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Whatisconsciousness?Whatdoesitmeanforsomethingto"haveconsciousness"?Whatisthedifferencebetweensomethingthathasconsciousnessandsomethingthatdoesn't?
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Iseetwoapproachestothisissueandwillintroducethembybrieflydescribingthecontextanddevelopmentofeach,showinghowoneleadsintotheother.Ihaveendeavouredtokeepthisassimpleandconciseaspossibleforasubjectofthisdepth.
1)NaveRealistApproachNaverealismisacognitivehabitoperatingineachmomentofawarenessthatcausesthemindtoassumethatthesubjectiveobjectsofexperienceareinfactobjectiveexternalobjects.SeeJohnRingland'sanswertoWhatisnaverealism?
ThuswhenIseeachairinfrontofmeIsimplyassumethatthisisbecausethereisachairinfrontofme.Idonotquestiontheperceptualformsthatariseinthemind,northeconceptualcategoriesthatIhabituallyassociatewiththoseforms.Hencethisformofrealismiscallednave,becauseitisanunconsideredandmerelyassumedepistemologicalposition.Whenitisexpressedasaconsciouslyheldphilosophicalbeliefitiscalleddirectrealism.
Wethenlookoutfromthisperspectiveof"beingme"uponan"externalphysicaluniverse".Itmayturnouttobetrue,butatthispointtherehasbeennoevidencewhatsoever.Therehasonlybeentheaccumulationofbeliefsarisingfromnaverealistassumptionsaboutthecontentsofsubjectiveawareness.Thusthemindconformstoaselfreproducingclosedloopofhiddenassumptions.
Thiskeepsthecognitiveandculturaldiscoursesunwittinglyboundwithinanaverealistframework.Thisformsintoanallpervasiveunconsciousparadigm.See
JohnRingland'sanswertoDowehaveacollectiveparadigm?Else,isitfragmented?
JohnRingland'sanswertoCaniteverbesaidthatScientificrealismtakesofffromthespringboardofcommonsenseornaiverealism?and
JohnRingland'sanswertoHassciencebecometoodogmatic?
WhatIsConsciousness?
Fromthisstandpointweclaimthatwearephysicalorganismsandthatthebrainimplementsconsciousnessvianeuralactivity.Thenweaskourselves"Whatisconsciousness?"
FromthisperspectiveitisknowntoscienceastheHardProblemofConsciousness,becausenobodyreallyhasacluehowtoansweritorevenhowtoworktowardsananswer.Therearemanyworkingonthe'easy'aspects,suchashowdoneuralnetworksfunctionandsoon.Butnothingfromthesefieldscanaddressthe'hard'problemofexperientialawareness.
Thereallyhardproblemofconsciousnessistheproblemofexperience.
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Whenwethinkandperceive,thereisawhirofinformationprocessing,butthereisalsoasubjectiveaspect.AsNagel(1974)hasputit,thereissomethingitisliketobeaconsciousorganism.Thissubjectiveaspectisexperience.Whenwesee,forexample,weexperiencevisualsensations:thefeltqualityofredness,theexperienceofdarkandlight,thequalityofdepthinavisualfield.(DavidChalmers,FacingUptotheProblemofConsciousness )
Furthermore,thewholeunderlyingparadigmisbeginningtofallapart.Forinstance,eachattempttolocateandstudy'matter'hasprovenitnottoexist.SeeWhatismatter?andDoesmatterexist?
"Letusnowreturntoourultimateparticlesandtosmallorganizationsofparticlesasatomsorsmallmolecules.Theoldideaaboutthemwasthattheirindividualitywasbasedontheidentityofmatterinthem...Thenewideaisthatwhatispermanentintheseultimateparticlesorsmallaggregatesistheirshapeandorganization...Theyareasitwere,pureshape,nothingbutshapewhatturnsupagainandagaininsuccessiveobservationsisthisshape,notanindividualspeckofmaterial..."(ErwinSchrdinger )
[Thus]modernphilosophicalmaterialistsattempttoextendthedefinitionofmattertoincludeotherscientificallyobservableentitiessuchasenergy,forces,andthecurvatureofspace.HoweverthisopensthemtofurthercriticismfromphilosopherssuchasMaryMidgleywhosuggestthattheconceptof'matter'iselusiveandpoorlydefined.(Wikipedia,Materialism )
Tosomedegreeskepticismmanifestsitselfinthescientificmethod,whichdemandsthatallthingsassumedasfactsbequestioned.Butthepositivismofmanyscientists,whetherlatentoropen,isincompatiblewithskepticism,foritacceptswithoutquestiontheassumptionthatmaterialeffectisimpossiblewithoutmaterialcause.(TheColumbiaEncyclopedia)
Empiricalscienceonlyclaims"thatagoodtheoryneedonlyprovideanempiricallyadequatedescriptionofobservablephenomena"(StanfordEncyclopediaofPhilosophy,Rationalismvs.Empiricism )
Itdoesn'tclaimtobeabletoascertainanykindoftruthbutratheritonlyclaimstohavephenomenologicaladequacyregardingdescriptionsofourperceptionsofthings.Thismeansthatempiricalscienceisfundamentallyunabletoaddressanyquestionsofontology(whatactuallyis)anditcanonlyaddressquestionsofphenomenology(thatwhichappearstothehumanmind).
