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Monday, 30th May 2011
@ColinTGraham Hello eMon May 30 19:31:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahaMon May 30 19:31:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham As alwsometimes move fast! Don't forgeMon May 30 19:32:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham If your tappear in the #mathchat stream.Mon May 30 19:33:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Today'scurriculum in mathematics?" #maMon May 30 19:33:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @KTVee Hi. Th join.Mon May 30 19:34:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @stefrMon May 30 19:34:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham We werbe driving the curriculum... #mathMon May 30 19:35:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahameant. #mathchat Mon May 30 19:36:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham One vieachieved in primary environmentsMon May 30 19:36:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@magicalmaths Hello tomaths teachers.Mon May 30 19:37:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahaHS curriculum that we on't spendMon May 30 19:37:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
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Hello Colin. Glad to be here. #mathch75283266789310464 - #3
ys, if it's your first time, try not to keep uthe hashtag --> #mathchat
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topic is "Is it possible to have a complethchat 75283794533425152 - #6
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s @tj007 Hi, Shawn and Tim, glad you c75283932039479296 - #8
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I think we were a little undecided on w
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everyone in #mathchat , looking to netw
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Perhaps this is because we try to fit sotime exploring math. #mathchat 75284662976659457 - #14
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@ColinTGraham @stefrabout a prescribed content or soMon May 30 19:37:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @magiMon May 30 19:38:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@KTVee Does student drworld situations? #mathchat Mon May 30 19:38:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @KTVee I thinkhow, within the curriculum boundsMon May 30 19:38:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @KTVreally pin anything down last time.Mon May 30 19:38:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reallara @ColinTGrahaAlthough lots of use of pupil choicMon May 30 19:39:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@cherrylkd @ColinTGrathey need to learn. I'm confused bMon May 30 19:39:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @cherrylkd I wMon May 30 19:40:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @cherrpuzzles to work on and you just 'gMon May 30 19:40:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc I'm not sure stdirection but students can drive thMon May 30 19:40:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@MrHonner I think indep"student-driven". #mathchat Mon May 30 19:40:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras RT @MrHonnemath to be "student-driven". #matMon May 30 19:40:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
s Agreed, and we also seemed unsureething completely 'free-form' #mathchat
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iven mean kids move at their own pace
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we meant students get to decide what t. #mathchat 75285059665530880 - #18
e That was basically the nub of the disc.. #mathchat 75285085410164737 - #19
m Always been a 'core of skills & knowlee in activities #mathchat 75285171703779330 - #20
am #mathchat how can students drive ity this.75285274762035200 - #21
s stuck on that last Friday too. #mathch75285419096424448 - #22
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@peterflom @ktvee Studmountain. Joy of participatory learMon May 30 19:41:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@MrHonner But researchclass of 30+, with too many topicsMon May 30 19:41:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @peterflom NicMon May 30 19:41:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @cherran interest in something, it wouldMon May 30 19:41:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@cherrylkd @ColinTGraMon May 30 19:41:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reallara @ColinTGrahacover everything that way and diffMon May 30 19:42:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @peter
another good description for the tMon May 30 19:42:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @cherrylkd Orthey want to learn. #mathchat Mon May 30 19:42:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @colintgrahguides par excellence #MathChat Mon May 30 19:43:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @MrHo100 items & you say prove/show/ Mon May 30 19:43:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@KTVee well, u cant teacworksheets #mathchat Mon May 30 19:43:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @reallara @help learners to develop skills so tMon May 30 19:43:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
ent driven means teachers act like sherpning http://ow.ly/5675e #mathchat 75285623673597952 - #27
projects are difficult to manage themselto cover already. #mathchat 75285709895901184 - #29
e analogy. #mathchat 75285724483694592 - #30
ylkd My view is that when a student/groue good to be flexible #mathchat
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am #mathchat I see. Teacher picks topi75285805391822848 - #32
m That's a good idea as far as engagingicult to plan for #mathchat 75285863449370624 - #33
lom @ktvee We decided that mathemati
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list of topics, stations, curriculum upfro
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m Cool. And the Kaplans (featured in lin
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nner @reallara One suggestion I madexplain by the end of term #mathchat
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h student-driven math when kids are tet
