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Vimshottari Dasha © Copyright Material click SITEMAP . [ Some material on this page is already published original research , which may be cited in part or whole with acknowledgement. ] The Secret Behind Vimshottari Dasha System There are many types of Dashās, ten of which are based on Nakshatras. Vimshottari Dashā is held to be the most important Dashā System in Jyotisha of Vedic- Purānic tradition. Most often, astrologers of this tradition do not even take into consideration other dashā systems and base their conclusions solely upon Vimshottari. Following points must be considered before deciding anything in this regard : (1) BPHS (Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra) never said solar year should should be used for Vimshottari; (2) BPHS clearly said that Vimshottari must be computed from Moon's position and not from Sun's position; (3) Vimshottari year is of 360 days which may have two meanings : lurar year of 360 tithis or savana year of 360 days, but this savana year of 360 days is a later myth with neither any scientific validity supporting any solar cycle of 360 days nor any basis in ancient sisshantas, and (4) the final proof is Suryasiddhantic software

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The Secret Behind Vimshottari Dasha SystemThere are many types of Dashs, ten of which are based on Nakshatras. Vimshottari Dash is held to be the most important Dash System in Jyotisha of Vedic-Purnic tradition. Most often, astrologers of this tradition do not even take into consideration other dash systems and base their conclusions solely upon Vimshottari.

Following points must be considered before deciding anything in this regard :

(1) BPHS (Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra) never said solar year should should be used for Vimshottari;(2) BPHS clearly said that Vimshottari must be computed from Moon's position and not from Sun's position; (3) Vimshottari year is of 360 days which may have two meanings : lurar year of 360 tithis or savana year of 360 days, but this savana year of 360 days is a later myth with neither any scientific validity supporting any solar cycle of 360 days nor any basis in ancient sisshantas, and (4) the final proof is Suryasiddhantic software 'Kundalee' which must be tested before rushing to conclusions.

Vimshottari is the most important dasha system according to all "authorities" , but owing to wrong methods of its computation, it has become less precise ; as a result instead of rectifying their own errors some modern messiahs are giving more weight other dasha systems, some of which are not even mentioned in BPHS. But if ancient method of computation is used, Vimshottari Dasha proves to be to be the most influential dasha system

But there are two obstacles which prevent accurate timing of events with the help of vimshottari system. One is the use of Drik-pakshiya mathematics, ie, modern astronomy , for finding true longitudes of planets and ascendant, etc. Second problem is the use of solar year for reckoning, in spite of the fact that all ancient texts explicitly mention that the year of vimshottari system comprises of 360 days only. Due to these two errors, the timing of events in vimshottari system errs by many years.

Vimshottari system is based upon lunar nakshatra, hence its year ought to be lunar. Indian tradition year is a ccombination of solar and lunar, known as luni-solar year, like other ancient systems. In lunar year, there are 360 tithis or lunar days, which is the year of vimshottari system. 360 tithis are equal to 354.37 solar days. Therefore, there is a difference of 3% between solar year and vimshottari year. Add to this 3% error the difference on account of Drik-pakshiya and Saur-pakshiya positions of Moon. Drik-pakshiya world is the phenomenal sensory world , which is manifest to human sense organs. It is the material world. Saur-pakshiya world is the non-material world in which deities reside. All ancient texts of Vedic-Purnic tradition say that the Grahas of Jyotisha are gods and are diverse incarnations of God. God and gods are conscious entities and it is wrong to conceptualize them as material bodies. Material planets intruded into astrology only during past one or two millenia, but even today there are a large number of astrologers in India who refuse to accept computer softwares based upon modern astronomy, and use traditional almanacs or panchngas. These traditional panchngas are crudely made, yet the vimshottari timings based upon them prove to be far more accurate than those based upon materialist astronomy. Now, highly precise software based upon traditional Surya-siddhntic system is also in the market, distributed as a freeware for philanthropic purpose. If birth-time is approximately correct, and few very good or very bad events in the life of a person is known, then precise birth-time can be fixed, and thereafter very accurate forecasts can be drawn from this software, accurate upto prna-dash. This software has been tested for natural disasters like floods, earthquakes, cyclones, etc and the result is 100% positive. Total annual and fortnightly (actually, during solar nakshatra) rainfall data of past 135 years of India have been tested, and this software is 100% accurate. But this software is not based upon the faulty interpretation of Surya-siddhnta by E. Burgess. Instead, ancient Surya-siddhntic methods have been used in it.

