05.21.14 in the Interest of Allison Sue Amen Witness Lisa B. Amen Vol. II (Full)

In The Matter Of:In The Interest of Allison Sue Amen, et al.

Lisa B. Amen

Vol. II

May 21, 2014

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1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF JACKSON COUNTY, MISSOURI FAMILY COURT DIVISION

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3 IN THE INTEREST OF: )CASE NUMBERS: ALLISON SUE AMEN )1416-JU000057

4 TAYLOR MARIE AMEN )1416-JU000058 )

5 SEX: F BORN 11-FEB-1977 )LIFE NO. 1316-JR00589 25-SEP-2000 ) 1316-JR00081

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7 IN THE CIRCUIT OF JACKSON COUNTY, MISSOURI FAMILY COURT DIVISION

8 IN THE INTEREST OF: )CASE NUMBERS:

9 KAITLYN ARQUEMBOURG ) 1416-JU00066 KELLY ARQUEMBOURG ) 1416-JU00067

10 KARA LAMBROS ) 1416-JU00068 ISABELLA AMEN ) 1416-JU00069

11 JESSIE AMEN ) 1416-JU00387

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13 DEPOSITION OF LISA B. AMEN, produced,

14 sworn and examined on MAY 21ST, 2014, between the

15 hours of 4:00 o'clock in the afternoon and 6:00

16 o'clock in the afternoon of that day, at the Law

17 Offices of Young, Jakobe & Kuhl, LLC, 3300 NE Ralph

18 Powell Road, Lee's Summit, Missouri, 64064 before

19 Mary Lynn Cushing, a Certified Court Reporter (MO),

20 in a certain cause now pending in the Circuit Court

21 of Jackson County, Missouri, Family Court Division,

22 IN The Interest Of: ALLISON SUE AMEN, TAYLOR MARIE

23 AMEN, KAITLYN ARQUEMBOURG, KELLY ARQUEMBOURG, KARA

24 LAMBROS, ISABELLA AMEN, JESSIE AMEN; on behalf of the

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1 A P P E A R A N C E S

2 For the Lisa B. Amen:

3 Abraham D. Kuhl YOUNG, JAKOBE & KUHL, LLC

4 3300 NE Ralph Powell Road Lee's Summit, Missouri 64064

5 (816)246-981 [email protected]

6 For the Steven and Kristi Amen:

7 Graydon S. Price

8 ANDERSON & PRICE, PC 4218 Roanoke Road

9 Suite 305 Kansas City, Missouri 64111


11 Guardian Ad Litem for Allison Sue

12 Amen, Taylor Marie Amen:

13 Kea Shani Bird-Riley JACKSON COUNTY CASA

14 2544 Holmes Kansas City, Missouri 64108

15 (816)842-2272

16 Guardian Ad Litem for Kaitlyn Arquembourg, Kelly Arquembourg, Kara

17 Lambros, Isabella Amen, Jessie Amen:

18 Lori Burns-Bucklaw SHOOK, HARDY & BACON

19 2555 Grand Boulevard Kansas City, Missouri 64108


21 For the Juvenile Officer:

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23 Kelsey E. Vujnich 625 E. 26th Street

24 Kansas City, Missouri 64108 (816)435-4725

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1 IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED by

2 and between counsel for all parties and the Guardian

3 Ad Litems, that this deposition may be taken in

4 shorthand by Mary Lynn Cushing, CCR, a Certified

5 Court Reporter, and afterwards transcribed into

6 typewriting; and the signature of the witness is

7 expressly reserved.

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9 LISA B. AMEN,

10 of lawful age, produced, sworn and examined on behalf

11 of the Guardian Ad Litems, deposes and says:

12 (Starting time of the deposition: 4:00 p.m.)

13 EXAMINATION

14 BY MR. PRICE:

15 Q. Okay. Do you understand that you're

16 still under oath?

17 A. Yes.

18 Q. And do you understand this is a

19 continuation from your prior deposition, which I

20 believe was on May 1st, is that right?

21 A. Yes.

22 Q. Okay. And we weren't able to finish

23 that so we had to come back today. Do you remember

24 the rules of that deposition?

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1 Q. Okay. Do I need to go over those with

2 you again or can we have those same agreements?

3 A. We don't need to go over those again.

4 Q. Okay. Can we have the same agreement?

5 A. Yes.

6 Q. Okay. First I'm going to ask you when

7 we talked last time you said that you had a letter

8 from Allie which she had threatened suicide several

9 years ago and she made a list of good people and bad

10 people. And you said Steve was on the good side of

11 that list and he was not on the bad side. You were

12 going to try to get a copy. You were going to try to

13 locate that and bring it in today. Were you able to

14 find that?

15 A. I don't remember that I was suppose to

16 look through that, but I know where it is. I mean I

17 didn't bring it in today.

18 Q. Okay. Is that something that you can

19 get to your attorney Mr. Kuhl in order to give to us?

20 A. We didn't talk about what we were

21 doing with documents like that or being shared I

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23 MR. KUHL: Can we go off the record

24 for a second?

25 MR. PRICE: Yes.



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2 Q. (By Mr. Price) You've had a chance to

3 talk to your attorney at this point and I think my

4 prior question was, there's apparently a suicide note

5 you have from Allie from several years ago?

6 A. Yes.

7 Q. And you still have that, is that

8 correct?

9 A. Yes.

10 Q. Are you going to be able to turn that

11 over to your attorney so we can get a copy?

12 A. That's fine.

13 MR. KUHL: And just to clarify, you

14 said suicide note. Prior to that you had stated that

15 there were -- was a list of good names and bad names.

16 MR. PRICE: On the suicide note. This

17 is based upon when we talked last time at her

18 deposition she said that this note had a list with

19 it, and I want the note in its entirety including any

20 list that was with it.

21 MR. KUHL: I just want to make sure

22 we're turning over the correct document to you, not

23 what she wrote in first grade about a bad teacher. I

24 want to make sure we're giving you the correct

25 document that you're referencing. So we're all on



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1 the same page, there's a suicide note that

2 encompassed a good list and bad list and your

3 statement indicated earlier Mr. Amen was on the good

4 list, so that document is what you are wanting to get

5 a copy of?

6 MR. PRICE: That's correct.

7 Q. (By Mr. Price) And you can get us a

8 copy of that?

9 A. Yes.

10 Q. Now we also discussed that -- we were

11 going over dates and you said you had your visitation

12 dates and things on a calendar?

13 A. Yes.

14 Q. And you were going to, I think, bring

15 that with you today. Did you bring that?

16 A. I e-mailed it to my attorney.

17 MR. KUHL: That's correct.

18 MR. PRICE: I don't have a copy of

19 that. Can I get a copy of that?

20 MR. KUHL: I can forward that to you.

21 I just haven't had a chance to review it. I want to

22 make sure there isn't something in there.

23 MR. PRICE: I think we need it for the

24 depo today because my understanding was that she was

25 going to be using it to refresh her memory to help



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1 testify to certain dates which would mean we would

2 have to have it here. Can you -- how long would it

3 take for you to review that, Abe?

4 MR. KUHL: If you want to ask other

5 questions, I can review it as we're going along, and

6 then I can print it off and have copies brought out.

7 MR. PRICE: How many pages is it, do

8 you know?

9 MR. KUHL: 20.

10 MR. PRICE: How long do you think that

11 would take you to review it?

12 MR. KUHL: I don't know, Grady,

13 however long it takes to do 20 page. I don't know

14 how many questions you have that don't involve dates,

15 but if I can do it while we're reviewing this, we can

16 move a lot quicker.

17 MR. PRICE: I'll start and if you can

18 let me know -- I want to start up with the dates, but

19 I'll go ahead and start with some other questions.

20 Okay.

21 Q. (By Mr. Price) Was there a point where

22 Allie threatened to run off to Washington State, the

23 State of Washington?

24 A. Not to me, no. She never told me she

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1 Q. Are you aware of a plan like that?

2 A. I'm aware that she had apparently told

3 some friends at school that she had a plan like that.

4 Q. Okay. And do you know why -- and how

5 old was she when she --

6 A. She was a Freshman at the Freshman

7 Center.

8 Q. And that would be how many years ago?

9 What's she now?

10 A. She's a junior.

11 Q. Okay. So would that be three years

12 ago or two years ago? Two years ago?

13 A. I guess so.

14 Q. Okay. You guess so. How old is she

15 now?

16 A. She's 17.

17 Q. Okay. Would she have been around 14

18 or 15 at the time?

19 A. 14 or 15, yes.

20 Q. And was she dating -- as far as this

21 incident, was it related to somebody that was older

22 than her?

23 A. I do not remember.

24 Q. Do you know if there was -- do you

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1 A. No, I do not.

2 Q. Have you ever seen -- did you discuss

3 the situation with her? How did you find out about

4 it?

5 A. I got a phone call from the school

6 that a couple students that were on the debate team

7 had written a letter to the school regarding things

8 that Allie had told them that concerned them and

9 wanted the principal and counselors to be aware and

10 so they called me and told me about it.

11 Q. Okay. Was that all you did about it

12 or did you follow-up in anyway?

13 A. I went to the school and talked to the

14 resource officer, I talked to the principal, I think

15 the vice-principal and there was some other people in

16 the room. I don't remember who they were.

17 Q. Did you ask why she had threat -- did

18 you ask to see the note?

19 A. Yes.

20 Q. Did you read the note?

21 A. Of course.

22 Q. Okay. Did you question her about the

23 note?

24 A. I'm sure I did.

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1 since she was threatening to run off?

2 A. Yeah. There were some important

3 things, but she told me at the time she was not going

4 to run away.

5 Q. Did you just drop it and leave it at

6 that?

7 A. Well, I was dealing with some other

8 issues with that note, so that was -- you know, just

9 kept a closer eye on her I mean.

10 Q. Okay. But you don't -- you read this

11 note, which was important, but you have no idea why

12 she was threatening to run off?

13 A. I don't remember. I just don't

14 remember.

15 Q. Not something significant enough for

16 you to remember?

17 A. I just don't remember.

18 Q. Okay. Did you follow-up in anyway

19 with her after that? Did you have a discussion with

20 her about the note?

21 A. Yes, I think I said earlier that I

22 did.

23 Q. How long was that discussion?

24 A. I don't know, it was two years ago.

25 Q. Was it an important discussion or



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1 non-important --

2 A. I'm sure it was very important.

3 Q. But you don't remember what was

4 discussed?

5 A. Not in detail.

6 Q. Well, generally what do you think was

7 discussed?

8 MR. KUHL: I object, that calls for

9 speculation. She's already asked and answered that

10 she doesn't remember.

11 MR. PRICE: I think she's being

12 evasive. I have a hard time believing she remembers

13 nothing about a note that she discussed with her

14 daughter threatening to run away to Washington.

15 MR. BARRY: I object because I think

16 that was an inappropriate statement for a deposition

17 and almost an attorney testifying, so I object and

18 request the Court to strike that in its entirety.

19 Q. (By Mr. Price) Again, there's no Judge

20 here so there will be objections made, but you can go

21 ahead and answer questions unless your attorney tells

22 you not to.

23 MR. KUHL: If you remember the answer

24 beyond you don't know that's relevant to answer that,

25 but if you don't know, you don't know.



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1 A. I don't know.

2 Q. (By Mr. Price) All right. Do you know

3 if she was involved with an older man at the time she

4 was threatening to run away to Washington?

5 A. I know she was dating someone, but I

6 can't remember who she was dating at the time.

7 Q. Do you remember if it was somebody who

8 was a classmate or somebody that was not a classmate?

9 A. I don't remember. She dated a lot of

10 different guys at that time period and I don't know.

11 Q. How many different guys did she date?

12 A. During that course of time, I don't

13 know, several, probably three or four.

14 Q. Do you know their names?

15 A. I know she dated a Carson, an Aldo,

16 and there was Julio, but I think Julio was later, but

17 I don't remember.

18 Q. And I think those were names you

19 mentioned before. Were you aware of anybody outside

20 of those three individuals?

