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ISSUE No: 3

April 2003

In Memoriam Brian Kent London OAM DCM

You can shed a tear now that he’s gone…..or you can smile because he livedYour heart can be empty because you can’t see him …..or it can be full of the love you’ve shared

You can close your eyes and pray he’ll come back…..or you can open them and see all that he’s left for youYou can turn your back on tomorrow and live yesterday…..or you can be happy for tomorrow because of yesterday

You can and close your mind, be empty and turn your back…..or you can do what he’d want, smile, open your eyes, move onYou can remember him and only that he’s gone…..or you can cherish his memory and let it live on

3rd March 1938 8th March 2003

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Battalion Association as the tirelessEditor of the ‘Tiger Tales’ anewsletter with which his namebecame synonymous.

We of the 5th Battalion Associationsend our sympathy to his wife,Marie, and his family.

Brig. Colin Kahn, DSO (Ret.),Commanding Officer, 5RAR2nd Tour, 1969-70.Chairman of the 5th Battalion Assoc.

On Anzac Day this year, I hadplanned to join the 50th year end ofthe Korean War activities. However,I have now decided to march inSydney where I hope that StanMaizey from the first tour will joinme in leading the 5RAR contingent.Have a great Anzac Day whereveryou are.

During last year there have beennumerous platoon and companyreunions that were a great success,especially in bringing back into ourfold a number of former Battalionmembers who had not previously

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The President’s Pen Colin Kahn DSO

“LOSS OF A GREAT TIGER”

BRIAN LONDON……………….was twice decorated for service,outstanding service, to his country.Once, by being made a Member ofthe Order of Australia. But moresignificantly, with the award of theDistinguished Conduct Medal.Primarily for personal bravery butin addition, for Leadership inbattle, in South Vietnam.As a result of not one, but twotours of active service with the 5thBattalion in Vietnam, he was anoutstanding leader who, apart frompersonal courage, providedg u i d a n c e , a s s u r a n c e a n dprofessionalism as an example toyounger soldiers under hiscommand.No greater accolade can be given tohim than to say he was honouredand beloved as a soldier, comradeand leader by his subordinates, hispeers and by senior officers. Hewill be greatly missed by all withwhom he served, namely the‘Tigers’, of both tours.He will be remembered by the 5th

attended any previous functions.I had the privilege of attendingone such occasion held by A Coymembers in Canberra, Oct 2002.I take this opportunity to remindall members that next Battalionreunion will take place inCanberra during the periodaround 1 Mar 2005.Please ensure that sub unitreunions do not clash with thismajor Battalion activity.

Many thousands of Australians who served in PhoucTuy Province will remember the Nui Dinh “hills”,some 10 kilometres west of Nui Dat. They were thescene of many operations by different battalions andwere known to all as “the Warburton’s’ ” or “theWarbies”. How did this come about?

In early 1966 when 5RAR (then at Holsworthy) waswarned for active service, the Intelligence Sectionconstructed a mud map of Phouc Tuy Province and theNui Dinh’s were by far, the dominant feature.

At the time there was a song “Wolverton Mountain”being played on the hit parade and in it’s first versesaid,

“They say don’t go on Wolverton MountainIf you’re looking for a wife

cause Clifton Clowers has a pretty young daughterHe’s mighty handy with a gun and a knife”

A popular member of 10 platoon, D Company, PrivateGraham “Nugget” Warburton was, for no real reason,teased with the lines, “They say don’t go onWarburton Mountain”?

When 10 platoon was being briefed, another member,Colin Illman piped up “that’s Warburton Mountain.”During the night a small flag bearing that name wasplaced on the mud map and the name stuck.

5RAR took the name to Vietnam, little knowing theextent to which it would be used and remembered.

A poignant postscript to this story is that GrahamWarburton was killed on 1 October 1966.

Information provided by:Dennis Rainer and Paul Greenhalgh.

Graham “Nugget” Warburton

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Editors Desk Lou Wagner

By the time you read this edition, it will my firstanniversary as editor. I would like to take thisopportunity to thank everyone for their support,especially those who have phoned or emailed theirbest wishes.

Chaplin: Recently, the AnglicanBishop of North Queensland issuedme with a “Lay Chaplain’s License”,to work with the Vietnam Veteransand their families in this region. It issomething I have been studying forduring the past 8 years and no doubtwill continue doing so.

Girl Talk: Ladies, this has beenkindly taken over by my wife, Anne.So please send your contribution forher attention (same address off course)and she will look after it for you.

Email Addresses: We would like toupdate the email addresses of ourm e m b e r s h i p . P l e a s e e m a i [email protected] As we are expectinga huge response, please limit your reply to full name,postal address, phone number in that order to facilitateidentification followed by your email address.If your surname begins with (ABCDE-email Monday)(FGHIJ-email Tuesday) (KLMNO-email Wednesday)(PQSRT-email Wednesday) (UWVXYZ-emailThursday).

A.W.O.L: I have been informed by Ron Hamlyn

(NMO) that this section in the last two editions hasbeen very successful in tracking down lapsedmembers. This is due solely to your efforts. Giveyourselves a pat on the back and keep up the good

work. The AWOL listing has beenupdated again in this issue. Pleasecheck it carefully.

Printing & Mailing Costs: Sincethe takeover of our Melbourne basedprinters, we have lost our special ratesand cos t s have increaseddramatically. Also, you will knowthat mailing costs have recently goneup. All we ask is that yourmembership is up to date, otherwisesomeone else has to carry the burden.(See back cover)

Privacy Act: If you wanted to readevery piece of legislation regardingthis matter, prepare to settle in for atleast three months (I am not kidding)

and it will probably be amended before you’refinished.

We currently use your information for mailing T.T;for stories herein; if a mate is trying to find you etc.

If you do not want your info to be used, please tell usin writing to: National Membership Officer (Seeaddress details inside back page).WE DO NOT RELEASE YOUR INFORMATIONOUTSIDE THE 5 RAR ASSOCIATION.

A renewed Tiger ( or double trouble )

Trevor Donnelly was visiting his family here in Townsville andsuffered a mild heart attack outside the Kirwan Tavern.

He was admitted to Mater Hospital and found out later herequired an urgent quadruple heart bypass.

He came through the operation successfully and is now walkingand feeling great. He has since returned to Airlie Beach.

Trevor Donnelly served with Sp Coy Trackers on 5RAR secondtour.

