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2019 SUMMARY REPORT
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Global Conversation:ReinventingDemocracySESSION BRIEFINGS
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WELCOME REMARKS
Achilles Tsaltas, President, Athens Democracy Forum
Achilles Tsaltas welcomed delegates and esteemed guests to the seventh edition
of the Athens Democracy Forum, introducing the five challenges of populism, new
communication technologies, enormous gaps in personal wealth, �������������the shifting terrain
of the political-party system, and a sense of alienation and loss among many people,
that represent the key themes for this year’s program. Reiterating the importance
of preserving democracy as the only viable form of social organization, he outlined
democracy as a constant process of reinvention and revival.
Mr. Tsaltas warned that many of today’s democracies are so polarized, that they
seem paralyzed. While optimists view the current threats to democracy as a natural
process of decay and revival, he said, the pessimists are likely to consider the
potential for decline into chaos and tyranny. He declared that this year’s conference
brings together a sampling of both optimists and pessimists among participants,
stating that through their debates and presentations, delegates will be able to glean
a better understanding of where democracy might be headed.
Mr. Tsaltas explained that the Athens Democracy Forum is becoming a nerve center
for democratic debate, and described the new structure of the event, now hosted
by the Democracy & Culture Foundation, a nonprofit entity, in association with The
New York Times.
Mr. Tsaltas thanked all conference partners and sponsors for their commitment.
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Annika Savill, Executive Head, UN Democracy Fund, United Nations
Annika Savill underlined the task in front of delegates at this year’s event, highlighting
the inspiration they might derive from the City of Athens itself, as the cradle of
democracy. She spoke of recent developments in Sweden where a governmental
proposal to eliminate the teachings of ancient Greece from the school curriculum
met with uproar, leading to a reversal in the government’s position. Pericles is alive
and well in the classrooms of Sweden, she declared.
As head of the UN Democracy Fund, Ms. Savill stated that this is the only UN
department containing ‘democracy’ in its name, advising that conversations about
democracy were rare at the time of the inaugural Athens Democracy Forum back in
2013. She explained that the word ‘democracy’ appears nowhere in the UN Charter,
as membership of the organization is not determined by whether a state embraces
democracy, or indeed its capacity to pay lip service to it. She commented that within
the UN tradition, there is no single democratic model that fits all societies, and
equally no yardstick by which its ideals can be measured in practice. The focus has
tended toward what democracy is not, rather than what democracy is, she added.
Ms. Savill reiterated the words of UN Secretary General António Guterres in his
endorsement message: “This year’s Forum takes place when trust is low, and anxiety
is high.” She urged delegates to rise to the challenge of updating the traditional
model by listening to communities, understanding that democracy is not just about
elections, exploring tools to enhance civic engagement that foster inclusion beyond
the political class, and taking young people very seriously.
In a call to arms, Ms. Savill reminded delegates that if Athenians did it 2,500 years
ago, they could do the same today. Summoning delegates to be bold, she urged
them to ask themselves: What would Pericles have done?
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Kostas Bakoyannis, Mayor of Athens, Hellenic Republic
Mayor Bakoyannis described the Athens Democracy Forum as an institution – a
laboratory of ideas, and an incubator of novel thinking. He emphasized the Forum’s
importance at the forefront of efforts to rebrand Athens as a welcoming, forward-
looking, self-confident metropolis; a capital that is as proud of its ancient, glorious
past as it is of its modern self.
Mayor Bakoyannis described the challenges faced by democracy in the last few
years as a crisis of confidence, advocating the need to think in new paradigms
as the traditional political categories of left and right have become obsolete. He
also suggested that the language of centuries past is unhelpful in understanding
and responding to 21st-century challenges, including the fifth industrial revolution,
population flows and climate change. Denouncing populism and elitism as the twin
enemies of democracy, he stated that we need a new, inclusive agenda that leaves
no one behind, especially those who feel disconnected and disenfranchised.
Quoting Winston Churchill, Mayor Bakoyannis admitted that democracy is an
imperfect system of government. He stated his view that, in recent years, we
have focused on the big picture and been rather overwhelmed. To counter this, he
highlighted the importance of local government as the closest democratic institutions
to the people, and the catalytic role they can – and should – play in delivering real,
tangible solutions to real problems, and building bridges in place of walls.
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OPENING KEYNOTE ADDRESS
Donald Tusk, President, European Council
President Tusk shared a personal story of how reading Homer’s “Iliad” before he was
10, and everything else there was to read in Polish about ancient Greek history and
philosophy, inspired him to become a historian. He spoke of later defending Creon
in a secondary school debate after reading Sophocles’ “Antigone,” and the influence
this potentially had on his decision to enter politics.
President Tusk outlined violence, lies, hate speech, myths and resentment as the tools
of today’s politics; understood as war, even if shots are not fired everywhere, adding
that emotions have replaced reason. In political mathematics, he warned, dividing
and subtracting have displaced multiplying and adding. He outlined the challenge
of making politics about the common good as it once was. He spoke of Thucydides’
reflections on the ancient Greek term ‘stasis,’ meaning a part or a fraction, denoting
a state of public disorder and chaos resulting from political passions and a constant
escalation of internal conflicts. He asked the audience, are we not today facing our
own stasis, amplified by the technological revolution and mass social phenomena?
Are Europe and the world not turning, before our eyes, into ancient Korkyra? He
posited that President Trump’s United States, Brexit and permanent parliamentary
crisis in the United Kingdom, and the undermining of liberal democratic foundations
in some countries in East Central Europe and on the border of Russia and Ukraine
would certainly give Thucydides something to write about.
Speaking from the heart, President Tusk acknowledged the decision to present this
year’s City of Athens Democracy Award posthumously to Pawel Adamowicz, who was
murdered in January this year. He quoted the last words spoken by the former mayor
of his city, “Gdánsk wants to be a city of solidarity. This is a wonderful time of sharing
what is good,” lamenting that his friend and close collaborator fell victim to the very
hatred he had opposed all of his life. He was not an ancient hero, conquering or
destroying other cities, he said, instead building his city with the belief that not
everything is lost, that love is stronger than hate, that solidarity is stronger than
egoism. Reinforcing his own personal belief that not everything is lost, President
Tusk wished delegates the same faith.
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PANEL DISCUSSION
Prof. Wole Soyinka, Playwright, Poet, Novelist, Essayist and Nobel Literature Laureate
Magdalena Adamowicz, Member of the European Parliament (accepting the 2019
City of Athens Democracy Award on behalf of the late Pawel� Adamowicz)
Ory Okolloh, Managing Director, Africa, Luminate, and Member of the Kofi Annan
Commission on Elections and Democracy in the Digital Age
Moderated by Roger Cohen, Athens Democracy Forum Host and Op-Ed Columnist,
The New York Times.
Ms. Adamowicz opened the discussion by explaining that Poland, once so embracing
of the liberal ideals of the West but now forging an illiberal path that her late
husband stood against, is today very divided because of populism and nationalism.
She highlighted the importance of finding a solution together, and her hope that a
definition of hate speech can be agreed in order to formulate a sound framework
of conduct to educate people, especially young people. Democracy is not a given
forever, she said. We have to nourish it.
Professor Soyinka stated that the problem with democracy today is that it is too
laid back, leaving everybody free to define it, especially oppressive governments.