21 A. Those are the only three that I can

22 think of.

23 Q. What were the ages of those three

24 individuals if you know?

25 A. I don't know.



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1 Q. Do you know -- and I think I asked

2 this before, were they people in school with her or

3 not in school with her if you know?

4 A. Carson went to a different school, but

5 I don't know which one. Julio did not go to school

6 that I'm aware of. I think Allie told me he dropped

7 out, and I don't know where Aldo went to school, I

8 don't remember.

9 Q. So you don't know if Aldo went to

10 school or not, is that correct?

11 A. Yeah, I don't know.

12 Q. Do you know the last name of any of

13 those individuals?

14 A. Not off the top of my head. I think

15 Julio was Lajano. I don't know how to spell it;

16 L-a-j-a-n-o or something. Carson Cardella maybe, I

17 don't know. He had two different last names. I

18 don't remember what the other one was, and I don't

19 know Aldo's off the top of my head.

20 Q. Okay. Now I think where we left off

21 on the prior deposition, I believe -- I think we left

22 off talking about statements you made about Steve

23 being psychotic and I asked you -- to refresh your

24 memory, I think I said, "Do you believe Steve is

25 psychotic?" You said, "I think he's got some



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1 problems, yes. What do you think he has?" And then

2 that's kind of where we ended. You said that, "He

3 has a problem telling the truth, he lies." And I

4 asked you, "Why do you think he lies?" You said,

5 "Because things he says aren't true to the kids.

6 Like what?" And that's when we stopped.

7 And I read that to you to kind of

8 refresh your memory. Do you recall some of that now?

9 A. Yes.

10 Q. Okay. So picking up where we left

11 off, you said that he had a problem telling the

12 truth, he lies to the kids. How does he lie to the

13 kids?

14 A. Well, he would frequently make up

15 reasons why he was unable to do visitations. He

16 would tell them -- you know, he's told -- I just

17 cannot think of any specific events. You have to

18 give me a second to think.

19 Q. That's fine. And again, if at any

20 point you need to take a break, I realize you're

21 under the weather, just let us know.

22 A. I understand.

23 MR. KUHL: And thank you for that.

24 A. He lied to the kids about -- he lied

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1 about things that happened like in the kids' youth.

2 The kids will tell me stories that aren't true about

3 things that he said that they did. He will make up

4 stories to the kids like he will create a scenario in

5 his mind like -- like try to say he knows something

6 just to try to trick them into saying answers that he

7 wants.

8 Q. (By Mr. Price) Give me an example of

9 that?

10 A. Like, "I heard through the grapevine

11 that -- or somebody I know saw you at a park with a

12 boy. Were you at the park with a boy?" And they

13 would go, "No. Well, somebody saw you there so you

14 must have been there," when the event never happened,

15 and he just tries to trick them. And then when they

16 go, "No, I wasn't there. Oh, okay, that's fine."

17 Q. How do you know. Were you there?

18 A. Yes, I was there.

19 Q. Do you have -- when was this, do you

20 have a date?

21 A. I don't have a date this was one

22 example.

23 Q. So you said he frequently misses his

24 visitations and then lies about it I guess. Are you

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1 A. Yes.

2 Q. Why does -- why is that a problem?

3 A. You were just asking for examples, so

4 I was just giving you some.

5 Q. All right. And did that upset you?

6 A. No. I mean I'd like to be on a

7 schedule, but I mean it didn't upset me.

8 Q. Okay. So why does that in your mind

9 make him psychotic?

10 A. I don't know.

11 Q. Well, your definition, not a doctor's,

12 what is your definition of psychotic when you use the

13 term?

14 A. I don't know because I'm not sure what

15 reference you were using when you say that I said

16 that, so I don't really know how you're using that,

17 what kind of context.

18 Q. Okay. Are you claiming today that you

19 believe Steve is psychotic?

20 A. Like I said before, I think he

21 definitely has some issues.

22 Q. You say he lies. What are the other

23 issues he has?

24 A. Clearly the reason that we're here.

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1 that, the reason that we're here. Have you ever

2 witnessed during your -- how long were you married to

3 Steve?

4 A. 23 years.

5 Q. During those 23 years, did you ever

6 witness any sexual abuse of Steve towards the

7 children, any of the children?

8 A. I answered that question before, but

9 not -- I did not witness it personally.

10 Q. Okay. Can we go off the record for a

11 second?

12 (Off the record.)

13 Q. (By Mr. Price) I think previously in

14 your testimony you said that you never dated Chris

15 Doss, is that correct?

16 A. That's correct.

17 Q. Did you ever go out with Chris Doss

18 anywhere?

19 A. When he very first came back from

20 Afghanistan, the very first time, Chelsea, him, me,

21 Allie, Ashley, went to Applebee's at the mall and all

22 ate together, but that was the only thing we ever did

23 together. And it wasn't a date, it was just we were

24 all hungry and went to Applebee's.

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1 A. I don't remember, probably the girls;

2 probably Allie and Chelsea if I remember right.

3 Q. Okay. And so how about, did Chris

4 have a sister at all -- I mean an ex-wife?

5 A. Yes.

6 Q. What was her name?

7 A. Becky I think.

8 Q. Did you have any contact with Becky?

9 A. Well, like when Allie would go over to

10 their house.

11 Q. And how often do you think you had

12 contact with Becky?

13 A. I don't know.

14 Q. Okay. Was it once, twice, ten times?

15 A. Just depends on how often Allie went

16 over there to her house I guess.

17 Q. When you said you would have contact

18 with her when Allie went over to the house, would you

19 go drop Allie off? How would --

20 A. Sometimes, yes.

21 Q. Okay. Would you go in the house?

22 A. I went in their house a couple times,

23 but it might be more -- when I say contact, more like

24 what time I'm going to pick Allie up or something

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1 Q. Okay, so you had interaction with

2 Rebecca, is that correct?

3 A. Yes.

4 Q. And would you have interaction with

5 Chris Doss during those times too?

6 A. Yes.

7 Q. Same thing, kind of talk to him and

8 stuff about pick-ups, drop-offs, things like that.

9 A. Things like that, yes.

10 Q. Is that because you were taking Allie

11 over there, is that correct?

12 A. Sometimes.

13 Q. And were there times you had contact

14 -- I know you had contact with him at Applebee's.

15 Did you have contact with him at any other time

16 outside just drop-offs and pick-ups?

17 A. No.

18 Q. Now, to the best of your knowledge,

19 did Steve ever have any -- ever go over to Chris

20 Doss's house?

21 A. To my personal knowledge?

22 Q. Yes.

23 A. Well, yes, he did take or pick up

24 Allie from time to time.

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1 A. I don't know.

2 Q. Okay. Do you know any specific dates?

3 A. No.

4 Q. Outside dropping off and picking up

5 Allie, did he ever have any contact with Chris Doss

6 that you're aware of?

7 A. Yes.

8 Q. When was that?

9 A. Probably a little over a year ago, I

10 know he had sent him e-mails or letters of some sort

11 to Chris about what -- what was it about? I don't

12 really remember what it was about, but it was during

13 the time that we were getting the Order of Protection

14 against Chris Doss.

15 Q. So were they friendly letters that

16 you're aware of or were they letters, antagonistic

17 letters, towards Chris Doss if you know?

18 A. I don't remember exactly. I didn't

19 really get to see it.

20 Q. Before that and -- and this was all

21 after the Order of Protection, is that correct?

22 A. Around that time period, yes.

23 Q. Okay. And did -- other than that, did

24 he hang out with Chris Doss? Were they friends or

25 anything like that that you're aware of?



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1 A. I don't know.

2 Q. Okay. To the best of your knowledge,

3 did -- how did you first become aware of Chris Doss?

4 A. Well, Allie was friends with Chelsea.

5 Q. Okay. So contact with Chris Doss was

6 through Chelsea, is that correct?

7 A. What? I'm confused what you're asking

8 me.

9 Q. That's a very good point, I think that

10 question was a little confusing. Let me break it

11 down a little.

12 You didn't initiate or introduce Chris

13 Doss to Allie, is that correct?

14 A. No.

15 Q. And to the best of your knowledge,

16 Steve didn't introduce Chris Doss to Allie, is that

17 correct?

18 A. Not that I'm aware of, no.

19 Q. Okay. Allie would have been

20 introduced to Chris Doss, to the best of your

21 knowledge, through her daughter Chelsea, who was her

22 friend?

23 A. To the best of my knowledge, yes,

24 that's what I think.

25 Q. Another thing we talked about -- did



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1 you report that also Steve had some sort of drug

2 addiction problem?

3 A. No.

4 Q. Okay. So to the best of your

5 knowledge he has no drug addiction issues of which

6 you're aware, correct?

7 A. I'm not aware.

8 Q. Okay. Did you tell Steve that you

9 were afraid -- did you tell DFS that you were afraid

10 of Steve?

11 A. Yes.

12 Q. In what way were -- in what way were

13 you afraid of Steve?

14 A. Steve can give very subtle threats to

15 people, including me.

16 Q. Tell me what the subtle threat was?

17 A. He gets upset, angry. I knew that

18 when -- can you rephrase your question, please?

19 Q. Okay. You said you told DFS that you

20 were afraid of Steve. Why were you afraid of Steve?

21 A. I -- when they were providing the

22 no-contact order, I knew that he would become upset.

23 Q. Okay. Why would Steve becoming upset

24 make you afraid of him?

25 A. Just -- I don't know, I just had that



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1 scary feeling. I don't know if I can describe it. I

2 don't know if I can describe, but I was afraid.

3 Q. Okay. And this -- so you were afraid

4 of Steve because you had a scary feeling after the

5 no-contact order. And do you remember when that was?

6 A. January -- I don't remember the exact

7 date, but right around the 15th.

8 Q. And that's of 2014?

9 A. Correct.

10 Q. Did Steve threaten you in anyway?

11 A. No.

12 Q. Okay. Did Steve ever physically abuse

13 you during your marriage in anyway?

14 A. Yes.

15 Q. When did he physically abuse you?

16 A. I don't know dates or anything like

17 that on this, but it was probably -- probably several

18 years before our divorce, there was a time I was in

19 my laundry room and we were arguing and he got upset

20 with me and I turned around and he kicked me really

21 hard in the buttocks area and it was so hard I fell

22 down.

23 Q. Did you make a police report?

24 A. No, I did not.

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1 A. No, I did not.

2 Q. Did you go to the hospital?

3 A. No, I did not.

4 Q. Did you tell anybody else about this

5 incident?

6 A. Not until later.

7 Q. Not until later. Who did you tell and

8 when did you tell them?

9 A. I don't remember.

10 Q. You said not until later. Let's

11 start, because it's really two questions, when did

12 you tell about it?

13 A. I don't remember when.

14 Q. Okay. Do you remember who you told?

15 A. No.

16 Q. Okay. Is there any other -- and that

17 would have been in 2006 or so, is that correct?

18 A. I don't know, I just know it was

19 several years before our divorce, but I don't know

20 what year.

21 Q. Is there any other incident that you

22 claim he physically abused you during, what was it?

23 You said that you were married 23 years, is that

24 correct?

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1 we were first married, he was walking down the hall

2 and he took a hard object, I don't remember what it

3 was, and he threw it at me and it hit the door and it

4 made a hole in the door. It was kind of a cheap

5 door. It didn't have a lot of wood on it, but...

6 Q. You said that was when you were first

7 married, so would that --

8 A. That would have been when we lived in

9 Raymore; '87 maybe.

10 Q. '87. Did you make a police report?

11 A. No.

12 Q. Did you file for an Order of

13 Protection?

14 A. No.

15 Q. Did you tell anybody about this

16 incident?

17 A. No, not until later.

18 Q. Not until later?

19 A. Correct.

20 Q. Okay. When did you tell somebody

21 about this incident?


23 Q. Who did you tell about this incident?

24 A. I don't remember. Most likely one of

25 my close friends or my sister, but I don't remember



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1 at this time.