The maximum amount of correction made in mean Moon according to Surya-siddhnta is nearly 1.5 degrees less than that made according to modern astronomy. It is nearly 1 / 9 of a nakshatra which is equal to 13:20 . Due to this factor alone, vomshottari period of Venus, Saturn and Rahu (lunar node) will vary by 2 years and more. Add to it the difference due to descrepancies between Surya-siddhntic mean Moon with the mean Moon of materialist astronomy. And then add the 3% error due to wrong year imposed upon vimshottari system. Total error in timing of vimshottari dashs will be over 5 years in modern era, when differences between mean planets of Surya-siddhnta show minimum divergence from those of materialist astronomy. In distant ages, the difference was greater. In 21000 years, difference between Drik-pakshiya and Saur-pakshiya positions of planets increases by 180. Within a few centuries, Drik-pakshiya astronomy will lose its charm in astrology as vimshottari dashs will show intolerable errors.

Even today, Drik-pakshiya astronomy gives errors of 5 years in timing of vimshottari dashs. As a result, 19% of Mah-dashs and a much greater portion of antar-dashs are wrong. Pratyantar, sukshma and prna dashs are almost always in the wrong. As a result, astrologers take a recourse to other dash systems, palmistry, numerology, etc for satisfying their clients. Very few persons are trying to test the Surya-siddhntic software, due to the venomous propaganda against Surya-siddhnta by materialists. Surya-siddhnta is not a text of materialist astronomy, and it is interpreted materialistically by materialists, by comparison with planetary positions. The proof of Surya-siddhnta is Phalit Jyotisha ( predictive astrology) based upon it, it is wrong to use modern astronomy as a yardstick for testing the reliability of Surya-siddhnta. I have met persons who refuse to test Surya-siddhntic software of Phalit Jyotisha named 'Kundalee', calling Surya-siddhnta to be an outdated and useless work ! Even criminals get a chance to prove themselves, but Surya-siddhnta is denied this chance in a materialist age. By rejecting the only accurate method of astrology, who will prove to be a loser ?

Now let us talk about the design of Vimshottari system. Arrange the planets according to the plan as depicted in upper picture. This arrangement is based upon planetary distances. Omit Rahu, Ketu and Moon initially, which are not full planets. Inner planets, including Sun, are in the right half of the upper picture. Outer planets are on the left side of the upper picture. Now add up their duration of years as given in the vimshottari dash system. In left half, we get

(Saturn 19) + (Jupiter 16) + (Mars 7) = 42 years

and in right half we get

(Mercury 17) + (Venus 20) + (Sun 6) = 43 years

Total of all 9 planets is 120 lunar years in the vimshottari system. Both halves should have 60 years each. Left half in upper picture has a deficit of 18 years, which only Rahu can give, and right half has a deficit of 17 years which only a combination of Ketu and Moon can supply. Thus we get the lower picture of vimshottari dash system. Rahu and Ketu must be placed opposite to each other, and Moon should be placed alongwith the Sun but not between Sun and any planet ( i.e., Venus). It is safe to put Rahu and Ketu away from Sun and Moon . Since distances from the Sun was the basis of this plan, vimshottari dash system ought to start with Sun. As in the lower picture, we get the sequence Sun : Moon : Mars : Rahu : Jupiter : Saturn : Mercury : Ketu : Venus which is the sequence given in all ancient texts, esp. by Sage Parshara.

In adhyya 3, khanda 16 of Chndogya Upanishada, there are 7 shlokas which describe three stages in the lifespan of a person, being of 24, 44 and 48 years respectively, which are the number of syllables in three important Vedic metres Gayatri, Trishtup and Jagati. Total lifespan of a human being is here said to be of 116 years.