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@stefras @reallara Planknow what they have to do! #matMon May 30 19:44:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@KTVee @MrHonner collMon May 30 19:44:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @ColinTGrahnew learners into the culture of mMon May 30 19:44:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @delta_dc Yto explore #mathchat Mon May 30 19:44:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @cherrtopic... provided the teacher can sMon May 30 19:44:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@cherrylkd @ColinTGralesson if its worthwhile. Maths caMon May 30 19:45:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reallara @delta_dc Expentitlement of knowledge/skills toMon May 30 19:45:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @delta_dc ThisBut then there is the curriculum....Mon May 30 19:45:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@MrHonner @ColinTGrawhy the class needed to learn/proMon May 30 19:45:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @colintgrahknow what the choices are #mathMon May 30 19:45:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc Is this the stueverything! So, better show kidsMon May 30 19:45:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @KTVdirection, just use as one of manyMon May 30 19:46:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
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aborative projectd make it easier to man75286504078983168 - #42
am @peterflom @ktvee I like math ambthematics. #mathchat
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ou can't POSSIBLY cover everything! S
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ylkd There's also no reason why the studee the maths in it! #mathchat 75286588329955328 - #45
am #mathchat agree. I've been knownb hard, don't stop the learning
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loration is very important but I feel there#mathchat 75286710413570048 - #47
would be a good idea. Teach the Math#mathchat
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ham @reallara This would be great if thve these 100 things. #mathchat 75286754822852608 - #49
m There is one reason kids should not phat
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ent driven part? >> MT @peterflom: YoOW to explore #mathchat
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e That's the idea, abandon the textbookresources... #mathchat
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lem with subs. The kids
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@MrHonner @KTVee Soindividual ones! #mathchat Mon May 30 19:46:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @reallara Is itengaging activities? #Mathchat Mon May 30 19:47:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@KTVee it is better to leaate 3 ice cream scoops each on pMon May 30 19:47:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @delta_dctravel agent more than a tour guidMon May 30 19:47:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @peterteacher provides a number of topiMon May 30 19:47:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @MrHonner I tmaster, then 100 questions, projeMon May 30 19:47:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @delta_dc tthen teacher books a flight :-) #mMon May 30 19:48:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @stefras Are#Mathchat Mon May 30 19:48:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@MrHonner Ideally studeto solve, then develop the math nMon May 30 19:48:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @reallwhat forms the core, or the functiMon May 30 19:48:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras RT @peterflom:go, kids decide, then teacher booMon May 30 19:49:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@KTVee @MrHonner thaworks for particular group of kids
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
metimes collaborative projects are harde
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possible to cover the core content? Can75287112450183168 - #54
rn math in solving REAL problems, thanage 12. #mathchat 75287119454679040 - #55
ell, it's ALL student driven. But maybe te...... #mathchat 75287170188980224 - #56
lom There is mathematics in most things, but by JHS...? #mathchat
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ink the curriculum upfront lets the kids kts, etc. #mathchat
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acher/tour guide points out many greatthchat
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you saying the curriculum and the conte
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nts wouldn't pick a "topic"; they'd defineeded to solve it. #mathchat
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ra @delta_dc The key is making sure thnal numeracy if you like #mathchat
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@delta_dc teacher/tour guide points ous a flight :-) #mathchat
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Mon May 30 19:49:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@MrHonner @stefras @students? I'm not sure they're meMon May 30 19:49:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @colintgrahknow group theory and number thMon May 30 19:49:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reallara @delta_dc I'mNeed a balance #mathchat Mon May 30 19:49:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @peterflom I
idea? #Mathchat Mon May 30 19:49:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @KTVmathematics. Sometimes the 'realMon May 30 19:49:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @delta_dc N. Ipatterns and processes, Math ratMon May 30 19:50:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @delta_dcmusic. Most is exploration #MathMon May 30 19:50:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @reallara I agbefore doing math. #Mathchat Mon May 30 19:50:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@MrHonner @KTVee Init can be so hard to enforce accouMon May 30 19:50:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @MrHonner Thpay us. #mathchat Mon May 30 19:51:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@cherrylkd @ColinTGraMon May 30 19:51:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @KTVarts that a certain amount of struc