2 Q. Any other incidents of physical abuse?

3 A. Those are the only two I remember off

4 the top of my head.

5 Q. Now prior to January 15th when you

6 said you suddenly felt scared, you had had visitation

7 where you would drop the kids off in 2013, is that

8 correct? There was a visitation and a custodial

9 order in place, is that correct, related to your

10 divorce?

11 A. Are you asking me if there was a

12 visitation schedule for the kids for when --

13 Q. In fact, withdraw that question.

14 Were you scared prior to January 15th

15 of Steve Amen?

16 MR. KUHL: I would just ask -- I would

17 object to the form of the question as to scope and

18 time. What window of time are we talking about?

19 January 15th dating back to when?

20 MR. PRICE: I'll adjust the time

21 scope.

22 Q. (By Mr. Price) For the year prior to

23 January 15th of 2014, were you afraid of Steve Amen?

24 A. Yes.

25 Q. Okay. When were you afraid?



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1 A. Are you wanting dates? What are you

2 wanting? Incidents or what are you looking for?

3 Q. Okay. You said that you were afraid.

4 Why were you afraid of Steve Amen for the year before

5 January 15th?

6 A. When you say afraid, can you be more

7 specific?

8 Q. As you define afraid.

9 A. Well, I'm just wondering what you're

10 meaning by afraid. Do you mean afraid for my life,

11 afraid for him yelling at me, afraid for what, what

12 are you referring to?

13 MR. KUHL: I think what he's asking is

14 what does fear mean to you?

15 MR. PRICE: Correct.

16 MR. KUHL: Without testifying for you.

17 A. Can I give a definition of what fear

18 is to me?

19 MR. KUHL: Yes, I think that would be

20 helpful.

21 A. Fear to me would be being afraid of

22 being reprimanded, yelled at, afraid I'm going to get

23 in trouble, afraid that I could be punished in some

24 way by him, that's what fear to me is in relation to

25 Steve.



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1 Q. (By Mr. Price) For the year prior to

2 January 15th, you were divorced correct?

3 A. Are you talking about the year 2013

4 then?

5 Q. Yes.

6 A. Yes.

7 Q. Okay. So he didn't live with you,

8 correct?

9 A. When you said before the year prior to

10 2013, you confused me. You made it sound like that

11 whole entire time before 2014. So if you're just

12 referring to 2013, did he scare me, is that what

13 you're asking?

14 Q. That's what I'm asking.

15 A. Then no.

16 Q. Okay.

17 A. Not that I recall anyway.

18 Q. And thank you for correcting me on

19 that.

20 A. That's okay.

21 Q. I believe you brought a calendar, is

22 that correct?

23 A. Yes.

24 Q. And could I have you -- could we --

25 could you identify that for the record. Do you have



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1 a document with you, is that the calendar?

2 A. Yes.

3 Q. When was this calendar prepared?

4 MR. KUHL: Just to clarify, the top

5 portion of it does have an internal office

6 memorandum, but the contents of it are what Ms. Amen

7 provided and you can tell by the changing of the

8 font.

9 MR. PRICE: Well, I think what I'm

10 trying to do is establish --

11 MR. KUHL: I understand.

12 MR. PRICE: -- for foundation purposes

13 when this was actually prepared by Ms. Amen.

14 Q. (By Mr. Price) So Ms. Amen, yes,

15 looking at what's been marked, I know it's marked

16 memo, so I know you didn't do that, there's a number

17 -- this document that's been given to us has a number

18 of entries, correct, and it goes through, I think it

19 starts with 2012 and it's got --

20 A. Goes to current.

21 Q. It goes to current and it has dates

22 and years and it has specific dates like November,

23 you know, November 29th to November 1st, and it has

24 the comment, "My weekend," that appears in 2013. So

25 it's got comments and it's got dates and different



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1 things.

2 A. Correct.

3 Q. Okay. And it starts with 2012, okay.

4 Is this a document, starting with 2012 on, is this a

5 document you prepared?

6 A. Yes.

7 Q. Okay. When did you prepare this

8 document?

9 A. Well, it was ongoing since these dates

10 were written, but I put it in this format

11 approximately a week or two ago or a couple weeks

12 ago.

13 Q. Okay. So what you're saying is this

14 is a compilation of information that you put into

15 this format from another document?

16 A. Just from my calendar, yes.

17 Q. And that calendar is -- what's that?

18 Can you describe to me what that calendar is?

19 A. Just a calendar I write notes on.

20 Q. Okay. And so you have the originals

21 of the documents that you used to create this

22 document?

23 A. Yeah.

24 Q. Okay. And those documents have dates,

25 is that correct, written down?



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1 A. Just a calendar.

2 Q. Okay. And so like you'll make a note

3 inside a box, like we may see a date and you make a

4 note inside it, is that correct?

5 A. Right.

6 Q. And then you took that and you

7 summarized it and created this?

8 A. Correct.

9 Q. So you have the originals of the

10 documents which would be the calendars which were

11 used to create this document, is that right?

12 A. That's right.

13 Q. Now on the originals when you would

14 write like "My weekend," or "Didn't take kids," or

15 "Dropped kids off at 7:00 o'clock," or whatever it

16 is, when were those entries made? Were they made at

17 or near the time?

18 A. Near the time of the event, yes.

19 Q. Okay. So if I see a date of like July

20 30th, 2012, that would have been an entry you made on

21 your calendar?

22 A. Around that time.

23 Q. Around that time; maybe not on that

24 date, but right around that time?

25 A. Correct. However, I'm going to tell



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1 you there are some dates that maybe are missing that

2 I didn't keep notes on for some reason, I either

3 didn't write something down. So if there are missing

4 dates, it's not because of any other reason other

5 than I just didn't write notes down, and I couldn't

6 remember when I went back to write the notes down.

7 There was several time periods like that. So if you

8 see that, it's not because of any other reason other

9 than I did not write anything in my original book

10 about what went on that day, so.

11 Q. Okay. And I want to make sure and

12 clarify that because that's an important point. So

13 if there was a date that something occurred I want to

14 make sure I understand. But if it wasn't written on

15 your calendar, then when you put it here, there's

16 nothing here?

17 A. Right, correct.

18 Q. So you didn't like have a date that

19 something occurred and then when you created this,

20 you filled in the information?

21 A. Correct, no. I just -- I just put

22 exactly what was in my book because I just like to

23 keep track of -- I don't even know why, I always kept

24 track of when they're gone. If anything happened in

25 particular, I would just kind of write it down and I



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1 really had no reason in doing it other than I just --

2 Q. All right. And that's why I wanted to

3 clarify that. Okay. So this is only what was on the

4 calendar and nothing else?

5 A. Correct.

6 Q. Other than what Abe put at the top?

7 A. Yeah.

8 Q. Okay. If you can, I'd like the

9 calendar marked as exhibit -- I can't remember what

10 we had two of them marked last time?

11 (Amen Exhibit A was marked for

12 identification.)

13 Q. (By Mr. Price) I'm going to hand you

14 Exhibit A, which is the document that you just talked

15 about, which is a compilation or summary of original

16 inscriptions on original calendars, which you have.

17 This is the summary form of that.

18 If you can turn to October 25th

19 through 27th of 2013.

20 A. Okay.

21 Q. It says it was his weekend. When

22 would his weekend start?

23 A. Weekends were divided on --

24 approximately they started Friday evenings at six or

25 6:30. I can't remember now.



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1 Q. Okay. On that date that was his

2 weekend, he would have gotten the kids at six, but

3 you dropped off Taylor early in the morning in order

4 to go to the hospital with Kristi that day?

5 A. Yeah. Like I said, there's some

6 things I just didn't write down, I didn't find

7 necessary to remember, so I don't know what happened

8 that day other than what I have written down here.

9 Q. Do you recall dropping Taylor off that

10 day to go to the hospital with Kristi at 9:40 in the

11 morning?

12 A. What was the purpose of me dropping

13 her off?

14 Q. It would have been a hospital visit.

15 A. For what?

16 Q. Because she was pregnant at that time?

17 Would it have been for Taylor to go with her and see

18 the sonogram?

19 A. Yeah, that very well could have been.

20 I'm not telling you it was for sure on that date, but

21 if she had a doctor's visit that date for that, then

22 I mean -- I do remember there was a time that I did

23 take Taylor for the first visit or something.

24 Q. All right. And if that doctor's visit

25 was in the morning, then that's when she would have



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1 been dropped off?

2 A. I don't remember when it was.

3 Q. Okay. But it would have been time

4 consistent with the doctor's visit, correct?

5 A. I just remember I picked her up at her

6 house for a doctor's visit, that's all I know.

7 Q. And on November 29th through December

8 1st, 2013, which I think is on the next page, that

9 was your weekend, correct, it's labeled "My weekend?"

10 A. The 29th through December 1?

11 Q. Correct.

12 A. Yes.

13 Q. So do you recall dropping Taylor --

14 that was not Steve's visitation weekend, correct,

15 because it says, "My weekend?"

16 A. Correct.

17 Q. Do you recall dropping Taylor off

18 about 10:00 o'clock at night so she could go to the

19 movie "The Hunger Games" with Steve and his family?

20 A. I didn't document that, so I don't

21 know. I don't remember that.

22 Q. Do you recall Taylor coming home at 1

23 a.m. that morning from the movie?


25 Q. Do you remember her going to the



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1 movies "The Hunger Games" with them and coming in

2 late one week?

3 A. I don't remember that.

4 Q. Now November 28th, Thursday,

5 Thanksgiving Day, "Steve took kids four to six, drove

6 and played basketball." That's what is listed here,

7 do you see that?

8 A. Yes, I do.

9 Q. Okay. Was that a time that you gave

10 Steve additional time with the children?

11 A. That was just time that he asked for.

12 Q. Okay. But that wasn't his visitation

13 time, was it?

14 A. I don't remember. I don't -- I don't

15 know. I don't have that information in front of me

16 what was scheduled. I just wrote when they were

17 gone, but I don't remember what the visitation time

18 period was for that week as far as who got what.

19 We sometimes were -- tried to be a

20 little bit flexible on holidays like that if

21 possible, you know, so sometimes the way it's written

22 doesn't always work. This is when he had the kids.

23 Q. Okay. So if he said, "Hey, I want to

24 take the kids and play basketball," even if it wasn't

25 his day, you would let him do that?



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1 A. That didn't happen, but -- I'm just

2 talking about this that you're talking about here as

3 far as Thanksgiving Day, that's all I know because

4 that's what I wrote down, he had them from four to

5 six. I remember the kids saying they just drove

6 around and played basketball.

7 Q. Do you know what the normal visitation

8 schedule is for Thanksgiving Day?

9 A. Do you have that? I don't remember.

10 I have to look it up. Every year I have to pull out

11 my papers.

12 Q. But it's, to the best of your

13 knowledge, it's just not a two-hour time span, is it?

14 A. Correct.

15 Q. So would this appear to be additional

16 time that Steve got?

17 A. I don't know.

18 Q. Okay. Then if we go to Christmas Day.

19 "Kids with him, 11:30 a.m. to six p.m." That's on the

20 next page. It says 2013-2014.

21 Again, that was -- do you know if that

22 was his visitation or your visitation?

23 A. Again, I don't have the visitation

24 schedule memorized. Like I said, I have to look at

25 it every year, I have to pull out my papers. I don't



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1 have that information memorized, so I don't know.

2 Q. Do you know what normal Christmas

3 visitation is?

4 A. I could kind of a rough it, but I

5 don't know for sure exactly. I just know that it's

6 Christmas Eve -- it's like Christmas Eve Day until

7 that evening and then it switches -- I just don't

8 remember, it's kind of weird. Without looking at it,

9 I don't remember what the normal schedule is. It's

10 in my divorce papers.

11 Q. Does this look like normal

12 visitation --

13 A. Well --

14 Q. -- if you know?

15 A. I don't know.

16 Q. Is it fair to say that you tried to

17 facilitate visitation between the kids and Steve?