In Vimshottari dash system full lifespan of a human being is equal to 120 lunar years, which is equal to 116.4 solar years which, when rounded off, is same as that given in the Chndogya Upanishada.

One question remains to be answered : what is the rationale behind the number of years assigned to different planets in the vimshottari dash system ? Who will find a plausible answer to this intriguing question ? Non-Indian Variants of Vimshottari System

Details about the mediaeval dashaa system Firdaria can be viewed at many websites ,such as :

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/firdar.html , http://firdaria.com/method.php

"Firdaria" is etymologically related to same root (Greek : periodos , Sanskrit : Paridhi )) from which English word "period" has been derived. In Firdaria system, for diurnal charts the period begins with the Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Saturn, Jupiter , Mars, Rahu and Ketu. Each one has a different time range : Sun 10 years, Venus 8 , Mercury 13, Moon 9, Saturn 11, Jupiter 12, Mars 7, Rahu 3 and Ketu 2 years. For nocturnal charts, the period begins with the Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Rahu, Ketu, Sun, Venus, Mercury , each planet having same durations. "

If Moon, Rahu and Ketu are omitted, both diurnal and nocturnal sequences in Firdaria system are as follows :

Sun, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars : ( Diurnal ): ( Nocturnal )

The nocturnal sequence is same as the diurnal, only the starting poing is different, Moon instead of the Sun. Now, reverse the sequence. We get :

Sun , Mars , Jupiter , Saturn , Mercury , Venus

Hence, if seqience is reversed, Firdaria System is same as Indian Vimshottari, excepting the placing of Moon and its nodes. Following is the Vimshottari sequence followed by reversed Firdaria Sysyem :

Sun , Moon , Mars , Rahu , Jupiter , Saturn , Mercury , Ketu , Venus :- Vimshottari

Sun , Ketu , Rahu , Mars , Jupiter , Saturn , Moon , Mercury , Venus :- Firdaria

Now, compare this reversed firdaria sequence with the circular design of Vimshottari shown in pictures above. In Firdaria System, Moon and its nodes have been placed exactly at the juncture of both halves, i.e., Moon placed between Saturn and Mercury at the top, and nodes placed between Mars and Sun at the bottom. Thus, Firdaria System sprang from the same source which gave rise to Vimshottari. If durations of planets are scrutinized, Firdaria Sysyem does not yield the symmetrical arrangement as found in the case of Vimshottari as shown above. Hence, Vimshottari seems to be an original system and Firdaria is a derived and consequently a later development.

Both Vimshottari and Firdaria systems are related to the planetary order Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, known as the Chaldean Order in the West. Put two triangles within a circle, one placed over the other inversely. Put Sun + Moon at the apex of first triangle, and then put Mercury and then Venus at other two vertices in a clockwise manner. Then, put Mars, Jupiter and Saturn at the vertices of second triangle in such a way that Mars of second triangle falls between SunMoon and Mercury of first triangle. You will get the sequence of the weekdays. This sequence is also wrongly ascribed to the Chaldeans, although Chaldeans knew it.

To put it otherwise, put the planets in weekday sequence around the circumference of a circle and read their names alternately, you will get the sequence of planets according to distances.

-VJ================================================================Vimshottari Timings for Planets of Mixed AttributesOften a planet is both good and bad, how to decide when we get which result?

Often a planet possesses both good and bad attributes. How we should decide when we get which result during the dashs of such a planet of mixed attributes ? For instance, if a student takes appears in an examination during the dash of such a planet, whether he/will get through or fail? Or will he hover at the passing point ?

For instance, if Jupiter is in moolatrikona in a particular horoscope , it is highly auspicious on account of that. But if it is lord of 3rd and 6th houses at the same time, it is highly malefic as well.

It is wrong to assume that these opposite attributes cancel each other. In rainfall analysis, I found that such planets cause excessive rainfall on account of being in moolatrikona, but cause destruction from rains and/or flooding due to their malefic nature.

