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Yesterday, 12:41 PM meijin WatchGeeks Owner True WatchGeek Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,916 Real Name: Michael The questioning of Sellita After the presentation of this last Lupah Revolution with the Sellita SW-500 in it, it was kind of funny to hear (and see) that Sellita got several questions concerning the movement, the origins of the movement, the relationship between Sellita and Invicta and also questioning the fact that was presented concerning the information given out that Sellita actually built the timepiece as a part of our ongoing relationship with them. Most of the guys are the same ones that tried to create a "dust up" with Dubois Depraz a while back. Here's one of the questions that was sent: Quote: I understand that you recently sold SW 500 movements to a watch company and also cased the watches for them. It was also claimed you built the entire watch except the original exterior case. I have never heard of such a thing by Sellita. Is this a fact or a mis-statement or mis- understanding by the customer. Here is the response sent from someone in senior management for their operations team: Quote: Thank you for your inquiry we recieved yesterday. Yes, it is correct, that we did assemble / cased-in the entire watch. It was really kind of funny that the question above actually came in from a "fishy" guy that started some of the hater sites that are out there on the Internet. I am going to assume that he is not going to post this response on his site. Anyway, it just goes to show the strong relationships that Invicta has within the watch and movement community the world over. In the case of Sellita, that relationship will be further proven in the future with the Sellita SW-300 and SW-400 (but more to come on that later! LOL!). And also companies like Dubois Depraz, Ronda and many others. Anyway, I thought some of you might find this a little funny. Especially those that have had a bit more interaction with those of a "fishy" nature. __________________ Michael

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The questioning of Sellita

After the presentation of this last Lupah Revolution with the Sellita SW-500 in it, it was kind of

funny to hear (and see) that Sellita got several questions concerning the movement, the origins of

the movement, the relationship between Sellita and Invicta and also questioning the fact that was

presented concerning the information given out that Sellita actually built the timepiece as a part

of our ongoing relationship with them. Most of the guys are the same ones that tried to create a

"dust up" with Dubois Depraz a while back. Here's one of the questions that was sent:

Quote:

I understand that you recently sold SW 500 movements to a watch company and also cased the

watches for them. It was also claimed you built the entire watch except the original exterior

case.

I have never heard of such a thing by Sellita. Is this a fact or a mis-statement or mis-

understanding by the customer.

Here is the response sent from someone in senior management for their operations team:

Quote:

Thank you for your inquiry we recieved yesterday. Yes, it is correct, that we did assemble /

cased-in the entire watch.

It was really kind of funny that the question above actually came in from a "fishy" guy that

started some of the hater sites that are out there on the Internet. I am going to assume that he is

not going to post this response on his site.

Anyway, it just goes to show the strong relationships that Invicta has within the watch and

movement community the world over. In the case of Sellita, that relationship will be further

proven in the future with the Sellita SW-300 and SW-400 (but more to come on that later!

LOL!). And also companies like Dubois Depraz, Ronda and many others.

Anyway, I thought some of you might find this a little funny. Especially those that have had a bit

more interaction with those of a "fishy" nature.

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The same people just keep trying to cause trouble for Invicta and they should just sit back and enjoy the product they put out at GREAT prices. JMHO

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Thankx Michael. Eyal did say the facts as you explained and I thought that this is a good thing

and shows a strong partnership.

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I did watch the show in which Eyal did say that Sellita actually assembled the/put the Lupah

case together. I guess I took him at face value for his statements. Why wouldn't I? I do think

sometimes with the haters as they are called that they are just that and nothing more!!!

I don't even want to acknowledge them or give them credence even if negative or disparaging in

nature. Great watching everyone (Vendors) come out and talk about their respective products.

Great job by all!!!!!

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Great post MD!

I guess that's, as Scott Hall used to say, "One more for the Good Guys!"

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I hadn't heard this although it doesn't come as a surprise that some would question the veracity

of statements made by representatives of both Invicta and ShopNBC on this.

Just because you have never heard of a company doing a certain thing doesn't mean they don't

do it - at least on occasion.

Thanks for the information, Mike!

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Questioning the unknown is natural and human nature. Questioning what someone says is where

it crosses the line IMO.

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Michael,

I think this kind of thing has made me make up my mind.

I'm Buying the Lupah Today !

With trouble starting emails like that, it's just tells me that "other" companies and people Fear a

watch with this level of refinement for this price.

Amazing someone would take the time to try to "find" issues where there are none...

Shameful indeed.

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Thanks for that Mike, I needed a good laugh today.

Some "Fishy guy"... LMFAO

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The same people just keep trying to cause trouble for Invicta and they should just sit back and enjoy the product they put out at GREAT prices. JMHO

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Great post Micheal. Thanks.

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Not that you need it, but it always nice to be vindicated. As long as Inviocta keeps doing what it

been doing, they'll always have the last laugh.

