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    Srila Sridhara Maharaja classes.

    Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Govardhana Sila, that was given by

    Mahaprabhu to Ragunath dasa Goswami . That is and salagrama isconsidered with respect to varnashrama amongst the brahmins. Soamongst the vaisnavites the Govardhana Sila, Salagarama is called"Gandaki Sila " naturally we are known by the relation. By thatGandaki Sila, the Sila that is found in the river Gandaki therenatural existance of the Lord Narayana in different ways, it isrevieled. And so who has got faith in that revelation, they acceptpath of worshiping Narayana in Gandaki Sila or Salagrama. And soalso Krsna expressed Himself in Bhagavatam and other places wefind that "I am in Govardhana." "Govardhana and Meself,inseparably we are connected. So anyone anyone who will worship

    Govardhana he will worship Me." And with this idea Mahaprabhu He( ) Himself, He gave it to Dasa Goswamiprabhu. Then in GaudiyaVaisnava school that worship ofGovardhana Sila is continuing. And( )gives entrance into the raga marga. Direct in the line of divinelove towards Krsna. Worship ofNarayanaSila that is Gandaki Sila orSalagarama that is viddhi marga. That is very hard and very strictand very strict methods of worshiping Narayana in viddhi marga.And in raga marga, raga marga is more liberal, it wants the heartand not formality. So for the Gaudiya Vaisnava, who wants to attaintheir position in the land of divinity, the Govardhana Sila worshipingthat is very advantageous and guiding and fruitful for them. This is in

    nutshell I say about Govardhana Sila to you. It helps us to enter intothe domain of divine love; avoiding the domain of legal devotion,lawful devotion. Rules and regulations according to the order of thesastras and if there is any flaw then we become damaged our idealprospect is damaged. Very strictly we are to observe the rules andregulations of the worship, very strict. So Mahaprabhu wanted thatwe may avoid that path. Our faith is somewhere else that is abovethis land ofviddhi upasana . So Govardhana Sila worshiping will bemore safe and more fruitful for our purpose. Because we want tohave service in the Vrndavana area the domain of love divine. That'sthe purpose and utility of having our diksa, initiation in the line of

    worshiping Govardhana Sila.Devotee: So Maharaja I am asking your blessings if I can beginworship...Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What?Devotee: I'm asking your blessings for me to worship GovardhanaSila. When I go to Vrndavana....Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What?Devotee: (repeats in Bengali)

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    Another devotee: He wants to worship Govardhana Sila.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Yes. You have got mantra from SwamiMaharaja ?Devotee: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: First and second initiation?

    Devotee: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Of course you can begin worshipingGovardhana Sila.Devotee: Thank you very much.

    Another devotee: ( )Another devotee: One of the devotees here has got two Silas. Andbefore you gave me sanyasa I offered water and Tulasi to one ofthe Silas unathorizedly and I painted the eyes of the Sila,Govardhana Sila and then I was very astonished when you namedme "Parvata" . I felt I got the blessings from these Govardhana Sila.Srila Sridhara Maharaja:Might be. Stealthily He is drawing you

    towards Him, unconsciously.Devotee: It is said that sanyasis should not worship the Silas ?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: They also may do. But sanyasa is notnecessary for worshiping Govardhana or serving Govardhana. That ismainly taken for preaching. For preaching purpose the sanyasaashrama is necessary.Devotee: Maharaja, could you perhaps give some specific or detailedinstruction about worshiping Govardhana Sila?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What?Another devotee: Some instruction of the details of worship.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Very simple, Mahaprabhu advised a that

    the minimum of little water and Tulasi . Generally whatever we take,not grandure, but in a simple way generally whatever we are to takefor food we must put, if possible daily. Then offeringpuspa, theflower and Tulasi and then some food, bhoga. And anything may bedone as we can do in the vigraha, Krsna. So also everything may bedone. But the simple and the short way of honoring Him will be He isself satisfied with the minimum we have found with the water andTulasi, is sufficent. But as you can accomadate in that affair veryeasily you can do.Devotee: Anything that I that I would institute extra, would I have tomaintain that everyday?

    Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Anything?Devotee: Anything beyond Tulasi and waterSrila Sridhara Maharaja: That also you can offer.Devotee: But would I have to maintain that everyday?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Maintain?Devotees: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: No. As suiting with the circumstance youmay do that.

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    Devotee: This is Mahatma Prabhu over here. He has arrived fromSouth Africa, where Yudhamanyu is. Yudhamanyu is working withhim.Srila Sridhara Maharaja : Comming from Africa.Devotee: South Africa.

    Srila Sridhara Maharaja: South Africa. And he is American?Devotee: Yes, no he is a Canadian. American.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Canadian.Devotee: American.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: American. He will stay here afterDevotee: For some time.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Some times means after Gaura Purnima ?No?Devotee: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Does he want to go there also, Mayapura oronly here?

