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TRACE - Challenges and solutions (TDS)

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Trace – Challenges and solutions

dk bholusaria

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Objective of this presentation

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We will discuss…

• Recent changes and services available on trace

• Common default errors and solutions

• Queries of house

• Summary

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Recent changes and services

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Recent changes and services

• TDS not required to be deducted on service tax portion

• Facility of online correction of challans without digital signature

• Facility to verify section 197 certificate

• Transaction report for Non-residents without PAN

• Online request for resolution and its tracking

• Declaration for Non – Filing of e-tds return

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Common default errors and solutions

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1: Old demands

Problem # 1:

• Recently received a demand notice for FY 2008-2009

• Justification report downloaded is based on original e-TDS return

• Correction returns filed are either not considered or partially considered

• Interestingly consol file is latest one after considering all corrections

How to delete this demand or get latest type of justification report?

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2: Interest adjustment issues

Problem # 2: Demand of interest for X amount

Case 1: I had suo-moto deposited interest before filing return and even considered challan in my TDS return

Case 2: I immediately deposited interest but demand still not deleted OR Now, do I need to intimate AO or file correction return to get demand adjusted?

Case 3: I want to deposit interest but have no clue regarding section head

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Solution to problem # 2

Challan details:

Field Original return

Correction Return

Remarks

Serial No. XX XX

Section XXX XXX Put any – no relevance

Income Tax

Fee u/s 234E

Surcharge

Education Cess

Interest 9,000 9,000

Penalty

Other Amount Paid

TDS Interest Amount

9,000 Amount entered here can not exceed amount of Interest entered above

TDS Other Amount

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3: Demand u/s 221

Problem # 3:

• Demand of interest for X amount was raised by TRACE on 01-04-2014

• Interest was deposited on 05-05-2014

• Correction return filed on 25-05-2014 and processed on 05-06-2014

• Fresh demand of section 221 raised

Should I deposit this demand?

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4: Section head issues

Problem # 4:

• Audit for FY 2013-2014

• Auditor pointed out non-deduction for various sections for all months of year

• Auditee deducted TDS on 10/Jun/2014 and deposited entire tax for all heads in a single challan u/s 194C

How do I use this challan in various quarters and returns?

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4: Understand spread of challan…

Demands for various quarters and heads:

Quarter Head Amount

Q1 194C 9000

194I 1000

Q2 19H 9000

194I 1000

Q3 195 9000

194I 1000

Q4 92B 8000

195 1000

194I 1000

Total 40000

CIN: 0004329 14062014 00003

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4: Q1 and Q2 returns (presentation)

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN 1 194J 40,000 200 0004329 14062014 00003

Sl# Name PAN Section Amount of Payment

Amount Paid Date

Tax Rate Income Tax TDS Date Challan Sl #

1 ABC AEKPA1234L 194C 9,00,000 01/04/2013 1 9,000 10/06/2014 1 2 AB (HUF) AEFHA9876Q 194I 10,000 01/05/2013 10 1,000 10/06/2014 1

Challan details in Q1-26Q

Deductee details in Q1-26Q

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN 1 194A 40,000 200 0004329 14062014 00003

Sl# Name PAN Section Amount of Payment

Amount Paid Date

Tax Rate Income Tax TDS Date Challan Sl #

1 XYX P. Ltd AAACX1456F 194H 90,000 01/07/2013 10 9,000 10/06/2014 1 2 AB (HUF) AEFHA9876Q 194I 10,000 01/08/2013 10 1,000 10/06/2014 1

Challan details in Q2-26Q

Deductee details in Q2-26Q

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4: Q3 returns (presentation)

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN 1 194J 40,000 200 0004329 14062014 00003

Sl# Name PAN Section Amount of Payment

Amount Paid Date

Tax Rate Income Tax TDS Date Challan Sl #

1 AB (HUF) AEFHA9876Q 194I 10,000 01/11/2013 10 1,000 10/06/2014 1

Challan details in Q3-26Q

Deductee details

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN 1 195 40,000 200 0004329 14062014 00003

Sl# Name PAN Section Amount of Payment

Amount Paid Date

Tax Rate Income Tax TDS Date Challan Sl #

1 XYX AABCX4156Q 195 60,000 01/12/2013 15 9,000 10/06/2014 1

Challan details in Q3-27Q

Deductee details

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4: Q4 returns (presentation)

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN 1 194BB 40,000 200 0004329 14062014 00003

Sl# Name PAN Section Amount of Payment

Amount Paid Date

Tax Rate Income Tax TDS Date Challan Sl #

1 AB (HUF) AEFHA9876Q 194I 10,000 01/01/2014 10 1,000 10/06/2014 1

Challan details in Q4-26Q

Deductee details

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN 1 195 40,000 200 0004329 14062014 00003

Sl# Name PAN Section Amount of Payment

Amount Paid Date

Tax Rate Income Tax TDS Date Challan Sl #

1 XYX AABCX4156Q 195 60,000 06/03/2014 15 1,000 10/06/2014 1

Challan details in Q4-27Q

Deductee details

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN 1 92B 40,000 200 0004329 14062014 00003

Sl# Name PAN Section Amount of Payment

Amount Paid Date

Income Tax TDS Date Challan Sl #

1 Satish CPAPG9999Q 192 1,60,000 31/03/2014 8000 10/06/2014 1

Challan details in Q4-24Q

Deductee details in annexure I

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5: Challan inter field issues

Problem # 5

• Actual liability: Tax – 50000, Interest – 2000

• In Challan: Tax – 51000, Interest – 1000

How do I use 2000 as Interest in return?

