augustinus 10 September 2001 Common Applications to Prototype A two way learning process

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André Augustinus10 September 2001

Common Applications to Prototype

A two way learning process

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Introduction

Why seeking common solutions?• Avoid duplication of work in the detectors• More efficient support from experts• Bulk purchase may reduce hardware costs• Spares can be shared; thus less spares• Easier maintenance, very important in the longer

term future• Aim for a coherent, homogeneous DCS

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Common Solutions

Try to find communalities across detectors• Need requirements

Look what solutions already exist or are proposed• In ALICE• In other experiments (JCOP)• In the accelerator and services

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Common Solutions

Currently we concentrate on the process level of DCS

For solutions we concentrate on:• CERN accepted commercial solutions• CERN supported solutions (IT/CO, JCOP, …)

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Prototyping

We would like to participate actively in the prototyping:• To learn the problems one might encounter• To learn and test current technologies

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Prototyping

How will we proceed• Participate actively in getting clear requirements

• This usually involves several iterations

• Based on the requirements, propose a solution that would fulfill the requirements (with help of experts in e.g. IT/CO)

• If accepted, provide support for the implementation and commissioning

• Collect feedback

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Objectives

The objectives of prototyping• Validate current ideas

• Ease of implementation and maintenance• Evaluate performance and reliability issues• Evaluate scalability

• Validate possible “final solutions” on “real systems”

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Objectives

The objectives of prototyping• Compose a “catalogue” of tested and supported

solutions, easy to implement and maintain• Guidelines• Framework, examples

Inconveniences: • To start it might be heavy on resources (manpower,

money and time), but it’s not a waste, it is an investment

• System might at first be “over-dimensioned”

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Current status

Currently concentrating mainly on the process level of DCS

Two pilots:• TPC

• High Voltage• Low Voltage• Cooling• Fieldcage (drift field)

• HMPID• High Voltage• Low Voltage• Fluid system

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Current status (HMPID)

Started well before the central team existed Gained a lot of experience with hardware

and software that is most likely to be used more generally in ALICE

• CAEN HV, PLC (Siemens), PVSS, DIM, SMI

Should make this expertise available to a wider public (even outside ALICE)

We learn more from them then they from us

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Current status (TPC)

Established first contacts with the various sub-systems: HV, LV, cooling and Fieldcage

High and Low Voltage:• Based on tests and surveys the TPC found a

devices that satisfied their needs: ISEG for HV and Wiener for LV

• We are currently investigating how these devices can fit in the global DCS picture (mainly a communication issue)

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Current status (TPC)

Cooling:• A test system has been built and is in principle

running. But might not be the most optimal choice to apply to the “final system”

• In the process of gathering more detailed requirements

• Based on this we should be able to propose a solution applicable to the “final system”; and adaptable to other detector needs

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Current status (TPC)

Fieldcage:• HV Power Supply, Current monitor, Cooling, Internal safety

• Most advanced as far as our involvement is concerned.

• Currently refining the user requirements for the system. We are preparing a third iteration.

• Close to proposing a solution that in principle should be a “final solution”.

• The prototype control system should be running by the end of the year.

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Current status (Testlab)

Announced in May, but little progress during summer• Siemens PLC is installed

Foreseen in the near future:• More “typical” hardware to be installed• Develop simple demo-applications

Goals:• Get acquainted with hardware and software• Use as a development platform for prototypes

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Future developments

Continue work on pilots Start work on a “vertical slice” of ALICE

• Build a control system from the hardware up to the highest level

• Validate the proposed architecture of the DCS (see a later talk)

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Conclusions

Inform us on what you are doing We need your requirements

• You’ll be getting more questionnaires• You’ll be invited for meetings• You’ll get examples/instructions to prepare your URD

The ideal DCS would have for all systems standard solutions, no “special cases”.

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Conclusions

We will not force you into a solution that will not match your requirements

We might be annoying you now, but you will profit from it in the long run

We are a collaboration