He described the United States as a center of contradictions and an enigma,
comparing its position as leader of the democratic world with its favorable treatment
of questionable democracies. He suggested that if there were a competition, a kind
of counter-Olympics for the least-democratic nations of the world, the United States
would qualify on behalf of the Americas. On the tolerance of undemocratic regimes
by the United States, Ms. Okolloh expressed her view that there have always been
double standards. She acknowledged that previously, political discussions would
have taken place in a dark, back room, but that because of technology, it is now
very transparent – perhaps too transparent – and that technology makes it very
hard for consensus. She articulated democracy in terms of a social contract
whereby people vote, obey the rule of law, and so on, but warning that governments
are failing to deliver on public goods in return. She gave the examples of the ‘born
frees’ complaining of high unemployment, struggling education and public services,
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and the situation in Kenya where people basically self-provide for everything. By
comparison, she said, the China model is at least providing something for the
people.
Professor Soyinka reiterated Ms. Orkolloh’s point that the social contract is very
dangerously neglected. If the people feel that democracy is not rewarding in terms
of the day-to-day ability to survive, he warned, they become available for anti-
democratic forces. He highlighted the obligation of governments to democratize
resources and social opportunities, otherwise they are throwing the populace to the
wolves. On the democratization of information through the internet, he stated his
opinion that the optimism surrounding the liberation potential of these forces has
been dashed by the users.
The panel proposed a number of solutions to the technological threat to liberal
democracy. Ms. Orkolloh declared that a lot of social media platforms were built
on the assumption that human beings are fundamentally good. She stated that we
now know that this is not universally the case, and proposed rethinking the rules
of the platforms through regulation. Professor Soyinka advocated a two-pronged
approach through educational enlightenment and sanctions against the individual
enemies of democracy, including the elites. It has to be controlled, he cautioned.
Ms. Adamowicz agreed that, for populists and fundamentalists, the internet is the
most dangerous weapon we ever invented; a weapon that is used without control.
Highlighting the importance of freedom of speech and expression, and the work of
the #Imagine There’s No Hate campaign, she concluded with a simple, heartfelt,
solution: education, education, education.
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WELCOME AND PRESENTATION
Achilles Tsaltas, President, Athens Democracy Forum
Mr. Tsaltas introduced the new format of this year’s Athens Democracy Forum.
Fundamentally, he said, we decided that we wanted the Forum to grow by becoming
consequential.
In order to achieve this, he continued, we decided that we needed to take the Forum
out of the commercial structure of the conference department of The New York
Times, and dedicate our efforts to building a new, nonprofit structure around it.
The New York Times, being the independent media institution that it is, cannot get
involved in activism or advocacy, he explained. Yet democracy screams for activism
and advocacy, especially in the times in which we live, he added.
With these key objectives at the fore, Mr. Tsaltas explained that The New York Times
has entrusted him with the establishment of the Democracy & Culture Foundation with
the purpose of hosting the Athens Democracy Forum. Articulating the Foundation’s
mission in terms of empowering society through better governance and citizen
engagement, he defined the very simple impact chain through which the Foundation
– and the Forum – aim to bring about meaningful change: think – talk – do.
The Athens Democracy Forum falls squarely into the ‘talk’ sector, he confirmed. But
organized under the auspices of the Foundation imbues the event with the freedom
and the flexibility to partner with others in the impact chain – the thinkers and doers
– in order to make things happen, he continued.
We are all in this together, and we all need to listen to what everybody has to say to
come up with the solutions, he implored.
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OPENING PROVOCATION: COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE
Lex Paulson, Director, School of Collective Intelligence, UM6P, Morocco
Staying true to the session heading, Mr. Paulson opened the day’s proceedings by
provoking the audience: When it comes to democracy, we have all been living a lie.
Referring to the United States Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, he
advised delegates that the word ‘democracy’ appears nowhere. This is not a mistake,
he insisted, as the aim of the founding fathers was to establish a republic, not design
a democracy.
Quoting Benjamin Rush in 1789, Mr. Paulson articulated his view of this American
– and now global – system, in which citizens were not meant to rule, but to choose
among their betters in what he referred to as a government of the people, for the
people, by a very small, disproportionately wealthy, Ivy League-educated, mostly
male, sliver of the people. The right to vote was a major step forward, but it was not
the flowering of democracy, he warned. In fact, the widely held belief that democratic
power is derived from those who vote in elections is another layer of the same lie.
We do not live in democracies, he stated. We live in republics with slight democratic
flavouring.
Having revealed the deception of what we understand as a key pillar of democracy,
Mr. Paulson invited the audience to imagine what real citizen power would look like,
incorporating the key aspects of coming together to observe, interpret, generate
new ideas, deliberate options, implement strategies, and pool our collective wisdom.
He insisted that it was this wider range of capacities that defined the scope of
citizen power in ancient Athens. Democracy was not just voting once a year, he
emphasized. It was a constant process of learning; of generating new knowledge.
Individual experts work best when problems are well defined, he stated. But experts
and algorithms working alone will be defeated by the big, complex, public problems
we currently face, from climate change to migration to economic inequality. These
are the kinds of problems where a very large number of eyes and ears, of ideas and
experiences, can produce better solutions, he declared.
Mr. Paulson suggested that if we are going to enter an age of collective intelligence,
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we need to expand our idea of what counts as expertise and solicit it from new
places. Democracy is in crisis, he warned, because it is not yet democracy. He stated
that republics from ancient Rome to right now were designed to produce ruling
elites which, as we have found, tend to produce decisions that will help people like
them. What we need to do in this century, he suggested, is expand the depth of the
republican model, and reinvent our institutions to make collective intelligence – and
thus democracy – finally possible.
In relation to climate change, Mr. Paulson stated firmly that if humanity wants to
survive what is coming, we will have to move from fragile hierarchies to resilient
networks, from closed to open data, and from guarded to distributed forms of power.
As climate collapse accelerates, he warned, it will be the societies that bet on
collective intelligence – on the active engagement and pooled expertise of citizens
– that are going to win this century. And to those who fear the incompetence or
disinclination of everyday people to rise to the challenge, he offered a simple, but
compelling message of conviction: When people put down their phones and start
reasoning, big things happen.
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OPENING KEYNOTE CONVERSATION
Kyriakos Mitsotakis, Prime Minister, Hellenic Republic
In conversation with Roger Cohen, Athens Democracy Forum Host and Op-Ed Columnist,
The New York Times
Prime Minister Mitsotakis summarized recent events in Greece after the country
emerged from the biggest crisis of any mature democracy after the Second World
War. As the first to enter the populist wave, he said, we were the first to enter what
he calls the politics of post-populism, following his election earlier this year. He
stated, however, that this was not a top-down exercise. It was very much an exercise
where the political narrative of the country found common ground with society which
matured from the bottom up. And in that sense, he said, those who predicted the
demise of democracy were proved wrong, at least as far as Greece was concerned.
Speaking about the 2015 referendum when the overwhelming desire of the Greek
people to end austerity was effectively ignored by former Prime Minister Tspiras,
he expressed his skeptical view of referenda, affirming that he continues to believe
in representative democracy. He is also a believer that parties, as the mechanism
through which representative democracy is expressed, can change. He suggested
that they could be more participatory, become more open, and engage in more
public debates.
