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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE NINTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, IN AND FOR ORANGE COUNTY, FLORIDA
CASE NUMBER: 48-2008-CP-015606-0
DIVISION 16
STATE OF FLORIDA,
Plaintiff,
vs.
CASEY MARIE ANTHONY,
Defendant.
Orlando, Florida
August 5, 2009
10:08 a.m.
DEPOSITION OF:
GEORGE A. ANTHONY
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Marge Raeder Court Reporter, Inc. 999 Douglas Avenue/Suite 3307
Altamonte Springs, FL 32714 407/774-6611 • Fax 407/774-4490
A P P E A R A N C E . S :
LINDA DRANE BURDICK, ATTORNEY AT LAW FRANK GEORGE, ESQUIRE JEFFREY ASHTON, ESQUIRE Assistant State Attorneys 415 North Orange Avenue Orlando, Florida 32801
Appearing on behalf of the Plaintiff.
JOSE BAEZ, ESQUIRE 522 Simpson Road Kissimmee, Florida 34744
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ANDREA LYON, ATTORNEY AT LAW [Via Skype] 15 East Jackson Boulevard
Chicago, Illinois 60604
Appearing on behalf of the Defendant.
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3 BRADLEY A. CONWAY, ESQUIRE 189 South Orange Avenue Suite 1850 Orlando, Florida 32801
Appearing on'behalf of the Deponent.
I N D E X
TESTIMONY OF GEORGE A. ANTHONY:
Direct Examination by Mr. Ashton 5 Direct Examination by Ms. Drane Burdick 275 Further Direct Examination by Mr. Ashton 318 Further Direct Examination by Ms. Drane Burdick 324
Further Direct Examination by Mr. Ashton 330 Cross Examination by Mr. Baez 332
CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 335
SUBSCRIPTION OF DEPONENT 336
1 E X HI BI TS
2 Marked By Reference
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4 Exhibit Number 3 3 159 Exhibit Number 4 3
5 Exhibit Number 5 3 Exhibit Number 6 3
6 Exhibit Number 7 3 151 Exhibit Number 8 3 155
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The deposition of GEORGE A.
ANTHONY was taken on behalf of the
Plaintiff on Wednesday, August 5,
2009, beginning at 10:08 a.m., at
the Office of the State Attorney,
415 North Orange Avenue, Room 379,
Orlando, Florida, before Dawn R.
Matter, Electronic Reporter and Notary
Public, State of Florida at Large.
[Whereupon, Exhibit Numbers 1
through 8 were marked for identification.]
Whereupon,
GEORGE A. ANTHONY,
having been first duly sworn by the reporter, testified
as follows:
MR. ASHTON: Good morning.
THE WITNESS: Good morning.
MR. ASHTON: Let's begin first by introducing
everyone. I'm Jeff Ashton on behalf of the State
of Florida.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: Linda Burdick.
MR. GEORGE: Frank George on behalf of the
State.
MR. CONWAY: Brad Conway for George Anthony.
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MR. BAEZ: Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon on
behalf of Casey Anthony.
MR. ASHTON: And for the record, Ms. Lyon is
appearing by computer from her office in Chicago?
MR. BAEZ: Chicago.
MR. ASHTON: All right. And we've already
verified that she can hear us and will participate
when she needs to.
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Mr. Anthony, before we begin, I want to go
through some preliminary matters about your appearance
here. You are here pursuant to a subpoena that was
actually issued for your appearance last week, I
believe on Wednesday of last week was when it was set.
By agreement with Mr. Conway, who was present with your
wife, it was agreed that your subpoena would be held
over until this week for both your convenience and ours
in trying to get this deposition done.
I say that to point out that you are still
under subpoena here today, under a State Attorney
subpoena. That subpoena has certain obligations or
protections I want to go over with you. I'm sure Mr.
Conway has already explained them to you, but I want to
make sure they're on the record.
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Since you are a subpoenaed witness in this
case, you are obligated to provide any information that
you know and answer any questions you are asked. The
only time you can refuse to answer a question is based
upon a claim of privilege, which Mr. Conway would advise
you about and explain to you. That is your obligation
under subpoena.
The protection you are given by law under
subpoena -- and, again, this is based upon Florida
statute, and it is granted to every witness who is
subpoenaed by the State -- it's something called use
and derivative-use immunity. That means that you may
feel free to discuss openly anything, any facts you
know in this case, even if those facts would tend to
incriminate you.
Again, I explain this, not because we think
that you have done anything wrong. It's just a standard
protection that all witnesses receive. Not only can
nothing that you tell us be used against you, but nothing
that we derive from what you tell us can be used against
you.
As an example, if you were to tell us where a
piece of evidence could be found that would incriminate
you, we went and found that piece of evidence, we could
use neither your admission or the piece of evidence
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against you. The only exception to that is for
prosecution for perjury committed today or at any time
hereafter. Under those circumstances, the evidence
could be used.
Aside from that -- therefore, based on that,
you may not claim a privilege of self-incrimination
during this deposition. Any other privileges that you
feel apply that you would like to claim, you may, on
consultation with your counsel, but not the privilege
against self-incrimination.
What I've just explained to you, is that
pretty much what you already knew?
A I understand. Yes.
Q Okay. Any questions about any of that?
A No.
Q All right. Let's just start off, please tell
us your name.
A George A. Anthony.
Q And what is your date of birth?
A September 5th, 1951.
Q Let me just start out with some personal
history of yours. Just kind of take me through where
you were born, where you were raised, those kinds of
things.
A I was born in Warren, Ohio. I was raised in
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a small town called Niles, Ohio, which is adjacent to
Warren, Ohio. Up until the year 1989, I lived in Ohio,
and I moved down here in September of 1989 --
Q A n d - -
A -- and resided here since.
Q -- do you -- were both your parents -- I
believe both -- are both your parents still alive?
A Yes. Both of my parents are still alive.
Q Okay.
A They live in Fort Myers, Florida.
MR. BAEZ: Excuse me, Jeff.
MR. ASHTON: Sure.
MR. BAEZ: I don't mean to interrupt, but I
think the camera is facing the wall.
MR. ASHTON: Yeah. It does seem to be
getting a lot of the post.
MR. BAEZ: Yeah. If you could turn it.
MR. ASHTON: Let's see. Is that better?
MR. BAEZ: Is that better, Andrea?
MS. LYON: It's much better. And Jeff, as
long as we're talking, if you can keep your voice
up just a little bit. I'm having a little trouble
hearing you, which I know you can't believe.
MR. ASHTON: Yeah. I have never heard --
I've never had that -- I've never heard that
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before.
MS. LYON: Thank you.
MR. ASHTON: Usually it's the other way
around.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q And your -- those are your biological
parents, no stepparents or anything like that?
A They're my biological parents. Yes.
Q Did you have any siblings?
A Yes. I have three sisters.
Q Three sisters. And where -- what are their
ages in comparison to yours?
A I have a sister who's seven years older than
I am. She'll be GO -- wow.
Q You don't have to do the math. It's okay. A
Okay.
Q That's why I said --
A Yes. She's --
Q -- in comparison to yours.
A Yes. She's older. And I have two younger
sisters.
Q And how many years younger are they?
A One is ten years younger and the other one is
seven years younger.
Q So a spread of 24 years between the youngest
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and the oldest?
A Yes.
Q All right. And how old were your parents
when you were born, approximately?
A Well, my dad would have been 25 years old.
Q And your mother?
A She would have been 26. She's about -- just
about a year older than my father.
Q Okay. What did your parents, your father do
or your mother do when you were growing up? What were
their occupations?
A My mother was a stay-at-home mom. My dad had
an automobile business for 44 years.
Q Was it new cars, used cars, a little of both?
A It was five-year-old used cars, and we also
sold new ones considered conversion vans at the time.
Q Okay. Now, as you were growing up, did you
go through elementary school, middle school, high
school, complete all those normal kind of schooling?
A Yes. I did. I went from what we consider
kindergarten or like a pre-school all the way up
through high school, graduated. Also went off to
Youngstown State University.
Q And did you spend that entire time in Niles,
or Warren, or --
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A Up until the time that I met Cindy, yes. I
was living in Niles, Ohio. And when I met her, we
moved into a small, what we call, a township right
outside of Niles, called Howland Township.
Q And is Niles like a suburb of Warren? A
It's a small city itself, probably about
45,000 people. Very small midwestern town.
Q And how big is Warren?
A 110,000. About double the size.
Q And it is in eastern Ohio; is that --
A Eastern section of Ohio, yes.
Q Eastern Ohio? What is -- is Warren one of
those towns where there's a primary industry that sort
of the town grew around or kind of describe it to me.
A Well, the primary industry is the steel
industry. Also we had automobile manufacturing there.
Q Okay. And coming up through, did your father -
- you said your father had the business for 40-some
years?
A 44 years exactly.
Q 44 years.
A Yes.
Q Would you describe your upbringing as middle
class? Were you on the wealthier end of the community
you lived in? How would you describe that?
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A Middle class.
Q Just middle class. Now, when you -- you said
you graduated from high school and you went to
Youngstown State?
A University. Yes.
Q In Ohio?
A Yes.
Q Was that a place where you would -- did you
live in Youngstown, or was it close enough to Warren
that you could commute?
A I could commute. About a 25, 30-minute
drive.
Q And did you live at home and -A
Yes.
Q -- commute to school?
A Uh-huh.
Q How far did you get in college? AIt took me five-and-a-half years to get a
four-year degree, a Bachelor in business
administration, a minor in art.
Were you working while you were at
school? AYes.
Q What were you doing?
A I worked for my father at the car business
and also took a position as a law enforcement
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officer --
Q Right.
A -- back in 1975. Got out of the family
business.
Q So you started in law enforcement in '75?
A Yes.
Q And were you still in college when you were
in law enforcement?
A Yeah. Just had finished up. It was, like,
probably about a month or two difference, yes, from the
time I started until when I graduated.
Q All right. Was this something that you
had thought about having a career in or focused on a
career, or was it something you just wanted to try or,
you know, that -- oh. There you go. Some water.
[Whereupon, there was an interruption in the
proceedings, after which the following
transpired:]
THE WITNESS: Actually, the family business,
decided to do something different. It was a
challenge, a friend of mine was doing it, and it
was something interesting to do.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Okay. And you were with the -- I don't
know if I have the term right, was it County?
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A, The Trumbull County Sheriff's Department.
Q County Sheriff's Department.
A Yes.
Q And how big is Trumbull County? I know --
population, just general estimates. Back in -- when
you started in the '70s, how big a place was it?
A Probably the whole complete county as far as
the amount of people who lived there through all the
townships and the different little cities and stuff like
that, maybe a little less than a million people. Maybe
800,000, right around in there. I mean,
that's --
Q Okay.
A That's a tough --
Q Rough estimate. I --
A Giving you a rough idea.
Q I'm just trying to get a sense of the
community a little bit.
A Okay.
Q All right. So you started in law enforcement
in '75. Just kind of take me through your career path in
law enforcement.
A I was in uniform for about two years, working
in different areas throughout the county. Going into
about my two-and-a-half year period, I was promoted to
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a detective. I was the very first one to be promoted
so quickly within the sheriff's department of all the
years it had been in existence.
Q That's wonderful. How large a detective
division, if that's the correct word they used, did the
Trumbull County Sheriff's Office have?
A That could fluctuate by the number of
officers we had on our force at the time. Officers we
had -- when I was -- at our peak, I think we had 115 or
116 officers in our Trumbull County Sheriff's
Department. As far as the number of detectives, I
think we had, like, 16 or 17 of us were --
Q O k a y .
A -- in different divisions within the
Detective Bureau.
Q And how -- and it's called the Detective
Bureau, was the --
A Yes.
-- term you used. Okay.
A Yes.
Q Within the Detective Bureau, how were -- how
was it divided up, in other words? A Oh, we had a
burglary division. We had an
auto theft division, which I was basically assigned to.
We also had a homicide division, which I occasionally
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worked in. And we just -- you know, different things.
mean, it was just whatever came through. Small/petty
theft, I think vandalisms. It was --
Q Is -- I imagine with that number of officers,
there was a lot cross-over where --
A Oh, absolutely.
Q -- one division would get busy and the other
would help and --
A Right.
Q -- that kind of thing?
Okay. So you started out in Auto Theft?
A Uh-huh.
Q And did you ever -- were you ever -- and how
long were you a detective?
A Oh, geez. Just about five-and-a-half, maybe
six years, roughly.
Q And at any of those times, were you actually
transferred full time to a different division within
the sheriff's office other than the auto theft
division?
A Oh, I worked in a -- I was working undercover
in a drug division. We had a drug and surveillance
division that we had. That was something that was --
the sheriff at the time, our newest sheriff that came
in, he just divided certain officers, and we had --
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there was, like, three or four of us that were assigned
to that particular area.
Q Okay. And what type of undercover or
surveillance work would you do in that division?
A Wow. Any -- any particular case that would
have involved drugs, selling, being cultivated within
our county and other counties that were around us we
worked very closely with. It was basically a task
force we had --
Q O k a y .
A -- formed with the Mahoney County Sheriff's
Department and Trumbull County Sheriff's Department --
Q Now, I -- A -- at the time.
I'm sorry. I thought somebody said
something. I know in some different parts of the
country, different types of drugs are the greater
problem. Some places it's marijuana cultivation; some
places meth production; some places crack cocaine.
What was -- was there a main focus in Trumbull County
as far as your investigations went?
A Well, a lot of things that we were involved
with, that I can remember having a lot of -- a decent
amount of arrests with, was a marijuana growth and
cultivation we had within our couple counties that we
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worked with.
We also at the time was a drug called PCP or
phencyclidine. It's a horse-type --
Q Yeah.
A -- thing. That's going back. As far as
crack cocaine, it wasn't really the big thing, I guess,
back then or the meth and stuff like that.
Q It wasn't really until the '80s.
A Yeah. It's -- I think right after I got out
of it, I think that stuff really started to --
Q All right.
A -- blossom.
Q And so you were in that unit for how long?
A I would say 18 months, right around there.
That was sort of towards the end of my stint as a
detective. Yes.
Q Now, I think you indicated that during your
time, even when you were in Auto Theft, you would
occasionally cross over and investigate homicide cases
as well, or violent-crimes cases?
A Uh-huh.
Q How frequently would you become involved in
investigations of violent-crimes cases and homicide
cases?
A To put a specific amount of days or months or
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something like that, I really don't remember. I --
Q Just in general. In other words, was it
something that happened once or twice, or was it
something that happened, you know, fairly often to the
point that it didn't become, like, really, you know,
notable kind of thing?
A Oh, no. I mean, there are specific cases
that I can remember very, very well --
Q O k a y .
A -- that I was involved with, probably for a
matter of months or maybe even a year. But as far as
exact amount of times I worked in, like, violent crimes
and stuff like that, I'm going to say maybe two years
at max maybe with that.
Q Okay. I understand that. Did you -- did you
-- were you called upon to testify very frequently as a
law enforcement officer up in Trumbull County?
A I was in court numerous times for a lot of
different --
Q R i g h t .
A -- different things.
Q Well, I know at some point during this period
of time you met your wife.
A Uh-huh.
Q Can you tell me, how long had you been in --
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where were you in your law enforcement career when you
met Cindy?
A Towards the end of my detective bureau -- I
was working undercover at the time.
Q All right.
A I was working as a drug enforcement person in
our division.
Q Did you ever actually, you know, pretend to
be a drug purchaser, do the whole --
A Oh, yeah. You did.
Q -- the whole thing?
A Absolutely.
Q Okay. My understanding is that Cindy was a
nurse for a family member? That's how you met her?
A As a matter of fact, my sister was in the
hospital, yes, when T met Cindy.
Q And she is how much younger than you? Like,
a few years?
A Ruthie is ten years younger.
Q I meant Cindy. I'm sorry.
A Oh, Cindy? Cindy is seven years younger than
me.
Q Seven years younger. Okay. And so how were
you -- how old were you when you met?
A I was 29 and she would be 22.
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Q 22. Now, it's my understanding that you had
been married before you and Cindy got married; is that
correct?
A Yes.
Q All right. Tell me a little bit about that,
when in your life that happened, kind of how long it
lasted, just a thumbnail sketch.
A Oh, that lasted from 1972 to just about the
last part of 1979, almost 1980.
Q Okay. So through your -- when you were in
college to when you started in law enforcement, and
then it ended while you were in law enforcement.
A Yes.
Q Okay. Any children of that --
A No.
Q -- marriage?
A No children.
Q What was her name?
A Her name was Terry, T-e-r-r T-e-r-r-y.
T-e-r-r-y. Okay.
A I'm sorry.
Q What was her last name?
A Rosenberger [phl was her maiden name.
Q Rosenberger. You know, the ending of that
marriage, did it have anything to do with your career
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in law enforcement?
A It had something to do with it.. Her also
working in the auto industry. She worked for a plant,
which was called Pack 4)10 Electric at the time. Just
never saw each other.
Q R i g h t .
A When you're in law enforcement, you work
undercover, you're sometimes --
Q S u r e .
A -- you're not available 9:00 to 5:00.
Q Right.
A You don't make it home sometimes for two or
three days.
Q How -- was the -- was there any acrimony in
the divorce, or was it kind of just -- was it okay, or
was it a very difficult divorce?
A Oh, yeah. I mean, we split very -- as
amicably as possible.
Q Okay.
A I mean, she -- she went her way and I went
mine.
Q Okay. And you said you met her -- you
divorced in '79. What year was it you met Cindy?
A Just in the spring of 1980 and we were
married a year later.
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Q O k a y .
A 1981.
Q And you got married in Warren or Niles?
A Niles, Ohio.
Q Niles. And -- let's see. Did you and Cindy
live together before you got married?
A About two months maybe, right around there.
We had purchased a home together and probably just a
couple months.
Q All right. And so you got married. And
after you were married, what -- did you both continue
to work?
A Yes.
Q How long after you got married was it that
you left law enforcement?
A Oh, about four years. Three-and-a-half, four
years.
Q And what -- tell me about your decision to
leave law enforcement. What prompted that? How did
that come about?
A Oh, my father made me an offer to go back in
the family business, which was a good offer. He was
getting ready to retire, or at least step back, and he
wanted to keep it in the family. My son had been born.
Just a lot of different little reasons.
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Q Okay.
A Law enforcement, too, was getting very, very
treacherous at the time, I guess to say, through a bad
automobile accident, through some other causative
things that made me start thinking about my life a
little bit differently.
Q Okay. And I'm sure having a child gives you
a different perspective of that, too.
A Having a son gives you a different
perspective on a lot of things. Yeah. You value your
life differently when you have children.
Q So what -- and did -- did Cindy encourage you
-- maybe that's the wrong way to put it.
Was she concerned about your safety when you
were in law enforcement? Did she express that to you
and --
A Absolutely.
-- those kind of things? All right. So --
well, how long after you were married was Lee born?
A He was born in 19 -- God, he's going to hate
me for this. 1982. So it was about a year-and-a-half.
Q O k a y .
A About -- I think about 17 months after we
were married he was --
Q Right. And was he planned?
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A Absolutely.
Q Okay. I have four kids, two planned, two
not, so that's why T asked. All right. So you get out
of law enforcement. You go to work for your father; in
what capacity?
A I was considered the general manager of the
business, overseeing the sales and service department
of our business, of our family-owned business.
Q Did -- and it was called Anthony Motors or --
A Anthony's Auto Sales and Service.
Q Anthony's Auto Sales and Service. One
location? More than one location?
A Oh, my father, over the 44 years that he was
involved in it, he moved three different times. When
the business would get better or increase, he would
build on or he would go to another location to --
Q At the time that you took over, how many
locations did his company have?
A We just had one location.
Q Just one. And still selling used cars and
new conversion vans?
A Yes.
Q Did you -- did your company actually do the
conversions of the vans or just sell them?
A We just sold them. We purchased the vans and
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sent them to Elkhart, Indiana, to be converted over.
That's considered the conversion capital of the United
States.
Q Right. Every one I've ever seen has had
Elkhart on the back.
A Yeah.
Q And then you would sell them --
A Yes.
Q -- at that point? Okay.
So you went to work as -- now, at that point
working for your father, were you working just as a
salaried employee, or were you given profit sharing or
something like that?
A Basically salaried. I mean, when the
business did better each month, or a quarter, something
like that, yeah, I would get an extra maybe two or
three percent or whatever it might be. I mean, it's --
it's like anything else. Business is doing well, you
make more, and when it's not doing well, you don't do
as well, so --
Q Right. Was your father actively involved in
the daily operations when you were general manager, or
did he sort of step back and --
A The first year he was there pretty much
daily. But after going into the second year after I
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went back into business with him, he decided on cutting
back.
Q O k a y .
A Maybe two/three days a week, if that
sometimes.
Q All right. And so you kept working for --
how long did you work as the general manager for your
father's business?
A Just about -- about three-and-a-half, maybe
four years. And we decided to part because he was
getting ready to -- he had a chance to sell the
business.
Q O k a y .
A And I went out on my own and started my own,
George Anthony's Auto Sales, so --
Q Okay. So it -- had it been your impression
that he was going to sort of turn the business over to
you?
A That was my --
Q O k a y .
A -- feelings back in -- when I left the
sheriff's department; yes.
Q Okay. But that didn't turn out -- didn't
turn out that way?
A Not fully, no.
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Q Okay.
A No.
Q So he sold the business. Did you get -- did
he give you any sort of part of the business or anything
like that, or was it just he sold the business and you
started your own on your own?
A He sold the business and I went out on my
own.
Q Okay. And what were you selling? Obviously
cars, but what type of cars?
A Used cars. I sold cars two, three, maybe
five years old. Could be a little bit older. But
basically I was trying to stay in that newer-type --
Q Right.
A -- used models.
Q And how big a lot did you have, if you can
kind of describe it?
A Just about -- maybe about an acre lot. Could
put maybe 50, 60 cars on it, something like that.
Q All right. And, again, did you do the
conversion-van thing, too, or --
A No. I completely separated from that,
because at the time I just couldn't afford to do both.
Q Sure.
A It was --
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Q And what year was it you started the
business?
A 1987 until 1989.
Q All right. And what year was Casey born?
A 1986.
Q '86. So she was born while you were still
working for your dad?
A Yes. with my father.
Q And then you started the business after that.
All right. How did the -- how did the business go?
A Oh, the very first year that I was in
business by myself went very well. We did very well as
far as financially.
Q R i g h t .
A The second year was a little trials and
tribulations through a lot of different things. Prices
go up as far as insurances, Workers' Comp, whatever it
might be, and it was tough to make ends meet.
Q And I know you just told me this, but I just
-- '89 is when you started the business?
A 1987.
Q '87. Okay. Sorry about that. And it went
through about '89-90, sometime like that?
A Well, matter of fact, 1980 -- the last part
of '88, going into 1989, Cindy and I could see that it
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wasn't being as profitable as it should have been. She
also saw me putting more and more hours and she just
says: Is it really worth it?
And I'm like: Maybe not. Maybe I'm not cut
out to be a --
Q Right.
A -- quote/quote car guy, so --
Q It's not for everybody.
A No.
Q Now during all this period of time, is Cindy
still working?
A At that time when I -- when we had started
our business on our own, I think she went back and
worked part time for a doctor that she used to work for
that -- when Lee was first born. Because she had left
the hospital and went for a private orthopedic guy.
Q All right. How was the decision -- how did
you come to the decision to move to Florida?
A With the business not doing as well, my
parents were here now full time, Cindy's parents were
down here full time, just -- we had been so close to
them, we figured the children are young; why not make
the move.
Q Right.
A Plus we loved Florida, and we loved the
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weather, and why not make the move.
Q At that point that you moved down, I believe
I recall Cindy's parents were in -- living in Mount
Dora?
A Yes.
Q Your parents, were they in Fort Myers then,
too?
A Fort Myers. Yes.
Q And so you decided -- why -- how did you pick
Orlando?
A Just the job opportunities seemed a little
bit better here in the Greater Orlando area than
anyplace else in Florida.
Q Now, when the business was not doing well up
there, did you consider going back into law
enforcement?
A I had went through a process with the Orlando
Police Department down here. Yes.
Q Oh, so when you came down here?
A Yes.
Q Oh, okay. Tell me about that.
A I went through an interview process. As a
matter of fact, I went through one day of what we
consider a one-on-one with -- I can't remember some of
the gentlemen's name that were here. But I was down at
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the Orlando Police Department, and they were interested
in hiring me.
Yeah. And what happened with that?
A When Cindy found out about it, she was not
impressed.
Q Oh, okay. So --
A Because she -- number one, she saw what it
did to me for the years that I did it. It takes a lot
out of a family because you don't really --
Q S u r e .
A -- realize sometimes that might be your last
time you're coming home.
Q Right. So your initial inquiries Cindy
didn't know about?
A No. She did not. I mean, she knew that I --
I tried first for, like, a civilian position.
Q O k a y .
A Had nothing available. And when I sat down
and talked with the one interviewee or a gentleman I
was talking to, he said: My gosh. He said: You've
got all this experience. He said: You've been out of
it a few years, but that shouldn't be a problem to
bring you on.
Q R i g h t .
A And that's when they were looking through --
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we talked about auto theft and things like that.
Q Yeah.
A I was tempted.
Q Okay. But Cindy -- between the two of you,
you decided it was --
A Well, between the two of us, we thought it
wasn't the right thing to do. I got out of it for a
certain reason, and I should stay with that and go into
the regular work sector and just try to find something
that would be better for us as a family.
Q Now, when you came down from Ohio, did either
one of you have a job set up before you got here?
A Cindy had had some inquiries for, I think,
the Jewett Orthopedic Clinic where she had got hired
at. There were some -- if I remember correctly, that's
something that she was checking into.
Q O k a y .
A But as far as -- I can't remember exactly.
Q Okay. I guess what I'm getting at is, when
you came here, did you have a pretty good feeling that
Cindy would be able to get something?
A Oh, I knew Cindy would find something
probably a little bit quicker than I would. Yes.
Q And you were still trying to figure out what
you wanted to do --
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A Yes.
Q -- basically?
Okay. So you come down. Did you all own a
house in Ohio?
A Yes. We did.
Q Okay. So I assume you had to sell your
house?
A As a matter of fact, we gave the house back
to the bank, as a matter of fact.
Q Oh, okay.
A Because when my business was failing, we
decided that we couldn't make two ends meet. We
couldn't afford two things, and I'm not sure if she
told you or not, but we filed bankruptcy back in 1990.
Q I think I heard that. We didn't talk to her
about that. But was that up in Ohio or --
A It was up in Ohio.
Q In Ohio?
A Yes.
Q All right. Now, did you file before you left
Ohio and then completed it in '90? Because you said
you moved down in '89.
A Yes. We filed, I think it was probably in
August or September of '89 and it didn't come until
January of 1990 that everything was finalized.
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Q And that was, I assume, personal Chapter 11
bankruptcy?
A Uh-huh. It was personal. Yes.
Q Okay. So when you were down here, did you
initially buy a house or rent a house?
A Cindy had purchased the house. As a matter
of fact, it was an assumable mortgage.
Q Now --
A The same house we live in right now.
Q -- did she declare bankruptcy, or just you?
A We did it together.
Q Together. Okay. But she -- and she was
still able to --
A Uh-huh.
Q -- to get a place down here?
A Yes.
Q All right. Did you all -- and it's still the
house you're in now?
A Yes.
Q Okay. So I want to talk a little bit about
Ohio. How old was Casey when you all left Ohio? A
Just about three years old.
Q Anything at all unusual or difficult about
Casey's birth or her infancy or those first three years
in Ohio?
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A No. She was a very health, well-adjusted,
smart child.
Q No problems?
A No problems.
Q Any difficulty -- any prenatal issues with
Cindy when Casey was --
A No. As a matter of fact, Z remember Cindy
even stating to me that when Casey was born, she says
she -- she was so much easier -- easier delivery than
it was for Lee.
Q Yeah.
A Yeah. Was a lot easier.
Q What are your -- do you drink alcohol? A T
have an occasional beer, maybe a glass of
wine occasionally, but --
Q Back during the early years or the years in
Ohio during your marriage, you know, was alcohol a
frequent part of your social -- your socializing?
A No. Definitely not.
Q Just an occasional beer or maybe a glass of
wine?
A Just an occasional beer with a friend or
something like that. We'd go out maybe for dinner or
over someone's house.
Q Yeah.
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A We've never been someone who consumes --
Q Not big drinkers?
A No. We're not.
Q Okay. Same thing with Cindy?
A As a matter of fact -- yeah. Cindy has never
been one really to -- when I first met her and stuff
like that, no. We never have.
Q O k a y .
A She never has.
Q So there was no -- was there never any issue
about her drinking alcohol during her pregnancy or
anything like that?
A Absolutely not. That's definitely -- there
is definitely a no there. She definitely would not -did
not.
Q Did she -- has she ever smoked?
A No.
Q You?
A No.
Q Was there anything about her prenatal habits
that anybody expressed concern about? Anything about,
you know, you're doing this; you shouldn't be doing it?
A No. Cindy's weight was always in proportion
of what the doctor had told her about, the pediatrician
at the time. Everything was fine. I mean, she was a
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very healthy woman. She's -- pregnancy always went to
term.
Q Okay.
A She gained the acceptable amount of weight,
and everything was fine.
Q And the birth was just natural?
A Uh-huh.
Q Not a C-section or anything like that?
A No. Both natural for both children.
Q Okay. And how long was Casey in the hospital
before they sent her home after she was born?
A Two or three days. It wasn't very long at
all.
Q Okay. Pretty quick?
A Uh-huh.
Q All right. So at the time that you left
Ohio, Lee was -- Lee was already in school; correct?
A Yes.
Q Okay. Any difficulties with him in uprooting
him and moving him down?
A No. Because he was a little over five years
old at the -- or almost six years old at the time and
-- no. He was very well adjusted, very easy.
Q So he had just pretty much just started
school?
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A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. All right. So you get down to
Florida. How quickly did Cindy go to work once you
actually moved down here?
A If I'm not mistaken, I think she started in
November of 1989.
Q Okay. So pretty quickly once you moved down?
A Within a couple months that we were here.
Yes.
Q How about you? How quickly after your moving
here did you start working?
A December of '89.
Q All right. So you both got hooked up pretty
quickly --
A Uh-huh.
Q -- with jobs? That's good. So you get down
here, and it's in the -- sort of in the middle of a
school year. Did Lee start right into school?
A Yes. He started right in school. As a
matter of fact, Pinar Elementary it was called at the
time.
Q Right. And that's before they built the one
that's closer to your house?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. All right. So kind of -- what were
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you doing -- what was the first job you got when you
got down here?
A Well, for one day I worked for a Toyota
dealership. It's changed hands over the years. As a
matter of fact, it was called Jimmy Bryant Toyota --
Q I remember.
A -- at the corner of 436 and University. I
worked there for one day.
Q Yeah. Down -- I live off University, so I
know that place very well. Worked there for one day as
what? A salesman?
A As a sales associate. Yes, sir.
Q Okay. Didn't care for it?
A No. There were too many things that just
bothered me being there.
Q Okay. So you did that for one day, and where
did you go after that?
A I was fortunate enough for about a week after
that I was -- I got a job opportunity here at the
Centroplex or the Orlando Orena through the City of
Orlando. [Indicating]
Q Okay. Over there? You pointed that way.
It's that way. [Indicating] Doing what?
A I started as a senior security officer --
Q O k a y .
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A -- working at the Centroplex, the Orlando
Orena.
Q What were your responsibilities?
A Oh, besides basic foot patrol and also cart
patrol, just watching for patrons and also other
employees enter the complexes and generalities of just
security work, just --
Q Were you one of the guys I always feel sorry
for that can't watch the game?
A Well, when I was there for the three years
that I was there, I worked midnight shift.
Q Oh, okay.
A Very rarely I came in during a production
itself unless --
4 Okay.
A -- I was called in early, so --
Q I see. I always watch those games and think,
those poor guys, they have to look at me and not look
at the game. That stinks.
So working the midnight shift, were you a
supervisor?
A I didn't have that so-called designation.
But, yes, basically I was.
Q Okay.
A I was the gentleman who had the most
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experience than the other two or three gentlemen who
sometimes worked midnights together.
Q Now, did you work out of a central office and
then patrol, or were you always patrolling? Kind of
take me through how that worked.
A On the west side of the Orlando Orena where
the large entrance door and stuff is at, we have a
security office that was right there, or that was the
security offices right there. I was assigned to that
particular area, and when it was my turn to go do
patrols, either foot or cart patrol --
Q O k a y .
A So --
Q And you said you worked the midnight shift,
SO --
A Yes.
Q - - midnight to what? 7:00 or 8:00?
A Sometimes it could be 11:00 to 7:00. It
could be midnight to 8:00 a.m.
Q Okay. And during -- so during that time, you
were working that shift and Cindy was working a -- was
she working normal hours, what we would consider normal
hours?
A Yeah. She was working the day shift. Yes.
Q All right. How long did you two maintain
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that schedule where she would work days and you would
work nights?
A Wow. Many, many years.
Q Okay.
A As far as specific amount of years, I don't
know. But we always worked alternate shifts for the
children.
Q Okay.
A One of us could always be around for the
children either in the morning or in the evening, so --
Q All right. Then that brings up the next
question. Based on that schedule, how did you all work
taking care of the children? Kind of describe that to
me.
A Well, with me being on midnight turn or an
afternoon shift, whatever it might be, we just -- we
found a way to watch the children. I mean, it's --
when our son got to be a little bit older, in his teen
years, he basically would watch his sister.
Q O k a y .
A We had a next-door neighbor who maybe would
help out. You know, it was just --
Q So you were -- okay. I'm trying to just kind
of get -- sort of envision normal life in the early
'90s in the Anthony household. You're working
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midnights. She's working during the day. You come
home from work at 7:00. She leaves at 7:00. Is that
more or less -- was it more or less: Hi, Sweetie, have
a good day; and she would go to work --
A Sometimes, yes. Sometimes I would pick my
children up at where she worked, out at Jewett
Orthopedic Clinic, and I would --
Q Okay.
A -- bring the children home and stay with them
all day long until she got home in the evening, and
maybe get about three or four hours of sleep to go to
work.
Q That's a rough schedule.
A You've got to do what you've got to do.
Q That's the truth. That's the truth. So
sometimes she would actually take them to work if there
was a little overlap in your schedules and --
A Right. Now, if I could work an earlier
shift, I'd be home before she left, right, and I'd be
with the children. Got them off to school or whatever
it might be, so --
Q Right. And did you -- obviously when Casey
was pre-school, obviously there's no time for you to
catch a nap during the day. Once they started school,
did that change your schedule in any way? In other
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words, were you able to have more time?
A Oh, right. When I would come home from
midnight turn, sure. I would try to take -- lay down
for maybe two/three hours, something like that, go and
meet them after school, bring them home, or vice versa,
so --
Now, kind of take me through the progression
of -- let me preface. Having raised children, I know
that you start out holding your children very closely,
and as they get older, you loosen your grip. You
geographically let them go a little farther, you know.
A Uh-huh.
It starts out as the front yard. Then it's
the neighbor's yard. Then it's the neighborhood. Take
me through how progressively you kind of went through
the children as far as geographically how much freedom
they had.
A Well, our children were always in our
backyard. We have a fenced backyard. We never had any
neighbors behind us until about seven years ago. Our
children would always play with a certain amount of
kids within a -- probably within a half-a-block radius
of our home, and they basically played in this little
cul-de-sac area, which is, what 50 yards away from our
home. That's where it seemed like all the neighborhood
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kids would hang out, and they were always there.
Q Now, you said that until seven years ago
there was nobody behind your house. What was behind
your house before that?
A Just woods.
Q Just woods?
A Just woods.
Q Did the kids -- were the kids allowed to go
play in the woods as they got a little bit older?
A Definitely not. Definitely not.
Q Okay. So that was -- was there a gate that
went back from your back fence or whatever -- back
fence to the wooded area?
A No.
Q So there's no way to get through there -A
There is not.
Q -- except going around somewhere else? All
right. As the kids became pre-teens, were they allowed
a little bit broader freedom of where they could go?
A Oh, we would let them stay maybe at a
friend's house and stuff like that. They were involved
with athletics in school. They were both very involved
with basketball, track, you name it, stuff like that.
And when we got to know their friends and families,
yeah, they could stay an occasional night maybe at a
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friend's house or -- seemed like we had more of the
children staying at our house --
Q Y e a h .
A -- than anything else, so --
Q There's always one in the neighborhood.
A Yeah.
Q Now, going to school, can you sort of -- when
Casey, let's say, would 'have been in kindergarten, how
would she get to school?
A I would either walk her to school because it
was Hidden Oaks Elementary, which is at the end of our
street.
Q Right.
A And I think it wasn't until maybe she was in
third or fourth grade she started actually to bike to
school.
Q Okay. So between kindergarten and third
grade, did you always walk her or were you allowed --
did you allow Lee to walk her sometimes or --
A Lee would sometimes walk her. I would
primarily be the one to walk her. There may be a
couple of friends could walk. It just --
Q Okay.
A You know, it just depended.
Q I didn't know if there was a specific --
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because some parents, you know, have the -- take the
position, I'm always going to walk my child to school.
Some do/some don't. So that's why I'm asking.
A No. It just depends.
Q Okay.
A I think when children get to be a little bit
older sometimes, you know, they don't want mom and dad
around as much.
Q Exactly.
A You know, it's --
Q Y e a h .
A But we always knew the friends that they were
with. Always knew them.
Q And how about coming home after school? At
about what age was Casey allowed to do that without
being escorted by you?
A Probably maybe fourth grade possibly. But I
would always wait at the end of the street.
Q O k a y .
A I mean, I might not meet her at the fence or
the gated area where the school is at, but I'd wait at
the end of the street.
Q O k a y .
A I did.
Q And -- well, I thought you said she started
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riding her bike at third grade.
A It was probably towards the end of third --
Q Okay. Somewhere in there.
A -- but closer to fourth. Right
Q Okay. Did there come a time when you would
not wait at the corner and just be at home and trust
her to --
A Very rarely. Maybe one day a week, if that.
Q O k a y .
A I was always probably at the end of the
street --
Q Y e a h .
A -- waiting for her.
Q Did there come an age when she got old enough
where you didn't feel you needed to stand at the corner
any more and let her just, you know, make her way
around the -- you know, down the street back to home?
A Probably after she went to middle school.
Q Okay. And how did she get to middle school?
A Walked with friends.
Q Okay. So it was also within walking
distance?
A Uh-huh.
Q She didn't ride a bike to --
A Liberty Middle School at the time? I don't
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remember her riding a bike to Liberty. I don't
remember that.
Q At that age, were you -- did she -- was she
allowed to just basically leave the house and then go
to school and come back without your either escorting
her, or waiting at the corner, or that dynamic?
A Oh, yeah. Because she was always good --
there's probably two or three friends that she would
walk with and we knew the families very well and they'd
always leave at a specific time and I always knew what
time they were coming home. So they were always good
with their times.
Q O k a y .
A Always good with it.
Q Did they -- were they allowed sometimes to
sort of come home to someone else's house as opposed to
yours, or was it always you've got to be here first,
check in before you go anywhere?
A It possibly could have been. But they would,
you know, either call or we would know that they'd be
at a particular friend's house or something like that
maybe right after school. Yeah. We would know that.
That would be arranged or we knew that they would be
there.
Q Did there come a point in time -- now, we
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talked about the early years where you were working
midnights. Did there come a point in time when that
changed to where maybe you're working afternoons as
opposed to midnights or -- take me through the
vocational part of that.
A Sometimes it could be daytime, could be
afternoons. I mean, it's -- you know, schedules
change, responsibilities change.
Q Okay. So from time to time over the years
how long did you work for the Centroplex? That's
probably a good question.
A Just a little over three years.
Q Three years? After Centroplex, where did you
go?
A I went and worked for a rental car company
called Snappy Car Rental.
Q And what did you do for them?
A I was a district sales representative for
them.
Q What did that entail?
A That entailed going out and seeking new
business from insurance adjusters, body-shop managers
and things like that. People involved in an accident,
car broke down, they needed a vehicle, they would call
Snappy Car Rental. We would deliver a vehicle to them
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and/or pick them up and --
Q Was that a more normal business schedule,
more of a 9:00-to-5:00 thing as opposed to evenings and
midnights?
A Yeah. It was more 9:00 to 5:00. It could be
an occasional Saturday. But, yeah, I was home more at
nighttime. It was a little bit -- you know, the
children are a little bit older --
Q S u r e .
A -- more responsibilities and --
Q How old -- well, let's see. If you're at the
Centroplex for about three years, then that would mean
it was maybe '93-94 when you went with Snappy?
A Right around in there. And I think I left
during '96 or '97. I was there about four years. The
company went out of business and left Florida.
Q Oh. I think I remember Snappy being here. A
The white trucks with the green logo on them.
Q Yes. That's it. That's it. All right. So
at that point Casey would have been seven or eight?
A Well, when I left Snappy in '96-97, I think
she's about ten, maybe going on to eleven years old.
Q O l d .
A She was born in '86, from '96, so it would be
about ten years.
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Q You said when you left Snappy.
A Uh-huh.
Q I meant when you left the Centroplex to go
with Snappy. If that was about '93-94, she would have
been about seven-ish --
A Yeah. Seven or eight.
Q -- or something? Okay. All right. So that
-- at that point you would have probably been working a
more normal 9:00-to-5:00 schedule?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. And I assume that based on that,
similar to what you told me about monitoring her going
to school wouldn't have been possible because you would
have been at work. Do I -- am I --
A Yeah. That's possible. We just --
Q O k a y .
A We trusted friends and families --
Q S u r e .
A -- that she'd be walking to school with.
Same as our son.
Q R i g h t .
A He was in middle school the same time as she
was. You know, it's --
Q I mean, you just -- that wasn't meant as a
criticism. It's just that's how everybody else does
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it, too.
Okay. So from about '93-94, you said for
about three -- from '93-94 to '97 you were with Snappy?
A Right around in there.
Q Okay.
A Yes.
Q All right. And you said they eventually left
town. Was that why your employment terminated because
they just --
A Absolutely. When you go in one day and
they're no longer there, you're out of a job.
Q Oh, it was that quick?
A Yeah.
Q Walk in the door and --
A Try to get into the door that you were
assigned to, the one office you were assigned to and go
in there and your key doesn't fit.
Q Wow. And the phones are gone. Okay.
A Phones are gone, cars are gone.
Q All right. So what happened vocationally for
you after Snappy?
A Oh, was unemployed for some months. Was
fortunate enough to, you know, just get some little
jobs here and there. 1 was -- matter of fact, I was
unemployed, I think, for about five months and I was
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fortunate enough, just happened to be down at the
Orlando Sentinel one day and ran into a security
gentleman down there. And I said: Hey, are you guys
doing any hiring?
And he says: As a matter of fact, we are.
Q Most fortunate.
A And I think that was in September of '96 and
I started in November of 1996.
Q All right. And during this whole period of
time, is Cindy still employed, working and not having
the problems?
A Cindy has always been employed ever since
we've -- basically, except for the time that our
children were born, Cindy has worked. Yes.
Q Okay. So the Orlando Sentinel job, what was
that?
A I was hired as a security officer there,
working an afternoon shift.
Q Would -- afternoons being 3:00 to 11:00 or --
A As a matter of fact, it was 3:00 to 11:00.
Yes.
Q 3:00-to-11:00 shift. All right. And this is
1998?
A 6. 1996.