    Devotee: Yudhamanyu encouraged me to stay here.Another devotee: He says Yudhamanyu Prabhu encouraged him tostay here.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Alright, as you like. As you like you may do.Aranya Maharaja has left for Calcutta?Devotees: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: He alone?Devotee: Govinda MaharajaSrila Sridhara Maharaja: So many. He will meet with Sarvabhavanaand do the necessary.Devotee: Lord Nrsimhadeva what role does He play in devtional

    service? he can help us to attain pure bhakti ?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Who is he?Devotees: Bopadeva.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Bopadeva is comes from?Devotee: He also comes from South Africa but he is an American.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What is his question?Devotee: About the function of Lord Nrsimhadeva in devotionalservice.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: His special function is to do away with theobsticles that come in the way of the devotees for their advancmenttoward the plane of divinity. Bhakit-vighna-vinasana. Vighna, the

    obsticles that may come on the way of our progress to the divineworld. Generally He takes care of that and remove those obsticlesfrom the way. So especially the devotees they have got some specialrelationship with Him. They revere that the undisireable things maybe removed and the path may be clear by His grace. He did so in thecase ofPrahlada Maharaja. And it is very conspicuous how He helpedthe devotee, in what sort of dangerous and unfavorable position. It isvery clear and so devotees they have got special liking and interest

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    in the service ofNrsimhadeva. So the hinderances may be removedand the path may be cleared by His grace.Devotee: Maharaja, you said that Mahaprabhu prefered theGovardhana Sila worship over Salagrama worship. Why do we see inthe Gauduiya temples the Gaudiya Vaisnava temples of

    Mahaprabhu that they also have Salagrama Narayana deities ontheir altars?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What is the question?Another devotee: In the Gaudiya temples we find Salagrama Silaworship but Mahaprabhu prefered Govardhana.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Just as the sacred thread is also notnecessary and the Salagrama Sila is also not necessary for thevaisnava, Gaudiya Vaisnava devotee to make progress in his path tothe goal. But it was arranged only with some purpose. It was meantfor two purposes, positive and negative. Positive side is this; that oneshould not think that Krsna worship is lower than that ofNarayana

    worship. The Goloka is on the upper portion ofVaikuntha. So if weare to go there we have to pass through Vaikuntha. This process wehave to pass through. The man otherwise he will become a sahajiya.He will give much respect to the blood brahmins, flesh brahmins. Hewill keep his position lower, and he will be afraid of approachingNarayana. And naturally they are making the assumption that Krsna,He comes from Narayana. Narayana is the original power, the sourceof all conceptions of Godhead. As the Ramanuja, Madhvacaryasampradya do. But Krsna syama bhagavan, He is above all. Topromote such faith in the devotee it is necessary, it was foundnecessary he will think that we have to pass such condition and then

    above that the domain of love.And on the other hand the brahmins, so-called blood brahmins theythink that the vaisnava they have no right to come to vaikunthathey are also worshiping the Krsna, the cowboy and their position islower to that of us. So they commit offenses agianst thesevaisnava.To save them, to save the blood brahmins from offenses to thevaisnava . And to make the vaisnava also, the disciples ofvaisnava,the servants ofvaisnava be conscious that their land is crossingBrahmaloka and Vaikuntha , so he must be very careful in hiscampaign, valuable campaign. For these two purpose these havebeen introduced, the sacred thread as well as the worship of

    Narayana. Otherwise this is not necessary, neither the sacred threadnor the worship ofNarayana.But the intermediate states were supplied. Finding that there ismisconception about the vaisnava in the social stair, about the socialstatus of them and others. The vaisnava is lower than brahmin theyhave no right to worship Salagrama. In this way their value isminimized and their position comes in lower conception. In order toremove that misconception in the servant of the vaisnava and the

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    so-called society of the brahmins.This method has been introducedby our Guru Maharaja especially, Bhakti Siddhanta SarasvatiThakura. And we are also following his footsteps.Am I clear?Devotee: Yes.

    Devotee: We've also heard that one becomes free from offenses byworshiping the Salagrama Sila.Srila Sridhara Maharaja:What?Another devotee: He said that we've heard that one becomes freefrom offenses by worshiping the Salagrama Sila.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Not that, free from offenses. Necessarily wewill have to be more attentive to our flaws. More attentive thatSalagrama is not so forgiving character. Is very strict my masterwhom I am going to serve is very strict.That will excite me andencourage me to be very accurate in my service. In that way it maybe. But without love the only the tendancy that is excited or created

    by any fear or any other object that may be of less value. Love ismost value, the inner love. Inate love that is the most valuable thing.Without that so strict following in the observance and ettiqute divnethat will more or less tasteless, usless. (sanskritverses) The bhavais the most important thing, the inner feeling sentiment, ruci. That isvaluable than the formalities passion. An uneducated man may sayvisnav aya namah, gramatically incorrect. And the scholarly man willsay visnave namah, it is gramatically correct. But the Lord willaccept the meaning, the purpose of the heart not so much the outerorinamental figure or aspect.