Acknowledging that his own back ground makes him a ‘poster boy’ of the elite, Prime
Minister Mitsotakis affirmed that we have to make sure governments are not only
representing the interests of a very narrow group who end up working in their own
interests. In Greece, he stated, once we managed to convince enough people that
we are here to work for everyone – particularly those who are less privileged – and
we made addressing income disparity our number one priority, they were willing to
give us a chance to implement our program. More broadly, he stated, there was a
massive failure of elites to understand the new cleavages that emerged as a result of
technological change, globalization, and the huge impact of income concentration,
especially in capitalist societies. He couched the issue in very simple terms: The
fact is that lots of people just felt left behind. There are further cleavages, he added,
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between cities and the rural back country, and between young people and older
people. He stated that elites failed to understand that the grievances upon which the
populist backlash was based were absolutely real. Ultimately, he explained, the root
cause of Greek discontent was not the nativist identity politics that you see in other
countries, but a profound economic crisis.
Prime Minister Mitsotakis offered some interesting similarities between what
happened in Greece in 2015 and what is happening in Britain today, outlining a
society that is utterly divided on an existential problem, but lacking clear political
alignment in support of competing views due to divisions within political parties. In
such instances, he warned, an election cannot solve the problem.
Turning to the general sense of optimism in Greece, and the widespread belief that
the country is finally leaving the crisis behind, Prime Minister Mitsotakis declined
to frame the positive sentiment surrounding his new government in terms of the
classic honeymoon period. Instead, he chose to define the current feel-good factor
as a ‘rational honeymoon,’ based on the belief that things can truly change for
everyday people. Describing the EU, for all its shortcomings, as a unique experiment
in collective transnational cooperation which has brought tremendous wealth and
prosperity to the continent, he declared his hope that Europe will continue to be at
the forefront of many important policy debates that will shape the future of the world
in the face of unprecedented global challenges over the next decades.
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PANEL DISCUSSION: US AND THEM
Nathan Law, Hong Kong Politician and Activist
Kassem Eid, Human Rights Activist and Author
Sergey A. Karaganov, Scientific Head and Dean of the School of International
Economics and Foreign Affairs of the National Research University Higher School of
Economics (NRU HSE) and Honorary Chairman of the Presidium of the Council on
Foreign and Defense Policy
Moderated by Katrin Bennhold, Berlin Bureau Chief, The New York Times
Mr. Law stated that democracy for Hong Kong was promised in the 1990s, as
enshrined in international agreements which China is wilfully circumventing. The
protesters are not fighting for independence or separatism, he confirmed. Rather,
he and the pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong are fighting for democracy
and autonomy for their hometown, which he declared is being manipulated by
tyranny. He outlined the Chinese tactic of exacerbating differences among people by
using misinformation campaigns to create conflict and hatred. He pointed out that
nationalism has been a longstanding weapon of the Chinese regime, emphasizing
that people in mainland China do not have access to foreign information because of
the internet firewall, so they cannot know the truth about what is happening in Hong
Kong. The West blindly believed that China would open up because of economic
freedom, he stated, but there is no sign of this in the political sphere.
Wearing a mask to highlight the sarin gas attack he survived in Syria in 2013, and to
demonstrate his solidarity with the Hong Kong pro-democracy supporters following
the recent ban by Chinese authorities, Mr. Eid declared that politicians hide behind
masks of lies and hypocrisy every day. Defining the Assad regime as a horrible mix
of communism and fascism, he described growing up in poverty and the 2011
uprising, which they had hoped the West would respond to, to bring an end to the
tyranny his country had suffered for four decades. He told delegates that after two
years, he began a 30-day hunger strike to raise global awareness of the regime’s
‘starvation and siege until surrender’ tactic, lamenting that, although he received a
lot of support internationally, it was not enough. He recounted his two-year visit to
the United States to speak to the powerful “people with the masks,” only to end up
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living in the place where Nazis are on the rise. The same fascists he ran away from,
he lamented, were waiting for him in Germany.
Mr. Karaganov expressed his view that liberal democracy is not a panacea, and
that the way it has developed over the past 30 years is unsavable, because it runs
against the basic value of mankind. He stated that countries internationally have
more freedom than ever to choose their cultural paths and economic models and,
even in some authoritarian countries, people have more opportunity to influence
those in power because of the information revolution. He defended Russia’s behavior
in terms of protecting its freedom and sovereignty, as well as helping humanity to
do away with the ‘Western yoke.’ Mr. Eid warned that the misinformation campaign
deployed by Russia is turning everyone against each other. He insisted that while
the West was busy celebrating the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Nazis and the
communists were working on their successful comeback. Democracies are under
attack, he announced, and if you do not fight for democracy, you do not deserve it. Mr.
Karaganov explained that the so-called populists are born of the inner contradiction
within Western societies. Stating that Russia also had elites that disregarded the
masses, he sees populists and Trump as a natural, defensive mechanism in an ailing
body trying to rid itself of toxins which, depending on the concentration, Western
societies may eventually recuperate from.
Mr. Law admitted that democracy is not perfect, emphasizing the need to refine it
as it unfolds, as opposed to abandoning it. Referring to the recent tensions between
China and the N.B.A., he affirmed the need to be aware of the infiltration capacity
of these regimes. In a passionate call to action, he warned that our failure to shine
a light on human rights abuses for fear of jeopardizing economic gain, will inevitably
compromise our moral stance in speaking up on other issues. We cannot bend
over just because of commercial interest, he warned. We have to speak up for the
struggles worldwide.
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PANEL DISCUSSION: THE COST OF INEQUALITY
Paul Polman, Former C.E.O., Unilever, and Co-Founder and Chair, Imagine
Margot Wallström, Former Minister for Foreign Affairs, Sweden
Anna Diamantopoulou, President, DIKTIO Network for Reform in Greece and Europe
Moderated by Liz Alderman, Chief European Business Correspondent, The New York
Times
Ms. Wallström emphasized rising inequality as a major threat to democracy. She
outlined the social, economic and political costs that have the capacity to undermine
faith in democracy, if it cannot produce growth and a better future for them. Ms.
Diamantopoulou commented on the disruptive impact of the fourth industrial
revolution on labor markets, due to increased automation and a lack of skills for the
new types of jobs that will be created. In terms of the ever-expanding gig economy,
she outlined diminished rights for workers who are increasingly referred to as ‘service
providers.’ Combined with the changes to be wrought within the organization of
companies themselves, the lack of certainty and stability represents fertile ground
for populism.
Mr. Polman outlined the progress we are making globally in terms of lifting people
out of poverty and providing access to clean water and sanitation, but declared that
the trend is not our friend, as we are simply not moving fast enough. He outlined a
very straightforward correlation with democracy, in that people who feel that they are
better off are willing to accept different modes of democracy. But when economies
become more difficult, he warned, populism, nationalism, racism, and xenophobia
take over. He stated that for the last 20 or 30 years, economies have failed to provide
meaningful improvements for many in society. While the banks were too big to fail
in the financial crisis, he declared, the people were certainly too small to matter.
He cautioned that our ineptitude to deal with the burning issue of climate change is
pushing more people into poverty again, stating that it is impossible to address these
burning issues if business does not step up to the plate. Business cannot survive in
societies that fail, nor can it be a bystander, he cautioned.