Empiricistsclaimthatsenseexperienceistheultimatesourceofallourconceptsandknowledge(StanfordEncyclopediaofPhilosophy,Rationalismvs.Empiricism )
Becauseofthisrelianceontheobjectsofsenseperception,whichareunquestioninglyassumedtobeexternalobjects,empiricalsciencehassuccumbedtonaverealismandsubtlydevolvedintoScientism.
Thisisbecauseempiricistsdidnotquestionthenatureandvalidityofsenseexperiences,orofthemindthatishavingthem,butmerelytookthemasbeingrepresentativeofbeingapersoninaphysicaluniverse.SeeJohnRingland'sanswertoCaniteverbesaidthatScientificrealismtakesofffromthespringboardofcommonsenseornaiverealism?
Naverealismitselfhasbeenchallengedbyphilosophy,psychologyandneuroscience,andnowquantummechanicshasprovenbeyondalldoubtthatnaverealismisafalseepistemologythatprovidesfalseknowledgeofreality.
TheSternGerlachexperimentinparticulardrivesthispointhome.SeeJohnRingland'sanswertoInsimpleterms,whatdoestheSternGerlachexperiment
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implyaboutthenatureofquantumsystemsandobservablephenomena?
Thusthereisaparadigmshifthappening!
Thereisamajordangerousscientificideaincontemporaryphysics,withapotentialimpactcomparabletoCopernicusorDarwin.Itistheideathatwhatthephysicsofthe20thcenturysaysabouttheworldmightinfactbetrue.(C.Rovelli,THEWORLDQUESTIONCENTER2006 )
Andquantumphysicistsaremakingstartlingclaimsthatarebackedupbyundeniableevidence.
Wehavenosatisfactoryreasonforascribingobjectiveexistencetophysicalquantitiesasdistinguishedfromthenumbersobtainedwhenwemakethemeasurementswhichwecorrelatewiththem.Thereisnorealreasonforsupposingthataparticlehasateverymomentadefinite,butunknown,positionwhichmayberevealedbyameasurementoftherightkind...Onthecontrary,wegetintoamazeofcontradictionassoonasweinjectintoquantummechanicssuchconceptsascarriedoverfromthelanguageandphilosophyofourancestors...Itwouldbemoreexactifwespokeofmakingmeasurementsofthis,that,ortheothertypeinsteadofsayingthatwemeasurethis,that,ortheotherphysicalquantity.(EdwinC.Kemble )
[W]ehavetogiveuptheideaofrealismtoafargreaterextentthanmostphysicistsbelievetoday.(AntonZeilinger )...Byrealism,hemeanstheideathatobjectshavespecificfeaturesandpropertiesthataballisred,thatabookcontainstheworksofShakespeare,orthatanelectronhasaparticularspin...itmaymakenosensetothinkofthemashavingwelldefinedcharacteristics.(P.Ball,Physicistsbidfarewelltoreality? )
Itisnotjustparticlesandatomsthataregovernedbyquantummechanics.