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
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olinTGraham Are the curriculum goals 'ningful to me! #mathchat
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m I was thinking of more "pure" math toeory EXIST #MathChat 75287731604963328 - #66
sure it is, but not sure how easy to do th
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on't know. Learners need models - how
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e There also has to be space for some' bit is part of mathematics itself. #mathc75287802585161728 - #69
am sying that the curriculum provides aer than math. #Mathchat
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odels are a tiny part of what learners nehat
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ree. Balance is key. But too often we pu
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. can be overwhelming--reqs a lot of montability in groups! #mathchat 75288105292283904 - #73
ey're meaningful to the government. #cu
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am #mathchat so just abandon the curri75288234665590784 - #75
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Mon May 30 19:51:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss Hi! My studeeach other on Wed. #mathchat Mon May 30 19:51:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @peterflom I ldriven. #Mathchat Mon May 30 19:52:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@bucharesttutor Goodwould have joined you all in #matMon May 30 19:52:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @MrHo
content is 'decided' too, and by wMon May 30 19:52:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @delta_dc Teahave an answer for. Students expMon May 30 19:52:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reallara @delta_dc Impand exploration, rather than findinMon May 30 19:52:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@MrHonner @ColinTGracan break them! #mathchat Mon May 30 19:52:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@downrightdave All aboand change mid lesson if needed.Mon May 30 19:53:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @ColinTGrahcan use them to extend their ownMon May 30 19:53:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom Is math an aMon May 30 19:53:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss data collectiresearch...many possibilities for pMon May 30 19:53:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Why not? So lo@ColinTGraham #mathchat so ju
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
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nts driving process now. Chose from 20
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ike an apprenticeship model myself. Thi
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ight Twitterville wherever you are :) verychat :) Have a nice evening
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nner @stefras There's the whole questio
om, and why... #mathchat 75288494515290112 - #80
hers provide models of good math, badlore. #Mathchat 75288502547390464 - #81
ortant for children to discover that its abright answers #mathchat
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ham @KTVee I totally agree. Gotta lear
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t balance, you need inquiry, practice, a#mathchat
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am @reallara Modeling the content andunderstanding. #Mathchat 75288697704153088 - #85
t or a craft? #MathChat 75288729668943872 - #86
n, game playing, art projects, learn newojects #mathchat
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g as the curriculum is covered. RT @chst abandon the curriculum at certain time
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r so topics; present to
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Mon May 30 19:54:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @ekenWhat age group are you workingMon May 30 19:54:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @reallara Thteachers :-( #Mathchat Mon May 30 19:54:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @mrhonneruntil I saw it http://ow.ly/567tx #MMon May 30 19:54:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @buchMon May 30 19:54:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @stefras Yes.Mon May 30 19:54:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @reallare/could be found and communicMon May 30 19:55:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc Both, and moMon May 30 19:55:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reallara @delta_dc YesMon May 30 19:55:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras I think it is both.RT @peterflom: Is math an art orMon May 30 19:56:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@downrightdave @stefrother language. #MathChat Mon May 30 19:56:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @downlesson is there, but lacks long-terMon May 30 19:56:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss coolest thing
the topics together. trying to decidMon May 30 19:56:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
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riss Hi Kay. It's great you have that sortith? #mathchat
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t's important for a lot of adults as well. In
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colintgraham @ktvee I wouldn't havethChat
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resttutor Hi Vijay! Bye Vijay! ;-) #mathch75289008967647232 - #92
An authentic apprentice experience. #M75289080639922176 - #93
ra @delta_dc A big part is also the ideaating ideas/results with others too #math75289231899099137 - #94
e >> @peterflom: Is math an art or a cra75289290015383552 - #95
, sadly so true #mathchat 75289294289371136 - #96
Don't most arts turn into craft with expera craft? #MathChat 75289460505448449 - #97
s Math is also a language, and needs t
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rightdave Sometimes the willingness tosupport. More of a "one-off" #mathchat
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ever--video by Geoffrey West this week
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ven curriculum? (Follow up)
of freedom/flexibility.