6. '96. All right. So Casey is about ten
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5 Q -- or working afternoons. All right. Just
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7 All right. So during these years -- let's
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12 Q Somewhere in there. Okay. Any problems with
13 Casey in elementary school?
14 A Definitely not.
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16 A She always was a good student.
17 Q No challenges that they told you needed to be
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20 Q What was her relationship to -- to you, first
21 of all? How was the relationship?
22 A Well, Casey and I were always close her
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as her being daddy's little girl, oh, most definitely.
Q Right. Okay.
A That's -- yeah. That's definite.
Q From descriptions we've heard from other
people, there was a dynamic that - which is normal for
families that, you know, one child gravitates more to
one parent, one to the other and that Lee really in
some sense gravitated more to his mother and Casey more
to you; is that kind of --
A That's a fair assumption. 1think that
happens to all families.
Q Right. Okay. So Casey is in middle school.
You're working for the Sentinel. How many years did
you work for the Sentinel?
A Nearly six years. As a matter of fact, about
2002.
Q Okay. So from two thousand -- from '96 to
2002, approximately. Which would cover Casey from
probably middle school even into high school?
A Uh-huh.
Q How was did you consistently work the
afternoon shift that you've described, 3:00 to 11:00?
A I was only a security officer at the Orlando
Sentinel in the security division for about 18 months.
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A There was a position opened up as a
circulation supervisor. I was fortunate enough because
of my -- I guess a sales background and other parts at
the -- one manager at the time in the circulation
division, him and I just became friends and I was
offered a position and went and did that for probably
nearly close to five years, four-and-a-half to five
years.
Q Okay. So most of your time was as a
circulation manager?
A Yes. Circulation supervisor, yes.
Q Supervisor. Excuse me. And is that
managing, like, home delivery?
A Home delivery. Also sometimes the business
aspect of it, but it mostly was home delivery.
Q Okay. And what was your work hours for that?
A Mostly would be late at night. Could be ten
to eleven o'clock at night until maybe noon the next
day.
Q Okay.
A Seven days a week.
Q Oh, seven days a week?
A Yeah.
Q That -- it must have been very difficult for
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mean, I got paid extremely well for what I did.
Q Yeah.
A I mean, just sometimes you'd maybe get a day
or two off together, but basically you're on call.
That's basically what it is.
Q Oh , o k ay .
A If someone doesn't show up to deliver their
route, you've got to deliver it, so --
Q And did that happen a lot, where you had to
actually end up delivering somebody's route?
A Oh, yeah. You could be in Daytona one day
delivering routes. You could be in Kissimmee. You
could be --
Q Y e a h .
A You could deliver two or three routes in an
eight/twelve-hour period. Yeah.
Q So coming into 2002, Casey would have been
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Q -- entering those teenage years. Tell me
about Casey entering puberty. Everybody changes when
they enter puberty. Kind of tell me about Casey.
A Oh, my gosh. She still was extremely
energetic, always still smart, very outgoing. I mean,
she's -- I've always brought up to my children to be
not followers but leaders. Always be strong. Always
have an opinion. Stick with it. Be strong. I mean,
have people respect you as being a leader. I mean, put
yourself out there. Don't --
Q Y e a h .
A Don't go along with the few because the few
could be -- something could be wrong, but be your
ownself.
Q How did her relationship with you change as
she entered puberty?
A Oh, I think she didn't want to quote/quote,
hang around with dad again. She didn't want to go and
maybe go to Dunkin' Donuts and get a donut like we used
to do or just little things. She didn't want to hang
out with dad as much as she did because she had her
friends and --
Q R i g h t .
A -- she had a lot of other things that she was
involved with at school as far as athletics and things,
running track, volleyball.
Q How about with mom? How did that
relationship change?
A Oh, Cindy and her have always been -- I think
they -- Cindy and her are probably best friends.
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Q So there was no strife between them during
those --
A Not that I can ever remember.
Q -- early years?
A I mean, I think normal mother/daughter-type
things. There might be a difference of opinion or
something. But as far as --
Q R i g h t .
A -- anything bad, no.
Q What's the worst punishment that you remember
Casey ever getting as a -- in that sort of pre-teen-to-
teenage age? Worst punishment she ever got?
A [Pause] Maybe got told she couldn't go
somewhere for a week or something like that. I mean,
Q Grounded, like?
A Grounded. I mean, just telling her you're
not going nowhere for a week or no phone no computer-
type stuff or anything like that, but --
Q For what -- for doing what?
A Maybe just not completing her school work at
the time or something. It was probably something just
minor. I mean, I remember going through the same thing
with my parents. If I did something that I was
obligated to do, if I didn't do it, I --
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A was grounded for whatever reason.
Q And that's why I ask it because I don't think
there's a teenager in the world that hasn't gone
through that, including me.
A Yeah.
Q But you don't remember any specifics as to
what she may have done?
A No. Not really. Not anything specific, no.
Q Okay.
A I don't remember.
Q The dynamic in your house as far as
discipline went, there's sort of -- there's two
extremes of a family relationship. There's the wait
until your father gets home and the father is the one
that dishes out the discipline. And then there's the,
you know, mom is the one I'm scared of; dad is the one
I go to for comfort.
Kind of give me an idea of the dynamic of
your family as far as that discipline issue goes.
A Well, I mean, naturally it would be, well,
wait until your dad gets home, we'll talk, or something
like that, and we would talk through our situation. I
mean, it was never one -- one parent maybe dishing out
a discipline out more than the other. It was something
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we agreed upon or something like that.
I mean, our children were never struck when
they were small or anything like that because we always
had a way to communicate with them. We could converse
with them, sit down and talk to them like adults. Our
children never went through the babies-type things where
they would do the ga-ga and the goo-goo-type stuff. It
was always a good communication with our children. It
always has been.
Q So you never -- you all never used any kind
of corporal punishment with your children?
A No. I never raised my hand to my children at
all, never. Never would.
Q And you said that even as a child, you would
speak to them -- you said something about speaking to
them as adults.
A Right.
Q Explain that to me
A You would sit down and talk to them. I mean,
you would let them realize that there's -- there's ways
to get around something without raising your hand to a
child. You can -- you can communicate with a child and
let them understand what they did was wrong through -it
might be maybe staying out too late or not arriving at
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here. I mean, but --
Q S u r e .
A -- as far as doing anything to really hurt
the children, no. We just wanted them to realize that
you're responsible for yourself. You're responsible
for what happens.
Okay. But the -- but the dynamic was that
the punishment was to talk it out --
A Uh-huh.
Q -- and at worst, to lose a privilege?
A Uh-huh. To lose a privilege. To lose--
maybe not go anywhere for, like I said, a week or
something like that or take away the computer or just
let them know they can't see these friends or they
can't go to this particular party or --
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A Well, they could try, but it wouldn't work.
Q O k a y .
A It was already set in stone and that was it.
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A And Cindy and I would stay together on it.
We never, one -- we never played against each other.
Q Okay. All right. So what happened to the
Sentinel job? What led you to leave that job?
A Well, I don't know if you
remember. In 9/11,
when stuff happened in New York -- Chicago Tribune
is the one who owns the Orlando Sentinel.
Q R i g h t .
A They went through a trying period through the
first -- through when 9/11 happened, a lot of loss
of revenue. And revenue was never based on the
number of papers that are sold. Revenue is always
based on advertising.
Q Sure.
A And if you remember correctly, there was a
lot of advertising that was lost back in those
times. And I don't think it's ever really recovered
from that. Plus, also the Orlando Sentinel, like a
lot of other
so-called newspapers, they don't sell like they
used to. They don't sell their 400,000 subscriptions,
stuff like that.
Q Absolutely.
A They're lucky if they sell a hundred thousand
now because everything can be got from the Internet.
Q Right. Right. So did you -- was your
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department eliminated? Were you laid off? Did
you just see the future and go?
A To say that we were downsized, that's -- I
guess that's about the nicest way to say it.
Q O k a y .
A From the 11 or 12 of us that were in that
particular division, when they cut it down to
almost five or six.
Q And you just got --
A And I was -- I got a chance to be what they
consider an advertising courier at the time.
That lasted probably about less than a year and
--
Q W h a t - -
A -- then they started eliminating positions
within the company, which they're still doing now
to this date.
Q R i g h t .
A And it's just -- you know, it's a sign of the
times.
Q Sure. What was an advertising courier? What
is -- what's that?
A Advertising courier, you take the advertising
layouts. You take them to the different --
Q Companies for --
A -- dealerships or whatever it might be and
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they would look over their proof. And if they decided
they wanted to keep that -- or you could deliver
booklets, whatever it might be.
Q Yeah. All right. Now, and you said that
lasted for about a year?
A And I think that was going through about the
middle of 2002 is when myself, and I think there was
147 or 148 of us were given the old proverbial pink
slips and a couple weeks' severance pay and --
Q Have a good life.
A Yeah.
Okay. So how did you -- where did you pick
up after that?
A Just some small security jobs here and there.
Just did a bunch of different things for about a couple
years.
Q Okay. When was it you started working more
full time, if you will, for one company or when you got
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A In 2005 I was fortunate enough to get a
position with -- oh, my gosh -- a pest-control company
over on Goldenrod Road. Oh, my gosh. I'm blank for a
while there.
Q Yeah. I know what you're talking about.
can't remember the name either.
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for a few months. I got injured on the job.
Q Were you doing the actual in-home pest
control?
A Inside/outside.
Q Right. Okay.
A And I was in Winter Springs at the time and
-- it was Falcon Termite and Pest Control who I was
working for.
Q O k a y .
A And got injured on the job.
Q How did you get injured?
A I fell into an eight-foot-deep hole and
completely shredded all the ligaments and tendons in my
right knee, completely just wiped my whole knee out.
Q And did you go on Workmen's Comp at that
point?
A Uh-huh. Nearly two years.
Q Okay. Were they able to --
A Actually, I'm sorry. It wasn't two years.
It was probably about 18 months, again right around
that figure. It took me that long to get the okay
through Worker's Comp to get surgery. I had to get a
knee replacement.
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A It was that bad.
Q And did it eventually work out? Got the knee
replacement?
A Uh-huh.
Q Now -- now we're up to -- what year did you
get the knee replacement?
A In about 2006. I've had it for about three
or four years now.
Q All right.
A I could be off a few months, but I'm just --
maybe, like, four years, something like that.
Q And so when was it you would have gone out on
disability?
A 2005, middle of -- right around in there.
Q Say sometime in '05?
A Yeah. It could have been 2004. I'm not
specific, but I know that's when this particular thing
happened. Right.
Q Now, during -- Casey's high school years
would have been what years? She graduated what year
from high school? Or, I'm sorry, finished high school.
I know there's a graduation issue. We'll talk about in
a minute.
But she was supposed to have graduated in?
A 2004. She would have been out five years
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2 Q '04. Okay. So she was there for '01-02,
3 '02-03, '03-04. That would have been her high-school
4 career, at least in -- not ninth-grade center, but --
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6 Q All right. Tell me about her high-school
7 career.
8 A Good student. I think she had fluctuations
9 as far as grades and stuff like any school kids did. I
10 mean, she always had a good amount of friends that she
11 hung with. She was very involved in athletics through
12 middle school and all through high school. Like I
13 said, she ran track, volleyball.
14 I mean, pretty good student. I mean, I know
15 she had some issues, you know, like her -- I mean, her
16 junior and senior year but, God, so did I.
17 Q And we know that she didn't graduate with her
18 class.
19 11 A Right.
20 Q Where did you find out about that there might
21 be an issue?
22 A I didn't find out about she wouldn't graduate
23 until two days prior to the graduation date.
24 Q What was your -- how did you find out?
25 A Getting a phone call from her guidance
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counselor at the time saying that Casey didn't have
enough credits to graduate. And we thought that was
just absurd because from what we knew, from what we
understood, from what we saw, she had more than enough
credits to graduate.
Q You said from what we saw and what we knew.
What are you referring to?
A Oh, from the grades and stuff that she
brought home. As a matter of fact, they sent stuff
home to us and we would always attend any kind of
functions at school to meet with her teacher or
guidance counselors, things like that. I mean, just
normal-type stuff at the beginning of the year, towards
the end of the year and was always told Casey was
always on target.
She was a good student. And we just felt
that was appalling when two days prior to her
graduating with her class, we get a call from her
guidance counselor saying that she was, I believe, a
quarter of a credit, or something like that, short of
an English grade.
Q When you say it was appalling, do you mean
the notice was appalling, the decision was appalling or
her not completing? What aspect was appalling?
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guardian and let them know that their child, the child
that they have right there, was short a credit. Why
would they let it go on from -- supposedly it happened
from her junior year to her senior.
Why would you wait a year for someone -- why
would you let that much time lapse before you can see a
problem? Why not help that child out or at least
contact that family and say, hey, she's here. She is
struggling. Or, we need this to graduate? We could
have done a lot of things within between her junior
year and senior year to help her accomplish what she
needed to accomplish.
Q Take me through your -- the conversation that
I assume must have happened with Casey as soon as you
got this notification. Kind of take me through that
conversation.
A To say exactly what I said to her, I don't
know. I was just -- I was not only upset with her, but
I was upset with the school system itself.
Q Sure.
A Why would Orange County, why would Colonial
High School let this happen to supposedly a good
student, someone who had a lot of character and a lot
of charisma and who was doing so well, why would they
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let this go? And I remember specifically she told me:
Well, dad, I thought it was going to work out, or they
told me I had all my grades.
Because she did stuff not only in school, but
also online, different things like that that she had
done. And she was told everything was fine.
Q Did they offer her a chance to, you know,
complete it in summer school and --
A As a matter of fact, they did. This Dr.
Mitchell, who was the -- I don't know if he's the
principal or the assistant principal of Colonial at the
time. And this guidance counselor -- I can't think of
his name off the top of my head right now. But they
said we could work through it. Casey could take some
summer-school programs. We want her still to walk with
her class.
Q Right.
A But she could have completed it, I guess, in
about five or six weeks and she would have got her
diploma.
Q Sure.
A They would have held it and gave it to her
after she completed that quarter of a -- yeah. It's a
quarter credit they considered it.
Q Okay. Why didn't that happen?
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A Because this Dr. Mitchell was headstrong in
saying: I'm sorry. She didn't complete this, she
could not walk with her class.
And I said: But you said that we could work
this out. Sign her up for it. We'll pay for it. She
could go through it.
He says: Well, I'm sorry. Due to
regulations within the Orange County School District, a
member student cannot walk with their class unless they
had certain -- I said: That's not what you told us on
the phone.
Because originally it was a phone
conversation, and finally we just went to the school --
Q Right.
A -- ourselves.
Q Well, I understand the walking-with-the-class
part. But why didn't she just go ahead and do the
summer school to get the diploma? Do you remember what
the reason for that was?
A I do know of a couple of times that she went
to class. Why she didn't complete it, I wish I knew.
I know we had signed her up twice to do it. I don't
know if it was a work regulation because she was
working two jobs at the time. So I'm not really sure
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A I can't speculate on what happened at this
point.
Q Summer of two thousand -- this would have
been summer '04 you're talking about. You said she was
working two jobs?
A Uh-huh.
Q Where was she working?
A She was working at -- up in University there
was an Anthony Pizzeria and also she worked right next
door to -- I can't think of the name.
Q The one up on University and Dean?
A Right near University and Dean. And there's
also a -- there was a dry cleaner right there. I think
it was called USA Dry Cleaning at the time.
Q Y e a h .
A She was working both jobs because she wanted
a car and, you know -- that's the only way our children
could ever get some money. They had to work for it,
SO --
Q Right. The car. I understand the car that
she ended up with was originally -- well, her first
car. What was her first car?
A Her first car was a 1989 Toyota Camry.
Q And when did she get that?
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A Oh, probably right around her junior year,
before her senior year. It was an old car of mine that
I had given to her.
Q Okay. So she got that in, like, '02-03,
somewhere in there?
A Probably '03. That would be in her junior
year.
And it was -- you said it was a car you had
had that you just gave to her?
A Uh-huh.
Did you actually sign the title over to her
or just --
A No. The title stayed in my name.
- - for her use?
A Just for her use.
Q For her use; okay. So you made a comment,
you know, if your kids wanted something, they had to
work for it. Obviously that car, she didn't.
A Well, if she wanted gas in it, she wanted
insurance --
Q O k a y .
A -- and things like that, she had to pay for
it. That's the way I was raised. I had to work for
everything.
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A We worked out some little deals with that. I
mean, she would give us money towards that. Yes.
Q Okay. Well, was she working in '02-03, in
her junior year?
A I think she was still working part time for
that Anthony's Pizzeria and also -- I mean, she worked
there for -- off and on for months. Whenever they
needed someone, she was -- she worked there from time
to time.
Q Okay. And you -- she would pay you money
towards her insurance?
A Yeah. It could be, like, $100 or something
like that. It wasn't very much at all.
Q Was it like a regular, you'll give us this
much a month, or sort of when you -- when you have it
kind of thing?
A Well, quarterly-type things. Yeah. She
would save her monies and stuff like that. She was
pretty good with it.
All right. So she -- you said she went
to work at Anthony's in the summer of '04 because she
wanted a car. I guess you meant wanted a different
car?
A Yeah. She would want a newer car. Right.
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1 Q Okay. And did there come a time when she
2 purchased or got Lee's car?
3 A I think that was in 2005 because that's when
4 our son got a new Mustang.
5 Q All right. Now, were you involved in any way
6 in the -- maybe negotiation is the wrong word, but the
7 arrangements for her to take over ownership of Lee's
8 car?
9 A No. That was worked out between here and
10 Lee. I didn't --
11 Q Now, Lee's car was, though it was considered
12 his car, was in your name or your wife's name?
13 A It's in both of our names. Are you talking
14 about the Pontiac Sunfire?
15 Q Yes.
16 A That's in both of our names. Yes.
17 Q Okay. So though it was Lee '.s car to dispose
18 of as he pleased; correct?
19 A Yeah. Pretty much so. Either he wanted to
20 trade it in or give it to his sister or sell it
21 outright, it was up to his decision.
22 Q Okay. And whatever he and Casey worked out,
23 you were not involved in that as far as her getting the
24 car?
25 A No. That was between brother and sister.
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Q Okay. Our understanding is that there was a
negotiation to purchase the car. In fact, the money
was never actually paid; is that -- did you know that?
A That's a possibility. I don't know.
Q You didn't know. All right. Okay. Now, so
we're into the summer and fall of 2004. What is Casey
doing during that period of time? She's not in school.
What is she doing?
A Looking fora job, you know, a lot of
different little things. I mean, as far as
specifically what she did 2004 to 2005 --
Q Now, are you having conversations with her
during this period of time about, you know, what are
you going to do, what are your plans, those kind of
things?
A Oh, absolutely. Want her to go back to
school, want her to get her diploma, I mean, I want to
see her advance herself. I mean, she had an
opportunity -- I remember seeing different letters that
were sent to her. Casey is very gifted with
photography. That is her passion. That's her thing.
And she had an opportunity to go to
California. There was a -- I can't remember the name
of the school. And also there was a school here in
Tampa that was interested in her.
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Q When you say interested in, what do you mean?
A For her to come and be a student, to advance
her photography career if that's what she wanted to do.
Q Now, we understand that at some point a
problem began with Casey taking things that weren't
hers. When was the first time that you remember
hearing about a problem with Casey taking money from
members of the family?
A (Pause) Wow. I don't really have a specific
year or date in mind. I --
Q Well, let me phrase the question like this:
Do you recall that being somewhat of an issue in high
school?
A I don't remember any issue in high school at
this point. I just -- I can't remember anything
specifically in high school.
Q Do you recall a situation where she, I guess,
wrote one of Lee's checks to herself? I thought that
was in high school. I could be mistaken about that.
Do you -- are you familiar with that incident?
A I don't remember when Lee had
specifically
got his first account through the bank. I don't
remember that stuff. Honestly, I don't. I don't
remember.
Q Well, when I tell you that there was an
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incident that that happened, did you know about that
incident already or is that --
A I remember something about there was a check
that had been signed, but I don't remember -- I don't
remember a date and time. That, I don't remember.
That, I don't.
Q Okay.
A If that is something that her and Lee worked
out, I'm not really sure. If she reimbursed him, I
don't know. I don't know.
Q Based on what you've told us about how you
raised Casey and Lee and what you've told us about
yourself, I sense that theft within the family would be
a matter of great disturbance to you, that that would
be something that would really bother you a lot
A That would be a concern. Absolutely.
think for any family. Yes.
Q Sure. That's why I'm asking about the Lee
issue. It strikes me that that's the kind of thing
that you would have been very, very disturbed about.
And do you recall being -- what, your reaction was the
first time you heard that Casey was -- had taken money
from her brother?
A I'm sure I probably asked, you know: Why --
how come, when you -- when if there's anything you ever
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need, all you do is ask for it. I mean, why would you
take something from your brother?
You know, again, you're going back some time.
I'm not sure when this exactly happened. I can't
remember.
I know.
A I do know that there was -- you know, there's
some tensions that can be involved whenever you take
something from a family member. Sure. That could
happen. But --
Q What was --
A -- for what it was for, the amount and all
that, I don't know. I don't remember.
Q Well, I'm just -- I'm more inquiring about
the emotions involved rather than the
details. AAnyone is going to be upset.
MR. BAEZ: I'm sorry. Did --
MR. ASHTON: Sure.
MR. BAEZ: I'm going to -- did he say he
didn't recall the incident?
MR. ASHTON: I think he said he kind of does.
But you tell me. I mean, I got the impression you
sort of do recall it.
THE WITNESS: I sort of do remember, but I
don't remember what it was -- when exactly the
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time frame was, what the amount was or -- I don't
remember all that. I know it did cause some
tension between a brother and a sister, but how
they worked it out, I don't remember. I don't
specifically remember.
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Q Did it cause some tension between -- between
Cindy and Casey or you and Casey, the fact that she had
taken money from her --
A I think it caused tension between all of us,
to be completely honest with you. Yeah.
What kind of -- I want to get a sense of how
that goes. In other words, you know, what happens?
Does somebody raise their voice? Does somebody -- I
want to get a sense of what goes on in the house when
something like that happens.
A I think to be -- to say to raise your voice,
I think, yeah. I think you probably do yell a little
bit. As far as what frequency, I'm not really sure
because I can't go back in time like that and say,
but --
Q Sure.
A Yeah. I think you get upset and probably
raise your voice and ask why, how come, for what reason
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Q Did she ever get -- well, let's move on a
little bit. There's -- there were other occasions when
Casey took money from you or your wife or used a credit
card as a way of taking money. When do you remember
that starting? In other words, how old was she when
she's -- this started to occur?
A [Pause] Maybe just right out of high school.
I'm not really specific. I'm -- probably going back to
that 2004-2005 year. I'm just -- I'm roughly guessing.
Q Okay.
A I'm roughly guessing.
Q There's one particular incident that comes to
mind which has to do with forging a deposit slip.
Explain to me that whole incident surrounding -- you
know the incident I'm talking about?
A If you can be more specific with me, I'd
appreciate that.
Q You had described in prior statements an
incident where some money had been taken and that Casey
claimed to have paid it back and showed you a deposit
slip that purported to be a deposit of a large amount
of money to your account but, in fact, it wasn't. Does
that sound familiar?
A If you're talking about the $4400 deposit, I
remember that very specifically.
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Q O k a y .
A Because I had had a 1980 -- 1999 Toyota Camry
that I had sold and I had put money in my wife's
account. And I'm not sure exactly what month that was
back there in 2007. [Pause) But monies that I put
into my wife's account, Cindy had paid some bills on.
And I know it was, like, the following -- probably
2008. I'm wild-guessing here now.
Q That's okay.
A I can't remember for sure. But I remember
when Casey supposedly was going to be paying monies
back to her mom, I saw a deposit slip for $4400 through
Bank of America. And when I saw it, I told Cindy, I
said: That is not an accurate deposit slip. That is
not.
To me it didn't look
Okay.
A -- specifically like it should be a deposit
because I know what a deposit slip looks like when you
go through the bank.
Q And is this something that Casey had
presented to you or your wife?
A She did not present it at all to me.
Q Okay.
A Cindy just had --
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2 A Cindy just had it.
3 Q And was that somehow related to money taken
4 from your wife through using her credit cards without
5 permission?
6 A That, I'm not really specific on. That, I
7 don't know. All I know is that --
8 Q Okay.
9 A -- Casey had mentioned to us that she was
10 going -- there was bills and stuff she was going to
11 reimburse us on or pay back and that was a specific
12 amount that she had waited for months for her employer
13 at the time to pay us back with.
14 Q But you determined that -- did you ever
15 determine that that was, in fact, a legitimate deposit
16 slip? Was that deposit actually made?
17 A It was not. It was never made.
18 Q The deposit was never made?
19 A It was never made.
20 Q Okay. What type of difficulty in the family
21 was that creating?
22 A A huge amount of difficulty. Because when
23 you're paying your bills -- as a matter of fact, this
24 was Cindy's account, her Bank of America account.
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sudden you start getting notices that this money was
not in your account --
Q R i g h t .
A -- you have insufficient funds. So, I
mean --
Q Sure.
A -- it causes a situation that, if you don't
have the money to pay something, how are you going to
pay it? I mean, you can't just pay something with air.
Q Of course.
A It has to be sufficient amount of funds. And
that was out of a deposit in Cindy's account, which
was --
Q And you're -- at this point was your family
in a position where you had a lot of excess funds that
you could --
A We've never had a lot of excess funds.
Q -- do that?
A Through all the years we've been married, no.
Q But what -- I'm more concerned about how that
dynamic affected the relationship between Cindy and
Casey.
A Oh, it hurt their relationship quite a bit.
I mean, it caused some concern, you know, for -- for I
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know both of them and for me also. Like, if you don't
have something, why say you'd have something if you
don't have it? Why put something in someone's
supposedly account if you don't have it? If you don't
have it, just say you don't have it.
Q And what is Casey saying about all -- what is
Casey's part of these conversations?
A To tell you the truth, I didn't really
discuss it too much with her because I was just so
upset and I didn't want to get more involved. Whereas
Cindy says: George, I'll handle it. That's between
her and I.
And -- because, as a matter of fact, between
2006 to 2007, Cindy and I had some tough times where
her and I were separated and --
Q Right.
A -- things like that. So, I mean, I realize
that's another issue, but --
Q Yeah. We'll talk about that.
A But that was -- you know, that was just a
tough amount of time right there for her and Cindy, I
guess, to reconnect, I guess, through that.
Q Would you agree with me that trust is vitally
important in a family?
A Oh, absolutely.
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Q What did Casey do to win her mother's trust
-- well, did Casey ever win her mother's trust back
after that?
A I believe she's always tried to work on her
mother's trust again. I think that's something they've
always tried to work very hard with through this one
incident that I can remember.
Q What did Casey ever do to try and win that
trust back?
A Saying that she was going to work harder,
supply more, be -- to be more responsible.
Q Did she actually increase her -- did she ever
pay that money back?
A As far as I know, no. As far as I know.
Q Did she, in fact --
A Excuse me.
Q -- start contributing more or anything like -
- well, did anything change?
A No. Not really. I mean, as a matter of
fact, I -- I just know there was some extra tension
between Casey and I, but as far as her and Cindy, Cindy
just says she'll work with her. She'll get through it
with her. I said: Okay.
Q Did Casey see how these problems were
affecting the family?
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A Oh, I'm sure she did. I mean, anyone would
-- they could see it. I mean, I would understand it if
would have done that to my family. I think I would
have been responsible enough to see that. Yes.
Q Now, this incident we're talking about right
now, the $4400 specifically, did that occur after
Caylee was born or before?
A Oh, that happened after Caylee was born.
Q After Caylee was born.
A Uh-huh.
Q Let's go backwards a little bit and talk
about Caylee and how she came to be and how you learned
that your daughter was pregnant. Kind of take me
through the progression of how you first either
suspected or learned that Casey was pregnant.
A I did not find out that I was going to be a
grandfather until May of 2005 -- April/May, right
around in there.
Q And Caylee was born what month?
A In August. August of 2005.
Q So pretty -- more than halfway through the
pregnancy?
A Yes.
Q And how did you learn?
A My wife and my daughter sitting me down in
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telling me that I was going to be a grandfather.
MR. ASHTON: What time is it?
MS. DRANE BURDICK: 11:30.
MR. BAEZ: 11:30.
MR. ASHTON: Oh, 11:30. My goodness. I was
going to offer you a break after an hour, but
we've been here for an hour-and-a-half.
THE WITNESS: I would rather keep on going,
truthfully.
MR. ASHTON: Okay. Well, we'll keep on going
until 12:00, and then we'll take a lunch break and
come back and finish up. If at any point you want
to take a couple of minutes --
THE WITNESS: I understand.
MR. ASHTON: -- feel free; okay? This is not
a -- this is not a marathon.
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Q Okay. What's your initial -- your first
thing out of your mouth when they tell you?
A Happiness. Tears of joy. A little bit of a
concern for my daughter being a single mom, how she was
going to try to raise this child on her own. Just, I
guess, a lot of general things, but just being so
thankful to be a grandfather. That is just -- you
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3 Q Sure.
4 A -- to say that I was higher than these clouds
5 right now, I was off the charts feeling so happy.
6 Q At that particular point, was Casey involved
7 with anyone?
8 A Not that I ever knew of. I -- I didn't know
9 anything about -- I mean, she had dated some different
10 people over the -- different gentlemen over the years
11 starting, like, her junior year of high school, but not
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13 Q The who's-the-father conversation, did that
14 occur at that time or did that occur at some later
15 time?
16 A That didn't occur specifically that day. It
17 didn't because -- I don't want to•say I wasn't
18 concerned. I was concerned --
19 Q Sure.
20 A -- but I didn't -- I was just so happy of
21 that moment, that day, that time, to be able to look
22 her in the eyes and tell her how happy I was.
23 Q Okay.
24 A You know, and I want her to take care of
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lot of great emotion.
Q Now, when did the -- did you have a
conversation with her about who the father was?
A Oh, we had talked about it probably the next
day or it could have even been later that day. I'm not
really specific on that time. But she just said:
Well, dad, she says, I -- she said: I believe it's
this one guy that I saw off and on.
And I said: Well, I'd like to be able to
meet the father.
Q S u r e .
A I really would. I'd like to know --
Q Naturally.
A -- know who it is. I mean, that's -- I'd
like to know who Caylee's dad is.
Q Right. And so what did she tell you about
this man?
A We would -- we would eventually meet him.
She says: Dad, she says, I just want to try to get
through this and I want to try to just stay on track
to, you know, have my daughter, your granddaughter be
born.
And I said: Okay.
I wasn't putting any pressure on her.
Because I know one thing about a pregnancy with a
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affect the child. And with Cindy being the nurse and
stuff that she is and different things we talked about,
we just said --
Q Yeah.
A -- let's just get her through this thing and
we'll eventually get into knowing who the father is. Q
So initially she didn't tell you who the
father was?
A Not for the first few days. It could have
been maybe a few days after that. It could have been the
following week, who she thought it was. And I just said:
Well, God, I'd like to meet this guy.
Q So who did she eventually tell you she
thought the father was?
A She told me that the father, she believed,
was a fellow by the name of Jesse Grund.
Q Okay. And at this point you had not met
Jesse?
A Never had met him.
Q And you, in fact, didn't even know he
existed at this particular point?
A Didn't know anything about him. No.
Q How soon after that did you meet Jesse?
A Not until Caylee was born.
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Q Did that bother you, that you didn't meet
him, you know --
A Not specifically, no. It didn't. Because it
-- like I said, I was trying to honor her wishes --
Q S u r e . A-- of being the mom that she was, the single
mom she was, not trying to cause her any emotional
distress because I wanted my granddaughter to be born
healthy. And, like I said, I know that if you put a
lot of extra pressure on an expectant mother, it can
affect the child. It can affect when the child is
born, a lot of other things. So --
Q S u r e . A-- I just -- I just let, it go until I said,
well, some day I'll get a chance to meet him, I hope.
So that was it.
Q Did you ever in your own mind debate whether
keeping Caylee was the best thing for Casey?
A Oh, definitely keeping Caylee. There was
never a doubt we'd keep that child.
Q Well, that was not totally the question.
A I mean -- you mean as far as her wanting to
not have the child?
Q As a father, did you ever in your own mind,
in your own thoughts, question whether for Casey
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keeping Caylee was the best thing?
A I knew it was the best thing.
Q Okay.
A I knew it was the best thing. It would be a
good thing for her to be a mom.
Q O k a y .
A And I never -- I never thought of anything
any differently for her not to have that child.
Q What -- in your mind, what was your role in
Caylee's life going to be? Right there at the beginning,
what did you envision your role being?
A Not only being her grandfather; just someone
who could help take care of her on a daily basis.
Q So you saw your role as a daily thing? In
other words, that she would live with you and you would be
in her life?
A As much as I possibly could. Oh, absolutely.
I never wanted her to grow up anywhere else except at our
home.
Q All right. And did you ever express that to
Casey?
A Oh, she knew it from day one, that I wanted
-- I wanted her daughter, my granddaughter to be there with
us because we could give nurturing. We could give so much
love and stuff right there at that house.
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Q Did your wife ever express to you any even
fleeting thoughts as to whether keeping Caylee was the
best thing for Casey?
A Cindy never expressed that to me at all. She
was just always thankful going to be a grandmother
and --
Q Did she ever express to you what she
perceived to be her role in Caylee's life? Sort of the
same thing I asked you about your thoughts, did she
ever express her thoughts?
A I know Cindy always said that she was
thankful to be a grandmother. She always wanted Casey
to be healthy and happy. And she wanted the same thing
for, you know, our grandchild. I mean, she was --
yeah. She was concerned about, you know, her health
and well-being and making sure the child was going to
be there with us. I mean, there was a lot of different
things. But as far as her being happy and -- my gosh,
again, that's off the charts.
Q Did Cindy express an expectation of a daily
role in Caylee's life as you have expressed your
expectation?
A No. Just to be there --
Q Okay.
A -- you know, to watch the child grow up,
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helping any way we could to make sure the child was
taken care of. Anything.
Q N o w - -
A Anything.
Q -- was there a practical discussion at all
about having the father take financial responsibility
for Caylee?
A We really didn't discuss that too much. I
mean, we just really didn't discuss all that too, too
much. I mean, if the father himself wanted to be more
involved with the child's life, I mean, great, fine,
terrific. As far as, like, a financial thing or
something like that, that was never an issue for us for
that.
Q So you never considered whether -- and you
assumed it was Jesse at this point; correct?
A Oh, absolutely. That's what I was --
Q Whether --
A I was told it could be Jesse's child.
Q Whether -- you never considered whether Jesse
should pay some support for --
A I never pursued that.
Q -- the child?
A Because, number one, Casey was an adult.
Casey could make that decision on her own, if she
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wanted to have Jesse in her life or to be --
Q Right.
A -- more responsible for -- you know, for the
child, for Caylee at the time.
Q But your anticipation was that financially
you and your wife would be offering substantial
support --
A Oh, absolutely.
Q -- for Caylee?
A I wouldn't kick my daughter out of the house
or --
Q Sure.
A -- kick her to the curb. I'd want to make
sure my granddaughter was taken care of. Absolutely.
If I had to work three jobs, I would have done it.
Q Let me go back and talk a little about your
-- how you were raised and your philosophy. Were you
raised with a philosophy of that there comes a point
when a child has to be self-sufficient? I know, you
know, in some households, you know, real traditional
ones, when you're out of high school, you're out of the
house, you know, that you have to stand on your own two
feet.
How were you raised in that regard?
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family, it was a responsibility of mine, number one, as
like I told you, to take over the family business some
day. I started working for my dad when I was eight
years old, cleaning cars, cleaning the offices,
whatever the case might be.
To say that when you reach a certain age
you're out on your own, stuff like that, my parents
were never specific with me with that. My obligation,
I think, with my children was when you get to be old
enough and there's certain things that you want, like a
car, you want to go out on dates, you want to have
money for things, you've go to work. You've got to
work. I just can't --
Q Right.
A -- provide. Number one is, Cindy and I have
never been financially at means, I guess to say,, where
we could just give, give, give. We want our kids to
have responsibilities, to appreciate stuff when it was
- when they had a chance to purchase their own --
Q Sure.
A -- pair of shoes, shirts, coat, whatever it
might be, something they could appreciate.
Q How old were you when you moved out of your
parents' house?
A Between the age of 19 and 20.
[Whereupon, Mr. George left the deposition room.]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q And how about your sisters? What -- did
any of them live with your parents into their, you know,
20s, or did they basically --
A Well, I can say I'm very -- I'm very happy
for my sisters, all three of them. They have never
actually had to work very hard. They've always been
basically work-at-home -- stay-at-home moms. There's only
one sister of mine, that's my sister, Cathy, who's seven
years younger than I am, she's the only one that actually
had a job --
Q O h , o k a y .
A -- per se, growing up because she did that on
her own.
Q Did your sisters basically -- I don't mean
this in any insulting way, but basically go from dad's
house to husband's house, that kind of dynamic?
A Right. They were fortunate enough to meet --
Q O k a y .
A -- gentlemen who could take care of them.
Q Okay.
A Which is --
Q Nothing wrong with that.
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A It's terrific.
Q Yeah.
A They're always -- they've always been well
taken care of, so -- financially and stuff like that,
so I'm happy for them.
Q So was it your -- you and Cindy's philosophy
that as long as the kids want to stay, they can stay?
A Absolutely.
Q Okay. All right.
A I never put a specific time table, like, on
my son or my daughter, when you reach this age, you're
out on your own. We never -- we never did that.
MR. ASHTON: Okay. All right. Keeping --
somebody keep an eye on the time for me. When it
gets to 12:00, we'll take a break. I don't want
anybody to miss lunch.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q All right. So -- where were we? There's one
incident I want to talk about that you reference in
some of your prior statements to law enforcement. It
has to do with Sports Authority, something about
something that happened at Sports Authority. Do you
know what I'm talking about?
A Uh-huh.
Q Explain to me what that incident is.
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A Well, the one incident that I can remember is
Casey had told us that she was working part time or
like an on-call basis for a company called Sports
Authority. It was based out in Waterford Lakes, which
is fairly close to our home. She was working there,
making some additional monies and stuff, not only for
herself but also for her daughter.
Q So this was after Caylee was born?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay.
A And I was just always concerned about the
hours she was putting in, you know, different things
like that. And I just -- I just wanted to know what
she was doing with some of her extra time. I just -not
that I was trying to pry so much into her private life,
but I just had feelings that things weren't just going
the way maybe they should have when she -- how can I
say this -- when she was supposed to be somewhere
and I found out she wasn't at that particular spot.
You know, they say with women, they call it intuition.
I think men --
Q Right.
A -- have intuition, too, sometimes. When
there was something I felt just wasn't adding up, I
just -- I guess the old detective mode came in and I
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Q All right.
A So I went to -- to take this a little bit
further, I went to Waterford Lakes, to Sports Authority
and wanted to know one day just - number one, if she
was there, great, terrific. I was going to be happy.
I was going to --
Q R i g h t .
A -- take her to lunch or whatever, stuff like
that.
Right.
[Whereupon, Mr. George returned to the
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THE WITNESS: I go in there and I didn't see
her. I asked a sales associate who was working at
a counter if Casey was there. This guy said:
Casey who?
And I said: Oh, my gosh. I says: Casey
Anthony. I said: She's about five-foot-one
inches tall, a very beautiful girl with brown
hair. That's my daughter. She's been working
here off and on.
And he said: I don't know.
I says: Well, is the manager here?
I thought, well, maybe she got transferred,
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MR. ASHTON: Sure.
THE WITNESS: -- this guy was new, or I --
I'm running on different thoughts in my head. And
I don't remember the manager's specific name, but
when I told him who I was, what I was there for,
he says: We have no Casey who works here at all.
And I said: Well, how long have you been
here?
I'm inquisiting them.
MR. ASHTON: Yeah.
THE WITNESS: He had been a manager, like,
for a year or something there. And I said, well,
and I brought up another gentleman's name, and I
says: Does he work here?
Well, I know who you're talking about, but he
doesn't work here specifically.
I'm like, okay. He escorted me back to the
break room where they had the schedule and stuff
at and there was probably, like, 25 or 30 names
back there. And he went through one by one and he
says: There's no Casey that works here. Could
she be going under another name?
And I says: No. Her name is Casey.
MR. ASHTON: Right. Right.
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THE WITNESS; And, again, I described to him
-- as a matter of fact, I even had a photo at the
time that I showed him and I said: This is her.
And he says: No.
said: What --
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Q What schedule did she claim that she was
working?
.A She'd be working, like, 10:00 in the morning
to 2:00 in the afternoon, could be 1:00 to 5:00, you
know, something like that. It was sort of sporadic.
It was just like a part-time position or on call.
Q What is it about that circumstance that made
you go to those lengths? In other words, there must
have been some precipitating event that made you say
I've got -- I've got to figure this out. What was that
precipitating event?
A Well, not to pry too much into my children's
private life, but when you don't see a paycheck or a
paystub, or you don't see certain things that just
don't add up in your mind, you've got to investigate a
little bit. You have to look into something --
Q S u r e .
A -- that just doesn't make too much sense.
Q When she would be working these supposed
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shifts, who would be taking care of Caylee?
A Caylee sometimes could be with myself, could
be with Cindy. I know Casey had a friend of hers by
the name of Lauren who would occasionally watch her.
Q Was this during the period when you also
believed that she was working at Universal?
A Could have been about the same time. Yes.
Q Was this during the period when she was
indicating that there was a nanny named Zanny, or was
this before that?
A This was a little before that. I didn't
really hear the name, Zanny, until probably about the
beginning of 2008, somewhere right around in there. I
never really heard the specific name of Zanny myself.
Q So you don't remember hearing about Zanny
until about sometime 2008ish?
A I'm going to take a wild -- not a wild guess,
but I'm going to say that's what I can best remember.
Yes.
Q I can imagine that your discoveries at Sports
Authority vexed you to some considerable extent. Would
that be a fair statement?
A That's a fair statement.
What did you do?
A Called my wife, Cindy, and I said: Well,
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she's not here.
She says: What are you doing? She says:
What are you doing checking up on our daughter?
I said: Because I need to. I need to find
out where she's at. I need to find out what's going
on, why she's supposed to be somewhere specifically and
why she's not there.
It's not that I was following her or anything
like that. It's just when -- like I just said, when --
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I was just --
Q Yeah. You had to know.
A I had to know.
Q And was Cindy supportive of that or was she
upset with you that --
A Oh, to say the word upset, yes. She was
upset with me to the point that she says: Well, why
are you following your daughter around? You know what
this is going to do to her? She's going to be
irritated.
I'm like: Well, you know something? She's
living at home with us. She has responsibilities.
She's supposed to have -- do certain things and I just
wanted to know what's going on. I think I have every
right to know what's -- what's -- you know, what's
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Q Did you discuss with Cindy confronting Casey
with what you had found?
A Oh, as a matter of fact, I did. I told
Cindy, I says: Well, I'm just going to -- I'm just
going to tell her I was there.
She says: No, George. I'll handle it.
And I says: No. I said: We're going to
handle it together.
And I remember Cindy and her and I sitting
down and Casey became very, very irritated with us as
to why I'm checking up on her.
And I said: I have every right to check up
on you. You live under our roof. You have certain
responsibilities and you have a daughter and I just
want to know what's going on.
Q What did she say?
A Dad, I'm handling it. Dad, I work there.
I said: Well, that's not according to this
guy.