Quantummechanicsisincreasinglyappliedtolargerandlargerobjects.Evenaonetonbarproposedtodetectgravitywavesmustbeanalysedquantummechanically.Incosmology,awavefunctionforthewholeuniverseiswrittentostudytheBigBang.Itgetshardertodaytononchalantlyaccepttherealminwhichthequantumrulesapplyassomehownotbeingphysicallyreal...Quantummechanicsforcesustoabandonnaverealism.(QuantumEnigma:PhysicsEncountersConsciousness:BruceRosenblum,FredKuttner )
Ifthereisanythingtobelearnedfromthelonghistoryoftheepistemologicaldebate,itisthattheissueisbynomeanssimpleortrivial,andthatwhateverisultimatelydeterminedtobethetruthofepistemology,wecanbesurethatitwilldoconsiderableviolencetoourcommonsenseviewofthings...Inscience,irrefutableevidencetriumphsoverincredibility,andthisisexactlywhatgivessciencethepowertodiscoverunexpectedorincredibletruth.(StevenLehar )
Andthenthereisalsoundeniableevidencecomingfromrigorousexperimentsthat"suggestthatconsciousnessitself,unaidedbyknownphysicalmechanisms,caninfluencephysicalreality.(PEAROrientation)Andtheresultsareunlikelybychancetotheorderof10^12(oneinatrillion).Whichismorerigorouslyproventhanmanycommonlyacceptedscientific'facts'.(R.G.JahnandB.J.Dunne,"Thepearproposition",JournalofScientificExploration,vol.19,no.2,pp.195245,2005,http://www.scientificexploration... )
TheexperimentswereconductedbythePrincetonEngineeringAnomaliesResearch PEARlabfor28years,usingquantumrandomeventgenerators(REGs ).Itwasshownthatconsciousnesscreatesafieldofambient'coherence'thatdrivesquantumprocessesawayfromrandomnessandtowardsorder.Thiscanalsobefocusedasintentionalinfluence.
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Clearlytheoldparadigmcannotexplainthesephenomena.Thusscienceisforcedtoshiftawayfromanaverealist,empiricist,materialistfoundation.Thusanewparadigmisneeded!SeethequestionWhatdotheresultsofthePEARGCPICRLexperimentssayaboutconsciousnessandhowcanwescientificallyexplainthem?andalsoNowthatnaiverealismhasbeendisprovenbyquantummechanics,howwillthisimpactourcollectiveparadigm?
2)NonNaveRealistApproachFromanonnaverealistperspective,oneremainsstaunchlysceptical(openenquiry,withoutassumptionorprejudice).Whatcanbeknownforsurefromthisperspective?
Inrealitythereisnoperson,onlythewatcheridentifyinghimselfwiththe'I'andthe'mine'...youarenotthis,thereisnothingofyoursinthis,exceptthelittlepointof"Iam",whichisthebridgebetweenthewatcherandhisdream."Iamthis,Iamthat"isdream,whilepure"Iam"hasthestampofrealityonit.(SriNisargadattaMaharaj,IamThat )
When"Iamseeingachairinfrontofme"thisisbecauseIamandthecontentofawarenessconsistsofperceptualformsthatthemindhascometoassociatewiththeideaofachair.Thusthereistheinterplayofsensoryexperiencesandassociative(memory)experiences.
IfIremainquietandsimplyobservethecontentsofawarenessIfindthatthereisceaselessactivity.Ifthisactivityisidentifiedwiththenawarenessiscarriedoffonsomesequenceofthoughts.BybringingawarenessbackagaintothespaceofawarenessIcannoticethatduringthatsequence,Iwasnotawareofthespaceofawareness,butonlyofthethoughts.ThusIwasnotawareofmyself.
Icanobservethestructureofthecontentsofawarenessandnotethatsomeareassociatedwithideassuchasme,body,mind,world,chair,etc.AsanexperimentIcanthenceasebringingawarenessbackintothespaceofawarenessandIletitbecarriedoffononesequenceofthoughtsafteranother,identifyingwithandparticipatinginthestoryofme,body,mind,world,chair,etc.Thisisthemostcommon"everyday"stateofmind.
DuringthisprocessIamwhollyabsorbedinthestoryofmyselfasapersonwithabodyandamind,livinginaworldandsittingonachair.DuringthisprocessIamnotawareofthespaceofawarenessthe"Iam",whichistheonlytruecertainty.ThusIhavelostsightofcertaintyandenteredintoaworldcomposedentirelyofidentificationswithsensoryphenomenaandmemoryassociationswhichareinterpretedthroughthelensofapersoninaworld.