18 A. Facilitate meaning cooperate or what?

19 Q. Cooperate, yes.

20 A. I did.

21 Q. Did you allow for visitation outside

22 the normal visitation guidelines?

23 A. Infrequently there was a few times

24 that I did, yes.

25 Q. So if you said that the only time you



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1 gave Steve visitation with the kids was because it

2 was Court ordered, that's not true, is it?

3 A. I don't know what you're asking.

4 Q. You gave Steve -- well, you gave Steve

5 visitation with the kids that was outside the Court

6 ordered visitation times, correct?

7 A. I still don't understand what you're

8 asking, I'm sorry.

9 Q. I'll withdraw the question. I think

10 she already answered it. If you need to take a break

11 or drink of water, just let me know.

12 During the Chris Doss investigation,

13 did you request the assistance of BACA, B-A-C-A?

14 A. Yes.

15 Q. Who is that?

16 A. Who is BACA?

17 Q. Yes.

18 A. You mean --

19 Q. Yes, is that Bikers Against Child

20 Abuse?

21 A. Yes.

22 Q. And you requested that in 2012, is

23 that correct, or during the time the incident with

24 Chris Doss?

25 A. Correct.



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1 Q. Have you enlisted their help now with

2 Steve?

3 A. Well --

4 Q. Just yes or no.

5 A. Yes, I mean they're always there.

6 Q. When did you contact BACA regarding to

7 help you with Steve Amen?

8 A. Well, they just stay in constant

9 contact all the time, so they're calling me or

10 messaging Allie before she was admitted and calling

11 and messaging me and seeing how things are going.

12 Q. When was the last time they did that

13 if you know?

14 A. I spoke with them today.

15 Q. Okay. Let's talk about bruising on

16 Allison. You said that you talked to DFS on January

17 9th of 2014, a report of coming home with marks; was

18 with her dad since spring of 2013. In 2013 in the

19 spring, didn't Steve suggest cancelling visitation?

20 A. I do not know.

21 Q. Did he send you an e-mail to that

22 regard?

23 A. Okay.

24 Q. On or about March 18th, do you recall

25 that?



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1 A. On March 18th?

2 Q. That's correct, of 2013. Would it

3 help you if I showed you an e-mail?

4 A. Sure.

5 Q. Can I have it marked as Exhibit B?

6 (Amen Exhibit B was marked for

7 identification.)

8 Q. (By Mr. Price) Is that your e-mail

9 address?

10 A. Can I read this first?

11 Q. Yes.

12 MR. PRICE: You can make note that

13 Ms. Amen is reviewing Exhibit B, which is an e-mail

14 marked March 18th of 2013.

15 A. I'm going to have to -- I'm sorry, I'm

16 having a hard time comprehending with my medications,

17 so it's going to take me a second to read this.

18 Q. (By Mr. Price) That's fine. There's

19 no hurry.

20 A. Okay. I read it.

21 Q. There's an e-mail address on there.

22 Can you tell me what that e-mail address is?

23 A. Do you want me to read the e-mail

24 address?

25 Q. Yes.



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1 A. It's [email protected].

2 Q. Is that your e-mail address?

3 A. Yes, it is.

4 Q. Okay. And is there an e-mail address

5 that you recognize as being Steve Amen's e-mail

6 address?

7 A. Yes.

8 Q. What's that address?

9 A. [email protected].

10 Q. Okay. And do you recognize that being

11 his address, correct?

12 A. Yes.

13 Q. Okay. Do you recall this e-mail --

14 you've had a chance to look at that e-mail, is that

15 correct?

16 A. You mean just now?

17 Q. Yes.

18 A. Yes.

19 Q. Do you recall this e-mail exchange?

20 A. Yes. After reading it, yes.

21 Q. Okay. And was this because Steve had

22 said that he didn't want to have visitation with the

23 kids?

24 A. I don't know what started it.

25 Q. Okay. Do you recall Steve telling you



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1 he wanted to cancel visitation in the spring?

2 A. I do not. I don't know. I don't

3 remember. Did I write that down? I really don't

4 remember the conversation about it.

5 Q. Okay. Let me then -- do you remember

6 bringing Panera lunch over to the house?

7 A. Yes, I do.

8 Q. And was that -- what was that related

9 -- why did you do that?

10 A. I don't remember what the reason, but

11 I remember Allie got extremely upset, and it might

12 have been about visitation now that we're talking

13 about it, but she got very upset because she thought

14 her dad was mad at her. And I found her crying in

15 her room, curled up in a corner crying like crazy

16 thinking her dad was mad at her. So Allie was

17 explaining to me that she was so sorry, she felt bad

18 and she wanted to do something nice for her dad and I

19 asked her what she wanted to do and she said she

20 wanted to go bring him lunch and surprise him and I

21 said okay.

22 So we went to Panera, got some lunch

23 and took it downtown to the federal building. She

24 said that he didn't seem very open or happy about the

25 lunch, but she dropped it off and she came out to the



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1 car and we went home.

2 Q. Okay. And did you have -- was there

3 -- did you see any bruising or notice any bruising?

4 A. No.

5 Q. When's the first time you remember

6 what you claim are unexplained marks on Allie after

7 visitation with Steve? Let me withdraw that question

8 and try to ask a better question.

9 A. Okay.

10 Q. If you had noticed bruising on Allie,

11 would you have notated it on your calendar?

12 A. I didn't each and every time, no, but

13 I did some of the times.

14 Q. And why would you not notate it --

15 okay. What made it important enough that you notated

16 it on the calendar? Why would you notate it

17 sometimes?

18 A. I don't know. Just sometimes she had

19 a reasonable explanation, and at first I didn't think

20 it was that big of deal because things happen, but

21 when it became more regular, I just started trying to

22 keep more track of it.

23 Q. Okay. So at what point did you try to

24 keep more track of it?

25 A. You can look at my list, but I don't



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1 know. I guess --

2 Q. That's why I'm --

3 A. -- probably 2013 sometime or

4 October-ish.

5 Q. I think I see April 16, 17, "Found

6 bruise on Allie's face. She said her niece dropped a

7 Barbie car on her head."

8 A. That was in April you said?

9 Q. Yes.

10 A. There are earlier ones on the list.

11 However, probably when I started being a little bit

12 more consistent on writing it down, would have been

13 around the time that you just mentioned in April

14 regarding the Barbie car.

15 Q. Okay. Now was that something -- was

16 her niece -- was Tuesday night -- it looks like

17 Wednesday night was his visitation time, is that

18 correct?

19 A. Correct.

20 Q. That would have been 6:00 to 8:30, is

21 that correct?

22 A. Something like that, yes.

23 Q. And it says, "Niece dropped Barbie car

24 on head, accident." Where did you get that

25 information?



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1 A. Allie, that's what she told me.

2 Q. Okay. Was that something notated

3 before she went on visitation or after visitation?

4 A. I'm sorry, what?

5 Q. Was that something that -- the fact

6 that she had a cut, a bruise or cut on her face, was

7 that something you noticed before visitation with

8 Steve or after visitation with Steve?

9 A. I don't remember; just whatever day it

10 was I wrote that down was the day I noticed it.

11 Q. Okay. So you could have been notating

12 a bruise that she had before she went to visitation,

13 is that correct?

14 A. I don't know.

15 Q. Okay. And that's why I'm saying it's

16 possible, you don't know?

17 A. I don't know.

18 Q. Okay. Sunday, April 26th, you say,

19 "His weekend." You say, "I found bruises on Allie's

20 upper arm and biceps area, picture." What's the pic

21 mean, do you have a picture of that?

22 A. I might, I don't know. I would have

23 to look through. I'm not sure if I do or not.

24 Q. Can you get that for us if you have

25 it?



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1 A. If I have it I can send it to Abe.

2 Q. Okay. Can you get it to your attorney

3 then?

4 A. If I have it, yes.

5 MR. KUHL: I will forward it when I

6 receive it.

7 Q. (By Mr. Price) Can you describe what

8 the bruises looked like?

9 A. Can you give me the date again where

10 you're looking?

11 Q. It's under 2013, and it says, "April

12 26th through 28th, his weekend. Taylor and Allie

13 drop off 6 p.m. Saturday. Ashley and Chase prom at

14 Crown Center, went early for pictures. Let her spend

15 night at Braxton's, Allie wanted to come home. I

16 picked up Allie 9:00 p.m."

17 A. I can only guess really. I don't

18 remember exactly what they looked like exactly, but

19 as it says here, "Upper arm biceps area," so I'm

20 thinking it would be something here (indicating). I

21 mean I don't know exactly what it looked like.

22 Q. Okay. Did you take her to the

23 hospital?

24 A. No.

25 Q. Did you make a police report?



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1 A. No.

2 Q. Was there anything -- other than you

3 noted the fact there was a bruise, was there anything

4 else unusual about it?

5 A. No, not that I wrote down.

6 Q. Friday, May 3rd through 5th you say,

7 "My weekend," correct.

8 A. Yes.

9 Q. Okay. "May 2nd, Steve took Allie to

10 dentist for extraction. Allie fainted at mom's, home

11 later that evening, after shower." Does that mean

12 she fainted at your house?

13 A. I don't know where you're looking.

14 Q. If you go down to May 2nd, Thursday.

15 A. It says, "At mom's," so it must have

16 been at my mom's house.

17 Q. So she would have fainted in the

18 shower?

19 A. No, she wasn't at the shower at mom's,

20 but at my house. It looks like I wrote down that

21 there's two different times that she fainted.

22 Q. Okay. All right. And when were

23 those? She fainted at mom's, which you said is your

24 mom, correct?

25 A. Yes.



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1 Q. And then when was the other time she

2 fainted?

3 A. Later that evening while she was --

4 after she took a shower and went upstairs to her

5 room.

6 Q. Okay. And do you know if she hit her

7 head during either one of those incidents?

8 A. She claims she hit her head. I did

9 not see it happen, but I saw a bruise on her head.

10 Q. Okay. And then on Friday, the day

11 after the fainting incident, she had a large bump or

12 bruise on her forehead, is that correct?

13 A. Say that one more time.

14 Q. If you go down to May 3rd through 5th,

15 it says, "My weekend, Allie had a large bump/bruise

16 on her forehead." That would have been the day after

17 she fainted, correct?

18 A. Correct.

19 Q. Okay. She confirmed that she had

20 fainted and bumped her head, is that correct? You

21 also say there were more bruises on her forearm. You

22 say you have pictures. It says, "Pics." Do you have

23 pictures of those?

24 A. Yes, I do have that.

25 Q. Can you get those to Abe also?



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1 A. Yes.

2 Q. Did she tell you what had happened to

3 her arm?

4 A. She said she didn't know.

5 Q. Okay. Again, this would have been

6 after the fainting incident, correct?

7 A. Correct.

8 Q. Okay.

9 A. Can I take a break and use the

10 restroom?

11 Q. Sure, yes.

12 (Recess.)

13 Q. (By Mr. Price) If you go to where we

14 were at, if you go to the next page, May 17th through

15 19th, "My weekend," it says, "Allie back to my house

16 with Brittany. Found bruises on both legs and arms.

17 Allie said she didn't know what happened." Is that

18 correct?

19 A. Yes. I have that written down, yes.

20 Q. That was your weekend of visitation,

21 is that correct?

22 A. Yes.

23 Q. Again, that was not his visitation

24 weekend, correct?

25 A. Correct.



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1 Q. Okay. June 10th you said you found

2 bruising on her right arm. That was after one of his

3 weekends, is that correct?

4 A. I'm sorry June 10th? Okay, yes.

5 Q. Did she tell you how that had

6 happened?


8 Q. Okay. Did you take any pictures of

9 it?

10 A. No.

11 Q. Okay. Didn't take her to the hospital

12 or no police report, correct?

13 A. Correct.

14 Q. June 21st, said she had a bruise on

15 her right elbow after his weekend with scratch marks

16 and bruise on forearm and she had an itchy rash. Did

17 you take any picture of that?