So it was just a matter of going back and
forth. And finally I just said: You know, that's
fine. You know --
Q Did she ever admit that she didn't work
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A Never to me. She might have did to Cindy. I
just --
Q Did she ever give you any other explanation
other than just kept saying, despite all the evidence
you saw: I work there?
A That's what she said. And I just -- without
getting myself more upset or more irritated and trying
to cause more of a problem within my household, which
is, there was a lot of different issues going on,
but --
Q Right.
A -- this is -- that's --
Q During this conversation with Casey, what is
Cindy's attitude? Is she taking a side or is she just
standing off and doing nothing? What's --
A I mean, she's being very supportive of her
daughter, which I'm thankful for that. She's never not
supported Casey a hundred percent. I mean, I've tried
to be there a hundred percent for her, but --
Q I understand.
A -- you know, just certain times you just
question things. You just question things that just
don't make any sense.
Q So Cindy was not being supportive of your
position of kind of --
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Q -- trying to get to the bottom of this?
A Well, because number one is, Cindy and I were
still working on our relationship, which is still an
ongoing process every single day. And she just says:
George, I'll handle it. I'll take care of it.
And I'm, like --
Q Was this during the separation that this all
happened, or was this before or after?
A This was right after we had gotten back --
Q , After you had gotten back together.
A -- gotten back together. And it's -- like I
said, it's a work in progress every day, so --
MR. ASHTON: Sure. All relationships are. I
think probably a pretty good time to take a break; all
right? So we'll take a break.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: One o'clock?
MR. ASHTON: One -- what time is it now? MS.
DRANE BURDICK: It's 11:50.
MR. ASHTON: 11:50? One o'clock? 1:15? MR. BAEZ:
1:15 would be good.
MR. CONWAY: I've got a. delaying problem. I've got a
mediation with a pro-se plaintiff that was not -- I just
found out about.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: What time?
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MR. CONWAY: Supposed to be at one o'clock.
I can tell you it's going to last all of about a
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MR. ASHTON: Okay. So you want to just say
1:15?
MR. CONWAY: Yeah, if we can do that. That
way I can get this out of the way and calm down
afterwards.
[Whereupon, a recess was taken, after which the
following transpired:]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q All right, Mr. Anthony, we're back from our
lunch break. I want to -- we ended in talking about the
incident involving Sports Authority and your discussions
with your wife and your daughter about that.
I want to -- you indicated that when you first called your
wife, she said something to the effect of: Let me handle
it. I don't want to -- it will upset Casey; or something
like that. Is that -did I understand that correctly?
A That's pretty much the gist of our
conversation, what we had. Because she didn't want to, I
guess, get into a conversation with Casey about what I had
found out because she didn't know how Casey would
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take it from me out there checking up on her.
Q Can you give me a better understanding of
that dynamic; in other words, why your wife would be so
concerned about Casey being upset about this?
That's --
A I don't think she wanted to see Casey and I
get into a confrontation as far as us, you know, being
verbalizing against each other, you know, me just --
Q Okay.
A -- inquisitive, questioning her why she
was --
Q Sure.
A -- supposed to be there and she's not there.
I guess she was just trying to be like a mediator with
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Q Was that a common theme for Cindy, not
wanting there to be confrontation?
A I think any family doesn't want to see a
confrontation between -- I think Cindy was just trying to
just make everybody happy.
Q Okay.
A Keep everyone in check, just make sure
everyone is happy at the house.
Q Now, this was obviously at the -- you said
it was just after you had returned from the separation;
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correct?
A Within a few months after it, yes. Right
around there.
Q Okay. What I'm trying to -- the dynamic I'm
trying to understand is clearly you were not happy with
what Casey was doing as far as not being truthful and
those things.
A Uh-huh.
Q And I'm trying to understand the family
dynamic of why Cindy is not responding to your concerns
about what Casey is doing. In other words, why is it
so important that Casey is upset rather than anyone
else is upset in the family? I'm trying to understand
a little bit more about that. Can you kind of explain
to me how -- how that dynamic worked?
A All I can say is that Cindy probably just
wanted to keep everybody as happy as possible without
getting us -- probably too much in-fighting or
something like that. I guess because of us being
separated and just getting back together, I think she
just wanted to keep us together, trying to keep her and
I going on --
Q Sure.
A -- trying to keep us together instead of us,
you know, splitting even further apart.
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Q Sure. And that's understandable, that she
would want the two of -- she would be concerned about
the two of -- your relationships being torn.
A Well, because being married for all those
years, I mean --
Q S u r e .
A -- you can't just throw 20-plus years away
without --
Q R i g h t .
A -- some kind of repercussion. I mean, she
didn't want me to alienate myself from my daughter, from
my granddaughter, from my son or even any more even
from her that I did.
Q What I'm more concerned about is -- I can
understand the concern about losing you, but her comment
appears to be more of a concern about losing Casey. Did she
express concerns about, you know, if Casey were to be
upset, what she might do or that it would cause a schism?
Kind of give me an understanding of that.
A Well, I'm sure it would cause a point that,
you know, Casey could probably just say: Well, that's
it. You know, Caylee and I maybe are out of here.
I think she maybe was worried about maybe both
of them leaving or something like that because of
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me and I just said: Okay. We'll handle it your way
then. You know, we'll just -- because I didn't want to
see Casey or Caylee leave. I didn't want to do that.
Q S u r e .
A I didn't want to be the cause of them to
leave, so --
Q Of course not.
A -- just basically just said: Okay. We'll
deal with it your way then.
Q Did Cindy express not necessarily that
incident, but around that period of time, concerns
about a schism in the family and Casey and Caylee
leaving?
A She probably did. I can't remember something
specific. But, I mean, I know when Cindy and I
separated, the one thing she said was: If you want to
leave, that's fine. But Casey and Caylee are always
going to stay here.
You know, if I wanted to get up and just go,
you know, that was my decision. But, you know, she
just knew that where Casey was at and where Caylee was
at was their refuge, their home. Even though it was
still my home, but she just says: -
Q S u r e .
A -- they'll just stay here with me. She says:
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having a man around; which they proved that. They can
function pretty well without me, so --
Q Now, I know that you had indicated in prior
statements that you had made that your separation was
based on a multitude of things, some of them financial. But
you also indicated that part of it was based upon problems
with Casey. Does that -- do I correctly understand what
you said?
A Yeah. There was a little bit of a problem
there that caused some situation between Cindy and I.
Absolutely did.
Q O k a y .
A That caused a little bit of us getting away
because one of the things is that incident with Sports
Authority. I just -- I just wanted to know where she was
at and how --
Q S u r e .
A -- she was taking care of herself, how she
was being there as a responsible parent for her own
daughter. I mean, that's --
Q But that was after the separation.
A Uh-huh.
Q Tell -- I'm more curious about what the
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the separation. And what you just told me about, you
know, you can leave if you want, but Casey and Caylee
are not leaving, tell me what part of the dynamic was
part of the separation.
A Well, the dynamic of the separation I think
probably was financial. We had some financial issues
going back from me being unemployed different times
over the years and that can cause a severe --
Q Sure.
A -- handicap on families. Cindy is basically
-- I hate to say the word. She's basically been the
breadwinner of our home, but I guess the -- the roles
have reversed over the years. I mean, I've worked for
a certain amount of monies over the years. She has
always provided more than I've been able to provide,
which, good or bad or indifferent, I think that's a
testament to her because --
Q Sure.
A -- she's just -- I guess maybe she's put more
into the marriage or the relationship than I have, I
guess, over the years.
But to talk about her and Casey, she just
knew that I could always bounce back on my own with me.
I mean, I could always find something else for myself;
whereas, Casey being a single mom, having just Caylee,
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and Caylee being out on their own. So that's the
reason why she focused on them just staying at home,
being there, since Cindy --
Q Sure.
A -- could provide for herself and for Casey
and Caylee. I mean, for what she made and stuff like
that, she could provide for all three of them living in
that house alone.
Q Now, the -- but the context of the comment
seems to flow from that -- it seems to flow from
something like there's an issue about whether Casey
should stay or not. And your -- see what I'm saying?
Was there an issue --
MR. BAEZ: I'm going to object to the form of
your question. You're --
MS. DRANE BURDICK: Is that your objection,
as to form as opposed to an exception?
MR. BAEZ: Yeah. Can you rephrase the form?
I mean --
MR. ASHTON: No.
MR. BAEZ: You're telling him, like, what it
seems.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: You've lodged your
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MR. BAEZ: You're getting very profound
and you're --
MR. ASHTON: Is there a legal objection?
MR. BAEZ: You're stating your opinions on
a lot of things and I'd like for you to be
clear with your questions is what I -- was what
my objection is.
MR. ASHTON: Okay. That's noted.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Again, I want to know the context out of
which that comment that you quoted Cindy came
and that's what I'm trying to just --
A I --
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I'm getting at.
You indicated in your statement that
problems with Casey was partially responsible for the
separation. Describe for me the problems with Casey
that were part of the problem between you and Cindy.
A Well, I mean, if she's
not working or if --
let's put it this way. If she was not where she was
supposed to be at times that I checked up on her, I
mean, that caused a concern for us. And I just -- I
wanted to know where she was at. I wanted to know
how she was contributing to help us out, not only
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Q Okay.
A -- with other things that were going on in
our house. I mean, I just -- I was just concerned.
Q And this --
A I just felt she lived underneath the house
[sic]. She needed some responsibility and she needed
to help us and --
Q And this was before the separation?
A A little bit before, but mostly during the
separation. We were separated from October of 2007
until -- I'm sorry, 2005 until June of 2006. That's,
what, like an eight-month period. We separated shortly
after Caylee was born, about two months after Caylee
was born and --
Q Let's talk a little bit about that because
obviously bringing a child into a household is
stressful. Your concerns about Casey, as you've
expressed, being responsible, et cetera, those existed
even in those early months, from what you've told us?
A Oh, absolutely. I think any time you have a
single mom or even a single father who's bringing up a
child on their own, even though family is around them
constantly, there's concerns; yeah. You want to make
sure that they're taking care of that child any way you
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I mean, I can think when my children were
born. Heck, I worked two and three jobs at the time,
you know, to keep ends meet, to keep things coming in
because I felt that was my obligation.
Q Now, after Casey -- when Caylee was born, you
have described an incident that occurred involving who
the first person was to hold Caylee.
A Uh-huh.
Q You know what I'm talking about?
A Yes.
Okay. You indicate in your statements to
the
police on a number of occasions that that was, I
believe, you said frequently a cause for arguments or
came up in arguments. Let me -- I'm trying to think of
where the exact quote is. Do you understand what I'm
talking about?
A Oh, yeah. I don't think it was really
arguments. I think it was thrown up to maybe Cindy
and/or I when Caylee was first born. I remember that
time very, very well.
Q Tell me what -- when you say thrown up, tell
me what was said and what the context of that was.
A Oh, just that -- the day Caylee was born,
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placed and getting cleaned up and stuff like that, the
very first person that the aide or whatever it was, the
nursing assistant, was going to give Caylee to Casey,
but because Casey was getting stitched up and stuff
like that, the doctor said, no, that wasn't appropriate
at the moment because she needed to be still and stuff
like that. She handed her -- Caylee was handed to
Cindy.
Q Right.
A Naturally Cindy is not going to turn the
child away. Neither am I. And she opened up her arms.
She says: Oh my gosh, yeah. I'll hold my
granddaughter.
And I remember Casey did say: Well, geez,
you get a chance to hold my daughter before I do.
And I -- and to go forward just a little bit,
I know a couple of different occasions that when Caylee
would come to Cindy or I, she'd always say: Well, she
always goes to you first. You're like -- you're like
her mom or her dad.
Well, my gosh. You know, we lived with that
child every single day. You know, we loved that child
like -- I mean, she is ours. She's part of us. And I
think that just got to be -- maybe just Casey took it
to a point and she just said: Well, you know, she
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And I don't -- I think that maybe was the
wrong thing for her to say and -- but just what it was.
I mean, I guess I was not only her grandfather but, I
mean, I was the male figure in her life, same way Cindy
was an extension of Casey, you know, being an extra mom
because we spent all those hours together.
Q Sure.
A She woke up in the morning; she was there.
She went to bed at night; we were there. I mean,
just --
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A We were just like a second set of parents to
her.
Q I believe you used the phrase, and you may
have repeated this now, that Casey threw it up to
Cindy?
A Oh, yeah. A couple of different times she
did because of -- you know, you'd be there and your
grandchild would just come to you before her mom
sometimes. It wasn't it was expected to. It just --
Q Right.
A -- we just were there.
Q Well, what I'm getting at is, Casey threw it
up to your wife in a way -- in the form of a fight,
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A Well, I mean, just -- I think just her using
a different tone, maybe her just saying: Well, she
goes to you before she goes to me. You're like --
you're more like a mom to her sometimes.
That was never the case of us trying to
take --
Q And my question is not your intention, but
rather Casey's statement and how she said it.
A Yeah. I think she just said it sometimes,
probably not realizing what she said sometimes. I
think we all --
Q But she said it --
A -- sometimes do.
Q Sorry. Go ahead.
A • But I think we all -- sometimes we say things
without probably thinking what we're going to say. I
think it just sort of comes out. And one day she said:
I'm really sorry. I didn't mean it. It's just that it
seems like she goes to you guys so much.
Well, we're just -- we're just there. We're
just there all the time. It's -- you know, I mean,
just we're there.
Q Is it your testimony that she never said it
in an angry way?
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something, but there was never no threat, no
[indicating] type things like that. She said: Well, I
guess she comes to you.
I mean, it was nothing blurted out, nothing
that's --
Q Was that in the context of an argument
that she was having with Cindy; in other words, getting
into an argument, and she says oh, yeah, well -- you
know, I mean, that kind of thing?
A Yeah. Little -- maybe just some little
things like that. It just --
Q O k a y .
A No specific circumstance, just something that
could have just been said. And, you know, if you're in
the same room and you're in the same house, which our
house is not that large, you're going to hear things.
Q Right. And disagreements among family
members happen.
A Right.
Q But wouldn't you agree that you took from
that that at some level, Casey resented Cindy's -- the
closeness of Cindy's relationship to Caylee at some
level?
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don't think so. Because, number one, Cindy is a great
mom. She's a great grandmother. Casey is a great mom.
And I think when there's two or three women living
together, I think they just have little disagreements
on some stuff. I mean, how --
Q Well, describe some of those particular
disagreements.
A Maybe just a disagreement over maybe how
Caylee could have been sitting down and eating her
lunch or eating breakfast or something like that. You
know, why not give her cereal instead of just a bagel
and juice? You know, why not give her something -- but
Casey was a good provider. I mean, Casey was a good
provider for that child. I know that. I saw it.
Q You say that, but at the same time you also
have expressed that you were very concerned about her
being a responsible parent and a responsible person.
So explain to me how those two --
A Well, responsible as far as money-wise, as
far as bringing monies in and stuff like that in case
her daughter needed something. Besides Cindy being a
primary provider and me also providing when I could,
you know, we just wanted to make sure that she always
had the substantial things she's going to need.
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was in those, or little things like that, like shampoo
and stuff like that. You know, just little things that
Cindy and I went out and bought anyhow without thinking
about it.
But, you know, we just wanted to make sure
that she took care of her daughter, always had --
Q R i g h t .
A -- proper financial --
Q S u r e .
A -- parts that she could take care of her.
Q Well, the times -- the Sports Authority
incident we talked about and other incidences preceding
that, was it part of your concern that she was supposed
to be at work with someone else watching Caylee when,
in fact, she wasn't at work, so what was she doing if
she wasn't with her daughter? Was that an element of
that as well?
A As far as -- you mean as far as --
Q I can rephrase it. You basically told us --
A Yeah. That's -- you've got me confused for a
second here.
Q Sure. That's okay.
A Okay.
Q You basically told us that she was claiming
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to be at work and that, of course, Caylee was being
watched by either you or your wife or someone else --
A Right.
Q -- and, in fact, she wasn't at work. So
you're assumed to say that why aren't you taking care
of your daughter instead of being wherever; was that
also part of the arguments you had, was, you know, what
are you doing when you're supposed to be --
A A couple different times, yeah. But, I mean,
I never really --
Q Okay.
A -- threw that too much up to her because I
didn't want to upset, not only my wife that I'm trying
to stay with --
Q Sure.
A -- myself that I'm not trying to upset, and I
didn't want to upset Casey and/or Caylee. I didn't
want Caylee being brought up into a situation that she
would hear people screaming all the time. That's not
proper for a young child. Because she was a happy
child, very happy child, so --
Q I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure she was. All
right. So even after you came back from the
separation, you've described this incident with the
Sports Authority. Did you think she was working
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someplace during that period of time which -- now, are
we now in 2007? Is that when you came back, when you
moved back in?
A It was June of 2006 when I came back.
Q Oh, June '06.
A Yeah.
Q Okay.
A It was from October of '05 until June of '06.
Q So the Sports Authority incident is sometime
in early -- in late '06?
A Late '06, I think, the first part of '07. It
could have been right around in there.
Q Somewhere in there.
A Yeah. I'm not really --
Q Did -- were you under the impression at that
time that she was -- that Sports Authority was a second
job for Casey or that that was her primary job?
A I understood it as being a secondary job,
something for some supplemental income.
Q Okay. Where did you believe her primary
employment was?
A As far as I knew, it was -- she had went back
to Universal Studios, as far as I knew.
Q Okay. And was it your understanding that she
was employed by Universal or by a vendor of Universal?
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A A vendor of Universal. I think they have,
like, their subcontractors they had. She worked with
Kodak and I can't think of the other company that she
was working with. Yeah. They work inside the facility
itself --
Q R i g h t .
A -- as, like, subcontractors, so --
Q Okay. And that was your impression up until,
you know, summer of 2008. That's what you thought;
correct?
A Basically, yeah.
Q Okay.
A I did. I did. I really thought she was
employed this whole time. Yes.
Q But I think you said basically. I want to --
you did have concerns about that, based upon, you know,
things that you were seeing and not seeing, about
whether she was, in fact, employed. Would that be a
fair statement?
A That's sort of a fair statement. Because,
then again, we've got to go back to the part where I
went to Sports Authority and found out she wasn't
working there.
Q Sure.
A So I guess it all comes into another context
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there. Yes.
Q Did you attempt to investigate any of your
concerns about the job at Universal?
A Nope. I didn't bother with it any more
because number one is, it would have upset my wife.
Q Right.
A It's going to upset Cindy more and I didn't
want to alienate my family any more than it's already
been --
Q Sure.
A -- alienated at that point. I just said
okay, just basically let it go. Because I figured she
would work it out the best way she could or her and
Cindy would come to some kind of agreement. Because I
didn't want to disturb any more of my family that's
already been disturbed because --
Q I understand.
A I didn't want to.
Q You --
A To say that I gave up and just wanted to just
not see her, no. I wanted my daughter to work. I
wanted her to have responsibility.
Q Sure.
A But I didn't want any -- didn't want to cause
any more strife within my family. We went through
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enough for the last couple years.
Q So whatever concerns you had, you decided
just to say --
A That's it.
Q -- swallow it and let it go?
A Swallow it and let it go. Right. Even
though, you know, it could have -- it bothers me. It
bothered me inside and it still does a little bit to
this day. But, then again, I've got to think about my
marriage and some other stuff that --
Q I understand.
A -- means a lot to me.
Q I need to ask you just one question about the
note from Daytona; okay? Do you understand what I'm
talking about?
A [No response]
Q I say it that way and if you need a couple
minutes, I understand.
A That's a very disturbing time in my life
right there.
Q I understand it is. And that's why I only --
A No. I don't think you really understand how
disturbing that was for me. Did I want to do that?
No. But I felt I had to do that.
Q I understand. And I hesitate to bring it up,
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but I do need to ask you just about one thing because I
think it's related to what we've been talking about.
You said: I blame myself for her being gone.
You know, for months, as a matter of fact, for a year
or so I brought stuff up, only to be told not to be
negative.
Is that --
A That has to do with the jobs --
Q O k a y .
A -- and things like that. So, yeah. That --
Q O k a y .
A I guess that comes into a context of that.
Yeah. That's what that's about.
Q All right. I just -- I just -- I know it was
not something I want to discuss, but I just wanted to
make sure I understood that's -- that is what that's in
reference to. Okay.
A That's exactly what that's in reference to.
Yes.
MR. ASHTON: Okay.
MR. CONWAY: Let me know if you need a break.
MR. ASHTON: Yeah.
MR. CONWAY: Okay?
THE WITNESS: I'm okay.
MR. ASHTON: If you need a break, take a
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BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Okay. Do you recall an incident maybe when
Casey -- Caylee was an infant that has been relayed to
us by other family members where your wife said to
Caylee something like: Come to mama? In other words,
when she was first there, a slip of the tongue, and
said: Come to mama and then -- Cindy did and picked
her up?
A I never heard that.
Q That --
A I never heard Cindy as being considered --
Q O k a y .
A Caylee's mother or come to mama. I never
heard that.
Q And you never heard anybody mention that
maybe during an argument or something like that about
any of that?
A No.
Q Okay. Did you -- when did you first hear the
name, Zanny?
A Not until probably about the beginning of
2008. I mean, that's -- I'm pretty specific about
that. I'm pretty doggone positive.
Q Through -- now, so through 2007, again you've
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already told us, you believe that or you were told that
Casey was working at Universal or at Universal for a
vendor of some sorts?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. You need to answer yes because -A
Yes. I do. Yes.
Q -- a nod she may not get. Who did you think
was watching Caylee during -- let me rephrase that.
What hours did you think Casey worked at
Universal during 2007?
A She worked a sporadic number of hours. It
never was like a 9:00 to 5:00. It could be, like, 1:00
to 6:00, 1:00 to 5:00. She could be 4:00 to 10:00.
You know, it wasn't any specific schedule she was
always on.
Q Okay. And was there any way that she would
give you anything documenting her schedule? In other
words: Dad, this is where I'm working the next week so
you can plan around it and -- or was it just sort of,
oh, today I'm working these hours?
A I do remember one time a schedule being
placed on our refrigerator for -- when she was working
as a -- oh, my gosh, what was it considered? An event
planner, I think it was, she was considered at one
time. But the hours varied. Like I said, it was,
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like, the 1:00 to 6:00, the 3:00 to 8:00, or whatever
like that. But I only saw that maybe once or twice.
That's --
Q And would that have been after Caylee was
born?
A Oh, that was definitely after Caylee was
born. Most definitely.
Q And -- but aside from that, it was generally
sort of you would ask Casey what her schedule was or
she would tell you?
A Oh, right. She would basically --
Q O k a y .
A -- pretty much tell me. I'd say: What's
your hours this week?
I didn't like one aspect when she was -- when
she was working. I hated her being out late at night.
I hated that --
Q R i g h t .
A -- with a passion because of the distance
from Universal, from the park itself to our house. I
was always concerned about the late-night thing, so --
Q When she would work late like that, would you
wait up for her or just go to bed and know that she'd
make it okay?
A I would sometimes be in bed. Sometimes I was
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-- I would never actually sleep, but just sort of rest.
Q U h - h u h .
A You know, just like when my son was living at
home with us and stuff, I would just be -- soon as I
knew the garage door came up or I hear him come in
through our side garage door, you know, you feel
relieved. You know, your family is at home. Yeah.
Q So during those evening supposed work hours,
would you and you wife just watch -- let me rephrase
that. Were you working some evenings during that
period of time?
A I didn't start working any afternoon turns
until I think it was February 2008. One security
company I was working for I was working afternoon
shift.
Q All right. So on those evenings, you and
your wife would care for Caylee?
A Oh, absolutely. As a matter of fact, Cindy
was probably 99 percent of the time taking care of
Caylee at that point.
Q During 2007, how frequently do you recall
Caylee being cared for by someone other than you or
Cindy? Was it common, rare?
A I would say it would be rare. It wasn't too,
too often. I mean, she had one friend Lauren I know
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took care of Caylee from time to time and I think a
couple other of her friends. But it was people that we
knew. I mean, it was --
Q So during 2007, did you believe that Caylee -
- that Casey had a nanny that -- a regular nanny that
she paid?
A I never really heard the term, a nanny. I
always heard just a babysitter or someone was watching
Caylee. I never heard the word, nanny. I think that
was something somebody else put out there. I never
said nanny.
Q Oh. I'm just wondering if anyone else
referred to either someone by the occupation of nanny
or by the name. You already told us Zanny, no, but
that's --
A I always knew someone just was considered,
quote/quote, like a babysitter, so --
Q Okay. Now, you said you first believe you
heard -- let me start over again.
2007 -- T think I asked you this before. I'm
not sure that I got an answer to it -- how frequently
was it that she was watched by someone other than you
and Cindy? Very rare?
A It's rare. I don't want to say it was
continuous. It wouldn't be every single day. It would
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maybe be once or twice a week possibly.
Q Okay. Now, starting in 2008, in what context
do you hear the name, Zanny?
A I believe the first time I heard it was
probably like January or February of --
MS. LYON: Excuse me for a minute --
MR. ASHTON: Sure.
MS. LYON: -- Mr. Ashton, but I seem to have
lost the picture.
MR. ASHTON: Oh.
MS. LYON: There. You're back. Okay.
Sorry.
MR. ASHTON: Okay. That's all right.
MS. LYON: I don't know what it was doing.
MR. ASHTON: Okay. Go ahead.
MS. LYON: Excuse me for interrupting.
THE WITNESS: I really did not hear the name
Zanny until probably January or February 2008,
specifically Zanny.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q In what context would you have heard that?
A I can't remember if it was Cindy or if it was
Casey telling me that her -- someone that she had met
and this name was given to me as -- you know, as Zanny,
someone who was actually taking care of Caylee. That's
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about the best I can remember.
Q Now, would it be fair to say that Caylee's
well-being was, if not the most important thing in your
existence, close to it?
A Oh, absolutely. That was -- that was
probably my number-one priority, is making sure my
granddaughter was being adequately taken care of. That
was primary really.
Q Did you inquire about who this person was or
where they lived or any of that kind of information?
A I can remember asking one time where is she
at? She says: Well, dad, she lives here in Orlando.
And I said: Okay.
And that was pretty much it. I believed my
daughter, my granddaughter was being taken care of by
this person somewhere supposedly in Orlando. That's
about the best that I know.
Q Did you ever consider trying to probe more
deeply into who this person was, what their background
was, things like that?
A Nope. I never did because I trusted my
daughter with my granddaughter. She would find an
adequate someone that could take care of her. If I
couldn't be there or my wife couldn't, Casey would find
someone who was -- who would meet -- who I guess would
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meet our standards or would be -- would take care of
Caylee like their own.
Q Just so I'm clear, did anything that occurred
in the Sports Authority incident sort of dissuade you
from becoming a detective and investigating further
into the issue of who this person is and where they are
and that kind of thing?
A Nope. I never --
Q Never even considered it?
A Never considered it. No.
Q Did you ask Casey for a phone number for this
babysitter?
A I never did. I never personally did. No.
Q Did -- can you tell us a reason why you would
not have inquired for a phone number or a way to
contact her just in case of emergency?
A If I'm not mistaken, that information was
given to Cindy. As far as I know, Cindy had that
information, so --
Q What makes you think Cindy had that
information?
A Conversations between her and Casey, from
what I understand. I'm just going by what --
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Q O k a y .
A -- people that were -- where Caylee was at,
so -- did I personally have them? No. I never did.
Q Okay. But do you remember that conversation
specifically dealing with this Zanny person as opposed
to Lauren or someone else?
A Yeah. Like I said, I remember hearing the
name, Zanny, back in January/February of 2008.
remember that specifically.
Q Right. But do you specifically remember
overhearing a conversation in which Cindy indicated she
has Zanny's phone number as opposed to, you know --
A I don't remember as being specifically
Zanny's name. I don't remember that. As far as having
her number, no. I don't remember that.
Q All right. Okay. The week before you last
saw Caylee, my understanding is that your wife was off
on vacation; is that correct?
A She had taken the first week off of June
because it was her birthday.
Q Okay. First week of June. Was that -- that
was -- was that the week before Caylee disappeared?
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that. Because Cindy's birthday is June 5th.
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Q Okay. My impression, and I could be mistaken
about this, was that she was off for the entire period
' -- the entire week before and then that weekend,
Father's Day, and that that --
A Right. We were both off a week because we
thought it was the 9th of June instead of being the
15th last time that --
[Whereupon, Ms. Drane Burdick and Mr. Ashton
confer.]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q All right. I've just -- my calendar
expert has just filled me in on that. So the -- the
workweek preceding Father's Day, Cindy was working that
week; is that correct?
A [Pause]
MR. CONWAY: If you remember.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q If you remember. If you don't, that's fine.
A I know Cindy took some days off right around
her birthday. I do remember that. I don't know if she
had the exact week off, she took off so many days. But
I do know June 5th, I know she was off because that was
her birthday. I know that.
Did -- were you off the same week that she
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A No. I was working. My days off were Fridays
and Saturdays.
Q Did Cindy and Caylee spend a great deal of
time together during that time, as far as you know?
A As what I can best remember, oh, yes.
Absolutely.
Q And what was -- what was Casey doing during
that period of time?
A Presumably, again, working.
Q The weekend of Father's Day, can you kind of
describe to, me what you remember happening on that
weekend?
A Well, besides me work -- besides myself
working, I know Cindy was off on that Saturday and
Sunday. Because I had to work Sunday, I could not go
to see her father, who was up in a nursing home in
Mount Dora. I know it was a very, very happy day, not
only for me being the father and grandfather again, to
get some special homemade cards from my granddaughter
and daughter and I remember just what Cindy told me.
It was just really a great day to have Caylee
with her and seeing her dad. I mean, it meant a lot
because her dad's health had been up and down and she
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Q What hours did you work that day?
A Afternoon turn, 3:00 to 11:00.
Q And where was Casey?
A As far as I know, she possibly could have
been working. I'm not really, really sure. T don't
really specifically remember what she did on that day.
All I know is that Cindy and Caylee went up to see her
dad that day on Father's Day.
Q All right. When you arrived home from work
that night, who was there? This would be the night of
Father's Day.
A The best I can recall, I remember Cindy was
already in bed and Caylee was already asleep also.
don't remember if Caylee was there -- I mean, if Casey
was there or not. I don't remember.
Q When you say you know that Cindy and Caylee
were in bed, did you look in on Caylee?
A Oh, absolutely. Absolutely I did.
Q And now, where was she sleeping?
A I believe she was sleeping -- yeah. As a
matter of fact, she was sleeping in Casey's bed that
night.
Q Okay. And Casey -- you don't recall seeing
Casey there?
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A I don't remember her being there. No.
don't.
Q And was that normal for Caylee to sleep in
Casey's bed?
A Off and on. I mean, she probably slept with
Casey probably maybe five/six nights out of a week
possibly. We were just trying to get her used to
sleeping in her own little bed, the stuff that she had.
It was the crib that could be made into, like, a --
Q Daybed kind of thing?
A No. It wasn't a daybed. I forget what
exactly the terminology is called. But it was
something we were trying to get her used to --
Q R i g h t .
A -- sleeping in, so --
Q I know what you're talking about. But she
was in Casey's bed this occasion?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. Did you have any communication --
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MR. ASHTON: Can you hear us okay, Andrea?
Your face is frozen on our screen.
MR. BAEZ: She's got two faces.
MS. LYON: I can hear you. I can't see you.
I think I should hang up and call again.
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MR. ASHTON: You're a really fascinating
ghost on the screen right now. You should see
this. It's so spooky. Your face is moving on
your hair. Okay. Now you seem to be coming back
a bit.
MS. LYON: Yeah, but I'm not getting you at
all. So let me hang up and call again, if it's
okay.
MR. ASHTON: Okay. We'll go off the record
for a moment and we'll try and get you back in.
[Whereupon, there was an interruption in the
proceedings, after which the following
transpired:]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q All right. So the evening of Father's Day
you've described coming home. Did you do anything else
that night or just kind of go right to bed?
A I generally stay up, you know, for an hour or
two just trying to ease into the moment of getting --
you know, probably turned in maybe about 12:30, one
o'clock, something like that.
[Whereupon, Ms. Drane Burdick left the
deposition room.]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q And as far as you recall, did you see Casey
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A Like I said, I don't remember if she was
there or not. I don't -- I don't remember.
Q Okay. So the next morning, what time do you
get up?
A 6:30, seven o'clock in the morning. Pretty
religiously about that.
Q All right. Is that because your wife gets up
and goes to work and --
A Oh, between that, I'm just an early riser.
It's just I've always been that way. I remember that
day extremely well.
Q Sure.
A I remember being up and getting going.
Q The -- would you -- when you get up, is your
wife already gone or is she sort of in the process of
getting ready for her day?
A Well, Cindy is pretty much getting ready for
her day. Generally she doesn't leave until maybe 7:30,
eight o'clock in the morning, right around in there.
Q And as far as you can recall, did she leave
like normal --
A Absolutely.
Q -- that Monday?
A Yeah.
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Q All right. When you got up, do you ever -
do you go in and check on Caylee and Casey or just kind
of wait for them to wake up and --
A Sort of just wait for them to wake up. I
mean, I'm the typical guy. I guess I'm pretty -- as
you could probably set a clock by me. You know, I'd go
in and get my coffee and start my day out sort of that
way sometimes, so --
Q When -- do you recall approximately when you
first saw either Caylee or Casey that morning?
A I think Caylee got up probably about 7:30,
eight o'clock that morning. I know she saw Cindy just
before she left. And I know that her and I went out
and gave her some cereal, some juice and made some more
coffee and --
MR. ASHTON: I think we just lost Andrea.
Let's go off the record for a second.
[Whereupon, there was an interruption in the
proceedings, after which the following
transpired:]
MR. ASHTON: Okay. Back on the record.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q All right. Let me leave the 16th for a
moment and just take a break with some other things.
In your particular house, the garage, whose sort of
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area was that? I mean, who organized the garage?
Who was sort of the person in charge of what was out
there and knowing what was and what wasn't out
there, that kind of thing? Anybody or just
everybody?
A Everybody. I mean --
Q Okay.
A -- no one particular person put things in a
certain spot. We all sort of did that together.
Q Okay. Just seeing photographs of your
garage, it seems a thousand times more organized
than
mine is, so I thought there might have been
an organizational plan in mind there.
Let me show you a photograph of -- do
you recognize -- this is State's Exhibit 7. Do
you
recognize that as a photograph of your
garage? [Handing]
A [Examining] Uh-huh. That's my garage.
Yeah.
Q It's been represented to us that that's how
it appeared on December the 11th. Would that be -
does that seem accurate to you?
A Well, I can tell you one thing. Whenever we
leave our house, we did not leave things like that
on our washer and dryer. We always put stuff away.
Q Okay. So on the washing machine there
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appears to be a --
A And the. dryer. We don't leave stuff out like
that.
Q Okay. We're referencing there seems to be
some sort of a towel or a rug on --
A Uh-huh.
-- one of the machines and then some towels
on the other. Now, on this particular date of December
11th, my understanding is you had been out of the -out
of the county for a short while?
A Yes.
Q How long had you been gone?
A z think probably about two days.
Q Okay. And you were in California; is that
correct?
A Uh-huh.
Q Who was -- was anyone staying at the house
while you were gone?
A [Pause] My son was already gone. His
girlfriend was just coming and checking on our dogs --
Q O k a y .
A -- while we were gone.
So no one was actually living at the house
at
that time, but people would come over or -A
Right. Just, we had other jobs.
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Q Okay. Now, this particular photograph, the
-- the way the garage was set up, were there certain
areas where certain things were supposed to be kept?
A Absolutely. We tried to organize things and
make it easy for everyone to remember where things were
at. Yeah.
Q In State's Exhibit 7, the shelf immediately
above the washer/dryer, what was the purpose of that
shelf? What was supposed to be stored there?
A Well, besides the coolers we've got up there,
we also have some dog crates that we have up there.
Whenever we would, which was very rare for us to crate
our dog or something like that, we just used them. In
case we ever had hurricanes or something like that, we
knew to put the dogs inside there.
Q Now, those -- are those visible in the
photograph, or are they within something -- inside
something that's visible?
A I can see them right here inside the plastic
bag. There's a dog carrier right there, sticking out
right there. [Indicating]
Q Okay. So this is in the photograph State's
Exhibit 7. There -- on the top shelf there appear to
be some black plastic bags?
A Black plastic bags and we used those to keep
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crates and stuff we had up there.
Q And you indicated that you can kind of see -A
I can see it right there [indicating]. Yes.
Q -- a little brown spot there. That's part of
the dog carrier?
A It's plastic. Yes.
Q So would both of these plastic bags on the
right side of the shelf -- is it more than one dog
carrier?
A Uh-huh. There's two dog carriers. There's a
cat carrier.
Q And that should be in these bags; is that
correct?
A Uh-huh.
Q Now, what about the bag with the yellow tie
on it that's next to the cooler? What should be in
there?
A I'm just thinking it's probably all -- there
could be a couple bags there. I'm not really sure.
Q Okay. So you're not sure what would -- what
might be in that bag?
A I'm not really positive at this point; no.
Q Okay.
A I just -- I know what we used to keep up
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more so --
Q Do you recall putting anything in a black
plastic garbage bag with a yellow tie and putting it on
that shelf anytime in the -- let's say the latter part
of 2008?
A I probably could have. I'm not -- I don't
remember.
Q Okay. Let me show you State's Exhibit 8. Do
you recognize that item in State's Exhibit 8?
[Handing]
A I do not. I have a feeling -- it -- I don't
have no idea what exactly what it is. I really don't
know.
MR. ASHTON: Okay. Hello?
MS. LYON: Hi.
MR. ASHTON: Oh. Can you -- you've got us?
MS. LYON: I can hear, but I can't see
anything. Can you call again?
MR. ASHTON: Yeah. We could --
MS. LYON: I hit the wrong button is what
happened.
MR. ASHTON: You want us to call you or you
call us?
MS. LYON: You called me, but I can call you
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MR. BAEZ: Why don't you call back because --
MR. ASHTON: Okay. Hold on. Something else is
-- let's go off the record.
[Whereupon, there was an interruption in the
proceedings, after which the following
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MR. ASHTON: Back on the record.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q All right. I'm showing you State's Exhibit
8, and you indicated that from the photograph you don't
recognize that particular item?
A I have -- I have no idea what it is
Q Do you remember there being a container in
Caylee's room that was used to keep all of her stuffed
animals in, some sort of a white container?
A The only thing I remember that we kept
Caylee's, like, little bears and stuff in, it's hanging
up from her ceiling right now, and we have all of her
stuffed animals, just like a knitted-type, fishnet-type
thing. That's the only thing I can ever remember.
Q Okay. So you don't remember -- I think she
just put us on hold.
[Whereupon, there was an interruption in the
proceedings, after which the following
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MR. ASHTON: Okay. Andrea, if you can hear
us, we've just turned the phone off.
I think what happened is she put us on hold
and took another call, so that's her hold music.
MR. BAEZ: Oh, okay. Got it.
MR. ASHTON: Come on in. All right. Let's
go off the record.
(Whereupon, there was an interruption in the
proceedings, after which the following
transpired:]
MR. BAEZ: We're here.
MS. LYON: You've got me all right?
MR. BAEZ: Yes.
MR. ASHTON: All right. Let's go.
MS. LYON: I'm about to mute you.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Okay. All right. We were talking about
State's Exhibit 8, which you indicated you didn't
recognize. If State's Exhibit 8 was found in the bag
in this -- in State's Exhibit 7 next to the blue cooler
with the yellow ties, do you have any idea how it got
there?
A I have no idea.
Q Do you recall Caylee having a -- been given I
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think by a neighbor a little what I refer to as a ball
crawl? You know, those little things with all the
little plastic balls in it that kids crawl around in?
Do you remember that?
A Yeah. As a matter of fact, the purple one,
we got that from our next-door neighbor who was having
a garage sale.
Q Okay. And do you recall that at some point
you -- Cindy bought some extra balls for it?
A Yeah. I think we had an extra hundred or
something like that for it. Yeah.
Q Do you remember what they were kept in?
A As far as I know, like, a -- like a netting
bag, something that has, like, a tie on it or something
like that. I mean, it was something we could see
because we didn't want the balls to get any kind of
fungus or anything like that kind of stuff on it, so —
[Whereupon, Ms. Drane Burdick left the
deposition room.]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Do you remember any time Cindy buying and
using to store balls for that object a cylindrical
container that was like this, cloth on the outside and
rubberized on the inside, but it was a cylinder, not a
square? Does that sound familiar to you?
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A I don't remember that at all. No.
Q All right.
A I do not.
[Whereupon, Ms. Drane Burdick returned to the
deposition room.]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Let me show you the next photograph. Let me
show you State's Exhibit 3. Do you recognize what
that's a photograph of? [Handing]
A [Examining] It looks like a gas can.
Q Do you recognize it as being a gas can of
yours?
A Yes.
Q Okay. How long had you had that gas can?
A Gas can is probably a good part of 20 years
old.
Q Okay. Now, we're going to get to this
incident later, but was that one of the gas cans that
was involved in the incident on the 24th with Casey
taking the gas cans? Was that one of them?
A There was a gas can that was removed from my
shed. Yes.
Q Was it a cylindrical metal one like that?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. I mean, I don't know if this has
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MS. DRANE BURDICK: Yes or no?
MR. ASHTON: Oh, thank you.
THE WITNESS: Yes. I mean, this is the gas
can. It looks --
MR. ASHTON: Okay.
THE WITNESS: -- looks like the one that was
taken on the -- the one that I reported taken from
my shed.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Now, that gas can appears to have a piece of
duct tape on it. Do you recognize that?
A I didn't put the duct tape on there.
Q Do you recognize it, though?
A I recognize this can, but I didn't put that
duct tape on there. I wouldn't do a sloppy job like
that.
Q Okay. Have you ever seen that piece of duct
tape on that can before?
A Not this particular size, no. No, sir.
Q Have you seen that duct tape in a different
size?
A I put duct tape on there one time myself
because the plastic cap that was on there had broken
off. But when I did it, it was very methodical when I
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put it on there because it was very neat.
Q All right.
A I didn't do that right there [indicating].
Q You didn't do that.
A No. I didn't.
Q But that -- do you recognize -- let me start
over.
So at some point you say you had put a piece
of duct tape over the vent of that can; is that
correct?
A Uh-huh.
Q And --
MS. DRANE BURDICK: Yes or no?
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Yes or no? Sorry.
A Yes. I did. Yes.
MR. CONWAY: That's just because it comes
across on --
THE WITNESS: Okay. I'm sorry. I'll be
more --
MR. CONWAY: -- on the transcript --
THE WITNESS: -- specific with my yes or no.
Yes.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q That's okay. When would you have done that?
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A I don't know when I specifically did that,
but I know that I did it. Because whenever I put the
duct tape over that particular vent hole that you've
described or you told me about, I did it very neatly.
I would not have put something on there like this.
That's not my style.
Q What's not neat about it? And, again --
A It's too big. I wouldn't have done that.
Q Let me show you --
A I wouldn't have done that.
Q Let me show you State's Exhibit 1. It's a
closer view. So it's -- you said it's too large?
[Handing]
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay.
A I would not have done that.
Q But you do recall that particular can having
duct tape in that particular area; right?
A That would go over the vent; yes.
Q And do you recognize that duct tape that's on
that can?
A No. I mean, to me it's just duct tape. I
never looked at a particular brand or anything like
that. No. I never have.
Q So you -- are you indicating that you just
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don't remember if that's duct tape from your house?
A It could be from my house. It could not be
from my house. I'm not really -- I'm not really sure.