    The end of side "A"

    Devotee: Is it rasabasa to worship Gaura-Nitai deities andGovardhana Sila together?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What?Another devotee: Is it rasabasa to worship Govardhana Sila andGaur-Nitai together?Srila Sridhara Maharaj: No. Gaura-Nitai and Govardhana Sila notrasabasa. But ifRadharani's representation is there, then it willcome to clash in rasa. But in seperation, screen may be givenbetween Nitai. Nitai, Gaura-Nitai and ifGovardhana Sila and there isRadharani then screen should be given between the two.Devotee: Yesterday you said that after Radhakunda, Govardhana is

    the most important place oflila. We don't know much about Krsnalila in Govardhana.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: That is generally told to be the favoriteplace of the Candravali section. Sakhya rasa lila is also in full swingin Govardhana . And there the Candravali section (sanskrit) thatsection, we are told, they have place of lila nearby. Radha kundaalso near to Govardhana but (sanskrit) anyhow selected few thenthat we find in Vrndavan. In Vrndavan the general madhurya rasa

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    and Govardhana selected. And Radha kunda is only the selectedgroup ofRadharani, not any other no entrance of any other. This hasbeen mentioned by Rupa Goswami. But I saw in our Guru Maharaja'sone article, Radha kunda tree and also water. There is also somedifferentiation. And the Radha kunda water that is the highest

    postion. To promote the most intensense oflila in the water. Theseare very high talks.This sideThis I think intense sun. Should we arrange that side?Devotee: As you wish.Devotee: Maharaja, you have said that Madhavacarya has someopinions about the gopis that we do not accept. My question is howist that Madhavacarya, such a great acarya can make suchmistakes?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: It is the supreme and independant will of theLord. There is mohan in Brahma, have you heard of that?Devotee:Yes, Brahma vimohan lila.

    Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Brahma vimohan lila. Can you accomodatethat?Devotee: ahhhhhSrila Sridhara Maharaja:What is the ( ) ofMadhavacarya also?Bramha sampradaya, and the Sri sampradaya, Laxmi devi . It issuch, you can know I cannot know, His will. Sweet play, sweet will.Brahma mohan .Mahaprabhu says "Sanatana, something is passing through Me. I canfeel that something higher, knowledge, a flow is going through Me toyou, to bless you but I can't taste that." Such is also possible. Hissupreme will is such characteristic. Even ...( )He can send some

    information to another gentleman through you. You won't beable...do conceive this ?Devotee: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: So anything is possible. ( )It is possiblefor Him only, this is the idea of the fullest thing, it is His grace. It isHis sweet will, it is His own and not the property of many. He isautocrat He is the highest and whom ever He selects for giving Hisown thing he will get it. No question can be raised, no taxationwithout representation that sort of slogan has got no meaning here.But you can know, as Bhaktivinoda Thakura told on our behalf(sanskrit verse) My position is that of a servant ofHari and I am

    devoid ofHari. What is the wrong? What am I? I am a slave to Krsna,to the Lord. And I am devoid of my Lord, and my master what acrime it is. You can will you can depend you can move, but all right isreserved. And when you will awaken to that state you will get that.But still He is above law, we have to consider the surrender.Otherwise the position of surrender is no where.Surrender, if we analize the very basis of surrender then in whatstage surrender has got it's existance? Only where there is no right.

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    Wherever any right is going to be established, surrender is notnecssary. We must find out our innate right, it is not so. To such anextent it may go on, but in Krsna lila this has got no place. EvenLaxmi devi, she can't enter, what to speak of others. She cannotsecure any admission card there.Acintya bhedabheda . So

    Mahaprabhu has put this the acintya, it is not within any law or anyones fist. All right is out. His sweet will but He is absolute good, thatis our solace. As a matter of right we can't enter. Even Laxmi devicannot, even Brahma does not know,even Siva outside. Still if wetake the way chalked out by Mahaprabhu (sanskritverse) we canenter there. We can have place there. It is so dear and so rare and sovaluable and desireable (sanskrit) The magnanimity, we are to lookfor the magnanimity ofMahaprabhu. Siva-virinci vancita which isaspired by Siva and Brahma . A drop, for a drop they are praying.But that He took here in a flood. Inundated with that nectar, a dropof which is vary rarely to be had and thought of here. We are to

    approach with such attitude and hankering and expectations. It is sogreat it so magnanomous. What is this?(sanskrit verses) These two slokas, one from the mouth ofKrsnaHimself and the next from the mouth ofUddhava, straightly can takeus to that highest place. Eliminating so many things outside,fromBrahmaloka, from catusana from Brahma. Begining fromBrahma the grand ( ) is passing up to Uddhava in Dvaraka andthen from Uddhava coming directly to Vrndavana to show theposition how high, how far eliminating many things on both sides ofvarious higher prospects. All left, and we are marching and we haveto march on.