"Thepersonismerelytheresultofamisunderstanding.Inreality,thereisnosuchthing.Feelings,thoughtsandactionsracebeforethewatcherinendlesssuccession,leavingtracesinthebrainandcreatinganillusionofcontinuity.Areflectionofthewatcherinthemindcreatesthesenseof'I'andthepersonacquiresanapparentlyindependentexistence.(SriNisargadattaMaharaj,IamThat )
Thereareotherexperimentsthatonecouldconductasone'sdegreeofdetachmentincreases,suchaskeepingawarenesswithinthespaceofawarenesswhilstthecontentsofawarenessgothroughvariousdifferentprocesses(statesofmindsuchasmoods,ideas,sleep,dreams,personalities,etc).Inallthesecasesthecontentsofawarenesscanchangesignificantly,howeverthespaceofawarenessremainsentirelyunchanged.Justasadigitalimageleavesnotraceonacomputerscreenafterithasgone.Allkindsofphenomenacanplayacrossthe'screen'ofawareness,butawarenessisnotinfluencedbythecontent.
"Gowithin,gobeyond.Ceasebeingfascinatedwiththecontentofyourconsciousness.Whenyoureachthedeeplayersofyourtruebeing,youwill
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findthatthemind'ssurfaceplayaffectsyouverylittle...Arayofawarenessilluminesapartofourmindandthatpartbecomesourdreamorwakingconsciousness,whileawarenessappearsasthewitness.Thewitnessusuallyknowsonlyconsciousness.Sadhana(pathleadingtorealization)consistsinthewitnessturningback,firstonhisconscious,thenuponhimselfinhisownawareness.SelfawarenessisYoga(unionwithexistence).(SriNisargadattaMaharaj,IamThat )
WhatIsConsciousness?
BybringingawarenessbacktothespaceofawarenessIcannowask"Whatisconsciousness?"
Whilstidentifiedwiththestoryofme,body,mind,world,chair,etcitseemedasifconsciousnesswasthemindwithitspersonality,perception,memory,intellect,etc.
Howeverfromtheperspectiveofawarenesswithinthespaceofawareness,Irealisethatthesearethecontentsofawarenessandthatconsciousnesshasitsrootinpureawareness,whichIam,anditunfoldsthroughmyriadcomplexsystemsofperception,memory,thought,etcintoanelaboratecognitivememeplexthatwecallthemind.
Thishoweverisnotaformofsolipsism,becausealthoughtheonlythingthatIamcertainofisIam,atthislevelofawarenessthereisapassagethroughtoanexpansivenessofuniversalawareness.Atthislevelofconsciousnessthereisonlyoneconsciousness,butitsnot'mine'inasolipsistsense(theideas'me'and'mine'arejustcontentsofawareness)itisauniversalconsciousness.
"Whenthissupercontemplativestateisreached,theYogiacquirespurespiritualrealisationthroughthebalancedquietofthechitta(thinkingprinciple).Hisperceptionisnowunfailinglyexact(orhismindrevealsonlythetruth).Thisparticularperceptionisuniqueandrevealsthatwhichtherationalmind(usingtestimony,inferenceanddeduction)cannotreveal.Itishostileto,orsupersedesallotherimpressions.Whenthisstateofperceptionisitselfalsorestrained(orsuperseded)thenispureSamadhiachieved."(SamadhiPada,4751,YogaSutrasofPatanjali )
TorecapI'llsummarisewithaquotefromtheLankavataraSutra.
"Solongaspeopledonotunderstandthetruenatureoftheobjectiveworld,theyfallintothedualisticviewofthings.Theyimaginethemultiplicityofexternalobjectstoberealandbecomeattachedtothemandarenourishedbytheirhabitenergy.Becauseofthissystemofmentation,mindandwhatbelongstoitisdiscriminatedandisthoughtofasrealthisleadstotheassertionofanegosoulanditsbelongings,andthusthemindsystemgoesonfunctioning.Dependinguponandattachingitselftothedualistichabitofmind,theyaccepttheviewsofthephilosophersfoundedupontheseerroneousdistinctions,ofbeingandnonbeing,existenceandnonexistence,andthereevolveswhatwecallfalseimaginations...
Falseimaginationsrisefromtheconsiderationofappearancesthingsarediscriminatedastoform,signsandshapeastohavingcolour,warmth,humidity,mobilityorrigidity.Falseimaginationconsistsofbecomingattachedtotheseappearancesandtheirnames...
