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© 2009 Middlesex Consulting Group. All Rights Reserved
Winning With Services & Support
Boston Product Managers Association November 19, 2009
Boston Product Managers Association November 19, 2009
Sam Klaidman, Principal Adviser
Middlesex Consulting Group
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Tonight’s agenda:
Are you missing revenue opportunities?
How service marketing is different from product marketing - and how are they similar
Issues associated with integrating product and service
Organizational
Business
Who's doing it - hardware and software businesses
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Ted LevittMarketing Intangible Products and Product Intangibles, Harvard Business Review, reprint 81306
Ted LevittMarketing Intangible Products and Product Intangibles, Harvard Business Review, reprint 81306
“Marketing is concerned with getting and keeping customers”
But PM’s can’t really succeed without active partnering with Services
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50K foot view ---> Underlying Assumption for Tonight
There are 2 reasons to integrate Products & Services:
1. Protect or enhance the value of the product business
2. Create a new growth business within the corporation
Tonight we will only discuss #1
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WIIFMWIIFM
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WIIFM (Lets discuss these questions)WIIFM (Lets discuss these questions)
What % of your business comes from new customers, repeat customers and customer referrals & recommendations?
Can you survive and grow without repeat and referral business?
What influences repeat business more - product, price or service and support?
Are you measured (and compensated) on total product line revenue (and/or profit) or only product?
How did you make out in the last 2 years?
Wish you had an annuity stream?
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Impact of Support on Loyalty
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What Makes Services Different?What Makes Services Different?
The buyer purchases an intangible It's difficult to compare the quality of similar
services“Goods are produced, services are performed” John M. Rathwell, Marketing in the Service Sector, (Cambridge, Ma.;
Winthrop Publishers, 1974)
The service may be based on the reputation of a single person
The buyer cannot return the serviceVery easy to create a new product
The buyer purchases an intangible It's difficult to compare the quality of similar
services“Goods are produced, services are performed” John M. Rathwell, Marketing in the Service Sector, (Cambridge, Ma.;
Winthrop Publishers, 1974)
The service may be based on the reputation of a single person
The buyer cannot return the serviceVery easy to create a new product
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Services Vs. Product Marketing Services Vs. Product Marketing (the p’s)(the p’s)Services Vs. Product Marketing Services Vs. Product Marketing (the p’s)(the p’s)
Products Services
Product Price Place Promotion People Physical Evidence Process
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5 Fatal Flaws of Service Marketing5 Fatal Flaws of Service Marketing
Philosophy: Marketing is marketing (it isn’t!)
Structure: The wrong folks in charge or no one in charge
Pricing: By the pound, not by value Product Development: Created in the
conference room, not in the field Portfolio Management: Mostly a bag of
commodities, little differentiation
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Basic Services Marketing Basic Services Marketing RolesRolesBasic Services Marketing Basic Services Marketing RolesRoles
Warranty Terms (although it mayWarranty Terms (although it maybe the Product Managers job)be the Product Managers job)T&M Rates and PoliciesT&M Rates and PoliciesContractsContracts
TypesTypesPricePriceUnique Selling PropositionUnique Selling Proposition
Cross-selling/upselling - who & when?Cross-selling/upselling - who & when?Key Account PoliciesKey Account PoliciesCollateral & Trade Show SupportCollateral & Trade Show SupportTraining Product Sales ForceTraining Product Sales Force
Warranty Terms (although it mayWarranty Terms (although it maybe the Product Managers job)be the Product Managers job)T&M Rates and PoliciesT&M Rates and PoliciesContractsContracts
TypesTypesPricePriceUnique Selling PropositionUnique Selling Proposition
Cross-selling/upselling - who & when?Cross-selling/upselling - who & when?Key Account PoliciesKey Account PoliciesCollateral & Trade Show SupportCollateral & Trade Show SupportTraining Product Sales ForceTraining Product Sales Force
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Key Services Marketing MetricsKey Services Marketing MetricsKey Services Marketing MetricsKey Services Marketing Metrics
Revenues - Can grow as must as 30% per yearRevenues - Can grow as must as 30% per year Profits - Services GM frequently 50% better Profits - Services GM frequently 50% better