18 A. No.

19 Q. If it doesn't say picture, do you have

20 pictures of any of these?

21 A. No.

22 Q. Okay. If you do have any pictures,

23 can you give them to Abe to give to me?

24 A. Yes.

25 Q. October 9th, "Found weird carpet burn



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1 and bruise on her right arm and wrist." That was

2 before his weekend, correct? In fact, his weekend

3 wasn't until October 11th through 13th, correct?

4 A. What day are you --

5 Q. 2013, it says October 9th.

6 A. Okay.

7 Q. It says, "Found weird carpet burn and

8 bruise on right arm on the wrist."

9 A. Okay.

10 Q. She had not seen Steve since the 27th

11 through the 29th, is that correct?

12 A. It's a Wednesday, so I'm pretty sure

13 she had -- he had visitation that night.

14 Q. It doesn't say he had visitation,

15 correct?

16 A. But I didn't always write it down, but

17 I'm pretty sure I remember that day that he did have

18 visitation that day.

19 Q. And you're saying she came back with a

20 bruise on her right arm, a carpet burn, after having

21 visitation with him that night?

22 A. Correct.

23 Q. Did you ask her what happened?

24 A. Yes.

25 Q. What did she tell you?



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1 A. I don't remember. She either said I

2 don't know. She said I don't know a lot. I don't

3 remember -- unless I'm getting confused with a couple

4 different ones because there were a couple with a

5 burn. I don't remember this particular one actually.

6 Q. Okay. So you don't actually remember?

7 A. I don't remember this one.

8 Q. October 1st, while you were taking

9 Taylor, she fell down the stairs and bruised her ribs

10 and face. Was that Taylor or Allie?

11 A. It was Allie that -- she - I did not

12 see it happen. I was away from home because Taylor

13 had cross country really early in the morning before

14 Allie got on the bus. And so after I dropped off

15 Taylor to come home, Allie called me and said, "Oh,

16 by the way, Mom, I fell down the stairs. I hurt my

17 face and ribs and I just want you to know," and I'm

18 like, "Oh, my gosh, are you okay?" She said that she

19 was okay and she was going to go ahead and go to

20 school. I said -- asked her if she was sure she

21 wanted to go to school. I told her I wanted to look

22 at it, but she said that she was fine to go to

23 school. And then she did get it looked at at the

24 nurses.

25 Q. And, again, this has nothing to do



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1 with any visitation with Steve on that, correct?

2 A. It was just -- that happened on the

3 21st.

4 MR. BARRY: I'm going to object for

5 the record. It's calling for the witness to

6 speculate on how long bruises last, when they were

7 inflicted. It's also calling for her to speculate

8 that there was no other contact with Steve during

9 that time outside of the scheduled visits.

10 Q. (By Mr. Price) Okay. Had she had any

11 contact with Steve that you're aware of during that

12 time?

13 A. Just what I have written here.

14 Q. Okay. And then if there's nothing

15 noted, then you didn't notice any injuries after

16 certain weekends, is that correct?

17 A. I either didn't note it -- yes,

18 correct, but most likely that's exactly right.

19 Q. Okay. Let's -- so if we see Sunday,

20 January 10th through 12th, you wrote this down during

21 January 10th through 12th, which was your weekend,

22 correct?

23 A. I don't know where you're at.

24 Q. Okay. If you go to January 10th

25 through 12th later in your calendar because



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2 MR. KUHL: It's on page 18.

3 Q. (By Mr. Price) It's after 2014.

4 A. Okay.

5 Q. It says that was your weekend,

6 correct?

7 A. Correct.

8 Q. Okay. Does Allie have a car?

9 A. No.

10 Q. All right. So does Allie -- okay.

11 She doesn't own a car, does she drive a car?

12 A. She has a permit.

13 Q. She has a permit, okay. So she

14 wouldn't be able to drive somewhere on her own, is

15 that correct, without I guess breaking the law?

16 A. Right. I mean she could, but she

17 didn't.

18 Q. Okay. And on the night of Friday --

19 on Saturday or on Friday night, was your car missing


21 A. No.

22 Q. On Saturday night was your car missing


24 A. No.

25 Q. Did you see any car come and pick her



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1 up on Friday night?

2 A. No.

3 Q. Did you see any car come and pick her

4 up on Saturday night?

5 A. I just remember looking through the

6 security cameras and there was a car, but you

7 couldn't see the car, you could only see the

8 headlights of the car, and I couldn't see what car it

9 was, but there was a car around. I think I wrote

10 this down and I was trying to look for it.

11 Q. So you have a security camera at your

12 house?

13 A. Yes.

14 Q. Do you have the tape from this night?

15 A. No, it doesn't stay on.

16 Q. Okay. So you checked the security

17 camera and did it -- what time did it show the car

18 coming up, do you know?

19 A. I was hoping I wrote it down here, but

20 it seems like it was -- it seems like -- I mean I

21 hate to say it, but I hate to guess, so I don't know

22 exactly. I don't remember. It might have been

23 around three-ish in the morning.

24 Q. Around three a.m.?

25 A. Possibly I'm guessing.



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1 Q. Okay. You said you could tell -- you

2 could tell headlights. Could you tell the color of

3 the car?

4 A. No. You couldn't even see the car.

5 There was just a car turning around in the cul-de-sac

6 around that time, but I have no idea about anything

7 else.

8 Q. Okay. Did you -- could you see her

9 getting in that car?

10 A. Well, I didn't see the car, so I

11 wouldn't see her getting in a car.

12 Q. Okay. I guess what I'm trying to ask

13 is, is that the car she claimed to have gotten into

14 or do you even know that?

15 A. I don't know.

16 Q. Or it could have been just a car

17 driving around the cul-de-sac?

18 A. It could have been. That's the only

19 thing I noticed in the surveillance.

20 Q. Did she leave Sunday night that you're

21 aware of?

22 A. No.

23 Q. Okay. That's when this burn showed up

24 was Saturday, correct?

25 A. If that's what it says on here, if



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1 that was it, yes.

2 Q. It says, "Sunday I talked more about

3 the mark," so I would assume -- and up here on

4 Saturday it says you talked about the mark; Sunday it

5 says you talked more about the mark, so that would

6 have been when this mark occurred, and I don't see

7 anything prior to that.

8 MR. BARRY: Just for clarification,

9 instead of saying the mark happening, you probably

10 need to differentiate whether it was first observed

11 by the mother then because I do not think the

12 question you're asking is worded quite properly.

13 MR. PRICE: I think you're right.

14 Q. (By Mr. Price) Prior to Saturday

15 night, had you observed what looked like a burn mark

16 on her head? "Pulled her hair back and showed me a

17 huge mark," or whatever this mark was. The huge mark

18 on her head was Saturday night the first night you

19 observed it?

20 A. Correct.

21 Q. Okay. And then the next day was when

22 you observed it as being what you thought was a burn.

23 And, again, that was the first time you -- you first

24 observed it Saturday night and you first observed it

25 as being a burn Sunday, is that correct, what you



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1 thought was a burn?

2 A. I'm sorry, I'm not following you.

3 Q. I'll withdraw that.

4 A. Okay.

5 Q. You observed it again on Sunday,

6 correct?

7 A. Correct.

8 Q. And after looking on Sunday you

9 thought it was a burn, correct?

10 A. Yes. I said it looks like a burn.

11 Q. Okay. And she said she --

12 A. She said that it was a burn.

13 Q. Right. Again, you had not observed

14 that mark before Saturday night, correct?

15 A. Correct.

16 Q. Okay. Did you send e-mails to Steve

17 in 2013 indicating that Kristi wasn't allowed to be

18 around them during visitation?

19 A. Possibly.

20 Q. Okay. Do you recall an SST meeting

21 earlier this year where you were asked whether Allie

22 had drug use or a drug problem?

23 A. Yes.

24 Q. And wasn't it true that you denied

25 that she had drug use or a drug problem?



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1 A. No.

2 Q. You told them that she had used?

3 A. Are you referring to the meeting that

4 we -- you weren't there, were you?

5 Q. I don't think so.

6 A. It was the one before that, the first

7 one?

8 Q. Right.

9 A. Is that what you're referring to?

10 Q. Yes.

11 A. No, I never said she didn't have a

12 drug problem.

13 Q. Okay. Because you found marijuana --

14 A. Yeah.

15 Q. -- and the other synthetic pump stuff?

16 A. "Pump It."

17 Q. Yes, "Pump It," in her room?

18 A. Correct.

19 Q. Do you know if Julio and Aldo gave

20 Allie drugs?

21 A. I don't know for sure.

22 Q. Do you suspect?

23 A. Probably.

24 Q. Did you report -- did you tell DFS

25 about that?



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1 A. I did not suspect at that time. I did

2 not know where it was coming from.

3 Q. When did you first suspect that?

4 A. I don't know.

5 Q. Okay. In 2008 did you tell Steve --

6 did you ask Steve to leave the family residence?

7 A. I don't know.

8 Q. Did you ever make a threat to him

9 during that time period that unless -- this would

10 have been during the time when you were going through

11 your divorce, but before your divorce was final, do

12 you recall telling him that you would fake a bruise

13 or welt on your body and call the police if he didn't

14 leave?

15 MR. KUHL: I object to relevance.

16 MR. PRICE: Again, he can lay an

17 objection, but you can go ahead and answer.

18 A. No, I never said that.

19 Q. (By Mr. Price) That's for the Judge

20 to rule on later.

21 Did you ever physically abuse Steve?

22 A. No.

23 Q. Did you ever hit Steve?

24 A. No.

25 Q. Did you ever throw anything at Steve?



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1 A. Not that I remember.

2 Q. Did you ever bump him in the hallway?

3 A. Bump him in the hallway?

4 Q. I'll withdraw that question. Have you

5 ever made any threat to allege a fake assault by

6 Steve against you at anytime?

7 A. Allege a fake assault?

8 Q. Yes. Have you ever said, "Hey, I'm

9 going to say you assaulted me if you don't do this or

10 you don't do that?"

11 A. No.

12 Q. Getting back to one other incident

13 which I think we discussed before, I think you said

14 that you tried to commit or threatened -- actually,

15 tried to commit suicide in front of the kids by

16 taking pills?

17 MR. BARRY: I object because that did

18 mischaracterize what she said.

19 MR. PRICE: Okay. If you want to

20 characterize what she said, I'm fine.

21 MR. BARRY: She didn't do it in front

22 of the kids.

23 MR. PRICE: All right.

24 MR. BARRY: Why don't you read what

25 she said?



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1 Q. (By Mr. Price) And I stand corrected

2 on that. I think you said that you threatened

3 suicide -- I think your response was you didn't know

4 where the kids were when this occurred?

5 A. They were not in the room with me.

6 Q. Okay. Did you ever threaten to stab

7 yourself in the heart?

8 A. No.

9 Q. Did Allison ever in October of 2013

10 try to fake a black eye when she knew BACA was coming

11 over to your home?

12 A. Can you give me a date and say that

13 one more time?

14 Q. In October of 2013, did Allison try to

15 fake a black eye when she knew Bikers Against Child

16 Abuse were coming over to your house?


18 Q. Was there any incident where she tried

19 to fake a black eye that you're aware of during that

20 time period?

21 A. I think we mentioned before there was

22 a time she faked some bruises. I don't remember it

23 being a black eye, but it could have been. I just

24 don't remember.

25 Q. There was a time when she actually



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1 faked a bruise on her arm and that was determined at

2 the hospital?

3 A. Right, correct.

4 Q. And did she injure her wrist when she

5 visited Utah in November of 2013?

6 A. Yes.

7 Q. Okay. And what injury was that?

8 A. Just a sprain.

9 Q. How did she get hurt?

10 A. They were sledding in the mountains

11 and she just kind of rolled off the sled and sprained

12 it a little bit. It wasn't anything serious, but I

13 did take her to the doctor when she got back.

14 MR. PRICE: Can we go off the record?

15 I want to go talk to my client for one second?

16 (Off the record.)

