Hiring Salespeople and the Economics of Failure

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Hiring Salespeople and the Economics of Failure

An AMG Executive Briefing

The Economicsof Failure

Sizing up the overall problem

The Economicsof Failure

Sizing up the overall problem

Identifying existing and potential problems

The Economicsof Failure

Sizing up the overall problem

Identifying existing and potential problems

Reversing bad hiring processes and implementing good ones

The Economicsof Failure

One-to-many: A “purposeful primer”

The Economicsof Failure

One-to-many: A “purposeful primer”

Many-to-many: Stay posted online, join in the conversation

The Economicsof Failure

One-to-many: A “purposeful primer”

Many-to-many: Stay posted online

One-to-one: Follow-up, follow-through and making sense of it all…

Many-to-many: Stay posted online, join in the conversation

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Systematically winging it

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Failing to benchmark

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Not hiring to profile

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Wrong time, wrong place

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Recruiting bad apples

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Getting to grips with costs

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

The cost of acquisition

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

The cost of turnover

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Cost of mediocre performance

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Hidden costs

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

What’s acceptable to you?

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Method one:Number crunching

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

Method two: Utility analysis

Bad Recruiting Practices: Sizing up the problem

METHOD ONE: Number Crunching

Did you find and download the spreadsheet:

Calculating The Cost of Bad Hires?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

The numberof salespeople

hired in the last12-months?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

The numberof salespeople

hired in the last12-months?

18

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

The number of salespeople fired

or who quit in the last 12-months?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

The number of salespeople fired

or who quit in the last 12-months?

06

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

The numberof candidates

interviewed for each position?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

The numberof candidates

interviewed for each position?

03

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

Approximate number of hours

interviewing each candidate?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

02

Approximate number of hours

interviewing each candidate?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

The numberof times each

candidate was interviewed?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

03

The numberof times each

candidate was interviewed?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

How many hours invested coaching

each person?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

40

How many hours invested coaching

each person?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

Any fee paid for each position?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

$12,500.00

Any fee paid for each position?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

Cost of advertisingeach position?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

$0.00

Cost of advertisingeach position?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

The value of an hour of your time?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

$85.00

The value of an hour of your time?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

Fees paid for training each salesperson?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

$2,700.00

Fees paid for training each salesperson?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

Average yearly base salary paid to each salesperson?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

$85,700.00

Average yearly base salary paid to each salesperson?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

Average number of months worked before being fired

or quit?

RECRUITMENT and DEVELOPMENT

COSTS

09

Average number of months worked before being fired

or quit?

PERFORMANCEof KEEPERS

Average annual revenue per sale or customer?

PERFORMANCEof KEEPERS

Average annual revenue per sale or customer?

$26,700.00

PERFORMANCEof KEEPERS

Number of sales or customers per month?

PERFORMANCEof KEEPERS

Number of sales or customers per month?

04

PERFORMANCEof KEEPERS

What is the gross margin on sales?

PERFORMANCEof KEEPERS

What is the gross margin on sales?

30%

PERFORMANCEof LOSERS

Average annual revenue per sale

or customer?

PERFORMANCEof LOSERS

Average annual revenue per sale

or customer?

$26,700.00

PERFORMANCEof LOSERS

Number of sales or customers per

month?

PERFORMANCEof LOSERS

Number of sales or customers per

month?

01

PERFORMANCEof LOSERS

What is the gross margin on sales?

PERFORMANCEof LOSERS

What is the gross margin on sales?

21%

What if you decreased your sales staff turnover by 30%?

$385,452

Decreased costs…

Flipside…

…Upside

Before After

Turnover % 33% 23%

Flipside…

…Upside

Before After

Turnover % 33% 23%

Cost of recruiting $1,175,040 $822,528

Flipside…

…Upside

Before After

Turnover % 33% 23%

Cost of recruiting $1,175,040 $822,528

Development costs $109,800 $76,860

Flipside…

…Upside

Before After

Turnover % 33% 23%

Cost of recruiting $1,175,040 $822,528

Development costs $109,800 $76,860

The cost of bad hires $1,284,840 $899,388

#DIV/0!

What’s your number?

NO CRYSTAL BALLS

Without accurate data your analysis will produce fuzzy

readings at best.

Where are you getting your

data from?

Can you trust it?