Should I deposit 1000 again?

Do I need to get challan corrected?

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5: Correct challan presentation

Challan details:

Field In Actual Challan

To be reported in return

Remarks

Serial No. XX

Section XXX XXX Put any – no relevance

Income Tax 51,000 50,000

Amount entered in actual challan has no relevance.

Amount entered in respective challan field of TDS return will only be considered and processed as if it

is the value to be assigned to a particular field.

Fee u/s 234E

Surcharge

Education Cess

Interest 1,000 2,000

Penalty

Other Amount Paid Total 52,000 52,000 Total of actual challan and in return should

always match, else mismatch may occur

TDS Interest Amount

2,000 Amount entered here can not exceed amount of Interest entered above

TDS Other Amount

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6: PAN corrected. Demand not deleted

Problem # 6

• Deductee’ correct PAN: AXKPB3856J

• PAN mentioned in original return: AYPPB3365I. Demand raised since PAN was invalid.

• Correction statement filed.

• I am able to generate form 16A on correct PAN but demand still not deleted.

Is it a system error? How to overcome this problem?

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6: Understanding system logic

Character no: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Total

PAN before correction A Y P P B 3 3 6 5 I

PAN after correction A X K P B 3 8 5 6 J

Change? N Y Y N N N Y Y Y Y

Change score for Alphabets 1 1 1 3

Change score for Numerics 1 1 1 3

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7: Date of credit v/s date of deduction in salary

Problem # 7

• Date of credit of salary to director: 31/03/2013 (FY 2012-2013). No TDS was deducted at the time of credit u/s 192.

• Date of actual payment of salary as well as TDS: 10/05/2014

What assessment year to be mentioned on challan?

In which return this deduction should be disclosed and how?

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7: Solution to problem # 7

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN XX 92B XXXXX 200 0004329 10052014 00003

Sl# Name PAN Section Amount of

Payment

Amount Paid Date Income Tax

TDS Date Challan Sl #

1 Director CPAPG9999Q 192 XXXXX 10/05/2014 XXXX 10/05/2014 XX

Challan details in Q4-24Q

Deductee details in annexure I

AY should be year of credit i.e. AY 2013-14 (FY 2012-13)

Transaction has to be reported in return of Q4 for FY 2012-13 (AY 2013-14)

What about levy u/s 234E?

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8: Section 197 demand

Problem # 8

• Certificate u/s 197 issued for 5 lac value @ 1% u/s 194J

• Total amount paid 5,60,000 @ 1%.

• Demand for Rs. 5400/- raised - deposited with interest.

How to prepare correction return to close this demand?

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8: Original position in return

Original return would have looked like this:

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN 9 194J 5600 200 0004329 30042014 09211

Challan details

Deductee details

Sl#

Name PAN Section Amount of Payment

Amount Paid Date

Tax Rate

Income Tax

Deducted

TDS Date Challan Sl #

Remarks for deduction

u/s 197 Cert. no.

1 ABC AEFHA 9876Q

194J 5,60,000 31/03/2014

1 5,600 31/03/2014 9 A- Lower deduction /

No Deduction u/s 197

AAAA1121XXX

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8: Post correction position in return

Post correction return should look like this:

Sl# Section Income Tax + SC + EC Minor Code CIN 9 194J 5600 200 0004329 30042014 09211

… …. …… …… …….

… …. …… ……. …….

12 194J 5400 200 0004329 14062014 09211

Challan details

Deductee details Sl# Name PAN Section Amount of

Payment Amount Paid

Date Tax Rate

Income Tax

Deducted

TDS Date Challan Sl #

Remarks for deduction

u/s 197 Cert. no.

X ABC AEFHA 9876Q

194J 5,00,000 31/03/2014 1 5,000 31/03/2014 9 A- Lower deduction / No Deduction u/s

197

AAAA1121XXX

… …. …… …… …….. …….. …… …….. ……….. …. XX ABC AEFHA

9876Q 194J 6,000 31/03/2014 10 600 31/03/2014 9

XXX ABC AEFHA 9876Q

194J 54,000 31/03/2014 10 5400 14/06/2014 12

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9: Can I use challan next year?

Problem # 9

• AY 2013-2014 – Tax deposited u/s 192 – 10 Lacs. Used in 24Q: 6 Lacs

• Tax for other returns already deposited, thus excess tax paid this year: 4 lacs u/s 192

Should I file refund to get back excess tax deposited?

Can I use it in next FY?

Can I use it against non-salary TDS liability in next year?

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Then what is the solution? Refund?

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Now I can take queries from house!

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Thank you!!

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