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GOOD POINT MICHAEL. I MAKE IT A POINT TO LISTEN VERY CAREFULL TO ALL

THE INFO GIVEN AT A WATCH PRESENTATION. I HEARD ALL THAT EYAL

SAID,AND THAT MADE ME WANT THE WATCH EVEN MORE. IT IS NOW ON THE

WAY. I ALSO HAVE THE OTHER WATCH MENTIONED WI TH THE D/D

MOVEMENT AND LOVE IT! I HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS AT ALL! KEEP UP

THE GOOD WORK. THERE IS TOO MUCH BASHING BEING DONE ON W/G. LETS

ALL ENJOY THE HOBBY! LIFE IS TOO SHORT!!!!

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Hahahaha! Howd you come about the question and response? That is great though. Those

clowns always trying to poke invicta and "discover" a lie. Glad to hear the result Michael.

Thanks

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I've heard/seen /experieced lots about invicta, both pro and con, and I didn't even think twice

about Eyal's comment about Sellita casing the Lupah;

it made perfect sense to me; first productrun of a movement, first production run of the case for

it ot just made sense for them to do the work and work out the fitment bugs like the hand height.

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I watched the presentation by Eyal and thought wow what a great selling feature. I had no doubt

what Eyal said was true, especially after being the first manufacturer to sell a watch with this

movement. I hope this will shut up the detractors once and for all (wishfull thinking on my part).

Bring on Basel!

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Cant wait to get my Lupah Revo , and cant wait to see another piece with the dubois depraz.

Thanks for making these Beautys affordable.

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I feel Eyal realizes that we listen to what is claimed and doesnt say something that gets negative

feedback after what happened with the DD movement and Sandstone. I have no reason what so

ever to not believe Eyal,Jim and Micheal. All I know is the 70 something watches i've purchased

in the last yr that NONE of them have had any problems and i'm very happy with them.

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I, too, caught Eyal's comments about this Lupah being assembled by Sellita. Had no reason to

doubt it. Exciting news actually. As has been mentioned, it speaks volumes of Invicta's

relationship with this watch movement company.

One can liken "haters" to "bullies"

"bullies" = insecure about themselves = spew "fightin' words" to get a reaction while really just

trying to draw attention to themselves. As if this somehow makes them feel better about some

kind of perceived personal shortcoming they may be embarrassed or ashamed of. Thought this

behavior was left back in the playground.

Not talking about bringing up a watch-related topic (or any other topic) for discussion in an

appropiate venue. Rather those that just spew for the sake of spewing. Just my .02...

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Thanks for the info Mike.

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Good to know Mike.....thanks.

I think the more you acknowledge your detractors the more credence you give them.

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you no what i dont under stand if you dont like something than dont buy it period end of story.

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Thanks for this post.

I am far cry from being Invicta hater, but I will always voice my opinion, and sometimes my

opinion is different than yours.

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That being said, I must underline something :

1. Never had one single problem with Sellita movements in my Invicta's.

2. NEVER had one single problem with my Invicta with Duboiz Depraz. This is kind of funny,

because I read all kinds of scary stories about this watch. Not only that I never sent back this

watch for the service, but this watch keeps fantastic time for me and it's one of my favorites.

Too bad I am not in diamonds otherwise I would buy that Lupah with SW500.

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With many of the "mis-statements" and "mis-quotes" that are slung around, it is nice to finally

see the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!!! Thanks for bringing this to everyone's

attention Mike.

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yea, to bad the know it alls dont have a life.

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Mike thanks for the info/clarifiaction.

It makes sense to me Sellita would want to case the first group of watches to use the SW-500

movenment. This way they can give instructions and tips on casing to Invicta and the other

watch companies who will use that movement in the future.

Why someone would want to make positive information into a negative is beyond me.

HMM maybe salmon or flounder for dinner. No when it smells it's bad.

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Interesting

I am sorry I missed the show.

Good to see the new concepts being done by Invicta and Selitta.

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I love any and all POSITIVE Invicta Threads...I can't even begin to tell you how tired I am of

the negative/hater sites and threads etc...It's become so unbelievably irritating for me! Thank you

Michael for posting this thread!

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Quote:

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Questioning the unknown is natural and human nature. Questioning what someone says is

where it crosses the line IMO.

So no one should ever question what they are told?

I disagree completely. I feel that people have the right to question people, especially when

considering an expensive purchase. In fact, I would go as far as state that it is their DUTY as a

knowledgeable consumer to question what someone is telling them. e.g.-only a sucker would go

to a shady used car dealership and believe everything they are told by the salesman....(not

comparing Invicta to that, just an separate example).

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It is funny Michael, nothing better to do than try and discredit Invicta, Eyal, Jill and you. You

ever feel you need a bodyguard, I'd do it for free!

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I love it Mike....LOL

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would love to have been there when the "hater" read that response....must have been classic

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would love to have been there when the "hater" read that response....must have been classic

That must have been very disappointing indeed...

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not suprizing that these guys are trying to stir something up,like you said they won't post the

responce though,like i said before,i'm not a huge fan of the lupa,but definetly would grab this

one if i could

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Great 411 for all of us . Thanks for taking the time to share !!!

