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21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability ofMaterial Property Measurements
The importance of proper yield stress-strain curvesfor simulation results
G. H. Arfmann, M. TwicklerCPM GmbH, Herzogenrath
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Simulation applications- Geometry, Material flow- Stresses, Tool failure- Grain distribution
• Material data requirements to do a proper simulation- Complete set of data- Method of measurement- accurate measurement
• Methods to measure yield stress – strain curves• Problems of standardization
- Curves from different origin and the Influence on results• Conclusions
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong preformdesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong preformdesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong preformdesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong progressiondesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong progressiondesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong progressiondesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong progressiondesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong progressiondesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong progressiondesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong progressiondesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Diagnostic offailures duringprocess design
Failure of a punchWrong progressiondesign
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Hammer forging
Analysis of theTemperaturedistribution after 18blows
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Hammer forging
Analysis of theTemperaturedistribution after 18blows
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Prediction of grainsize distributionduring forging
Correct modeling of allboundary conditions:- Temperature- Machine- Material- ……..
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Prediction of grainsize distributionduring forging
Correct modeling of allboundary conditions:- Temperature- Machine- Material- ……..
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Prediction of grainsize distributionduring forging
Correct modeling of allboundary conditions:- Temperature- Machine- Material- ……..
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Prediction of grainsize distributionduring forging
Correct modeling of allboundary conditions:- Temperature- Machine- Material- ……..
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Prediction of grainsize distributionduring forging
Correct modeling of allboundary conditions:- Temperature- Machine- Material- ……..
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Prediction of grainsize distributionduring forging
Correct modeling of allboundary conditions:- Temperature- Machine- Material- ……..
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
• Prediction of grainsize distributionduring forging
Correct modeling of allboundary conditions:- Temperature- Machine- Material- ……..
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
To get a good simulation result we need
a good understanding of the process and the relevant models to be usedin simulation
the best available data to describe the physical behavior of the material
etc ..
The most important data are YS-Strain curves.
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain Curve datahas to be
- complete, covering the range of temperature,strain rate, strain etc. of the application- reliable, not depending where it is comingfrom- precise- ……
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain Curve
QualitySourceDocumentation
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySource (Type of Test)Documentation
Tension testCompression TestTorque Test
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySource (different locations)Documentation
Compression Testnon reliable data form different
sourcesBased on a study of NPL, UK
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Influence on geometry
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Influence on localdeformation
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Influence on materialflow
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Different sources
Source: BFI/VDEh
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Different sources
Source: DGM
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Different sources
Source: Umformtechnik, Lange
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Different sources
Source: VDI
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Different sources
Source: ASM Atlas of Stress-Strain Curves
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Different sources
Source: Hensel/Spittel
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Different sources have different approaches todo the testing, procession anddocumentation.
Results from different sources are different.
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
MaterialHistoryTest parameter
Data
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation (of Data)
YS – Strain curveCold
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation (of Data)
YS – Strain curveWarm
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation (of Data)
YS – Strain curve
Decomposition todescribe the curve by amath. Regressionanalysis
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation (of Data)
Most of the sources use mathematical modelsto describe the YS-Strain curves.
This is a manipulation which might end upnegative on the quality.
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation (of Data)
YS – Strain curveFailure caused by
mathematical description
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation of Data
Material data should be made available in it'smeasured quality (corrected because of failurescaused by the measurement method only)!
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain CurveQuality of dataSourceDocumentation
Material data should be investigated alongscientifically agreed best practice standards !These still have to be developed.
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress – Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Example of a good approach
Tooling inside a furnaceDrawing courtesy of CPM Materialdatenzentrum
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress – Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Example of a good approach
Servo-hydraulic press
Photo courtesy of Servotest
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress – Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Example of a good approach
Filtering of dataDrawing courtesy of CPM Materialdatenzentrum
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress – Strain CurveQualitySourceDocumentation
Example of a good approach
Storing the data
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
Stress Strain Curve Results
Quality Standards of best practice must bedeveloped!
Source Sources today use varying methodswith different quality
Documentation Beside other important things thedata should be provided in themeasured form without anymathematical regressions done.Such regressions etc should be done inthe application at the responsibility ofthe user
21. Mai 2004 (c) 2004 CPM GmbH,Herzogenrath,Germany
ICFG Workshop Simulation, Schanghai 2004
The variability of Material Property Measurements
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