Ms. Wallström agreed that democracy will only thrive if people see that they are
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getting something out of it. She suggested that we need a more modern, updated
story about democracy. She recommended taking a more holistic view, advocating
the UN’s Agenda 2030 as a framework combining all the elements that we need
to address to ensure peace, security and prosperity. Mr. Polman described Agenda
2030 as probably the best moral framework that we have, and also the best business
plan. We are in a bizarre situation right now, he said, because this world has more
money than it knows what to do with. He recommended putting this surplus to good
use to make financial markets subservient to the economy rather than the other way
around, and to redefining success in terms of maximizing the return on social and
environmental capital. In a sobering call to arms, he stated that the cost to society
of not reaching each individual SDG, is greater than the cost of implementing all 17
of them.
Ms. Diamantopoulou distinguished between global and national governance,
declaring that the Bretton Woods institutions now represent a very weak attempt at
global governance, while the global problems we need to confront are getting bigger.
She identified a lack of political will in pushing for global governance, warning that
it would be a great pity to garner the momentum to establish the effective global
institutions we need, only once it becomes too late, and a major global catastrophe
has occurred. On national governance, she emphasized the need for political parties
to present new ideas about new problems, including skills shortages, lifelong
learning, new organizations of workers and taxation policies. She underlined the
importance of meaningful discussion around these areas, warning that we may find
ourselves becoming nostalgic for how good things where in the past. Emphasizing the
importance of listening to people like Greta Thunberg, Ms. Wallström underscored
the importance of addressing income inequality, strengthening social security nets,
and improving job security. We need to take care of our democratic systems, she
urged, otherwise we will enter a violent downward spiral, which is very dangerous for
nations, and for the world.
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CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT
H.E. Mr. Borut Pahor, President, Republic of Slovenia
In conversation with Steven Erlanger, Chief Diplomatic Correspondent, Europe,
The New York Times
Starting the conversation on the problems facing the European Union, President
Pahor expressed his view that both pragmatism and vision are required to address
the key issues. Describing the UK’s departure from the EU as a sovereign decision
which the rest of Europe has to accept, he voiced his concerns about the grave split
in British society between those in favor of Brexit and those against, highlighting
that continued uncertainty may have a negative impact on the consensus of the
27 if further compromises are made, potentially resulting in a crisis for the EU. He
explained that the threat to the EU posed by the Brexit vote three years ago has
effectively disappeared, as member states previously considering such a move have
witnessed the ensuing split – in society and in Parliament – develop into a crisis for
Britain and its people.
Comparing the Brexit vote with the Slovenian plebiscite on independence from
Yugoslavia in 1990, President Pahor highlighted the key difference in terms of the
division in British society and the unity of Slovenian society, despite a number of
national and international challenges facing his country at that time. As Slovenia
prepares to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the historic vote next year, he
underscored his gratitude to destiny that his country succeeded in being united
at the most important moment in its history. In terms of Slovenia’s place on the
international stage today, he emphasized his country’s unique position of having
good relations with everybody.
Describing the EU as the most beautiful thing that happened to nations in Europe,
President Pahor reinforced his commitment to deepening European integration and
the inclusion of the Western Balkans, provided they fulfill the criteria. He expressed
his concern that the enlargement fatigue being demonstrated by Brussels has the
potential to lead these countries down a different path, potentially threatening peace
and security within the region. He stated that, while the countries in this part of
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Europe may not be perfect, the political cost of delaying the accession decision will
be significantly higher if these countries are neglected. In this respect, he is hopeful
that the EU will place enlargement firmly at the top of the agenda, rather than being
forced to take action in the future when it is too late.
President Pahor also highlighted the importance of concluding discussions on
Romania and Bulgaria entering Schengen, as part of the broader need to find a
common approach to the issue of illegal migration, which he articulated as not only
a political issue, but a moral one.
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PANEL DISCUSSION: BACK TO BASICS
Dr. Huiyao (Henry) Wang, Founder and President, Center for China and Globalization
Jayathma Wickramanayake, United Nations Secretary General’s Envoy on Youth,
United Nations
Dr. Karolina Wigura, Sociologist, Kultura Liberalna Foundation, Poland
Moderated by Steven Erlanger, Chief Diplomatic Correspondent, Europe, The New
York Times
Dr. Wigura opened the session by highlighting our common understanding that there
are certain politics that can damage liberal democracy as we know it, stating that
some might try to convince us that populists are refreshing liberal democracy or
reinvigorating it. She proposes emotions as a way to create political change, drawing
the conclusion that good politics is about speaking to emotions, and choosing the
right one, at the right time, in the right amount. She suggested that loss was the
emotion that secured the victory of populists. Even when we think of development
in positive terms of education, material growth, and democratic transformation, she
ventured, it can also represent loss for families and human connections. In 2015 in
Poland and in 2016 in the US and Britain, populists channeled the feeling of loss
into civil war, hatred and disgust. But there are also good emotions like empathy and
hope, she added.
Mr. Wang suggested that the capitalist model has paved the way for a lot of good
things to happen, but everything has to be measured by the bottom line; the facts.
Drawing on the example of China, he stated that 800 million have been lifted out of
poverty, and the Chinese economy contributes more than 30% to gross GDP, which
makes it a big engine to propel global development. He suggests, however, that in
light of the rapid rate of technological development globally, now is the time for a
revamp of democracy.
Ms. Wickramanayake commented that the United Nations is very bureaucratic and
looks less like her, and more like old, Western, retired diplomats. She mentioned
that she struggles to make the work of the UN relevant to the young people of today,
which is crucial because half of the world’s population is under 30. Likewise, liberal
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democratic institutions have pushed young people away. She suggested that a lack of
trust in political institutions and increased inequalities within communities has been
mobilized by populist movements to recruit young people. A lack of transparency
and responsiveness has also pushed young people away from engaging in formal
politics, creating a breeding ground for populist and extremist movements to tap into
hopelessness and frustration, which is further reinforced by the lack of representation
of young people in politics. She stated that there are many barriers when young
people do try to engage with politics, with many feeling used because politicians
only come to them at election time when there is a vote. She highlighted the recent
transition in Sudan which was primarily lead by young people, emphasizing the clear
distinction between young people in established democracies and those trying to
establish democratic institutions, predominantly in the Global South.
Ms. Wigura declared that social media is turning politics into a spectacle, which
is now prevailing over ideology, common good and reforms. She suggested that
social media has also transformed how we define ourselves into a very individualized
experience, which means that the emotionality of political subjects is very different
from 20 or 30 or 40 years ago. Populists, she said, addressed this new emotionality
and they were quick to do it. Mr. Wang continued this theme, stating that democracy
is under threat worldwide because of fake news distributed by social media. At the
same time, he compared the way people in China use their phones – to buy things,
to travel, to do anything – to a new form of democracy. Combined with this, 150
million tourists travel to China every year, WeChat is widely used, and there is always
a way to know what is going on. He urged all of us to try to view China differently.
Ms. Wickramanayake emphasized that young people do have faith in democracy,
but what they need to see are changes in the system to make it more inclusive,
transparent, and accountable.
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DEBATE: LIBERAL VS. ILLIBERAL
Ivan Krastev, Political Scientist and Chairman, Center for Liberal Strategies, Sofia
vs.