Thefivesensefunctionsandtheirdiscriminatingandthinkingfunctionhavetheirrisingsandcompleteendingfrommomenttomoment...Bysettingupnamesandformsgreedismultipliedandthusthemindgoesonmutuallyconditioningandbeingconditioned.Bybecomingattachedtonamesandforms,notrealisingthattheyhavenomorebasisthantheactivitiesoftheminditself,errorarises,falseimaginationastopleasureandpainarises,andthewaytoemancipationisblocked...
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Bythecessationofthemindsystemasawholeismeant,thecessationofdiscrimination,theclearingawayofthevariousattachments,and,therefore,theclearingawayofthedefilementsofhabitenergyinthefaceofUniversalMindwhichhavebeenaccumulatingsincebeginninglesstimebyreasonofthesediscriminations,attachments,erroneousreasonings,andfollowingacts.GettingridofthediscriminatingmortalmindisNirvana.
Butthecessationofthediscriminatingmindcannottakeplaceuntiltherehasbeena"turningabout"'inthedeepestseatofconsciousness.Thementalhabitoflookingoutwardbythediscriminatingminduponanexternalobjectiveworldmustbegivenup,andanewhabitofrealisingTruthwithintheintuitivemindbybecomingonewiththeTruthitselfmustbeestablished...Withtheendingofpleasureandpain,ofconflictingideas,ofthedisturbinginterestsofegoism,astateoftranquillisationwillbeattainedinwhichthetruthsofemancipationwillbefullyunderstood..."(LankavataraSutra )
Howlongwillittaketogetfreeofthediscriminatingmind?
Itmaytakeathousandyears,butreallynotimeisrequired.Allyouneedistobeindeadearnest.Herethewillisthedeed.Ifyouaresincere,youhaveit.Afterall,itisamatterofattitude.Nothingstopsyoufrombeingagnani(knowerofSupremeKnowledge)hereandnow,exceptfear.Youareafraidofbeingimpersonal,ofimpersonalbeing.Itisallquitesimple.Turnawayfromyourdesiresandfearsandfromthethoughtstheycreateandyouareatonceinyournaturalstate."(SriNisargadattaMaharaj,IamThat )
Onlythenwillyoutrulyknowwhatconsciousnessis.Theanswerisnotadescriptioninwordsandideas(whicharejustthecontentofawareness)butaprocessbywhichtotasteitandknowitasyourownsubjectivespaceofawareness.Onlythenwillthequestionwhatisconsciousness?beansweredforyou.
Onecannotjustplaywiththe'contents'ofawarenessandtherebycometoadeepappreciationofconsciousness.Sodon'tjustlookatthesewordsandthinkaboutthem,alsoletthemdirectyourattentiontoyourselfandletthatperspectiveinformyou.
Sowhatcanbesaidaboutconsciousness?InwordsIcansaythatconsciousnessisthegroundofbeingfromwhichallmanifestationarises.Itisbothuniversalandpersonal,anditenlivensandanimatesallsystems,includingthosethoughttobe'inanimate'.
Thatwhichpermeatesall,whichnothingtranscendsandwhich,liketheuniversalspacearoundus,fillseverythingcompletelyfromwithinandwithout,thatSupremenondualBrahmanthatthouart.(AdiShankara )
"Therealdoesnotdie,theunrealneverlived.Onceyouknowthatdeathhappenstothebodyandnottoyou,youjustwatchyourbodyfallingofflikeadiscardedgarment.Therealyouistimelessandbeyondbirthanddeath."(SriNisargadattaMaharaj,IamThat )
"Whatisitthathadbirth?Whomdoyoucallahumanbeing?If,insteadofseekingexplanationsforbirth,deathandafterdeath,thequestionisraisedastowhoandhowyouarenow,thesequestionswillnotarise...Thebodyisbornagainandagain.Wewronglyidentifyourselveswiththebody,andhenceimaginewearereincarnatedconstantly.No.WemustidentifyourselveswiththetrueSelf.Therealisedoneenjoysunbrokenconsciousness,neverbrokenbybirthordeathhowcanhedie?Onlythosewhothink'Iamthebody'talkofreincarnation.Tothosewhoknow'IamtheSelf'thereisnorebirth.Reincarnationsonlyexistsolongasthereisignorance.Thereisnoincarnation,eithernow,beforeorhereafter.Thisisthetruth."(RamanaMaharshi )
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Howcanthisbescientificallyunderstood?Ausefulanalogyisvirtualrealitysimulation,whereasingleanimatingsourcecreatesworldsofvirtualphenomena,whereevolvingsentientmindsexperiencethemselvesasindividualbeingsinaworldofobjectsinspaceandtime.TheanimatingthreadthatrunsthroughallsystemsistheIamawareness.Allvirtualphenomenalackafundamentalselfnature,theyareephemeralformswithoutpermanentsubstance,theyare'sunnyata'(emptyofselfnature).Formoreonthesubjectofsimulatedrealitysee:
JohnRingland'sanswertoTheBigPhilosophicalQuestions:IstheUniverseaSimulation?