I have worked for many years in rain prediction, and there I had faced tricky questions. What will be total amount of rainfall due to a planet which is good (eg, exalted) and bad (eg, in 12th house)? The answer I found, from analysis of past data of 136 years procured from IITM (Pune) is that net result will be nearly 5% of normal rainfall, if other planets do not influence that particular region (ie, have no aspect and no relation with rain's kraka). But places pierced (viddha) by malefic planets in Sarvatobhadra chakra in that region will be badly hit by excessive or scanty rainfall depending upon magnitude of aspect, and places pierced by benefics will be blessed with rains conducive to good harvest.

In individual horoscopes, similar situations, however, produce different problems. Many persons are confused about malefic and benefic planets. Jupiter as lord of 3rd and 6th houses is malefic, but if it is situated in mooltrikona, it is benefic as well. Now a question arises : when such a planet will give its good results, and when its malefic fruits will be reaped ?

Rule-I :

The answer is simple : during MD (mahdash) of Jupiter, one will get good results during AD (antardash) of Jupiter's own AD or ADs of friendly relatives, and bad results during ADs of enmical planets. This principle works down to prndash level. For instance, if such a mixed Jupiter is kraka of sukshma-dash, it will give give good results during prna-dash of its friends and bad results during prna-dash of its enemies.

For instance, a native topped school board exams during Jupiter's MD and Jupiter's AD (pratyantara and sukshma were of auspicious planets too). But the same native failed to get through the examinations just two years later during AD of Saturn, although Saturn was lord of 4th and 5th houses and was therefore auspicious for that native. The cause was mutual enmity and conjunction (yuti) relation between Jupiter and Saturn. Jupiter gave its good results during its own AD , but during Saturn's AD mainly the malefic results of Jupiter were manifest, benefic results of both Jupiter and Saturn lied dormant. It was the worst period in the life of that native. He could not leave his house for a long period due to illness, depression and bad relations with everyone, and failed in examinations.

But during Saturn's MD and Jupiter's AD, things were good for the same native, because Saturn, being an auspicious planet (kendresh plus trikonesh) gave its good results through its yuti relative jupiter, and suppressed the bad effects of malefic Jupiter due to mutual enmity. It was the best period in the life of same native and he excelled in whatever he attempted ! Thus, Jupiter's MD gave both best and worst results in the life of a single native.

It is a general principle, which works only when aspects of both planets (eg, planets causing MD and AD) are nearly equal upon the bhva we are analyzing. If any one of them has very strong influence in comparison to the other planet over that particular bhva, the stronger planet will break the above rule and give its own good or bad fruits in proportion of its strength.

Net result becomes more complex when influences of other planets are also considered, which we must do, because many influences are effective for whole life irrespective of dash. For instance, a person will not become long during MD of Saturn and dwarf during MD of Mercury.

Rule-II :

Now let us consider another problem. Suppose we are in a situation in which we an answer in binary language or yes or no. Eg., whether one will pass or fail in an examination, live or die during a critical surgery, etc. Mixed answers will not do under such circumstances. Such cases are rare when a patients neither lives nor dies, and relapses in a coma, or a student's result is washed away by floods in the board office.

In such situations, we have to evaluate the net auspiciousness or inauspiciousness of all the five kraka planets of five levels of Vimshottari, taking into account benefic and malefic properties of each of them. Long practice coupled with intuition developed by means of inner purity helps in this evaluation. During such an evaluation, an exalted planet in 12th mansion must be counted as a normal planet.

Only general outlines are presented here. Both of above laws work always work perfectly, but only when we follow the siddhnta (mathematics) of ancient sages. =============================================I said above "Both of above laws work always work perfectly, but only when we follow the siddhnta (mathematics) of ancient sages."

Prevalent methods of computing Vimshottari dashs contain two major sources of error in timing, one on account of Drikpakshiya Moon and another on account of wrong duration of 'year' used. Canonical texts strictly define Vimshottari's year to be of 360 days. Solar year is slightly over 365 days. Hence, Solar year must not be used for Vimshottari. Vimshottari is made from lunar asterism (nakshatra). Hence its year is lunar. Lunar year is of 360 lunar days (tithis). This is Vimshottari's year. Unfortunately, few astrologers use this correct year for Vimshottari computations. As a result, there is a 3.07% error in the length of Vimshottari year. If true moon is acurately computed, Vimshottari timing at birth will be correct, but will err by one year after 32.57 years, by two years after 65 years, and so on. As a result, 8% of mahdash timings and 70% of antar-dash timings will be wrong ! Very few persons will have accurate pratyantaras in their Vimshottari tables ! If birthtime true moon is also wrong, there will be greater error !