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@ColinTGraham Yes... ;-Mon May 30 19:57:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @delta_dc I
the beauty of the art. We work asMon May 30 19:57:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Neat! RT @deltexperience. #Mathchat Mon May 30 19:57:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc Some of thiswith the following survey: http://t.cMon May 30 19:57:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss Hi Colin. I'vetheir AP exam, I have them do soMon May 30 19:57:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @delta_dc ..Or we ignore art altogether. #MatMon May 30 19:57:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@cherrylkd @downrightpraised for doing so. If it's not righMon May 30 19:58:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@KTVee there is math insolving #mathchat Mon May 30 19:58:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @ekenwell if they had a big test comingMon May 30 19:58:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @downrightlet's hear the Gettysburg Address.Mon May 30 19:59:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @delta#Mathchat sessions too!Mon May 30 19:59:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @peterflom Sowe must cover in curriculum. #MaMon May 30 19:59:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
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a gree, actually. But the inspiration to lea
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epends on what we think it means to doo/PKaj9St #Mathchat 75289761203499008 - #104
got high school seniors, primarily. Now tething different. #mathchat
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... we teach craft, and kids are supposedChat
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ave #mathchat Agree. I changed mid oft it's got to be changed or ch fail75289936152117248 - #107
everything we do, patterns, relationships
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riss Ah... post-examination! I suspect thp! #mathchat
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ave I disagree about math being a langOr "I love you" #MathChat
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dc We've covered the idea of what mat
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@KTVee @cherrylkd @C#mathchat Mon May 30 20:00:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@MrHonner @peterflomnature. But it is certainly an art, aMon May 30 20:00:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@cherrylkd @stefras @a year it doesn't matter whenMon May 30 20:00:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathonthemind RT @craft? Or is it a #language ? #MathMon May 30 20:00:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @ColinTGrahdriven curriculum? #Mathchat Mon May 30 20:00:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @peterflom Magoes to teaching art vs craft. #MaMon May 30 20:01:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @peter'looking at things', notation, syntaMon May 30 20:01:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss tried self-dirit. worked well for some. discontinMon May 30 20:01:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom "Math isn't aLament" Best math ed book http:/ Mon May 30 20:01:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @deltaDave! But play, exploration, comMon May 30 20:02:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@MrHonner We have cobut that it something different thaMon May 30 20:03:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @ekensessions for those who want them
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olinTGraham #mathchat fabulous idea.
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Mon May 30 20:03:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @stefras I thparticipatory learning. http://ow.ly/ Mon May 30 20:03:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @ColinTGrahmy #mathchat topics in the future.Mon May 30 20:03:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ekendriss @driven as well. Many students reluMon May 30 20:03:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @stefr
longer the students have been inMon May 30 20:04:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @peterflom Whdriven learning? #MathChat Mon May 30 20:04:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak @ekendriss Self-authoritarian teaching. All-or-nothiMon May 30 20:05:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @stefras @ewhen they first take the wheel - leMon May 30 20:05:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@downrightdave @Colibook and had me sit in the back aMon May 30 20:05:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @cherropportunities for reusing skills leaMon May 30 20:06:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @delta_dc Butcreative leaders or passive followMon May 30 20:06:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@KTVee @stefras @ekestudent-driven math? where 2 beMon May 30 20:06:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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ink that Bob and Ellen Kaplan have the ri567Hw #MathChat 75291234683469825 - #127
am Thanks for the brief synopsis. Promis;-)
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direction takes a while to adapt to if kidsng... #mathchat 75291700297347073 - #132
endriss @ColinTGraham True. They dorned helplessness. #mathchat
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TGraham in 5th grade my teacher handnd teach myself, good teaching? #mathc75291876768485376 - #134
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@ekendriss agree! MTknow what 2 do when they first taMon May 30 20:06:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @oldak @ekelearners. This requires support, cMon May 30 20:06:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @stefras I a#MathChat Mon May 30 20:07:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @cherrconnections were made too. MayMon May 30 20:07:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGraha#mathchat Mon May 30 20:07:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @ekendrissapprenticeship model. #Mathchat Mon May 30 20:08:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss @ktvee justMon May 30 20:08:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp @peterflom 'and student negotiate the learninMon May 30 20:08:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @downyou could ask for help wheneverMon May 30 20:08:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @KTVee Easewith lots of guidance. #mathchat Mon May 30 20:08:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @downwas 'good learning'? #mathchat Mon May 30 20:08:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak @delta_dc @ekefor support, choice, modelling areMon May 30 20:08:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