    And the way that of surrender, of devotion, loving devotion not onlyformal devotion. (sanskrit verse) These subtle things we are to putin our faith. Only through the faith of the finer order can we relate tothat quarter. The highest conception is in the heart ofKrsna. Theheart ofKrsna we are to enter into not any other place, the heart ofKrsna. It is there. This is the way chalked out but on the higher sidethere are many things also. Lila, madhurya that can stand alone, thesakhya lila, the vatsalya lila they have got their high necessity, theirhigh value to support them. Madhuya that is the main thing, but stillthat is dependant on the paraphernailia. There must be vatsalya lila,there must be sakhya lila the different groups and the servitor

    group. All santa group. Even Radharani when She missed Krsna inKuruksetra, Her mind is running to Vrndavana. Running toVrndavana the Krsna is there, Meself is also here. We two. But Hermind is running toward Vrndavana. What for? Vrndavana has gotit's valuable part to play in this lila, Vrndavana. And what isVrndavana? Vrndavana is the signs ofYamuna the water, thejungle, the birds, the peacocks, the stag deer, the cows, thecowboys, the Govardhana, the cave ofGovardhana, then the

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    motherly relatives. Everything there and that is well designed fortheir purpose most suitable. So for the stage, She is hankering forthe stage where to get His company. Vrndavana and the wholesakhya group, the vatsalya group the santa group, they have gottheir own peculiar valuation that cannot be eliminated. Radha-

    Govinda cannot be taken out from Vrndavana, as Mahaprabhufrom Navadvipa and so many devotees all have got their ownnecessity and respective position in the harmony. The whole thing isa system, one part cannot be snatched away from the other parts.Then it is not living, it is dead, it is artificial. It is useless, it cannot beimagined even as such. All organic whole.(sanskritverse) My mind is running straight toward Vrndavana I havegot the main object of My union there. But it is useless, uselessnothing favorable paraphernailia. So Radharani's pain of seperationis rising to it's highest point here. Getting the object of Her unionvery near, very close after long seperation. But still She cannot get

    the real advantage ofVrndavana. So Bhaktivinoda Thakura told, ourGuru Maharaja's words were most revolutionary. I am a beginer, Ihave entered newly two years or so perhaps joining in CalcuttaGaudiya Math in the hired house. I was in charge ofKuruksetraMath. I came during Calcutta ceremony and agian I shall have to goback to Kuruksetra. Prabhupada had in mind that he will open anexhibition there inKuruksetra showing with dolls that Krsna withfriends comming from Dvaraka and the gopis from Vrndavana havecome. It is mentioned in Srimad Bhagavatam during eclipseceremony to take bath in that Brahma kunda( ).They wanted toshow that by doll. Then he ordered a letter should be printed in this

    way and that would be circulated. Twenty thousand may becirculated in the area. And in connection with that he said: you allknow that the bogus people, something like that. Bhur, bhurinBengali , bhur means hollow. And when a tree is hollow within it ishollow then it is said it is bhurin Bengali. In Vrndavana ( Bengali )he told thisthat only the hollow people, men of shallow thinking theylike Vrndavana. I was very much perplexed. What is this? Hereto Iam told Vrndavana is the highest place, (sanskrit) one who has notattained mastership over his senses he won't enter Vrndavana.(sanskrit) Only the mukta the liberated souls can enter Vrndavanaand may have opportunity of discussing Krsna lila. Only the

    liberated, it is only for the liberated. Those who are not liberatedfrom their senses they may take to Navadvipa .But the liberatedsouls may have entrance for their benefit in Vrndavana. And nowGuru Maharaja says that those shallow thinkers they will enjoy ,they will welcomeVrndavana . But the man of real bhajana, realdivine aspiration, he must take to Kuruksetra. I fell as if from the topof the tree. So long so long we are listening highest things. Now thatVrndavana is the highest position that is fallen. What is that? I am

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    very acute hearer listening, very much acute to catch the whatshould be the meaning. The next thought he gave BhaktivinodaThakura after his tour through different place of pilgrimage he whenhe came back he told "The last days of my life I shall pass inKuruksetra." " I shall constuct a cottage near Brahma Kunda and I

    shall pass the rest of my life there. That is the real place ofbhajana."Why? These servitors, just as a general merchant they will seek amarket in wartime. Why? There they expend money like water,without caring. No value of any money. During that dangerousposition they can spare money like water. So the merchants say weshall be able to earn something if war period comes. So when theservice is more valuable according to the intensity of it's nescessity.So when Krsna and Radharani there but union is impossible soseperation, the degree of the sentiment of seperation is risen to thehighest zeinth. And at that time service is very valuable to the

    asraya, to Radharani. When it is necessary to the highest degreeaccording to the necessity. She is in the highest necessity becauseShe has got Her position in such place that She can't control. Nearernearer. If the football is just from the goal and it comes away it willbe a great loss. Comming to the goal and agian come back. The mostvaluable position, near the goal. To serve Krsna is there after longseperation the spirit, the hankering for union must come to thegreatest point. But it is impossible, the circumstances not allowingso. So She is needs the highest service from Her circle, the sakis. Hergroup must come with their serving spirit in that case there is themost need of help from outside to maintain Her position. And