Among all the Vedic softwares I have hitherto seen, only two softwares give the option of selecting lunar year in computing Vimshottari, and few people take advantage of these options ! New theories of predictive astrology (Phalit Jyotisha) are being invented to account for the mismatch in predictions and reality, instead of trying the ancient method of sages.

Some practising astrologers knew this mismatch in timing, but did not know the reason. Dr Kmeshwar Updhyya, former editor of Vishwa Panchnga published by BHU (Benaras Hindu University), told me many years ago that all planets start giving results many months before their real Vimshottari timing begins. At that time, he was using solar year for Vimshottari reckoning. He is one of the most busy practising astrologers of Varanasi and has analysed a remendous number of horoscopes made with the help of all sorts of methods. Now he is convinced that lunar year should be used for Vimshottari reckoning, but fears that majority of astrologers will become his opponent due to professional reasons, hence keeps quiet but uses lunar year in his own computations. Same is the case with some other reputed astrologers.

But there is another, more serious, problem : use of Drikpakshiya Moon in Vedic Astrology, which results in considerable error in Vimshottari reckoning. But the magnitude of this error remains constant throughout the life of a native. For instance, if a planet starts giving its results 6 months before its computed time according to lunar year, all planets will show same error of 6 months throughout the life of that native. Hence, it will be easy to recognize that there is an error of 6 months, which can be remedied by using Saurpakshiya correctives according to ancient techniques. Magnitude of this error is different for different persons, sometimes running into years !

How long this wrong Vimshottari year will prevail is a matter of our collective choice. Test of the pudding lies in tasting it. Predictive (Phalita) astrology of Vedic sages is an exact science, provided we keep true to their Ganita. Grahas of Vedic Jyotisha are deities, according to all ancient authorities, and deities cannot be perceived sensorily. I have dared to write on this blasphemous topic in an age of materialism, in which material objects of sky are believed to be deities. Let me see what is the reaction ! -VJ======================================================================The Secret Magic of VimshottariIt is a universally accepted fact that any faultless astrological technique of exact timing of events either does not exist or lies hidden, although philistine astrologers (nakshatrasoochakas) may declare themselves to be omniscient.

All known methods in Vedic Astrology can be divided into two categories, as far as mathematics is concerned : (1) those dependent upon modern physical astronomy and (2) those relying on traditional methods. Both these categories have numerous variants. Major problem in the first camp is astrologically correct value of ayanmsha, and main problem in second camp is computational crudities of various types.

We assume that both these camps take for granted that in mathematics sidereal (nirayana) system is correct and in predictive astrology (phalita jyotisha) Brihat-Parshara-Hor-Shstra (BPHS) and ancient texts based on or akin to BPHS are to be relied upon, because that is the accepted meaning of Vedic Astrology or Jyotisha.

There cannot be mutually incompatible two correct techniques of timing, either both of them or at least one of them must be incorrect. As far as the first school based on physical astronomy is concerned, all possible values of ayanmsha have been experimented with during past one hundred years, without any conclusive outcome in the favour of any single value of ayanmsha. It proves that even after we get some perfect solution to the problem of ayanmsha, there must be other unrecognized errors which must be removed if we want any exact technique in timing of events. One such source of error is erroneous length of the Vimshottari year. Some software developers, like Sri Jyoti Star in the USA and Kundalee in India, have experimented with various types of Vimshottari years, without any conclusive result, because a third source of error was never noticed by any practitioner of Vedic Astrology among the computer using guys : hidden Saurpakshiya offsets in Drikpakshiya longitudes of planets. Most of the computer using astrologers might not have heard these esoteric terms, whiich are fundamental in the curriculum of Vedic Jyotisha taught in Sanskrit universities of India. These are ancient concepts, and Ketaki system had revived these concepts during 20th century. Kamlakara Bhatta was the most staunch proponent of this Saurpakshiya mathematics during recent centuries, but due to Western hegemony and faith in modern science this ancient system was never tried by any software developer.