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I know that this kind of thing has to be tiring and frustrating. I also know that you, Jim, Eyal and

the others are all big boys and can handle it, but please know that there are some of us out here

that apprecitate, support and believe in you. Please keep up the great work and don't get

discouraged.

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Michael don't be so coy(sic) about who this could be. Must've spoiled his whole week of

planned carping. Thanks for the good post, must be one angry fish in that pond.

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Mike there is always someone trying discredit Invicta.... We all know that Invicta makes a great

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Thanks for the information Mike!!! As one who happens to belong to other

forums....I have seen the "fishy guys" posts now and then. To me....it just

seems to be a personal thing that some people have against Invicta and

the rest of you guys. Why????? I don't know.

I have been ill for over a year now...and somehow trying to stir up

problems for a watch company and Shopnbc seems to be a waste of what

precious time we all have. I've had a heart attack, 2 major blood clots in

my legs, and survived a bout with cancer, in the last 3 years...any of which

could have ended my life. I also have found out in this time that I had

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diabeties that was undiagnosed for nearly 15 years...and now have

perpherial neuropathy in my legs.

I am just happy to wake up each morning, kiss my wife and let my dogs

outside. I also enjoy myself on here and another nice watch forum. The

majority of my collection is filled with Invicta's...and I happen to enjoy

each and every one of them...and since I am homebound...I sometimes

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So no one should ever question what they are told?

I disagree completely. I feel that people have the right to question people, especially when

considering an expensive purchase. In fact, I would go as far as state that it is their DUTY as

a knowledgeable consumer to question what someone is telling them. e.g.-only a sucker would

go to a shady used car dealership and believe everything they are told by the salesman....(not

comparing Invicta to that, just an separate example).

I would agree with you, question everything if it involves your hard earned money

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It is funny Michael, nothing better to do than try and discredit Invicta, Eyal, Jill and you. You

ever feel you need a bodyguard, I'd do it for free!

Guessing with his giant stature and martial arts background he has it covered! Hahaha

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Originally Posted by Mike_NavyNuke

So no one should ever question what they are told?

I disagree completely. I feel that people have the right to question people, especially when

considering an expensive purchase. In fact, I would go as far as state that it is their DUTY as

a knowledgeable consumer to question what someone is telling them. e.g.-only a sucker would

go to a shady used car dealership and believe everything they are told by the salesman....(not

comparing Invicta to that, just an separate example).

There is a big difference between asking a question and trying to go out of your way to destroy a company and certain peoples jobs. I would suggest Mike Navynuke if you are going to take a stand that you do it for the right reasons and the right people -This is a bad choice.

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All I can say is I haven't been around the hobby long enough to understand the "fish" inuendos,

but I know I love the watch and wish I could get one right now. As for the hater, he must be

more Crappy than Salmon.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_NavyNuke

So no one should ever question what they are told?

I disagree completely. I feel that people have the right to question people, especially when

considering an expensive purchase. In fact, I would go as far as state that it is their DUTY as

a knowledgeable consumer to question what someone is telling them. e.g.-only a sucker would

go to a shady used car dealership and believe everything they are told by the salesman....(not

comparing Invicta to that, just an separate example).

No Mike, I have never, EVER said that folks cannot or should not question whatever they'd like.

Hell, if anyone had a question in regards to the topic at hand, I would have been more than

happy to have sent them the appropriate contact information for the folks at Sellita that could

verify what Eyal and I both had to say about the movement and build of the Lupah.

The particular person in question is someone many of us are familiar with. He has created a

hater site where he attacks me, Jim and Eyal personally. He is one of the main people that

started all of the "big deal" behind Invicta's relationship with Dubois Depraz. When it was

announced (by DD no less) that there was, in fact, an ongoing relationship with them, he didn't

bother to report that to his minions. He threatens lawsuits of all types and has been doing so for

a couple of years. Still waiting on that one...especially when we found a post of his asking for

free legal advice on a legal forum. I guess his high priced shark of an attorney had the day off

that day. He has assured his minions that the FBI was going to be kicking in the doors of our

home to arrest the owners of Watchgeeks. Still waiting on that one to happen too. So, when a

complete and total douche bag like this "fishy guy" gets a little comeuppance, I'll throw it out

there. But, don't read more into it than what is there, eh?

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Yesterday, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda03Bear

Guessing with his giant stature and martial arts background he has it covered! Hahaha

Adam, you know I like to rough people up!

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Originally Posted by meijin

No Mike, I have never, EVER said that folks cannot or should not question whatever they'd

like. Hell, if anyone had a question in regards to the topic at hand, I would have been more

than happy to have sent them the appropriate contact information for the folks at Sellita that

could verify what Eyal and I both had to say about the movement and build of the Lupah.

The particular person in question is someone many of us are familiar with. He has created a

hater site where he attacks me, Jim and Eyal personally. He is one of the main people that

started all of the "big deal" behind Invicta's relationship with Dubois Depraz. When it was

announced (by DD no less) that there was, in fact, an ongoing relationship with them, he

didn't bother to report that to his minions. He threatens lawsuits of all types and has been

doing so for a couple of years. Still waiting on that one...especially when we found a post of

his asking for free legal advice on a legal forum. I guess his high priced shark of an attorney

had the day off that day. He has assured his minions that the FBI was going to be kicking in

the doors of our home to arrest the owners of Watchgeeks. Still waiting on that one to happen

too. So, when a complete and total douche bag like this "fishy guy" gets a little comeuppance,

I'll throw it out there. But, don't read more into it than what is there, eh?