All I know is I did not put that on this can. And a
particular brand or something like that, I'm not sure
what I had. I know I had duct tape at my house, but
that right there, no. I don't recognize that.
Q This photograph was taken August 1st of 2008,
according to our records. When you got this can from
Casey on the 24th, did it have duct tape on it?
A Did not.
Q It did not.
A Did not.
Q Did it have duct tape on it the last time you
saw it before she took it?
A As far as I can remember, yes.
Q So it had duct tape and then when she brought
it back, it didn't?
A Yes.
Q So how did the duct tape get on it, do you
know?
A Your guess is as good as mine.
Q Okay. Well, after Casey gave it back to you,
what did you do with it on the 24th?
A Put it back in the shed --
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Q O k a y .
A -- where it was taken from.
Q And as far as you know, did it remain in that
shed until August 1st when the police officers
photographed it?
A Uh-huh.
MR. CONWAY: Yes?
THE WITNESS: Yes. Yes. I'm sorry. Yes.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q That's okay. Did you use that gas can
between the 24th and the 1st?
A No. I did not. I went out and bought new
cans.
Q Why did you do that?
A Because I needed to get gas for the lawnmower
and stuff that I had and I didn't have these in my
possession.
Q Oh, so did you get gas on the 24th, you're
saying or bought the gas cans on the 24th?
A I think a day or two after that. I went to
-- and purchased a couple new gas cans.
Q Okay. Casey brought the gas cans back on the
24th and you put them in the shed. Why did you go and
buy new ones of those were in the shed?
A Because I had purchased them just prior to
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that. When they were gone -- I didn't -- I did not see
my shed was broken into until the 24th.
Q Right.
A I had purchased cans prior to that, two
plastic cans I still have in my possession, Jeff.
Q Okay. But why did you buy them if you did
not yet know that these were missing?
A Okay. I'm going to be very, very blunt with
you. Don't try to confuse me.
Q I'm not trying to.
A Number one, I -- number one is, I did not put
this tape on this can, number one; okay?
Number two is, when I found out that my shed
had been broken into on the -- when I reported it on
the 24th, okay, it's then these -- I did not see Casey
on the 24th with these cans. The report was made after
that, if I'm not mistaken.
Q Okay. I thought you said a few moments ago
that this did appear to be one of the cans that she
returned to you on the 24th.
A I made the report on the 24th.
Q Right.
A I made the report of the theft on the 24th.
Okay?
Q And that's the day she returned the cans to
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you?
A Right. And it was after that is when I went
out and purchased a couple other cans because if I'm
not mistaken, the sheriff's department came, like you
said, on August 1st and removed these from my house, so
I had to get new cans again. So your date and my date
might be a little bit off but, yes. And -- yes.
Q All right. So --
A Casey returned these on the 24th. I got them
back out from her on the 24th. Yes.
Q And that's the 24th of June?
A No, sir. It can't be the 24th of June.
[Pause] I'm sorry. Okay. The 24th of June is when I
made the report to the sheriff's department. I'm
sorry.
Q Okay.
A I'm off a little bit.
Q That's okay.
A Okay.
Q It's all right. It's -- like I said, it's
not -- it's nothing other than just trying to get the
dates. So you noticed that can was missing on the
24th.
A Uh-huh.
Q Reported on the 24th. Casey returned it on
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2 A 24th.
3 Q You put it in your shed --
4 A Uh-huh.
5 Q -- where it remained until August 1st?
6 A That's what you just told me. That's when
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8 again.
9 Q Assuming that that's when that photograph was
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11 A As far as I know.
12 Q So my question is: Between the 24th of June
13 and the 1st of August, did you have occasion to use
14 that gas can?
15 A I probably did. I'm not sure. I'm not sure
16 if I cut my grass during that time or not. I'm not
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18 Q Okay.
19 A But I do know that I did not put the duct
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21 Q Well, you said because it's a sloppy job?
22 A Yeah. I wouldn't do that like that. That's
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24 Q Okay. I'm just trying to understand if you
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hole that you had previously had on them, why you
wouldn't have replaced it.
A Because I didn't go get any gas in it. I
would only replace that if I had went and gotten gas in
it.
Q So between --
A The gas cans were -- this gas can was empty
when I got it back.
So between June 24th and August 1st, you
didn't have occasion to --
A I can't remember --
Q -- get gas in it?
A I can't remember if I got gas or not.
can't remember.
Q You said something about buying new gas cans
and that's kind of where we got off.
A I bought new gas cans after this was taken
from the sheriff's department. I remember doing that.
Q Okay. But that was not until August?
A Right.
Q Okay. But between June 24th and August 1st,
you had this gas can and the other one that Casey took.
Those were the two that you had?
A And they were back in my shed, yes, since I
put them back in there.
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But your testimony is you don't recall during
that five-week period using any of the gas from gas
cans?
A What five-week period are we talking about,
sir?
Q From June 24th to August 1st. It's
approximately five weeks.
A [Pause] I don't remember using them,
truthfully.
Q Had you had occasion to fill that can with
gas --
A Okay.
-- would you have obtained a piece of duct
tape to put over the vent?
A I probably would have; yes. Because I
wouldn't want to smell the gas in my car. Yeah. Sure.
Q And did you have duct tape in the house?
A As far as I know, I had some out in the
garage.
Q And do you recall where you got that duct
tape from?
A I have no -- I can't remember.
Is there a particular home-improvement place
that you more frequently shopped at?
A I've got -- I shop at Lowe's, Home Depot.
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from Walmart. I mean, there's different places that I
purchase things from.
Q And that particular -- whatever duct tape you
had, what happened to that after, you know, August 1st?
A I have no idea. I don't know.
Q Do you recall using the duct tape that you
had in your house on any of the -- like, at the command
center or any of the other public displays that you
made in the search for Caylee?
A Oh, at different times I got duct tape to
hold plastic tablecloths and the table coverings at our
command centers; yes. Whether or not I used this or
something else, I'm not sure. I don't remember. I
don't remember.
Q Other than yourself, who else would know that
you were in the habit of using duct tape to cover the
vent hole in that gas can?
A No one else would probably know except me.
mean, there's no one else who actually ever did the gas
-- I mean, did the lawn except myself.
Q And just so we're clear, the reason that you
believe you did not put that duct tape on that can is
because it's sloppily --
A Yeah. I did not put that on that can.
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Q Okay. But I want to make sure I understand
the reason why is you say because it's done sloppily,
it's too large and --
A I would not have put it on there like that.
Q How would you have put it on there?
A Because the size of the vent hole, I would
have put it just over the size of that vent hole. It
would have been a very neat, little job. I wouldn't
have had this sloppily done like that.
Q So you would have taken a piece of duct tape
and cut it to size?
A Cut it, torn it or something like that. But
I wouldn't have done it like that. No. That's not --
that's not me.
Q To fit directly over the vent hole?
A Uh-huh. Yeah.
Q But you do acknowledge that in some occasion,
you put a piece of duct tape over that vent hole;
correct?
A I did. The size that would cover up the vent
hole precisely, or at least within a reasonable size of
it. I wouldn't have done that like that.
Q All right. And you would have used duct tape -
- where was the duct tape kept?
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Q Where in the garage?
A I have a shelfing unit right by the -- right
by where my car is parked.
Q Okay. And I don't know if by chance if that
appears in State's Exhibit 7?
A No. It's not in that area at all.
Q Okay. It's in another area?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. Who would know where you kept that
duct tape?
A My wife, my daughter and my son.
Q When the police searched your house in
December of 2011 [sic], there was no duct tape anywhere
in your home. Do you recall running out at some point
before that or --
MR. BAEZ: I'm going to object again to the
form of the question. You're giving him facts.
I'll just object to the form of the question.
MR. ASHTON: Okay.
MR. CONWAY: If you know, answer it. If you
don't know --
MR. ASHTON: Yeah.
THE WITNESS: If you're asking me if I
purchased any more duct tape, I know I did
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command centers. I did.
MR. ASHTON: All right.
THE WITNESS: Did I ever keep it back at the
house? I don't believe I did because the command
center was my priority, to keep that going.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Did you ever -- and please don't take this as
an accusation because it's not. Did you ever
consciously dispose of any duct tape from your home,
deliberately dispose of it?
A No.
Q All right. Do you recall Caylee having -thank
you -- any particular items that -- from which she
drew comfort, things that she would carry with her,
things that she would sleep with, things of that sort?
A Well, she has a teddy bear called -- we just
called her "Caylee Bear," and that was something she
slept with pretty much religiously every night. I
mean, there's a lot of different things that she had
comfort with. I mean, as far as -- could you be more
specific?
Q Sure. Was there anything -- some kids have
what we used to call a security blanket, a blanket that
they just drag around with them all the time. Anything
like that, like something that she just wouldn't leave
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the house without, had to have with her all the time,
and if you forgot it, you were in big trouble?
A As far as a blanket, no. I know she had a
baby doll she called "Mama". I know that. I know she
took that quite a bit with her.
Q Do you recall
A I do know that.
Q Sorry. Do you recall at any point learning
that a blanket was missing from your home that Caylee
used to use?
A No. I was never told anything about that.
don't really remember anything like that at all.
Q The theme of Caylee's decoration of Caylee's
room was Winnie the Pooh; is that correct?
A Uh-huh. Yes.
Q Do you remember --
A Yes. It is.
Q Do you remember having a blanket with Winnie
the Pooh characters on it that she would sleep with?
A I don't remember that at all.
Q O k a y .
A No. As a matter of fact, she had three or
four different blankets on her bed that we put over the
top of the bed sometimes, so I don't remember any
specifically Pooh blanket. No.
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[Pause] Let's go back to the 16th. We got
through the morning, talked about giving Caylee
breakfast. Just take me through the rest of the events
on that morning.
A Oh, just having her being on our one lounge
chair. She'd be watching -- I can't remember which
video exactly she was watching that morning. I know
was sitting on the couch, which is really close to the
lounge chair, having some coffee and a bagel.
remember her getting up and coming over and taking a
bite of my bagel and, you know, just spending a routine
morning with her, you know, playing with her, coloring,
just doing a bunch of little things.
I -- anything specific just stick out between
the time that she woke up and I gave her breakfast and
we talked and we laughed and acting like a silly
grandfather around with her.
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MR. ASHTON: Okay.
MS. DRAKE BURDICK: We need to go off the
record.
MR. ASHTON: Okay.
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BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Okay. So you told us about your -- what you
and Caylee did that morning. At some point I'm
assuming Casey made an appearance that morning?
A Yes.
Q Do you know approximately what time she got
up?
A I can't remember exactly what time she got
up. No.
Q Do you have an impression of, you know,
whether you were with Caylee for five or ten
minutes, an hour?
A Oh, I was with Caylee at least a good hour or
better.
Q Okay.
A At least that.
Q And when Casey got, up, anything -- did you
have conversations with her? Anything out of the
ordinary?
A Oh, you know, just good morning; how are you
doing, stuff like that. Let her know that I had gave
Casey -- I mean, Caylee some breakfast and that was
pretty much it.
Q Did you have any conversations about, you
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know, what she had been up to, what's going on,
anything like that?
A I don't remember anything specifically at
all. We just -- my whole concentration was just on
Caylee. It was not too much of my daughter. It was
just about Caylee --
Q O k a y .
A -- spending time with her.
Q Did you at that initial stage have any
conversations with Casey about the plans of the day,
what was going on that day?
[Whereupon, Mr. George entered, then left the
deposition room.]
THE WITNESS: We just talked about work. She
knew that I was going to be going to work that
day, that afternoon. That was just in the normal
conversation of days. That was nothing
specifically at all; no.
[Whereupon, Mr. George returned to the
deposition room.]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Did she indicate what she was doing that day?
A Just going to work. Had a work meeting and
she was going to work.
Q Did she give you any other details about what
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this work meeting might be or what it was about or --
A No. Just that she and Caylee were going to
be leaving and they were going to be leaving probably,
you know, in a few hours. And I said: Okay.
And that's about it.
Q Anything else out of the ordinary happen the
rest of that morning?
A No. Definitely not.
Q I know you relayed a number of times you were
watching a show on the Food Network, the last thing you
did before --
A As a matter of fact, I remember that
specifically at that time. It was about ten minutes to
1:00 that day on the 16th of June. I was watching one
of my favorite shows on TV, and it's called Drive-Up
Diners and Dives. And to say I'm sort of hooked on it,
I guess I am. I was watching it and I remember Casey
and Caylee, you know, leaving and the last time I saw
Caylee.
Q Were you outside the house when they actually
left or were you inside?
A I walked with Caylee and Casey out when they
left to get in their car and go.
Q All right. And did you -- did you assist
Casey in, like, putting Caylee in the car seat,
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buckling her in, anything like that?
A Just hold -- held the door open while she
buckled Caylee in the back passenger rear side and, you
know, just blew her a kiss, told her I loved her and,
you know, "Jo-Jo" will see you later.
Q All right. Now, describe for me what
Caylee was wearing when she left, to the best of your
recollection.
A She was wearing a black -- not black, a pink
top, just a slight little sleeve to it, some bluejean
shorts, some white sandals.
Q And I believe you said she also -- and any
time you need to take a break, just let us know.
A She had some white sunglasses on. She had a
little backpack with her and --
Q And which backpack was that?
A It was one that I remembered that she had
gotten for her, I don't know how -- when she purchased
it, but it was a -- it was like an off-white or like a
beige color, small backpack. It was just a small
child's backpack. I believe it had, like, little
monkey characters or something on it.
Q And did Casey have anything with her, a bag,
backpack, anything like that?
A She had her -- I think she had a dark brown
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1 or like a black-type backpack and a purse. She had,
2 like, a black or a charcoal-gray purse with her.
3 Q The bag that Caylee had, you said it was a
4 small child's type. Was it ---
5 A It was probably no bigger than this right
6 here [indicating] --
7 Q Okay.
8 A -- as far as the backpack. It was a small
9 backpack.
10 Q For the record, that's an eight-and-a-half-
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12 A Right around that size. Yes.
13 Q -- legal pad.
14 A Around that size. Sure.
15 Q All right. And the -- you said that Casey
16 had a backpack. Just normal size? Like ---
17 A Yeah. A normal adult-type size. Yeah. It
18 was probably -- you know, probably just a little bit
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20 Q Was there anything about what they were
21 carrying that led you to believe that they were not
22 going to be coming home that night? In other words,
23 did they appear to have extra clothes, anything that
Q Did you -- was this something that happened
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inside of Caylee's backpack. I -- as a matter of fact,
I really didn't even look into it that much. But it
didn't look very heavy at all because Caylee had put it
on herself.
I know Casey said she had -- as she was going
to, she was taking her to the babysitter. And she
says: Dad, she says, it might be a little bit late
when I get done. If I'm not going to make it home, you
know, mom and you will know or mom will know, and we'll
see you -- I'll see you tomorrow. Caylee and I will
see you tomorrow.
Q Did she indicate at that point that Caylee --
that she and Caylee would not be returning that night
or --
A It's just depending on her work schedule.
She had -- she was going for a meeting at work, and if
it lasted a little bit longer, she was going to stay
over, and Caylee would be staying at the babysitter's,
and Casey would also stay there because she didn't want
to come in late to wake us up.
Q Was it your impression that this babysitter
was someone that she paid?
Q Did you -- was this something that happened
A I never knew of her paying anyone at all.
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before, where she had said that she was staying over at
the babysitter's?
A Yeah. A few different times she said she
would be staying over. Because of the lateness of the
-- her work schedule or for a late meeting or something
like that she would. But it was nothing out of the
ordinary.
Q Okay. Have you since learned that on at
least some of those occasions she was staying with a
boyfriend?
A I found that out through all this. Yes.
Q Now, did you, either this time or on prior
occasions when she would say that, suggest to her that
you and your wife pick up Caylee from the babysitter
and bring her home to sleep rather than sleeping at the
sitter?
A Never was that offered to us. Never.
Q But did you ever suggest it?
A I probably did. I don't remember exactly.
can't remember if I did or if Cindy did. I'm not
really sure. I can't remember.
Q Do you remember any reaction from Casey to
Q Did you -- was this something that happened
that suggestion, if it was made?
A I don't remember any suggestion at all. No.
MR. ASHTON: All right. Let me show you --
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, this one is not marked yet. Can you mark it?
[Whereupon, the document referred to was
marked for identification as Plaintiff's Exhibit
Number 9.]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Let me show you State's Exhibit 9 and just
ask you if you recognize that photograph? [Handing]
A [Examining] Yeah. It's a photo of Caylee.
Q Have you ever seen that photo before?
A No. I don't remember if I have or not. I
don't believe so. No.
Q The shirt that she's wearing in that
photograph, do you recognize -- from what you can see
of it, do you recognize that shirt?
A Not off -- no. I don't recognize that shirt.
I don't know if it's a pajama or if it's a T-shirt.
I'm not really sure. I'm not -- I don't know.
Q Could that be the shirt she was wearing when
she left?
A No. She wasn't wearing this one.
Q Okay. So it's a pink shirt, but a different
pink shirt?
A Yeah. It definitely wasn't this one right
here.
Q Okay. Thank you. All right. Now, after
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une 16th of 2008, when was the next time that you had
any communication with Casey, either telephonic, text
message or in person; you, personally?
A I didn't actually talk to Casey probably for
at least a -- maybe a few days or maybe up to a week
after the last time I saw her and Caylee leave
together.
Q And what form of communication would that
have been?
A I think it was just a brief cellphone
conversation I had with her, just wondering where she
was at, how she was doing, how Caylee was. Because,
you know, I hadn't seen her for about a week and so --
Q After --
A I think it was just -- it was a brief
conversation. It wasn't very long at all.
Q Prior to this period in June, starting on the
16th, what is the longest period of time that Caylee
had ever not been in your house, consecutive nights?
A Maybe just one -- just one night.
Q One night.
A I never knew of her gone for any longer than
that.
Q Now, when Casey did not come home on -- on
June 17th, did you and your wife have a conversation
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A Cindy and I just talked briefly about it.
And Cindy just says that Caylee -- Casey and Caylee
were staying at a friend's or the babysitter's house.
I -- I don't remember the exact conversation, but I
remember she just says that she had talked to Casey and
everything was fine.
Q Did you recall making any comments that that
- of finding that odd or being concerned about that?
A No. I didn't. Because I trusted Cindy's
judgment. I trusted Casey. I had never seen any
reason to be alerted about anything at all. I just --
just did.
Q How about on the 18th? Same question. Any
discussions about --
A Well, I just wondered where they were at for
a couple of days and, you know, I said how much I
missed her. And I know how much Cindy missed her also.
And Cindy said, well, she's been talking to her and
everything is okay.
Q Did you attempt to contact Casey any time up
to that brief cellphone conversation you talked about?
A I probably did. I don't remember exactly. I
- I'm not really sure. I possibly did. I mean, I'm
sure I maybe called out to her. I really can't
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remember. But basically Cindy was the one talking to
her more than I was.
Q By the 23rd, which is a week later, were you
starting to become concerned about where they were and
why you had not seen them?
A Absolutely. I mean, I talked to Cindy about
it. I mean, because, like I said, her and Casey were
extremely close and just concerned about, you know,
where she might be and how she's doing. And if I'm not
mistaken, Cindy says: Well, she's with a friend.
She's been working a lot. I think she was thinking
about going -- doing some traveling or something like
that.
And I said: Well, you know, it would be nice
to have -- I used to call -- refer to Caylee also as
our little girl. And I says: Well, I wonder how our
little girl is doing. God, I'd sure love to hear her
voice. I haven't heard it for a week.
Q I'm sure that that -- well, shouldn't assume
that. Was that painful for you, not to have heard from
Caylee for that long a period of time?
A Oh, it's very painful, especially when, you
know, when you see your grandchild and you see your own
child nearly every single day or every day. And when
you don't talk to them for a while, yeah, you miss them
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more than you could ever realize.
Q Did you try to communicate -- did you ever leave
Casey a message basically expressing those --
--IC I probably did.
-- feelings?
A I'm not sure if I texted her or if I gave her
a voicemail. I -- that's hard to remember exactly what
I did day in and day out from that. I just basically
left it up to Cindy because Cindy said she pretty much
had daily contact with Casey. Casey always had a
reason why they weren't there or something, or why they
weren't home.
Q Based upon your prior experiences that we
talked about, was there a time when you were tempted to
become a detective and just start investigating?
A At that point, no. Not really. Because
again, I was leaving that up to Cindy and believing
what Cindy told me, that Casey and Caylee were fine.
She was told that by Casey, that they were doing okay.
Q Let's talk about the events of the 24th,
which was the next day. You were home that day; is
that correct, at least part of that day?
A Are we talking about June or July now?
Q June. I'm sorry. June 24th.
A Yeah. I was home on June 24th for a -- a
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little while. After I made the reports with the
sheriff's department about the gas cans, I remember
leaving because I met Cindy up at our local Bank of
America because we had to deposit one of those stimulus
checks that we had gotten.
Q How did you discover the -- that the gas cans
were missing? At what -- approximately what time of
the day and how did you discover it?
A About 10:30, I think, in the morning I went
out there to go cut the grass and I seen that the shed
had been broken into. I seen that the shed door was
open probably about four or five inches. And as I
looked inside, I said: Well, gee, this is great.
Someone stole my gas, my gas cans.
And I saw• the lock that I had had on the
fiberglass doors because this is a fiberglass thing,
was broken and was laying down inside. I remember
thought to myself, you know, that's pretty good.
Someone stole the gas cans.
And I remember some neighbors of mine, just
some idle chitchat over the weeks and stuff like that,
they said people had had gas taken from their cars
around the neighborhood and stuff and I just -- well,
why would they just steal the gas cans when they could
have taken my lawnmower, my trimmer and all that.
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Q Is your lawnmower kept in that same shed? A
Yeah. The same shed, yeah.
Q Did you have gas in the mower at that time?
A Very little. My gosh, probably -- maybe not
a quarter-of-an-inch of gas. And it wouldn't have ran
very long with it.
Q Okay. So you -- the absence of the gas cans
at that particular point kept you from cutting your
grass?
A It kept me from cutting my grass that day;
yes. And I remember calling Cindy and I told her what
was going on. I remember she got sort of a chuckle out
of it. And I said: That's pretty good. I said:
Whoever it is, they took the gas cans, and I said, when
they could have taken more stuff.
And I told her I was going to make a report
with the sheriff's department, which I did.
Q Okay.
A And I remember after calling, I think the
sheriff's deputy arrived probably in about 20, 25
minutes and we made a brief report. He asked me how
much the stuff was worth and I told him. And he said:
How long was it before the last time you saw your gas
cans from the time it was taken?
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I said: I don't know. I said: Maybe a
week, a few days. I said: I don't remember the exact
day I cut my grass. It probably was a week prior to
that.
And he left and that was it. I met Cindy at
about two o'clock that day at our local Bank of
America, you know, and we chuckled about the gas cans
again.
Q Yeah. Let me --
A I got home --
Q -- stop you for a second. Between the time
-- so you discovered the gas can at, like, 10:30ish.
The cop got there about --
A About eleven o'clock, somewhere right around
there.
Q -- eleven o'clock-ish. How much time did you
spend with him?
A Maybe ten minutes. It didn't last very long
at all. It was a brief report. It was out on -- out
on our street right by my driveway. He gave me an
incident report to fill out. I filled it out.
Q So 11:l5ish, you're done with him?
A Probably. Yeah. That's probably a good
assumption as far as that time.
Q And about what time did you meet Cindy?
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A About two o'clock.
Q Two o'clock? So what did you do between
11:15ish and 2:00?
A Probably just had some lunch, which I really
don't eat that much and just bided my time until I had
to meet her.
Q Okay.
A Didn't really --
Q So you met her at 2:00 at Bank of America.
A Bank of America there on Goldenrod and Lake
Underhill.
Q Okay.
A We were probably in there for probably ten,
fifteen minutes. You know, I remember getting back
home right just about 2:30, something right around in
there. It wasn't too much past 2:30 I was home.
Q And when you -- what happens when you get
home?
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A I had just been in the house for probably
about five minutes. Next thing I know is I hear the
garage door go open and Casey comes inside. I asked
her how she was, where's Caylee, you know, little
things like that. She said she only had about ten
minutes. She had to get back to work for a meeting.
Q How was she dressed?
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A Normal attire that she'd be working -- that
she'd be wearing to work. I believe she had her
charcoal slacks on again, or at least some dark-colored
slacks on. I can't remember the color of the top off
the top of my head. Could have been white or
something. But she was bubbly, excited, like I said, a
little bit in a hurry.
She just -- she was there to get some more
clothes for work. And I remember I asked a couple
different times about Caylee, how she was. She's fine.
I said: Well, God, you know, mom and I haven't seen
her; just little things like that.
Q So she went in. You said she got clothes?
A She got clothes. She went to her bedroom and
got some clothes.
Q Went to her bedroom?
A Went to -- yeah. Casey went to her own
bedroom and got some clothes. And I'd say probably
maybe as much as ten minutes or less, I mean, where she
was inside of her room. I mentioned to her, I said:
Did you hear what happened today?
She says: Oh, I already talked to mom.
And I said: Well, what did mom tell you?
She says: Oh, mom told me about someone had
taken our gas cans.
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And I said: Yeah. Isn't that weird?
And she didn't really say too much to me.
And -- and I know in the past that Casey had used the
gas out of the gas cans because I just knew she did.
Q Right.
A And she never specifically told me that she
did, but I always told her, I said: If you're ever
having -- if you ever use gas out of the gas cans, just
put the gas back in them because it's -- whenever I go
to use something, I like to be able to use it.
Q Right.
A And --
Q There's nothing like thinking you have gas
and then you don't.
A And all of a sudden, you know, she -- she got
sort of quiet with me. And I said: Casey, I said, you
know, I said, if you took them, that's fine. If you're
using them, that's fine. But, you know, at least let
me know and -- I don't want to say that I was back
playing to that detective mode again, but I did.
I said to her, I says: Well, I said, by the
way, I said, I'm going to be rotating your mom's tires
on her car this coming weekend. I sure would like to
get this -- it's a metal or it's like a steel --
Q It's like a little --
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A -- triangle and you can put it underneath
your car so your car doesn't move and stuff like that.
It's like a wheel chuck, I think they call it. And I
told her: Hey, I would like to get the one out of your
car.
And she says: Oh, dad, I'll get it out for
you.
I says: No. That's okay.
So we had a little bit of a back and forth, I
guess a little banter about me wanting to get it. And
I said: Casey, I know exactly where it's at because
I'm the one that put it in your car. And I said:
Where it's at, I said, it's down by the spare tire.
said: It might be hard for you to get out. And since
I put it down there, I'm a lot stronger than you, I'll
just get it out.
No, dad. I'll get it out.
Just as I was getting ready to go out through
our garage, Casey just burst past me. She said: Dad,
I'll get your -- I'll get that.
And I said: Casey, I'm capable of getting
it.
Well, by the time I got to the end of the
car, right where the passenger taillight is, she opens
up the trunk, she says: Here's your -- I don't want to
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Q F'ing gas can?
A F'ing gas cans.
Q O k a y .
A I didn't know what to say at that point. I
said -- I was stunned. I said -- I said: Why did you
make me look like an -- I don't know if I called myself
an ass or an idiot in front of the sheriff's
department, I said, and make a report? I says: Now
you have my -- why did you do this?
Dad, I don't got time to --
I said: Fine. We'll discuss it later. I
said: Thanks a lot for making me -- idiot. I think
that's the word I -- term I used myself.
Q Right.
A I remember I took the gas cans and I did set
them right inside my garage at that point. And --
Q And the gas cans --
A And just shook my head. I'm like: Why? Why
would she take these gas cans? I was just -- I didn't
understand it. Still don't to this day, but --
Q And the two gas cans, the one was the round
metal one that we talked about?
A One is the round metal one. Another one is a
smaller one. It's probably about this size
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[indicating]. I think it holds maybe like a half-a-
gallon of fuel in it. That's the one I have my mixture
for my weed-eater and also my edger.
Q Right. Oil and gas mixed?
A It's an oil and gas. Yes.
Q You had mentioned before that the round one
was empty. How about the smaller one?
A Oh, the other one was definitely -- they both
were empty.
Q O k a y . O k a y .
A Uh-huh.
Q So you put them at least initially in the
garage?
A And probably within a few minutes I went and
put them back in the shed and --
Q And it's your recollection today that when
she gave them back to you, the one did not have the
duct tape on it?
A Uh-huh. Most definitely. Most definitely
did not. I'm positive.
Q All right. So you put them back in the shed.
Any other conversations with Caylee [sic] after the,
here's your f'ing gas cans, and you made me look like
an idiot to the sheriff's office?
A Actually with Casey, no. Casey got in her
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car, she backed up and she left. I had no more
conversation with her that -- after that.
Q Now, at any time during this exchange, did
she say anything about why she needed the gas?
A She was traveling back and forth to Tampa, if
I'm not mistaken. This Zanny that I had just learned
about just a few months prior to that supposedly had
been involved in an accident and Casey was driving back
and forth and she didn't want to run out of gas.
Q And did she tell you all of that at that
occasion or was that sort of a compilation of things
you heard from your wife before that and some things
she said?
A That's some things that I had heard from
Cindy and stuff. I guess she had had the conversation
with --
Q Y e a h .
A -- Casey about that, so --
Q So how much of it did Casey actually say to
you that day?
A God, I can't remember exactly. I just can't,
you know --
Q Do you specifically, though, recall her
referencing this trip to Tampa and the Zanny thing as a
reason why she took the gas?
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A I can't remember if she said it exactly to me
or if she said it to Cindy and Cindy relayed it to me.
Q Ah.
A I -- I honestly I can't remember that part of
it.
Q Okay.
A I just don't remember.
Q What did Casey take away from the house that
particular afternoon when she left?
A Some clothing. As far as what she had, I
don't know if she had that in, like, a small -- she had
a purse. I think it was, like, a leopard-type purse or
something like that, probably about this big
[indicating], something you could probably put just
some light clothes or something in it. That's about
all I remember seeing her taking out.
And she didn't take anything from
Caylee's room?
A Not that I saw. No. I did not see that.
Because when she was in her room, I was towards the
living room and sort of in our kitchen area. I was
going back and forth, so --
Q But you didn't see her go into Caylee's room?
You didn't see her with any of Caylee's clothes in her
hands or anything of that sort?
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A I did not. No.
Q So you put the gas cans back in the shed.
What do you do after that?
A I went -- I just stayed around the house for
a couple hours because that particular day I had a job
interview with another company, which turned out to be
a great opportunity for me, so --
Q When did you mow the grass?
A I don't know if I mowed it the following day
or another day after that. I just -- I can't remember
exactly.
Q But it would have been within a couple of
days?
A I'm -- I won't say I'm a creature of habit.
I try to mow the lawn every week or every ten days, but
it's probably somewhere right around there. I'm not
really -- I can't remember exactly.
Q But you -- do you recall that you -- you are
the one that mowed the grass that week?
A Oh, absolutely.
Q No question about that?
A Yeah. No one else has been mowing the grass.
Okay. So in order to do that, you would
have had to have taken the gas cans and gone and got gas
for the lawnmower; correct?
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A Uh-huh. Yeah.
Q And you testified before that in doing that,
you would have put duct tape over the vent, since it
was gone?
A Oh, if -- yeah. If I would have used that
particular can, yeah. I would have done that because I
didn't want the vapors or the --
Q S u r e .
A -- odor coming into my car. So, yeah. And I
would have done a very neat -- a neat job with it.
wouldn't have done what you showed me in the
photograph.
Q Sure.
A I wouldn't have done that.
And that is the can that you would use for
gas for the mower, the round one?
A Uh-huh. Yeah. That's the one I used to use.
Yes.
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Q Okay. When was the next time that you had
any contact, either by phone, by e-mail, text message,
or in person with Casey?
A I did not actually see my daughter again
until July 15th.
Q All right. We'll get up to that date in just
a minute. Let me --
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A As far as between June 24th until, like I
said, the 15th, I don't remember if I had talked to her
or we text. I can't remember exactly. I don't
remember.
Q Between June 16th and July 15th, were you
doing any landscaping changes to your backyard?
Anything new that was going on back there?
A Cindy and I put some concrete -- we extended
our concrete pad out between our lanai or our screened-
in porch to our one back sliding-glass doors by our
kitchen. I think it's, like, an eight-by-five, nine-
foot -- nine-feet, maybe five-foot section that we did.
I think that's when Cindy was on vacation. I think
that's when we did it --
Q A n d - -
A -- right around in there.
Okay. And what dates was it that Cindy
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on vacation? What dates are you referring to?
A I think it was the first week of June, or it
could have been that second week of June that she was
off. Like I said, I don't know if she took the
complete week off or just a few days, but I know we did
it that time.
Q And that was the period we talked about
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Q But that was before June 15th; correct?
A Uh-huh.
Q All right.
A Absolutely.
Q Between June 15th and -- June 16th, I'm
sorry, and July 15th, the 31 days when Casey was who
knows where, did you all do any landscaping changes or
anything?
A Not to the backyard. I remember we did stuff
in the front yard. I put some -- some grass plugs and
some sod out in the front by our driveway. I remember
doing that.
Q Now --
A But I don't remember doing anything in the
backyard. Cindy might have planted some flowers or
something. I don't specifically remember.
Now, we had been given information that
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was also off for a period from June 30th to July 4th,
basically the time before the 4th of July?
A I remember -- oh, I remember that; yeah.
Q Okay. A She had that
time off.
Q Okay. A I remember
that. Yeah.
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Q Was that when you were pouring the new patio?
A Maybe that's when it is. I was thinking it
was in June. Maybe it was July.
Q O k a y .
A Maybe I'm just off a few weeks or --
Q And, again, I'm not saying it was. I'm just
saying --
A No. That recollection to me sounds pretty
good.
Q Okay.
A It probably was.
Q Is that a project that had been planned for
some time? In other words, had --
A Oh, my gosh. For years Cindy and I talked
about extending our little walkway, our little patio,
something like that. Right.
Q Did you actually pour a slab or just put in
pavers or --
A No. I poured a slab. There's 27 bags of
cement or concrete back there. I did it all myself.
Q Four-inch slab?
A Oh, yeah. It's pretty thick.
Q That's a lot of cement.
A Did it all myself. Yeah.
Q Again, the precise time when you were going
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to do that -- let me rephrase this.
Had you prepared the site before that? In
other words, dug out the grass, laid out the frame,
that kind of thing?
A Well, it was pretty much already dug out
anyhow because all we had were some plants inside of
it. We had some, like, lava-rock-type stuff, and it
was just a matter of pulling the plants out, leveling
that out, putting a little frame piece up and it didn't
take any time at all.
Q Had you and Cindy specifically discussed the
date you would do that, you know, prior to doing it, or
was it just sort of: Okay. We've got time. Let's do
it now?
A With her just being off, with me being off,
we just decided to do it. I just wasn't a specific
planned date or something like that. We just: Hey,
let's get it done, so --
Q Where did you buy the concrete?
A I think I got some at Lowe's. As a matter of
fact I got all of the bags at Lowe's, on 436 by
Pershing. I'm pretty positive.
Q Okay. That's the one --
A Because they had a good deal on it, so we
just went and got it.
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Q Okay. Any other changes back in the backyard
during that period from the 16th through the --
A No. I mean, around Caylee's house I know
Cindy -- we had planted some -- I think Cindy planted
some flowers around there or something, but nothing out
of the unusual. I mean, it's -- we always --
Q Were any of them projects that Casey was
supposed to be assisting her with, as far as you know?
A No. I can't remember Casey helping us out
with any of that stuff. No.
Q Can you think of any reason why Casey would
have needed to borrow a shovel on the 20 -- 18th?
MS. DRANE BURDICK: 17th.
MR. ASHTON: 17th of --
MS. DRANE BURDICK: Or 18th.
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Q -- or 18th of June from your neighbor?
A I know Casey had saw us in the past because
we have bamboo in our house -- I mean, bamboo in our
backyard. And occasionally where the pavers we have
close to our bamboo, occasionally the nodes, what they
call those, will sometimes pop up. And if you've ever
stepped on a large pinecone, it hurts your feet. And
that's basically what is. And they're very, very
pointy and stuff. I know we had shown her, if she had
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Q And what would -- how would that have
involved a shovel?
A You'd have to pull the paver up, whatever
size paver we had and you just pull it up and you just
pop it. You just dig down and just pop it right off.
It breaks right off.
Q Did you notice any of that having happened
between the 16th of June and 15th of July at your
house?
A Never really noticed too much of anything.
Q Okay. Did there appear, during any of those
days, to be any unaccounted for disturbances in the
backyard?
A Not that I can recall. No.
Q I'm going to just show you State's Exhibit
10. I guess there was some issue raised about whether
the prior picture was August 1st. Does that appear to
be a photograph of the same gas can we were talking
about with the duct tape on it, the one you indicated
was your gas can but you don't believe [handing] --
A Right. [Examining] And like I said --
Q -- that you put the tape on it?
A -- I'm not the one that would put -- I didn't
put that on there.
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Q I understand.
A As a matter of fact, I'm curious where this
photo was taken. Looks like it was taken at the
sheriff's department; correct? This is not taken at my
house.
Q Well, it's apparently -- I don't know the
answer to that question. There's apparently paper
there, so I don't know. Okay.
Do you recall those cans being taken by the
police and then returned to you and then taken again?
A Oh, I remember them coming and taking them.
Because, as a matter of fact, because I was walking out
where my shed was at and stuff like that. I had to
unlock the shed for them to remove items from there.
Q And then they -- but do you recall that they
returned the gas cans after August and then took them
again in December?
A Uh-huh.
Q Is that a yes?
A Yes. Yes. It is.
Q Okay. All right. Do you recall when they
returned them -- after taking them in August, when they
returned them, do you recall that they were in any
different condition than when you had given them to the
police?
Q Q
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A Well, they're filthy dirty. They've got
print dust all over them like that.
Q Fingerprint dust?
A They never leave my house like that.
Q Okay.
A As a matter of fact, when they brought
everything -- the stuff they brought back to me, they
brought it back in paper bags.
Q Okay. When they took it, is it your
recollection that it had duct tape over the vent?
A No. There was no duct tape on it, on the
vent.
Q Okay. I thought you had said before that if
you had used it to get gas, you would have put duct
tape over the vent and --
A Uh-huh.
Q - - and you did --
A But then again, from the -- from what I can
remember, the last time that I used it until the time I
repaired it, I don't think I cut my grass. I just
don't remember doing -- like I said, I would not have
put that tape on there.
Q Okay. Are you -- okay. I thought you told
us just a second ago that you were going to cut your
grass on 7/24. You couldn't --
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Q 6/24. I'm sorry. 6/24, but you couldn't, so
you did it a couple of days later.
A I gave you a rough idea. I can't be specific
on it --
Q O k a y .
A -- being two days after that. It could have
been a week after that. Don't try to put words in my
mouth, please.
Q I won't. So would it be fair to say that
sometime between June 24th of 2008 and August 1st of
2008 that you cut your lawn?
A Yeah. I probably did. I'm probably pretty
positive I probably did. As far as maybe once or
twice, I don't know.
Q All right.
A I don't recall.
Q And this, State's Exhibit 10, is the gas can
you would have used to obtain gas in order to operate
your mower; is that not correct?
A That's correct.
Q And if you had used this can to obtain gas,
you would have put a piece of duct tape over the vent;
correct?
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A Yeah. Because I like that gas can. It's
sort of part of me. It's 20 years old.
Q Sure. And it's metal, so it doesn't fall
apart. All right.
But is it -- so it's your testimony now that
when they took it on August 1st, that it did not have
duct tape over the vent?
A Didn't have any duct tape over the vent. And
when it came back to me, or the last time I saw it, now
it had duct tape on it. And I did not put that on
there.
Q So then explain to me, if you will, how it's
possible that you used this can to get gas for your
lawnmower sometime between June 24th and August 1st,
would have put duct tape over the vent in order to
utilize it in your car, but then it wouldn't have duct
tape on it on August 1st.
A That's a mystery to me, too.
Q Did you take the duct tape, put it on and
take it off again?
A No, sir. I did not do that.
Q But your testimony here today, under oath, is
that you have a specific recollection that when the
police officers took this from your home on August 1st,
2008, that this piece of duct tape was not on this can?
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Q Please answer out loud yes or no.
A It was not on the can. Yes. It was not on
that can.
Q But when you retrieved it -- when they
returned it to you, that duct -- do you recall that
duct tape being on the can?
A I don't remember that.
Q You don't remember whether it was or not?
A I don't remember it. No.
Q All right. Let's move on now to the -- oh,
yes. Did you repair the lock on the shed after June
24th of 2008?
A Yes. I did. I put a metal, like a bar on it
and I bolted it on and I put a lock on it with a key.
Yes.
Q [Pause] Now, was it -- it was locked with a
key lock before it was broken into; is that correct?
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was a lock on it. Whether or not I had placed it
together or not, I'm not really sure because we never
had any problems before.
Q And was that a key lock as opposed to a
combination lock?
A Uh-huh. It was a key lock. Yes.
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Q When you found the shed broken into, was the
lock still somewhere in the vicinity?
A The lock was on the inside of the right door,
down on the floor, on the plastic floor, the fiberglass
floor.
Q And when you replaced the latch, did you use
the same lock?
A No. I got a different lock.
Q And was that also a key lock?
A Uh-huh.
Q Prior to the break-in, where --
A Yes.
Q Prior to the break-in, where was the key
kept?
A I either kept it inside of my -- up where my
toolbox is at. I do have a lot of screws and stuff. I
either put some keys in there or in my nightstand.
Either one of those two spots I have one or two keys.
Q And after the break-in, once you repaired the
latch and put the new lock on, where did you keep the
key?
A Over where my air-conditioning unit is at
have a separate electrical box, and that's where Cindy
and I are hiding it right now.
MR. ASHTON: Now -- anything else about that?
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MS. DRANE BURDICK: He said that's where
they're hiding it right now.
MR. ASHTON: You can go ahead and ask a
question if you want.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: No. Why don't you?
MR. ASHTON: Oh, okay. So what's the --
MS. DRANE BURDICK: Because that's where
they're hiding it right now. You asked him where
they kept it afterwards.
MR. ASHTON: Oh, good point.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Is that where you started keeping it as
soon
as you changed the latch and put the new lock on, or is
that where --
A Uh-huh. Because I only wanted Cindy and I to
know where that lock was at -- where the key was for
the lock. Yes.
Q All right. And it's been kept there from the
date you changed it to --
A Until now.
Q U n t i l n o w .
A Until today.
Yes.
Okay. All right. Let's now move ahead.
July the 15th, when is it that you first heard that --
sorry. Go back before that. The car. Tell us how you
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A Cindy and I were working out in front of our
house. I believe it was the 13th of July. It was on a
Sunday. I can't remember the exact time, but I
remember I was out front planting grass and sod and
Cindy was up doing some weeding right by the front door
of our house. And Cindy noticed a yellow, or like an
off-white or possibly a beige-color notice from the
Postal Service.
It was addressed to -- I can't remember if it
was George and Cindy Anthony or just the Anthonys, and
our address. And it said the person who had sent it to
us or sender was Johnson's. When Cindy found it at the
front door, she said Hey, we've got something at the
Post Office. Do you know anyone by the name of
Johnson's?
And I.said: I have no idea.
She said: Well, you need to check into this.
It's a registered letter. Need a signature.
Okay, fine. I didn't think any more about
it. The next day I didn't get a chance to go to the
post office like I wanted to. Couple distractions,
something just happened. I went, I remember, and paid
a utility bill and just didn't have enough time.