17 Q. (By Mr. Price) I think you said on or

18 about January 15th, you were scared, you just had a

19 scared feeling of Steve. Didn't you call him about

20 midnight January 16th?

21 A. Are you talking about 2014?

22 Q. Yes. Thank you for correcting me. I

23 think you said January 15th, 2014, you just had a

24 general scared feeling about him. But didn't you

25 then turn around and call him on January 16th at



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1 about midnight on his cell phone the very next day?

2 A. I'm confused. Can you help me again

3 with those dates? Is this a weekend?

4 Q. I think. I'm just going by your

5 testimony. You said on January 15th you kind of felt

6 scared, generally scared, just a scared feeling. And

7 then I'm asking you -- I guess I'm asking a leading

8 question; is it true that after the 15th you called

9 him on the 16th?

10 A. Are you asking me a question?

11 Q. Yes. The 15th would have been

12 Wednesday.

13 A. Okay.

14 Q. Isn't it true you called him and

15 called Kristi's cell phone several times on January

16 16th? This is after you said you were scared.

17 A. Okay.

18 Q. Do you have any reason to dispute that

19 if I told you that we got --

20 A. I'm sure there was a reason why I was

21 calling.

22 Q. Okay. So even though you were scared,

23 you weren't so scared that you couldn't call and talk

24 to him, correct?

25 A. Yes.



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1 Q. Okay. That's it, I don't have any

2 other questions.

3 MR. BARRY: I have no questions.

4 MR. KUHL: I have no questions.

5 MS. VUJNICH: No questions.

6 MR. KUHL: I don't think anyone has

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8 (WHEREIN, the deposition was concluded

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1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

2 STATE OF MISSOURI ) ) ss.

3 CITY OF LEE'S SUMMIT )

4 I, Mary Lynn Cushing, a Certified

5 Court Reporter (MO), do hereby certify that the

6 witness whose testimony appears in the foregoing

7 deposition was duly sworn by me; that the testimony

8 of said witness was taken by me to the best of my

9 ability and thereafter reduced to typewriting under

10 my direction; that I am neither counsel for, related

11 to, nor employed by any of the parties to the action

12 in which this deposition was taken, and further that

13 I am not a relative or employee of any attorney or

14 counsel employed by the parties thereto, nor

15 financially or otherwise interested in the outcome of

16 the action.

17

18 ____________________________

19 Mary Lynn Cushing, CCR #1077

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1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF JACKSON COUNTY, MISSOURI FAMILY COURT DIVISION




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11 CERTIFICATE OF OFFICER AND

12 STATEMENT OF DEPOSITION CHARGES (Rule 57.03 (g) (2) (a) & Sec., 492.590 RsMO 1985.)

13 DEPOSITION OF LISA B. AMEN

14 TAKEN ON BEHALF OF THE GUARDIAN AD LITEMS MAY 21ST, 2014

15 Name and address of person or firm having custody of

16 the original transcript:

17 TAXED IN FAVOR OF: SHOOK, HARDY & BACON TOTAL................ $

18

19 Upon delivery of transcript, the above charges had not yet been paid. It is required that all charges

20 will be paid in the normal course of business.

21 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and

22 seal on this:

23

24 __________________________ Notary Public

25

In The Interest of Allison Sue Amen, et al. Lisa B. Amen - Vol. Vol. IIMay 21, 2014

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dad (4) 195:18;198:14,16, 18date (15) 167:11;170:20,21; 172:23;178:7;186:3, 19,24;187:13,18; 189:1,20,21;202:9; 218:12dated (3) 167:9,15;172:14dates (16) 161:11,12;162:1, 14,18;175:2;178:16; 182:1;184:21,22,25; 185:9,24;187:1,4; 220:3dating (4) 163:20;167:5,6; 181:19daughter (2) 166:14;176:21day (19) 187:10;189:4,8,10; 191:5,25;192:3,8,18; 193:6;201:9,10; 204:10,16;207:4,17, 18;213:21;220:1deal (1) 199:20dealing (1) 165:7debate (1) 164:6December (2) 190:7,10define (1) 182:8definitely (1) 171:21definition (3) 171:11,12;182:17denied (1) 214:24dentist (1) 203:10depends (1) 173:15depo (1) 161:24deposes (1) 158:11deposition (8) 158:3,12,19,24; 160:18;166:16; 168:21;221:8describe (4) 178:1,2;185:18; 202:7

detail (1) 166:5determined (1) 219:1DFS (4) 177:9,19;195:16; 215:24different (7) 167:10,11;168:4, 17;184:25;203:21; 208:4differentiate (1) 213:10discuss (1) 164:2discussed (5) 161:10;166:4,7,13; 217:13discussion (3) 165:19,23,25dispute (1) 220:18divided (1) 188:23divorce (6) 178:18;179:19; 181:10;193:10; 216:11,11divorced (1) 183:2doctor (1) 219:13doctor's (5) 171:11;189:21,24; 190:4,6document (13) 160:22,25;161:4; 184:1,17;185:4,5,8, 15,22;186:11; 188:14;190:20documents (4) 159:21;185:21,24; 186:10door (3) 180:3,4,5Doss (14) 172:15,17;174:5; 175:5,14,17,24; 176:3,5,13,16,20; 194:12,24Doss's (1) 174:20down (25) 176:11;178:22; 180:1;185:25;187:3, 5,6,25;189:6,8;192:4; 198:3;200:12; 201:10;203:5,14,20; 204:14;205:19; 207:16;208:9,16; 209:20;211:10,19downtown (1) 198:23


(2) cameras - downtown


drink (1) 194:11drive (2) 210:11,14driving (1) 212:17drop (4) 165:5;173:19; 181:7;202:13drop-offs (2) 174:8,16dropped (8) 168:6;186:15; 189:3;190:1;198:25; 200:6,23;208:14dropping (5) 175:4;189:9,12; 190:13,17drove (2) 191:5;192:5drug (7) 177:1,5;214:22,22, 25,25;215:12drugs (1) 215:20During (17) 167:12;172:2,5; 174:5;175:12; 178:13;179:22; 194:12,23;204:7; 209:8,11,20;214:18; 216:9,10;218:19

E

earlier (4) 161:3;165:21; 200:10;214:21early (3) 189:3;202:14; 208:13either (4) 187:2;204:7;208:1; 209:17elbow (1) 206:15else (4) 179:4;188:4;203:4; 212:7e-mail (13) 195:21;196:3,8,13, 21,22,23;197:2,4,5, 13,14,19e-mailed (1) 161:16e-mails (2) 175:10;214:16encompassed (1) 161:2ended (1) 169:2enlisted (1) 195:1

enough (2) 165:15;199:15entire (1) 183:11entirety (2) 160:19;166:18entries (2) 184:18;186:16entry (1) 186:20establish (1) 184:10evasive (1) 166:12Eve (2) 193:6,6even (5) 187:23;191:24; 212:4,14;220:22evening (3) 193:7;203:11; 204:3evenings (1) 188:24event (2) 170:14;186:18events (1) 169:17exact (1) 178:6exactly (8) 175:18;187:22; 193:5;202:18,18,21; 209:18;211:22EXAMINATION (1) 158:13examined (1) 158:10example (2) 170:8,22examples (1) 171:3exchange (1) 197:19excuses (1) 170:25exhibit (6) 188:9,11,14;196:5, 6,13explaining (1) 198:17explanation (1) 199:19expressly (1) 158:7extraction (1) 203:10extremely (1) 198:11ex-wife (1) 173:4eye (5) 165:9;218:10,15,

19,23

F

face (4) 200:6;201:6; 208:10,17facilitate (2) 193:17,18fact (4) 181:13;201:5; 203:3;207:2fainted (8) 203:10,12,17,21, 23;204:2,17,20fainting (2) 204:11;205:6fair (1) 193:16fake (6) 216:12;217:5,7; 218:10,15,19faked (2) 218:22;219:1family (2) 190:19;216:6far (3) 163:20;191:18; 192:3fear (4) 182:14,17,21,24federal (1) 198:23feeling (5) 178:1,4;219:19,24; 220:6fell (3) 178:21;208:9,16felt (3) 181:6;198:17; 220:5few (1) 193:23file (2) 178:25;180:12filled (1) 187:20final (1) 216:11find (3) 159:14;164:3; 189:6fine (6) 160:12;169:19; 170:16;196:18; 208:22;217:20finish (1) 158:22First (18) 159:6;160:23; 172:19,20;176:3; 180:1,6;189:23; 196:10;199:5,19;

213:10,18,23,23,24; 215:6;216:3flexible (1) 191:20following (1) 214:2follow-up (2) 164:12;165:18font (1) 184:8forearm (2) 204:21;206:16forehead (2) 204:12,16form (2) 181:17;188:17format (2) 185:10,15forward (2) 161:20;202:5found (8) 198:14;200:5; 201:19;205:16; 206:1,25;207:7; 215:13foundation (1) 184:12four (3) 167:13;191:5; 192:4frequently (2) 169:14;170:23Freshman (2) 163:6,6Friday (6) 188:24;203:6; 204:10;210:18,19; 211:1friend (1) 176:22friendly (1) 175:15friends (4) 163:3;175:24; 176:4;180:25front (3) 191:15;217:15,21

G

Games (2) 190:19;191:1gave (5) 191:9;194:1,4,4; 215:19general (1) 219:24generally (2) 166:6;220:6gets (1) 177:17girls (1) 173:1

given (1) 184:17giving (2) 160:24;171:4goes (3) 184:18,20,21good (6) 159:9,10;160:15; 161:2,3;176:9gosh (1) 208:18grade (1) 160:23Grady (1) 162:12grapevine (1) 170:10Guardian (2) 158:2,11guess (10) 163:13,14;170:24; 173:16;200:1; 202:17;210:15; 211:21;212:12;220:7guessing (1) 211:25guidelines (1) 193:22guys (2) 167:10,11

H

hair (1) 213:16hall (1) 180:1hallway (2) 217:2,3hand (1) 188:13hang (1) 175:24happen (4) 192:1;199:20; 204:9;208:12happened (9) 170:1,14;187:24; 189:7;205:2,17; 206:6;207:23;209:2happening (1) 213:9happy (1) 198:24hard (5) 166:12;178:21,21; 180:2;196:16hate (2) 211:21,21head (11) 168:14,19;181:4; 200:7,24;204:7,8,9, 20;213:16,18


(3) drink - head


headlights (2) 211:8;212:2heard (1) 170:10heart (1) 218:7help (5) 161:25;195:1,7; 196:3;220:2helpful (1) 182:20HEREBY (1) 158:1Hey (2) 191:23;217:8hit (4) 180:3;204:6,8; 216:23hole (1) 180:4holidays (1) 191:20home (8) 190:22;195:17; 199:1;202:15; 203:10;208:12,15; 218:11hoping (1) 211:19hospital (7) 179:2;189:4,10,14; 202:23;206:11;219:2house (14) 173:10,16,18,21, 22;174:20;190:6; 198:6;203:12,16,20; 205:15;211:12; 218:16huge (2) 213:17,17Hunger (2) 190:19;191:1hungry (1) 172:24hurry (1) 196:19hurt (2) 208:16;219:9

I

idea (2) 165:11;212:6identification (2) 188:12;196:7identify (1) 183:25important (7) 164:25;165:2,11, 25;166:2;187:12; 199:15inappropriate (1) 166:16

incident (11) 163:21;179:5,21; 180:16,21,23;194:23; 204:11;205:6; 217:12;218:18incidents (3) 181:2;182:2;204:7including (2) 160:19;177:15indicated (1) 161:3indicating (2) 202:20;214:17individuals (3) 167:20,24;168:13inflicted (1) 209:7information (5) 185:14;187:20; 191:15;193:1;200:25Infrequently (1) 193:23initiate (1) 176:12initiated (1) 172:25injure (1) 219:4injuries (1) 209:15injury (1) 219:7inscriptions (1) 188:16inside (2) 186:3,4instead (1) 213:9interaction (2) 174:1,4internal (1) 184:5into (5) 158:5;170:6; 171:25;185:14; 212:13introduce (2) 176:12,16introduced (1) 176:20investigation (1) 194:12involve (1) 162:14involved (1) 167:3issues (4) 165:8;171:21,23; 177:5itchy (1) 206:16