RegardsSaint Taffy Cheeseman

Ed also visited and left a copy of TT. Trevor will shortly be anew Association Member. ONYA TREV & TREV

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It was right for Australia to be in Vietnam by Kenneth Gee QC

Two prominent Australian figures, one who fought inVietnam, now doubts whether Australia should havebeen there. The other person also believes that theVietnam War had been misguided.

This is understandable, since the United States, in itsbungled defence of the South against the communistattack, allowed itself to be defeated by Hanoi and itsallies - “the great socialist rear” - and nobody likes tobe associated with a lost war.

Both men say that they speak with the wisdom ofhindsight, but hindsight was a luxury not available tothose who committed Australia to the defence ofSouth Vietnam in 1962 and more fully in 1965.

Consider Australia's military strategic position at thattime.

The Cold War was at its height. It was clear that theSoviets having devoured Eastern Europe, planned totake over Western Europe through the powerful Italianand French Communist Parties. In South-East Asia,the Comintern with Ho Chi Minh as one of its leadingoperators, awaited targets of opportunity.

The Madiun rebellion in Indonesia, the Malaysianinsurrection, the Singapore riots of 1955, wereorganised in Moscow. In Indonesia, Sukano,threatening his neighbours with his ConfrontasiStridency, and in alliance with the huge CommunistParty, planned to take over the vast country; a countryso close to Australia that one could almost swim there.It was saved by a fluke - the survival of two generalsduring the attempted coup of 1965; and in Malaysiathe British fought to contain the insurrection.

Singapore seemed likely “to go down the memoryhole” in Robert Conquest's apt phrase. Lee KwanYew, a brilliant realist, said about Vietnam: “IfVietnam goes by default, we will all go through themincing machine.”

The people of China were chanting, out of Mao's“Little Red Book” that all political power comes outof the barrel of a gun. Korea had only been half heldafter a desperate struggle.

President Kennedy, hardly a warmonger, believed thatunless forces were committed to the defence of SouthVietnam, the whole fabric of the US alliances wouldbegin to unravel. This was the view from the CabinetRoom in Canberra as well, and it was not a prettypicture.

As early as 1962 it was clear; the myth that Viet Congwas a “peasant uprising” was finished and SouthVietnam was facing a massive assault by forcestrained, armed and led by Hanoi.

The NVA’s General Giap put it bluntly to theFrenchman, Bernard Fall. “If we win in Vietnam, wecan win everywhere.”

Our political leaders, lacking an infallible crystal ball,could not have anticipated the problems of ademocratic country waging war against a ruthlesstotalitarian regime.

The unending self examination, the constant breast-beating, of a free society, the capacity to deceive thecommunist propaganda apparatus, the willingness ofmuch of the media to peddle the crudest propagandafrom Moscow and Hanoi and the lauding of “gentleUncle Ho” (in reality, a Comintern operator since1919).

The transformation of the “Peace” movement into apro Hanoi war movement—our Fourth Front, as thecommunists called it, or the “elegant bug-out”organised by Kissinger and nobody could havepredicted Watergate, paralysing Nixon (while thecommunists looked on with amazement); forcing himto resile from his promise to send back the US AirForce if the communists launched a massive attackwith the flood of arms pouring in through Haiphong.

Meantime, in Saigon, the revolving door ofincompetent generals had given way to Thieu’s eight-year Presidency. Under staggering difficulties, thebeginnings of a viable democratic regime were takingshape. Elections, with the Americans watching, werereasonably genuine. A parliament, turbulent andquarrelsome, was nevertheless functioning.

All religions could worship freely; the press wasuntrammelled (American influence again); a legalsystem was in place; the universities were crowded,with many female students. There were steps forwardand backward, but there was hope that a democraticregime could replace the previous colonial orauthoritarian rule.

But there was a also a problem that helps explain whythese prominent Australians present their misgivings.

The US troops in the field, especially those trained byAustralians, were professionally skilled andcourageous, but their command had littleunderstanding of the combination of military force,

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Cont…..subversion, propaganda and terrorism with which thecommunists planned to overwhelm the South and wintotal power.

“We did not lose a single battle”, Kissinger told LeDuc Tho in the negotiations of 1972; “True” repliedLe Duc Tho, “but quite irrelevant.” The Americansput faith in the body count, ignoring the fact that forthe iron men of Hanoi, appalling deaths in battle (suchas the Australians inflicted at Long Tan) meant little tothose whose ideological comrades Stalin, Mao, PolPot, had brought death to millions of their compatriots.

The second US strategy was Graduated Response, apurely reactive policy that deprived the US Army ofsurprise, and excluded the sort of sudden thrust north-ward that had saved South Korea.In the liberal Roche's words, the US was fighting “ahalf-hearted war against a full-hearted enemy”.

The 17th Parallel, the northern border of the South,was un-crossable to the US forces and the ARVN, (thesouthern army), but not to Hanoi's army.Infiltrating across the border, at least ten divisionsarmed with state-of-the-art weaponry from the SovietUnion, tanks, MIG planes, modern rifles, mortars andthe huge mobile guns with which the communistsfinally demolished the concrete defences of Bien MeThot and overwhelmed the southern army.

The ARVN had been abandoned by the US Congressand was hopelessly outgunned. For the Americanpublic, the war had gone on too long and there weretoo many body bags.

A Soviet-made tank burst through the gates of thePresidential Palace, and the war was over.

To look back at this debacle, is to wonder whetherVietnam was all a mistake. Yet in true hindsight, andby one of the paradoxes in which human historyabounds, Vietnam is seen to have had consequencesvital to this country, an enclave in the vast sea of Asia.

Time gained by the Vietnam War, the sheer delay inachievement of communist ambitions, can now beenseen as the turning point.

Whole nations escaped the communist grasp (LeeKwan Yew's mincing machine); Singapore, Thailand,Malaysia, Indonesia survived, with time to begin theirtroubled passage towards viable democracies.

Hanoi itself has modified its Stalinoid rule as it bidsfor foreign capital. The alternative to resistance inVietnam was to see South-East Asia go by default.

Australia would have faced what the leadership fearedwhen we committed troops to Vietnam; a multimillionman wall of hostility to our north, ideologically united,with inbuilt aggression and soaring ambitions.

In true retrospect, both the prominent Australianfigures are mistaken. “It was right for Australia tobe in Vietnam”.