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specific that I needed to go and take care of that.
Because Cindy had asked me and I said I didn't bother
going on Monday. So I went on that Tuesday and I know
it was probably about noontime, could have been a
little bit after noon.
I remember driving to the post office, giving
the sheet or the paper itself to the attendant who was
there, or the postal person, and just saying I was here
to pick this up, something like that. Before I signed
for it, I remember getting the letter in front of me,
and the lady said to me, she says: Well, you need to
sign this.
And I said: First I want to know what I'm
signing.
You know, when I saw at the upper left-hand
corner was Johnson's Tow and Recovery, or it could have
been Recovery and Tow, Narcoosee Road, and I'm like,
okay, and it's made out to Cindy and I.
As I opened it up right there, I seen that
our car had been towed on the 30th of June.
Q And by our car, you mean the car that Casey
used?
A Yeah. The Pontiac Sunfire that we had. And
I was kind of like, okay. You know, this is two weeks
now this car has been towed. immediately called
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Cindy, and I told her, I said: Hey, you'll never guess
where our Sunfire is at.
I'm sorry. Maybe I didn't say, our Sunfire.
I said: You'll never guess where Casey's car is at.
She says: Jacksonville.
And I said: No. I said: It's on a towing
service here on Narcoosee Road called Johnson's.
That's what the slip was about.
can't remember how -- what Cindy exactly
said to me, but I just said: Well, I said, I'm going
to go find out what's going on.
I drive down to Johnson's Towing and I met
the attendant who was at the front glass area, a lady,
told her what I was there for and she told me how much
it was going to be to get it out.
And I said: Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I says:
Question for you. I said: If you towed it on the
30th, why did you wait two weeks before we got a notice
on it? This makes no sense to me. When we're two
miles away from you, why couldn't you have called me or
something like that?
And she said: Sir, that's not up for us to
do. State requirements for towing -- and she went into
this thing with me.
I said: Well, I don't agree with what you're
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doing, but how much is it going to cost? She told me
500 and some dollars. I said: But the letter said 200
and some.
Q Yeah.
A She says: Well, that's because that was only
for the first three or four days.
I was, like: You've got to be kidding me.
I called Cindy, told her what was going on.
She says: Well George, I'll have to go and
get the money.
And I says: Well, while you're getting the
money out of our account, I said, I'm going to go ahead
-- we need a title for it. And I said: I'll go ahead
and meet you down at the towing service. I told her
where it was at. Both of us -- as a matter of fact,
both of us met at our house.
I got some gas in the gas can, as a matter of
fact this can of ours, or one of -- some other can that
we have, put some gas in it and Cindy and I went down
to Johnson's Towing and tried to discuss the fee, why
it took them so long to contact us --
Q Let me stop you for one second and ask,
before we get to that: Did you try to call Casey after
learning that the car she uses has been towed?
A I didn't talk to Casey about that. I don't
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don't really know. I really don't know.
Q All right. So you're at the tow yard to talk
to them about --
A At the tow yard, about the bill, why they
couldn't contact us, why couldn't at least he went by
our house and said: Hey, our car is down in your
vehicle [sic]; why they didn't get Orange County to
contact me. You know, there were so many questions I
asked. You know, why just tow something and all of a
sudden, after two-plus weeks, we find out --
Q R i g h t .
A -- you know, our car has been towed and now
we owe you guys 500 and some dollars? That makes no
sense to me. You know, why not a little bit of --
cutting somebody a little bit of a break.
We were there for probably at least a good
part of an hour, and got negotiated, and Cindy finally
got the price down a little bit, but it just didn't
come down enough as far as I was concerned, but --
Q Okay. So at some point do you go out to the
vehicle with one of the people that works there?
A Right. The gentleman, I can't remember his
name or anything like that, was -- I know he was
probably a gentleman probably about my age. And he
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just says: Oh, that's your car over there. That's the
white Pontiac Sunfire. It's parked in our -- I forget
what he considered the lot out front. It wasn't in
behind the solid partition, but it was in a fenced-in
area. I don't know if he called it the public area or
something. I forget exactly what he told me.
As he walked over to the car, I remember we
were just conversing. And I said -- I talked to him
again about why he waited two weeks, so on and so
forth. And he said that wasn't his decision. That's
just the way they do business in the State of Florida.
And I just -- I don't know if I said something to him
about that.
And I walked around and just prior to me
getting to the car, I see there's no damage on the car,
which I was thankful for. The guy asked me if I had
any additional keys for it. I said, yes. And I said:
I also bought some gas, I said, just in case there's no
gas in the car. And --
Q Now, as you approach the car, you've talked a
number of occasions about the odor?
A Yeah. There was a strong odor coming from
the car. There was. I'm not going to deny it. I
can't deny it because --
Q And you formed an opinion about the nature of
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that odor as you approached; is that correct?
A Well, it was an overpowering odor. It was
something that anyone within a few feet of this vehicle
could have smelled something. And --
Q And did you believe the smell -- did you
recognize the smell as being a smell of human
decomposition?
A Not human decomposition. I knew it was
decomposition there. I knew there was something that
just didn't smell right to me. As I went around to the
driver's side, opened up the driver's door and it took
my breath away for a second. It really did. I mean,
it's 90 some degrees outside. The car had been sitting
there for over two weeks.
I remember opening the driver's window,
trying to vent the car a little bit. And I remember I
stuck the key in the ignition and as I did, I knew the
-- the car wouldn't start. And I told the guy, I said:
Well, it's probably out of gas.
And the attendant that was there, he's the
one that says: Oh, my gosh, this really stinks.
And I said: Yeah --
Q Let me stop you for a second before you go on
to that; okay? As you approached the car, did it come
into your mind that the odor might be from the
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granddaughter?
A Not at that point. No, sir.
Q It never crossed your mind?
A Not at that initial point. No. It did not.
Q Okay. Go ahead.
A After I tried to start the car and I remember
the attendant saying how strong it was, and I said:
Yeah. And I said: It's a little bit tough.
I looked around the inside of the car. I
couldn't see anything except my granddaughter's car
seat and some shoes and some other stuff. The car was,
you know, messy inside.
And I remember getting out of the driver's
seat and walking towards the back of the car. And I
didn't say it directly to this gentleman. I did say it
to my -- underneath my breath. I said: Please don't
let this be my daughter or granddaughter.
And as I opened up the trunk, the only thing
that was there was a bag full of garbage, a white bag
with the tie on it, twist tie. There was an Arm &
Hammer liquid detergent. I don't remember what size.
I guess about that size [indicating]. There was a
pizza box and there was maggots inside of that box -- I
mean, in that bag. I remember that specifically
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because they were making a cracking sound, like
hamburger on a skillet. I remember that specifically.
I did not touch it. The attendant reached
inside and he says: This is your smell.
He grabbed it, the trunk got shut and he
walked over and disposed of it inside the --
Q N o w - -
A -- a trash receptacle under the trash thing
that was right there.
Q -- the bag was in the car. Could you look in
-- was the bag tied up at the end?
A Oh, the bag was tied up as much as --
probably open maybe not even about the size of a
quarter.
Q And --
A And it was on the left-hand side by the
taillight area. It was right there on the left-hand
side. I'm specific with that. I know that for a fact.
Q Did you -- did you ever open it or did he
open it?
A Never touched it. I never touched the bag.
The gentleman is the one that reached inside. He's the
one that said: This is your smell.
And he pulled the bag out and he walked right
over to the trash bin and dropped it inside.
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Q You said something about a pizza box?
A There was a pizza box inside.
Q In the bag?
A Uh-huh.
Q How do you know that?
A Because I could see it. It had -- it said
pizza on it. There was a -- like a little chef-type
pizza thing. I mean, it didn't have any specific pizza
name on it, but there was a pizza box in there and a
white -- I mean, not a white, but an Arm & Hammer
liquid container, stuff like we would use at our house.
Q Was the pizza box inside the garbage bag?
A Uh-huh. It certainly was.
Q And still was this a transparent garbage bag?
How were you able to see?
A Oh, it was very easy. It was a white, almost
a transparent bag. It was a white bag, something like
this right here, something like this color
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Q Okay. Now, right behind you there's a
completely transparent garbage bag. Was that --
A Yeah. Something similar to that, but it had
sort of like a white cast to it.
Q Okay.
A And it had a tie on it.
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Q And you also said you remembered hearing
movement within the bag that you concluded to be
maggots?
A Oh, I could see. I could see maggots and
stuff like that. I could definitely see that. Oh,
absolutely.
Q All right. At some point up to this point in
time, did you recognize the smell as something you had
smelled before?
A It reminded me of something that I had
smelled probably years ago when I was in law
enforcement. Yeah. It did.
Q What was that?
A A -- could be some decomposition of possibly
human remains, a possibility.
Q Would you agree that -- with the statement
that once you've smelled human decomposition, you never
forget it?
A Yeah. There's some certain things in life
you just don't forget. But then again, that is not
what I found in the back of my granddaughter's -- I
mean, my daughter's car. I didn't.
Q Is it your testimony here today that at that
time, the odor that you smelled, in your opinion, was
definitely human decomposition or could have been from
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A To be honest, I think it could have been just
from the trash, since it was back there for 14 or 15
days, or how many days that car had been locked up with
90-degree weather. Could that also smell like the
other decomposition you're talking about? Yeah. It's
possible. I don't know. That's a tough one.
And then again, the human mind or human smell
plays tricks on us from time to time. But it wasn't
what I was worried about it being. It wasn't.
Q It wasn't?
A It wasn't what I was -- let's put it this
way. Neither my daughter or my granddaughter were back
there, so I'm thankful for that.
Q Have you in the past -- and I'm looking for a
specific reference, but I'll just ask it generally this
way -- made statements where you have indicated to law
enforcement or other individuals that -- that it wasn't
garbage, that the smell of garbage and human
decomposition are very different, you could tell the
difference, and this was not from garbage?
A I possibly could have. I don't remember.
It's possible.
Q Do you recall telling your wife that --
anything to the extent that it smelled like something
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A I think not only did I make the reference,
but also she did, too.
Q She did, too. And when did that happen?
A I think specifically after we got the car
home, or she could smell it when we were leaving the
towing service.
Q What did she say about that?
A I don't remember exactly what she said at the
towing yard except the car stinks like hell. I mean, I
remember driving it home, it was starting to rain, and
after we got it inside our garage and --
Q Did you also notice a stain in the back, in
the trunk of the car?
A Yeah. There is a -- there is a stain right
above, like, where the spare tire is at. It was
probably about the size of this right here
[indicating]. It wasn't circular. It was sort of --
just out of being a complete circle, something like
that.
Q And you said about the size of this here,
meaning --
A About the size of this. Probably eight-and-
a-half-by-eleven. If you were to draw probably around
a circle of this right here, probably right around like
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that. [Indicating]
Q But the -- the stain was not completely
circular or completely square?
A No. It was not.
Q It was irregular.
A Yeah. It was irregular. It was -- didn't
have no particular -- like a perfect circle, was
nothing like that. It could have been sort of off or
something. I don't know. It wasn't really specific.
But it wasn't too much larger than this right here, I
know that [indicating].
Q The Arm & Hammer detergent that you saw in
the car, was that a type used in your house? A
It's something we used to use. Yes.
Q Okay. Is it a laundry detergent? Is it a --
A It's a liquid laundry detergent. Yes.
Q Laundry detergent. Okay. And do you keep
paper towels in your garage?
A Yeah. There's some paper towels we keep on
our one shelf above where our trash recyclables and -I
mean, our recyclable bins and stuff are at. There's --
I think it's a couple shelves up from that.
Q Is there -- are they on a dispenser or just
sort of --
A No. They're loose.
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Q - - unopened paper towels?
A You just pull them out. Yeah. Just pull
them out and use them.
Q Okay. Are they sort of the standard white
paper towels? Do they have a pattern on them?
A The only ones I can remember we've ever had
have just been white ones.
Q All right. So you drive the car home. Do
you have any difficulty driving because of the smell?
A Not so -- well, a little bit of the smell,
but also it was -- it was a downpour like we just had
outside here just a little bit ago. You could barely
see. It was a little bit tough to see out.
Q Okay. So where did you go?
A I drove it directly home, put it in our
garage.
Q Approximately what time was it that you would
have arrived back home?
A I'm going to say 2:30, maybe three o'clock
that day, give or take a few minutes. Probably about
that time.
Q Did you, yourself, remove anything from the
car when you got home?
A Did not. Just left the windows down, opened
up the sunroof, opened up the trunk, opened up the hood
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of the car. That's it.
Q Did the car need gas?
A Yeah. It was completely empty.
Q Okay. And did you use the round gas can
Or --
A I don't remember if I used that one or
another one I had. I don't -- that, I don't remember.
Q When you -- after you put the gas in the car,
did you put the gas can in the Sunfire or did you put
it in your wife's car?
A Honestly, I can't remember. I don't
remember. I just don't remember.
Q So you -- you drove home, got there. Did
your wife in your presence remove anything from the
car?
A Not that I can remember. Because as a matter
of fact, I had to go to work that day.
Q How long were you home before you left to go
to work—that afternoon?
A Probably a half hour to an hour. I know
got cleaned up a little bit because I was very sweaty
and -- and I'm trying to think. It was probably around
four o'clock I left that day, something like that. I
know I was about an hour late for work. I know that.
Q Now, so you went to work. When you got home
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with the car, did you talk to your wife about what to
do next?
A Cindy just said she would handle it and I
said: Okay.
She didn't want me to be late for work
because I just had -- just had started my new job.
Just had started my new job. She was worried about me
being late and losing my job because I was late, so --
Q Your granddaughter has been unaccounted for
well, you had not had contact with your
granddaughter for 31 days. You find your daughter's
car towed with a smell at least consistent with human
decomposition, in your mind; correct?
A Is it possible? Yes.
Q Possible. All right. When you got home, did
you discuss with Cindy calling the police?
A No. Not at that point, no.
Q Did you, yourself --
A Did not.
Q -- put those facts together and generate a
concern about the safety of your granddaughter?
A No. Because Cindy said she was going to
handle it. I was upset with Casey. I said: I want to
know where she is.
She says: George, I'll handle it.
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So that was the extent of that conversation.
Q When is the next -- so you went to work at
that point?
A Yes. I did.
Q When is the next time you heard from any of
your family members?
A Working that day, on July 15th, the company I
was working for, Andrews International, I was sent to a
location at the Fashion Square Mall where I was doing a
-- what they call -- whenever new movies come out, they
have what they call a premier, a showing. And I was
there for that. My employer had sent me there for that
particular showing we were at.
And I remember getting a call from Cindy just
about eight o'clock that night. It could have been a
couple minutes after.
Q Uh-huh.
A I couldn't answer my phone right away because
whenever you're working these premiers, you have to
have your cellphone silenced and things like that
because you're inside the theater itself.
Q Right.
A I remember stepping out after I had seen that
she called me. I tried calling her back. All I got
was her voicemail. Left a message for her: Hey,
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Sweetie, what's going on?
Idle little chitchat. 15, 20 minutes go by.
I didn't hear from her. I call our home phone, our
land line at the time. The same thing. All I got was,
you know, this-is-the-Anthony-residence type deal.
Q Okay.
A I got to be a little bit concerned because
it's really weird for me not to get a hold of Cindy
through one of two ways, either through her cellphone
or our home phone.
I ended up calling my son, and I said: Hey,
Lee, I'm really concerned. Can you go down and see
mom?
Lee was living at another location. And I
said: Hey, I said, it's been a bad day. Casey is sort
of in trouble. We got the car.
Okay, dad. I'll go down and check on mom.
At about, I don't know, probably just before
nine o'clock, 8:45, something like that, I finally got
a hold of my son again.
Yeah, dad. I'm home. Mom is okay. Whenever
you can make it home, you know, we need to talk.
I said: Okay, fine.
Finally talked to Cindy again. She said:
How soon are you going to come home?
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I don't know if she called me or I called
her.
And I said: Well, I said, if you need me to
come home now, I will.
She says: Well, just whenever you can make
it.
And I told her, I said: It will probably be
about 10:00, 10:30 that night; by the time I got home.
Q Did she tell you at that point whether she
was with Casey?
A She didn't say anything about Casey at that
point.
Q Didn't say.
A Didn't say anything about it at all.
Q Okay.
A I know just before ten o'clock that night I
came home. Cindy's vehicle is outside. Casey's
vehicle is still inside. My son's car is in the
driveway. I pull directly behind Cindy's car and I see
Cindy out outside of our garage pacing back and forth.
Step out of my car: Hey, what's going on?
And that's when she told me that Caylee was
missing; Caylee had been taken. And she said someone
by the name of Zanny had her and Casey was inside with
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Q Did at that moment, did the smell of the car
come into your thought process?
A No. It didn't. It didn't. All I wanted to
do is hold onto Cindy. I'm holding onto her. She's
falling apart in my arms. And I wanted to go in and
see Casey. It wasn't probably five minutes, I don't
know how many Orange County Sheriff's Department people
-- I'm getting ahead of myself for a second.
Before me going into the house, I asked Cindy
if she called the sheriff's department, if she made a
report. And that's when she told me she had made three
different reports, one to the Orlando Police
Department, I think two to Orange County, and -- and
they should be arriving any time. And I told her:
That's not good enough. We're calling them again.
And it wasn't maybe five minutes, something
like that, next thing I know is I think we had maybe
three, four, maybe five sheriff's deputy cars out in
front of our house.
Q Did you go in and try to talk to Casey?
A I tried to. But like I said, everything
happened so quickly. The sheriff's department is
there. I maybe had maybe ten minutes with my daughter,
if that, that night.
Q What did she say?
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A That Zanny had taken her. She dropped her
off at Zanny's house and Zanny had her. And I wanted
to know where Zanny lived. I don't know how many
questions I asked. And then I remember we all got
separated. My son is one room, Cindy and I are in
something else and -- it just -- it just was a
madhouse. It was -- not a madhouse, but it was just so
uncontrolled.
There were so many people inside my house, so
many people asking so many questions, so many things
going in different directions. It was hard really to
pinpoint what everybody actually was doing at that
point. It was really hard.
Q When Cindy comes out and first tells you in
the garage that Caylee is missing, did she mention the
Zanny-has-her --
A I don't remember --
Q -- aspect of the story?
A I don't remember Cindy saying that exactly to
me. She probably could have.
Q Was there any discussion about calling Zanny?
A I don't remember. I don't --
Q Do you remember --
A -- remember at that point. All I remember is
something I asked for Casey, that either take me to her
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right now; wherever she's at, we'll get her; we can do
whatever we've got to do to bring her back home.
Q And what did Casey say?
A I don't remember. I don't remember.
Q Okay.
A I don't remember. That point it -- I don't
remember. [Crying]
Q That's okay. Again, any time you need to
take a break, let's just take a moment.
MR. BAEZ: Actually, can we take one?
MR. ASHTON: Yeah. Sure.
MR. BAEZ: I need a little break.
MR. ASHTON: Okay.
[Whereupon, a recess was taken, after which
the following transpired:]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q All right. I think when we broke we were at
the house July 15th. believe you said you had about
ten minutes to talk to your daughter, and she told you
a bit of the Zanny story. Is that where we were?
A She told me a lady by the name of Zanny, or
actually her name was Zenaida Gonzalez, who drove a
silver Ford Focus, had Caylee.
Q And what was your initial reaction to her
saying that to you?
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A I wanted to go there right now. I wanted to
get my granddaughter. I wanted to do everything I
could to bring her back home.
Q And what did Casey say when you said that?
A I remember at that specific time I think we
got interrupted by one of the sheriff's deputies. Like
I said, it was -- it was very -- it was very chaotic
at my house. There was just five or six officers in my
house, besides my son, my wife, my daughter and I, and
we were all going in different directions. I mean, we
were all just placed. You stay in the kitchen. You
stay in the living room. You go in this area.
And it -- to say everything that happened in
all that time, I can't remember specifically
everything. I know Casey was crying. She was upset.
She --
Q Do you recall Cindy trying to call Zanny?
A I don't -- I don't know if Cindy did. I have
no idea if she had a number. I don't know. I don't.
I don't remember.
Q So you don't have any idea -- you don't have
any knowledge of Cindy having Zanny's phone number?
A Not a specific Zanny's number, no. I -- I
don't -- I don't remember. I don't know.
Q All right. So when is the next time that you
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have an opportunity to talk to Casey?
A Probably not until about 7:30 that next
morning.
Q Now, I understand that she left with the
police for a period of time and then was brought back?
A She left with Detective Melich. I'm not sure
if that was, like, two, three o'clock in the morning.
She didn't come back, you know, for quite a few hours
after that, so --
Q And when she arrived back, did you have a
conversation with her?
A A little bit, trying to get a little bit more
information about Zanny, what could have happened. And
I knew Casey was exhausted. She was just totally
spent. I mean, I could just tell. And I figured the
best thing to do was just to give her just a few
minutes or maybe an hour or something just to get some
rest.
Q Okay. Is that what she did?
A Right. As a matter of fact, I remember
myself even trying to lie down for a little bit because
I had been up since, like, 6:00 or 6:30 that following
morning. I was -- I was exhausted, too. I mean, not
only physically, but mentally just -- I knew I had to
regroup a little bit to get some sense and sensibility
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about some things. I know that.
Q So after that brief -- now, did she give you
any information during that brief conversation?
A Just talked about the lady's name was Zenaida
Gonzalez, basically how tall she was, how -- what her
age was. She was supposed to have been a very
attractive lady.
Uh-huh.
A I can't specifically remember where she said
she was in Orlando. I can't remember that. But I do
remember she told me about -- being this car guy that I
am, she told me about she drove a silver Ford Focus. I
remember that specifically. I remember she told me
that. She said it was a newer-type car, like,
2007/2008. And I remember that specifically she told
me. And I said: Okay. But I just need to know more.
And -- I need to know more.
Q Did she -- was she able to give you any more
information?
A Not really. I said -- she was just
exhausted. I mean, she had just been --
Q Did you --
A -- asked so many questions. She had just
been -- she was tired.
Did you ask her about what she had been
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for the prior 31 days?
A Truthfully, I didn't. I didn't even think
about asking about that. I was more concentrating on
Caylee, just finding out where she was at and wanting
to bring her home.
Q Did you both get some sleep at that point?
A I think Casey maybe got a couple hours. I
don't know if I actually fell asleep for maybe an hour,
if that. It -- just trying just to decompress a little
bit, just trying to get your thoughts together, like,
what can we do; what can we try to accomplish to try to
get Caylee back home.
Q Did you have another occasion later that
morning to talk to Casey?
A I talked to Casey, I don't know if it was
about 11:30 or noon that day. I had to go back to
work. As a matter of fact, I remember after waking up,
I went back in to my employer because I had to drop off
the information from the night before of this event
that I had worked.
Q U h - h u h .
A I knew that I had to do that. And getting
away from the house, it got me a little bit more
focused on what I needed to do to bring Caylee back
home. And I remember coming back from driving on the
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528 from Andrews International where I was working at.
I can't remember if it was John Allen or Yuri Melich
called me. I think it was Yuri. And he just says that
there was a couple guys coming to my house to take
Casey in for some more questioning.
And I remember he was very specific and he
says: George, she might not be coming back home.
And I said: What are you talking about?
And he says -- he said: I really can't
discuss it with you.
And I lost communication with him. I don't
know if it was about noon or 12:30, the two men had
came to my house at the time. One did show me his I.D.
as being John Allen and I --
Q Let me stop you for a second. This
conversation you say you had with Yuri, did you
communicate that to anyone else?
A Yeah. I told Cindy after I had gotten home.
And -- and she was about as shocked as I was to hear
that, you know, Casey might not be coming home.
Q And did you -- was Casey there when you
communicated that to Cindy?
A No. I told Cindy separately. I told her
that inside of our bedroom, I believe.
Q So Casey did not know about that?
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A No. I remember going into Casey's room and
waking Casey up. And I said: Hey, I said, I know
you're tired and stuff, I says, but the sheriff's
department is on their way to talk to you. They need
to ask you some more questions, and you've got to get
Up.
Q O k a y .
A I remember she got up and probably within ten
minutes the knock at the door. And --
Q O k a y .
A -- she cooperated with them. They told her
that she needed to go in to talk a little bit more with
them and --
Q Did you have any conversations with Casey
during that -- other than waking her up, telling her
they're coming, about anything having to do with
Caylee's disappearance?
A Just told her, I says: Anything you can tell
them, you'd better tell them. You know, anything we
can do to get Caylee back home, that's what our focus
has got to be, no matter what. And --
Q And she then --
A -- then just holding onto her and just --
Q And she then left with the officers?
A Yes.
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Q And have you -- did you have any other
conversations with her before she was arrested?
A No. As a matter of fact, we never talked to
her at all until I think it was later that evening --
Q And --
A -- when we had gotten a phone call from Casey
she had been arrested. And she called and she called
our house.
Q Is this the call where she wanted Tony's
phone number?
A Yeah. That was --
Q That's that call?
A -- the particular one. Right.
Did you participate in that -- were you on
the phone with her at all?
A I did not talk to my daughter at all.
Okay. So other people were talking to
her? A It was Cindy and I believe Lee did and
another friend of Casey's that was at our house.
All right. Between -- I know the first
time you saw her in jail was the 25th; is that correct,
of July?
A It possibly could have been.
Q It was more than a week after the arrest, was
it not?
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A As a matter of fact. Because we were -- we
were under the assumption or we were told that we had
to wait for seven days before we could see our daughter
because of processing and so many other things. But I
come to find out, after she had already been
incarcerated, we could have seen her that next day.
Q But you didn't -- based on that mistaken
impression, you didn't see her until the 25th; correct?
A That's probably -- probably it. I don't
remember seeing her any time before that. I know it
was quite some time before I actually got a chance
to --
Q Have you --
A -- see her.
Q -- reviewed those conversations, the ones in
jail? Have you listened to them or watched the DVDs?
A I don't really watch that much TV. No. I
can't -- I can't --
Q N o . I - -
A You talking about the ones that have been --
Q I don't mean on broadcast TV. I mean have
you obtained a copy of the DVD of the jail visits and
watched them at all?
A I have not.
Q Okay. Do you recall at the beginning of the
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visit when you and Cindy were together? It starts off
with a discussion about a picture with a drum in it.
Do you remember that exchange?
A I remember the picture very well. I don't
remember the exact conversation that we had on that
day, but we were told that that was Zanny's apartment.
Q Who told you that?
A Casey did.
Q Okay.
A Or she -- Casey might have told Cindy. I
can't remember specifically. But --
Q Y e a h .
A -- that's what we were led to believe, that
that was Zanny's apartment.
Q That's the reason I asked the question, is
I'm trying to -- you both seemed to come into the
conversation believing that Casey was claiming that
that picture was from Zanny's apartment, and I'm trying
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to figure out where that information would have come
from.
A I don't know if she told Cindy directly or if
it was she told me directly. That, I can't remember.
Q Well, did you -- between the day of her
arrest and the jail visit on the 25th of July, did you
have any telephone conversations with Casey?
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A No. Not that I can -- no.
Q None?
A I haven't -- I have talked -- I didn't talk
to her.
Q So there's no way she could have told you
about --
A No.
Q -- a picture?
A Right.
Q Are you aware of whether she had any
telephone communication with Cindy?
A I don't believe she did.
Q Okay. So if neither one of you had any
telephone communication with her, did you receive any
letters from her?
A No. I can't remember any letters coming
through from her. No.
Okay. So I'm trying to figure out who would
have led you to believe that the photo with the drum is
from Zanny's apartment.
A I don't know if it's something we got later
on from her or it was that specific day. I don't --
Q Well, you --
A I don't -- I don't remember.
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was one of the first questions that was asked, was
about the picture of the drum. So, you know,
obviously --
A I might --
Q -- you knew it before then. I'm trying to
figure out why that particular --
A I don't know if that's something that Cindy
had talked to Casey about when I wasn't there. I'm not
-- I don't know. I really don't -- don't know.
Q Well, I think we've already established
there's no way Cindy could have talked to Casey. You
just said she didn't talk to her, so --
A As far as on the telephone. Maybe they
talked that morning before Casey went in or something,
when she was incarcerated. I don't know. I really
don't know.
Q Did you or Cindy have communications with
anyone else, Mr. Baez, or any of his assistants, or
anyone like that, prior to your 7/25 meeting at the
jail?
A I know we had talked -- the first time I had
met Mr. Baez was right after Casey was incarcerated. I
don't know if it was the next day or the day after
that. I'm not sure. Within a couple days. But it was
very brief at our house. It was very, very cordial,
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offhand I can't remember anything about friends.
Q Yeah.
A Again, we're talking about so much going on
in such a short period of time.
Q So I'm still trying to figure out who
suggested that that picture was Zanny's apartment. If
it wasn't Casey, any idea who it might have been?
A We had a lot of different friends over to our
house, Casey's friends, people that have -- I looked at
different photos and stuff like that. I'm not really
-- I can't remember exactly when.
Q It appeared that going into this
conversation, Cindy already knew that the picture of
Casey with the drum in the background was from Ricardo
Morales' apartment, not Zanny's. Do you recall
discussing that with her?
A I don't remember discussing that exactly with
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friends over when this initially happened, and we were
just trying to pinpoint certain things about certain
times.and stuff like that where Casey might have been
or where Caylee might have been. And that was
something -- that was a photo that we never -- we
didn't recognize. We didn't know who that -- where
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that was at.
Q Well, it appears from the context of the
conversation that Cindy is asking Casey where the drum
picture was taken, though, she already knew, almost
as if she's trying to see if Casey is going to lie to
her about it. Do you remember any discussion with
Cindy about that?
A No. I don't. Honestly, I don't. That's --
Q All right.
A That's -- like I said, it's been so much
stuff happening in a short period of time. We were
going through -- going on no sleep for weeks upon
end.
Q There's some discussion in your communication
with Casey at this meeting about finding a way to
communicate with her in writing, perhaps through Mr.
Baez.
A There was never anything through Mr. Baez.
It was through the sheriff's department.
Q Okay.
A I told her she was in command. She was in
command of the situation. She could reach out to
Sheriff Beary at that time, write him a letter and
tell him that she wanted to see me.
Q Do you recall conversations about whether you
or Cindy had given letters to Mr. Baez to deliver to
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Casey and whether Casey had received them or not?
A I have no knowledge of that stuff. No.
Q Have you ever been shown any type of written
document, whether you were allowed to keep it or not,
that is a communication from Caylee [sic] while she's
been in jail?
A No. Not that I --
Q Casey. I'm sorry.
A Nothing that Casey has ever --
Q C a s e y .
A -- given to someone that I know of or
anything like that. I don't know of any
correspondence, so --
Q So you've never read a letter written to you
or your wife that was shown to you by someone else that
you weren't allowed to keep but you might have been
allowed to read?
A The only time I've ever corresponded with my
daughter, I've sent it directly to the jail myself.
Q O k a y .
A And, as a matter of fact, I think that's well
documented. So --October 12, 2009
Q O k a y .
A I think they've made copies of those. I've
sent stuff to my daughter.
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Q Okay. During this jail conversation, at one
point during -- while conversing with you, Caylee [sic]
says to you that she hasn't left, I believe she said,
the city or the county since March of 2008. Do you
recall her saying that to you?
A Well, Caylee did not say that to me.
Casey. I am -- I am sorry. It's late.
Casey.
A If that's what Casey said, she probably did.
I don't remember any specific conversations all the
time. She had had a lot more conversations with Cindy
about places she was going or where she's been than I
have. I never had any reason to doubt my daughter
about things, about that and when Caylee was concerned.
Q Let's -- okay. And with that qualification,
you said where Caylee is concerned.
A Because I was -- because Casey is a good mom.
Q You would agree, though, that you had more
than ample reason to not have faith in your daughter's
veracity; would you not agree with that?
A As far as work related, I would say that was
possibly for work. But as far as her taking care of
her daughter, my granddaughter, no. I never doubted --
Q O k a y .
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Q You ask her I believe at one point -- let me
go back here. [Examining] You asked her at one point
-- or, no. I'm sorry. That's Cindy. I apologize.
That's Cindy, not you.
[Pause] You asked her -- now, on the 25th
you actually saw her twice. You saw her and then you
were allowed to see her again a short time later; do
you recall that?
A On July 25th I don't know if I see her twice.
I don't remember.
Q O k a y .
A I remember going with Cindy probably most
times when I got a chance to see my daughter, but --
Q Do you recall asking her something to the
effect of whether her having taken something -- I'm
sorry, removed something without permission, or
borrowed something, or taken something might be in some
way related to Caylee's disappearance? Do you recall
asking her that specific question?
A I don't remember. I probably did. I don't
remember.
Q Okay. What -- what did you mean when you
asked that question? Were you referring to something
specific or --
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A Just asking so many questions. I mean, did
-- was she involved in something? Was there someone
who she owed something to or something like that, that
might have taken Caylee? I mean, you name it, I was -I
was throwing so many things out there. Did she
irritate someone that took Caylee for something that
Casey might have done? I don't know. I mean, there's
so many things that you ask, so many things you want
answers to, and there's --
Q These were just scenarios that you were just
trying to imagine?
A Right. I was just trying to think of
every --
Q O k a y .
A -- possible thing of why someone would take
Caylee, why this specific person would take her.
just wanted to know. I mean --
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that you admit you were trying to imagine scenarios
rather than going based on some fact you had.
A I was just going on scenarios, things I was
just trying to figure out.
Q O k a y .
A Like I said, is there somebody that she might
have flipped off on the road or something like that or
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-- I don't know. I mean, there were so many things
to think about and just --
Q She also made a statement in reference to -
- in response to that in reference to Amy and
said: I feel guilty about that, but it was a time of
desperation.
Do you remember her saying that?
A As a matter of fact, I didn't know anything
about a lady by the name of Amy until the 15th of
July. I didn't know even an Amy existed at that
point.
Q Well, this was the 25th of July.
A Right. I don't remember anything about that
at all.
Q But you asked her what she meant by a time
of desperation. Do you recall asking her that?
A No. I don't. Honestly, I don't. I do not.
Q She appears to tell -- she appears to sort
of suggest that you communicated some other way to
answer
your question about what time of desperation means.
Did you ever get an answer
to what that meant? A Never did. Never did.
Q [Pause] You went back to see her by
yourself on August the 3rd. Does that sound about
right?
A I know a particular date that I went back to
see her because we can only go see my daughter on three
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Q O k a y .
A -- when I went by myself. Yes.
Q During that conversation when she's
discussing about being in jail, you -- and I don't -- I
can't exactly quote, but you express some empathy for
her, and you say: Yeah. Remember years ago when I did
that thing that I did.
Do you have any -- do you have any
recollection what you were talking about?
A I don't remember off the top of my head what
that was about.
Q Have you ever been arrested?
A Oh, I've never been arrested before. No. I
mean, I've done some stupid things in my life --
Q O k a y .
A -- you know, but as far as what that exactly
is about, I don't recall.
Q Okay. You do also ask her whether Jose
delivered the letters. [Examining] Oh, did Jose
deliver -- whether -- oh, she asked you whether Jose
delivered letters to you, and you say no. And your
testimony is you have not received any since then?
A No.
Q Do you recall her during many of these
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conversations repeating to you more than once that she
could do more to help find Caylee if she were out and
at home?
A Oh, absolutely. As a matter of fact, we were
trying to -- trying to do anything we could to get her
out on bond so she could assist us. Absolutely.
Q And you did --
A Any information. Absolutely.
Q You did succeed in getting her out on bond?
A I personally didn't. I don't know how it was
all done. I still don't know who exactly did
everything, but --
Q Bu t i t - -
A All I know is I was glad to get her back
home.
Q She got out on bond. Tell me what she did to
help find Caylee when she got out on bond.
A Oh, looking on the Internet, putting together
a flyer for her --
Q Let me -- let me -- that was a badly phrased
question.
Tell me what information she gave you when
she got out on bond.
A We just talked more about Zanny. We talked
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Well, what specific details did she give you
when she got out on bond about where Caylee was or
anything?
A Just places that they would -- you know,
would frequent together, I mean, where she --
Q Like what?
A Oh, as far as going, like, to Blanchard Park.
There was a couple other parks that she went to. And,
you know, she just -- we talked about so many specific
things, you know, where would they go on a daily basis,
who would they hang out with.
Q Well, what did she -- what details did she
give you?
A She said: You know, dad, we went to
Blanchard Park a lot.
And there was another park on Lake Underhill.
I can't remember specifics --
Q O k a y .
A -- that she gave me. I know she -- we talked
a lot about Zanny and the vehicle and --
Q Well, she told you about that already; right?
A Right. But I was just trying to just
reaffirm exactly what she's talking about Zanny. Was
it a two-door Ford Focus? Was it a four-door? You
know, I was --
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Q But she implied to you in jail that she could
be of a great deal more assistance in finding Caylee if
she was out, and I just am asking you what detailed
information she gave you when she was out.
A Oh, we went through so much stuff.
Q Can you think of any details that she
provided to you when she got out --
A Well, like I said --
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A Like I said, she was very inspirational about
coming up with another flyer for Caylee, some
photographs. We also put together -- I think her and
Cindy put together a MySpace page for Caylee.
Q But there was no significant information that
she gave you?
A No. Not really. The same thing she could
specifically do. Because, as a matter of fact, she
could not leave our house to go look for Caylee. She
was confined to our house. But I know any information
that she would try to give to us or could give us, I
think did. I mean, she didn't know where Zanny was at.
She didn't know where Caylee was at at that point.
Q Was she able to give you any human being that
you could find who indicated that they have actually
ever met Zanny?
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A No. Specifically she didn't. No. We didn't
-- as a matter of fact, like I said, I never knew of
the name Zanny until probably --
Q O k a y .
A -- January/February of 2008. I never heard
that specific name. Never heard it.
Q Was she able to find any photographs of
Zanny?
A Not that she ever said. She just always just
described -- I mean, the couple different times I know
we talked about her, she just described her to me, you
know, about being 25, five-foot-seven-inches tall,
130/140 pounds, on a scale of one to ten, you know, on
and on, and straight white teeth and Ford Focus and
that was about it.
Q You mentioned Blanchard Park. Did Caylee
[sic) ever express to you a story of exactly how -- did
I say --
A You said Caylee again.
Q Casey ever say how Zanny got a hold of
Caylee? Did she ever give you the story?
A The only -- the last story that I can
remember is she dropped off Caylee at Zanny's
apartment, and that was it.
Q Are you aware that while she was out on bond,
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at some point she talked to your son and gave him a
different scenario for how Zanny came to have Caylee?
[Whereupon, Mr. George entered the deposition
room.]
THE WITNESS: That's a possibility. I'm not
sure exactly what all their conversations had. I
mean, there's so many different scenarios.
There's so many different stories that we've
thought about, talked about, visualized and drew.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Yeah. I want to talk to you about one of
those. This is the -- what we refer to as the
Blanchard Park story.
A Okay.
Q Now, you gave an interview on July 31st. I
know you've given a lot of them, but this was the one
at the Kids House in Sanford, I think the place was
called.
A Uh-huh.
Q Do you recall that one? FBI agents were
there.
A Uh-huh.
Q During that interview -- and if anybody wants
to follow, it's Page 82 -- you began to discuss some
scenarios of how -- what might have happened to Caylee.
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I want to just read to you this and ask you about it.
This is at Line 4, for anyone that wants to follow,
Page 82.
You said: Did something happen there?
Because I understand there's some marijuana usage
and some other stuff that goes on there. At least
that's what I've been told. Again, that's
secondhand stuff that I --
MR. BAEZ: I'm on the wrong -- yeah. Just
give me -- sorry.
MR. ASHTON: That's okay.
MR. BAEZ: I want to follow along.
MR. ASHTON: I'll wait.
[Pause]
MR. ASHTON: It's the seven --
MR. BAEZ: What's the Bates number? That
might help.
MR. ASHTON: It -- mine is not Bate stamped,
because I --
MR. BAEZ: Okay.
MR. ASHTON: -- apparently copied my own
somehow.
MR. BAEZ: [Pause] I've got to look. Oh,
that's it.
MR. ASHTON: It's the one with the FBI agents
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involved.
MR. BAEZ: Got it.
MR. ASHTON: It's a fairly thick one.
MR. BAEZ: Okay. I've got it. Okay. Page
what page?
MR. ASHTON: It's -- yeah. Page 82, Line 4.
MR. BAEZ: Got it.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Okay. All right. I'll start again:
Did something happen there? Because I
understand there's some marijuana usage and some
other stuff going on there. At least that's what
I've been told. Again, that's secondhand stuff
that I've --
Somebody says: Right.
You said: -- been told. Was my daughter
there with our granddaughter and something went
wrong and our granddaughter got taken because
something was seen? I don't know. Did my
daughter steal something from someone, a large
amount of cash, jewelry, or did she do something
that someone is saying, well, listen, you took
this from me; I'm taking this --
You know what? I'm sorry. I picked the
wrong spot. Pardon me. Yeah. I'm sorry. I picked
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the wrong -- it's a later spot that I want to ask you
about. Okay. Sorry about that.
[Examining] There's a lot of interviews.
Let's go off the record a second while I find it.
[Whereupon, a recess was taken, after which
the following transpired:]
MR. BAEZ: Page?
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Page 113. This is the top of the page.
apologize for the confusion. You said:
Okay. I'm sure my -- I don't know if my wife
told you, but Blanchard Park, you know, Orlando is
something else that came up. Supposedly this is a
scenario that Jesse held my daughter down when
someone grabbed my granddaughter. Blanchard Park
comes up again. I don't know. I don't know. Do
I want to go there and look and watch? Sure.
Then this Zenaida thing came up, and there's
-- and there -- Zenaida supposedly was there with
Caylee and Casey. Zenaida held my daughter down
and her sister, Samantha, took our granddaughter
and left with her. I don't know. This is all
just speculation, names thrown out there again.
Again, it boils down to my daughter knows what's
going on and she's not saying a word. It boils
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down to that. We keep going round and round.
Those two scenarios that you mention there,
where did those come from?
A I don't know if it was something I talked to
my son about, or my wife and son, or -- I'm not -- I
can't really remember exactly how that came about. It
was something that we had probably discussed, probably
different scenarios. I -- I don't know. I don't
remember. I can't remember what specific date that
might have been said to me or something like that.
just -- I don't remember.
Q Okay. This interview was July 31st. Your
daughter was in jail.
A h-huh. Okay.
Correct?
A Yes.
Q This is before she got out on bond; correct?
A I believe so. Yes.
Q And as far as you know, had any of you had
any communication with Casey -- you being you, your
wife, or your son, had any communication with Casey
other than phone conversations and jail visits?
A No. I had no phone conversations at all with
my daughter. Like you just said, the first jail visit
I had with my daughter was July 25th. This is August
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discussed. I don't specifically remember. There were
so many scenarios, so many things that we were thinking
about, specific people that we feel that might be
involved with this. There's a lot of things that we've
hashed over. We still do to this day.
Q Were you getting any communication from Mr.
Baez, or any of the investigators, or any of their
people about possible other scenarios? Is that where
this could have come from?
A I think that's mostly from Cindy, Lee and I.
I think the three of us were just brainstorming, just
trying to figure some stuff out.
Q Because apparently, supposedly three weeks
after this, or more, when Casey is out on bond, she
allegedly gives Lee this exact scenario.
A Maybe --
Q Do you have any idea how that's possible?
A Maybe this is something her and Lee talked
about. Maybe this is something that Lee passed on to
Cindy and I. I don't -- I don't specifically remember.