Mária Schmidt, Historian
Moderated by Steven Erlanger, Chief Diplomatic Correspondent, Europe, The New
York Times
Ms. Schmidt declared her conviction that Hungary is a democracy, stating that
illiberalism is an attempt to ensure emancipation and safeguard national sovereignty.
In 2014, she said, when Viktor Orbán announced that he was going to build an
illiberal democracy, he did this to preserve the country’s success in the 21st century.
Mr. Krastev commented that, for him, democracy is the game in which governments
can lose elections. He stated that President Trump believes that his real enemy is
the Democrats, and from this point of view, everybody – the Chinese, Russians,
Ukrainians - could be potential allies. This is a major change, he said. Democracy
cannot function, he warned, when leaders believe that their major enemy is their
political opponent at home. Ms. Schmidt agreed, commenting that in the case of
Hungary, the weak opposition compelled people to place more importance on foreign
policy than domestic issues. In response, Mr. Krastev highlighted that an external
enemy like Brussels was crucial for mobilizing society.
As the fastest-shrinking region in demographic terms, Mr. Krastev explained the roots
of demographic anxiety in Central and Eastern Europe. He stated that, demographically,
his own country, Bulgaria, is the fastest-shrinking country in human history in the
absence of war and famine, dropping from nine million people in 1989, to seven
million now. So, the paradox for the region is that when we talk about migrants, they
are not there. He stated that the number of Bulgarian people who claim to have seen
a UFO is greater than those who believe they have personally met a refugee. But out-
migration, he said, is the thing that we do not know how to talk about. When people
talk about migration, he said, it is not the fear of people who may never come, it is
the fear of your own people leaving. If you have a small nation, people believe that
they are going to disappear, so substitution is a real fear.
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Ms. Schmidt added that with 150 years under Muslim occupation, her country does
not want history to repeat. In what she considers a violation of national sovereignty,
400,000 illegal migrants went through Hungary because of a decision by the
German chancellor. Mr. Krastev confirmed that after the 1989 revolution, we wanted
to be like the West, and freedom of movement is the best thing about the EU, and
also the thing we fear the most. He agreed that Germany makes up the rules, but
when Hungary and Poland and all of our countries refused to accept refugees, this
was perceived as a lack of compassion. Ms. Schmidt explained that Hungary did
everything the EU asked, yet received no support when facing the abyss in the
aftermath of the financial crisis. As a result, she explained, Hungary felt disinclined
to submit to further EU demands on any matter, including receiving refugees.
Mr. Krastev highlighted that there were two Europes in the early 1900s – a culturally
and ethnically homogenous Western Europe, and a culturally and ethnically diverse
Central and Eastern Europe. He explained that after two World Wars with a forceful
exchange of people, the reverse is now true. As a matter of national sovereignty,
Ms. Schmidt stated that the Hungarian people are fed up of being told how to live,
especially after the Communist experiment was forced upon them after World War II.
We want to make our own decisions, she said.
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THE ARISTOTLE ADDRESS
WELCOME BY Stephen Dunbar-Johnson, President, International, The New York
Times Company
H.E. the President of the Hellenic Republic, Mr. Prokopios Pavlopoulos
H.E. the President of Ireland, Mr. Michael D. Higgins
EPILOGUE: Prayer by Bernard-Henri Lévy, Philosopher, Filmmaker and Activist
Following introductions by Mr. Dunbar-Johnson and President Pavlopoulos, President
Higgins reflected on the significance of the agora in the history of ancient Athens
and for democracy itself. As a gathering place for discourse, he emphasized the debt
we all owe to the founding exchange of ideas, and the pursuit of truth and beauty
in its wholeness of mind and body, that is the Greek legacy. He praised Greece as
a country and a people that has given, and continues to give, so much to Europe
and the world, by way of its contribution to civilization in culture, aesthetics and
philosophy, including the founding discourses on democracy itself.
President Higgins highlighted the values and connections shared by Ireland and
Greece, which he hopes will inspire us as we work together in the crafting of a
union of European humanity that will have the capacity to acknowledge, respect
and celebrate Europe in all its diversity – a European Union which will be seen,
not only as a regional achievement, but as a global, intergenerational exemplar
because of its far-seeing humanity. We have a responsibility to assert, deepen and
- where necessary - reassert those founding values of democracy, cohesion, shared
prospects, human rights and the rule of law in an increasingly interdependent world
in which those values are challenged, he urged.
Speaking about the financial crisis and its aftermath, President Higgins declared that
today, we find ourselves confronted by the growing awareness that we have been
failing to live up to the needs, ideas and expectations of citizens of the European
Union. He expressed his view that, as a result of the blunt and insensitive handling
of the crisis, social cohesion has been significantly damaged, fueling the rise of
euroskepticism, exclusionary forms of neo-nationalism, and austerity-sourced
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populism and nativism; reactions that are built on negative invocations of fear and
ignorance, including that which scapegoats the stranger; the ‘other.’ He stated that
these manifestations are not the root causes of the discontent on the European
Street, but the symptoms.
President Higgins affirmed that we will be judged by future generations on whether we
averted our gaze from the vulnerabilities of our planet, our continent, and humanity
itself, or had the empathy necessary to celebrate our interdependency. He declared
that a new paradigm of responsible economics, underpinned by eco-social policy, is
urgently required to steer us back toward the long road of societal and ecological
reparation, to address and reduce inequality while simultaneously operating within an
ecological awareness of the planet’s natural systems and their constraints. He believes
that the transformation that is required must seek to extend and deepen democracy,
and initiate changes in our political structures, our institutions, our language of
discourse, our way of dealing with each other, and in our consciousness, adding that
such a program requires not just intellectual work, but its delivery with moral courage.
The European Union was born with an invocation for solidarity, President Higgins
reminded us. If it is radical reform that is necessary, let us be courageous, he urged,
because democracy demands it, and the world requires it. We should all help, he
stated, and in doing so we will be invoking and benefiting from the power of reason
and the grace of thought that is the Greek gift to humanity; a gift that endures.
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Q&A TALK WITH THE TIMES
Roger Cohen, Serge Schmemann, Liz Alderman, Alicia Wittmeyer, Katrin Bennhold,
and Stephen Dunbar-Johnson
Moderated by Alexis Papahelas, Executive Editor, Kathimerini
Opening this year’s signature panel, Mr. Cohen admitted that, overall, The New York
Times missed the possibility that Donald Trump would defeat Hillary Clinton in the
2016 election, stating that he is sure a lesson has been learned. A free and strong
press is fundamental to the healthy functioning of democracy, he said, so when the
president of the United States calls journalists ‘scum’ amid unrelenting fake news
attacks, the clear intention is to undermine freedom of the press. It is incumbent
upon The New York Times to state very clearly that we oppose this and regard it as
dangerous, he added.
Reinforcing this point, Mr. Schmemann stated that President Trump has declared us
the enemy, and the biggest challenge for The Times and the editorial position is to
maintain the same kind of distance, integrity and honesty it always has. President
Trump has reduced the level of discourse to such a low level, he said, that no liberal,
well-meaning person could accept that point of view, adding that opposing it takes
on a new, and almost universal quality among people of good conscience. It has
changed the level of discourse, and the level of what we have to respond to, he
stated. Continuing on the notion that, by default, we are on a side, Ms. Wittmeyer
warned of the spiral of unhealthy dynamics this can create. What we have to do is
not play that game, Ms. Bennhold emphasized, highlighting the positive reactions
that can emerge from reporting fairly, and surfacing the voices of people who are
potentially supportive of populists.