I don't like giving credence or anything to even acknowledge this type of behavior so too bad

about about all this hater stuff. If the fish is bad then throw it out!

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It is funny Michael, nothing better to do than try and discredit Invicta, Eyal, Jill and you. You

ever feel you need a bodyguard, I'd do it for free!

Thanks for the offer, but I don't think it is needed. There keyboard commandos and punks don't

have the cojones to step out of the shadows of the internet to address anyone face to face.

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Bottom line.......if you don't like a company's product, then don't buy it. No sense in going on a

crusade trying to demean a company. Better yet...if you can do better, then start your own

company. Invicta is successful for one reason, people like the product. When Invicta stops

meeting customer's expectations then it will cease to exist. For now..."What Time Is It?"

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Thanks for the post in providing the confirming information.

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Originally Posted by meijin

Thanks for the offer, but I don't think it is needed. There keyboard commandos and punks don't

have the cojones to step out of the shadows of the internet to address anyone face to face.

I know, didn't mean you couldn't handle yourself, I'm sure you can just fine!

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Adam, you know I like to rough people up!

Get'em Fitty!

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Yesterday, 06:53 PM

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Quote:

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No Mike, I have never, EVER said that folks cannot or should not question whatever they'd

like. Hell, if anyone had a question in regards to the topic at hand, I would have been more

than happy to have sent them the appropriate contact information for the folks at Sellita that

could verify what Eyal and I both had to say about the movement and build of the Lupah.

The particular person in question is someone many of us are familiar with. He has created a

hater site where he attacks me, Jim and Eyal personally. He is one of the main people that

started all of the "big deal" behind Invicta's relationship with Dubois Depraz. When it was

announced (by DD no less) that there was, in fact, an ongoing relationship with them, he

didn't bother to report that to his minions. He threatens lawsuits of all types and has been

doing so for a couple of years. Still waiting on that one...especially when we found a post of

his asking for free legal advice on a legal forum. I guess his high priced shark of an attorney

had the day off that day. He has assured his minions that the FBI was going to be kicking in

the doors of our home to arrest the owners of Watchgeeks. Still waiting on that one to happen

too. So, when a complete and total douche bag like this "fishy guy" gets a little comeuppance,

I'll throw it out there. But, don't read more into it than what is there, eh?

As the saying goes... its not what you do.. it's how you do it. some of us asked questions about

the dd and we got our answers. That( fishy) Just don't like invicta or it's soldier's!

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Yesterday, 07:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief68

The same people just keep trying to cause trouble for Invicta and they should just sit back and enjoy the product they put out at GREAT prices. JMHO

+1-I for one totally agree,leave well enough alone and enjoy the great deals and killer watches

that invicta brings to us!If it was'nt for Invicta, Android and sturhling we would be forced to

have to pay ridiculous price points that alot of us would not be able to afford to do what we have

come to love. Thank You Michael for sharing this w/us and we appreciate all that you and Jim

do here for us!Gunsmith"NICK"

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thanks micheal

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Personally Mike, I believe that they are just spreading , because of the jealousy factor that

invicta has excellent business relations with their suppliers. Or, it could be that they have been

(and will be) buying similar watches at a much higher price, and need a group ! Anyway,

if you guys continue making great watches at a reasonable price, the fisherman will continue to

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follow. We will deal with it as deemed necessary.

Now, about the SW400???

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Yesterday, 07:55 PM

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I wish I knew what the other site was. I have a morbid curiosity I guess, LOL. Someone PM me.

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#59

Yesterday, 08:07 PM

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Just went there and saw all I wanted to see. Ridiculous. Now I feel like I need to give my

computer a shower to wash off all the HATE!

But it did look like they had a couple hundred "posters". Wow. Very impressive, LOL

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#60

Yesterday, 08:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckBuckner

Just went there and saw all I wanted to see. Ridiculous. Now I feel like I need to give my

computer a shower to wash off all the HATE!

LOL! Well at least it fed your curiosity...

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Yesterday, 08:22 PM

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Thanks Mike

Some people have nothing better to do with their time than to

attack a watch company like Invicta Watch Group. It's almost

as if they are on some kind of fishing expedition to try to catch

Invicta in lie. I would say to them, 'What difference does it

make whether Invicta and Sellita are in a partnership or not,

or whether Sellita assembled the entire watch from start to

finish.'

Invicta was smart to establish solid footing with a movement

manufacturer like Sellita, due to the ever increasing

constraints placed by ETA. I am excited to see what Sellita

and Invicta will develop in the future with even more complex

movements.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meijin

No Mike, I have never, EVER said that folks cannot or should not question whatever they'd

like. Hell, if anyone had a question in regards to the topic at hand, I would have been more

than happy to have sent them the appropriate contact information for the folks at Sellita that

could verify what Eyal and I both had to say about the movement and build of the Lupah.