Is it possible to have a completely student-dri
delta_dc: @stefras @ekendriss @Coline the wheel - #mathchat
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ndriss We need to help student consumoice, and modeling. #mathchat 75292134571393025 - #139
not sure exactly what people mean by
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ylkd @stefras We'd also need to make se the core is the "concepts" #mathchat
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It is all about connections. ie. reusing s
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stefras @colintgraham We are back to t
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o it. jump in! try it & tweak it. #mathchat 75292443330871297 - #144
tudent-driven' is a bit strong in my book.goals together. #mathchat
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rightdave Could be good teaching if youeeded... #mathchat
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in yes. Start with an intriguing problem to
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rightdave Rather than 'good teaching' th
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ndriss We're talking about the framewordifferent,aren't we? #mathchat 75292605226819584 - #149
ven curriculum? (Follow up)
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@stefras @peterflom Nei#MathChat Mon May 30 20:09:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @delta_dcesp. in elem. school, are not closMon May 30 20:09:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @deltaattribute which can be addressedMon May 30 20:09:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras RT @ColinTGrwould ask if it was 'good learning'Mon May 30 20:10:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @oldak Tellthings. #Mathchat Mon May 30 20:10:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@KTVee this is also abou just collecting knowledge, they acMon May 30 20:10:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss @delta_dc ymight skype with artist whose worMon May 30 20:10:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @ekenapt metaphor... remember learninMon May 30 20:11:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @stefras Hethe linked article is about. http://oMon May 30 20:11:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @peterflom Smentor elem teachers in math asMon May 30 20:11:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak @delta_dc Right,student-driven, if used to teacher-Mon May 30 20:11:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss @peterflomlearners. #mathchat
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f course "apprentice" requires a "masterto that #MathChat 75292862845157376 - #151
dc @stefras @ekendriss The 'learned hthrough guided learning, though #mathc75292863688216576 - #152
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t good ol' Blooms - kids evaluate & analyually use it #mathchat
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es, but now students can apprentice w/ vk--their inspiration. #mathchat 75293058899521536 - #156
riss @delta_dc @stefras The idea of "tto drive a car, if you did? #mathchat
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e. I do know what I mean by "participat.ly/567Tc #MathChat
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I agree. Problem is that students take ariven. #mathchat
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delta_dc all teachers, whatever level,
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iven learning?
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Mon May 30 20:12:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp @peterflomHungarian maths teachers are weMon May 30 20:12:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @delta_dc @olprojects, plenty of support. #mathMon May 30 20:12:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@downrightdave @frogMon May 30 20:12:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @oldak Not sMon May 30 20:12:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom Learn math tbadly. With teacher to help #MathMon May 30 20:12:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp Interesting fo#mathchat Mon May 30 20:12:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @KTVneeds a basis of knowledge/comMon May 30 20:13:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp @downrightdwe call it Primary... :-) #mathchat Mon May 30 20:13:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @peterflom YeCapsulize it please. #MathChat Mon May 30 20:13:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp RT @peterfloBy doing it badly. With teacher toMon May 30 20:13:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc Sorry #Mathcthis problem for me while I'm gonMon May 30 20:13:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reallara @delta_dc MoSo frustrating #mathchat Mon May 30 20:13:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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gree with elem teachers problem - but nll qualified for elem. #mathchat 75293478111821824 - #162
ak I agree. Plus more: student interest,hat
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mative maths teaching from Hungary: ht
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ave I meant no offense. I'm elementary t
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m: Learn math the way you learn to drahelp #MathChat 75293880223936512 - #171
at - got to run and pick up the 'puppy' fr. I'd appreciate it ;-)
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ing away from 'learned helplessness' in
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t so in some countries.