Mr. Dunbar-Johnson stated that the separation between reporting and Opinion was
clearer in the analogue print world, warning that in this digital world, Opinion can
often get conflated with news. Ms. Wittmeyer clarified that it is not the role of the
Opinion section to represent a particular point of view, but to host a lively discussion
by bringing the most interesting and smart representatives of various points of view.
Mr. Schmemann described Opinion as a kind of compass against which people on the
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center-left can gauge their own personal beliefs, highlighting the further distinction
with Op-Ed articles – opposite the editorials – which very often disagree with the
editorial position. Declaring that good journalism is good business, Mr. Dunbar-
Johnson explained that social media has intensified the blurring of lines between
news and views. Ms. Bennhold warned that, while many people focus on how social
media helps populists and nationalists amplify and spread their views, people in non-
democracies and dictatorships actively rely on these platforms to organize.
Ms. Alderman underscored inequality as a key driver of populism globally. She
stated that the expansion of the gig economy and the increase in precarious jobs is
creating an unstable situation. Highlighting the gilets jaunes movement in France,
she expressed her view that there is a sense among large parts of populations that
globalization is not bearing fruit. Ms. Bennhold stated that when the Berlin Wall came
down, we thought that liberal democracy was the only game in town; that it was the
end of history. It turned out to be a brief vacation from history, she said, highlighting
that the story 30 years later is about an alternative system competing with the liberal
democracy value system that we have stood for, but that we have been complacent
about. She stated that the alternative system in China is successful in that,
economically, it seems to be delivering for people, for now. Ms. Alderman warned
that China has long-term leadership which looks further out, and no longer wants to
be the factory floor to the world. At some point, there will be a new superpower, and
that is likely to be China, she added. Mr. Cohen stated that the autocratic systems in
Moscow, Beijing and elsewhere are more confident when they feel embraced, rather
than confronted, by the president of the United States, emphasizing the importance
of being open-eyed about this, but also resolute and hopeful.
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PANEL DISCUSSION: THE ECHO CHAMBER AND THE AGORA
Laura Chinchilla, Former President, Republic of Costa Rica, and Chair of the Kofi
Annan Commission on Elections and Democracy in the Digital Age
Crystal Patterson, Global Civic Partnerships Manager, Facebook
Alvin Carpio, Chief Executive, The Fourth Group
Moderated by Alicia Wittmeyer, Editor, Opinion Section, The New York Times
Ms. Chinchilla opened the session stating that there are no easy conclusions when
it comes to the benefits or the perils of social media on democracy. It is true that
social media did not create the problems, but it can amplify them, she warned. Part
of the complexity is that social media does not behave the same way in different
countries and regions, so understanding that some countries are more vulnerable is
crucial. She explained that they tried to analyze the 2018 Brazilian elections with the
same parameters used in the 2016 US presidential elections, but they got it wrong,
as did the tech platforms. They had been analyzing the paid platforms - Facebook,
Twitter, Google, YouTube - when they realized that the preferred platform in Brazil is
WhatsApp, which was also used by the political parties to spread huge amounts of
misinformation. When we realized, it was too late, she lamented.
Ms. Patterson explained that WhatsApp is designed for one-to-one communication,
or one-to-few, whereas Facebook or Instagram are intended to be public broadcast
channels. Steps have been taken to limit the number of people you can send one
message to, and also the number of times a message can be forwarded, to help stop
the virality of content, but it is a concept balancing act, she explained. Facebook is
under great pressure not to interfere in personal communications, because people
rely on WhatsApp as a cheap and easy way to stay in touch with friends and family,
particularly in places where it would be prohibitively expensive otherwise. She said
Facebook works with governments, international organizations, and civil society to
understand cultural dynamics and the impacts of how people are using their tool.
Although they are getting better at this, she stated that there are places where they
have been too late in terms of understanding the impact their tools were having on
existing difficulties. They are trying to work more collaboratively in thinking about
these challenges, but when people are using the platform maliciously, she warned,
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it can be hard to predict how that is going to play out. Emphasizing that Facebook is
all about innovation and ideas, she said the company is keen to work with anyone
who has good input as they would love to help solve this. She stated that technology
has changed our behaviour, viewing this change as an internet thing, rather than a
Facebook thing.
Thinking about the fourth industrial revolution and technology, Mr. Carpio shared his
view that hearing voices we never heard before is a beautiful thing, and we should
celebrate the fact that social media has facilitated this. He emphasized the risk in
dismissing opposing views. This, he warned, is when democracy is going to fail. He
said that for many people, Brexit, Trump, or Duterte was the first time they won
because for generations they had lost, and this shows us that democracy is more
alive than ever. He cautioned against focusing on the glitz and glamour of tech
and digital and algorithms and all these buzzwords, as Facebook and Google are
ultimately companies with a profit motive. Admiring the beauty and possibility of what
they have created, while also building an inclusive capitalism for the fourth industrial
revolution, means we also have to ensure that they are democratically accountable.
Ms. Chinchilla stated that values and principles are needed to orient the rest of
the world about the way to approach the regulation of social media, and this has
to be achieved through international cooperation. Ms. Patterson described the
community standards Facebook has published so that people know the ‘rules of
the road’, emphasizing that they do not want it to be an ‘anything goes’ place where
people feel unsafe. Ultimately, however, she does not consider policing speech as
Facebook’s role, particularly if it is about different viewpoints or opinions that may not
be as popular, as those are allowed to be said.
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PANEL RESPONSE AND DEMOCRACY IN THE DIGITAL AGE
Margrethe Vestager, European Commissioner for Competition, European Commission
Ms. Vestager began by stating that she does not share the view that democracy, as
such, is threatened. For her, conflict is not a threat to democracy; in fact, democracy
is conflict. Reiterating the point made by Mr. Carpio in the previous panel discussion,
she stated that democratic institutions have to be, to some degree, echo chambers,
and we have the chance now to reach out for a democracy where everyone truly has
a voice. She told the audience that in her language, Danish, the word for vote and
voice are the same, and that is on purpose because when you have a vote, you have
a voice; you participate. And without that voice, obviously there is no democratic
state, she added.
Ms. Vestager explained that, now we have new opportunities for making our voices
heard. In the days before social media, one of the most important jobs as citizens
was to go and vote. But most people would also have a democratic life between
elections, she noted, describing sitting over a coffee or over a beer and discussing
how government did not work. We would engage, she said, and these discussions very
often stayed private. Now, digitization and social media have truly changed this. Using
the example of the debates on Twitter and Facebook, she said these are truly different
because they are networked. They are, in their way, part of the political debate and,
as a matter of principle, anyone can take part. In this respect, she believes that our
democracy is strengthened and enriched. She feels it is better when more people
can participate, because otherwise, she asked, what kind of democracy do we have?
Ms. Vestager also mentioned the participation opportunities for groups who were
once marginalized, and those who felt isolated, forgotten, or not respected.