I really don't.
Q But so far as you know, Lee never had any
communication with Casey prior to July 31st other than
telephone calls and jail visits?
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A That's it. And all that stuff is recorded,
so you guys would sort of --
Q E x a c t l y .
A -- have, that knowledge. I mean, I have no
idea. I know we still talk about so much stuff through
all --
Q So as far as --
A -- my wife, son and I. We do.
Q As far as you know, these scenarios were
just stuff that you were making -- speculating about?
Making up?
A That's -- okay. I guess I'll say the word.
Making up/speculating. Yeah. There were some
speculations, some scenarios, stuff we were trying to
figure out and what maybe possibly could have happened
and --
Q I don't mean made up for purposes of
deceiving anyone. I mean --
A I know. Just made up because --
MR. CONWAY: Just clarify that part.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Yes. I do. I mean, you imagined them as
possible scenarios --
A Oh, right there. There's so much to imagine
when a child is missing. There's so many different
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things you think about. You do. If you weren't
thinking about those things, you wouldn't be out trying
to resolve --
Q I understand.
A -- this.
Q I understand. Okay. Let's -- let's talk
about a little bit more pleasant subject. Let's talk
about Caylee for a little bit. Tell me about her stage
of development when you last saw her. How old was she?
A She was just a couple months shy of her third
birthday.
Q And how was her physical development and her
mental development?
A Well, she couldn't carry on conversations
like you and I are having. I mean, she didn't have
that mental capacity yet. But she still was a very
bright girl. I saw her at the age of maybe 14 or 15
months knew how to turn on the TV, knew how to put the
DVDs in, learned how to turn on a computer, do things
that I was just amazed at just being the grandfather,
being that.
Q Right.
A As far as age two, up until the last time I
saw her, I don't think there was anyone -- any child
smarter than her. But then again, I'm just --
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Q Sure.
A -- I'm just biased. It's my granddaughter.
Q Sure.
A But to say that she was just a remarkable,
caring, loving, could-do-about-anything-she-wanted-at-
that-age child, oh, my gosh, yeah. She just --
remarkable.
Q In terms of manual dexterity, could she tie
her shoes yet or tie knots yet?
A No. Not really. She was starting to get to
that. We were -- she was -- I don't want to say the
word clumsy. That's a bad thing to say. But, yeah,
she was getting to that point. Yeah. She could do a
lot of -- I mean, she could open up doors. Even though
we had the child-proof things on it, she knew how to -if
she really pushed on it, should could have pushed it
open. I mean, there's a lot of different things
that --
Q Was she able to, like, say dress and undress
her dolls, unbutton things, unsnap things?
A Oh, yeah. She could take the clothes off of
a --
Q Okay.
A -- doll or a bear that she might have had a
little dress or something on. Oh, yeah. She can do
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that.
Q She could -- could she dress herself, like
button and unbutton clothes?
A It was a little bit hard for her yet, I
think. But --
Q O k a y .
A -- she did a pretty good job. I mean, she
couldn't pull up a zipper or anything like that type
stuff. But she could put her little coat on, and she
knew how to put her bathing suit on the best she could
and some little things, so --
Q Could she -- but could she do buttons okay?
A It just depends on I guess the size of them.
Now, something like this size [indicating] would
probably not be too bad. But anything smaller than
this I think it would have been a little bit hard for
her.
Q You pointed to the button on your shirt?
A Right.
Q It's a standard shirt-button size? A
Yeah. But -- yeah. Something like that.
Q Okay. She --
A As far as like snaps --
Q Right.
A -- like, little snaps, oh, yeah. She could
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snap her own little stuff.
Q Okay.
A Yeah. She could do that.
Q And could she unsnap them, too?
A Oh, absolutely.
Q Could she pull velcro apart, for instance,
you know, if she had a velcro doll? Think she could --
A I don't really know if she could or not.
Possibly.
Q Okay.
A I never saw her do one, but possible.
Q Yeah. In terms of communication, you said
she couldn't speak in full sentences. But was she able
to, you know, reference things by name, people or
things by name?
A Oh, around our house she would. I mean, she
knew of our dogs were Tinker and Tilly. She knew of
our cats. She knew of me being "Jo-Jo," Cindy being
"Ci-Ci," Casey being Mommy, Uncle Lee -- even though
she couldn't say Lee, she was Uncle "E," you know some
little things, or her Aunt Mallory, or say Mowry [phi.
You know, there was different things that she could do
better each day. It seemed like she was getting better
at it.
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A I mean, she knew, like, her DVDs. She knew,
like, Lady and the Tramp. She could -- 101 Dalmatians,
which was Dal-Dalmatians to her. I mean, there's a lot
of things that she could do --
Q So she had names for things, and she could
express those?
A Oh, yeah. I mean, she knew of certain dolls
and --
Q R i g h t .
A -- coloring books and crayons and all kind of
different stuff. Yeah. She knew about a lot of
different things like that.
Q Did she have names for, like, her grand -her
great-grandparents or would she refer to them by name,
you know, going to see -- I don't know what your --
what your father-in-law is called, but --
A I mean, she -- she didn't really specifically
say -- like, call him great-grandpa or something like
that. She'd -- what were we starting to call him for
her? You know, just could be great-grandpa or "Pa-Pa".
It's always "Pa-Pa". She knew as "Pa-Pa" --
Q O k a y . A-- to
go see, so --
Q Okay.
A Yeah.
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Q So, you know, when she would return from
being, you know, with Uncle Lee or Mowry, or whatever,
would she talk about them? Mowry did this, Uncle Lee
did that, you know, anything like that?
A No. Not really. No. It's --
Q Okay.
A No.
Q I think somewhere there was -- maybe it was -
- I don't know if it was you who said this or your
wife did, that she would sometimes see a vehicle that
looked like Uncle Lee's vehicle or Mowry's vehicle and
she would say Uncle Lee --
A No. She never said anything about Lee or
Mallory's vehicle.
Q O k a y .
A She always talked about Jesse's truck. She
knew that was -- Jesse had a silver Ford --
Q O k a y .
A -- Ranger truck.
Q So she --
A She could see -- as a matter of fact, in our
cul-de-sac there's a young gentleman who has a -- as a
matter of fact it's a gentleman and his father, have a
silver Ford Ranger type like that. And she would say:
Jesse, Jesse.
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Q So she knew Jesse's name, too?
A Yeah. She knew Jesse.
Q Oh, okay. And I was under the impression
that Jesse was out of her life, you know, fairly early
on. But so was he still involved in Caylee's life a
little bit?
A From what we've come to understand, yeah.
They still had some communications. They still saw
each other occasionally type stuff. And --
Q And she would refer to Jesse by name?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. My understanding from reading your
statements is that she never, ever uttered the name
Zanny?
A No.
Q N e v e r ?
A Never heard her say that at all. Never --
never did.
Q Did she ever mention the name of anyone that
you didn't recognize?
A Let's put it this way. I think she could --
if you would tell her to say, well, did you see Annie
today, she would probably nod her head, or did you see
Jesse today, she would probably nod her head. But
specifically would she come out and say: I saw --
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Q Okay.
A Zanny or Annie or -- no. She never --
Q Okay.
A -- did that. No.
Q Did she ever talk about any other children
that she was supposedly being watched with, like this
Annabelle or anyone like that?
A No. Like, again, now, if you prompted her to
say, well, were you with Zack today, or whatever --
Q Yeah.
A -- the child might be, she would probably
just: Yes. Yes.
Or she would probably acknowledge that,
but --
Q Did she ever actually mention Zack?
A No. She never specifically did, or any
particular person unless you -- like I said, you would
prompt her with that information, so --
Q Do you ever recall having a conversation with
Caylee about Zanny or Zack or Annabelle, or any of
these people that she was supposedly with a lot that
you didn't --
A No. Not really. I just asked her if she had
had a good time; are you okay; did you play today.
She'd say yes/no, and that was pretty much it. But no
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Q All right.
A I could ask her probably if she saw Santa
Claus on that day. She probably would agree --
Q Right. Of course.
A -- even though she didn't know who Santa was.
Sure.
A -- like I said, that would be prompting her,
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MR. ASHTON: All right. [Pause] Let me see
if anybody else wants to ask anything, and I'll
take a minute and think if I have anything else.
Okay?
MS. DRANE BURDOCK: Okay.
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS. DRANE BURDICK:
Q Mr. Anthony, when you came in this morning
you had several pages of documents with you which have
since been passed out recently. Have you had the
opportunity to go through those?
A A little bit. I haven't really concentrated
on them, truthfully. I've got a lot of other stuff
that has taken some of my time away from some of those
things, truthfully.
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Q Okay. You already said that you did not
review any of the videos associated with your visits at
the jail as well?
A I don't -- I don't watch a lot of television.
Q Okay.
A I don't -- there's a lot of memories --
Q How about over the Internet?
A There's a lot of memories I just don't want
to have.
Q Sure. How about over the Internet? Had you
ever looked at any of the discovery in the case that's
been posted on the Internet?
A A person or two that I was very concerned
about what they might have said.
Q S u c h a s ?
A Jesse Grund was one and Tony Lazzaro, two
people I was very concerned about and still am.
All right. What is it that you found in
Jesse Grund's statement, if anything, that was
concerning?
A Not anything really specifically. Just
everything. I just wanted to -- I haven't looked at
the newest stuff that just came out about him. The
stuff that I -- it's probably going back months ago he
initially came out with. Same way with Tony Lazzaro.
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The one thing about Tony Lazzaro that really
stuck in my mind is it seemed like how he's befriended
my daughter and how Jesse also has.
Q Okay. What did you do --
A But specifically, I really don't have
anything that --
Q Sticking out in your mind at this point?
A No.
Q What did you do, if anything, to prepare for
today's deposition?
A Tried to get as much rest as I could, which I
got very little.
Q O k a y .
A Was I nervous about coming in here today?
Absolutely. Trying to rehash over a lot of stuff that
there is speculation or whether you want me to
verbalize on something I don't have a lot of knowledge
of or can't remember. I'm worried about that stuff.
I'm beating myself right now up thinking about stuff
about that particular day when all this crazy stuff
happened --
Q S u r e .
A -- you know, on July 15th. There's some
things I just can't remember, as much as I'm trying.
I'm trying.
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Q Okay. Now, we took your wife's deposition a
week ago. When she came in on the second day, she had
mentioned that she clarified some information with you
about the locks on the house. Do you remember her
coming home from the deposition and --
A She told me about changing about locks, but
-- changing some locks on the garage door, and I said:
I don't remember changing locks on our garage door.
She said: Well, I thought you did a year or
two ago.
And I said: I don't remember doing that. I
remember -- I know we replaced that keypad out in front
of our house, that electronic keypad, but I don't
remember changing the locks on the door.
Q Okay.
A I don't remember doing that.
We were specifically referring to a door -
not the main garage door that goes up and down, but,
like, a man door or something.
A Yeah.
Q I don't know exactly what they're called.
A We're talking about our side garage door.
Q Okay.
A That's what I'm talking about. I've never
changed locks on that. It's been many years since I've
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Q Okay. And how about the front door locks?
Have you changed those at all in the past year?
A Have not. Nope. Have not.
Q Okay.
A If she said I -- I know we made some extra
keys and stuff like that, but I've never changed the
locks. I don't remember doing that.
Q Who did you make extra keys for?
A Just one for Lee. I think we gave one to
Mallory because that's my son's future wife.
Q R i g h t .
A I think Casey had an extra one, just in case
she lost one; Cindy's mom and dad; my parents.
Q O k a y .
A That's it. I can't think of anyone else that
we would give access to our home to except just or own
immediate family or something like that. I just
wouldn't do that.
Q Did you give either of your children
instruction on not replicating the keys to the home?
A I would want them not to do it. If they did, I
have no knowledge of that. I don't think they would do
it without advising me. I don't think my son would just
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Q Do you remember Cindy, with you present,
asking Casey if Zanny Zanny had a key to the house?
A I don't remember that at all.
Q Were you prepared for this deposition at all
by Ms. -- Mrs. Lyon or Mr. Baez?
No. I haven't talked to Mr. Baez in probably
about a week or better.
Q O k a y .
A Brad and I had very little conversation about
it.
Q Do you know if your wife had been prepared by
any of those individuals at all?
A Not that I know of. Cindy never said
anything to me and Cindy and I talk about probably 99
percent of the stuff that we're going through on a
daily basis.
Q Okay. Have you seen pictures from search
warrants done at your house before
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Q Photographs taken by law enforcement during
the search warrants that they executed on your
residence?
A No. As a matter of fact, some of the stuff
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that you're showing me today, like the inside of my
garage --
Q U h - h u h .
A -- that's the first time I've seen a photo
like that.
Q O k a y .
A I haven't seen any stuff -- like I said, I
haven't been going on the Internet and checking certain
things except for depositions of those two people we
talked about. I just -- I haven't been doing it
because up until the time that my granddaughter was
found, every single day I spent, and I still spend a
lot of time, still trying to find my granddaughter
through the command center --
Q U h - h u h .
A -- or going out and following people or doing
whatever I needed to do. I mean, that's just it.
Q Okay. Since you've brought that up, one of
the times that you were captured by some of the media
outlets, you had made a specific statement to them that
there were people who were being followed.
A Uh-huh.
Q I think the words -- and you can correct me
if you remember this differently than I do: We know
who the kidnappers are and they're being followed.
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A I don't know if I said specifically
kidnappers. I said there's people that are involved in
this, and I says they're being followed, or something
to that degree.
Q All right.
A I did. I went out and followed people
around. I'll admit that to anybody.
Q Okay. Who?
A There's certain people that I feel that are
-- that know a lot more than what they're stating.
Q Sure.
A And I followed -- it's my duty not only as a
father, as a grandfather, that I needed to get some
answers from. And I did follow specific people around
because I needed answers.
Q Can you tell us what you were referring to
when you made that statement?
A I'm referring to Jesse Grund, Tony Lazzaro,
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Richard Morales. I never followed Amy around, even
though I wanted to. But those three specific men that
I brought up I believe are more involved in this than
what we're being -- all of us are being led to believe.
But then again, that's just me. That's just my --
Q Is that a gut?
A A gut feeling.
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A A gut feeling. Because there's a lot of
things about the inconsistencies of things that
these people have said, that I've been told they've
been said. I haven't actually read too much
stuff. It's stuff that I've been told that they've
said that just doesn't --
Q Who told you?
A -- register.
Hearsay. People out there, you know,
talking. People that come up to you and say: Oh,
I read Richard's stuff on this, or I read Tony's
this.
And it's just hearsay.
Q Okay.
A It's just hearsay stuff. And I'm just, like:
Oh, interesting.
Q All right.
A Is there something I missed or something and
something about this --
Q Did you ask Casey directly if Jesse Grund was
involved in Caylee's disappearance?
A The only thing she ever told me about Jesse
was: Be careful of him.
That's the only thing she ever told
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A Uh-huh. She said: Be careful of him.
Q How about when she came home? Did she try
to --
A She really didn't talk too much about him or
some of these other people, to be honest with you,
because we still think our house is bugged because we
still think people are listening in, and we're trying
to do things as politely as we possibly can without
people eavesdropping on our conversations. But people
do it every day.
There's stuff that you guys even brought up
today that I didn't even realize was being stated out
there. But, you know, it is what it is. You've got to
just deal with it, so --
Q Okay. So what T take from this discussion is
that once Casey came home, you never asked her to
clarify what she meant about: Be careful of him?
A No. Because number one is, we had a lady
staying in our house when my daughter was first out on
bond.
Right.
A Leonard Padilla, I don't trust him as far as
I could throw him out this window at the moment --
Q U h - h u h .
A -- and some other people. I don't know what
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-- we had so many different people coming into our
house. I don't know what they did, what they might
have placed somewhere. I don't know. I just don't
trust people. I'm sorry. I don't trust law
enforcement right now --
Q Uh-huh.
A -- you know, because of a lot of different
particular reasons. But then again, that's something I
deal with. But to say that I'm not as trusting as I
used to be, I'm not. And I used to trust a lot things.
I don't trust things very much any more.
Q Okay. So because of your lack of trust of
whether or not somebody could have placed some sort of
listening device, there was no follow-up with Casey
about why you needed to be careful around Jesse or as
it relates to --
A No. Because as a matter of fact, the last
time I saw Jesse Grund or actually physically had him
in front of me, I think it was like the second or third
day that Caylee was gone. That's the last time I've
actually talked to Jesse.
Q Okay.
A I haven't talked to him since then. Have I
followed him since that -- I followed him for a few
weeks? Yeah. I most certainly did. I --
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Q When was that? When were you following him?
A Right after Caylee came up missing. I just
-- I felt compelled to do something.
Q J u l y ?
A To be honest with you, he has never been a
favorite person of mine.
Q O k a y .
A I didn't think he was good enough to be --
for my daughter. That's just a fatherly instinct.
Q U h - h u h .
A I felt there was just a lot of things about
him that just bugged me. And that's -- again, that's
just a fatherly thing. Fathers never think that
someone is good enough for their son and/or daughter.
Q Sure.
A I mean, I went through it when I met my first
wife, especially my second one because she had three
big brothers. But --
Q Okay.
A -- you know, it's just --
Q S o - -
A I just had a gut feeling or something, so --
Q -- from July 15th until when do you believe
you were following Jesse Grund?
A Probably until right about the end of August.
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Q Now, were you doing that yourself or was
somebody doing that on your behalf?
A Did that on my own. No one knew that I was
doing that. My wife didn't know. My son didn't know.
No one knows.
Q What did you discover, if anything?
A Just trying to find inconsistencies about
where he was going, who he was hanging out with, what
kind of friends he might have. Did any of these other
people that know Casey, were they friend,
acquaintances? Did they know each other prior to
Caylee or after? You name it, I was just trying to do
it. I was just trying to follow up on some things I
felt I needed to.
Q But what did you ultimately find out about
him? Anything?
A No. Because I -- I come to find out is, you
can't take the law into your own hands. You can't do
something stupid. What if I would have caught him
doing something or found him with a particular -- then
what would I have done? I had to know that I'm not a
law enforcement guy any more.
Q Do you think he could lead you to Caylee?
A I don't know. I'd sure like to have an
opportunity to talk to him. Do I think that there's
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more to him than meets the eye? Absolutely.
Q But did you think that he could lead you to
Caylee at that point?
A Uh-huh. I certainly do.
Q Did you then?
A I did then and I still think that he's
involved in some way with this. I do.
Q O k a y .
A But that's a gut feeling.
Q All right. How about Tony Lazzaro?. Did you
follow him around?
A Yeah. I followed him around. I know sort of
a lot of his little hangouts and things that he has
done or places he goes. I pretty much know that.
Yeah.
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Q -- aside from where he likes to go?
A Well, he's not exactly what you guys are
thinking he is.
What is he?
A I believe he's a drug dealer.
Q O k a y . W h y ?
A I also believe he's involved in prostitution.
And I also believe he's just not a very good guy, and
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Q That's fine. What are the -- what's the
basis of your beliefs?
A Oh, for I think -- and this is just hearsay
now. I understand that he has been arrested before. I
have no knowledge of that. I don't have documentation
for that, but he's just -- he's been involved with some
very bad people, I guess, over the years from when he
was up in New York or New Jersey and being down here.
And I understand this Fusion Club that they were at, or
where they frequent, I guess there was a lot of that
stuff going on there, so --
Q All right. Is this something that you found
out on your own through following him? I know you
mentioned hearsay testimony or information.
A Just -- a lot of it just on my own, little
inquisitive things, just following -- like I said,
following him around, having someone point me -- as a
matter of fact, I didn't know who Tony Lazzaro was
until this happened.
Q O k a y .
A But when I found out about Club Fusion, I
just happened to go there one evening, and I just
asked: Anybody know Tony?
Oh, you mean Tony L.? T.L.?
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And I says: Yeah.
And they pointed him out to me. I said: Oh,
great. Terrific.
Q When did you go there?
A I don't know. Towards the middle of -- maybe
towards -- probably about a week or ten days after
Caylee was missing. I'm just -- I'm just giving a
rough idea.
Q Okay. Did you believe that Tony Lazzaro
would be able to lead you wherever Caylee was?
A Well, as a matter of fact, that's where Casey
was -- the last spot that she was at when Cindy found
her, was at Tony Lazzaro's house.
Q Okay.
A Tony Lazzaro's apartment with, I guess, some
other people and stuff that were there at the house.
don't know who was there but --
Q Right. But did you believe that Tony Lazzaro
would be able to lead you to Caylee?
A Hope so. Between him and Jesse. I've come
to find out that he and Jesse knew each other prior to
this, too.
Q Where and how?
A Between some of the local clubs I guess they
went to. I guess they have some mutual acquaintances
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or something like that. A lot more you guys don't
know.
Q Tell us.
A I mean, that's -- and I'm just, like: Wow,
that's interesting.
Q Tell us.
A That's the stuff that I've been -- that's
stuff that I found in the beginning. I haven't been
doing anything after the incident September 5th, so -or
September 4th, so sort of just backed off.
Because I think law enforcement needed to do
their job and anyone else who's connected with this
particular case needs to research, do some things, do
some following. You just can't stop. You can't stop
when a child is missing, or a child is gone, or
someone's life is in jeopardy. You've got to do
everything you can to get the right answers.
Q That's what we're here for today, among other
things.
A If I knew more about these people, I'd be
more than glad to tell you. I wish I did. I can
relate to you, though, this, and I've already relayed
it to the sheriff's department, and Brad was there when
I did.
When our last search warrant was executed at
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our house in December, I had a three-ring binder that
was probably about as thick as those three -- three --
those pages that -- those documents together, that
stack [indicating].
Q Sure.
A I had written stuff down from the first day
when Caylee came up missing up until the time we went
to California.
Q U h - h u h .
A It's gone. The sheriff's department says
they don't have it. Between the sheriff's department
and one guy, Mr. Hoover, who was inside of my house,
someone has it. I didn't misplace it.
Q O k a y .
A It's gone. I had a lot of information in
there. It was, like, 170-some-odd pages, which I think
that's probably about the size of that [indicating].
There's a lot of stuff that I had written down, dates,
times, people I talked to, things that I had done.
It's gone.
Q Okay.
A I'm racking my brain trying to remember
everything. That would probably assist us a lot today
if I had that. I don't have it.
Q Okay. You started taking notes the second
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that you -- or not the.exact second, but shortly after
you came home on the 15th?
A The night that Caylee came up missing,
besides this report that I made to the sheriff's
department, I started writing stuff down on my own,
people I specifically talked to, all the deputies that
were at my house, the times, the dates, everything that
happened. I did. I did that.
Maybe that's the old investigator in me or
something like that, but the best things you can do
besides -- the best thing you can do on something is
documentation.
Q Sure.
A And if you have that, who can --
Q Had you made any copies of that up to a
certain point and provided them to Mr. Baez?
A I never did. I never did. Never gave it to
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No.
Q -- or Mr. Conway?
A Nope. I did not.
Okay.
A That was just something I was doing on my own
because I had felt compelled to do that. If there's
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something I felt was worthy, made a pass on, I would
have done that. But like I say, everything was all
speculation. Everything was just stuff that I was
working on on my own, so --
Q Did you follow Ricardo Morales?
A I went up to his place of work, which is the
Ford Dealership up in Maitland. I followed him after
work a few different times.
Q What did you discover?
A He went right home generally. He lives right
down here off of Robinson Street. I can't think of the
exact address, but he lives right down that way.
Okay. Did you believe that he could lead you
to Caylee?
A Well, you've got to go with anything that
you've got, anyone that your daughter might have been
associated with.
Q Right.
A You've got to go with any and everything that
you've got. And come to find out that, like I said,
between Jesse knowing Tony, Tony knowing Ricardo,
Amy, they're all intertwined in some way, however.
And it's -- you know, you got to do what you've got
to do.
Q Right.
A So they're not like th6y just met each other
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one day and forgot of each other the next. They've
been together for quite some time, all of them.
Q You said you did not follow Amy, but you
wanted to. Why is that?
A I don't know. I just figured, well, there's
not much more she could probably tell us because -- and
then also the point is the tech issue with Casey. I
figured it was better for me just to let that go and be
done with it, so --
Q All right. You said the week that
encompassed July 15th of last year you had just started
a job with -- and you gave the name.
A Andrews International. I started with them,
as a matter of fact, on June 30th. I think I accepted
the position on June 30th. I think my first date was,
like, July 1st or 2nd, something like that with them.
Great company. I lost a great job --
Q What hours --
A -- because of this.
Q -- did they have you working that first week?
A Mostly first shift or day shift. We were
just getting accustomed to the operation as far as what
I was -- my specific duties were. I was considered a
field service -- I mean, a Florida field captain.
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room.]
THE WITNESS: What I had to do was go around
with the general manager of the facility for the
area, and I went to different Disney locations
that we had a contract with just to get to know
the people that were in charge of these separate
locations, them to get to know me, get to know the
officers that I was supervising or managing.
BY MS. DRANE BURDICK:
Q Okay. So that week when Cindy, your wife,
was off of work, you started that job and --
A Right. I mean, I worked, like, a few
different days and that's pretty much it.
Q Were you aware of Cindy going out to
Universal Studios on July 3rd?
A I didn't know anything about it.
Q And have you since learned she went there?
A I learned about that probably a few weeks --
few weeks after that or something like that, so --
Q Okay. Before or after July 15th?
A Oh, it was definitely after July 15th.
Definitely after that. I knew nothing about that prior
to that.
Q Okay. Did you know that Cindy had created a
MySpace page with a message to Casey?
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I didn't know that until all this stuff
happened. I didn't know anything about that.
Q Okay. How about Cindy asking Lee to find
Casey July 3rd?
A That's possible that she did that with him.
I -- I don't know. Cindy didn't tell me some things
right at the beginning. I don't think she wanted me to
worry any further. Plus she didn't want to jeopardize
my job.
Q Okay.
AThat was another thing, too. Because she
knew if I would have heard probably something
of that -- I'm just surmising. If she would have
-- I probably just would have said, screw this
job. I want to find so and so, but --
Q All right.
A Yeah.
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Q Did you work on the 4th of July last year?
It would have been, I believe, Friday in 2008.
A I don't believe I worked that day. I don't
believe so. Or if I did, I worked -- as a matter of
fact, that was that first week. I think I worked
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during the early hours that day, so --
Q On the holiday?
A I think so. Yeah.
Q How about July 3rd?
A Possibly did. Like I said, I just had
started that job. I think I worked so many hours each
day. I'd have to find an old schedule if I still have
one, so --
Q All right. The reason I ask you about that
week is because you had earlier been discussing pouring
that concrete pad.
A Right. I had thought it was June, but
actually I guess it was July, so --
Q Okay. When do you think you actually did
that, which date that week? If you can relate it to
when you accepted the job, the holiday, things like
that.
A It probably was those first couple days
probably in July when -- probably when Cindy was off.
That's probably when I did it.
Q Okay. Had you noticed anything unusual or
amiss in the yard?
A No. Definitely not.
Q Nothing in the yard as you moved things
around to prep for this that raised your suspicions?
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A No. Because the concrete area that I added
to, it's directly attached to the house, between our
screened-in or our lanai and where our kitchen sliding-
glass door is at. That's the section that I replaced
right there. Like I said, it's nine-by-six or nine-by-
five. It's not that large of an area.
Q Okay. So nothing suspicious in the yard that
caught your attention, or your wife didn't tell you
there was something suspicious of hers?
A Nothing that I -- nothing that I saw, nothing
she brought to my attention. No. Nothing.
Q Okay. Do you have shovels at your residence?
A I have -- I think I have -- yeah. I have
three -- actually I have four shovels inside of my
shed.
Q Is it the same shed with the gas cans?
A Uh-huh.
Q Yes?
A Yes.
Q [Pause] Do you have a freezer in your
garage?
A Yes.
Q What's the capacity of that, approximately?
A Maybe four cubic feet, five cubic feet. It's
not very large at all.
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Q What do you store in there generally?
A Just some meat, maybe some frozen vegetables,
Popsicles, maybe an occasional -- I hate to say the
word TV dinners, but, you know, like, the little frozen
dinners-type things.
Q Okay. Who's the Popsicle fan in your house?
A All of us are. We enjoy Popsicles.
Q Okay.
A Actually, we used to keep a lot of them for
Caylee, but then again it's --
Q When you came home from work on Father's Day,
which was June 15th, 2008, you said Cindy was asleep?
A Uh-huh. Yes.
Q What time do you think you got home?
A 11:30, right around there.
Q What job was it that you had then?
A It was a security company called Security
Forces. They're based out in Altamonte. They had
assigned me to a location that -- Orlando Utilities
Commission on Pershing Drive.
Q So did your shift end at 11:00?
A Exactly eleven o'clock.
Q And from there you would?
A Go directly home. My home is about ten
minutes away.
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Q Okay. Were any of the televisions on, if you
remember, when you got home?
A No TVs on. The house was dark.
Q Silent?
A Yes.
Q And you did not see Casey?
A I do not remember Casey being at home. She
could have been. I just don't remember it.
Q Do you remember seeing her car? ANo. I don't. Truthfully, I don't remember.
Q Okay. [Pause] Do you do Google searches on
that computer, that desktop computer at your house?
A I think I did, but --
Q What kinds of things would you Google?
A Not anything specific. It would just depend.
I mean, I'm not a real Google-type guy. I mean,
generally I'd just check e-mails and that's about it.
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Q -- surf the Internet or anything like that?
A Not really. Not that much. I think I used
to -- there was one game that I used play on that.
That was, like, a falling-dice type game or something.
I can't remember what the name of that --
Q How about your wife? Does she like to surf
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sort of special -- A Cindy?
Q -- interest on the Internet?
A Up until all this stuff happened, Cindy was
never really a computer person. Not really. She
never really did.
Q Okay. Did you ever perform a Google search
for how to make chloroform?
A Never did.
Q Okay. Or even just search the word
chloroform, however --
A Never did.
Q -- you would have spelled it?
A Nope.
Q Chlorophyll?
A Nope. Never have.
Acetone, alcohol, just as search
terms? A Never did.
Q Okay.
A No reason to.
Q Neck
breaking? A No.
Q Shovel?
A No.
Q Any missing children's websites that you
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would have gone to prior to July 15th of 2008?
A No. Never really thought about missing
children until my granddaughter.
Q Okay. Did your wife ever tell you that she
was searching for a reason why your dogs were throwing
up?
A I can't remember anything of that. No. And
I don't know -- our dogs really don't throw up. I
mean, we've got cats that had an occasional hairball
type stuff, but not our dogs. No.
Q Okay.
A Because our current dogs we've had, we've had
them -- we've had, what, Tilly -- we got her just
before we had -- before Caylee was born, and Tinker we
didn't get until after Caylee was already with us, so
-- and we've had our cats for years. We had Cocker
Spaniels before our Yorkies, and they had been gone
almost a year before we got the Yorkies, so --
You had mentioned somewhere along the line
that there was something suspicious about the ladder to
the pool that you or Cindy had discovered in June or
July of last year.
A There was one --
Q What do you recall of that?
A There was one time that I had called Cindy
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just to make sure she was home okay because I worked
the 3:00-to-11:00 shift.
Q U h - h u h .
A And I always would try to call her about 6:00
or 6:30 to make sure she was home okay. I remember she
specifically asking me: Hey, thanks for leaving the
gate open.
And I said: What are you talking about?
She said: The gate to the fence.
I said: I didn't leave no gate open.
She says: Well, she says, the pool -- the
ladder is on the pool.
I said: Impossible.
Well, did you go swimming after you were
working outside?
I said: No.
So that was sort of -- that's out of our
character because we're very -- maybe the term
religious isn't the right term, but we're very
knowledgeable --
Q U h - h u h .
A -- of locking that gate, and that ladder is
always off, especially when we have Caylee there.
mean, that's something we did. I knew that.
Is there any way to date when she would have
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made that statement to you about the gate being open?
A Well, I was still working for Security Forces
at OUC. I'm not sure what date that is exactly, but I
know we had the conversation. I don't remember.
Q O k a y .
A Just don't remember.
Q Did you ever directly ask Casey if there was
an accident involving Caylee?
A Never did. Never actually asked her that.
No. Never did.
Q [Pause] Do you go to Mr. Baez' office?
A I've been in his office a few times. I don't
go there a lot. I don't -- I don't have a lot of
conversation with him. I really don't.
Q Okay. Have you been to his office and read
letters written to you by Casey?
A No. I haven't gotten any letters from Casey
at Jose's office. I have not.
Q Okay. Has he brought letters written by
Casey to your home for you to read?
A Not that I've ever seen. No.
Q Have you given letters to him -- I know
you've said you sent them directly to the jail, but
have you ever given letters to him to deliver to Casey?
A No. I've given him the -- I mean, I've given
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him -- what I've asked him is each time is I wanted to
see my daughter, I asked him to tell Casey I need to
see him -- I mean, see her. And that's what that's
about.
Q Okay. Have you ever removed any items from
your home and given them to Mr. Baez or any of the
investigators or people working on the case with him?
A You have to be more specific. I don't
understand what you're exactly asking me to provide
information for. I don't understand what you mean.
Q Have you ever given Mr. Baez any physical
item?
A Not that I can remember. No. I can't
remember any specific thing that I've actually given
him for Casey or anything like that. I can't.
Q Okay. At some point, you know, there were
some -- were there items removed from your home, to
your knowledge, and given --
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A Oh, there has been a lot of stuff removed
from my home. And who specifically has removed them,
think the sheriff's department has removed a lot of
stuff. I don't know of Mr. Baez being in my house and
removing something. I don't know if -- when Mr.
Padilla was in my house a couple times, if he or some
of his people removed stuff. I don't know.
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Q Uh-huh.
A I don't know. I don't know. We have things
missing; yeah. We've got a lot of things missing in
our house.
Q Okay.
A And who specifically could have taken them, I
don't know, but I'd sure like to know. I'd like to
find out.
Q Now, you said you haven't looked at the
discovery, so I'm assuming then that you don't know
what items the sheriff's office has itemized as having
removed from your home?
A Well, whenever they would give me their
so-called list of stuff they take from my home, if you
can read the copies that they give me, God bless you.
Q Okay.
A But stuff that they've given to us or copies
of
Q You're talking about the inventory?
A The inventory. To me, I think it's a joke.
You can't read it. You can't read their handwriting.
You can't read the copies. And when I would like to
know what they've taken, it would be nice to see that.
Yeah. It would be nice to see that so-called -- that's
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Okay.
A Do I agree with the Florida Sunshine Law
releasing everything? No. I don't.
Q Oh, I didn't ask that.
A I think it's a stab -- it's a stab in my
back, in my family's back. You guys know more about me
than probably what I know about myself right now.
Q O k a y .
A I'm not trying to be --
Q I'm not on the legislature, so --
A -- mean to you or nothing like that, but -- I
know. But I'm just letting you know --
Q I'm not the person to --
A -- that's my deep feelings.
Q -- talk to about that. You've gone to the
national media and given information about yourselves;
correct?
A Anything I could do to bring my granddaughter
home, to get my daughter out of jail, I'll do it. I'll
sell my soul to the devil right now to get her out of
jail, to answer your question.
Q O k a y .
A But, yes. I've done everything I can to
bring awareness to my granddaughter, for any other
missing children or families I've come in contact with.
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Yeah. I'll keep on doing it until the day that I die
because that's my quest. That's my goal. That's my
need right now.
Q Which -- there's two different goals that
you've stated there. Your current quest is?
A Current quest is to bring awareness for
missing children and what can happen when a child is
missing, though it be through a kidnapping, though it
be through what any other kind of means of what happen
to a child. Do everything I can to help that family
out and I've been doing that. I've been doing it.
Q All right. Now, you had indicated that prior
to Caylee being found in December, your desire in going
on television through the national media was to put her
face out there so if somebody saw her, that they would
contact somebody, law enforcement, your family,
something; correct?
A Yes.
Q All right. After that date, after the
remains were identified as Caylee's December 19th, I
believe that was, you also have made some media
appearances; am I correct?
A Yes, ma'am. And I'll keep on making them. I
will.
Q Okay. And is your sole purpose for those
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do you have another goal?
A About missing children, that's my number-one
goal, to let families know that if something like this
ever happens to them, what resources they can have
available, who to contact, contact me, understanding
that -- I can bring up Haleigh Cummings' case, who's up
there in Putnam County right there. I was up there on,
I think, the second or third day after this little girl
came up missing.
Q Right.
A I went up there to assist that family, to let
them know that besides the sheriff's department or
their local law enforcement, FDLE, myself, Brad, any
people that are associated with us, they can reach out
to us to help them.
If it -- and bring exposure. That's the only
way You're going to find a child. You need exposure
out there. You can't think you're going to find a -- a
child comes up missing on a Tuesday and you're going to
find them on a Wednesday, it just doesn't happen.
You'd love for that to happen, but it just doesn't.
Whatever we can do to bring awareness to the
kids, to join these national organizations. The list
goes on and on and on and on. I'm not doing it for me.
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You think I like being out in the media? I despise the
media because of what they've done to my family, what
they've released, what they've gotten information from
that supposedly is not supposed to get out to them, but
it gets to them.
You think I'm bitter? I'm angry about that.
I never wanted any of this.
Q Right.
A I never wanted to -- no disrespect to any of
you. I never wanted to be in this position, to come up
here and give a deposition on my family, about my
daughter, my wife, my son, about myself.
Q Right.
A But it's something I have to do. And I'm
trying to do it as nicely, as professionally, as
courteous as I possibly can. If I became a little bit
upset with any of you today, I apologize for that.
Q No. We're not offended.
A But you know something? If you were sitting
here and have went through the torture, the
humiliation, the tragedy, the people throwing stuff at
you, people spitting at you, people wanting to fight
with you when they don't know all of this, they don't
know all the circumstances, how would you feel? How
would you take it?
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Will you just say, okay, so what? It's
Monday, it's Tuesday, or whatever. It's a certain day.
You've got to -- I think -- I think my family has been
pretty good about controlling our temperament and
stuff.
But getting back to your media question,
yeah, I've went on the media. There's been a lot of
things I could have done we haven't done. We've
stepped away from a lot of the stuff. Brad will tell
you we have.
Q O k a y .
A Because there's certain things we just -- I
can tell you about our foundation we have established
for our granddaughter.
Q Right. I'm aware of that.
A We have the Caylee Bear Program that we've
given out to the Cleveland Clinic.
Q I know of that.
A We took bears up there and gave them to them.
My old sheriff's department I've given bears to.
Arnold Palmer Hospital we just gave bears to.
Q O k a y .
A That's what this foundation for my
granddaughter is about, in honor of her.
Q Now, let me ask you -- and again, I don't
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mean to offend you. One of the things that your wife
told us last week in response to questioning was that
CBS News, I believe that's 48 Hours --
A Okay.
Q -- is or has made some sort of arrangement
with you and your wife. What is your understanding of
your obligations under that contract?
A Well, they want to have a show for us, for
our granddaughter and for our daughter, to bring
awareness for the children and what we've been through
and what we continuously go through between now and
probably the time of my daughter's trial.
Q Okay. Have they offered you compensation for
that?
A There's going to be some compensation if we'd
like there to be, you know, some compensation. And --
Q What is that?
A Some monies and possibly to help us get
through --
Q How much money?
A -- to make our ends meet. Just a few
thousand dollars. It's not much at all. It's nothing.
It's nothing. Cindy is not working. I'm not working.
What would you do?
Q Okay. I'm -- like I said, I'm not
criticizing --
A I'm --
Q -- you. I'm just gathering information.
MR. CONWAY: Yeah. Just answer the question,
George. Don't, you know --
THE WITNESS: I'm not doing it to be wealthy.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: Okay.
THE WITNESS: I never have been, so -BY
MS. DRANE BURDICK:
Q All right. Aside from any sort of contract
with a television show, do you have any literary
agreements in the works with anyone?
A There's been a lot of people who have
approached us about that, but nothing has been
specific. No, ma'am. It hasn't been. Just, it
hasn't.
Q Okay. Have you traveled out of the area in
an effort to get a contract for a book about the case?
A I haven't specifically went to one particular
person or to a group of people and asked them to write
a book or something like that. I haven't done that.
haven't done it.
Q Do you know anyone who has?
A It could have been -- as a matter of fact,
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last couple weeks, I think.
Q Right.
A And it's going to be, I think, published or
something in September or October, something like that,
so --
Q O k a y . S o - -
A That's not something -- oh, we've got Larry
Garrison from California who exploited us.
Q Is he going to write a book?
A I under --
MR. CONWAY: That's --
THE WITNESS: I don't know.
MR. CONWAY: -- kind of a difficult question
because there are people writing books, and they
contact them and they don't participate, so it's
hard to ask that question and get a clear answer.
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BY MS. DRANE BURDICK:
Q Okay. Then I'll be specific. Have you
offered and accepted money in order for somebody to
write a book? Have you been offered and have you
accepted money, whether you've received the money or
not, accepted, that you have an expectation of
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A There could be something down --
Q -- movie --
A There could be some -- not a movie. There
could be something down the road for a book or
something like that, but it would be specific to what
we could do to assist families, to assist other
families. Nothing about me or Cindy or the so-called
case against my daughter or something like that. Just
something of that nature.
MR. CONWAY: I think she's asking whether
there was a contract for a book right now.
THE WITNESS: No. There's nothing for a
contract for a book right now. No.
BY MS. DRANE BURDICK:
Is there one in the works?
A There could be down the road somewhere.
Could be a year. Could -- who knows? I don't know.
don't really know yet. Nothing has been placed in
front of me and say, we want to write this particular
book.
MR. CONWAY: Does that answer your question?
MS. DRANE BURDICK: No.
MR. GEORGE: How about the word negotiations?
Have negotiations taken place?
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MR. BAEZ: Have -- are you asking Brad?
MR. GEORGE: No.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: No. No. He's not under
oath.
MR. ASHTON: I think the question is: Are
you negotiating with any party you can identify
about possibly gaining some remuneration from some
future literary project?
MR. CONWAY: Do you understand? Are you
doing it?
THE WITNESS: I'm not.
MR. ASHTON: Or is someone doing it on your
behalf?
THE WITNESS: I'm not. I'm not doing
anything on my own. I'm not.
MR. ASHTON: Is anyone to your knowledge
doing it on your behalf?
THE WITNESS: I think there's been some
negotiations or there's been something possibly
said down the road through -- you know, through
Brad here, but that's been about it. That's wide
open. That's something that is someone who has
come to us, but nothing we've agreed on; nothing
we've signed; nothing we say we're going to do.
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THE WITNESS: No. No.
MR. ASHTON: Sorry to interrupt.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: No. That's fine. That
was the -- going to be the end of my questioning
for now.
MR. CONWAY: Trying to get your answers
without asking the question, so --
MR. ASHTON: Frank, do you have -- you said
you were done?
MS. DRANE BURDICK: Yes.
MR. GEORGE: I was gone for a while. Linda,
did anybody ask -- I don't want to repeat the
questions.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: No. No. I didn't even
-- I didn't go there. No.
MR. GEORGE: Okay. I don't have any further
questions.
FURTHER DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q You indicated in answering questions from Ms.
Drane Burdick, you said you believe that this group of
men you've referred to are people who know more than
they are stating. In all candor, would you include
Casey in that group of people who know more than
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they're stating, in your opinion? This is just your
opinion.
A That's -- I mean, that's a fair question.
But I also believe that, like I said, these three,
possibly maybe even four people, I think they know a
lot more than what they're stating.
Q But I'm asking about Casey. Do you believe
Case knows more than she's saying?