Note:The Hon Kenneth Gee QC was an active members ofthe organisation “Friends of Vietnam” in the 1960'sand 1970's. He was a judge in the County Court inNSW, and active in “Quadrant” at that time.

Editors note:This article used with permission.

In Memoriam John Cowper 1941—2003

The immediate past president of Sydney Legacy, Legatee John Cowper passed awayin his Blue Mountains home 4 Feb 03.

In August 1967 John served in South Vietnam with the Mobile Advisory Teamstationed in the Dat Do district of Phouc Tuy Province, where he received a “Letter ofCommendation” from the US Army’s Province Senior citing his distinguished serviceand devotion to duty. Returning to Oz, John served as Instructor with 3 TrainingGroup at Singleton and then joined 5 RAR Tigers before his discharge in 1972.

John’s devotion and work as a Legatee remains unsurpassed, and his contribution willbe remembered and missed by all. The President and members of the Associationwish to extend their condolences to family and friends.

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Girl Talk presented by Anne Wagner

To begin with, in this issue….I want to thank Marie London forher contributions for this page.

Ladies, do you belong to a Clubor Support Group ? We’d loveto hear about the activities youshare with others. Maybe you’vebeen on a special outing, have aninteresting photo, heard a funnylittle joke/anecdote you would liketo share.Perhaps you have a story to tell, apoem or craft idea, or a favoriterecipe. No matter what it is, Be ASport and Share It, send it in tome so we can get to know eachother & make this page fun &interesting, together.

And Now, On With The Show…

I belong to the Townsville VVCSLadies Support Group. There isa daytime & an evening group. Myday group meets every Thursdayfortnight & we have activitieslined up for the next six months.These include: Cinema Groups,Exploring Family History, Bocce,Line Dancing, Ten Pin Bowling,Guest Speakers, Craft Classes,Fish’n’Chips on The Strand,Aquarobics, Bus Trip & Shoppingto outlying towns, (we intend tomeet with other Support Groups inthose centers) & Dinner Outings.

When Lou & I ‘retired’ from ourwork life, the new car got thrownout of our spacious garage (whichconverted nicely into an attractiveArt Studio), in favor of thriceweekly Glasspainting Classes,which I teach. In addition to thisactivity, every month I produce &present approx. 14 hours of musicprograms & interviews on localCommunity Radio 4ttt FM.

I am actively committed to helpingthe needy, locally & overseas,through my Church Mission-field.I become quite passionate about‘anomalies’ in the basic human

rights of individuals who suffer,through no fault of their own, theinjustices of our present daysociety. In particular, the weak &disabled. I have been known toactively campaign & lobbyGovernments to have these issuescorrectly addressed. One of mygreatest concerns is about the kindof social standards & valuesbeing presented to our children’schildren through the media and Iworry about what’s happening totheir tender minds through themedium of TV. I just can’t helpwondering where it is all leadingto and what kind of future theywill inherit.Lou & I share rights, privilegesand heartaches of an extendedfamily, (20 plus), born of both oursecond marriages. Many’s theshared ‘family gatherings’, manyare the laughs as well as tears, too.All of which, we believe makesfor good healthy relationships.We are all ‘there’ for each otherwhen the need is greatest and thegoing gets tough.

I love traveling about and whenwe went to Canberra in OctoberI met some very interestingpeople. David Harding was oneof these people.David had a wonderful photographalbum with him and he sharedwith me some photos of a groupof veterans who formed up anAssociation in Alice Springs inthe latter part of 2001. I havesince received more informationon this as well as a report of theirtrip home after leaving Canberra.Thanks, David, for your letter,photos & poem. (See page 13)

I love dogs! I’ve owned/ ‘Shown’Lhasa Apso’s in the past & havehad five of these delightful littledogs from Tibet. In each one Ihave found a million endearinglittle characteristics. In each aparticular personality. I havefound joy of life, loyalty & infinite

patience. A great sense of fun, aquick forgiveness, a willingness toplay & participate, an expressiveexcitement. I get very upset at theincredible levels of human crueltyto animals that exists in Australiaas well as overseas. In a book Iread recently I was overwhelmedwith sadness at statistics I foundof ill treated / abandoned animals.

And so I offer this heart rendinglittle piece that Marie London sentin. The author is unknown.

PLEASE TELL ME WHY?

I wish someone could tell me,What it is that I’ve done wrong.Why I have to stay chained up,

And left alone so long.They seemed so glad to have me

When I came here as a pup,There were so many things we’d do,

While I was growing up.

They couldn’t wait to train meAs a companion and a friend.And told me how they’d never

Fear being left alone again.The children said they’d feed me,

And brush me every day.They’d play with me and walk me

If only I could stay.

But now the family ‘haven’t time”They often say I shed,

They do not want me in the houseNot even to be fed.

The children never walk me,They always say ‘Not now!’.I wish I could please them,

Won’t someone tell me how?

All I had, you see, was love,I wish they would explain,

Why they said they wanted me,Then left me on a chain.

Anne’s CommentThis story reflects existing attitudesto the ‘anomalies’ in Human Rightsmentioned earlier. So I ask,‘What about Animal Rights too.? ’‘What are we doing to our childrenand our animals?’All of whom are given into our carefor such a short span of time.

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A.W.O.L. Please help in the search for these association members (Updated this edition)

Last known AddressGeoffrey Boyce Connors Seven Hills NSW

Leslie Warren Darlington Lemon Tree PassageGavan Leo Doyle Ballarat VIC

Bill Evans Kings Beach QLDTerence Gerald Gardiner Bellerive TAS

Colin Douglas Gentry-Pike Wagga Wagga NSWKenneth Thomas Grose Taren Point NSW

Ian Donald Haywood Bargo NSWBruce Ian Holland Williamstown VIC

Albert Joseph McIntosh Narara NSWKenneth William Scaysbrook Scarborough QLD

Guy Hamilton Ansell Coromandel Vlly SARonald James Apps Wangaratta VIC

Richard Blyth Googna QLDBarry Ronald Bond Croydon VICRobert Edward Box Ferntree Gully VICJohn Peter Buzelin Runaway Bay QLD

Donald Alexander Campbell Cann River VICRobert Patrick Paul Carney Keperra QLD

L. Carruthers Cobram VICRonald Peter Chivers Mirani QLD

B. Cook MacGregor ACTB.C. Cook Shoalhaven NSWJ. Cooper Mt St Thomas NSW

Murray Stephen Couper Rivervale WAWilliam Foote Whitebridge NSW

John Genovese Vista SABarry Michael Green Narramine NSWRobert James Hunter Virginia SA