Highlighting the journalism of Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey for The New York
Times who provided the spark that launched #MeToo, she emphasized that it was
social media that transformed these stories into a movement; social media made it a
powerful agent for change. On the flipside, she stated that while social media allows
for new oxygen in our bloodstream, it also allows poison that has entered to spread
throughout the whole system. She reinforced this as a key challenge, because with
open debates, any voice, in principle, can be heard.
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Ms. Vestager affirmed her belief that our societies need to change. They need to
be gender balanced, more equal and more open, she declared. As global citizens,
she urged, we have a lot of things to do in terms of fighting climate change and
establishing some level of control over technology so that it serves us. She stated
that democracy is the most important tool in confronting these challenges. She does
not perceive social media or technology as the enemy of democracy. The focus, she
said, must be directed at how we can make the best use of technology to enhance
democracy to be able to deal with burgeoning challenges.
It is not a new thing that women are half the population, she said. Nor is it a new
thing that our planet is threatened and the weather will get wilder and wilder, and
that technology changes our societies, she declared. She affirmed her belief that the
good thing is we are here – and everywhere else – to discuss, at long last, how to
deal with the things in our societies that we should have dealt with a long time ago.
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TALK ON LIVABLE CITIES AND INCLUSION
Sangeeth Ram, Senior Partner, McKinsey & Company
Mr. Ram explained that in 1950, 750 million people called cities their home globally.
By 2018, this had become 4.2 billion, and by 2050, an additional 2.5 billion people
will be added to the existing urban population. He described the 21st century as the
‘century of cities,’ stating that how we urbanize in a thoughtful way will be the defining
part of our journey. He described the three challenges we need to solve along the
way. On climate, he stated that with just 2% of the land mass, cities contribute
70% of our energy and emissions. With respect to inclusion, cities are incredible
productivity engines, but they also have a tendency to stratify, highlighting economic
enclaves, land use enclaves and access to nature. Outling the third major challenge
in terms of health, he advised that many argue that global noncommunicable disease
– everything from diabetes to hypertension – is actually an urban design crisis. He
described this as the essence of livability, warning that the clock is ticking.
Mr. Ram invited the audience to explore the future through two lenses. The first:
What happens, when today does not look like tomorrow? Throughout history, he
stated, the way we have built societies and the way we have urbanized has all been
predicated on a simple assumption: that today does look like tomorrow. He said that,
during the entire pleistocene period, the climate had not stabilized and humans were
nomads, until something changed 10,000 years ago. The climate stabilized, and
that single act, he explained, was the genesis of every human decision – to create
societies, to build cities, to invest in stock – based on the predictability of the future.
However, he warned, we have left the safe operating zone after 300 million years or
so. CO2 levels have gone above 450 parts per million, and life as we know it is no
longer the same as of May this year. And now, just about everything is at risk.
Preparing for a near-term change is unavoidable, he warned, as our historic emissions
have already locked in the temperature rises for the next 10 years. He said the thing
that is most in our control over the next 10 years is adaptation, outlining five things
we can we do: disaster monitoring, the relocation of people, insurance, resilience
measures and physical hardening. But the key consideration, he affirmed, is doing
this in a just and equitable way. Mitigation is not a whole lot different, he said. The
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carbon math is simple. He explained that we have a budget of about 500 to 600
gigatons, and our consumption every year is 40 gigatons and rising, so that does not
leave much time. How we think about cities, and their urban fabric and footprint,
needs to adapt, he emphasized.
Following on from this, Mr. Ram invited us to consider the second question or lens:
What if today could look like yesterday? He explained that, for 10,000 years, our
cities forced a simple order on us, known as complex density. He described it as
a way of life predicated upon the assumption that people live an active lifestyle
through optimal consumption of resources, and where personal mobility and social
interactions underpinned our way of life. Something changed at one single inflection
point with the increased use of automobiles, he stated, and as a result, the unit
of planning of our cities changed gear, and the development footprint of our cities
changed dramatically. He explained that we either went to super blocks with a lot of
density but very little complexity; or we went to slums which had a lot of complexity
and undesirable density; or we went to sprawl, where there is no density and no
complexity.
Mr. Ram framed the current challenge in terms of establishing how the next three
billion will be urbanized, and what playbook we are going to adapt in integrating the
next generation of people who will come on board in our cities. There is a lot to learn
from in terms of what has worked, and what has not worked, he said.
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THE COLLAPSE OF THE TRADITIONAL PARTY
George A. Papandreou, Former Prime Minister, Hellenic Republic
Prof. Angie Hobbs, Professor of the Public Understanding of Philosophy, University
of Sheffield
Jay Weatherill, Former Premier, South Australia, and Industry Professor, University
of South Australia
Moderated by Serge Schmemann, Program Director, Athens Democracy Forum and
Member of the Editorial Board, The New York Times
Sharing his direct, personal experience of the financial crisis, Mr. Papandreou stated
that in a globalized society, national politics alone does not always have the capacity
to make decisions for a nation. He highlighted that the concentration of wealth and
power in certain corporations – whether it is digital, finance, petroleum, pharma,
agrobusiness, or whatever – has further undermined democracy. He explained that
when this wealth buys up media and corporations and lobbies politicians, democracy
gets corrupted. You do not need a party anymore, he said. You need good finance
and good media to be elected, with the result that parties have been undermined. He
made a further point in terms of the replacement of the party as a form of collective
social organization, with the individual expression of interests through social media,
which he described as very splintered and cocooned and, arguably, manipulated
by stronger forces. He warned that this does not assist in creating consensus in a
collective, especially if we want to protect not just our parties, but democracy itself.
We need to create parties which are much more open and participatory, away from
party bureaucracy, he explained, giving citizens a democratic platform to empower
them and make them feel that they have a say. False empowerment through social
media may be part of the problem, he ventured.
Professor Hobbs insisted that party politics in a representative liberal democracy
can work pretty well with some caveats, providing it can do certain useful functions,
namely, keep the executive in some kind of check, provide a means to a block
compromise position allowing legislation to move through parliaments, and offer
at least a measure of accountability. She added that it also provides a vehicle for
citizens to get involved in an ongoing democratic conversation which goes over and
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above electing their representatives. She then highlighted a number of instances
where party politics does not work so well, in terms of elected representatives
putting their own personal ambitions ahead of their party resulting in infighting, and
parties putting their own party livelihoods against the national interest, or even global
interests. She said that problems also arise when parties fail to grasp, and react
quickly to, huge changes. Taking the example of her own country, the UK, all of these
problems are currently playing out with the two largest political parties. As a result,
traditional party politics is not working well. But she does see hope – even in the
UK – in terms of people getting energized, not just to go off into various one-party or
cluster-group issues such as Extinction Rebellion, but also about the resurgence of
parties, particularly in the center.
Mr. Weatherill confirmed his belief that there is widespread disillusionment with
politics and politicians, in line with the powerful causes mentioned by Mr. Papandreou.
His view about this decline in mainstream politics is simple: If you cannot deliver for
people, they will stop supporting you. In order to respond to that, he suggests that
we need to deconstruct the way in which governments make decisions. When we get
stuck on those big public policy decisions, he acknowledged, the shouty, polarized
crises we have in parliaments are unhelpful. Regarding the more deliberative
forms of democracy his government explored in South Australia, he stated that the
common sense of judgement of ordinary everyday citizens is the greatest resource
we have, but we need to create adequate space to allow deliberative dialogue
instead of shouting. He expressed his view that Trump and Brexit are a product of
the massive consensus that existed among most of the mainstream parties about
how wonderful globalization was. He stated that the victims of globalization had to
look for a voice somewhere, and in both of these cases somebody stood up and said,
‘I'm on your team,’ so the election and referendum outcomes were hardly a surprise.