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@peterflom @downrightMon May 30 20:14:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@downrightdave @frog
attempting to do my part. #mathcMon May 30 20:14:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @oldakand expectations about how mathMon May 30 20:14:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Agreed. RT @ppiano. By doing it badly. With teacMon May 30 20:15:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@earlsamuelson RT @ppiano. By doing it badly. With teacMon May 30 20:15:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@SusanDElia check outstringing" of hands-on math + sciMon May 30 20:15:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc @reallara YeI'm gone! #Mathchat Mon May 30 20:15:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak @delta_dc If motwho have learnt to oppose & defy,Mon May 30 20:15:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@earlsamuelson ........anMon May 30 20:15:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @peterflom I hpaddle the canoe. #MathChat Mon May 30 20:15:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @stefras OKbasketball. By doing it badly, withMon May 30 20:15:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @frogpeducation from primary teachers,Mon May 30 20:15:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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ave That's why I didn't say "all". :-) #Mat75293930320703488 - #174
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@delta_dc You may also be fighting agematics "should be taught" #mathchat 75294128149245952 - #176
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but possible. I did this #TEDx about it h75294247116476416 - #180
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d learn from mistakes @peterflom #Mat75294314145648642 - #182
d a teach who called that "let them drow
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, learn math the way you learn to draw oteacher to help #MathChat 75294337436626944 - #184
hilp @peterflom The Finnish system alsonot 'just a certificate'... #mathchat 75294352812941312 - #185
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@ColinTGraham @deltaMon May 30 20:16:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp Youngest chil
unless it's just a 'baby-sitting serviMon May 30 20:17:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @stefras Heviolinist? It ain't pleasant! :-) #MatMon May 30 20:17:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @reall'free' lesson could work with justMon May 30 20:17:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak @ColinTGraham& undertake cognitively-demandinMon May 30 20:17:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom MT @frogphibest results. unless it's just 'baby-Mon May 30 20:18:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @frogphilp I thiprograms for elem is dropped forMon May 30 20:18:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham If the teway you learn to draw, etc... WithMon May 30 20:19:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @colintgrahof illeteracy, BTW).Mon May 30 20:19:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp @stefras AgrJHS, SHS rather than elementary.Mon May 30 20:20:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths @stefrconvincing ppl that maths doesn'tMon May 30 20:20:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @frogpfundamental concepts of mathemMon May 30 20:21:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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ra @delta_dc Sugata Mitra's "Hole in thfew questions to stimulate #mathchat
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a cher works well for you, not all do... @pteacher to help #MathChat 75295291749838849 - #194
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too, Dave! #Mathchat
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@peterflom RT @reflectippl that maths doesn't = arithmetiMon May 30 20:21:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahaemphasizes problem solving; basiMon May 30 20:22:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @reflectivemwriting. #MathChat Mon May 30 20:22:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahathrough writing does not produceMon May 30 20:22:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@SusanDElia Kills the sp& undertake cognitively-demandinMon May 30 20:23:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths @Colimake me a better teacher #mathcMon May 30 20:23:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @colintgrah#MathChat .Mon May 30 20:23:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @stefrthe Natnl curriculum as a crutch, rMon May 30 20:23:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @reflectivemMon May 30 20:24:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak What about hiddcovertly teach. Still teacher-drivenMon May 30 20:24:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @reflectivematB.Ed. did nothing to teach me hoMon May 30 20:24:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@SusanDElia +1 RT @pto creative writing. #MathChat Mon May 30 20:24:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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In Western Canada we are adopting acs reinforce along the way. #MathChat 75295962578427904 - #200
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@reflectivemaths @petecheck (aka calculator) #mathchat Mon May 30 20:24:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @peter"progression of big ideas in mathMon May 30 20:25:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths @peteunderstanding of what doing mathMon May 30 20:26:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @reflectivematuse calculators unless trig, stats,Mon May 30 20:26:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @oldakup a level is basically a responseMon May 30 20:26:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @reflecinformed teacher after the MEd...Mon May 30 20:27:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahastudent-driven. #mathchat Mon May 30 20:27:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahateacher-, programmer-driven. #mMon May 30 20:28:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @stefrstudent could use to explore a topMon May 30 20:29:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak @ColinTGrahambecause it entails a course/structMon May 30 20:29:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp The book allhttp://post.ly/27tsr Mon May 30 20:29:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp @reflectivemMasters and it's already made me
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rflom I like that. CREATIVE writing. You
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s BUt kids don't know how to do arithmether table... #mathchat