J

January (17) 178:6;181:5,14,19, 23;182:5;183:2; 195:16;209:20,21,24; 219:18,20,23,25; 220:5,15Judge (2) 166:19;216:19Julio (5) 167:16,16;168:5, 15;215:19July (1) 186:19June (3) 206:1,4,14junior (1) 163:10

K

keep (4) 187:2,23;199:22, 24kept (2) 165:9;187:23kicked (1) 178:20kids (23) 169:5,12,13,24; 170:2,4;181:7,12; 186:14,15;189:2; 191:5,22,24;192:5, 19;193:17;194:1,5; 197:23;217:15,22; 218:4kids' (1) 170:1kind (10) 169:2,7;171:17; 174:7;180:4;187:25; 193:4,8;219:11; 220:5knew (4) 177:17,22;218:10, 15knowledge (8) 174:18,21;176:2, 15,21,23;177:5; 192:13knows (1) 170:5Kristi (3) 189:4,10;214:17Kristi's (1) 220:15Kuhl (23) 159:19,23;160:13, 21;161:17,20;162:4, 9,12;166:8,23; 169:23;181:16;

182:13,16,19;184:4, 11;202:5;210:2; 216:15;221:4,6

L

labeled (1) 190:9Lajano (1) 168:15L-a-j-a-n-o (1) 168:16large (2) 204:11,15last (7) 159:7;160:17; 168:12,17;188:10; 195:12;209:6late (1) 191:2later (10) 167:16;179:6,7,10; 180:17,18;203:11; 204:3;209:25;216:20laundry (1) 178:19law (1) 210:15lawful (1) 158:10lay (1) 216:16lbamen1@aolcom (1) 197:1leading (1) 220:7leave (4) 165:5;212:20; 216:6,14left (3) 168:20,21;169:10legs (1) 205:16letter (2) 159:7;164:7letters (4) 175:10,15,16,17lie (1) 169:12lied (2) 169:24,24lies (6) 169:3,4,12,25; 170:24;171:22life (1) 182:10likely (2) 180:24;209:18LISA (1) 158:9list (10) 159:9,11;160:15, 18,20;161:2,2,4;

199:25;200:10listed (1) 191:6Litems (2) 158:3,11little (6) 175:9;176:10,11; 191:20;200:11; 219:12live (1) 183:7lived (1) 180:8locate (1) 159:13long (6) 162:2,10,13; 165:23;172:2;209:6look (9) 159:16;192:10,24; 193:11;197:14; 199:25;201:23; 208:21;211:10looked (5) 202:8,18,21; 208:23;213:15looking (7) 182:2;184:15; 193:8;202:10; 203:13;211:5;214:8looks (3) 200:16;203:20; 214:10lot (4) 162:16;167:9; 180:5;208:2lunch (4) 198:6,20,22,25Lynn (1) 158:4

M

mad (2) 198:14,16makes (1) 170:25mall (1) 172:21man (1) 167:3many (5) 162:7,14;163:8; 167:11;174:25March (3) 195:24;196:1,14marijuana (1) 215:13mark (10) 213:3,4,5,6,9,15, 17,17,17;214:14marked (8) 184:15,15;188:9,


(4) headlights - marked


10,11;196:5,6,14marks (3) 195:17;199:6; 206:15marriage (1) 178:13married (4) 172:2;179:23; 180:1,7Mary (1) 158:4may (8) 158:3,20;186:3; 203:6,9,14;204:14; 205:14maybe (4) 168:16;180:9; 186:23;187:1mean (18) 159:16,22;162:1; 165:9;171:6,7;173:4; 182:10,14;189:22; 194:18;195:5; 197:16;201:21; 202:21;203:11; 210:16;211:20meaning (2) 182:10;193:18medications (1) 196:16meeting (2) 214:20;215:3memo (1) 184:16memorandum (1) 184:6memorized (2) 192:24;193:1memory (3) 161:25;168:24; 169:8mentioned (3) 167:19;200:13; 218:21messaging (2) 195:10,11midnight (2) 219:20;220:1might (4) 173:23;198:11; 201:22;211:22mind (2) 170:5;171:8mischaracterize (1) 217:18misses (1) 170:23missing (4) 187:1,3;210:19,22mom (2) 203:24;208:16mom's (5) 203:10,15,16,19,23

more (12) 173:23,23;182:6; 199:21,22,24;200:12; 204:13,21;213:2,5; 218:13morning (6) 189:3,11,25; 190:23;208:13; 211:23Most (2) 180:24;209:18mother (1) 213:11mountains (1) 219:10move (1) 162:16movie (2) 190:19,23movies (1) 191:1must (2) 170:14;203:15

N

name (2) 168:12;173:6names (5) 160:15,15;167:14, 18;168:17near (2) 186:17,18necessary (1) 189:7need (6) 159:1,3;161:23; 169:20;194:10; 213:10next (5) 190:8;192:20; 205:14;213:21;220:1nice (1) 198:18niece (3) 200:6,16,23night (18) 190:18;200:16,17; 202:15;207:13,21; 210:18,19,22;211:1, 4,14;212:20;213:15, 18,18,24;214:14no-contact (2) 177:22;178:5non-important (1) 166:1normal (5) 192:7;193:2,9,11, 22notate (2) 199:14,16notated (3) 199:11,15;201:2

notating (1) 201:11note (18) 160:4,14,16,18,19; 161:1;164:18,20,23, 25;165:8,11,20; 166:13;186:2,4; 196:12;209:17noted (2) 203:3;209:15notes (4) 185:19;187:2,5,6notice (2) 199:3;209:15noticed (4) 199:10;201:7,10; 212:19November (6) 184:22,23,23; 190:7;191:4;219:5number (2) 184:16,17nurses (1) 208:24

O

oath (1) 158:16object (8) 166:8,15,17;180:2; 181:17;209:4; 216:15;217:17objection (1) 216:17objections (1) 166:20observed (8) 213:10,15,19,22, 24,24;214:5,13occurred (4) 187:13,19;213:6; 218:4o'clock (2) 186:15;190:18October (7) 188:18;206:25; 207:3,5;208:8;218:9, 14October-ish (1) 200:4off (30) 159:23;160:1; 162:6,22;163:25; 165:1,12;168:14,19, 20,22;169:11;172:10, 12;173:19;175:4; 181:3,7;186:15; 189:3,9,13;190:1,17; 198:25;202:13; 208:14;219:11,14,16office (1) 184:5

officer (1) 164:14often (2) 173:11,15old (2) 163:5,14older (2) 163:21;167:3once (1) 173:14one (16) 168:5,18;170:21; 179:25;180:24; 191:2;204:7,13; 206:2;208:5,7;215:6, 7;217:12;218:13; 219:15ones (2) 200:10;208:4ongoing (1) 185:9only (8) 167:21;172:22; 181:3;188:3;193:25; 202:17;211:7;212:18open (1) 198:24order (9) 159:19;175:13,21; 177:22;178:5,25; 180:12;181:9;189:3ordered (2) 194:2,6original (3) 187:9;188:15,16originals (3) 185:20;186:9,13out (8) 162:6;164:3;168:7; 172:17;175:24; 192:10,25;198:25outside (6) 167:19;174:16; 175:4;193:21;194:5; 209:9over (14) 159:1,3;160:11,22; 161:11;173:9,16,18; 174:11,19;175:9; 198:6;218:11,16own (2) 210:11,14

P

page (6) 161:1;162:13; 190:8;192:20; 205:14;210:2pages (1) 162:7Panera (2) 198:6,22

papers (3) 192:11,25;193:10park (2) 170:11,12particular (2) 187:25;208:5parties (1) 158:2people (5) 159:9,10;164:15; 168:2;177:15period (5) 167:10;175:22; 191:18;216:9;218:20periods (1) 187:7permit (2) 210:12,13personal (1) 174:21personally (1) 172:9phone (3) 164:5;220:1,15physical (1) 181:2physically (4) 178:12,15;179:22; 216:21pic (1) 201:20pick (4) 173:24;174:23; 210:25;211:3picked (2) 190:5;202:16picking (2) 169:10;175:4pick-ups (2) 174:8,16Pics (1) 204:22picture (4) 201:20,21;206:17, 19pictures (6) 202:14;204:22,23; 206:8,20,22pills (1) 217:16place (1) 181:9places (1) 169:25plan (3) 162:25;163:1,3play (1) 191:24played (2) 191:6;192:6please (1) 177:18pm (5)


(5) marks - pm


158:12;192:19; 202:13,16;221:9point (6) 160:3;162:21; 169:20;176:9; 187:12;199:23police (5) 178:23;180:10; 202:25;206:12; 216:13portion (1) 184:5possible (2) 191:21;201:16Possibly (2) 211:25;214:19pregnant (1) 189:16prepare (1) 185:7prepared (3) 184:3,13;185:5pretty (2) 207:12,17previously (1) 172:13PRICE (41) 158:14;159:25; 160:2,16;161:6,7,18, 23;162:7,10,17,21; 166:11,19;167:2; 170:8;172:13; 181:20,22;182:15; 183:1;184:9,12,14; 188:13;196:8,12,18; 202:7;205:13; 209:10;210:3; 213:13,14;216:16,19; 217:19,23;218:1; 219:14,17principal (2) 164:9,14print (1) 162:6prior (11) 158:19;160:4,14; 168:21;181:5,14,22; 183:1,9;213:7,14probably (10) 167:13;173:1,2; 175:9;178:17,17; 200:3,11;213:9; 215:23problem (7) 169:3,11;171:2; 177:2;214:22,25; 215:12problems (1) 169:1produced (1) 158:10prom (1) 202:13

properly (1) 213:12Protection (4) 175:13,21;178:25; 180:13provided (1) 184:7providing (1) 177:21psychotic (5) 168:23,25;171:9, 12,19pull (2) 192:10,25Pulled (1) 213:16pump (3) 215:15,16,17punished (1) 182:23purpose (1) 189:12purposes (1) 184:12put (5) 185:10,14;187:15, 21;188:6

Q

quicker (1) 162:16quite (1) 213:12

R

rash (1) 206:16Raymore (1) 180:9read (8) 164:20;165:10; 169:7;196:10,17,20, 23;217:24reading (1) 197:20realize (1) 169:20really (9) 171:16;175:12,19; 178:20;179:11; 188:1;198:3;202:17; 208:13reason (9) 171:24;172:1; 187:2,4,8;188:1; 198:10;220:18,20reasonable (1) 199:19reasons (1) 169:15Rebecca (1)

174:2recall (12) 169:8;183:17; 189:9;190:13,17,22; 195:24;197:13,19,25; 214:20;216:12receive (1) 202:6Recess (1) 205:12recognize (2) 197:5,10record (8) 159:23;160:1; 172:10,12;183:25; 209:5;219:14,16reference (1) 171:15referencing (1) 160:25referring (4) 182:12;183:12; 215:3,9refresh (3) 161:25;168:23; 169:8regard (1) 195:22regarding (3) 164:7;195:6; 200:14regular (1) 199:21related (3) 163:21;181:9; 198:8relation (1) 182:24relevance (1) 216:15relevant (1) 166:24remember (69) 158:23;159:15; 163:23;164:16; 165:13,14,16,17; 166:3,10,23;167:6,7, 9,17;168:8,18;173:1, 2;175:12,18;178:5,6; 179:9,13,14;180:2, 22,24,25;181:3; 187:6;188:9,25; 189:7,22;190:2,5,21, 24,25;191:3,14,17; 192:5,9;193:8,9; 198:3,4,5,10,11; 199:5;201:9;202:18; 206:7;207:17;208:1, 3,5,6,7;211:5,22; 217:1;218:17,22,24remembers (1) 166:12rephrase (1)