A Okay. I'm going to answer this and also ask
you a question or ask you for something. To say yes to
Casey, but I'm going to ask you to open up the door to
let me talk to my daughter.
Q We have no control in any of that.
A I know. I get that every single day.
There's --
Q Y e a h .
A And that's the part that -- that's the part
that's different about law here in Florida and
different in Ohio. Up there, the sheriff is the keeper
of the jail. Down here, supposedly, the sheriff is --
Q W e l l - -
A -- he's basically just a figurehead. He
doesn't take care of the jail.
Q I read in some of these reports that
apparently in July or August, law enforcement did
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actually take you to the jail in order to meet
privately with your daughter.
A Uh-huh. They'did.
Q And that didn't happen --
A No. It did not.
Q -- because your daughter, on advice of
counsel, decided not to do it.
A She already had counsel, I guess, there at
that location that night. I had no control. I didn't
know of that until I got there.
Q I understand that.
A And after about two or three hours of us
sitting out in the parking lot twiddling our thumbs --
Q Right.
A -- it was determined that I couldn't get in
to see my daughter.
Q My point is, law enforcement did attempt to
-- to see to your request?
A Yeah. They did. After I begged -- after I
begged them.
Q O k a y .
A And that was after my dad -- my daughter had
written a letter to Sheriff Beary.
Q And as far as you know, your daughter, on
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Q O k a y .
A And I understand that. I understand that.
Q So you do -- you do -- this was when your
daughter was in jail before she got out on bond?
A I specific -- yeah.
Q Okay.
A I'm not sure what date it was. I can't
remember. I don't know.
Q Have you, in all of your discussions with her
friends and people that know her, have you found any
human being to whom Casey told this story before July
15th of 2008, the story of Zenaida taking Caylee?
Anybody?
A No. No one -- no one has came forward. No
one has said anything.
Q Have you found anyone who has indicated that
during that period of time between 6/16 and 7/15 that
Caylee appeared to be frightened or scared or
distressed in any way?
A Nothing that anyone ever told us about. No.
Q Have you found any indication of any
investigation by Casey of the whereabouts of her
daughter or anyone else between 6/16 and 7/15 of 2008?
Anything?
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A No. I have no information.
Q So as far as you're aware, it's correct, is
it not, that during that month period of time, Casey
was simply living the life of a single 20-something?
A I'm not going to agree or disagree with that.
I'm just going to just -- that's an assumption that you
have. I don't -- I don't know.
Q Well, I just --
A I just -- I can't answer that.
Q I'm just --
A Did I believe that my daughter and
granddaughter were together that period of time? I do.
Q I'm just exploring your investigation as to
whether it's revealed anything different than what we
-- what our investigation revealed; okay? That's what
I'm asking.
A Then again, I don't have that big 177 pages
or 176 pages of binder information that I had written
down. I don't -- I can't remember.
Q So --
A I'm sorry.
Q But you're fairly clear in your recollection
that you haven't ever talked to anyone to whom Casey
told this kidnapping story before July 15th? You're
pretty clear on that?
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A No. Because I -- I don't have the -- I just
don't have the answer. I don't have an answer for
that.
Q Are you aware that your daughter got a tattoo
on somewhere around 4th of July of 2008?
A I heard about that after all this stuff
happened. I didn't know anything about that prior.
Q Have you seen the tattoo on her shoulder
supposedly?
A I can't remember what the exact date was. It
was after she had come back home. I don't know if it
was the first or second time that she was brought home
from Orange County Corrections. I can't remember the
exact time.
Q What does it look like? What does it say,
the tattoo?
A Bella something. I don't know exactly what
it is. But I think it's on the right-hand -- up on her
right shoulder, if I'm not mistaken. I think it's
something about a beautiful life. I'm not really sure.
Q Beautiful life.
A Like I said, I briefly saw it. I'm not a
real tattoo guy, so to me I
Q O k a y .
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Q And that's not a tattoo she had before June
16th?
A Not that I know of. Not that I ever saw.
Q When you saw that tattoo and realized that
your daughter had gotten a tattoo during that 31-day
period that said, in some language, a beautiful life,
what was your reaction to that?
A I didn't have a lot of reaction at that
point. I didn't correlate the two together. I didn't
formulate any kind of thoughts. I didn't. I just -- I
just didn't do it.
Q Have you ever asked her why, during this
period of time when her daughter was away from her
against her will, that she found it necessary to get a
tattoo that said, a beautiful life?
A I never asked her about it. Never did.
MR. ASHTON: [Pause] Anything else?
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BY MS. DRANE BURDICK:
Q What's the most complex investigation that
you were involved with when you were a detective?
A I think I answered quite a bit about that a
few hours ago. I mostly worked, when I was a
detective, in auto theft. That was my -- probably the
thing that I concentrated most. But we did go back and
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forth because of the number of detectives we had, or
investigators we considered ourselves, and you
sometimes got different cases all at once. You never
did one specific thing.
Q O k a y .
A Whenever someone needed some help, you just
-- you did it.
Q Those were generalities about your
experience. I'm asking for --
MR. CONWAY: She's asking if there's
something real specific that was complex.
BY MS. DRANE BURDICK:
Q What have you investigated that was complex?
A Oh, we had a homicide of a family that was
killed up in -- right outside of Warren, Ohio, a small
town called Leavittsburg, a very affluential family. I
happened to be one of the investigators who ended up -I
won't call it breaking the case, but I ended up
getting the information to go arrest this one
gentleman.
Q Okay. Can you give me some details about
that case?
A It took just about a year to complete. The
case itself had to do with a gentleman using a gold-
plated sawed-off shotgun who took the life of these --
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this family. Basically almost like the same family
that lost their lives up here just in northern
Jacksonville that had all the children.
Q Right.
A Yeah. That was --
MR. ASHTON: Pensacola. Right.
THE WITNESS: Without getting too specific
with it, because it was just -- it was a long --
long, long process to bring this gentleman to jail
and escort him through and --
BY MS. DRANE BURDICK:
Q A year-long investigation?
A Yeah. It took almost a year to get
everything all together. It took a long, long time. A
lot of hours.
Q What did that -- okay. I was going to say,
what did that require of you besides a lot of hours?
A A lot of hours, a lot of footwork, paperwork,
a lot of traveling to, like, the FBI academy when we
had fingerprints we had to take to get -- perform --
when we found fingerprints on this particular house, we
couldn't determine who exactly it was and took the -the
lines and grooves. Had so many lines and grooves, we
had to be specific on what the gentleman had, a hair that
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I mean, the stuff that we did 20-some-odd
years ago is not what it is today. I mean, today it's
really awesome. But what we did back then, it was just
-- it was more time consuming than it is today. You
didn't get the DNAs back and you didn't do a lot of
stuff like that. Just -- I don't know. You're asking
a lot of tough questions there.
Q Have you been in the position where you're
interviewing a witness and it becomes apparent that
that person is lying to you?
A Absolutely.
Q And what's your reaction to that?
A Hate to say the word you play sort of good
cop/bad cop sometimes.
Q O k a y .
A There's ways that you find ways to get a
confession from someone, whether it be through a nice
conversation or an unorthodox way. I'm being honest
with you.
Q Okay.
A Just to say that you have to threaten someone
or -- yeah. You do what you've got to do sometimes, I
guess, in this world.
Q Why did you all hire Dominic Casey?
A I personally did not hire Dominic Casey.
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Dominic came on as a pro-bono thing to try to find our
granddaughter. I didn't specifically hire him. No. I
did not.
Q Did you ask him to conduct any sort of
investigations for you or on --
A Me specifically, no.
Q -- behalf of you?
A Me specifically, no. He was there to help us
any way he could. He felt compelled to help us.
Q And did you believe that he was helping at
the time?
A I believed he was helping us the best
possible way he could.
Q Did he report back to you the results of any
of his investigations?
A Not really. I mean, there was times that he
would give us information and say that he was looking
at this person or following that person, something like
that. But never really anything specific, so --
whether or not he was doing a good job, I really don't
know. I really don't have a lot of answers for that.
I just don't.
Q Okay. So you, as the person with
investigative experience in the family, were not the
one who kind of kept tabs on the investigator?
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A No. Because there was more stuff that I was
out there trying to do.
Q Okay. You had a different focus?
A Yeah. I mean, my -- I was involved in so
much different stuff, so --
Q Did you ask him to continue to follow up on
Jesse, Tony, Richard or Amy?
A I probably did from time to time. I'm not
really -- can't remember specifically what we did with
him.
Q All right. Do you recall any reports from
him regarding these individuals that were incriminating
in some fashion?
A Never saw anything written at all from him.
No.
Q How about a verbal report?
A Just whenever I would contact him and ask him
how things are going, he says he's out doing his
things. And I said: Okay. So --
Q W h e n - -
A Nothing really specific, no. There was
nothing really specific.
Q When did you find out that he had been in the
woods off of Suburban Drive?
A When everyone else did. When it was on the
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news.
Q Okay.
A I was -- I didn't know anything about it.
Q Have you questioned him about that since?
A The last time I talked to Dominic Casey was
at the time of my granddaughter's memorial. I haven't
talked to him since. I didn't talk to him after that,
during the memorial, nothing like that because I just
didn't. I just didn't talk to him.
Q Okay. Is there a reason for that?
A No. Not really. Not really.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: All right.
FURTHER DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q Just one last question. You've kind of
already said this, but I want to make sure it's clear.
You -- do -- I know your wife does not, but do you
accept that the remains on Suburban are the remains of
your granddaughter?
A No. I don't. No. I don't. Because there's
too many --
Q O k a y .
A -- releases or there's too many things that
have been given out there, and I still haven't see that
yet, and I'd sure like to see it.
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Q What would you like to see?
A I would like to see if these particular
procedures that are performed on that can identify that
being exactly my granddaughter. And --
Q Like the DNA reports or --
A DNA. I also understand there's something
about the tibia or something like that, or whatever it
was.
Q Yeah.
A I'm probably off base here, but I would like
to see that stuff.
MR. ASHTON: Well, you know, your attorney is
more than welcome to ask us for whatever you'd
like to see. It's all public record, as you well
know.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: Except for the photos.
MR. ASHTON: Except for the photos.
MS. DRANE BURDICK: Right.
THE WITNESS: I don't want to see no photos.
MR. ASHTON: Right.
THE WITNESS: The day of the autopsy was hard
enough for me to stand up in front and ask not
that to be released.
BY MR. ASHTON:
Q So other than, you know, not having actually
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seen the documentation, is there any other reason?
Because your wife and your son both had different
reasons. But is there any other reason why you don't
accept that as Caylee?
A Because I just can't believe that Caylee is
gone.
Okay.
A That's from a grandfather's point of view
and --
Q That's understandable.
A -- I just don't.
MR. ASHTON: That's okay. Okay. Anything,
Frank? Last chance? Jose?
MR. BAEZ: Yes. I just have a couple.
MR. ASHTON: Andrea, you still there?
MR. BAEZ: Andrea?
MS. LYON: Still here. Just muted.
MR. ASHTON: Okay.
MR. BAEZ: All right.
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BAEZ:
Q George, I just have a couple questions that I
feel compelled to ask. Has Casey ever told you that
she killed Caylee?
A No.
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Q Has Casey ever told you that she harmed
Caylee in any way?
A No. She never has.
Q Has Casey ever told you that Caylee died by
an accident?
A No. She never did.
Q Has anyone ever told you -- and this includes
Cindy and Lee -- that Casey told them she killed
Caylee?
A No.
Q Has anyone ever told you that Casey harmed
Caylee in any way?
A No. No one has ever told me that she harmed
Caylee.
Q Has anyone ever told you that Casey had
anything whatsoever to do with either harming Caylee or
her disappearance?
A No.
Q Have you come across any evidence whatsoever,
whatsoever, that Casey did something to Caylee?
A No. I have no evidence whatsoever. None
whatsoever.
MR. BAEZ: I have no further questions.
MR. ASHTON: Andrea, anything from you?
MS. LYON: No. I think that's everything.
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Thanks, everybody. Sorry about --
MR. ASHTON: Last chance once around the
room.
MS. LYON: -- the trouble here.
MR. ASHTON: Brad? Anybody?
[No response]
MR. ASHTON: All right.
MS. LYON: All right. Bye, everyone.
MR. ASHTON: We're concluded.
THE REPORTER: Read or waive?
MR. ASHTON: Read or waive?
MR. CONWAY: Read.
[Whereupon, the reading and signing of the
deposition was reserved.]
[Whereupon, the foregoing deposition was
concluded at 6:10 p.m.]
[Whereupon, Exhibit Number 10 was marked for
identification at the conclusion of the
deposition.]
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C E R T I F I C A T E
STATE OF FLORIDA:
COUNTY OF SEMINOLE:
I, Dawn R. Matter, Electronic Reporter and
Notary Public, State of Florida at Large, do hereby
certify that I reported the deposition of GEORGE A.
ANTHONY, and that the said witness was first duly sworn
by me.
I further certify that the foregoing pages
numbered 3 through 334, inclusive, prepared under my
direction and supervision, constitute a true, complete
and accurate transcript of said witness to the best of
my skill and ability.
I further certify that I am not of counsel
for, nor related to any party herein or attorney
involved herein, nor am I financially interested in the
outcome of this action.
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NESS MY HAND AND OFFICIAL SEAL this 13th
day off—October 2009.
DAWN R. MATTER, Marge Raeder Court Reporter, Inc. Electronic Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida at Large.
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71:24 71:25
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284:16 289:24 305:9 306:1 306:2 314:20 324:12 324:16
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235:10 240:3 249:3 252:15 252:20 253:1 254:15 258:3 280:3 297:3 304:6 306.9 31611-311.1-318:8 319:7 322:16 325:9 325:10 327:6
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attorneys(1) 2:6
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25:10 25:11 27:15 33:1 324:24
automobile(3) 10:13 11:16 24:4
autopsy()) 331:21
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avenue(3) 2:7 2:25 4:6
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babysitter's(3) 181:18 182:2 185:4
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46:12 46:12 49:17 50:5 56:3 65:16 79:16 82:3 83:20 84:8 84:20 85:5 85:12 86:11 86:13 89:2 89:9 89:13
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46:20 248:7 248:16 259:24 290:15
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assistant(3) 2:6 73:11 123:3
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assisting(1) 205:8
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assumption(4) 57:10 190:24 244:2
athletles(3) 46:22 60:20 70:11
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242:20 252:3 254:22 254:24 256:14 276:24 308:6 308:6 312:6 323:11 324:25 327:3 327:5 328:14
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268:12 269:15 289:8
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188:3 190:6 191:9 191:10
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65:11 65:12 81:11 103:4 117:6 117.7 131:16 187:13 244:7 253:20 300:18
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131:11 131:15 132:12 137:11 186:1 187:3 187:8 202:20 205:24 239:5 319:22 326:1
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basketball(1) 46:23
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bates(1) 261:16
bathing(1) 269:10
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beige-color(1) 214:8 beliefs(1) 289:3
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146:13 179:7 238:16 269:10 293:10 293:11 328:12 335:12
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bedroom(4) 192:14 192:16 192:18 241:24
bigger(1) 180:5 bike(4) 47:15 49:1 49:24 50:1 bill(2) 214:24 218:5 bills(4) 85.6-86:10 86:23 87.1 __ bin(1) 222:25 binder(2) 292:1 322:18 bins(]) 227:21 biological(2) 9:6 9:8 birth(3) 7:19 35:24 38:6 birthday(5) 143:21 143:25 144:20 144:23 267;11
bother(4) 81:15 95:1 132:4 215:2 bothered(2) 40:15 133:8 bothers(1) 133:7 bottom(1) 111.2 _____________ bought(6) 128:4 158:9 164:12 164:19 168:17 219:18
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bradley(1) 2:24 brain(1) 292:22 brainstorming(]) 265:12
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238:5 281:18 282:21 284:11 299:11 305:19 323:12
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busy(1) 16:7 button(3) 155:21 269:3 269:18 buttons(1) 269:12 buy(4) 35:5 164:24 165:6 204:19 buying(2) 158:21 168:15 by-eleven(1) 180:11 bye(1) 334;8 c-seetlon(1) 38:8 calendar(1) 144:11 california(4) 79:23 152:14 292:8 315:9 call(33) 11:3 50:20 51:24 59:5 70:25 71:18 103:20 106:12 147:25 148:7 155:19 155:23 155:24 155:25 156:2 157:5 173:23 186:15 194:3 205:22 217:23 231:10 231:11 231:14 232:3 237:17 243:6 243;9 243:12 271:18 271:19 304:4 325:18
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car(89) 12:24 30:7 51:15 51:16 51:24 51:25 75:18 75:21 75:21 75:23 75:23 75:24 76:2 76:8 76:18 77:23 77:24 77:25 78:2 78:8 78:11 78:12 78:17 78:24 79:2 100:11 169:16 172:3 178:23
casey(271) 1:16 5:2 29:4 35:21 36:6 36:8 38:10 44:22 47:8 48:15 52:20 55:25 56:13 56:22 57:8 57:12 57:18 59:18 59:22 59:23 61:11 71:1 71:14 72:15 73:14 78:22 79:6 79:20 80:5
caylee(171) 90:7 90:8 90:9 90:12 90:19 94:25 95:18 95:19 96:1 97:2 98:7 99:4 99:9 103:8 107:1 107:2 115:23 116:3 116:12 116:17 116:21 118:2 118:25 119:2 119:7 121:14 121:14 122:6 122:8
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209:5 214:4 214:10 216:9 218:23 carrler(4) 153:20 154:6 154:10 154:12 232:15 233:10 233:11 233:24 234:6 219:24 229:11 237:14 239:9 239:10 carriers(1) 154:11 234:20 235:25 236:3 237:4 237:15 caylee's(20) 93:15 96:10 97:8 97:21
41:2 241:9 244:18 244:18 245:11 carry(2) 173:14 267:14 238:1 238:14 240:7 240:14 240:15 135:14 141:2 156:15 156:18 174:13 245:22 246:16 248:2 248:12 255:6 carrying(1) 180:21 241:5 241:20 241:21 241:25 242:2 174:13 181:1 198:17 198:23 198:24 257:17 264:6 264:9 277:18 277:24 cars(13) 10:14 10:14 10:15 25:20 28:10 242:14 243:6 245:8 245:10 245:17 205:3 242:17 252:19 273:5 283:21 279:16 287:18 287:18 291:14 291:14 28:10 28:11 28:11 28:19 54:19 100:4 245:25 247:8 247:11 247:14 247:22 309:20
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322:9 322:19 323:10 323:13 329:9 332:5 cart(2) 41:4 42:11
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"Bingo) 156:19 cellphone(4) 184:10 185:22 231:20
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259:20 263:20 264:20 264:21 265:15 265:24 270:19 279:13 279:25 280:3 283:20 284:16 285:14 287:10 290:11
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168:7 168:15 168:17 169:3 188:2 188:6 330:5 332:23 333:1 333:4 333:8 333:11 188:14 188:19 188:24 189:8 189:15 333:15 333:20 cereal(2) 127:11 150:14 189:25 190:7 192:25 193:4 193:8 195:3 certain(24) 5:22 16:25 33:8 45:21 195:16 195:18 195:20 195:22 196:23 casey's(12) 35:24 69:19 88:7 125:9 74:10 100:6 100:10 106:20 108:23 199:2 199:24 207:9 207:16 299:16 146:22 147:4 147:17 216:4 233:17 109:14 110:21 118:14 151:8 153:2
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caught(2) 287:19 299:8 challenge(1) 13:21
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cause(10) 83:2 83:7 95:7 110:8 115:19 chance(13) 27:11 66:10 73:7 95:15
115:21 116:5 118:8 122:14 132:24 100:19 123:15 145:25 172:4 214:21
244:11 252:14 332:13 334:2
caused(5) 83:10 87:25 117:11 117:14 120:23 change(6) 44:25 51:8 51:8 60:10 60:23
89:18
causes(1) 87:8 changed(8) 40:4 51:3 213:13 213:19
278:25 279:1 279:3 279:7
changes(4) 59:22 201:6 202:8 205:1
changing(4) 278:6 278:7 278:8 278:14
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Impter(1) 35:1 ..haracter(2) 72:24 304:18 characters(2) 174:19 179:22 charcoal(1) 192:3 charcoal-gray(1) 180:2 charge(2) 151:2 296:6 charisma(1) 72:25 charts(2) 92:5 97:19 check(9) 50:18 81:3 109:13 113:22 150:2 214:18 232:17 301:17 301:19
checked(1) 120:22 checking(6) 33:16 108:3 109:12 113:1 152:20 281:8
checks(2) 80:18 188:5 chef-type(1) 223:7 chicago(4) 2:20 5:4 5:5 65:6 child(45) 24:7 36:2 48:2 57:6 63:14 63:22 63:22 72:2 72:2 72:8 91;23 94:2 95:11 95:11 95:20 95:23 96:8 97:16 97:25 98:1 98:19 98:23 99:4 99:19 121:17 121:23 121;25 123:11 123:22 123:22 127:14 129:20 129:21 129:21 186:24 266:25 267:24 268:6 274:11 291:15 291:15 309:7 309:10 310:18 310:20 child's 3O98:11 179:21 180:4 child-proof(1) 268:15 children(40) 21:14 21;17 24;11 30:22 38:9 43:7 43:10 43:13 43:17 44:6 44:9 44:20 45:8 45:9 45:16 45:18 45:21 47:2 48:6 52:8 55:14 60:1 63:2 63:6 "6:9 63:11 63:12 64:5 75:18 100:9
122:2 274:5 279;20 303:3 308;25 309:7 310:1 310:3 313:10 326:3
children's(2)106:18 302:25 chitchat(2) 188:21 232:2
chlorophyll(1) 302:15 chuck(1) 194:3 chuckle(1) 189:13 chuekled(1) 190:7 cl-ci(1) 270:19
c h l o r o f o r m ( 2 ) 3 0 2 : 8 3 0 2 : 1 1
cindy(205) 11:1 20:2 20:13 20:16 20:20 20:21 20:21 21:2 22:23 23:5 24:12 29:25 30:10 32:4 32:13 33:4 33:13 33:21 33:22 35:6 36:6 36:7 37:4 37:5 39:3 42:21 55:10 55:12 55;14 60:24 60:25 65:1 83:8 85:6 85:13 85:25 86:1 86;2 87:22 88:11 88;14 88:21 89:21 89:21 94:2 97:4 97:11 97:20 100:15 107:3 107:25 108:14 109:2 109:5 109:10 110:1 110:24 111:3
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187:18 188:3 189:12 190:5 190:25 197:15 198:2 198:2 201:8 201:13 201:17 202:16 202:18 203:14 204:11 205:4 205:4 212:23 213:15 214:2 214:6124:20 214:7 214:11 214;13 215:2 215:18 216:1 216:9 217:8 217:19 218:1 218:18 230:3 230:16 230:22 231;14 232:8 232:24 233:20 234:4 234:9 235:5 235:14 235:19 237:17 237:18 237:22 241;18 241:22 241:23 243:18 245:1 245:10 245:21 246:11 247:7 247:11 247:17 248; 14 248:19 :
3 2 4 9 : 6 2 4 9 249:25 251:11 252:4 252:5 252:13 258:13 265:1 265:11 265:21 270:18 280;2 280:14 280:15 290:12 296:10 296:24 297 298:19 298 296:14 296: 297:3 297:6 : 296: 3 297 3 0 0 2 5 12 302:2; : : : 2 1 303: 2 302 4 303 313:23 316:8 333:8
cindy's(14) 30:20 31:3 37:23 86:24
87:13 102:6 110:14 126:22 126:23
143:25 185:10 233:17 233:19 279:14
circle(3) 226:19 226:25 227:7
circuit(2) 1:1 1;2 circular(2) 226:18 227:3 circulation(4) 58:2 58:4 58:10 58:11
closeness(1) 126:23 closer(3) 39:23 49:4 162:12 cloth(1) 158:23 clothes(10) 180:23 192:9 192:13 192:14 192:15 192:18 198:15 198:24 268:21
269:3 clothing(2) 180:25 198:10 clouds(1) 92:4 club(2) 289:10 289:22 clubs(1) 290:24 clumsy(1) 268:12 coat(2) 100:21 269:9 cocaine(2) 17:19 18:6 cocker(1) 303:16 coffee(3) 150:7 150:15 175:9 college(3) 12:17 13:7 21:11 co1onial(2) 72:22 73:11 color(3) 179:20 192:4 223:18 coloring(2) 175:12 271;10 combination(1) 211:24 come(53) 23:20 30:18 34:3 34:24 44:1
49:5 49:14 50:5 50:16 50:25 51:2 78:1 80:2 81:25 83:24 91;13 123:18 132:14 135:6 135:8 135:14 138:5 149:1 152:24 157:7 181:20 184:24 218:20 220:24 231:10 232:25 233:4 234:2 238:8 244:5 245:16 245:19 264:3 265:10 273:7 273:25 283:11 287:17 290:20 294:20 308:25 311:10 315:1 317:23 323:11 333:19
comes(12) 84:12 99:18 124:1 125:18 126:4 131:25 134:12 161:17 191:21
235:14 263:16 310:20
comfort(3) 62;18 173:14 173:20 coming(25) 11:17 32:12 48:14 50:11 59:18 122:4 148:4 148:16 152:20 175:10 180:22 193:23 200:9 207:11 219:22 240:25 241:4 241:7 241:20 242:16 246:16 258:11 277:14 278:5 285:1 command(7) 170:8 170:13 173:1 173:4 249:20 249:21 281:14
comment(4) 76:16 115:16 119:10 comments(1) 185;8
complete(9) 10:19 14:7 73:8 74:2 74:21 201:22 226:19 325:23 335:11
completed(3) 34:21 73:18 73:23 completely(8) 28:22 68:14 68:15 83:11 223:21 227:2 227:3 229:3
completing(2) 61:21 71:24 complex(3) 324:20 325:11 325:13 complexes(1) 41:6 computer(7) 5:4 61:18 64:14 267:19 301:12 301:12 302:5
concentrated(2) 275:22 324:25 concentrating(]) 240:3 concentration(1) 177:4 concern(9) 37:21 81:16 87:25 91:22
115:15 115:16 120:23
128:14 230:21
concerned(22) 24:14 87:21 92:18 92:18 97:15 103:11 113:4 115:2 115:14 1 2 1 : 4 1 2 7 ; 1 6
1 3 7 : 2 1 185:9 186:4 186:8 218:20 232:7 232;12 251:14 251:16
2 7 6 : 1 3 2 7 6 : 1 7
concerning(1) 276:20 concerns(8) 114.10 115:17 116:11
121:18
121:24 131:16 132:3 133:2
concluded(3) 224:2 334:9 334:16 concluslon(1) 334:18 concrete(6) 201:8 201:9 203:20 204:19
298:11 299:1
conditIon(1) 207:24 conduct(1) 328:4 confer(1) 144:9 confession(1) 327: 17 confined(1) 258:19 confiscated(1) 167:7
confrontation(3) 113:7 113:17
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claus(1) 275:4 cleaned(2) 123:1 229:21 cleaner(1) 75:14 cleaning(3) 75:15 100:4 100:4 clear(7) 120:5 142:3 170:22 315:17 322;22 322:25 330:16
clearly(1) 114:5
clinic(3) 33:14 44:7 312:17 clock(1) 150:6 close(9) 12:9 30:21 56:22 58:7 103:5 141:4 175:8 186:8 205:21
closely(2) 17:8 45:9
C l e v e l a n d ( 1 ) 3 1 2 : 1 7
commission(1) 300:20 commItted(1) 7:2 common(2) 113:16 138:23 communIcate(5) 63:4 63:22 187:2 241:17 249:15
connnunicated(2) 241:22 254:18 communication 14 63:8 147:19 184:2 184:8 241:11 246:11 246:14 249:13
250:5 264:20 264:21 265:7 265:24 270:12
communications(2) 247:17 273:8 community(2) 11:24 14:18 commute(3) 12:10 12:11 12:15 comp(3) 29:17 68:16 68:23 companies(1) 66:24 company(14) 25:18 25:23 51:15 52:16 66:15 67:18 67:21 103:3 131:3 138:14 199:6 231:7 295:17 300:17
comparison(2) 9:12 9:19 compelled(4) 286:3 293:25 328:9 332;23 compensated(1) 59:1 compensation(3) 313:13 313:15 313:16 compilation(1) 197:11
113:19 confronting(1) 109:2
confuse(i) 165:9
confused(1) 128:21 confusion( I) 263:10 connected (1) 291:12 consciously(1) 173:9 consecutive(1) 184:19 consIder(6) 10:20 31:15 31:24 42:22
66:11 141: 18
considerable(1) 107:21 considered(16) 10:16 25:6 26:2 73:24 78:11 98:15 98:20 135:12 136:23 136:24 139:16 142:9 142:10 219:3 295:23 325:2
consistent(]) 230:12 consistently(1) 57:21 constantly(1) 121:24 constitute(1) 335;11 consultation(1) 7:9 consumes(1) 37:1 consuming(]) 327:4
contact(16) 72:1
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contacts(1) 143:1 contalner(4) 156:14 156:16 158:23 223:11
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context(9) 119:10 120:10 122:23 126;7 '31:25 134:12 140:2 140:21 249;2
continue(2) 23:11 329:6 continuous(1) 139:25 continuously(]) 313:11 contract(6) 296:5 313:7 314:10 314:18 316:12 316:14
contributing(2) 89:17 120:25 control(4) 68:4 68:8 319:13 320:9 controlling(1) 312:4 convenience(1) 5:18 conversation(34) 64:21 72:14 72:17 74:13 92:13 93:3 110:13 112:23 112:24 143:5 143:12 177:17 184:11 184:16 184:25 185:5 185:22 197:2 197:15 231:1 238:11 239:3 241:16 245:5 245:17 248:14 249:3 251:1 255:4 274:19 280:10 305:4 305:14 327:18
conversations(20) 79:12 88:7 142:22 176:19 176:25 177:10 196:22 242:14 243:2 244:15 245:25 249:24 251:10 251:11 256:1 260:6 264:22 264:23 267:14 284:9
converse(1) 63:4
conversing(2) 219:8 251:2 conversion(3) 10:16 25:21 26:2 conversion-van(1) 28:21 conversions(1) 25:24 converted(1) 26:1 convince(1) 64:20 anway(28) 2:24 4:25 4:25 5:16 5:24
0:5 111:22 112:1 112:6 134:21 134:23 144:16 161:17 161:21 164:7 172:20
266:20 280:20 293:21 314:4 315:12 315:14 316:11 316:22 317:9 318:7 325:10 334:12
cooler(2) 154:17 157:21 coolers(1) 153:10 cooperated(I) 242:11 cop(2) 190:13 327: i4 cop/bad(1) 327:14 copied(1) 261:21 _________________ coples(5) 250:24 293:15 307:15 307:17 307:22
copy(1) 244:22 cordial(1) 247:25 corner(5) 40:7 49:6 49:15 50:6 215:16 corporal(1) 63:11
correct(33) 15:5 21:3 38:17 78:18 98:16 114:1 131:10 143:19 144:14 152:15 154:14 161:10 171:19 174:14 187:22 199:25 202:2 207:4 209:21 209:22 209:25 211:18 220:1 230:13 243:21 244:8 264:15 264:17 281:23 308:17 309:17 309:22 322:2
correction(1) 336:6 corrections(3) 323:13 336:4 336:15 correctly(4) 33:15 65:15 112:21 117:8 correlate(1) 324:9 corresponded(1) 250:18 wrespondence(1) 250:13
%:ost(1) 217:1 couch(1) 175:8 could-do-about-anything-s1 268:5
counselor(3) 71:1 71:19 73:12 counselors(1) 71:12 counter(1) 104:16
counties(2) 17:7 17:25 country(1) 17:17 county(24) 1:3 13:25 14:1 14:2 14:4 14:7 14:24 15:6 15:10 17:7 17:11 17:12 17:20 19:17 72:22 74:8 152;10 218:8 234:7 234:13 251:4 310:8 323:13 335:3 couple(37) 17:25 23:9 39:8 47:22 67:9 67:15 74:20 91:14 123:17 124:18 129:9
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dad's(2) 101:18 145:23 daddy's(1) 57:1 daily(8) 26:22 26:25 96:13 96:14 97:20 187:10 257:10 280:17
dal-dalmatians(1) 271:3 dalmatians(1) 271:2 damage(1) 219:15
dark(2) 179:25 301:3 dark-colored(1) 192:3 date(21) 7:19 66:16 70:23 80:10 81:5 152:8 166:6 166:6 200:24 204:12 204:17 213:19 254:24 264:9 295:15 298:15 304:25 305:3 309:19 321:8 323:10 dated(1) 92:9 dates(6) 100:11 166:22 201:17 201:18 292:18 293:7
daughter(74) 90:13 90:25 91:22 93:21 96:23 99:10 102:11 103:7 104:21 108:3
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fingerprint(1) 208:3 fingerprints(2) 326:20 326:21 finish(1) 91:13 finished(2) 13:9 69:21 first(56) 4:15 4:19 15:1 26:24 29:11
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five-and-a-half(2) 12:18 16:15 five-foot(1) 201:12 five-foot-one(1) 104:19 five-foot-seven-inches(1) 259:12 five-week(2) 169:2 169:4 five-year-old(1) 10:15 Ilve/six(1) 147:6 fleeting(1) 97:2 flipped(1) 253:25 floor(3) 212:4 212:4 212:5
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70:10 139:2 248:2 248:9 248:10 248:20 287:9 321:11
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fully(1) 27:25 function(2) 117:1 117:3 functions(1) 71:11 ands(4) 87:5 87:12 87:16 87:18
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june(45) 121:12 130:4 130:5 130:8 127:8 127:11 127:23 128:3 128:6 143:20 143:22 143:25 144:6 144:22 132:11 132;12 132:20 132:20 133:3 166:11 166:12 166:13 167:12 168:9 133:13 134:1 134:14 134:14 134:15 168:21 169:6 178:14 184:1 184:17 136:19 137:23 138:1 138:3 138:4 138:9 184:25 187:23 187:24 187:24 187:25 139:8 139:12 139:16 142:3 142:16 201:1 201:5 201:19 201:20 202;2 202:6 142:23 144:11 144:12 .145:20 145:21 202;6 202;19 203:3 205:17 206:9 147:7 148:17 148:19 149:10 149:11 209;12 210:14 211:12 215:20 295:14 150:2 150:4 150;12 150:16 150:24 295:15 298:12 300:12 303:21 324:1 151:4 151:9 152:20 152:25 153:13 _______________________________ 154.19 154.25 156.20 156.23 157.3 _
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john(2) 241:2 241:14 jobnson's(6) 214:13 214:16 215:16 216:7 216:12 217:20
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16:10
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knowledgeable(1) 304:20 knows(5) 202:8 263:24 287:5 316:18 319:8
324:11 325:6 325:23 326:2 326:8 327:3 327:6 327:21 328:22 329:17 330:8 330:9 330:15 332:5 332:11 332:14 332:17 332:22
k-marf(1) 170:1 keep(28) 8:21 23:24 67:2 91:9 91:11
95:20 102:14 113:22
114:17 114:21 114;21 114;24 122:4 122:4 153:25 154:25 156:15 173:3 173:5 212:20 227:17 227:19 250:4 250:16 264:1 300:9 309:1 309:23
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keypad(2) 278:12 278:13
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kadak(1) 131:3 lack(I) 285:12 ladder(3) 303:20 304;12 304:22 lady(8) 215:11 216:13 236:21 239:7
271:2 284:18 314:25
lady's(1) 239:4 laid(2) 66:1 204;3 lake(2) 191:10 257:16 lakes(2) 103:4 104:4 lanai(2) 201:9 299:3 land(1) 232:4 landscaping(2) 201:6 202:8 language(1) 324:6 lapse(1) 72:7 large(13) 4:9 15:4 42:7 84:21 126:17 162:12 171:3 205:23 262:20 299:6 299:25 335:5 335:25
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STATE V. ANTHONY -1 GEORGE ANTHONY DEPO 8-5-09.WPD
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leaves(1) 44:2 115:25 116:13 118:3 178:3
leaving(10) 178:3 178:18 187:17 188:3 226:6 304:6
leavIttsburg(1)325:16 4(5) 65:4 180:21
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letter(6) 214;19 215:10 217:2 249;22 250:14 320:23
letters(11) 79:19 246:15 246:16 249:25 255:20 255:22 305:16 305:17 305:19 305:22 305:24
letting(1) 308:12 level(2) 126:22 126;24 leveling(1) 204:8 liberty(2) 49:25 50:1 lie(2) 238:21 249:5 llfe(26)21:6 24:5 24:11 43:24 67:10 96:10 96:16 97:8 97:21 98:11 99:1 103:16 106:19 124:5 133:19 224:19 255:15 273:4 273:5 291:16 322:4 323:20 323:21 324:6 324:15 325:25
ligaments(1) 68:14 light(1) 198:15 ______________________________ 234:17-234:21 237:6-238:7 238:22 ____
180:2 180:16 182:6 186:7 186:12
188:21 190:12 191:23 192:6 192:12 193:10 193:13 193:23 193:24 193:25
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194:4 195:7 195:19 196:1 196:23 198:11 198:12 198:13 201:1 201:11 201:21 203:16 204:7 204:17 206:22 207:3 207:13 208:2 208:4 208:21 210:1 211:14 214:7 214:22 215:9 215:17 215:24 216:21 217:7 218:24 222:1 223:7 223:11 223:17 223:18 223:23 224:5 225:5 225:25 226:10 226:16 226:19 226:25 227:7 227:8 228:11 229:23 231:20 232:19
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like(62) 274:6 274:7 274:8 274:17 275:9 277:2 278:19 279:7 279:18 281:1 281:5 281:7 283:15 285:19 287:24 289:17 291:1 291:4 292:16 293:10 294:2 294:20 294:25 295:16 295:16 296:12 296:19 298:5 298:16 299:5 300:4 301:20 301:23 301:25 306:15
313:16 313:25 314:21 315:5 316:6 307:7 307:7 307:22 308:11
310:4 311;1