John Charles Innes Blackheath NSWPeter Lapko Robina QLD

Angelo Lazarou Cowra NSWTerence Michael Leo Enoggera QLD

Laurence Victor Lewis Deeragun QLDKimberley William Locke Rockingham WA

Stephen Locke South Penrith NSWJohn William Lloyd Engadine NSW

H. Maalste Broken Hill NSWJames Malony Gympie QLD

Michelle Maltby Brisbane QLDKevan James Masterson Wulagi NT

John McDonough Junction Hill NSWKen McGorman Brooklyn Park SA

Trevor Garry ? McQuade Kongorong SA

Please forward any information to:National Membership Officer

5 RAR AssociationPO Box 432

BOWRAL NSW 2576Ph: 02 9387 2158 Mob: 0407 669 221Email: [email protected]

Name Last known AddressDavid John Mead Singleton NSW

Bruce Roy Mitchell Tugun QLDTerence Patrick Monaghan Mt Waverly VIC

Kimberley John Murphy Albany WAGary Thomas Nottage Port Pirie SA

R. Ockenden Bowen QLDPaul Marek Orlowski West Moonah TAS

Neville David O’Malley Coonamble NSWRobert George Paice Frankston VIC

Garry Leonard Phillips Caloundra QLDMark Pike Eden Hills WA

R. Prior Ennogra QLDArthur Francis Reeves Bli Bli Qld

Alan Riley Windsor NSWClem William Russell Ennoggera QLDBrian Joseph Schultz Sunbury NSW

“Frenchy” Simpson Montmorency VICMichael Raymond Sinclair Parkes NSW

Matthew Kevin Smith Klemzig SARudolf Stachow Queanbeyan NSW

(WO1) M. Strong Melbourne VICJames Douglas Sturla Kenmore QLD

George Szczurko Grange SAPeter James Taylor Kambah ACT

John Cyril Roy Vagg Curtin ACTAnthony Edward Wass Kirwan QLD

Gregory Williams Wallacia NSWDavid George Wilson Moorlap VIC

John Desborough Worrad St Ives NSWMiles Milburn Wright Hallam VIC

Vince Zannino Eagle Heights QLD

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I have just returned from Turkey where I attended thedawn service at ANZAC Cove and later at Lone Pine.This was the most emotional ANZAC day I haveexperienced. I went with Fred Pryde an 82 year oldBuna veteran and Garry Davis, an ex Nasho who wasin my platoon in Vietnam, I was the Pl Sgt.

We discussed how proud we felt when we saw thethousands of young Australians and New Zealandersthat attended the services. They demonstrated a deepinterest in the tragic events that took place in the areacommencing on the 25th April 1915. All of the youngpeople we met, Australians, New Zealanders, andTurks had marvelous attitudes.

Many of these young men andwomen wept during the servicesand this touched us deeply. Wewore medals to the services and therespect and interest shown to us bythese young people was trulyhumbling. They demonstrated adeep sense of pride and gratitude inbeing descendants of those heroicmen who fought so desperately andfor so long in what must have beenthe closest thing to hell I can thinkof.

We saw countless young people proudly waving andcarrying flags, many had them painted on their faces.

During the dawn service at ANZAC Cove my mateFred, nudged me and whispered "turn around" I turnedand saw the first rays of morning sunlight strike thewall of the "Sphinx" just as it would have 87 yearsearlier. The crowd present was huge and includedmany young people, some of whom had backpackedfrom all corners of the globe to paytheir respects.

Despite the size of the crowd,when the bugler played the LastPost you could have heard a pindrop. I could feel the grief in theair; it was electrified withemotional energy.

When we moved to Lone Pine forthe Australian Service, the DirectorOffice of Australian War Gravesasked us if we wished to move into the area roped offfor dignitaries and veterans and of course we said,"Yes." As we walked into the area to take up our seatswe were mystified when the thousands of peoplesitting around the edge of the cemetery stood up to

clap and cheer. As I took my seat with the otherveterans I asked an old Second World War digger,"What's going on, who are they clapping?" The oldman smiled and said, "You mate. They're clappingyou. They're clapping every veteran that enters thearea." I had tears in my eyes thereafter as each veteranthat entered received the same wonderful welcome.When two elderly returned servicewomen, nurses Ibelieve, entered they received a standing ovation fromthis marvelous crowd of patriots.

Prior to the official service commencing the RAAFband played Waltzing Matilda and other stirring tunesbut the song written by Peter Allen, "I still call

Australia home" was sung sobeautifully by a female bandmember it had everyone presentweeping with pride.

Immediately the young womanfinished her singing a young mannot far from us yelled at the top ofhis voice "Aussie, Aussie,Aussie!" The entire crowd eruptedwith a proud "Oi, Oi, Oi."

During the official ceremony theDeputy Prime Minister Mr. Anderson made a touchingand sincere speech about the ANZACS. One of hisown relatives had been killed at Lone Pine.

I looked across at the only Turkish veteran present asMr. Anderson spoke about how the British Generalshad offered the ANZACS gas masks and they'drefused them, saying "we wont need them, the Turkswont use gas, we trust them." They were right theTurks didn't use gas. That old Turk was smiling soproudly it was a sight I will never forget.

He later laid a wreath on behalf ofthe Turkish people and as he laidthe wreath the crowd gave him astanding ovation, he wept.

After the service was over we satnear some Turkish pits along theedge of the road between ChanukBair and Lone Pine watchingsome young Aussies playing two-up, they were betting in the onlymoney they had, millions of

Turkish lire. Soon a touring bus covered in Australianflags stopped and more young Aussies climbed outand onto the bus roof and joined in the game of"Swy". Fred, Davo and I chuckled among ourselveswhen we heard, "Can anyone cover this 5 million overhere before I let 'em go again?" Fred asked me, "5

The Anzac Spirit

ANZAC COVE

LONE PINE

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Cont…..million? That's not much more than 5 bucks in Aussiedollars is it?"

I replied, "I don't know Fred, I can't get my headaround all these millions yet, but I know this much, Ireckon if we could see ghosts, there'd be thousands ofthem lined up along the road right now getting theirbets on."