than productsthan products Attachment rate - % product orders with Attachment rate - % product orders with
services sold at time of saleservices sold at time of sale Penetration rate - % installed base (excluding Penetration rate - % installed base (excluding
warranty) under contractwarranty) under contract Renewal rate - % expiring contracts renewedRenewal rate - % expiring contracts renewed Customer satisfaction by service product - Customer satisfaction by service product -
from loyalty surveysfrom loyalty surveys
Revenues - Can grow as must as 30% per yearRevenues - Can grow as must as 30% per year Profits - Services GM frequently 50% better Profits - Services GM frequently 50% better
than productsthan products Attachment rate - % product orders with Attachment rate - % product orders with
services sold at time of saleservices sold at time of sale Penetration rate - % installed base (excluding Penetration rate - % installed base (excluding
warranty) under contractwarranty) under contract Renewal rate - % expiring contracts renewedRenewal rate - % expiring contracts renewed Customer satisfaction by service product - Customer satisfaction by service product -
from loyalty surveysfrom loyalty surveys
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Combined Product & Service Combined Product & Service MetricsMetricsCombined Product & Service Combined Product & Service MetricsMetrics
% product orders from % product orders from existing customers existing customers (repeat orders)(repeat orders)
% product orders from % product orders from existing customers existing customers (repeat orders)(repeat orders)
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% new orders resulting from referrals from existing customers% of reference customers% revenue and profits from services
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Organizational Issues Associated with Integrating Products and Services Marketing
Organizational Issues Associated with Integrating Products and Services Marketing
Ever try to initiate a high impact change?
Were you successful or disappointed? Why?
Is this a good time to stick your hand up and try something new?
Lets talk about doing it anyway
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Actions to Drive Service Revenue - A Team Effort
Actions to Drive Service Revenue - A Team Effort
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Focusing on Services May be a Big Change -3 Cases
Focusing on Services May be a Big Change -3 Cases
Company Stage Challenge Benefit
1. Start-up Bigger fish to fry
Avoid problems down the road
2. Growing with integrated sales force
Hard trying to separate product lines
Works best if don’t use factory based selling
3. Well established -independent divisions
Bigger than 1 PM can implement
Really great opportunity but not for tonight
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It Takes Change ManagementIt Takes Change Management
Pre-sign up key players in effected departmentsPre-sign up key players in effected departments
Sales Finance ServiceMarcoms HR Marketin
gCollect baseline financial and operational performance data
Create Sales training collateral for either Product or Services Sales people
Survey/interview early customers
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Business Issues to Plan to AddressBusiness Issues to Plan to AddressBusiness Issues to Plan to AddressBusiness Issues to Plan to Address
Service organization maturity
Ready to serve
Customer satisfaction & loyalty
Transition from free to fee
Pricing & discounting
Obstacles to selling services
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Ready to Serve?Ready to Serve?
Does the Service organization have the capacity? People, time, leadership
Will their budget be OK? Can they train the people as needed? Will they be ready with information Does everyone believe?
Does the Service organization have the capacity? People, time, leadership
Will their budget be OK? Can they train the people as needed? Will they be ready with information Does everyone believe?
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Customer Satisfaction & LoyaltyCustomer Satisfaction & LoyaltyCustomer Satisfaction & LoyaltyCustomer Satisfaction & Loyalty Does the organization survey Does the organization survey
customers for sat. & loyalty feedback?customers for sat. & loyalty feedback? How do they use they results?How do they use they results? What % of customers would definitely What % of customers would definitely
recommend the service organization? recommend the service organization? NPS? Good enough?NPS? Good enough?
Does the organization survey Does the organization survey customers for sat. & loyalty feedback?customers for sat. & loyalty feedback?
How do they use they results?How do they use they results? What % of customers would definitely What % of customers would definitely
recommend the service organization? recommend the service organization? NPS? Good enough?NPS? Good enough?