Mr. Papandreou reiterated this, stating that Trump and Brexit were a reaction by the
marginalized.
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CLOSING DEBATE: GLOBAL VS. NATIONAL
Bernard-Henri Lévy, Philosopher, Filmmaker and Activist
vs.
Stephen Bannon, Former White House Chief Strategist, United States
Moderated by Roger Cohen, Athens Democracy Forum Host and Op-Ed Columnist,
The New York Times
Mr. Bannon opened by stating that globalism is the last of the great failed ideologies
of the 20th century. He proposed that a match was lit in the Oval Office on September
18, 2008 - three days after Lehman Brothers went bankrupt - when President Bush
was asked for a $1 trillion cash injection to save the global financial system to avoid
global anarchy and chaos. He claimed that the global central banks bailed out the
oligarchs – created by globalism and what he calls ‘the party at Davos’ – and was
paid for by working-class taxpayers around the world. This, he claims, resulted in
the match that was lit exploding in 2016 with Brexit and the election of Donald
Trump. Mr. Lévy responded, stating that, by renouncing globalism, America will lose
credibility. Mr. Bannon reinforced that America is a revolutionary power and an ally,
not an empire. It is an ally of NATO and individual countries within NATO, he said,
adding that ‘America First’ does not mean America isolationist.
Mr. Bannon suggested that the entire globalist system is built around slave labor
in China, highlighting the importance of President Trump’s efforts to confront the
Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and decouple this economic model from the
‘party at Davos.’ Mr. Lévy stated his view that the situation in China represents an
economic, as well as an ideological confrontation, on which Mr. Bannon agreed.
Mr. Lévy outlined his conviction that diplomatic relations involve alliances and
friendships, which mean something. He asked Mr. Bannon where the former, friendly
America was for the victims of the world, including the great diplomats who led a
wise war against Communism, expressing his concerns over the Turkish invasion of
Syria against the very forces which helped to defeat ISIS.
Mr. Bannon confirmed that America is not abandoning the rest of the world, insisting
that troops are on ships in the South China Sea, and patrolling the Hindu Kush and
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the 38th parallel. They are still there, he said, but only in an alliance of the West, and
with our other partners and allies. Mr. Lévy emphasized that the Japanese today are
shivering with fear after the diplomatic display by President Trump and Kim Jong-un.
Mr. Bannon claimed that no president of the United States has ever engaged in the
Pacific Northwest and elsewhere like President Trump. Trump did not create these
problems, he said. The great geniuses of globalization created them. He added that
because of Trump, the US government is going from being a collaborator to the rise
of the CCP and its totalitarian, mercantilist system, to engaging it, and starting to
deconstruct it. Trump’s deal deconstructs the entire Chinese economy and merges it
into a world economy, and this is what he is fighting for, he emphasized.
Describing the Westphalian system and the primacy of the nation state, Mr. Bannon
claimed that nationalist populism was the way forward. Mr. Lévy accused the current
US administration of doing a dirty job in Europe by helping the movements which
are weakening Europe, as well as its values and interests. Mr. Bannon confirmed
America’s commitment to a Europe of individual nations – governed by their own
people in democracy – but not some centralized bureaucracy in Brussels that tells
people what to do. Mr. Lévy explained that a little village cannot resist the forces of
a Turkey going back to the Ottoman dream of empire, a Putin who has a dream and
a will of empire, a huge China, and an Iran going back to a Persian imperial dream.
We know from history that there is a tipping point when a great civilization fails, he
lamented.
Mr. Bannon expressed his view that current concerns about democracy only emerged
when the liberals started losing elections. He declared that there was no ‘so-called
‘crisis of democracy’ during the Obama years, until Brexit, Trump, Salvini, Le Pen and
Farage happened. All of a sudden there is a global problem with democracy because
you are losing, he said.
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SUMMARY AND CLOSING REMARKS
Roger Cohen, Athens Democracy Forum Host and Op-Ed Columnist, The New York
Times
Mr. Cohen brought the proceedings of the 2019 Athens Democracy Forum to
a close, summarizing the crucial, compelling and memorable discussions that
had taken place over the course of the three-day event. We must safeguard free
speech with tenacity, he urged, because when it dies – as when truth dies – the
worst becomes possible, and probably inevitable. Recalling the powerful words of
Magdalena Adamowicz, he reminded us that we must do better in the regulation of
hate speech, because freedom of expression also protects the ideas we hate. This
is the price of freedom, he said, which must be relearned every day. I will hear Ms.
Adamowicz’s appeal – education, education, education – echoing in my mind for a
long time, he added.
Stating that the digitalized democracy of the 21st century cannot be the same
democracy of the 20th century, Mr. Cohen affirmed the shared understanding that
the ground has shifted beneath our feet. We have a solemn obligation to defend
the values that provided the framework of the 20th century’s international order, he
continued, including freedom, human rights, justice, democracy, self-determination,
openness, the rule of law, peace and security. He does not believe this undertaking
can be achieved by nationalism and walls, myth-making and drum rolls, incitement
and xenophobia, or manipulation and mob mobilization. Been there, done that, and
suffered, he said, emphasizing that the end point of nationalism is war.
Mr. Cohen outlined inequality, impunity, invisibility, immigration, inversion and the
internet – or the six ‘i’s, as he calls them – as the areas we need to focus on to
protect democracy. Our struggles are not as new or as different as we imagine, he
insisted, suggesting that perhaps what is new, above all, is the means. If only we
could use them right, he pleaded, to build a connected world of dignity and decency.
Recalling what he referred to as ‘the American century,’ that movie has ended, he
declared. History is not an argument leading to a logical conclusion, any more than
human nature is composed of black and white, he observed. History is flux, he
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said, and in the mist, the spectres of nationalism, nativism, and xenophopia have
stirred, and are now visible to everyone. It is incumbent upon all of us, he urged, to
remember that the quest for homogeneous societies led to the greatest horrors of
the 20th century. Civilization is fragile, and democracy is fragile, he declared. Today,
it is impossible – and dangerous –to ignore the spread of the hateful, he said.
In summary, he said, each of us has a story. Describing the threads of his own story
– a Jew of South African descent raised in Britain and shaped by France, now an
American hosting the Athens Democracy Forum in the birthplace of democracy – he
emphasized that as a result of his background, he is a ‘bridge’ and not a ‘wall’ person.
In keeping with this theme, Mr. Cohen ended with an extract from “Le Pont Mirabeau”
by Guillaume Apollinaire:
Under the Mirabeau bridge flows the Seine
And our loves
Does the river have to remind me
Joy always came after pain.
How slow life is
And how violent hope is.
Sous le pont Mirabeau coule la Seine
Et nos amours
Faut-il qu’il m’en souvienne
La joie venait toujours après la peine.
Comme la vie est lente
Et comme l’espérance est violente.
Some things just sound better in French, he said. And some things, for the salvation
of us all, must never be forgotten.