These proud young people were filled with theANZAC Spirit and if their behavior wasn't enough toprove that, a few minutes later a middle aged Turk satby the side of the road with us and in the clearestEnglish asked each of us to explain what our medalsrepresented. He then said, "You know I can'tremember the last time I cried, I suppose that'sbecause it was long ago and I was a small child. I lovethe ANZAC Spirit. Today, as the politicians and theGenerals entered the official area there was barely anyresponse, just a few people clapped. When mycountryman, the old veteran, laid his wreath, thecrowd gave him a standing ovation and I cried."

This article was published in the Canberra LegacyBulletin, June 2002.

The Author is Mr. Robert S Kearney

L-R...Gary Robert Taffy Turk Vet Fred

In this photo, Garry Davis, who was a scout in 7 Pl CCoy 3 RAR with me in 1971, (I was the PlatoonSergeant,) is wearing his own medals from Vietnam,his father’s from WW2 and his grandfather’s fromWW1.

On my left is Trevor “Taffy” Cheeseman. Trevor wasmy section 2IC in Recce Platoon 5 RAR in 1966, hewas badly wounded by a grenade near the old FrenchVilla at Binh Ba. He recovered back in Australia andreturned to Vietnam to serve again with 5RAR on theBattalions second tour.

Standing alongside “Taff” is Turkish war veteran wholaid a wreath at the Australian Memorial, Lone Pineand next to him is Fred Pryde who served in the 13th

Field Regiment, Artillery at Buna during WW2.

Robert S Kearney.

Film Australia are making a documentary called Colour Of War and we are currently searching for all Colour filmfootage prior to 1975. We are especially looking for footage, which relates to the war, or home movies fromaround that time (WWII and Vietnam war).We were thinking this might be something you could mention to your members as they may be interested and mayhave some footage themselves they would like to share? Or their older relatives! I can post you some flyers aboutthe search to give out to members if you would like to help support the search?

I would appreciate it if you could let me know if this would be possible and if you need any further details pleasedo not hesitate to contact me on 02 9413 8707.

Kind regardsCaroline HamlenCOLOUR OF WAR - THE ANZACS

Colour Film Search

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The time, 5.30 am, feeling tired after two, 2 hour shiftsthroughout the night on sentry duty, it is one hourbefore first light, and it was time to Stand To andawaken everybody in the section. Stand To requiredeverybody to drop hutchies, pack up gear, combat kiton for the hour just in case the enemy wanted to attackour position.

Just before Stand Down is given, clearing patrols goout around your part of the perimeter. The order standdown is passed around once all the clearing patrols arein and sentries posted, The morning routine thenbegins, weapon cleaning, eating, brewing up, shavingand generally getting ready for the day. During thisperiod, the section comdrs are briefed and orderspassed on to all the sections.

The signal is given “move out in 5 min”; a simplefield signal of rolling your shoulders and the five-fingered sign, talking is kept to a minimum no noise ispremium. The early warning sentries are brought backin, the section scouts move to platoon HQ to await thefinal signal to move out. I then ensure my bearings arecorrect and check my map making a mental picture ofthe ground, it’s features, over which we will patrolgiving me more time to concentrate on things aroundme. Finally My scout leads and we move out.

Our task is to search a creek line and some highground for any sign of Charlie (enemy) covering sevengrid squares. The morning was bright, sticky and hotas usual.

As we patrolled you stopped and listened every sooften, so the pace was slow. We were attuned to thejungle as we had already been in the field for threeweeks, our sense of smell was acute, and our hearingsharp.

The forward scout moves cautiously forward, and attimes looking to the rear to ensure he has not lost sightof me, and watching for any of my hand signals. Thearea started to open up, and it appeared like we weremoving over an old track. No sign that Charlie hadbeen using it.

Then suddenly Khan the Battalion CommandingOfficer flew overhead in his Bell chopper, just abovethe trees, you could see his M16 pointing out the sideready to be used if he received enemy fire from theground.

The ground started to fall away in front of us towardsthe creek; you could hear the running water. The scoutwas 20 metres from its bank when he signalled me tocome forward. Placed my compass in it’s pouch, took

a more comfortable grip on my weapon. Looked overthe gunners shoulder, and lo and behold there wasCharlie on the opposite side of the creek looking thisway; one was pointing his finger directly at us, as ifwarning the others.

I could see his face and finger wagging, he was partlyobscured by the bushes and did not seem concerned orpanic as it was only minutes ago the helicopter flewoverhead.

Instantly I fired five rounds from the shoulder at him.The gun group was right at my heels and they fired aburst as the rest of the section moved up behind us.

Charlie did not fire back, giving us the opportunity tomove into an assault formation. The other twosections moved up to cover our flanks, all rounddefence as part of our contact drill.

The platon comdr assessing the situation ordered us tomoved quickly through ankle deep water andsweeping through the enemy position, we found nobodies.The enemy had left everything behind in his rush toget away. We thought there were about three by thegear left behind. We stayed for an hour, searchingthrough the equipment for information.

We did not follow up Charlie, as other platoons werein close vicinity, and they were given the task tosearch and later found a dead body 500 metres fromthe camp.Because of the contact the company commander sent amessage that company HQ would tag on behind us.

Once we were linked we moved on, and once againmy section was given the task to lead the companyout, the only noise we could hear was the runningwater. We were all on edge and nervous knowing thatthe enemy are around.

There was a tendency for forward scouts to initiallymove very slowly after having being in contact. Iwaited for him to look around, and gave him the fieldsignal to step out a bit, as we had a lot of ground tocover that day.

Forty minutes later a field signal came forward a five-minute break, and section comd to come here, wassent forward from PL HQ. The platoon commandersaid the first leg was over and to change direction forthe next stage. We both checked and confirmedbearings. As I moved back to the section I briefedeverybody and the scout then continued on.

A Soldiers Day at War - SVN Submitted by “Taffy” Cheeseman

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The ground now started to rise in front of us, andwhen it does, you always think bunker systems.Within 10 minutes strong signs did start to appear, thescout called me forward and pointed out a well-worntrack following the high ground. I sent the messageback to the platoon commander that I was goingforward to do a recce.

Signs were very strong, when I noticed trees were cutvery short to the ground with tuffs of dirt sitting on topto camouflage the stump, which made it harder to seefrom the air, or even from the ground.

As I moved forward the ground started to rise sharplythen to my left I noticed where there had been a sentryposition. The grass was compressed and the area wascleared and only recently used. Cigarette butts werestrewn everywhere, and I did not notice until I waspractically standing in it.