    Bhaktivionda Thakura says there a particle, a drop of help will fetchthe greatest amount ofprema. So I want vipralambha, (sanskrit) andvipralambha.Things are very near can't meet. So service in thatplace can fetch the mostprema for the servitors. So I shall constructa hut there on the banks ofBrahma kunda and I shall think of thatposition of the divine couple. And if I can raise myself to thatstandard then it may not come back to this mundane plane any time.No possibility. If so high I can put up my serving prospect. So(sanskritverse) so wherever She isVrdavana is necessary for Them.And Vrndavana means the whole paraphernialia, favorableparaphernialia to that extent Vrndavana is unique, unique. (sanskrit)

    that is the main thing. In this way.And the gopis told (sanskritverse) The gopis in general theypresented a petition to Krsna. Publicly Krsna is a king and theleader of so many kings in India. And these they have come fromunknown quarter, living in jungle in the society of the milkmen. Whatposition they have got there? Externally no position. And Krsnaholding the highest position in the political and royal society of thethen India. So He is the figure like the eyeball in every eye. Krsna's

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    position. And they are in helpless world and negelected conditionwhat value they have got? But when Krsna Himself came, first toNanda ,Yasoda's camp to give Mother parental respect to them.With in the midst of their disapointment for the time being They feltMy boy has come at last to see us. At least for the time being They

    got Their life back agian in a dead body. Anyhow after somecourtesy shown to them Krsna in the meantime made somearrangement to meet with the gopis. Gopis privately and alsosuddenly appeared in their camp.Rupa Goswami has collected many slokas poems from differentdevotees in Padyavali. Mentioned devotees, there are also poemsabout Krsna lila and Rupa Goswami has collected them andpublished them in Padyavali. Stavyavali ofDasa Goswami andPadyavali ofRupa Goswami.There is a sloka it should not be spokenat large, still I do. In Bhagavatam of course it is like this. Krsna cameand they, in general they gave something as a petition. (sanskrit)the

    book of the gopi, they told (sanskritverse) Oh You have lotus navelpadaarvinda , Your holy feet, lotus feet (sanskrit) we are told thatthe great masteryogisa they try to meditate Your lotus feet.(sanskrit) and with their unfathomed knowledge and mentalresources they come to think Your lotus feet . They try, their endevoris for to have You in inmagination Your lotus feet we are told. Andwe believe also. (sanskritverse) Thatyogis means lord those thathave nothing to do with this mundane with the play. But higherrealization in the conscious world ,spiritual world. They have said tobe centered their highest attention toward Your lotus feet. And thosethat are busy in their elevating their life in this mundane world the

    material exploitation elevation of their life. ( sanskrit)These also arebusy to worship Your lotus feet to get out of this entanglement ofaction and reaction in the mundane world. They use it. The karmis,the elevationists and the salvationists. The center of the interestboth of these section is Yourpadarvinda, Your lotus feet.Elevationist or salvationist. And what are we? We live in thenegelected part of the lower society, in the jungle. And the cows isour wealth. We are some animal traders. Live in jungle and we tradein cow buisness and we sell the curd and and the milk and thesethings on the outskirts of society. (sanskrit verse)We are neitherkarmi, the sceintific exploiter nor the higher exploiters in the world of

    consciousness or the researcher. (sanskrit) We only know family life.Family life ( sanskrit) we have no other qualification but only familylife of the lower section of society. That capacity we have got.(sanskritverse)but our audacity that we pray that You, very great,You kindly condescend to extend Your lotus feet to our negligentpart of our society and our negligent hearts any time we'll think usblessed. (sanskritverse) In our mind that we can maintain in ourmind the memory of Your holy feet we are busy in our family life .