METHOD TWO: Utility Analysis

Using statistics to calculate standard

deviations of performance

A Step-by-Step Approach

1: Rank order, from top tobottom

1: Rank order, from top tobottom

2: Tier production levels

1: Rank order, from top tobottom

2: Tier production levels

3: Assign salespeople totheir appropriate level

1: Rank order, from top tobottom

2: Tier production levels

3: Assign salespeople totheir appropriate level

4: Establish averages foreach production level

1: Rank order, from top tobottom

2: Tier production levels

3: Assign salespeople totheir appropriate level

4: Establish averages foreach production level

5: Analyze and work thenumbers

Rank from top to bottom

Mary $1,000,000

Matt $900,000

Mark $800,000

Luke $700,000

John $600,000

Sarah $500,000

Ester $400,000

David $300,000

Sam $200,000

Martha $100,000

A typical sales team?

Tier production levels

Add production from allsalespeople and divide by three.

This yields three break-points thatallow us to divide our salespeople

into meaningful productionlevels, or “tiers.”

Total sales $5,500,000

Mary $1,000,000

Matt $900,000

Mark $800,000

Luke $700,000

John $600,000

Sarah $500,000

Ester $400,000

David $300,000

Sam $200,000

Martha $100,000

Add production from allsalespeople and divide by three.

This yields three break-points thatallow us to divide our salespeople

into meaningful productionlevels, or “tiers.”

Total sales of $5,500,000 dividedby 3 equals approximately

$1,800,000 per sales tier.

Assign salespeople to their appropriate level

Mary $1,000,000

Matt $900,000

Top-tier $1,900,000

Mary $1,000,000

Matt $900,000

Top-tier $1,900,00

Mark $800,000

Luke $700,000

John $600,000

Mid-tier $2,100,000

Mary $1,000,000

Matt $900,000

Top-tier $1,900,000

Mark $800,000

Luke $700,000

John $600,000

Mid-tier $2,100,000

Sarah $500,000

Ester $400,000

David $300,000

Sam $200,000

Martha $100,000

Bottom-tier $1,500,000

Establish averages for each production level

Divide production [within each tier] by the number of people in that level.

This yields the average production per salesperson by tier.

Divide production [within each tier] by the number of people in that level.

This yields the average production per salesperson by tier.

Mary + Matt = $1,900,000 / 2= $950,000 averagetop-tier production

Divide production [within each tier] by the number of people in that level.

This yields the average production per salesperson by tier.

Mark + Luke + John = $2,100,000 / 3= $700,000 averagemid-tier production

Divide production [within each tier] by the number of people in that level.

This yields the average production per salesperson by tier.

Sarah + Ester + David + Sam + Martha = $1,500,000 / 5 =

$300,000 averagebottom-tier production

Analyze and workthe numbers

Calculate the average production difference between a mid-tier salesperson and a bottom-tier

salesperson.

Calculate the average production difference between a mid-tier salesperson and a bottom-tier

salesperson.

Using a mid-tier sales “target” provides a conservative estimate of lost

production.

Calculate the average production difference between a mid-tier salesperson and a bottom-tier

salesperson.

Using a mid-tier sales “target” provides a conservative estimate of lost

production.

$700,000 average mid-tier –$300,000 average bottom-tier

= $400,000 average production lost per bottom-tier salesperson.

Multiply this figure by the number of salespeople in the bottom tier.

This represents the total sales lost each year by the bottom-tier salespeople.

Multiply this figure by the number of salespeople in the bottom tier.

This represents the total sales lost each year by the bottom-tier salespeople.

$400,000 x 5 =

$2,000,000/year

Most people don’t realize recruiting costs

are more than thecost of acquisition or

cost of turnover; they are also deeply hidden in the cost of variable

productivity.

From the largest organization to the

smallest, bad hiring practices tend to

secretly cripple organizations.

Most people don’t realize recruiting costs

are more than thecost of acquisition or

cost of turnover; they are also deeply hidden in the cost of variable

productivity.

From the largest organization to the

smallest, bad hiring practices tend to

secretly cripple organizations.

More Number Crunching

Does anyone know what the

actual cost of making a bad hire

really is, huh?

Who is measuring what, exactly?

More Number Crunching

Does anyone know what the

actual cost of making a bad hire

really is, huh?

Who is measuring what, exactly?