177:18report (7) 177:1;178:23; 180:10;195:17; 202:25;206:12; 215:24Reporter (1) 158:5reprimanded (1) 182:22request (2) 166:18;194:13requested (1) 194:22reserved (1) 158:7residence (1) 216:6resource (1) 164:14response (1) 218:3restroom (1) 205:10review (4) 161:21;162:3,5,11reviewing (2) 162:15;196:13ribs (2) 208:9,17right (26) 158:20;167:2; 171:5;173:2;178:7; 186:5,11,12,24; 187:17;188:2; 189:24;203:22; 206:2,15;207:1,8,20; 209:18;210:10,16; 213:13;214:13; 215:8;217:23;219:3rolled (1) 219:11room (6) 164:16;178:19; 198:15;204:5; 215:17;218:5rough (1) 193:4rule (1) 216:20rules (1) 158:24run (7) 162:22;163:25; 165:1,4,12;166:14; 167:4

S

same (4) 159:2,4;161:1; 174:7Saturday (10)

202:13;210:19,22; 211:4;212:24;213:4, 14,18,24;214:14saw (3) 170:11,13;204:9saying (7) 170:6,25;185:13; 192:5;201:15; 207:19;213:9scare (1) 183:12scared (11) 181:6,14;219:18, 19,24;220:6,6,6,16, 22,23scary (2) 178:1,4scenario (1) 170:4schedule (5) 171:7;181:12; 192:8,24;193:9scheduled (2) 191:16;209:9school (13) 163:3;164:5,7,13; 168:2,3,4,5,7,10; 208:20,21,23scope (2) 181:17,21scratch (1) 206:15second (5) 159:24;169:18; 172:11;196:17; 219:15security (3) 211:6,11,16seeing (1) 195:11seem (1) 198:24seems (2) 211:20,20send (3) 195:21;202:1; 214:16sent (1) 175:10serious (1) 219:12several (7) 159:8;160:5; 167:13;178:17; 179:19;187:7;220:15sexual (1) 172:6shared (1) 159:21shorthand (1) 158:4show (1) 211:17


(6) point - show


showed (3) 196:3;212:23; 213:16shower (4) 203:11,18,19; 204:4side (2) 159:10,11signature (1) 158:6significant (1) 165:15sister (2) 173:4;180:25situation (1) 164:3six (5) 188:24;189:2; 191:5;192:5,19sled (1) 219:11sledding (1) 219:10somebody (6) 163:21;167:7,8; 170:11,13;180:20someone (1) 167:5sometime (1) 200:3Sometimes (6) 173:20;174:12; 191:19,21;199:17,18somewhere (1) 210:14sonogram (1) 189:18sorry (6) 194:8;196:15; 198:17;201:4;206:4; 214:2sort (2) 175:10;177:1sound (1) 183:10span (1) 192:13specific (4) 169:17;175:2; 182:7;184:22speculate (2) 209:6,7speculation (1) 166:9spell (1) 168:15spend (1) 202:14spoke (1) 195:14sprain (1) 219:8sprained (1)

219:11spring (3) 195:18,19;198:1SST (1) 214:20stab (1) 218:6stairs (2) 208:9,16stand (1) 218:1start (5) 162:17,18,19; 179:11;188:22started (4) 188:24;197:24; 199:21;200:11Starting (2) 158:12;185:4starts (2) 184:19;185:3State (2) 162:22,23stated (1) 160:14statement (2) 161:3;166:16statements (1) 168:22stay (2) 195:8;211:15Steve (53) 159:10;168:22,24; 171:19;172:3,6; 174:19;176:16; 177:1,8,10,13,14,20, 20,23;178:4,10,12; 181:15,23;182:4,25; 190:19;191:5,10; 192:16;193:17; 194:1,4,4;195:2,7,19; 197:5,21,25;199:7; 201:8,8;203:9; 207:10;209:1,8,11; 214:16;216:5,6,21, 23,25;217:6;219:19steveamen@ssagov (1) 197:9Steve's (1) 190:14still (3) 158:16;160:7; 194:7STIPULATED (1) 158:1stopped (1) 169:6stories (2) 170:2,4strike (1) 166:18students (1) 164:6

stuff (2) 174:8;215:15subtle (2) 177:14,16suddenly (1) 181:6suggest (1) 195:19suicide (7) 159:8;160:4,14,16; 161:1;217:15;218:3summarized (1) 186:7summary (2) 188:15,17Sunday (8) 201:18;209:19; 212:20;213:2,4,25; 214:5,8suppose (1) 159:15sure (18) 160:21,24;161:22; 164:24;166:2; 171:14;187:11,14; 189:20;193:5;196:4; 201:23;205:11; 207:12,17;208:20; 215:21;220:20surprise (1) 198:20surveillance (1) 212:19suspect (3) 215:22;216:1,3switches (1) 193:7sworn (1) 158:10synthetic (1) 215:15

T

talk (6) 159:20;160:3; 174:7;195:15; 219:15;220:23talked (10) 159:7;160:17; 164:13,14;176:25; 188:14;195:16; 213:2,4,5talking (7) 168:22;181:18; 183:3;192:2,2; 198:12;219:21tape (1) 211:14Taylor (12) 189:3,9,17,23; 190:13,17,22;202:12; 208:9,10,12,15

teacher (1) 160:23team (1) 164:6telling (5) 169:3,11;189:20; 197:25;216:12tells (1) 166:21ten (1) 173:14term (1) 171:13testify (1) 162:1testifying (2) 166:17;182:16testimony (2) 172:14;220:5Thanksgiving (3) 191:5;192:3,8thinking (2) 198:16;202:20though (1) 220:22thought (4) 198:13;213:22; 214:1,9threat (4) 164:17;177:16; 216:8;217:5threaten (2) 178:10;218:6threatened (4) 159:8;162:22; 217:14;218:2threatening (5) 163:25;165:1,12; 166:14;167:4threats (1) 177:14three (6) 163:11;167:13,20, 21,23;211:24three-ish (1) 211:23threw (1) 180:3throw (1) 216:25Thursday (2) 191:4;203:14times (10) 173:14,22;174:5, 13,25;193:23;194:6; 199:13;203:21; 220:15today (7) 158:23;159:13,17; 161:15,24;171:18; 195:14together (2) 172:22,23

told (13) 162:24;163:2; 164:8,10;165:3; 168:6;169:16; 177:19;179:14; 201:1;208:21;215:2; 220:19took (6) 180:2;186:6;191:5; 198:23;203:9;204:4top (5) 168:14,19;181:4; 184:4;188:6towards (2) 172:6;175:17track (4) 187:23,24;199:22, 24transcribed (1) 158:5trick (2) 170:6,15tried (5) 191:19;193:16; 217:14,15;218:18tries (1) 170:15trouble (1) 182:23true (6) 169:5;170:2;194:2; 214:24;220:8,14truth (2) 169:3,12try (8) 159:12,12;170:5,6; 199:8,23;218:10,14trying (4) 184:10;199:21; 211:10;212:12Tuesday (1) 200:16turn (3) 160:10;188:18; 219:25turned (1) 178:20turning (2) 160:22;212:5twice (1) 173:14two (9) 163:12,12;165:24; 168:17;179:11; 181:3;185:11; 188:10;203:21two-hour (1) 192:13typewriting (1) 158:6

U


(7) showed - typewriting


unable (1) 169:15under (3) 158:16;169:21; 202:11unexplained (1) 199:6unless (3) 166:21;208:3; 216:9unusual (1) 203:4up (17) 162:18;169:10,14; 170:3,25;173:24; 174:23;175:4;190:5; 192:10;198:15; 202:16;211:1,4,18; 212:23;213:3upon (1) 160:17upper (2) 201:20;202:19upset (8) 171:5,7;177:17,22, 23;178:19;198:11,13upstairs (1) 204:4use (4) 171:12;205:9; 214:22,25used (3) 185:21;186:11; 215:2using (3) 161:25;171:15,16Utah (1) 219:5

V

vice-principal (1) 164:15visit (6) 189:14,21,23,24; 190:4,6visitation (38) 161:11;181:6,8,12; 190:14;191:12,17; 192:7,22,22,23; 193:3,12,17,21,22; 194:1,5,6;195:19; 197:22;198:1,12; 199:7;200:17;201:3, 3,7,8,12;205:20,23; 207:13,14,18,21; 209:1;214:18visitations (2) 169:15;170:24visited (1) 219:5visits (1) 209:9

VUJNICH (1) 221:5

W

walking (1) 180:1wants (1) 170:7Washington (4) 162:22,23;166:14; 167:4water (1) 194:11way (5) 177:12,12;182:24; 191:21;208:16weather (1) 169:21Wednesday (3) 200:17;207:12; 220:12week (3) 185:11;191:2,18weekend (22) 184:24;186:14; 188:21,22;189:2; 190:9,9,14,15; 201:19;202:12; 203:7;204:15; 205:15,20,24;206:15; 207:2,2;209:21; 210:5;220:3Weekends (3) 188:23;206:3; 209:16weeks (1) 185:11weird (3) 193:8;206:25; 207:7welt (1) 216:13weren't (3) 158:22;215:4; 220:23What's (5) 163:9;184:15; 185:17;197:8;201:20When's (1) 199:5WHEREIN (1) 221:8whole (1) 183:11window (1) 181:18withdraw (5) 181:13;194:9; 199:7;214:3;217:4Without (3) 182:16;193:8; 210:15

witness (4) 158:6;172:6,9; 209:5witnessed (1) 172:2wondering (1) 182:9wood (1) 180:5worded (1) 213:12work (1) 191:22wrist (3) 207:1,8;219:4write (10) 185:19;186:14; 187:3,5,6,9,25;189:6; 198:3;207:16writing (1) 200:12written (8) 164:7;185:10,25; 187:14;189:8; 191:21;205:19; 209:13wrote (9) 160:23;191:16; 192:4;201:10;203:5, 20;209:20;211:9,19

Y

year (10) 175:9;179:20; 181:22;182:4;183:1, 3,9;192:10,25;214:21years (13) 159:9;160:5;163:8, 11,12,12;165:24; 172:4,5;178:18; 179:19,23;184:22yelled (1) 182:22yelling (1) 182:11youth (1) 170:1

1

1 (2) 190:10,2210:00 (1) 190:1810th (5) 206:1,4;209:20,21, 2411:30 (1) 192:1911th (1) 207:312th (3)

209:20,21,2513th (1) 207:314 (2) 163:17,1915 (2) 163:18,1915th (12) 178:7;181:5,14,19, 23;182:5;183:2; 219:18,23;220:5,8,1116 (1) 200:516th (4) 219:20,25;220:9, 1617 (2) 163:16;200:517th (1) 205:1418 (1) 210:218th (3) 195:24;196:1,1419th (1) 205:151st (4) 158:20;184:23; 190:8;208:8

2

20 (2) 162:9,132006 (1) 179:172008 (1) 216:52012 (5) 184:19;185:3,4; 186:20;194:222013 (18) 181:7;183:3,10,12; 184:24;188:19; 190:8;195:18,18; 196:2,14;200:3; 202:11;207:5; 214:17;218:9,14; 219:52013-2014 (1) 192:202014 (7) 178:8;181:23; 183:11;195:17; 210:3;219:21,2321st (2) 206:14;209:323 (3) 172:4,5;179:2325th (1) 188:1826th (2) 201:18;202:12

27th (2) 188:19;207:1028th (2) 191:4;202:1229th (4) 184:23;190:7,10; 207:112nd (2) 203:9,14

3

30th (1) 186:203rd (2) 203:6;204:14

4

4:00 (1) 158:12

5

5th (2) 203:6;204:14

6

6 (1) 202:136:00 (2) 200:20;221:96:30 (1) 188:25

7

7:00 (1) 186:15

8

8:30 (1) 200:2087 (2) 180:9,10

9

9:00 (1) 202:169:40 (1) 189:109th (3) 195:17;206:25; 207:5


(8) unable - 9th

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