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    We do not know sastric life or salvationistyoga,jnana, vedanta,orveda, nothing of the kind. Neither scripture nor moral standard wehave got. Relative position we hold. And there in our family possiblywe can think in our mind we can remember about Your holy lotusfeet. You please grant this to us. We can't expect anything more

    from You. That is their petition.And Krsna also outwardly told; yes I know. (sanskritverse) Thepeople they want my devotion for their life in eternity. (sanskrit) Tocross the limit of mortality and to have eternal they worship, theycome to Me. They take to My service(sanskritverse) But fortunatelyfor you, you have got some affection towards Me. Anyhow it hasoccured that you have some affection towards Me. So that will takeyou to the ultimate. That is the external meaning. The formalmeaning, the superficial meaning of both the camp. But our acaryathey have squeezed out another meaning from those form affairs.They say they are conscious of the real private relationship between

    the two. So they have drawn out of that another meaning based onsentimentalism. The clash of sentimentalism between both theparties. Beloved, lover and beloved. And it is in this way. When thegopis in general put a prayer the meaning is this: Oh we rememberthat You sent Uddhava to console us one day. To console usoutwardly Uddhava by reciting many sastric sloka. Sastricrepresentation that it is nothing the whole world is mortal, we shallall have to go away from this. So the affection has got no such anyvalue. Attachement that must be cut off to anything You must try toliberate us from any attraction for the enviornment and make usfree. All these apparently sweet things You wanted to distribute to us

    through Uddhava now Yourself also are showing us the same path.That You are so and so You are great and everyone should try for itsown highest interest and to think Me and take benefit for their own.In this way. In Caitanya Caritamrta you will find the meaningexplained in this way.

    The end of the tapeSrila Sridhara Maharaja: ...Notyogis that we will be satisfied withabstract thinking about You. Are weyogis that we shall be satisfiedwith abstract thinking? Thinking or imagination concoction all thesethings. We are not a party to that. Neither are we karmi that we areincurring so much debt from the nature and to get relief of that we

    shall come to Your door Oh, please relieve me my God from myprevious bad activities, please relieve me. We do not belong to anyof these two sections. But what are we? (sanskritverse) We want tolive with You as a family man. Not that abstract thinking. Not to useYou to clear off this nullify, the fault of the nullified activity. To useYou for any other purpose, we want to have a direct family life withYou. Don't You know that? And You come to by Uddhava and now byYourself. Are You not ashamed of that? This is their inner meaning,

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    inner meaning. (sanskritverse) So mildly they are putting. That wewill not be satisfied by anything else You know it personally, Youknow it better. But if You kindly come You as we had You wholesalein our midst, our prayers is that. We are not satisfied with anythingless than that. Anything less cannot satisfy. We are talking, not

    abstract thinking. Nor do we want to utilize You to relieve us fromthe entanglement of this material nature. We have got no conceptionof our body. No body conception we have got. (sanskritverse) Wehave no body consciousness so we do not want relief from thereactionary suffering of this material life. We don't care for that. Weare unconscious of that. So what is our real need? We want to serveYou direct in our loving self, try to do that. Then Krsna 's answer thathas got also inner aspect. (sanskritverse) All the people they wantMe through devotion to attain to help them for the aqusistion of thehighest position in the eternal world. The world of eternal benefit.Fortunately they get such connection with Me the consider

    themselves fortunate. But on the other hand I consider Myself to befortunate because I got your affection. The whole world wants toshow their affection to Me. And that I, Myself consider that I amfortunate because I have got your affection toward Me. (sanskritverse) Fortunately for Me that I have come in touch with suchvaluable affection what I found in your heart. I consider Myself to befortunate. The inner meaning the gopis read like that. (sanskritverse) When Radharani could look into the meaning ofKrsna'sanswer, reply, She became satisfied. Wherever He may be in thephysical sense, but at heart He is mine alone. So He could composeHis troubles within, but He came back to Vrndavana. But very soon

    He cannot but come to join our party agian.And what I was going to say little after, the sloka the meaning of thesloka collected by Rupa Goswami. When Krsna met inKuruksetra(sanskritverse) When Krsna came to the camp He foundsuddenly Radharani.Justthen He stooped down as if to touch Herfeet. (sanskrit) And Radharani is shrinking away She says "What Youdo?" (sanskrit) I found You on My feet and comming to catch Myfeet, what's the matter? She shudders. (sanskrit) You have no fault.You are as pure as anything. You have not done anything wrong.(sanskrit) You are My master, You are My Lord. You are at liberty todo anything and everything. I am Your servitor we are Your servitors,

    our position under You. We shall try our every nerve to satisfy You.By nature our position is such. And You are master, You are our Lord.You can do anything and everything. Why do You come and stoop tolow as to touch My feet? I can't tollerate. (sanskrit verse) For a littletime You have got engagement in some other place, but what harmthere? No Harm, (sanskrit) no crime for You for that. (sanskritverse)I am criminal the crime I have commited, from the other hand.(sanskritverse) Why, how? (sanskrit) I still dragged on My body and