Calculating hidden costs

Administrative costs:Discipline and termination

Separation processing

Vacancy costs:Open territories

Unsold inventory

Administrative costs:Discipline and termination

Separation processing

Vacancy costs:Open territories

Unsold inventory

Administrative costs:Discipline and termination

Separation processing

Replacement costs:Recruiting and related

Management time

Vacancy costs:Open territories

Unsold inventory

Administrative costs:Discipline and termination

Separation processing

Management time:Hand-holdingLess time for

sales management

Replacement costs:Recruiting and related

Management time

Vacancy costs:Open territories

Unsold inventory

Administrative costs:Discipline and termination

Separation processing

Management time:Hand-holdingLess time for

sales management

Team Morale:Lower achievements

ResentmentAnxiety

Replacement costs:Recruiting and related

Management time

Vacancy costs:Open territories

Unsold inventory

Administrative costs:Discipline and termination

Separation processing

Training costs:Onboarding

Time to ramp-up

Management time:Hand-holdingLess time for

sales management

Team Morale:Lower achievements

ResentmentAnxiety

Replacement costs:Recruiting and related

Management time

Lost opportunity:Missed dealsLost business Vacancy costs:

Open territoriesUnsold inventory

Administrative costs:Discipline and termination

Separation processing

Management time:Hand-holdingLess time for

sales management

Training costs:Onboarding

Time to ramp-up

Team Morale:Lower achievements

ResentmentAnxiety

Replacement costs:Recruiting and related

Management time

Lost opportunity:Missed dealsLost business Vacancy costs:

Open territoriesUnsold inventory

Administrative costs:Discipline and termination

Separation processing

Training costs:Onboarding

Time to ramp-up

Customer costs:Complaints and poor service

Lost referral businessBrand erosion

Management time:Hand-holdingLess time for

sales management

Team Morale:Lower achievements

ResentmentAnxiety

Replacement costs:Recruiting and related

Management time

Lost opportunity:Missed dealsLost business Vacancy costs:

Open territoriesUnsold inventory

Administrative costs:Discipline and termination

Separation processing

Training costs:Onboarding

Time to ramp-up

Competitive advantage:Lower ROI per salesperson

Lower margin on salesProprietary stuff

Management time:Hand-holdingLess time for

sales management

Team Morale:Lower achievements

ResentmentAnxiety

Customer costs:Complaints and poor service

Lost referral businessBrand erosion

Replacement costs:Recruiting and related

Management time

Identifying existing and potential problems

Top-down and bottom-up

Identifying existing and potential problems

Questions of perspective

Identifying existing and potential problems

Organizational dynamics

Identifying existing and potential problems

Managing crunches, crisesand complexities

Identifying existing and potential problems

Talent management

Identifying existing and potential problems

Process improvement

Identifying existing and potential problems

Benchmarking, audits and assessments

Identifying existing and potential problems

Sizing up the organization

1: Understanding thedynamics of change

1: Understanding thedynamics of change

2: Flat world attitudes

1: Understanding thedynamics of change

2: Flat world attitudes

3: Establishing a newmodel

1: Understanding thedynamics of change

2: Flat world attitudes

3: Establishing a newmodel

4: Aligning the salesorganization with goals

1: Understanding thedynamics of change

2: Flat world attitudes

3: Establishing a newmodel

4: Aligning the salesorganization with goals

5: Separating the hereticsfrom the faithful

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

What is “talent?”

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Look at the recruiting process:

Look at the recruiting process:

What works?

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Look at the recruiting process:

What works?

What doesn’t work?

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Look at the recruiting process:

What works?

What doesn’t work?

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Workforce planning

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Profiling

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Employment branding

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Sourcing strategies

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Screening and assessment

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Selection

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Onboarding

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Engagement

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Performance management

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Training and development

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Retention

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Developing a working model and systematic

approach…

Succession planning

ARE YOU ATALENT-CENTRIC ORGANIZATION?

Assessing who’s who and who’s up for change

WALKING THE WALK

TALK

ING

TH

E TA

LK

WALKING THE WALK

TALK

ING

TH

E TA

LK

The Unfaithful

WALKING THE WALK

TALK

ING

TH

E TA

LK

The Unfaithful

Heretics

WALKING THE WALK

TALK

ING

TH

E TA

LK

The Unfaithful

Heretics

Good Soldiers

WALKING THE WALK

TALK

ING

TH

E TA

LK

The Unfaithful

Heretics

Good Soldiers

Champions

WHO ISYOUR BEST

RECRUITER?

Fill in the blank…

WHO ISYOUR BEST

RECRUITER?

Fill in the blank…

Unfaithful?

WHO ISYOUR BEST

RECRUITER?

Fill in the blank…

A heretic?

WHO ISYOUR BEST

RECRUITER?