The particular person in question is someone many of us are familiar with. He has created a

hater site where he attacks me, Jim and Eyal personally. He is one of the main people that

started all of the "big deal" behind Invicta's relationship with Dubois Depraz. When it was

announced (by DD no less) that there was, in fact, an ongoing relationship with them, he

didn't bother to report that to his minions. He threatens lawsuits of all types and has been

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doing so for a couple of years. Still waiting on that one...especially when we found a post of

his asking for free legal advice on a legal forum. I guess his high priced shark of an attorney

had the day off that day. He has assured his minions that the FBI was going to be kicking in

the doors of our home to arrest the owners of Watchgeeks. Still waiting on that one to happen

too. So, when a complete and total douche bag like this "fishy guy" gets a little comeuppance,

I'll throw it out there. But, don't read more into it than what is there, eh?

YES, WELL-SAID MIKE!!! You kill me man!!!

I’ve said it before, but under the circumstances it bears repeating. Just imagine what a lowbrow, pathetic loser this "Fishy Guy" must be - not to

mention the sycophant yes-“men" who lap up the insipid nonsense that he spews incessantly day after day on that silly little site. What a

monumentally stupid, ridiculous way to spend ones time and energy – sitting around watching home shopping TV programming – not because you

like or are interested in purchasing the products offered for sale, but rather to play out some sort of bizarre, utterly pointless, paranoid delusional

gotcha fantasy. What a waste of an existence. We get it already:

“Fishy Guy” doesn’t like Invicta and those who promote or support the brand. Guess what “Fishy Guy” … we don’t care, so just go away. IMHO,

“Fishy Guy” and those who share his sick, twisted moronic views could not possibly slither back under the rocks from whence they came and get on

with the evidently otherwise vapid, bitter lives they lead fast enough to suit me.

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Yesterday, 08:52 PM

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I myself see this as a watch snob issue. I have taken watches to a high end jeweler in town to be

resized on a few occasions before I got the watch kit. This jeweler sold several well known

brands but did not have a watch "guy". The sales people and the person who resized them

thought my Invictas were as nice as the brands they sold and complimentary of the quality of

them. I had the occasion to take an Invicta to a watch repair shop here in town and the guy had

multiple deregatory comments of that "tv brand". When I asked his specific problems with the

watch he simply could not find one. His only comment was, "Its sold on tv.". He had no

comment when I asked about if any of the brands that he sold being swiss made had a five year

warranty, if he could offer something comparable in quality for a similar price.

It comes down to some snob, who feels inadequate because he bought an expensive watch that is

not as good as a much cheaper priced Invicta. As far as listening to Eyal on tv and then emailing

Selita to verify the truth that is just pitiful. For someone to sit and watch the show to take in the

presentation and memorize and stew over it and then spend even more time send the email, this

guy must have a lot of extra time on his hands to waste on a watch brand that he doesn't like.

Myself if I didn't like it I wouldn't even turn the tv on.

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I heard Eyal speak about the relationship with Selita and their involvement with this first issue

of the SW500. I thought it was a great selling point and spoke a lot about both Invicta and Selita.

Thank you for the follow up information Michael. Keep up the GREAT work!

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Some People Just Can't Enjoy Life Without Causing Problems ... They Just Can't Understand

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Mike,

Thanks for telling the "true story"....

Appreciate all you do and enjoy your TV face time.

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Yesterday, 10:12 PM

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As has been noted, "Stupid is as stupid does."

Good work Invicta, et. al. __________________

Remember OUR defenders of peace.

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Like It!

Luv It!!

Selitta & Invicta is a Fantastic partnership!!!

Thanks Mike!

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Yesterday, 10:24 PM

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Perfection

No thing or anyone is perfect but we all strive to be.INVICTA comes close to that ideal in many

of its models and concepts and will retain my interest as long as they commit to striving for

perfection and building watches for every man,woman and price point.

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So what is ole fishey doing watching Eyal anyway. If he truly doesn't like him or the product,

why is he spending his time learning everything he can about it? Is it just to spew hatred? He

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needs something better to do now doesn't he!

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They are some people in the world that are full of hate. There is no rhyme nor reason for their

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Quote:

I am definitely saddened by the tone this thread has taken, especially by you here, Michael

Davis. This has gone way, WAY over the line.

Sorry that you feel that way.

Quote:

All this talk of "bodyguards" and "punks" and implied physicality has no place in a civilized

forum about anything. This is the level of discourse we need to discuss watches? Because

Invicta finally got something perfectly right, for once? That's an awful lot of hubris and chest-

thumping considering the recent track record, isn't it?

First of all, you really ought to go back and read this entire a thread again as you seem to be

seeing what you want to see and not what was actually written here. There was no implied

physicality. However, if you went back to the haters that are referenced here, they are just the

ones that were talking about crashing the National Get Together back in June and instituting

violence. No one here in this thread said that they were going to seek them out to do anything.