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    life. I could not die for Your separation. So great and holy affection Icame in touch of and I could not die. I am showing My face to thepublic. I am not worth Your divine affection. I could not die for theseparation of Myself and I had to show My face (sanskrit) So I amcriminal of the first court. (sanskritverse) I maintained My life 'til

    now. (sanskrit) It is in the scripture it has been arranged that thewife should be the wholesale subserviant to the master, to thehusband. And not that husband shoud be very submissive to thewife. It is not the scriptural standard. So You are alright. The wholeburden of breaking the law of love is on My head. In this way Shetold as Mahaprabhu also told (sanskritverse)Sri Caitanyadeva also echoing the same thing. (sanskrit) Not a bitof divine love in Me for Krsna. Even little a bit of scent ofKrsna loveis in Me (sanskrit) Then why You are sheding tears profusely,uninteruptedly? Always day night You are sheding tears for Krsna,Krsna. "Oh you don't know it. To show to the public to canvass that I

    have got Krsna prema, I have got divine love for Krsna only to showto the people and thereby get some good name of a Krsna dasa . Todeceive the people I have got all hypocrasy in Me. Why? Why do yousay so (sanskritverse) Positive proof is there. That is still I live, Icould not die. If I had real love, by separtion I must have died. That ispositive proof that I have not a scent ofKrsna prema in Me. Krsnaprema is so high, so attractive, once comming in contact with thatnone can maintain his life without connection with that thing. It isimpossible, it is so high, so enchanting, so attracting, so beautifuland so heart swallowing it is impossible. It is such it is such higherdegree, that love is (sanskrit verse)That divine love for Krsna is not

    to be traced in this mundane world. It is impossible that human cancome in connection with that sort of divine higher love. (sanskritverse) If anyone by chance comes in connection with that, then noseparation is possible, he can't forget that. He cannot live separatelywithout that connection. (sanskritverse) If by chance anyparticipation any separation, he will die instantly. It is so attractiveso high he will have to die instantly without that sort of vital vitaldevotion, higher noble life. It is such,so great. So noble, so beautifulso magnanomus that is this. We are out to search for that thing inthe world.For that thing in the world Mahaprabhu came to inform us that there

    is such vital thing, vital of the vital. Without that given us chance tocome in contact with that it is impossible him to go on living withoutthat connection with that. There is such prospect for us all andMahaprabhu came to distribute that to the world for us. A littleconnection, I am told that a section in South Africa, they commitedsuicide in a creative wayDevotee: South America.

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    Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What? South America? Somewhere SouthAfrica somewhere. Because they are faithful process of life is goingto be destroyed by the present civilization they could not tolorate.Let us take the poison and take leave from this world. That we canlive safely in the world of our faith. Faith divine, no charm for

    anything in this mundane world, let us go with peace. As members ofthe peaceful world and let us enjoy that peace which is indepedantof the material accusition. So there is no chance we may hesitate towithdraw us from this world. But we shall say that this life is valuablerelatively why because higher aspiration we can aquire. We can havethe chance of aquisition from this plane. The seeds from this humanlife is so valuable that we can take the path of the highest divineconception (sanskritverse) Highly valuable but rarely found, thishuman body. Because there are so many forms of life (sanskrit) Thewater animals, the vegetable kingdom, the animals, the birds, somany ghosts and others also. But only in this human position that

    one reaches the key for the solution of whole path all the forms oflife we have to travel in. If we can utilize this valuable life, the timeof this valuable life in a valuable way, then we can aquire such asthing that we can avoid the whole chain of the life of thistroublesome world. We can get rid of all sorts of troubles of phyiscallife or mental life the key is here.In the lower stages (sanskrit)Jiva Goswami says vehicle is notsufficent understanding is awakened in the lower life. And in thehigher life that gandharva (sanskritverse) previously aquiredenjoying energy is sufficently accumulated there on all sides. So it isdifficult for them. So chief enjoying elements are surrounding it

    becomes difficult for them to get out there of the charm of those andto induce one to begin the prospect of a fresh life. So this is humanlife is the highest form of advantageous position to go out of thisentanglement and to reach the highest object of our life divine.Any question?Devotee:Why did Caitanya Mahaprabhu choose to give the highestconception of love ofKrsna to the lowest class of people, the peopleofKali yuga ?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What's the point?Another devotee: Why did Mahaprabhu like to give the highest loveof Godhead to the lowest persons of this Kali yuga ?

    Srila Sridhara Maharaja: That is the very nature ofSri Caitanyaavatara. Why the gopis they came to form the neglected socialposition, the gopa ? It looks it is the most befiting. The highestconception of magnanimaty means what? The highest point theconception of the highest magnanimaty how should be nature ofthat? To help the most needy. And because He comes from the highposition He cannot give ordinary things. The valuable things He must