Many reputed scholars of Sanskrit universities on India have concluded that unless this beejsamskrita (offset corrected) method of Suryasidhanta is adopted, foolproof timing of events will remain a distant dream. On 18 Oct 2005, after two days of discussions in a conference held at Sampoornanand Sanskrit University in Varanasi, an unanimous decision was taken by academic stalwarts from six states of India that all panchangas of India ought to be made according to Suryasidhanta and a committee headed by me (Vinay Jha) was formed to implement this unanimous decision, whose parties were Dr Nagendra Pandey (currently HOD of Jyotisha at Sampoornanand Sanskrit University in Varanasi), Dr Shukdeva Chaturvedi (former HOD of Lalbahadur Shastri Kendriya Vidyapeetha in Delhi), Dr Ramchandra Pandey (former HOD of Jyotisha of Benaras Hindu University, Varanasi), Dr Radhakanta Mishra (currently HOD of Jyotisha at KSD Sanskrit University in Bihar), etc. This unanimous decision was implemented and eight panchangas were started in many states of India and a horoscope making Kundalee software was also launched, based on the same beejsamskrita Suryasidhantic mathematics.

Mathematical discussion of this tricky affair is not advisable here. My aim here is merely to illustrate, with some examples, this traditional method of Vedic Ganita (mathematics), which was simply known as Siddhanta (theory) by all ancient astrologers of India. Without a sound Siddhnta, a sound predictive astrology is just impossible. There were 18 ancient Siddhntas, of which Surya Siddhanta was lauded as the best by Varah Mihir. The beauty and greatness of BPHS cannot be properly fathomed unless we use the Ganita (Surya Siddhanta) of those very ancient masters who created Phalita.

Some rules must be observed before we proceed. Rshi chart should be used only for determining friendships, aspects, strengths, debilities, etc of planets. Predictive work should be entirely based upon the Bhva-chalita kundali. Many astrologers use Rshi kundali for predictons because it saves time, and this habit has now become almost a rule ! Ascendant is defined as a point in ecliptic. The latter is elliptical. Hence, ascendant and consequent bhvas are all parts of this solar ellipse. Rshi kundali is circular and therefore all 12 parts are equal. But bhvachalita kundali is elliptical because its 12 bhvas are unequal.

Now we come to our main theme. Birthtime bhvachalita (D1) and navammsha (D9) kundalis and associated aspect charts are given in following two pictures. Let us explore the timing of marriage of a registered user (cf. http://www.mysticboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=58583&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) according to BPHS and Laghuparashari. All the rules and echniques used below are well known to all Vedic astrologers, but these rules work with perfection only if all the three mathematical offsets are taken into account. Following analysis is based on a software (Kundalee) in which all necessary corrections proposed by aforementioned academics have been taken into account.

Birthtime : 17:07:1983 at 19:34, Nellore (14:27 N, 80:02 E) Marriage time : 10:08:2006 at 11:04, Hyderabad

Saurpakshiya Vimshottari at the time of marriage : MahaDasha(MD) = Jup, AD = Sat, PD = Rahu,SD = Ven,PrD = Merc Let us consider birthtime Bhava-chalita (D1) and Navamasha(D9) charts. Following is the aspects (max. 60) on 7th house : Jup = 51 ; Ketu = 39 ; Sat = 38 ; Moon = 10 ; Rahu = 6 ; others = 0. Merury resides in 7th house.

Due to more aspect on 7th house than any other planet, marriage took place in Jupiter's MD.

But Ketu and Saturn have nearly equal aspect on 7th. Ketu has Yuti relation with Jupiter, but Saturn has a yuti relation with lord of the 7th house Moon.

Firstly, Jupiter's being lord of 3rd and 12th houses and being merely samagrihi in 11th house is far weaker than exalted Saturn in 9th house with lord of 7th Moon. Hence, yuti relation with Jupiter is not imparting enough weightage to Ketu in its contention with Saturn as a force to reckon with as regards 7th house.