My finger moved on the trigger of the M16, thumbwrapped around the safety catch, and searched ahead.With the track still rising, noticed a woodpile neatlystacked which stood a metre high. Then I noticedmovement beside it that caught the eye, and realised itwas someone’s backside dressed in black pants.

Having the advantage of surprise, I rushed forward upthe rising ground released my safety catch and firedtwo rounds at point blank range into this woman’sback, her ponytail hung low and parted with themuzzle flash.

Within that split second looked up and noticed otherssitting around weapons between their legs, abouttwenty, and attempted to fire into the group but theweapon would not fire, I had a double feed and notime to carry out an immediate action to clear theobstruction.

This was an enemy camp, an old bunker system. Theenemy were only five metres away. They were in asmuch shock as I was. They did not move, they wereall staring my way .Not going to stay here, so flungmyself backwards into dead (low depression) groundbehind me, threw the pack off, cleared the weapon,and crawled back to the section, who were by thenfiring over my head, giving covering fire.

The enemy group put up strong resistance for aboutfive minutes, and fired a couple of RPG2 (rocketpropelled grenades) into the trees. Their intentionswere to collect the body, drag it away and piss off.

Then all of a sudden the enemy firing ceased, no noisecame from their direction.

We also stopped firing, and listened. Then withinminutes the platoon comdr ordered us to assault thebunkers.

Rushing forward firing as we went pass the wood pile,and deeper into the position nobody was there. Deeperinto the position we advanced, shouting making outwe was a much larger force. Cutting as we went withour machetes, the Chinese chicom mines electricalwire lying around, or it could have been signal wire,we were not certain but we cut it anyway. The wiringstood out, as it was a blue colour . Their mines arebigger than our own claymore mines, and very nasty.

No claymores or bodies were found, and the positionwas an old one. All the weapon pits were filled in andblown up by other units that had moved through thearea maybe American or South Vietnamese.

We did find a large cassette tape recorder withpropaganda on it, tucked away in a collapsed pitwrapped in plastic, which was sent back to theBattalion Intelligence group to be scrutinized.

They must have heard us earlier on in the first contact,and were getting ready to move on from allindications. The woman was acting as the sentry itseems, but happened to turn around at the wrongmoment to hear what was being said, and took hereyes off the track, and did not see me rushing up.

Some of enemy did come sneaking back to have alook and shot Jack Loader in the back. He survivedand went on to serve for many years.

The day continues another platoon takes over as pointammunition throughout the platoon has beenreallocated, no doubt ambushing again .

I served with 5RAR Vietnam 66/67 69/70. The 5thBattalion was formed from 1RAR of which I was amember for 12 months and made up the first section.I was wounded late on my first tour and went back fora second tour 18 months later.I was still with the battalion when 5/7 RAR wereformed and discharged from the Army 1983.

I worked for a time at Coffs Harbour City Councilthen moved to Telstra for a further 12 years. I retiredfrom the workforce in 1996 because of my war causeddisabilities and now live in Townsville.

Cont…...

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2/5th’s Famous “Bull” Allan By Lou O’Dea

The presidents address to the 2/5th Battalion Association brought to mind an event involving one of their famoussoldiers.

Whilst serving with 3 Training Group, we named the soldiers canteen at OR Trg Wing at Puckapunyal in honourof Cpl Leslie Clarence “Bull” Allan.

It was a grand occasion as is depicted in the photos below. I thought you might like to use them in TT as a way ofmaintaining our Associations Link with the 2/5th.

Regrettably, “Bull” passed away a few years after this event, but his memory lives on.

“Bull” addressing theARES recruits at theopening of the canteen 6thDecember 1979, whileCol J Bavington and Ilistened and learned.

ARES Band and Guard leadapproximately 60 2/5th“Tambu Tigers” to “Bulls”canteen (Free Grog). Had thatbeen known, they would haveled the band !!!!!!!

Seated nearest camera is Col StanMaizey (ex 2IC 5 RAR) next toMrs. Allan. A WW2 Nursing CorpSister and members of the AllanFamily. Far end, USA ArmyReserve Captain and WO2 JackSheather.

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Travelers Tales …….from David Harding ...Gawler S.A.

I thoroughly enjoyed the weekend in Canberra forthe 10th Anniv. Rededication of the Vietnam VeteransMemorial, as well as the function on the boat.

Fellow travelers from Gawler S.A., Wayne Clark,David Oldroyd & myself travelled over-land toEchuca to meet up with Bob Baker, then on toNagambie, Vic. to visit Bruce Shannon. (We were all5RAR A coy 2 pltin Vitnam 66-67.) After anovernight stay we set off early next morning butcollected a ’skippy’ about a mile out finishing up byrearending into a gum tree & had to be towed in toHeathcote with $12,000 damage. Borrowing a car toget to Bendigo we hired a Rental car to complete thereturn journey to Gawler. Meeting up with our 5 RARmates made the hazards of travel all worthwhile.

A group of 5 RAR (66-67) men, with their wives,gathered together for a stay in lovely cabins at theMcLaren Vale Caravan Park on the 1st weekend ofNovember. From there we embarked upon a weekendof Touristy things like Winery visits, shoppingexpeditions and realy great sightseeing tours in thearea. We finished up on Saturday night with a lovelymeal at one of the local Hotels. It was a great weekendshared with Elaine & David Harding, Chris &JulieKuchenmeister, Wayne & Margaret Clark, Peter &Brigitte Standford, Graham & Val Fennell, Alan &Bev Waldron. We all had such a great time we hopeto do the same thing next year in another area of S.A.

My wife, Elaine, & I were in Alice Springs inSeptember 2001 and together with Ron & KathCoxon, began a Branch of the Vietnam Veteran’sAssociation. Today it is still attracting strong support.

A poem written by the wife of an Alice springsVietnam Veteran was published in the localnewspaper, ‘The Bunyip’ and has been enclosed alongwith a newspaper clipping of the foundation members.

(Anne’s Note; The newspaper clipping cannot bereproduced due to technical difficulties, but thefounding members are listed in same and here notatedThe poem will be published in the next issue.)

Alice SpringsVietnam Veterans AssociationDavid Harding appears in the clipping with;

President Peter AebersoldGraeme PopeMike FraserRon Coxon

Peter Aebersold invites all Vietnam Vets in thearea to come forward.Make contact with the Association and take advantageof the benefits they are rightfully entitled to.