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@frogphilp @reflectivem#mathchat Mon May 30 20:29:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @oldakdriven by their rules though? #maMon May 30 20:29:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@SusanDElia To be mea
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@ColinTGraham @Susasteer it and push the pedals to leaMon May 30 20:30:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @peterflom BatMon May 30 20:30:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak @ColinTGrahambetween linear & sandbox video gMon May 30 20:31:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@ColinTGraham @stefrresource or approach they choosMon May 30 20:31:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss I'm enjoyingconsidered teacher-driven or studMon May 30 20:32:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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teries. #MathChat 75298132522577920 - #229
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@SusanDElia @ColinTGeducation to understand? #mathcMon May 30 20:32:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @ekenmathematical skills, I think. #mathMon May 30 20:32:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @oldak Gamerules are math based. Can't advaMon May 30 20:33:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @Susayou can learn mathematics by waMon May 30 20:33:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths @Colidon't know about? #mathchat Mon May 30 20:34:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Happened to soRT @peterflom: @stefras :-) #MaMon May 30 20:34:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@g4r37h @SusanDElia ssome teachers towards our GBL rMon May 30 20:34:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @Susacar...? Get your 'Gold Star' & youMon May 30 20:34:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp It's not solelynegotiated scaffolding at his schoMon May 30 20:35:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak @stefras Analogdesigned to teach touchtyping. CMon May 30 20:35:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGraharequires deliberate systematic solMon May 30 20:35:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss @colintgrahgames & puzzles in their math cla
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raham exactly! Why is this so difficult forat
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riss Games and puzzles are a very impchat 75298665924800512 - #236
ased math course sounds great. Also gce if can't master math. #mathchat
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nDElia What's worse is that institutionaliching videos.... #mathchat
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TGraham @stefras How can a student
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me people I knew in University. BatteriehChat
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ome of you might be surprised at the apesource www.learnalot.com #mathchat 75299094301642752 - #241
nDElia So, why no Khan Academy videoan go on the roads... #mathchat
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maths based, but here's what @oliverqul: http://bit.ly/ihOpCr #mathchat
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: "Typing of the Dead" by Saga. Arcade-n't advance w/o learning #mathchat
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Games and puzzles are math. Actuallying or posing is math. #mathchat
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m agree. sad is the math student who hssroom. #mathchat
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Mon May 30 20:35:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @colintgrahwork #MathChat Mon May 30 20:35:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths @stefrknow arithmetic #mathchat Mon May 30 20:35:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@g4r37h not all teachers(increased test results, student enMon May 30 20:35:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @reflec
possible approaches and/or challMon May 30 20:36:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@stefras @reflectivematoutcomes out at the beginning. TMon May 30 20:36:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths @stefr#mathchat Mon May 30 20:36:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom Grandmothethey have in Europe?": #MathChaMon May 30 20:36:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@g4r37h @frogphilp #gblMon May 30 20:37:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @stefrmathematical approach if you reaMon May 30 20:37:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs @ColinTGrahamade me more reflective - sorryMon May 30 20:37:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak Have we discusssupport/direction, while others thriMon May 30 20:38:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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see value in #gbl despite the evidence othusiasm for math) #mathchat 75299403170189313 - #249
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t's #gbl ? #mathchat 75299557470240768 - #251
s That is why the teacher needs to lay oen comes the fun. #mathchat
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as @ColinTGraham Do we count snake
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s Wouldn't necessarily go that far! Woulon deductively, though. #mathchat
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@ColinTGraham @reflecmoveable as a "what-if"... (ChutesMon May 30 20:38:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @reflectivematcalculus because they can't do ariMon May 30 20:39:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham One issor individual students doing the cMon May 30 20:39:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@g4r37h many studentsthat they want to solve #mathchat Mon May 30 20:39:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @reflectivematability to factor, GCF, LCM, multipMon May 30 20:40:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @oldakis a relation to individual cognitiveMon May 30 20:40:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths @Janthat. #mathchat Mon May 30 20:40:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@g4r37h 1 reason the Ustudents here are spoon-fed andMon May 30 20:40:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp Mary Briggsand #gbl in maths http://bit.ly/kmVMon May 30 20:40:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@SusanDElia @ColinTGbut now to take down the walls +Mon May 30 20:41:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahawhat the purpose or goal of a "lesMon May 30 20:41:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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s You wouldn't believe how many kids cthmetic. GCF? LCM? #mathchat 75300226063269888 - #260
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Learning styles and personal dynamicsdevelopment too. #mathchat