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likes(1) 288:18 linda(3) 2:3 4:22 318:12 line(5) 232:4 261:2 262:6 303:19 336:6 lines(2) 326:23 326:23 liguld(3) 221:22 223:11 227:16 228:12 228:13 229;21 232:2 232:7
locations(3) 25:18 296:4 296:7 lock(17) 188:15 211:12 211:15 211:18 211:20 211:23 211:24 211:25 212:2 21213 2127 212:8 212.9 212:20 213.13 213:16 213:17
locked(3) 211:17 211:19 225:4 Ioeking(1) 304:22 Ioeks(8) 278:4 278:6 278:7 278:8 278:14 278:25 279:2 279:8
lodged(1) 119:24 logo(1) 52:18 long(30) 8:21 16:14 18:13 19:25 21;6 23:14 24:19 27:7 38:10 38:12 42:25 44:10 51:10 68:22 102:7 105:8 152:12 159:14 184:16 186:21 189:7 189:24 190:18 217:21 229:18 326:8 326:9 326:9 326:14 326:14
longer(3) 54:11 181:17 184:22 longest(1) 184;18 look(16) 41:18 41:18 67:1 85:16 92:21 106:22 146:18 181:2 181:3 195:7 196:23 222:10 258:18 261:23 263:17 323:15 looked(8) 162:23 188:13 221:10 248:10 272:11 276:11 276:22 307:9
look:1ing(5) 32:25 79:9 225:15 256:18 328:17 328
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Word Page:Line Word Page:Line Word Page:Line Word Page:Line looks(5) 85:19 159;10 160:5 160:7 'qose(1) 227:25
Josen(1) 45:10 lose(3) 64:11 64:12 64:12
losing(3) 115:15 115:16
230:8 loss(1) 65:10 lost(7) 65:16 140:9 150:16 241:11 279:14 295:17 326:2
ot(95) 8:16 16:5 17:22 17:23 19:18 23:25 24:10 28:16 28:18 29:16 32:8 36:12 56:23 59;10 60:19 65:10 65:16 65:18 72:11 72:24 72:24 79:9 81:15 87:16 87:18 91:24 92:25 93:1 94:1 95:10 95:12 97:17 110:9 120:5 133:12 145:22 173:19 186:11 194:15 195:13 203:23 212:16 219:3 248:9 248:19 251:11 257:15 257:20 260:16 263:3 265:5 268:14 268:17 271:3 271:11 274:21 275:23 276:4 276:6 276:8 277:15 277:17 281:13 282:10 283:2 285:7 285:10 286:11 288:13 289:11 289:16 291;1 292:15 292:18 292:23 300:9 305:13 305:13 306:19 306:21
324:8 326:15 326:17 326:18 326:18 326:19 327:5 327:7 328;21
oud(1) 211:2 lounge(2) 175:5 175:9 love(3) 96:25 186:17 310:22 loved(4) 30:25 30:25 123:22 179:4 loving(1) 268:5 lowe's(3) 169:25 204:20 204:21 Tucky(1) 65:23 anch(6) 91:12 102:16 104:9 112:13
127:10 191;4
lying(]) 327:10 lyon(23) 2:18 5:1 5:3 8:20 9:2 140:6 140:8 140:11 140:14 140:16 147:24 148;6 155:16 155:18 155:21 155:25 157:13 157:16 280:6 332:17 333:25 334:4 334:8
ma'am(2) 309:23 314:15 machine(1) 151:25
307:3 312:7 312:9 314:13 319:6 320:13 making(10) 97:16 103:6 141:6 185:8 195:13 222:1 266:10 266:11 266:13 309:23
male(1) 124:5 mall(1) 231:9 mallory(2) 270:21 279:11
mallory's(1) 272:14 mama(4) 135:6 135:8 135:14 174:4
man(3) 93:17 117:2 278:19 manager(8) 25:6 26:22 27:7 58:4 58:10 104;24 105:12 296:3
manager's(1) 105:5 managers(1) 51:22 managing(2) 58:13 296:8 manual(1) 268:8 manufacturing(1) 11:16 many(35) 9:22 25:17 40:14 43:3 43:3 57:13 144:21 218:9 225:4 234:7 235:3 235:9 235:10 235:10 235:10 239:23 244:4 253:1 253:5 253:8 253:8 254:1 255:25 257:9 260:7 260:8 265:3 265:3 266:25 278:25 285:1 298:6 326:23 330:21 330:23
marathon(1) 91:17 march(1) 251:4 merge(]) 335:23 marle(1) 1:16 marijuana(4) 17:18 17:24 261:5 262:11 mark(1) 183:1 marked(5) 3:3 4:12 183:1 183:3 334:17 marriage(5) 21:16 21:25 36:17 118;20 133:10 133:
married(12) 21:2 21:2 22:25 23:3 23:6 23:10 23:11 23:14 24:19 24:24 87:20 115:4
math(]) 9:15 matter(61) 4:8 19:11 20:15 29:24 31:23 34:8 34:9 35;6 36:7 37:5 39:20 40:5 54:24 55:5 55:20 57:15 71:9 73:9 81:14 86:23 88:13 89:19 106:2 109:4 109:21 134:4 138:18 146:22 158:5 174:22 178:12 181:1 204;8 204:20 207:2 207:12 208:6 217:15 217:17 229.16 23820 240.17 242.21 243.3
mean(178) 8:13 14:11 16:2 19:7 22;17 22:20 26:14 26:17 32:15 37:25 43:17 48:20 51:7 52:12 53:24 56;23 56:23 56:25 59:1 59:2 59:4 59:25 60:3 60:4 61:5 61:14 61:17 61:23 62:21 62:24 63:2 63:19 64:1 64:2 70:10 70:14 70:14 70:15 71:12 71:22 77:3 77:7 79:10 79:17 79:18 80:1 82:1 82:22 87:6 87:10 87:25 88:17 89:19 90:1 90:2 92:9 93:14 95:22 95:22 97.14 97:17 98:9 98:10 98:11 101:17 110:16
110:18 115:5 115;10 116:15 117:21 '
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124:10 125:2 125:19 125;22 126:5 126:10 126:25 127:5 127:13 128:19 129:9 129:22 135:23 138:25 139:3 145:22 146:15 147:5 150:5 151:1 151:5
158:15 159:25 160:4 162:22 170:2 170:20 170:21 173:19 173:20 176:23 185:24 186:6 186:7 192:19 205:3 205:6
205:19 215:21 220:12 221:25 223:8 223:10 224:22 226:10 227:21 237:10 238:15 238:23 239:21 244:21 244:21 252:23 253:1 253:4 253:7 253;17 254:1
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306:10 308:11 313:1 319:3 327:1 327:2 328:16 329:4
meaning(2) 226:22 280:20 means(6) 6:12 56:8 100:16 133:12 254:19 309:9
meant(8) 20:20 53:3 53:24 77:23 145:22 254:14 254:20 284:17
meat(1) 300:2 media(8) 281:19 308:16 309:14 309:21 311:1 311:2 312:6 312:7
medlation(1) 111:23
media to 113:14
met(22) 11:1
11:2 19:23 20:2 20:14 20:16 20:24 22;22 22:23 37:6 94:18 94:20 140:23 188:3 190:5 191:9 216:12
217:16 247:22 258:25 286:16 294:25
metal(6) 159:23 193:24 195:23 195:24 210:3 211:14
meth(2) 17:19 18:7 methodical( 1) 160:25 middle(16) 10:18 11:23 12:1 12:2
39:17 49:18 49:19 49:25 53:22 56:8 57:12 57:19 67:7 69:14 70:12 290:5
midnight(7) 41:11 41:20 42:14 42:17 42:19 43:15 45:3
midnights(5) 42:2 44:1 51:2 51:4 52:4 midwestern(1) 11:7 might(49) 26:17 29:18 32:11 43:16 44:21 48:20 61:6 63:24 63:25 64:18 66:25 67:3 70:20 100:5 100:22 110:1 115:18 145;24 151:11 154:22 166:7 178:1 181:7 186:9 194:14 202:16 220:25 241:7 241:20 245:10 247:4 248:8 248:22 248:23 250:16 252:18 253:4 253:7 253:24 260:25 261:17 264:10 265:4 268:24 274:11 276:14 285:2 287:9 294:16
tulles 216:20
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106:21
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mine(10) 13:21 22:21 76:2 100:1 101:11 151:11 163:22 188:20 261:18 286:6 minor(2) 12:20 61:23 minute(4) 69:23 140:6 200:25 275:13 minute-and-a-half(1) 112:3 m1nutes(22) 91:14 133:18 135:1 176:12 178;13 189:22 190:18 191:14 191:20 191;24 192;19 196:14 228:20 231:16 232:2 234:6 234:16 234:23 236:19 238:17 242:9 300:25
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mac1iines(1) 152:7 made(42) 23:21 24:5 76:16 86:16 86:17 86:18 86:19 106:13 106:15 117:5 119:7 147:9 150:14 165;16 165:21
165:23 166:14
170:10 176:5 182;23 188:1
189:22 196:23 214:25 215:18
225:17 234:10 234:11 250:24 254:3 266:17 266:19 279:6 281:20 282:17 293:4 293:15 294:1 305:1 309:21 313:5 336:5
madhouse(2) 235:7 235:7 maggots(3) 221:24 224:3 224:4 mahoney(1) 17:11 maiden(1) 21:23 main(2) 17:20 278:18 maintain(1) 42:25 maitland(1) 294:7 make(36) 5:25 22:12 26:19 29:18 30:22
31:1 34:12 49:16 98:1
98:25 99:13 106:24 110:23
113:20 113:22 121:24
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makes(3) 142:20 216:19 218:14
244:1 25021 2548 256:4 258:17 259:2 272:21 272:23 280:25 285:17 289:19 290:11 295:14 297:24 314:24 335:4 335:22
matters(1) 5:12 max(1) 19:14 may maybe(107) 14:10 14:11 16:15 19:11 19:13 19:14 23:7 24:13 26:16 27:4 27:9 28:11 28:18 28:19 30:4 30:4 36:14 36:20 36:23 43:21 44:11 45:4 46;20 46:25 47:14 48:17 49:8 50:22 51:3 52:13 52:22 58:18 59:4 60:14 61:13 61:21 62:24 63:24 64:13 69:11 78:6 84:7 94:11 103:17 104:25 105:1 115:23 115:24 115;24 118:19 122:19 123:24 124:2 125:3 126:11 126:25 126:25 127:8 127:8 128:1 135:3 135:17
137:2 140:1 143:24
147:6 148:20 149:19 184:5 184;5 184:20 185:25 189:5 190:1 190:18 192:19 196:1 201:12 203:2 203:3 203:5 209:15 216:3 222:13 228:19 234;16 234:17 234:18 234:23 234:23 238:17 240:7 240:8 247:13 265:17 265:19 265:20 266:15 267:17 272:8 290:5 293:9 299:24 300:2 300:3 304:18 319:5
meet(20) 29:18 34;12 45:5 48:20 71:11 93:10 93:18 94:13 94:24 95:1 95:15 101:20 122:4 141;25 142:1 190:25 191:6 217:14 313:21 320:1
meeting(8) 177:23 178:1 181:16 182:5 191:24 246:25 247:19 249:14
meets(I) 288:1 melich(2) 238;6 241:2 member(3) 20:14 74:9 82:9 members(4) 80:8 126:19 135:5 231:6 memorlal(2) 330:6 330:8 memorles(2) 276:6 276:8 men(4) 103:21 241:12 282:20 318:23 mental(2) 267:13 267:16 mentally(1) 238:24 - mention(5) 135:16 235:15 264:2 273:19 274:15
86:9 192;20 196:6 259:16 mentioned(71 ) 278:3 289:5 303:19
message(5) 184:3 187:3 200:20 231:25 296:25
messy(1) 221:13
misplace(1) 292:13 miss(2) 102:16 186:25 missed(3) 185:18 185:18 283:18 missing(23) 165:7 166:22 174:9 188:7 233:23 235:15 266:25 286:2 290:7 291:15 292:7 293:3 302:25 303:2 307:3 307:3 308:25 309:7 309:8 310:1 310:3 310:10 310:20
mistaken(10) 39:5 80:19 142:17 144:1 165:17 166:4
186:10 197:6 244:7
323:19
mitehell(2) 73:10 74:1 mixed(1) 196:4 mixture(1) 196:2 mode(2) 103:25 193:20 models(1) 28:15 mom(29) 10:12 48:7 56:25 60:22 62:17
85:12 91:22 95:6 95:7 96:5
118:25 121;22 123:20 124:6 124:20
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127:2 127:2 181:9 181:9 192:11 192:22 192:23 192:24 232:13 232:17 232:21 251:17 279:14
mom's(1) 193:22
STATE V. ANTHONY -1 GEORGE ANTHONY DEPO 8-5-09.WPD
moment(8) 92:21 123:6 148:10 148:19 '50:24 234:1 236:9 284:23
moments(1) 165:18 mommy(1) 270:19 moms(1) 101:10 monday(3) 149:24 215:3 312:2 money(24) 75:19 77:3 77:11 79:2 80:7 81:22 83:9 84:3 84:4 84:19 84:22 85:3 86:3 87:2 87:9 89:13 100:12 217:10 217:12 313:20 315:22 315:24 315:24 316:1 money-wise(1) 127:19 monies(7) 77:19 85:5 85:11 103:6 118:14 127:20 313:18
monitoring(1) 53:12 monkey(1) 179:22
month(6) 13:10 26:15 77:16 85:4 90:19 322:3
months(24) 18:14 18:25 19:11 23:7 23:9 24:23 39:8 54:22 54:25 57:24 68:2 68:21 69:10 77:8 86:12 114:2 121:14 121:20 134:4 172:25 197:7 267:10 267:18 276:24
morales(3) 248:16 282:19 294:5 more(100) 25;12 26:19 30:2 30:2 44:3 44:3 45:1 47:1 49:16 52:2 52:3 52:5 52:6 52:10 53:9 57:6 57:8 57:8 62:25 67:17 71:4 82:14 84:16 87:21 88:10 89:11 89:11 89:17 90:21 98:10 99:3 110:7 110:7 110:8 114:14 115:12 115;14 115:16 117:24 118:15 118:19 24:1 125:5 132:4 132:7 132:8 132:15
132:25 141:18 150:14 151:10 154:9 155:2 161:20 169:24 172;24 173:20
186:2 187:1 189:16 192:8 197:1 214:20 238:12 240:23 251:11 256:25 282:21 291:20 318:23 331:13
239:16 239:17 239:18 240:3 241:5 242:5 242:12 243:24 251:18 256:1 256:2 256:24 258:2 265:15 267:7 282:10 285:11 287:22 288:1 291:1 291:21 295:6 306:8 308:6 318:25 319:6 319:8 327:4 329:1
morning(25) 4:17 4:18 43:10 106:9 124:9 149:4 149:6 149:20 150:10
150:12 175:2 175:4 175:7 175:12 176:4 176:5 176:21 178:7 188:9 238;3 238:7
238:23 240:14 247:14 275:18
mortgage(1) 35:7 most(12) 41:25 55:6 57:1 58:9 137:7 141:3 196:19 196:19 252:13 285:25 324:20 324:25
mostly(6) 58:15 58:17 295:21 324:23
mother(6) 10:6 10:10 135:14
mother's(3) 89:1 89:2
121:10
10:12
89:5
265:11
57;8 95:10
mother/daughter-type(1) 61:5 motors(1) 25:9 lount(2) 31:3 145:17
_nouth(2) 91:20 209:10
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need(30) 72:10 82:1 108:4 108:4 108:5 127:24 133:13 133:17 134:1 134;21 134:25 136:5 175:19 175:22 179:13 214:18 214:19 215:11 217:13 229:2 232:22 233:3 236:8 236:12 239:16 239:17 242:4 306:2 309:3 310:18
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neighbors(2) 45:20 188:20 neither(4) 6:25 123:11 225:13 246:13 nejame(1) 293:19 nervous(1) 277:14 netting(1) 158:13 network(1) 178:10 never(137) 8:24 8:25 8:25 22:5 37:1 37:5 37:7 37:9 37:10 45:19 62:24 63:2 63:6 63:10 63:10 63:12 63:13 63:13 65:2 65:2 65:11 79:3 86:17 86:18
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nanny(7) 107:9 139:5 139:5 139:7 139:9 139:11 139:13
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nights(3) 43:2 147:6 184:19 nightstand(1) 212:17 nighttime(1) 52:7 niles(8) 8:1 10:24 11:2 11:4 11:5 23:3 23:4 23:5
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moved(10) 8:3 11:3 25:14 31:2 34:22
39:4 39:7 100:23 130:3 298:24
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V. ANTHONY -1 GEORGE ANTHONY DEPO 8-5- 09.WPD Word Page:Line Word Page:Line Word Page:Line
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47:7 50:25 65:24 66:15 67:4 69:5 69:5
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204:14 210:5 210:9 211:11 211:17 212:24 212:25 213:2 213:8 213:20
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october(5) 121:11 130:8 315:5 335:19 336:18
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192:4 201:21 201:22 202:19 202:23 203:5 204:15 204:15 206:1 206:6 206:7 210:20 227:8 235:2 240:18 245:1 253:25 255:11 259:23 263:4 268:21 291:10 294:11 296:11 298:19 304:23 329:24 331:10
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offices(2) 42:9 100:4 official(1) 335:18 often(2) 19:4 138:25 ohio(23) 7:25 8:1 8:2 8:2 11:2 11:10
11:11 11:12 12:6 23:4 33:11 34:4 34:16 34:17 34:18 34:21 35:21 35:21 35:25 36:17 38:17 319:19 325:15
okay(301) 7:14 8:9 9:15 9:16 10:9 10:17 11:17 13:24 14:13 14:19 15:13 15:19 16:11 17:3 17:10 19:9 19:15 20:13 20:23 21:10 21:14 21:20 22:15 22:19 22:22 23:1 24:1 24:7 24:22 25:2 26:9 27:3 27:13 27:16 27:20 27:23
28:1 28:9 29:22 31:21 32:6 32:17 33:4 33:17 33:19 34:3 34:6 34:10 35:4 35:12 35:20 37:4 37:8 38:3 38:10
38:14 38:19 39:2 39:7 39:25 40:13 40:16 40:22 40:25 41:12 41:15 41:24 42:12 42:20 43:4 43:8 43:20 43:23 44:8 46:11 47:17 47:23 48:5 48:19 48:23 49:3 49:5 49:9 49:19 49:21 50:13 51:9 53:7 53:11 53:16 54:2 54:5 54:18 55:15 56:12 57:2 57:12 57:17 57:25 58:9 58:16 58:20 59:7 62:10 64:8 64:17 64:23 64:25 65:3 66:5
67:12 67:17 68:6 68:10 68:19 68:22 68:25 70:2 73:25 75:1 76:4 76:16 76:21 77:4 77:11 78:1 78:17 78:22 79:1 79:5 81:7 84:10 85:1 85:9 85:17 85:24 86:8 86:20 89:23 91:11 91:16 91:19 92:23 93:23 94:18 96:3 96:6 97:24 101:14 101:21 101:23 102:9
102:13 103:10 105:18 112:4 113:9 113:21 114:4 116:1 116:8 117:13 120:8 121:2 122:12 126:13 128:23 128:24
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okay(175) 209:7 213:6 213:23 214:20 215:18 215:24 218:21 220:24 221:6 223:20 223:24 227:15 227:17 228:4 228:14 229:4 230:4 232:6 232:17 232:21 232:23 233:15 236:5 236:8 236:13 238:19 239:16 242:7 242:10
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269:12 269:22 270:2 270:10 271:22 271:24 272:6 272:15 272:18 273:3 273:12 274:1 274:3 274:24 275:14
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321:7 322:15 323:24 325:5 325:21 326:16 327:15 327:20 328:23 329:3 329:19 330:2 330:10 330:22 332:7
332:12 332:12 332:18
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100:23 103:25 159:16 210:2 267:9 293:9 298:7 312:20
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45:10 46:9 48:7 52:8
occasion(7) 147:17 167:13 168:10 169:10 171:17 197:11 240:13
occaslonal(7) 36:14 36:20 36:22 46:25 52:6 300:3 303:9
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number-one(2) 141:6 310:3 numbered(1) 335:10 ,umbers(1) 4:11 numerous(1) 19:18 nurse(2) 20:14 94:2 nursing(2) 123:3 145:16 nurturing(1) 96:24 o'clock(19) 58:18 111:17 111:20 112:1 148:21 149:6 149:20 150:12 190:6 190:14 191:1 191:2 228:19 229:23 231:15 232:19 233:16 238:7 300:22
oldest(1) 10:1 on-call(1) 103:3 once(13) 19:3 39:3 39:7 44:24 137:2 1210T1 209:15 21279-22417 236:1 __
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occupation(1) 139:13 occupations(1) 10:11 occur(5) 84;6 90:6 92:14 92:14 92:16 occurred(2) 122:7 142:3
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palnful(2) 186:20 186:22 pair(1) 100:21 palama(1) 183:16 palmer(1) 312:21 paper(7) 207:7 208:8 215:7 227:18 227:19 228:1 228:5 44:25 57:4 57:7 58:3 60:19 62:25 65:2 222:24 226:19 228:2 228:3 228:13 65:18 83:13 84:2 84:5 95:12 96:15 231:10 231:23 233:20 233:21 234:18 papers(1) 65:12 106 :14 1 10 :3 1 10 : 4 11 3 : 3 1 13 : 8 114 :1 1 23 5 :1 4 24 0 : 4 2 44 : 5 245 :19 2 46 :18
paperwork 326:18
121:3 126:8 128:13 131:3 133:10 247:6 248:6 249:21 253:5 253:22 256:2 paron(1) 26225 135:5 135:6 136:17 138:22 139:2 256:6 256:9 256:16 256:17 256:23 parent(5)d 57:7 62:24 72:1 117:20
139:22 150:24 152:8 152:25 166:3 257:2 257:11 258:3 258:4 25.8:7 259:25 parents(18) 8:6 8:7 8:8 9:7 9:8 10:3 166:21 168:22 170:9 170:16 177:25 263:23 264:17 265:13 265:15 266:15 10:9 30:20 30:20 31:3 31:6 48:1 61:24 180:22 196:8 196:22 203:13 204:3 267:2 273:4 273:25 275:20 276:23 100:7 100:24 101:5 124:13 279:14 205:1 217:18 221:12 225:6 225:18 276:25 277:7 278:12 281:16 282:6 242:15 243:1 243:17 244:4 254:18 283:10 284:12 284:19 284:23 287:8 257:8 258:9 261:6 262:12 264:22 265:9 287:15 287:17 289:14 289:22 290:2 265:24 273:9 274:5 275:23 284:5 290:21 294:20 296:14 300:18 304:17 284:25 287:9 287:11 290:16 290:21 307:8 308:19 308:20 309:11 309:15 291:18 294:25 295:1 308:24 309:9 310:15 310:19 311:1 311:4 312:17
316:7 331:25 332:1 332:3 314:17 315:1 320:13 321:5 329:2 329:18 329:23 330:24
otherwise(1) 56:18 oue(1) 305:3 outcome(1) 335:17 our(146) 15:8 15:9 15:10 16:24 17:7 outgoing(1) 59:25 17:25 20:7 25:8 25:8 30:13 30:13 outlets(1) 281:20 43:18 45:18 45:18 45:20 45:23 45:24 outright(1) 78:21 47:2 47:11 53:20 55:13 62:23 63:2 outsfde(9) 11:4 158:23 178:20 220:13
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1:7 32:19 33:12 37:6 39:22 40:3 40:8 40:10 40:16 41:8 43:9 47:5 47:21 49:8 54:10 54:16 55:2 56:6 57:6 57:7 57:7 58:4 59:12 62:15 62:17 62:17 62:24 62:24 65:2 65:7 67:18 75:12 80:18 84:12 89:6 93:8 93:25 96:22 98:24 100:1 100:15 101:11 101:12 102:18
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opposed(7) 50:16 51:4 52:3 119:18 143:6 143:13 211:23
orange(10) 1:3 2:7 2:25 4:6 72:22 74:8 218:8 234:7 234:13 323:13
order(5) 199:23 209;20 210:15 315:22 320:1
ordinary(3) 176:20 178:6 182:7 orena(3) 40:20 41:2 42:6 organizational(]) 151:12 organizations(1) 310:24 organize(1) 153:4 organized(2) 151:1 151:10 originally(2) 74:12 75:22 orlando(24) 1:25 2:8 2:27 4:7 31:10 31:12 31:17 32:1 40:20 40:21 41:1 42:6 55:2 55:15 57:23 65:7 65:18 141:12 141:16 234:12 239:10 263:12 300:19 336:4
orthopedic(3) 30:16 33:14 44:7 other(91) 7:7 9:3 9:23 15:22 16:7 16:19 17:7 19:2 22:5 24:4 41:5 42:1
out(223) 5:20 7:21 13:3 16:11 18:9 ownership(1) 78:7 25:3 27:14 27:23 27:24 28:7 30:5 32:4 owns(1) 65:7 32:9 32:21 33:7 33:24 36:23 42:3 ownself(1) 60:9 43:22 44:6 45:9 45:13 46:1 51:21 p.m(1) 334:16 52:16 54:11 60:5 60:16 62:16 62:24 pa-pa(3) 271:20 271:21 271:21 62:25 63:24 64:9 68:15 69:2 69:12 pacing(1) 233:20 69:25 70:20 70:22 70:24 72:8 73:2 74:5 77:2 78:9 78:22 81:9 83:4 84:7 pack(1) 22:4 87:13 90:16 91:20 99:10 99:21 99:21 pad(3) 180:13 201:9 298:11 100:7 100:11 100:23 102:12 103:4 padtlia(2) 284:22 306:24 103:19 104:1 106:16 108:5 108:5 page(11) 258:13 260:24 261:3 262:4 111:24 112:7 112:25 113:1 115:23 262:5 262:6 263:7 263:9 263:9 296:25 119:2 120:10 120:25 122:25 125:18 336:6 126:5 128:4 131:22 132:13 137:16
one-on-one(1) 31:24
ones(7) 10:16 99:21 164:24 228:6 228:7 244:15 244:20
ongoing(1) 111:5 online(1) 73:5 only(36) 6:4 6:19 7:1 57:23 72:19 73:4 75:18 96:12 99:25 101:11 101:12 103:6 120:25 124:4 129:13 133:21
134:5 137:2 145:18 156:17 156:21 -168:4-191-.23-21-31-5-21-7:5-221-19 ____ 226:2 228:6 238:24 250:18 254:25 259:22 282:12 283:22 283:24 310:17
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opened(8) 58:1 123:11 215:19 220:11 221:19 228:24 228:25 228:25
opening(1) 220:15 openly(1) 6:13 opens(1) 194:24 operate(1) 209:20 operation(1) 295:22 operations(I) 26:22 opinion(6) 60:3 61:6 219:25 224:24 319:1 319:2
Anions(1) 120:4 opportunities(1) 31:11 opportunity(8) 40:19 72:1 79:19 79:22 199:7 238:1 275:21 287:25
pages(6) 275:19 139:10 147:6 150:7 150:13 151:2 151:3 322:18 335:9 152:2 152:9 152:10 153:20 164:12 165:13 166:3 166:10 169:18 172:14 175:14 176:19 178:6 178:22 182:6 182:11 185:25 187:8 188:10 189:13 190:19 190:19 190:21 190:21 193:4 193:8 194:4 194:6 194:14 194:16 194:17 194:18 197:9 198:16 199:6
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park(9) 137:20 257:7 257:15 257:16 258:9 259:16 260:13 263:12 263:15
parked(2) 172:3 219:2 parking(t) 320:13 parks(1) 257:8 part(30) 21:9 27:10 28:4 29:24 30:14 36:18 51:5 74:17 77:6 88:7 103:2 117:7 118:3 118:4 120:19 123:23 128:14 129:7 130:11 131:21 154:5 155:5 159:15 187:22 198:4 210:2 218:18 266:20 319:17 319:17
63:5 63:8 75:18 78:4-784-3 78:16-79:1 22812 23317 233:20 30415-3251-15— Part-time(1) 106:12 91:1 91:1 96:19 97:14 100:17 103:5 108:3 109:14 111:4 112:12 112:22 118:12 121:4 126:16 136:22 137:20 138:6 142:1 147:22 151:23 151:24 152:20 153:13 158:6 163:9 170:12 172:25 175:5 186:16 186:16 188:3 190:6 190:20 192:25 194:19 198:21 201:9 201:9 201:9 201:10 201:10 202:12 203:15 203:15 205:19 205:19 205:21 214:2 214:7 214:12 215:20 215:21 216:2 216:3 217:12 217:16 218:7 218:7 218:13 219:2 223:11 226:12 227:20 227:20 227:21 228:15 232:3 232:3 232:10 233:20 234:19 241:24 242:20 243:8 243:19 244:3 overheating(I) 143:12 247:25 248:9 258:18 258:19 262:17
overlap(1) 44:17 262:18 263:21 270:16 270:17 270:18 272:21 278:8 278:13 278:22 279:17 overpowering(1) 220:2 284:6 284:9 284:19 285:1 291:25 292:1 overseeing(1) 25:7 299:2 299:3 299:3 303:8 303:10 owe(I) 218:14
303:12 303:16 303:17 304:17 307:4 owed(1) 253:3 312:4 312:13 312:14 313:9 313:9
313:21 320:13 322:15 328:1 ours(3) 5:18 123:23 217:18 ourselves(2) 74:15 325:2
partially(2) 117:25 120:17 over(63) 5:18 5:23 18:19 25:13 25:17 Participate(3) 5:7 243:14 315:16 26:1 27:17 36:24 38:21 40:4 40:22 particular(45) 17:2 17:5 42:10 50:21 51:9 51:12 67:1 67:22 76:11 78:7 63:25 64:16 66:7 69:17 84:12 92:6 92:10 92:10 100:2 118:8 118:13 118:14 94:22 103:19 127:6 150:25 151:7 152:8 118:21 127:8 139:19 152:24 161:7 153:1 156:12 160:20 162:3 162:17 161:9 162:3 162:19 167:25 169:14 162:18 162:23 163:5 169:23 170:4 171:7 171:15 171:18 174:23 175:10 173:13 189:9 198:9 199:5 200:6 227:7 181:18 182:1 182:4 188:21 200:3 208:2 231:13 243:13 247:6 254:24 274:17 208:10 208:15 209:24 210:7 210:8 277:20 285:8 287:20 291:13 314:19 210:15 212:22 219:1 219:7 220:14 316:20 326:21 331:2 222:6 222:25 248:9 248:20 265:6 276:7 276:10 277:15 289:8 partition(1) 219:4
parts(3) 17:16 58:3 128:11 party(3) 64:16 317:6 335:15 pass(1) 294:1 passed(2) 265:20 275:20 passenger(2) 179:3 194:24 passlon(2) 79:21 137:19 past(6) 191:16 193:3 194:19 205:18 225:15 279:3 own(37) 27:14 27:14 28:6 28:6 28:8
30:13 34:3 76:25 91:23 95:17 95:24 95:25 98:25 99:22 100:7 100:19 101:16 path(1) 14:21 102:12 117:20 118:23 119:2 121:23 patlo(2) 203:1 203:15
142:2 147:8 186:23 192:17 261:21 patrol(4) 41:4 41:5 42:4 42:11 270:1 279:17 287:3 287:18 289:14 patrolling(1) 42:4 289:16 293:5 293:24 294:4 317:15 patrols(1) 42:11
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paver(2) 206:4 206:5
pavers(2) 203:18 205:20 pay(12) 67:9 74:5 76:22 76:25 77:11 86:11 86:13 87:9 87:10 87:10 89:13 98:21
paycheck(1) 106:19
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pleked(3) 135:8 262:24 262:25
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223:8 223:8 223:9 223:12
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130:20 141:8
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328:23
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243:10 243:15 264:22 264:23
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221:17
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pouring(2) 203:1 298:10 practical(1) 98:5 pre-
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64:12 privileges(1) 7:7 pro-bono(1) 328:1
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198:20 198:21 198:23 235:5 237:12 242:1 260:4 296:1 297:19 334:3
rosenberger(2) 21:23 21:24 rotating(]) 193:22
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roughly(3) 16:16 84:9 84:11 round(7) 195:22 195:24 196:6 200:16 229:4 264:1 264:1
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136:8 138:9 204:1
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207:10 207:16 207:22 207:23 211:6 297:18
r e t u r n i n g ( 1 ) 1 8 1 : 1 3
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review(1) 276:2
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right-hand(1) 323:18 rlser(1) 149:10 road(8) 2:13 67:22 215:17 216:7 253:25 316:5 316:17 317:20
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63:15 64:13 67:4 70:13 71;6 72:18 73:14 74:4 74:4 74:10 75:5 76:8 77:21
82:21 85:14 89:23 93:6 93:7 93:9 93:23 94:4 94:13 95:4 95:9 95:14 97:11 104:16 104:18 104:19 104:23 105:8 105:13 106:3 106:5 107:25 108:4 108:9 109:8 109:13 109:19 109:22
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185:19 186:7 186:14 187:9 188:13 188:22 189:14 189:14 189:15 189:23 190:1 190:1 190:2 191:23 192:6 192:11
192:13 192:20 192:23 193:1 193:7 193:16 193:16 193:17 193:21 193:21 193:22 194:11 194:12 194:13 194:14 194:19 194:21 195:6 195:6 195:6 195:9
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232:15 232:23 232:24 233:3 233:3 233:7 233:23 234:21 236:18 237:4 237:7 239:9 239:14 239:16 239:20
241:8 241:9 242:2 242;2 247:12 249:10 251:3 251:9 251:16 253;24 254:4
257:14 258:8 258:10 259:2 259:9 259:19 261:4 262:16 263:10 264:10 264:24 270:12 272:9 272:13 274:17
275;9 276:1 276:14 278:7 278:9 278:11 279:6 280:14 281:7 282;1 282:2 283:4
283:5 283:6 284:1 289;17 290:2 294:20 _295.3 295.10_297.14 298.5 299.5 ___ 300:12 304:8 304:9 304:10 304:13 304:16 305:23 307:9 313:25 317:20 318:9 318:22 319:4 321:16 323:22 324:6 324:15 329:19 330:16 335:7 335:12
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say(111) 5:20 18:14 19:13 24;3 47:8 56:24 66:3 66:4 69:15 71:22 72:9
72:18 80:1 82:19 83:17 83:20 88:2 88;5 92:4 92:17 100:6 100:16 101:7 103:18 103:20 106:15 107:18 108:16 109:17 112:4 114:16 115:22 118:11 122:22 123:14 123:18 124:3 125:16 125:17 127:15 129:5 132:20 133:3 133:17 137:13 138:24 139:24 141:2 146:17 155:5 161:8 171:2 175:18 178:16 182:13 192:18 193:2 193:19
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283:11 285:9 294:2 300:3 312:1 316:20 317:24 319:10 323:15 326:16 327:13 327:21 328:17
saying(21) 71:1 71:19 74:2 88:6 89:10 108:10 110:4 119:13 125:3 164:19 203:6 203:7 215:8 221:8 235:19 236:25 251:5 254:7 262:22 263:25 319:8
said(284) 9:17 11:18 12:2 17:15 22:22
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september(7) 7:20 8:3 34;24 55:7 291:9 291:10 315:5
service(8) 25:7 25:10 25:11 214:9 216:7 217:14 226:7 295:24
set(7) 5:15 33:12 64:24 124;13 150:6 153:2 195:16
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seven-ish(1) 53:5
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106:24 110:23 216:19 218:15 238:25
says(65) 30:3 36:8 55:5 74:7 88:11 89:22 93:7 93:19 93:19 104:18 104:24 105:7 105:15 105:22 105:24 106:4
108:2 108:2 108:17 109:5 109:7 109:8 111:5 116:23 116:25 123:12 126:9
141:12 181:7 181:7 185:3 185:6 186:10 186:16 192:22 192:24 193:21 194:6
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schedules(2) 44:17 51:7 schism(2) 115:19 116:12 school(65) 10:18 10:18 10:19 10:22 12:3 12:15 12:21 38:17 38:25 39:18 39:18 39:19 44:20 44:24 45:5 46:22 47:7 47:9 47:10 47:16 48:2 48:14 48:21 49:18 49:19 49:25 50:5 50:22 53:13 53:19 53:22 56:8 56:10 56:13 57:12 57:19 57:19 60:20 61:21 69:19 69:21 69:21 70:9 70:12 70:12 71:11 71:25 72:20 72:23 73:4 73:8 74:8 74:13 74:18 79:7 79:17 79:24 79:24 80:13 80:14 80:16 80:19 84:7 92:11 99:21
schooling(1) 10:19 screaming(]) 129:19 sereen(2) 147:22 148:2 sereened(1) 201:9 screened-1n(1) 299:3 screw(1) 297:14 screws(1) 212:16 seal(1) 335:18
search(7) 170:10 280:18 280;23 291:25 several(1) 275:19 3 0 2 : 7 3 0 2 : 1 0 3 0 2 : 1 7 s e v e r a n c e ( 1 ) 6 7 : 9
severe(1) 118:8 shampoo(1) 128:2 sharing(1) 26:12 she'd(9) 53:19 106:9 123;18 137:23 175:6 192:1 192:2 271:19 274:25
secur1ty(14) 40:24 41:7 42:8 42:9 55:2 249:5 250:5 251:12 255:4 257:23 263:25 316:11 319:8 325:10 55:17 57:23 57:24 67:14 138:13 173:23
300:17 300:17 305:2
seeing(9) 79:19 131:17 131:17 145:22 146:24 151:9 198:16 244:10 301:9
seeking(1) 51:21 seem(4) 8:15 140:8 148:4 151:21 seemed(6) 31:11 45:25 47:1 245:16 270:23 277:2
shed(23) 159:22 160:9 163:25 164:4 164:23 164:24 165:2 165:13 167:3 168:24 188:10 188:11 189:2 189:3 196:15 196:21 199:2 207:13 207:14 211:12 212:1 299:15 299:16
sheet(1) 215:7 shelf(6) 153:7 153:9 153:23 154:9 155:5 227:20
salesman(1) 40:11 samantha(1) 263:21 same(23) 35:9 37:4 53:20 53:22 61:23 97:9 97:13 107:7 124:5 126:16 126:16
127:15 144:24 185:14 189:2 189:3 206:19 212:7 232:4 258:16 276:25 299:16 326:1
cmdaIs(1) 179:11 Anford(1) 260:17
santa(2) 275:3 275:6 sat(1) 32:18 saturday(2) 52:6 145:14 saturdays(1) 145:2 save(I) 77:19 sawed-off(1) 325:25 Page ,2A__
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she'll(3) 9:14 89:22 89:22 she's(52) 9:18 9:20 10:7 38:1 44:1 52:22 56:8 56:8 56:9 60:1 72:9 79:7
84:6 89:4 101:12 104:19 104:21 108:1 108:5 108:6 108:7 108:19 108:21 108:23 110:16 110:17 113:13 118:11 118:19 118:19 120:20 123:23 127:2 127:24 147:23 183:12 185:19 186:9 186:10 186:11 192:10 234:4 236:1
shelfing(1) 172:2 shelves(1) 227:22 sheriff(6) 16:24 16:24 249:22 319:19 319:20 320:23
Sheriff's(34) 14:1 14:2 15:2 15:6 15:10 16:19 17:11 17:12 27:22 166:4 166:14 167:7 168:18 188:2 189:18 189:21 195:8 196:24 207:4 234:7 234:10
234:18 234:22 237:6 242:3 249:18 291:23 292:10 292:11 293:4 306:21 307:11 310:13 312:20
shift(15) 41:11 41:20 42:14 42:21 42:24 43:16 44:19 55:18 55:22 57:22 138:15 295:21 295:21 300:21 304:2
shifts(2) 43;6-107:1 shirt(7) 183:12 183:14 183:15 183:18 183:21 183;22 269:18
shirt-button(1) 269:20 shirts(I) 100:21 shocked(1) 241:19 shoes(3) 100:21 221:12 268:9 shook(1) 195:19 shop(1) 169:25 shopped(1) 169:24 short(6) 71:20 72:3 152:10 248:5 249:11 252:8
shortly(2) 121:13 293:1 shorts(1) 179:11 shotgun(1) 325:25 should(13) 30:1 33:8 85:18 98:21 103:17 119:13 147:25 148:2 154:13 154:17 234:14 268:16 336:5
shoulder(2) 323:8 323:19 shouldn't(4) 32:22 37:22 64:20 186:19 shovel(3) 205:12 206:3 302:23 shovels(2) 299:12 299:14
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some(194) 5:12 7:21 13:15 17:16 17:18 17:18 17:19 19:22 24:4 31:24 33:13
33:15 48:1 48:3 54:22 54:23 57:8 147:8 67:14 70:15 73:14 75:19 77:2 80:4 82;3 82:8 83:2 83:7 84:19 85:6 87:25 88:14 89:20 92:9 92:14 95:15 98:21 99:20 100:2 102:20 103:6 103:14 106:15 107:21 115:10 117:6 117:11 118:6 121:7 126:11 126:22 126:23
127:5 127:6 128:1 130:19 132:14 133:10 136:3 138:10 144:19 145:19 :19 150:14 150:14 150:14 150:24 152:5 152:7 153:11 153:24 156:16 158:8 158:9 161:8 169:18 171:17 172:14 173:22 175:9 176:4 176:23 179:10 179:11 179:14 182:9 186:12 188:20
188:21 191:4 192;3 192:8 192:15 192:18 197:12 197:14 198:10 198:15 201:8 202:11 202:11 202:12 202:16 203:13 204:6 204:7 204:20 205:4 205:5 206:17 212:17 214:6 217:2 217:3
217:17 217:18 217:19 218:14 218;21
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262:11 262:11 265:13 266:13 266:14 269:11 270:20 273:8 275:24 275:24 277:23 278:3 278:7 279:6 280:25 281:19 282:13 284:5 284:25 285:13 287:13 288:7 289:7 290:15 290:24 290:25 291:13 291:14 294:22 295:2
297:6 300:2 300:2 302:1 306:16 306:17 306:24 309:21 313:5 313:15 313:16 313:18 316:4 317:7 317:7 317:18 319:24 324:6 325:6 325:21 329:13
somebody(13) 17:15 83:14 83:14 102:14 139:10 218:16 253:24 262:15
285:13 287:2 309:15 309:16 315:22
show(14) 59:8 151:13 155:9 159:7 159:8 162:9 162:11 178:10 182;25 83:6 206:16 241:13 313:8 314:11
showed(3) 84:20 106:3 200:11 showing(4) 156:10 231:11 231:13 281:1 shown(3) 205:25 250;3 250:15 shows(1) 178:15 shredded(1) 68:14 shut(1) 222:5 shy(1) 267:10 siblings(1) 9:9 sic(7) 121:7 172:13 196:22 218:8 250:5 251:2 259:17
sleep(8) 44:11 138:1 147:3 173:15 174:19 182:15 240:6 249:12
sleeping(6) 146:20 146:21 146:22 147:15 182:15
sleeve(1) 179:10 slept(2) 147:5 173:18 sliding(1) 299:3 sliding-glass(1) 201:10 slight(1) 179:10 slip(8) 84:13 84:21 85:12 86:16 135:7 216:8 85:14 85
slips(1) 67:9 179:3 sloppily(3) 170:24 171:2 171:9
sloppy(2) 160:16 167:21 small(12) 8:1 11:3 11:6 11:7 63:3 67:14 179:20 179:20 180:4 180:8 198:11 325:15 small/petty(1) 16:2 smaller(3) 195:25 196:7 269:15 smart(2) 36:2 59:25 smarter(1) 267:25 smell(16) 169:16 220:5 220:6 220:6 220:10 222:4 222:23 224:8 225:5 225:8 225:19 226:6 228:9 228:10 230:12 234:1
s1de(9) 42:6 110:14 138:6 154:9 220:11 222:16 222:18 278:22
sign(4) 66:18 74:5 76:11 215:12 signature(1) 214:19 signed(S) 74:22 81:4 215:9 317:24 336:18
significant(i) 258:14 signing(2) 215:14 334:13 silenced(1) 231:20 silent(1) 301:4 silly(1) 175:16 silver(4) 236:23 239:12 272:17 272:24 similar(2) 53:12 223:22 simply(1) 322:4 simpson(1) 2:13
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285:24 296:17 330:4 330:7 52:21 53:1 53:4 54:3 54:21
smelled(6) 220:4 224:9 224:11 224:17 224:24 225:25
single(12) 91:22 95:6 111:5 118:25 121:22 121:22 123:22 139:25 186:24 281:12 319:14 322:4
snaps(2) 269;23 269:25 so-called(5) 41:22 65:19 307:14 307:24 316:8
something(218) 6:11 13:12 13:14 13:20 13:22 16:23 17:16 19:1 19:3 19:4 22:2
26:13 26:15 28:19 33:9 33:16 33:21 33:22 36:23 45:4 50:21 53:7 60:8 61:7 61:14 61:22 61:22 61:24 62:22 62:25 63:1 63:15 63:21 63:25 64:14 69:11 71:20 76:17 77:13 81:3 81:8 81:15 82:2 82:9 83:16 85:21 87:9 87:10 88:2 88:2 88:3 89:5 98:13 100:22 102:21 102:22 103:24 105:13 106:11 106:22 108:21 112:18 112:20 114:19 115:25 116:14 118:24 119:12 126:2 126:14 127:10 127:12 127:21 130:19 134:15 135:6 135:17 139:10 147:13 148:21
153:13 153:14 153:17 153:18 156:3 158:11 158:14 158:14 158:15 162:5 163:5 168:15 170:14 171:12 173:17 173:25 179:22 181:25 182:5 186:12 187:11 191:15 192:6 193:10 198:13 198:14 198:15 202:17 203:16 204:17 205:5 214:14 214:23 215:9 216:21
218:10 219:6 219:12 220:3 220:4 220:9 223:1 223:17 223:18 223:22 224:8 224:10 225:25 226:19 227:9 227:14 229:23 232;19 234:16 235:6 235:25 238:17 246:21 247:7 247:14 248:24 252:15 252:16 252:17 252:18 252:18 252:24 253:2 253:3 253:3 253:6 253:25 261:4 262:10 262:17 262:19 262:20 262:21 263:13 264:4 264:7 264:10 265:1 265:19 265:20 268:25 269:14
269:21 271:18 277:17 278:19 279:18 282:3 283:18 283:18 283:19 285:8 286:3 286:22 287:19 287:20 289:13 291:1 293:10 293:11 293:24 294:1 295:16 296:19 297:12 299:9 301:23
303:20 304:24 306:23 309:17 310;4 311:14 311:19 314:21 315:5 315:5 315:8 316:2 316:5 316:6 316:9 316:10 317:19 317:22 319:10 323:17 323:20 325:11 328:18 331:6 331:7 333:20
sir(7) 40:12 160:20 166:12 169:5 210:21 216:22 221:3
sister(9) 9:13 20:15 43:19 78:20 78:25 83:3 101:11 101:11 263:21
sisters(6) 9:10 9:11 9:21 101:4 101:8 101:17
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six(6) 16:16 38:22 57:15 66:8 73:19 237:8
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aetch(1) 21:7 skill(1) 335:13 skillet(1) 222:2
skype(1) 2:18 slab(3) 203:17 203:19 203:21 slacks(2) 192:3 192:4
social(1) 36:18 socializing(1) 36:18 sod(2) 202:12 214:5 sold(8) 10:16 25:25 28:3 28:5 28:7 28:11 65:12 85:3
sole(!) 309:25 solid(1) 219:4
somebody's(1) 59:11 somehow(2) 86:3 261:22 someone(40) 37:1 50:16 59:8 72:6
72:24 77:9 96:12 128:15 129:2 138:22 139:8 139:13 139:16 139:22 140:23
140:25-141:23 141:25 143:7 181:22 188:14 188:19 192:24 233:23 250:11 250:15 253:2 253:6 253:15 262:20
262:22 263:15 286:14 289:18 292:13 317:12 317:22 325:6 327:17 327:21
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ANTHONY DEPO 8-5-09.WPD
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wanted(58) 13:14 23:24 33:25 64:5 67:2 75:17 76:17 76:19 76:19 77:23 77:23 78:19 80:3 95:8 96:18 96:22 96:23 97:12 97:13 98:10 99:1 103:13 104:1 104:5 108:24 113:6 114:17 114:21 116:19 117:16 120:24 120:24 127:23 128:6 132:20 132:21 132:22 134:15 206:1 213:15 214:22 234:3 234:5 235:2 237:1 237:1 237:2 243:9 249:23 253:17 276:22 282:20 295:4 297:7 306:1 311:7 311:9 311:10
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videos(1) 276:2 view(2) 162:12 332:8 vlolent(1) 19:12
lolent-crimes(2) 18:20 18:23 Isible(2) 153:16 153:18
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twiddling(1) 320:13
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typleal(1) 150:5
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