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Your Editor asked me to write about the life today ofJean Lamensdorf (nee Debelle). Having always beenscared of Editors, here goes:

After Vietnam I did another year with Red Cross atRAAF Butterworth and I was probably the onlyperson posted there who didn't love it. After therealism of Vietnam it seemed to me too slow andresort-like. I found myself spending most of my timewith a small army unit instead of the air force boys.

Upon leaving Red Cross I worked in newspapers andwomen's magazines until my employer, the SydneyMorning Herald group, sent me to Manhattan in 1980.There I found the “Perfect Man.” My husband, JackLamensdorf.Jack and I came back to Australia and were married inAdelaide in 1981.

After having moved back to Manhattan, I accepted aposition with a computer magazine company. Myportfolio was to set up foreign language editions of“PC Magazine” and other titles.This was an opportunity to see the world at my boss’sexpense as well as a trip “Down Under” every year.Mind you, I did pay, with long hours and hard work.

The assignment that most stays in my mind is SaudiArabia. Firstly, to enter the country without a maleescort gives Saudi officials a real belly ache, and sohad to cover myself with the traditional ABAYA(head to toe in black). As I look back and think aboutthe ABAYA and what it represents, I realize just howlucky I am to live in a western country.

When Jack and I retired in 1995, we moved fromManhattan to the beautiful countryside of southernPennsylvania.

In my retirement, I teach the History of Australia atthe University of Delaware. It is a special program forseniors (no wise cracks you lot) and I am proud to saythat Oz is a hot topic here.

When I tell them about the Aussies in the Vietnamwar, many Americans are surprised to hear thatanyone else was there with them! They don'tappreciate that Australia has been the US's closest allysince World War II.

As well as Jack, I have three step-daughters and fourgrandchildren. I play golf badly, do volunteer work,and keep fit by shoveling snow off the driveway inwinter and chasing deer back into the woods for therest of the year.

I am currently writing “The Book” (yet untitled) inwhich many of you are mentioned. Win, mywonderful Vung Tau room-mate has helped meenormously with it, as have so many of you blokes.

It has been great to rekindle old friendships and toremember things long past. America has given me awonderful life, but as I communicate with you, Irealize even more how much I still love and miss my“Sunburnt Country”.My admiration for you all is deeper than ever, as Irediscover the horrors you faced daily and I hope thatmore of you will make contact.

Until then, big hugs to all you wonderful men.

Jean Lamensdorf105 Alford Crt

Chadds Ford PA 19317USA

Email: [email protected]

Red Cross Nurse Revisited

Jean and Jack Lamensdorf Jan 2003

Jean, Jack and friend, Bob Grandin May 2000Bob was a 9 Sqn chopper pilot who flewthe ammo in at the Battle of Long Tan

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Funny BoneBE STRONG

A prisoner escapes from his maximum security prisonwhere he had been kept for 5 years. As he runs away,he finds a house and breaks into it. He finds a youngcouple in bed.

He gets the guy out of bed, ties him up on a chair, tiesup the woman to the bed and while he gets on top ofher, he kisses her on the neck, then gets up, and goesto the bathroom.

While he is there, the husband tells his wife: "Listen,this guy is a prisoner, look at his clothes! He probablyspent a lot of time in prison, and has not seen a womanin years.

I saw the way he kissed your neck. If he wants sex,don't resist, don't complain, just do what he tells you,give him satisfaction. This guy must be dangerous, ifhe gets angry, he will kill us. Be strong, honey. I loveyou"

To which the wife responds, "He was not kissing myneck. He was whispering in my ear. He told me that hefound you very sexy, and asked if we kept anyVaseline in the bathroom. Be strong honey, I love youtoo…”

MURPHY’S LAW(Murphy was an optimist)

♣ Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate♣ If you’re feeling great, don’t worry, you’ll get over

it .♣ You will always find something in the last place

you look.♣ The other queue always moves faster.♣ In order to get a loan, you first have to prove that

you don’t need it.♣ If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing

anyway.♣ No matter how long or hard you shop for an item,

after you bought it, it will be on sale cheapersomewhere else.

♣ The light at the end of the tunnel is the headlight ofan oncoming train.

EVER WONDERED

why the sun lightens our hair, but darkens our skin ?

why you don’t ever see the headline “Psychic WinsLotto” ?

why “abbreviated” is such a long word ?

why doctors call what they do “practice” ?

why lemon juice is made with artificial flavor, whiledishwashing liquid is made with real lemons ?

why the man who invests all your money is called a“Broker” ?

why there isn't mouse-flavored cat food ?

who tastes dog food when it has “New & ImprovedFlavor” ?

why Noah didn’t swat those two mosquitoes ?

why they sterilize the needle for lethal injections ?

why they don’t make the whole plane out of thematerial used for the indestructible black box ?

why sheep don’t shrink when it rains ?

SIGNS

On a septic tank truck“We’re #1 in the #2 business”

Above a proctologists door“To expedite your visit, please back in”

On a plumbers truck“We repair what you husband fixed”

On a plumbers truck“Don’t sleep with a drip. Call a plumber”

Above a plastic surgeons door“Can we pick your nose ?”

On an electricians truck“Let us remove your shorts”

Above an optometrists door“If you don’t see what you’re looking for,you’ve come to the right place”

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QLD

NSW 8.30 am, RAR Association Memorial Service at Regimental Square ☻ FUP with RAR Association in Battalion order (1 - 9) ☻ President Colin Kahn and Stan Maisey will lead the Battalion ☻ After march drinks/lunch (members to purchase own) at the CROWN HOTEL, Cnr ElizabethGoulbourn Sts, (Ph 02 9267 6793)▪

VIC

TAS No changes to Anzac Day parade.

S A No changes to Anzac Day parade ☻ Main RAR reunion is held at the Old Lion Hotel on Melbourne Street North Adelaide immediately after the parade ☻ There is also a reunion held at the Vietnam Veterans Assoc. HQ at the Walkerville RSL Hall for mainly the other corps ☻ No specific 5RAR reunion is held in this State.

W A

ACT 5 RAR members will march with the RAR Association in Canberra ☻ FUP western side of ANZAC Parade between the Korean and Vietnam Memorials ☻ After the March, the 5 RAR members will meet in the Olims Hotel on the corner of Ainslie and Limestone Aves’ for

ANZAC DAY 2003

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They seek him here, they seek himthere; that elusive TIGER, can notbe found anywhere.