As to my use of the word "punk", that is exactly what they are. Sorry if you don't like the use of

the term.

And as to your comment about "Invicta finally got something right", I am just going to ignore.

We still produce and sell a couple of million watches a year and are still the top vendor at

SNBC. I think I will allow the customers of that venue speak to the accuracy of that comment.

Quote:

And Mike, where were you when the poop hit the fan over the Speedway watches last year?

There was an awful lot of silence coming from some quarters, particularly yours.

Yep. Because when the guy who signs my paycheck says to be quiet that he is working on a

joint statement between Invicta And Dubois Depraz, then that is exactly what I do. Whether you

personally happen to like it or not.

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So don't give me this "we were working with D/D" stuff, because no one on earth believes it -

particularly after the D/D rep publicity stated he had no earthly idea his movements were in

Invicta watches in the first place. Oh, I'm sorry - I wouldn't want to bring up facts in the face

of the nice victory party that's going on over the new Lupah.

OK, let's talk about the facts. You only discuss one small portion of that situation. You

completely leave out the fact that after the person in the US spoke to the correct people within

his own company that he signed onto a public statement here that indicated, in fact, that the

Dubois Depraz modules we used were legitimate and gotten from them and that we did, indeed

have a business relationship with them. If you want to quote the "facts", then at least please take

the time to cite ALL of the facts. Not just a part of them to try and make your point. You are like

the guy in a religious argument who quotes half of a Bible verse to try and make your point.

The very same thing happened when I made comments about Armand Nicolet making watches

for other companies a few months back. Folks contacted them and said things that were not true

and then tried to publish the comments from Armand Nicolet. Once I contacted them directly

and told them what was actually said, they agreed that I was correct and that these other people

were trying to stir up trouble via half comments and lies that did not accurately represent what I

had actually said.

I could, quite honestly, care less what you think about our business relationship with Dubois

Depraz. When the next piece comes out utilizing their customized movement, then you will have

some crow to eat.

Quote:

All I know is, if this is the tone that the mods and reps of this website are taking because a new

product is living up to the minimum level of expectations, I want no part of it.

Minimum level of expectations? LOL! Yeah...with all of the watch companies in the world,

Invicta gets the very first of the movements. That has got to really burn people like you, eh?

Want no part of it? Then don't let the proverbial door hit you in the butt on your way out!

Quote:

I realize I probably just ushered in my own demise here, but so be it. I won't be part of any

"club" that can't take the slightest bit of scrutiny. If members here want to sit in a circle and

sing "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing," have fun.

Ushered in your own demise? Don't know about that. I think what you have done is made it

readily apparent to alot of folks here that you are willing to spout off half truths to issue your

own insults and falsehoods. And that is fine by me. If you don't wish to be a member here, we

can certainly take care of that for you. Hell, I can make some recommendations of forums where

you would fit in just fine since you like to play fast and loose with the actual facts.

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Today, 06:02 AM

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i never questioned it,The price was just too much for me right now,plus not a fan of the

lupahs.Still paying off the last 6 watches I bought.I did buy one.but,not the lupah.. thanks for the

post mike.

Dave

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Today, 06:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hootchlid

i never questioned it,The price was just too much for me right now,plus not a fan of the

lupahs.Still paying off the last 6 watches I bought.I did buy one.but,not the lupah.. thanks for

the post mike.

Dave

Not everyone can or will like everything Dave...we understand that. There will be more watches

coming out with that movement, so hopefully one will catch your eye later. Enjoy the other 6

that you got though, sounds like a good haul!

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This thread is going to have more posts than a Multi Sunday Run!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meijin

Not everyone can or will like everything Dave...we understand that. There will be more

watches coming out with that movement, so hopefully one will catch your eye later. Enjoy the

other 6 that you got though, sounds like a good haul!

yeah i own a total of 10 invictas,2 xo,5 S.O.'s,2 Eco Drives,1 Seiko,1 JL and a Android,and just

bought a Vostok Europe.

I have never had a issue with a Invicta watch.I plan on many many more Invictas.Although,I am

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leaning towards buying more automatic movements,so that kinda limits my choices but,Invicta

offers alot of them so,I am sure,It will all be good

Some people just like to whine and *****.IF they feel that way then they shouldnt be

here.Legimate concerns are one thing,but,hell,if they are so dissatisfied,then return the

watch,and buy a different brand and leave us alone.No one is holding a gun to your head to buy

a Invicta.

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Nothing wrong with having an opinion but if those opinions are based on inaccuracies or for just

the sake of hating it then by all means Mike has the right to set the record straight.

Thank you Mike, it is really great to be a member here where everyone is welcome as long as

you aren't here to Troll up the forum with your hate.

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You ever feel you need a bodyguard, I'd do it for free!

Mike's size alone I imagine would be intimidating enough, then throw in his martial arts

hobby.... nuff said

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Again, Michael, part of why I'm glad to be on this site...always good to get information from a

reputable source.