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    give and His attention must be drawn to the most needy. Is itunnatural? What do you think?Devotee: No, that's correct.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: The highest magnanimaty must take noticeof the lowest needy. And if He wants to help them by His own coin

    and that is His coin. Do you follow?Devotee: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: He cannot distribute them only the grass orthe stone chips. What He thinks to be real wealth, He must extendthat to the lowest, the poorest people. There is oppulence of jewelsand gems and He will go to search some stone chips for thedistribution to the lowest level. What should be the natural thing?So we all try to fall at the feet of that great messiah, Sri Gaurangadeva . The devotees say we can't keep up our life to conceive thatthere may be a place where Gauranga won't be. We shudder tothink that without such a magnanimous friend how one can live his

    life? This is impossible. (sanskritverse) The world is not worth forliving.Devotee: Maharaja, Swami Maharaja writes that we can become freefrom offenses to the holy name if we chant the names of LordCaitanya and the Panca Tattva .....Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What does she say?Another devotee: Swami Maharaja, Srila Prabhupada he writes if wechant Panca Tattva mantra then we can get free from thenamaparadhas why is that, how is that?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: They are so magnanimous they are meantPanca Tattva is meant to raise up the souls from their fallen

    condition. Only the deserving person can have entrance inVrnadavana lila. But Krsna has come down to cure the offendersfrom their offenses and then allow them entrance into Vrndavana. SoPanca Tattva by taking their name and remembering their lila in ourlowest position we can purified and we are prepared forparticipation in Vrndavana lila. And in Vrndavana lila there is thetwofold lila going on. In Vrndavana Goloka, (sanskrit) within theirown circle they are enjoying the tastings of divine love. And there isanother quarter where Sri Radha-Govinda (sanskrit) He Himself inthe mood ofRadharani is tasting His own qualification, His ownsweetness with His paraphernailia. That is also there we are told.

    And we are to realize gradually by the recomended processes.Who is she?Devotee: Her name is Bhakta Priya.Srila Sridhara Maharaja:Bhakta Priya. Comes from?Devotee: She comes from San Jose with us, she is helping us there.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Comes with her husband or alone?Devotee: She's a widow.

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    Srila Sridhara Maharaja: She's a widow. And she is disciple ofSwamiMaharaja ?Devotee: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Twofold initiations? She got?Devotee: Yes.

    Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Alright. And have come with whom?Devotee: Myself and Brahma and Bhakta Jeff. We all came together.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Alright. The Japanese lady she has gone toVrndavan or Japan?Devotee: Japan.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: And this ( )lady who came from Sedan?Devotee: She is here.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: I can't see so I have to inquire one thing somany times. I beg to be excused for that. It is difficulty forinquirering for identification of one, uncouteous,but can't help. Soyou be all gracious to me and excuse such defect and fault in me.

    Devotee: What you are seeing, we are all aspiring for that.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Of course by God's grace as I told before,Mahaprabhu told Sanatana, Krsna is sending grace to you throughMe. It cannot be the aquired property of any one of us, it is free. Andwe mabye utilized like a channel. He is having His own lila, His lila,His pastimes in different way in a movement. As much as we canmake ourselves empty it is easy for us to see His lila. Withdraw onceour ego. Isvara sarva bhutanam/hrdesu arjuna tistathi/brahmayansarva bhtani/yantra rudhani mayaya. He is acting though us. Theinner plane everywhere is the plane of His own lila. And oursexsitance on the gross serface, gross coating.

    Tatastha, swarupa sakti, then tatastha sakti then this materialcoating. But the inner most substance all filled up with the flow of His( ) sweet, sweetest most generous way, Krsna and Gauranga.Devotee: Maharaja, what is the meaning of the higher energy of theLord the internal energy, the most intimate energy of the Lord?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: That is go to the similar direction. We mayapply some approximate word for the same. Sometimes we say"higher" ( ) in this way we try to give some direction by usingsuch words according to our mentality and capacity of the direction.But what we direct, what we want to mean by those words, thatdepends on the circumstances when we are dealing with a particular

    thing. We are tatastha position and higher, inner that means towardsthe, higher means inner, deeper sometimes higher, sometimesdeeper sometimes inner. In this way only a directive meaning.(sanskrit) the Vedas also are directing toward this side. Unknownand unknowable. Unestimable from this plane of life. Only ( ) somany other expressions to be used by us.Adhoksaja, aprakrta,supernatural , transcendental. Still we are trying to deal in our ownway.

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    Devotee: Maharaja, Krsna or Mahaprabhu descends to this world,what is happening in Goloka Vrndavana ?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: There also.Devotee: So there's two?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Yes. He can extend Himself. He is such. The

    characteristic of the infinite is such. Infinite minus infinite is infinite.Infinite plus infinite is infinite. Infinite into infinite that is also infinite.Infinite divided by infinite is infinite. If we take the case of zero. Zeroplus zero is zero. Zero minus zero is zero. Zero into zero is zero. Zerodivided by zero is zero. Just the opposite. om purnam adah purnamidam/ purnat purnam udacyate/purnasya purnam adaya/ purnamevavasisyate. In Upanisadwe find the basis of such exsitance. It ispossible. But we can't conceive it is there, it is such. The nature ofinfinite is such.What's the time?Devotee: Five to ten.

    Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Five to ten.Devotee: Almost ten.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: So we should show some respect to HariCarana's request.

    The end of this day