In the absence of Sunray (on otherduties) the cubs formal address isdelivered by none other than thevery capable, dynamic, suave,sophisticated terror of the jungle;the one and only Lt Col BarryMorgan, Committee Member andACT Representative extraordinaire

ONYA BAZZA

(Psst, I’ll collect the gratuity later)

More cubs learn Tiger history

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Membership & Memorabilia Payment / Order Form

Current 5 RAR Memorabilia For Sale Price Each Qty Amount

Vietnam Task $ 28

Honour Roll $ 30

Car Stickers $ 3

Caps $ 13

Ties $ 15

TAC Plates $ 20

Mini Banner $150

Polo Shirt Navy $ 28

Polo Shirt White $ 28

Chambray Shirt $ 38

Battalion Plaque $ 45

5 RAR Association Membership to 2005 $ 25

Grand Total $

(See next page for memorabilia)

Medium Large X Large

Medium Large X Large

Medium Large X Large

Please tick shirt size

Surname: First Name/s:

Address: State: P/ Code:

Home Phone: Mob: Email:

Brief history of service / link with 5 RAR (only for new memberships)

Please remit this form and payment to:The Secretary5 RAR AssociationPO Box 432BOWRAL NSW 2576

5 RAR ASSOCIATION APPLICATION FORM

Please tick a box to indicate your use of this formJoining / Renewing Membership Change of Address Purchase of Memorabilia

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POLO SHIRTWHITE & NAVY

5R

AR

TIE

5 RAR PLAQUE CAR STICKER

5 RAR CAP

5 RAR BANNER

FIRST TOUR

HONOUR ROLL

CHAMBRAY DRESSSHIRT

RED REFLECTIVE BATTALION VEHICLE PLATES

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PresidentBrig. Colin Khan DSOUnit 507 2 Marcus Clarke StCanberra ACT 2601Ph: 02 6257 7249Email: (Not Avail)

Vice PresidentMaj. John Miller CVO,AM,MBE26 Allenby Park ParadeAllambie Heights NSW 2100Ph: 02 9938 6312Email: (Not Avail)

SecretaryMr. Geoff PearsonPO Box 698Caringbah NSW 1495Ph: 02 9524 3177 Fax: 02 9524 3272Email: [email protected]

TreasurerMr. R. (Bob) Fenwick5 Mt Pleasant AveMona Vale NSW 2103Ph: 02 9999 4616Email: [email protected]

CommitteeBrig. John Hooper CBE22 Thomson PdeDalmeny NSW 2546Ph: 02 4476 7161Email: (Not Avail)

CommitteeMaj. Bryan Schafer42 Delaunay StIngleburn NSW 2565Ph: 02 9605 5841Email: [email protected]

CommitteeMr. Brian Budden47 Bay RdTaren Point NSW 2229Ph: 02 9525 0355 Fax: 02 9525 3395Email: [email protected]

CommitteeMr. Trevor CarterPO Box 545South Hurstville NSW 2221Ph: 02 9587 9670Email: [email protected]

National Membership Officer & NSW RepLt Col. Ron Hamlyn31 Kenilworth StBondi Junction NSW 2022Ph: 02 9387 2158 Mob: 0407 669 221Email: [email protected]

ACT RepresentativeLt Col. Barry Morgan10 Leven StAmaroo ACT 2914Ph: 02 6255 4531 Fax: 02 6255 4352Email: [email protected]

VIC RepresentativeMr. Kerry O’Connor101 Mt Gisborne RdGisborne VIC 3437Ph: 03 5428 3249Email: [email protected]

TAS RepresentativeGerry Coret J.P.36 Campbell StNewstead TAS 7250Ph: 03 6334 0562Email: [email protected]

S.A & N.T. RepresentativeMr. Chris KuchenmeisterUnit 1 2 Michael StEncounter Bay S. Aust 5211Ph & Fax: 08 8552 1946Email: [email protected]

W.A. RepresentativeMr. Peter de Masson8 Elmton CrtDuncraig W. Aust 6023Ph: 08 9448 5744Email: [email protected]

CommitteeMr. R. (Bob) Trenear32 Gregory TceLapstone NSW 2773Phone: 02 4739 5487Email: (Not Avail)

QLD RepresentativeMr. Warren Burns1 Cheppen StThe Gap QLD 4061Ph: 07 3300 3082Email: [email protected]

EDITOR CLOSING DELIVERY EDITION

15th Mar 1st wk Apr Anzac Day

15th Jul 1st wk Aug Veterans Day

15th Nov 1st wk Dec Christmas Edition

Lou WagnerPO Box 211Aitkenvale QLD 4818Ph & Fax: 07 4775 7554Email: [email protected]

“5RAR Association Home Page”http://www.users.bigpond.com/brian.london

Webmaster: Brian London

“Fifth Battalion Operations & History”http://www.netspace.net.au/~harrisonWebmaster: Edmund (Ted) Harrison

The “Guest Book” & “Forum Page” are the same for; and can be reached through either site

IMPORTANT NOTICES

Battalion Reunion: March 2005 in Canberra / Mark your diaries / Save your pennies / BE THERE

Pioneers Reunion: Assault Pioneers 1st Tour Proposed Oct 2003 / Contacts: Glen Smith 0414 776 278Chris Kuchenmeister 08 8552 1946 or [email protected]

Old Mates Search: Geoff Parker, formally of D Coy/HQ Coy, 2nd Tour, is trying to make contact with oldmates. Contact details are; P.O. Box 41, Ballarat, Vic. 3353.Ph. 03 5341 3122; email; [email protected]

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IMPORTANT NOTICE ON MEMBERSHIP PERIOD & FEES

There has been some confusion recently, so I will clarify the situation.

Initial membership was for a 5 years @ $5 per year; that is $25 which expires 28th Feb 2005. Thereason for this date is that it coincides with the Battalion Birthday; 1st March recurring.

On the 1st March 2005 renewals will be changed (more information later) and a slight fee increasewill be required to cover continually rising costs.

Currently, everyone is receiving Tiger Tales, even unfinancial members (UF), which may have tobe reviewed in the future.

Please check the date on your address label: If it is less than 2005, you are unfinancial.

N.B. Next Of Kin are exempt from membership fees.

If undeliverable return to:5 RAR AssociationPO Box 432Bowral NSW 2576

Tiger Tales

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