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No Mike, I have never, EVER said that folks cannot or should not question whatever they'd

like. Hell, if anyone had a question in regards to the topic at hand, I would have been more

than happy to have sent them the appropriate contact information for the folks at Sellita that

could verify what Eyal and I both had to say about the movement and build of the Lupah.

The particular person in question is someone many of us are familiar with. He has created a

hater site where he attacks me, Jim and Eyal personally. He is one of the main people that

started all of the "big deal" behind Invicta's relationship with Dubois Depraz. When it was

announced (by DD no less) that there was, in fact, an ongoing relationship with them, he

didn't bother to report that to his minions. He threatens lawsuits of all types and has been

doing so for a couple of years. Still waiting on that one...especially when we found a post of

his asking for free legal advice on a legal forum. I guess his high priced shark of an attorney

had the day off that day. He has assured his minions that the FBI was going to be kicking in

the doors of our home to arrest the owners of Watchgeeks. Still waiting on that one to happen

too. So, when a complete and total douche bag like this "fishy guy" gets a little comeuppance,

I'll throw it out there. But, don't read more into it than what is there, eh?

I guess I haven't been paying as much attention as I thought here. I knew that there were "haters"

and extremely negative posters and all but I had no idea it was rising to that level. I thought they

just didn't like Invicta. I really had no idea that they were personally attacking and threatening

you and others. Sorry to hear that, Michael. I've always found you to be a very straight up and

likeable guy. You've helped me personally with PMs in the past on watch questions, too. In fact,

out of all the watch celebreties that I've seen here and on SNBC, you would be the one I feel is

the most honest and straightforward of all. I hope you can think of these "fish" as being dead in

the water and not give them any more of your time. The best way to really get even with

someone is to live well.

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Originally Posted by NG111

I guess I haven't been paying as much attention as I thought here. I knew that there were

"haters" and extremely negative posters and all but I had no idea it was rising to that level. I

thought they just didn't like Invicta. I really had no idea that they were personally attacking

and threatening you and others. Sorry to hear that, Michael. I've always found you to be a

very straight up and likeable guy. You've helped me personally with PMs in the past on watch

questions, too. In fact, out of all the watch celebreties that I've seen here and on SNBC, you

would be the one I feel is the most honest and straightforward of all. I hope you can think of

these "fish" as being dead in the water and not give them any more of your time. The best way

to really get even with someone is to live well.

Fish Boy doesnt hate just Invicta, Micheal Davis, Jim Skelton hell the man even hates me. In

fact he said.......I am pretty sure it went like this " I am going to destroy your life"! This was

about 6 months ago, but somehow even in his home state he cant get that done. He is a blow

hard thats all, a spiteful little man that rode the small bus and was picked on as a kid.

I actually feel sorry for the man really, not for what he has gone through in life but the fact there

is no inner peace. Can you imagine spending your whole life trying to get at others because you

own life sux that bad. Imagine what could be done with that energy, he probably wouldnt live in

a shack and be on the edge of financial failure if he actually worked that hard on his personal

problems.

Ok I lied I dont feel bad for this guy he truly is a waste of Oxygen!

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Michael,

Thanks for the tip. Lets face it, there is a certain percentage. I, for one, could care less who puts

the movement in the case as long as Invicta will stand behind it for 5 years. I would love to have

an SW 500 but I am just not into the Lupah. Hopefully, you will bring out the 500 in other

models down the road.

Rich

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They and all that belong to that dirtbag site need to move on and get a life. Its not about watches

its about hate. Obviously their leader lives in the past and needs to move on with his miserable

life.I wish Invicta would sic their legal staff on those haters and see what happens to them then.

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I never let anything people like the "fishy" person say, affect my decision to purchase anything.

If you are a savvy shopper, you can assess a products suitability to your own situation.

The shop is a retail store and as such presents what they sell in the best possible light. There is

often a lot of passion in the presentations but I firmly believe that there is never an intent to

misrepresent a product with false statements.

Jim, Michael, Eyal, Tim etc. should not be criticized for doing their jobs so very well. I spent a

good deal of my professional life in retail. It would have been a pleasure to have Jim or Michael

on my staff. As for Eyal, I would work for him in a heartbeat!

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REMOVED BY MODERATOR Because it had too many unbelievable statements in it that

were FALSE.

Seriously dude. Did you not read the entire thread. When by the way has someone here not been

able to raise a LEGITIMATE complaint about something. Don't care about your post count, I

know you around here. Usually you show respect. Here you talk about a community pool, which

you decided was time to now take a leak in. Usher yourself to a time-out and look at why you

are here, and has your opinion ever really been stifled. My guess is no. I know from your 2

grand plus posts that you are not a Invicta fan which is your right , but you have to ask yourself

then Why Am I Here? This site is somewhere where people who love Invicta are allowed to

praise and complain pretty freely, but non substantiative B.S. gets it's real day in court. I

personally from your usual threads like your style, but here you couldn't have missed the train

by more then a expired token and a bad excuse.

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The Lupah Revo. will set nent to my "repaired" Dubois Depraz. Both watchs will be much to

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talk about, and well liked.