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Other ChallengesOther Challenges
Transition From Free to Fee - Transition From Free to Fee - Will Will you now charge for something that you now charge for something that was free?was free?
Pricing & Discounting - Pricing & Discounting - Prices must be based on customer’s received (and perceived) value
Obstacles to Selling Services - Obstacles to Selling Services - Sales & Service people feel you are Sales & Service people feel you are ripping off the customerripping off the customer
Transition From Free to Fee - Transition From Free to Fee - Will Will you now charge for something that you now charge for something that was free?was free?
Pricing & Discounting - Pricing & Discounting - Prices must be based on customer’s received (and perceived) value
Obstacles to Selling Services - Obstacles to Selling Services - Sales & Service people feel you are Sales & Service people feel you are ripping off the customerripping off the customer
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Examples of Successful Integration
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Survey SaysSurvey Says
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Who's Doing It?Who's Doing It?Who's Doing It?Who's Doing It?
Some software company examples - 2008
Name Total Revenue Service % Revenue
Service Margin
PTC $941,279,000 68.5% 57.4%
Pegasystems $161,949,000 68.5% 41.2%
Oracle $22,430,000,000 66.5% 66.6%
SAP $14,957,000,000 64.0% 68.2%
Progress Software
$493,500,000 62.1% 77.6%
Adobe $3,157,881,000 4.4% 39.4%
Median (100 public companies)
$93,108,000 54.4% 56.7%
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Who's Doing It? - Xerox Sept. 2009Who's Doing It? - Xerox Sept. 2009Who's Doing It? - Xerox Sept. 2009Who's Doing It? - Xerox Sept. 2009
This is a big deal - ask your CFO
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Who's Doing It? - Dell Sept. 2009Who's Doing It? - Dell Sept. 2009Who's Doing It? - Dell Sept. 2009Who's Doing It? - Dell Sept. 2009Dell’s pre-Perot total revenue = $61B
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Who's Doing It? - HP - FY 2008Who's Doing It? - HP - FY 2008Who's Doing It? - HP - FY 2008Who's Doing It? - HP - FY 2008
Total HP revenue $118.4B
HP Service revenue $22.39B (18.9%)
HP Service excludes services associated with:
PC’s
Printers and document
Servers
IT Solutions
Financial Services
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Professional ServicesProfessional ServicesProfessional ServicesProfessional Services
FinancingFinancing New lab designNew lab design Product Inspection ServicesProduct Inspection Services Validation & Compliance ServicesValidation & Compliance Services Implementation & Project ManagementImplementation & Project Management Software ServicesSoftware Services LIMS MigrationLIMS Migration Data Management SolutionsData Management Solutions Laboratory Productivity ServicesLaboratory Productivity Services
Benchmarking MetricsBenchmarking MetricsLab Management WorkshopsLab Management Workshops
Educational ServicesEducational Services Asset Management ServicesAsset Management Services Multi-vendor ServicesMulti-vendor Services
FinancingFinancing New lab designNew lab design Product Inspection ServicesProduct Inspection Services Validation & Compliance ServicesValidation & Compliance Services Implementation & Project ManagementImplementation & Project Management Software ServicesSoftware Services LIMS MigrationLIMS Migration Data Management SolutionsData Management Solutions Laboratory Productivity ServicesLaboratory Productivity Services
Benchmarking MetricsBenchmarking MetricsLab Management WorkshopsLab Management Workshops
Educational ServicesEducational Services Asset Management ServicesAsset Management Services Multi-vendor ServicesMulti-vendor Services
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ResourcesResourcesResourcesResources
Expertise Name URLSoftware Service Benchmarks
Association of Support Professionals
Asponline.com
General Service & Support Info
Service & Support Professionals Association
Thesspa.org
Service Sales & Marketing Training
Hahn Consulting Hahnconsulting.com
Service Marketing Planning & Implementation
Middlesex Consulting Group
Middlesexconsulting.com
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Thank You and Go For It!Thank You and Go For It!
For more info contact:Sam [email protected]
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