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I like the idea in some cases to challenson" is. #mathchat 75300784069279745 - #269
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@g4r37h if maths was abproblem-solving. #gbl promotes pMon May 30 20:41:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths @stefr#mathchat Mon May 30 20:41:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @reflectivematsolve or pose, not to run through.Mon May 30 20:42:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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league table for just problem solviMon May 30 20:42:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @stefrwe always seem to end up discusMon May 30 20:42:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom OK, but if wemuch pie is in that slice?" #MathCMon May 30 20:42:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahaMon May 30 20:43:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@nancyrubin Math Curricurriculum in TedxNYED session.Mon May 30 20:43:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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can't identify the concept as a thinMon May 30 20:43:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@g4r37h @frogphilp that'wales too - no league tables thereMon May 30 20:43:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@g4r37h @frogphilp leagingrained failures #mathchat Mon May 30 20:44:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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out regurgitating facts they'd be fine, butoblem-solving #mathchat
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it isn't - it's about
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@stefras @g4r37h DaveMon May 30 20:44:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@SusanDElia Life skills li
want kids to learn arithmetic, firstMon May 30 20:44:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom @nancyrubicurriculum here is AWFUL. #MathMon May 30 20:44:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath Advanttake 60 people to venue to see if tMon May 30 20:44:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @stefror prove Pythagoras' Theorem" CMon May 30 20:45:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@reflectivemaths @Coliimportant, kids would be able to dMon May 30 20:46:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @oldak I think iMon May 30 20:46:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @oldak"gamifying" the current curriculumMon May 30 20:46:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @reflectivematfractions before multiplying and diMon May 30 20:47:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs @reflectivematreflective ppl & further study anywMon May 30 20:47:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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ke sharing begin with fractions ;-) RT @
how them WHY. #MathChat 75301641003343872 - #284
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@g4r37h @ColinTGrahabut it's a very powerful string to aMon May 30 20:48:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@ColinTGraham @repugroupings and factors etc... #matMon May 30 20:48:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath Absolufractions were important, kids woMon May 30 20:48:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom When's the l#MathChat Mon May 30 20:48:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@nancyrubin A look at Phttp://t.co/mGrEjD4 #mathchat Mon May 30 20:49:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths @stefrplaying S+L: or would benefit if thMon May 30 20:49:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@stefras @ColinTGrahagoing to hate me, are other formsMon May 30 20:50:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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#gbl is a silver bullet,
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@g4r37h @republicofmatMon May 30 20:50:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom As for dividin
WHY? My teachers didn't Not surMon May 30 20:50:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@frogphilp @stefras Allchildren in national tests at the agMon May 30 20:50:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ekendriss thanks--it's btomorrow. wish me luck! #mathchMon May 30 20:50:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath ApologMon May 30 20:50:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom I remember tbaseball game #GBL #MathChat Mon May 30 20:51:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@g4r37h @frogphilp @st
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@stefras @peterflom @cfractions for pizza! #MathChat Mon May 30 20:51:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham @petermention for the moment! (ModeraMon May 30 20:51:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@SusanDElia Thx for shCreativity in Maths http://bit.ly/mmMon May 30 20:52:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@earlsamuelson @peterthough...... #MathChat Mon May 30 20:52:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@peterflom We shouldn'tbecause it's BEAUTIFUL #MathCMon May 30 20:52:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@antitheistangie RT @pWe should teach math because it'Mon May 30 20:52:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@peterflom @earlsamuecalculator, then yes. But w/calculMon May 30 20:53:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@nancyrubin RT @Colincompletely student-driven curriculMon May 30 20:53:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@g4r37h @reflectivematthere's such a thing as "game basMon May 30 20:53:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Generastudents will need to learn how toMon May 30 20:54:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@mrsdenyer @peterflombut also about reciprocals :-) #MaMon May 30 20:54:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@Not2Fear @peterflom iwhat is taught && the natural humMon May 30 20:55:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@oldak @reflectivemathsUnsure if this amounts to "beingMon May 30 20:55:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@nancyrubin Are You UStudent Learning and UnderstandMon May 30 20:56:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@g4r37h @oldak sure, amy point, but the ones at http://bit.Mon May 30 20:56:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@stefras Ha ha ha! HowIn my experience it's teachers whMon May 30 20:56:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@oldak @ColinTGrahampedagogical style. For dynamic toMon May 30 20:59:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@oldak @ColinTGrahamteachers are made to adopt this sMon May 30 21:03:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@Janshs #mathchat stdtdevelop a passion for maths? moMon May 30 21:04:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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