18 doing refractive procedures? A. About half. 3 Q. How much of your time was spent on cataract 4 surgery? 5 A. About 45 percent. 6 Q. And so the other two, corneal and conjunctival, were about five percent? A. That's right. 9 Q. Within a refractive procedure, would you include 10 lasik with that? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. How much of your time of that was spent doing 13 lasik? 14 MS. NDIMAN: in other words -- 15 BY MR, KAFRISSEN: 16 Q. Why don't we do it this way. Tell me what 17 refractive procedures you were performing? 18 A. Lasik, radial keratotomy, astigmatic keratotomy, 19 that's it. 20 Q. Okay. And within those different types of 21 refractive procedures, how much of your time was spent 22 doing lasik procedures? A. What percentage of the refractive surgery -- Q. Of the refractive was lasik? " . 1 1 taking care of patients in the office, and also doing surgery. 3 Q. What percentage of your time was spent taking care of patients as opposed to operating? A. Two-thirds. o Q. When you say taking care of patients, two-thirds 7 is what, taking care of patients or operating? A. One-third in the operating room. 9 Q. Two-thirds taking care of patients. What type of 10 things were you doing? 11 A. Seeing patients for a variety of ocular 12 complaints, initial and follow-up visits. 13 Q. Okay. The operating room work, the one-third, 14 what type of surgeries were you doing? Were there 15 particular prnnerillree you were perfnrming? 16 A. I was performing refractive procedures. 17 Q. uha y . 18 A. Cataract surgery, others Do you want me to list every operation? LW Q, That you were doing, well, just give me an idea 2 1 of what you were doing in '97? 22 A. Corneal surgery, conjunctival surgery, refractive 23 surgery, cataract surgery. 24 Q. Refractive surgery, hcw much of your time was 191 1 A. . 85 percent. 2 MS. POST: What was that, I'm sorry, 3 I just couldn't hear you. 4 TEE WITNESS: Yes. 5 BY MR. KAFRISSEN: 6 O. The cataract surgery that you were performing, 7 were there different types of cataract procedures that 8 you were doing? 9 A. Not really, what do you mean? 10 Q. The clear lens extraction, how frequent were you 11 performing clear lens extraction? 12 MS. NEWMAN: Out of the percentage of 13 time that you she did cataract surgery? 11 MR. KAFRISSEN: Right. 15 TVP WITNESS: I don't recall 16 BY MR. KAFRISSEN: 17 Q. Do you consider the clear lens eztraction to be a 18 refractive procedure or cataract procedure? 19 A. Actually, refractive. Although, I now realize I 20 didn't break up the refractive to include that. May I 21 amend my percentages to reflect that? 22 Q. Sure. Anytime you feel that there is an answer 23 that you gave and you want to change, you want to amend 24 it, whatever -- you want, add to it, just say so? 20 i A. Of my 45 percent of surgery which is refractive, 2 I would say that was in 1997, five to ten percent 3 refractive lensectomy with lens implants. Of the 45 4 percent -- are we breaking that down as 45 percent or 5 as a 100 percent, how do you want to hear it? 6 MS. NKNMAN: I think we're getting 7 kind of convoluted. 9 BY an KAFRISSEN: 9 Q. Right, here is what I have. You were doing 10 refractive procedures about half of the time, about 50 11 percent -- 12 A. Right. 13 Q. -- and then you said that within that you fiave 14 lasik and the keratotomy procedures and then the clear 15 lens extraction or refractive lensectomy with lens 16 implantation? 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. And you said just on the refractive procedure 19 about 85 percent of your time was lasik? 20 A. 11h-huh. 21 41 Q. And then I had asked you what percentage of your 22 time was clear lens extraction? 23 A. Okay. So these numbers are to add up to 100, not 24 to 50? ROYAL COURT REPORTING SERVICE, INC.

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18doing refractive procedures?A. About half.

3 Q. How much of your time was spent on cataract4 surgery?5 A. About 45 percent.6 Q. And so the other two, corneal and conjunctival,

were about five percent?A. That's right.

9 Q. Within a refractive procedure, would you include10 lasik with that?11 A. Yes.12 Q. How much of your time of that was spent doing13 lasik?14 MS. NDIMAN: in other words --15 BY MR, KAFRISSEN:16 Q. Why don't we do it this way. Tell me what17 refractive procedures you were performing?18 A. Lasik, radial keratotomy, astigmatic keratotomy,19 that's it.20 Q. Okay. And within those different types of21 refractive procedures, how much of your time was spent22 doing lasik procedures?

A. What percentage of the refractive surgery --Q. Of the refractive was lasik?

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1 taking care of patients in the office, and also doingsurgery.

3 Q. What percentage of your time was spent takingcare of patients as opposed to operating?A. Two-thirds.

o Q. When you say taking care of patients, two-thirds7 is what, taking care of patients or operating?

A. One-third in the operating room.9 Q. Two-thirds taking care of patients. What type of

10 things were you doing?11 A. Seeing patients for a variety of ocular12 complaints, initial and follow-up visits.13 Q. Okay. The operating room work, the one-third,14 what type of surgeries were you doing? Were there15 particular prnnerillree you were perfnrming?16 A. I was performing refractive procedures.17 Q. uha y .18 A. Cataract surgery, others Do you want me to list

every operation?LW Q, That you were doing, well, just give me an idea2 1of what you were doing in '97?22 A. Corneal surgery, conjunctival surgery, refractive23 surgery, cataract surgery.24 Q. Refractive surgery, hcw much of your time was

1911 A. . 85 percent.2 MS. POST: What was that, I'm sorry,3 I just couldn't hear you.4 TEE WITNESS: Yes.5 BY MR. KAFRISSEN:6 O. The cataract surgery that you were performing,7 were there different types of cataract procedures that8 you were doing?9 A. Not really, what do you mean?

10 Q. The clear lens extraction, how frequent were you11 performing clear lens extraction?12 MS. NEWMAN: Out of the percentage of13 time that you she did cataract surgery?11 MR. KAFRISSEN: Right.15 TVP WITNESS: I don't recall

16 BY MR. KAFRISSEN:17 Q. Do you consider the clear lens eztraction to be a18 refractive procedure or cataract procedure?19 A. Actually, refractive. Although, I now realize I20 didn't break up the refractive to include that. May I21 amend my percentages to reflect that?22 Q. Sure. Anytime you feel that there is an answer23 that you gave and you want to change, you want to amend24 it, whatever -- you want, add to it, just say so?

20i A. Of my 45 percent of surgery which is refractive,2 I would say that was in 1997, five to ten percent3 refractive lensectomy with lens implants. Of the 454 percent -- are we breaking that down as 45 percent or5 as a 100 percent, how do you want to hear it?6 MS. NKNMAN: I think we're getting7 kind of convoluted.9 BY

an KAFRISSEN:

9 Q. Right, here is what I have. You were doing10 refractive procedures about half of the time, about 5011 percent --12 A. Right.13 Q. -- and then you said that within that you fiave14 lasik and the keratotomy procedures and then the clear15 lens extraction or refractive lensectomy with lens16 implantation?17 A. Yes.18 Q. And you said just on the refractive procedure19 about 85 percent of your time was lasik?20 A. 11h-huh.2141 Q. And then I had asked you what percentage of your22 time was clear lens extraction?23 A. Okay. So these numbers are to add up to 100, not24 to 50?

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