Secondly, Jupiter is friendly to both Ketu and Saturn in bhvachalita, but in D9 Jupiter is friendly to Saturn but enmical (ttklika) to Ketu, the latter being further weakened by being placed in 12th house. It forced Ketu out of the race, and made Saturn factor of AD.

Moon in spite of being lord of 7th house had only 10' aspect and in D9 was debilitated in D9, hence it went out of the race. Mercury is combust (asta) with debilitated Sun, hence it was powerless. Jykraka Venus is lord of 8th house, resides in 6th and has no aspect on 7th. Hence it had no effect on marriage. In bhvachalita, all other planets are totally ineffective in this regard. In D9, exalted Saturn has yuti relation with Mercury and Rahu. Since Mercury is combust in bhvachalita, Rahu emerges as the most powerful contender for factor behind pratyantara dash when we consider the combined effect of bhvachalita and D9.

Among the remaining, we find Jykraka Venus as factor of SD and Mercury sitting in 7th as factor of Prndash, in spite of their weaknesses, because all other planets are totally ineffectve. Mercury is 10:34':35'' degrees away from Sun (after applying Saurpakshiya offset in longitudes according to ancient canons), and is therefore not totally combust. Venus is also not too bad, and therefore its property of Jykraka was not totally destroyed on account of residing in 8th and lacking aspect on 7th.

Careful comparison of all planets in D1and D9 with regard to their influences on 7th house should be made by readers to determine the five planets needed for Vimshottari timing. D1 is bhvachalita and not Rshi-chart, because BPHS explicitly uses the word Lagna for D1, and ancient mathematical canon (Suryasiddhnta) defines Lagna as in terms of elliptical ecliptic and not in terms of circular bha-vritta. If such precautions are taken, measure of error in determination of time of events will gradually reduce. In the chart of husband of this native, two planets are so powerful for the 7th house that they were repeated in Vimshottari sequence Ineffectiveness of other planets also contributed to this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------This topic is growing too big. Such problems should be solved by means of comparison of both types of softwares, popular ones, and Suryasiddhntic. It is not possible to wipe out Suryasiddhanta in spite of centuries of propaganda against it by Semitic invaders and their intellectual offsprings. Suryasiddhanta is not a text of physical astronomy, its Grahas are incarnations of gods. BPHS also holds same views. Physical planets have no power to control destinies of men and nations, and they cannot be propitiated either. If material planets are accepted to be factors in astrology, their forces must be material forces. But how can we compare the gigantic material forces of Sun and Jupiter with Mercury ? And what is the material force of Rahu or Ketu ? Injecting materialism in astrology is destroying it. Jyotisha, being Vedanga, is a part of Veda, and is a part of religion rather than of material science. Its criterion of truth is not heavenly position of material objects perceived by sense organs, but the reliability of Phalita (predictive branch of astrology). 2000 AD was the year of minimum amount of offset in longitudes between Drikpakshiya (physical) and Saurpakshiya (Suryasiddhntic) planets. Now, this offset has begun to increase, and will reach the value of 180 in 23000 AD. When this offset was considerable, no one talked of material objects. Observatories are things of Kaliyuga. Astrological Grahas are deities who control lives of creatures.

Reading such arguments, some people start crying wolf about obscurantism. But they forget that all great scientists like Newton, Neils Bohr, Einstein and Schredinger were believers in God, the last of them being a staunch supporter of Vedanta who got a Nobel Prize by proving through his Wave Mechanics that material things are mere perceptions and nothing exists in the universe excepting Waves (of Consciousness?) : this is what Badarayana and Shankaracharya taught! My chief concern here is to bring to notice some little known aspects of Vimshottari and of the mathematical aspects of astrology. The purpose of this topic is not to assert that Vimshottari is enough for timing of events. There are other techniques in Vedic Astrology. But Vimshottari is by far the most important of all, and its importance has reduced due to three factors already pointed out by me : wrong ayanamsha, wrong length of Vimshottari year, and wrong or no longitudinal offsets in planetary positions.

Test of the pudding lies in tasting it, not by merely discussing it ! Kundalee software is free for all. -VJ