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I love Invicta's products; my only beef is with their back-end stuff like repair time, and getting it

right the first time, and various derivative issues related to that.

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Originally Posted by erictrumpet

This thread is not about the SW500, nor Invicta watches. It's about stooping down to WL's

level and throwing insults from the safety of our own forum. That's what they do. We should be

better than that.

Eric.

This thread was not intended to be about the SW 500.And I think you might have a little

different position on this issue,and not be so willing to offer up your other cheek if you were the

one under constant attack like the attacks Michael and Invicta are experiencing.

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Quote:

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This thread was not intended to be about the SW 500.And I think you might have a little

different position on this issue,and not be so willing to offer up your other cheek if you were

the one under constant attack like the attacks Michael and Invicta are experiencing.

Then maybe this thread should be moved to Off Topic. Reading about the WG/WL feud doesn't

really help anyone learn more about Invicta watches does it?

Eric.

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Don't let if phase you!!!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meijin

After the presentation of this last Lupah Revolution with the Sellita SW-500 in it, it was kind of

funny to hear (and see) that Sellita got several questions concerning the movement, the origins

of the movement, the relationship between Sellita and Invicta and also questioning the fact

that was presented concerning the information given out that Sellita actually built the

timepiece as a part of our ongoing relationship with them. Most of the guys are the same ones

that tried to create a "dust up" with Dubois Depraz a while back. Here's one of the questions

that was sent:

Here is the response sent from someone in senior management for their operations team:

It was really kind of funny that the question above actually came in from a "fishy" guy that

started some of the hater sites that are out there on the Internet. I am going to assume that he

is not going to post this response on his site.

Anyway, it just goes to show the strong relationships that Invicta has within the watch and

movement community the world over. In the case of Sellita, that relationship will be further

proven in the future with the Sellita SW-300 and SW-400 (but more to come on that later!

LOL!). And also companies like Dubois Depraz, Ronda and many others.

Anyway, I thought some of you might find this a little funny. Especially those that have had a

bit more interaction with those of a "fishy" nature.

Mike and all of Geekdom, we must remember when you start to scare the establishment they

will try to discredit you anyway they can. Just the fact that you have company's and people alike

scared because they look in their rear view mirror and see a giant Yellow Bear coming, should

be a reassuring fact that you are doing something correct. NO company or person is perfect. If

you keeping making watches that big boys like, you're going to make enemies and lots of them.

You just brush them off and keep on STEPPIN!!!

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Thanks for sharing this.

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Then maybe this thread should be moved to Off Topic. Reading about the WG/WL feud doesn't

really help anyone learn more about Invicta watches does it?

Eric.

It has in fact become a very real Invicta topic as of late,maybe not as technical as you would like

but a topic non the less.As you can see by the responses here,a lot of members are glad to see

Michael and Invicta putting things in place so that another Invicta factual distorted rumor does

not intentionally miss inform any member here.

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wow just saw that other forum. Can't believe the level of hate these dudes have.

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To New Heights

Eyal has and is taking INVICTA to new heights. He is a proven leader and innovator in the

science of watch design and manufacturing. As such, he is bound to have jealous detractors. We

are fortunate to have people like Michael to take them on and refute their biased and inaccurate

claims. Do your thing, Eyal, and let the market determine the truth.

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In the case of Sellita, that relationship will be further proven in the future with the Sellita SW-

300 and SW-400 (but more to come on that later! LOL!).

Thanks Mike. Please don't forget about the SW220 (I'm dying to see a nice dive watch with the

day/date), and the SW240 and SW260 (both of which would fit the vintage line very well).

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He is a blow hard thats all, a spiteful little man that rode the small bus and was picked on as a

kid.

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Ok I lied I dont feel bad for this guy he truly is a waste of Oxygen!

Dude that was funny

There has not been a tread like this in months I could not finish reading it so I quoted Rip funny

stuff

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i hope the next one with the selita movement is a excursion or venom or a Pro/master diver,as I

am leaning towards automatics,which i do currently own a the TTV PD with 7750

goldtone/silver dial.Which I LOVE..

Some people just cant be pleased.Oh,can someone pm the link to the other forum,would like to

see the hate for myself.

Dave

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Wow, I have not spent any time on this site for a few days. I watched and listened to the

presentations even though I was not going to purchase a gunmetal version but instead will wait

and consider the rosetone version. I did not question the claims regarding the relationship

between Stellita and Invicta on the assembly and sale of the first of the SW-500 movements in

an Invicta product. I did think it was a very smart business decision by both companies to help

insure the first SW-500 to the marketplace was in fact a successful roll out of the product. I am

sure Stellita in marketing this new movement wanted to make sure the whole package was as

near to perfect as possible... their reputation and market acceptance of the SW-500 could hinge

on this successful product launch. I purchased the Invicta DD product and had to return it. I can

see how Invicta would want insure a very successful product launch as well without any

potential of a repeat of the DD type of problems. Again to me it was a very smart business

decision for both companies to leverage expertise to produce the best quality possible... good for

future sales of movements to Invicta and a positive outcome that could influence other watch