Fill in the blank…

Good soldier?

WHO ISYOUR BEST

RECRUITER?

Fill in the blank…

A champion?

A sales manager’s role

[Why recruiting is a stretch]

Grunt work

Bad economics

Core competencies

Unbundle it

Strategic versus tactical

Are your sales managersup to the job?

1. A systematic,integrated androutine approach?

1. A systematic,integrated androutine approach?

2. Growing the salesteam, raisingthe bar?

1. A systematic,integrated androutine approach?

2. Growing the salesteam, raisingthe bar?

3. Part of the talentmanagementcontinuum?

Standard deviations…

…digging deeper

…digging deeper

Uncovering underlying problems…

…digging deeper

Uncovering underlying problems…

Why do underperformers underperform?

…digging deeper

Uncovering underlying problems…

Why do underperformers underperform?

Is it a motivation problem?

…digging deeper

Uncovering underlying problems…

Why do underperformers underperform?

Is it a motivation problem?

Are core behaviors, attitudes and techniques out of synch?

…digging deeper

Uncovering underlying problems…

Why do underperformers underperform?

Is it a motivation problem?

Are core behaviors, attitudes and techniques out of synch?

Are the problems situational?

Rooting out problems

Investigate

Investigate

Competencies

Investigate

Competencies

Measurable, observable

Investigate

Competencies

Measurable, observable

Relate to job performance

Measuring applicants

Measuring applicants

Tests and simulations

Measuring applicants

Tests and simulations

Behavioral interviewing

Measuring applicants

Tests and simulations

Behavioral interviewing

Targeted Selection

Reversing bad hiring processes and implementing good ones

Chunking the problem

Reversing bad hiring processes and implementing good ones

Jumping the tracks

Reversing bad hiring processes and implementing good ones

Start with the end in mind

Reversing bad hiring processes and implementing good ones

What next?

Reversing bad hiring processes and implementing good ones

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING MISTAKES

If time is money, the typical interview is a waste of both…

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING MISTAKES

If time is money, the typical interview is a waste of both…

Poor predictor of performance

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING MISTAKES

If time is money, the typical interview is a waste of both…

Who is selling who what?

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING MISTAKES

If time is money, the typical interview is a waste of both…

What gets measured and how?

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING

MISTAKES

Using top producers as a model misses

the mark…

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING

MISTAKES

Using top producers as a model misses

the mark…

Measuring the difference

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING

MISTAKES

Using top producers as a model misses

the mark…

True or False:All salespeople

have big heads?

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING MISTAKES

Measuring the wrong stuff…

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING MISTAKES

Measuring the wrong stuff…

Personality

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING MISTAKES

Measuring the wrong stuff…

Aptitude

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING MISTAKES

Measuring the wrong stuff…

Experience

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING MISTAKES

Measuring the wrong stuff…

Validated skills-based and job related testing

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING

MISTAKES

Getting usedto it…

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING

MISTAKES

Getting usedto it…

Analyzing poor performance

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING

MISTAKES

Getting usedto it…

Retention problems

CALCULATING THE COST OF HIRING

MISTAKES

Getting usedto it…

Understanding why people leave

Baselines and benchmarks

Profiling

Job profiling

Profiling

Job profiling

Candidate profiling

Profiling

Job profiling

Candidate profiling

Performance profiling

Profiling

Job profiling

Candidate profiling

Performance profiling

Fit

Assessments

Talent management audits

Assessments

Talent management audits

Sales management evaluation

Assessments

Talent management audits

Sales management evaluation

Statistically validated screening

Assessments

Talent management audits

Sales management evaluation

Statistically validated screening

Sales- and job-specific assessments

Performance Management

Accelerate ramp-up

Performance Management

Accelerate ramp-up

Minimize deviations

Performance Management

Accelerate ramp-up

Minimize deviations

Effective management

Performance Management

Accelerate ramp-up

Minimize deviations

Effective management

Growing the organization

What next?

1: Get real about the costsand consequences

1: Get real about the costsand consequences

2: Step back and evaluateyour options

1: Get real about the costsand consequences

2: Step back and evaluateyour options

3: Take a leadership roleand get involved

1: Get real about the costsand consequences

2: Step back and evaluateyour options

3: Take a leadership roleand get involved

4: Systematically applybest practices

1: Get real about the costsand consequences

2: Step back and evaluateyour options

3: Take a leadership roleand get involved

4: Systematically applybest practices

5: Repeat

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