JohnRingland'sanswertoWhatcanbelearnedfromvideogamesthatishardtolearnanyotherway?
JohnRingland'sanswertoWhatissentience?
Quantummechanicsiscompatiblewiththissimulationanalogy,forexample:
ifweacceptthequantizationofspaceandtimeasabasicfactofthestructureofouruniverse,thenwemaygoontoconsiderhowbothofthesepropertieshappentobeintrinsictotheoperationsofacomputer(RossRhodes,CyberneticInterpretationofQuantumMechanics ).
AlsoseeJohnRingland'sanswertoIslightawaveoraparticle?
Bythinkingofquantummechanicsinthiswaytheseeminglyparadoxicalaspectsofquantummechanicsareseentobecommonfeaturesofinformationprocessesandvirtualworlds.Forexample,thePlanckfrequency(1.859x10^43Hz)isanalogoustotheframerateofasimulatedvirtualreality.
Wheelerlabelstheindividualquantumphenomenonanelementaryactofcreation.Weasobserversplayasignificantroleinthisprocesssincewecandecidebychoosingthemeasuringdevicewhichquantumphenomenonisrealized.Still,wecannotinfluencethespecificvalueobtainedthroughthemeasurement.Finally,sincewearepartoftheuniverse,theuniverse,accordingtoWheeler,createsitselfbyobservingitselfthroughus...(Quantummechanicshas)graduallybroughttheroleoftheobserverintothecenterofourdiscussion,arolewhichisexpressedbyClauserinhisjointanalysiswithShimonyofthepresentEPRBellsituationasfollows:"perhapsanunheardtreefallingintheforestmakesnosoundafterall".(AntonZeilinger,OntheInterpretationandPhilosophicalFoundationofQuantumMechanics )
Inthisparadigmallsystemsareobserversandhaveexperientialawareness,withoutwhichtheycouldnotinteractthisisaformofpanpsychism,inparticularpanprotoexperientialism,Russellianmonism,TypeFmonismorNeutralmonism(GoogleRussellian"TypeF""Neutralmonism ").Thesearetheviewthatconsciousnessisconstitutedbytheintrinsicpropertiesofreality.
Onthisview,phenomenalorprotophenomenalpropertiesarelocatedatthefundamentallevelofphysicalreality,andinacertainsense,underliephysicalrealityitself.(TheBlackwellGuidetoPhilosophyofMind )
AlsoseeJohnRingland'sanswertoWhatisitliketobeaquantumcomputationalprocess?
Howeverjustastherearedegreesofcomplexityof'outer'forms,therearealsodegreesofcomplexityof'inner'processes.Thesimplestsystemshaveonlyasimplestreamofpureawarenessbywhichtheyexperienceandinteract,theyarenotawarethattheyareaware,theyarejustaware.Howeverthentherearesystemssuchasourselves,withextremelycomplexinternalfeedbackloops(e.g.brains),thathavecometoknowthattheyknowthattheyknow.
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Sowhilstthemindandpersonalityareaproductofbiosociomemeticevolution,theinnermostawarenesswithinallsystemsistheuniversalanimatingprocess.
ForsomebriefcommentsandmanyquotesseeVirtualRealityAnalogyAlongsideScienceandMysticism .Foradetailedphilosophical,theoreticalandmathematicaldiscussionseeTheObjectiveInformationProcess&VirtualSubjectiveExperiencesHypothesis orjustthemathematicalaspectsSystemScienceofVirtualReality .Thisworkdevelopsfromfirstprinciplesthefoundationsofamathematicalscienceofinformationsystemsandvirtualrealitysimulation.Withinthiscontextitrederivesthefoundationsofquantummechanicsanddiscussesnaverealismandthe'hard'problemofconsciousness,whichbecomesaneasyproblemfromthisperspectivebecausethenaverealisttendencytoignoresubjectiveexperiencefromtheoutsetisavoidedfromtheoutset.
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